Deadly brussels attacks. How Authorities Say he helped the terrorists. From abc news, its this week. Here now, chief White House Correspondent jonathan karl. Good morning. And thank you for joining us here on this Easter Sunday. Pope francis has just celebrated easter mass with millions of christians in st. Peters square. Its been a week marked by historic firsts. New political lows. And yet another terrorist attack in europe. Isis has claimed responsibility for the attack that killed 28 civilians and injured 340. This morning, the manhunt for the terrorists behind the attack continues. As europe braces for the possibility of carnage. Well have more on that later in the program. On the threat to europe and the u. S. And this week, air force one touched down in cuba for the very first time. As president obama became the first president to visit the and here at home, it was another wild week in the race for the white house. The Republican Campaign devolving into insults an innuendo between donald trump and ted cruz. Donald trump will join us in a moment. But first, a look at the week the race got nastier and even more personal. On this easter weekend, good friday was anything but. Ted cruz lashed out at donald trump, blaming him for a National Enquirer story citing rumors he had engaged in multiple marital infidelities. Let me be clear, this National Enquirer story is garbage. It is a tabloid smear. And it is a smear that has come from donald trump and his henchmen. Reporter trump denied he had anything to do with the story. Saying cruzs problem with the National Enquirer is his and his alone. While they were right about o. J. Simpson, john edwards, and many others, i certainly hope they cruz. The tabloid brawl is just the latest in a nasty string of personal attacks between trump and cruz. Even dragging their wives into the fray. Donald, youre a sniveling coward and leave heidi the hell alone. Reporter it all started earlier this week when trump blamed cruz for a superpac ad that featured a nude photo of his wife, melania, from her modeling days. Trump tweeted, be careful lyin ted, or ill spill the beans on your wife. Trump later retweeted a photo of their wives side by side. He captioned this photo, the images are worth 1,000 words. Questions about trumps attitudes toward women have dogged him throughout the campaign. This antitrump ad features women repeating things donald trump has actually said. Bimbo. Dog. Fat pig. Reporter and in the latest abc News Washington post poll, a whopping 74 of women say they have an unfavorable view of trump. Battle. With Hillary Clinton. The fight comes at a crucial moment in the primary campaign. With trump still battling cruz to lock up enough delegates to win the gop nomination before the convention. Cruz has repeatedly said hed support trump if trump wins the nomination. But hes not saying that anymore. I dont make a habit out of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my family. And donald trump joins me on the phone. Mr. Trump, thank you, and happy easter. Okay, you, too. So, i want to get to some policy issues. First, i have to ask you about the nasty fight between you and ted cruz. Do you categorically guarantee that nobody on your campaign, nobody tied to your campaign had anything to do with this National Enquirer story . Totally. I had nothing to do with it. The campaign had nothing to do with it. Hes got a problem with the National Enquirer. National enquirer. I didnt even know about the story. I just got it last night. Somebody sent it to me to read so i could at least know what it said. I had nothing to do whatsoever with the National Enquirer. Neither did the campaign. And i will tell you, for him to say i had to do with it, try and put the shoe on the other foot is disgraceful. And by the way, hes the one that started it. From what i hear, he and his campaign went out and bought the cover shoot. Melania did a cover shoot for gq. A very strong modeling picture. No big deal. But it was a cover shoot for gq a big magazine. And it was, you know, fine and, from what i hear, somebody bought the rights to it. He was the one, or his campaign bought the rights and gave it to the superpac. That superpac is friendly to ted cruz. He started it. I didnt. Be off limits . Do you condemn this story . I dont care. I mean, really, i dont care. The National Enquirer did a story. It was their story. It wasnt my story. It was about ted cruz. I have no idea whether it was right or not. They have a good record of being right. But i have absolutely no idea. Frankly, i said, i hope its not right. Lets go back to the thing that started this all off. We mentioned it. In fairness, this started with the superpac ad featuring melania. But in response hes very close to the superpac. Theres no way that the superpac did that without his knowledge. I call him lyin ted. I call him that because nobody that ive known, ive known a lot tougher people over the years in business, i have never known anybody that lied like ted cruz. Let me ask you. In response, you said in that tweet that you would spill the beans on heidi cruz. What did you mean by that . Well, there are things about heidi that i dont want to talk about. But im not going to talk about them. You could look. But, i wouldnt talk about them. What really set cruz off was when you retweeted that photo. That unflattering photo of heidi cruz. Well, it was a retweet somebody sent to me. It was a retweet. Look, what he did was far worse. He takes out a thing and sends it to utah, the voters of utah. It was a cover shoot. It was, by a big magazine. She was a very, very successful model. Big model. Did lots of shoots and lots of cover shoots. And to send that like it was some kind of a bad picture was disgusting to me. They make me like the bad guy here. Im just responding to what he does. I respond. I counterpunch. Im responding to what he does. But always, the press likes to make me the bad guy. Hes the one that started it. He knew about the picture. He may have even bought the rights to the picture, meaning his campaign. Hes close to the superpac. I didnt start this. He did. A lot of people watch this and see the way you have responded. You call yourself a counterpuncher. It started with the superpac. They wonder would you act this way as president of the United States . Would you be doing latenight twitter wars with World Leaders who insulted you . Its a new way of communicating. Its very effective. Ive been very effective with it. Facebook, i have like 15 or 16 its a great way of communicating. Now, other people dont like it because they have 15 followers. I have between that and instagram, i have probably close to 16 million followers. And frankly, its a great way of communicating as far as im concerned. But im not going to be doing it very much as president. I will say, you know, i will i will act in the best interests of our country. I will act to protect our country. Whether that is counterpunching or not. Not like it is now, where we have nobody at the helm. Where we have nobody protecting the interests of our country. Were being ripped off by every single nation in the world and we cant even beat isis at war. Lets turn to the attacks in brussels. The state department has issued an extraordinary warning for all of europe. Do you think europe is a safe place for americans to travel . Well, im the only one that predicted it. I said brussels is a hellhole. The New York Times mocked me. And said, a couple of months ago. The New York Times did a story about how dare donald trump say brussels is a hellhole. How dare they. Then all of a sudden, it comes out that the attack took place in brussels. I understand what is going on around the world. Far better than these politicians do. I have friends all over the world. Ill tell you, i was i was really hit hard by the New York Times in an article. How dare i attack brussels. Now this happened. And you know . The biggest thing on the internet, one of the big things was 100 right about brussels. Right now, do you think brussels, that europe is a safe place for americans . More to the point, would you feel comfortable traveling to europe right now with your family . I dont think america is a safe place for americans right now. I dont think europe is a safe place, no, i dont. I think there are a lot of problems in europe that are very, very severe. Weak. You know, the lots of the free world has become weak. When you look at brussels, when you look at the way theyve handled things from Law Enforcement standpoints. When you look at paris. When you look at so many other places, no, its not. But neither is the United States a safe place because were allowing thousands of people to come in here. Nobody knows where theyre from. Nobody knows who they are. Theyre coming in by the thousands. Let me tell you something, were going to have problems. Just as big or bigger than theyve got. Now, you gave a series of interviews. New york times. Policy. In both of those, you suggested that nato needs to do more to carry its weight. I want to ask you about article 5, on collective defense. Which of course goes back to the very beginning of the cold war. Is that simply out of date and maybe needs to be done away with . I think nato is obsolete. Nato was done at a time you had the soviet union. Much larger than russia is today. Im not saying russia is not a threat. But we have other threats. We have the threat of terrorism. Nato doesnt discuss terrorism. Nato doesnt have the right countries in it for terrorism. What im saying, we pay a totally disproportionate share to nato. If you look at the ukraine, were the only ones fighting. I never hear other countries mentioned. Out, do this, do that. Ukraine is very far away from us. How come the countries near the ukraine, surrounding the ukraine, how come theyre not opening up, and theyre not at least protesting . I never hear anything except from anybody but the United States. Nato is obsolete. Nato is obsolete and extremely expensive to the United States. Disproportionately so. We should readjust nato. It has to be readjusted to take care of terrorism or we have to set up a new coalition, a new group of countries to handle terrorism. Because terrorism is out of control. But ukraine is not a member of nato. There are no u. S. Troops involved in ukraine . Im not saying theyre a member. What im saying about ukraine were talking when russia is going into ukraine, we immediately get nato. I dont hear from the other i dont hear having to do with ukraine. I dont hear from the other countries in nato. I dont hear from germany. I only hear from the United States. Weve gotta do this. Were constantly telling russia what to do. And its all fine if everybody partakes. I dont see other people partaking. Then you say, why are we paying, jon, why are we paying disproportionately the cost of nato . Were paying a tremendous amount more than we should be from the standpoint of proportion. I look at that. I look at the fact that it was a long time ago. Theres nothing wrong with saying that a concept was good but now its obsolete or now its outmoded. Now, it can be trimmed up and it can be it can be reconfigured and you can call it nato. But its got to be changed. This thing was done many decades ago. Theres nothing wrong with saying its obsolete. But it is obsolete. And by the way, i took a lot of heat for saying that. Now everyone is agreeing with im reading pages of media where now people are agreeing with me. I always take heat. I mean, i listened to somebody this morning on one of your competing channels talking about the washington post. I gave a very good interview to the washington post. Frankly, i thought it was very good. Everybody was knocking on nato. Like they do when i talk about illegal immigration. I went through hell with illegal immigration. Now everyone is saying trump is right. When i talked about the problems that we have with trade, now theyre all saying trump is right. Same thing with nato. When i did that, two days i took abuse from the media. Falsely. Now people are saying, many, many people are saying, you know, trump is right. Hes absolutely right about nato. You have said that islam is at war with us. A lot of people wonder given some of your proposals, whether or not you would go the next step towards internment camps. I know you have never proposed that. Would you categorically rule out the idea of internment camps for american muslims . Is that something you would never i would rule it out. We would have to be very vigilant. Were going to have to be very smart. Were going to have to be very vigilant. And if were not very, very strong, and very, very smart, we have a big, big problem coming up. We have already had the problem. Check out the world trade center. Check out the pentagon. We have already had the problem. But i would say, you have to be extremely strong. You have to keep your eyes open. And by the way, muslims in our country have to report bad acts. Okay . When you look at what happened in europe, in brussels, where many, many people knew this thug from last week was living right in the midst of them, right only a few doors down from where he was living previously, they knew he was there. Nobody reported him. Petition you may have seen that is gaining strength. With more than 30,000 signatures. Its calling on the Republican National committee to allow delegates at the convention in cleveland to exercise their Second Amendment rights. By carrying guns to the convention. They have put this petition. Theyre calling on president ial candidates like you to quote call upon the rnc to rectify this affront to our Second Amendment freedoms and insist upon a suspension of the quicken loans arena unconventional gunfree zone. Should delegates be allowed to bring guns . I havent seen it. Im hearing about it for the first time. Ill certainly take a look at it and let you know. But i have not seen the petition. Youre open to the idea . I have not seen the petition. I want to see what it says. I want to read the fine print. Im a very, very strong person for Second Amendment. I think very few people are stronger. Im not going to comment to you when i havent seen it. Youre just giving me a few words. You are, as you said, probably the biggest critic of gunfree zones of any of the candidates. As you said, very strong on the Second Amendment. Forget the petition, what do you think of the idea of having delegates be able to carry guns . Exercise the Second Amendment rights . I dont want to forget the petition. I dont want to forget the petition, because youre talking about a petition. I will take a look at it. Its the first i hear about it. Of it. And, frankly, you know, nobody is stronger on the Second Amendment than me. I would like to take a look at it. Okay, now, youre getting closer and closer to getting the delegates that you need to clinch the nomination. But, look at what happened in louisiana. You won the state of louisiana. But it looks like ted cruz is coming out of there with more delegates. Maybe as many as ten more delegates. Hes getting them on the key committees that will write the rules for the republican convention. Is ted cruz tying to steal this nomination from you . System we have and what a rotten political system we have. And frankly, im im millions of votes more than i have millions of votes more than lyin ted. Millions. Millions of votes more. I have many, many delegates more. Ive won areas and hes trying steal things because thats the way ted works, okay . The system is a broken system. The republican tabulation system is a broken system. Its not fair. I have so many millions of votes more. Ive brought people into the party by the millions. You understand that. They voted by the millions more. Its one of the biggest stories in all of politics. And what do i have . I have a guy going around trying to steal peoples delegates. This is supposed to be america. A free america. This is supposed to be a system of votes. Where you go out, you have elections. Free elections. Not elections where i won. I won louisiana. And now i hear hes trying to steal delegates. You know, welcome to the Republican Party. Republican party is a disgrace. I have so many more votes and so many more delegates. Frankly, whoever at the end, whoever has the most votes and the most delegates should be the nominee. And i will beat Hillary Clinton. I havent even started on Hillary Clinton yet. I havent i had only one skirmish with her about two months ago. She didnt come out so well. I havent started on Hillary Clinton yet. Im focused on the two people i have left. All right, donald trump. Thank you so much for joining us on this Easter Sunday. Before we go, let me just ask you, what does this holiday, what does easter mean to you . What is the trump family easter tradition . Well, it really means something very special. Im going to church in an hour. Its going to be its a beautiful church. Im in florida. And, its just a very special time for me and it really represents family and get together and something, you know, if youre a christian, its just a very important day. All right, donald trump, thank you very much. Okay, thank you very much. Invited secretary clinton and senator cruz to appear in person or over the phone on the program. Both declined. We look forward to having them on soon. Now, lets bring on the power house roundtable for instant analysis of what we just heard. Bill kristol, editor of the weekly standard. Michael eric dyson, Georgetown University professor. And author of the black presidency. Marc kissel, Editorial Board member of the wall street journal. And lz granderson, Senior Writer at espn. Bill, i want to start with you. A raft of polling this week that is disastrous for the Republican Party. If you look at the general election matchup. Which donald trump just spoke about. He loses hugely to Hillary Clinton. But look at ted cruz. He also loses by almost ten points. The only candidate ahead of Hillary Clinton in that general candidate, john kasich, who has no chance of winning the nomination, or apparently doesnt. Whats going on with the party . Well, donald trump at the end of your interview, he raised out of nowhere, i can beat Hillary Clinton, because i think its beginning to hurt him among primary voters. On february 1st, trump trailed clinton by about three points in a bunch of polls on average. Now he trails by 11 points. Whats happened . The voters who matter, except trumps base of 38 of the republican electorate are not being won over by donald trump. Theyre being alienated and turned off by donald trump. Hes probably hurting the other republicans right now. I think ted cruz loses to Hillary Clinton by three or four points. Thats at least a competitive race. John kasich does the best. The gap between trump and the normal republican running against Hillary Clinton is great. Nominating donald trump elects Hillary Clinton, i truly believe that. Mary, do you think he can be outhustled at the end . You saw him. Those were strong words, talking about how cruz wants to rotten political system. In some respects, it was a misleading question. There are rules set up. And the candidates are following the rules. What donald trump is trying to do, what hes tried to do in that interview and others, is to set up new rules. Hes saying, if i get a plurality, i deserve to get the nomination. You said kasich has no chance of winning the nomination. You dont know that. Under the current rules, he wouldnt. Under the current rules you have to have but we dont know if the trump is going to get to that 1237. We dont know if cruz will. Clearly, its an uphill battle for ted cruz right now. Utah may be the canary in the coal mine here. Theres a poll in utah, the most republican state in the country, that said those voters would rather vote for Hillary Clinton and that for donald trump. Ted cruz seems to be pulling even with trump in wisconsin. Cruz may not do so well in new york. We just dont know yet. You have to let the process play out. Can kasich win the nomination . But if it goes to a convention, we dont know what would happen. Lz, what do you make of this . Well, ive been saying this for a couple of months now. I believe that what the Republican Party needs to do is go ahead and bite the bullet for 2016. Not hitch their wagon to donald trump. Just say, were going to lose 2016. Lets clean ourselves up and refocus on 2020. Because as you saw, no matter who wins the nomination, it looks like theyll lose to Hillary Clinton. The focus needs to be who can we start grooming today to defeat her in 2020, so shell be a oneterm president not a twoterm president. I hear concern this could be such a blowout on the president ial level they could be in danger of losing the senate, put the house in jeopardy, and theyre worried about the state house races down the ballot. Yeah. What is your sense . How much ofs opportunity do democrats see . Republican nominee, thats huge. And the reality is shes ahead, that is, Hillary Clinton, from 11 to 18 points, depending on who you poll. Ahead in the ten critical states. The swing states that are very important. Those won by seven points in 2012. Shes ahead. Those won by 7 to 12 points. So the point is, its a pretty powerful recommendation that Hillary Clinton is a dominant figure. On the other hand, i think the Republican Party has more soulsearching to do. To blame donald trump as the scapegoat is one thing. To see this is outgrowth of some incredible consternation from within. You just had a kind of, what was it, a reflection of the Republican Party under Reince Priebus that says, loorks we have to reach out to minority people. We have to broaden the tent, the rubric, the brand has to be recast. Its been recast, all right. In a very different direction. They didnt think that trump as a result, the Republican Party sees its worst nightmares realized and fantasies denied. Were just Getting Started with the roundtable. Much more with them coming up. And later, the manhunt widens on the brussels terror attacks. Were live on the ground in europe with analysis from our experts about what went wrong . Could it happen here at home . But first, one on one with Bernie Sanders after he trounced last night. From the Dairy Farmers of fairlife, this is our promise. We start with delicious, creamy, real milk thats then ultra filtered so fairlife has more protein and and only half the sugar. And never any artificial growth hormones. At fairlife, we believe in better. When heartburn hits fight back fast tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at the source tum, tum, tum, tum ok team, what if 30,000 people download the new app . Were good. Okay. What if a Million People download the new app . Were good. Five million . Good. We scale on demand. Hybrid infrastructure, boom. Ok. 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In alaska, the margin was even bigger. He scored over 80 of the vote. And in hawaii, another blowout. But sanders remains far behind in the total delegate count. Trailing Hillary Clinton by over 700 delegates. Senator sanders joins me right now. Senator sanders, congratulations. That was a big night. Thank you very much. So, you won big out there in those three states. Youre still way behind in the delegate count. But does that what does this mean for the race . Does this mean youre absolutely going through to the end . What it means is we won three landslides last night. We won 6 out of 7 contests in the last 11 days. We have cut secretary clintons lead by a third during that a National Poll just came out that had us one point ahead of secretary clinton when we started 60 points behind. In every national and state poll that i have seen, virtually every one has us defeating donald trump. Cnn has us defeating him by 20 points. Clearly, we have the momentum. At the end of the day, well end up with more pledged delegates than secretary clinton. Then i think the superdelegates have to make a difficult decision. That is, if a candidate wins in a state by 40 or 50 points, who are you going to give your vote to . And second of all, which candidate is better positioned to defeat trump or any of the other republican kantds . I think a lot of the superdelegates will conclude that its Bernie Sanders. You still need 73 of the delegates going forward, which is a huge no, we dont. No, no. I dont accept that. Thats not the case. Youre assuming that every superdelegate that now supports youre not taking into consideration the fact that there are hundreds of superdelegates who have not made a decision. We think we can win many of them. What we showed yesterday is in fact the momentum is with us. We think were going to do well in wisconsin. We think we got a real shot in new york. We go out to california, to oregon. Thats the most progressive part of america. We think were going to do very well there. I will not deny for one second that we still remain the underdogs. But we have come a long, long way, youll have to concede in the last ten months. We do have a path toward victory. You have heard democrats saying its time for you to lay off secretary clinton. Keep this positive. Stop the attacks on her wall street ties, her superpac. All of that. Are you going to start laying off . Or will you put the pedal to the metal here . We have just won 6 out of the last 7 contests. We have the momentum. We won three landslide victories the reason were doing well is were talking about the real issues facing the American People. And Campaign Finance is one of them. We have raised now 6 Million Individual Campaign Contributions averaging 27 apiece. Thats unpres denned in american political history. Secretary clinton has superpax. Shes raised some 15 million at least from wall street. Money from the fossil fuel industry and the drug companies. Do i think the American People need to know that . Is that an important issue . I think it is. Our votes on the war. I voted against the war in iraq. She voted for it. Thats an important issue. Im opposed to the continuation of fracking. She supports it. Those are important issues. Thats what a campaign is about. I do not run negative ads. Clearly contrasting my position with secretary clintons is what a campaign is supposed to be about. You said in an interview this liberal enough to be in the cabinet your cabinet. So let me ask you now after these wins, is she liberal enough to be a running mate . Would you consider her . Thats speculation. Hillary clinton is a person who has enormous i have anonymous respect for. Has a distinguished career. Were not into speculation right now. The reason were doing so well is were talking about not speculation, but the issues impacting the american middle class. Grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality. The decline of the american middle class. Millions of kids are graduating college deeply in debt. The reality that Climate Change is a Global Crisis that we have to deal with and take on the fossil fuel industry. Those are the issues im dealing with. Not speculating who my Vice President ial nominee would be. So, senator sanders, we saw a situation this week where an isis leader was taken out by forces on the ground in syria. Youre firmly opposed to boots on the ground. Is that something that raises concern for you . That is not accurate. I have said, in general, i support what president obama is doing. Of course im opposed to the United States getting involved in perpetual warfare in the middle east. I think what the president is trying to do is to destroy isis, putting together the kind of coalition that we need. The muslim troops have to do the hard work. The United States should have special forces there. 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Joining me now with more is abcs matt gutman in rome, Alexander Marquardt in brussels, and here at home from dartmouth college, former state Department Terrorism coordinator, ambassador daniel benjamin. Alex, let me start with you. What do we know about the charges handed down in brussels . Well, jon, the most serious charges have been brought against a man named faycal c. Hes in custody. Belgian authorities dont give out last names. Weve identified him as faycal cheffou. Hes been charged with terrorist murder in connection with tuesdays attacks. Is he one of two unidentified suspects . Is he the man in the hat . Or the man seen at the metro station . What we though know this morning from police is cheffou had been detained in the past for trying to recruit refugees for jihad. Direct link between the attacks in brussels and the attacks we saw back in november in paris. Thats right. There are several links. The strongest is that the suicide bomber on the left side of the picture, his name is najim laachraoui. His dna was found at the airport as well as on explosives in paris. Hes believed to be the paris bombmaker. His dna was found in safe houses where the paris attackers were here in belgium. And daniel, we heard from the belgian interior minister saying there was neglect. Neglect that led to security lapses in belgium. This seems like a dramatic understatement when you consider they had the alleged mastermind of the paris attacks in prison. They failed to question him, apparently, about the threat in brussels. And they ignored a series of warnings about these alleged attackers. I think there will be serious political consequences to be paid here. Im afraid that belgium has been way behind the curve in terms of taking the jihadist threat for many years now. It was a sbt subject of great concern of the u. S. Government. Belgium is not the only country in europe that needs to get up to speed. Are they there yet . Is there any reason for the people of belgium, the people of europe to have confidence that officials are going to get this problem under control . Well, i think the political pressure will be enormous. But at the same time, you cant go from 0 to 120 in a matter of weeks. It takes time to staff up. To learn new practices. To improve intelligence collection, surveillance, and the like. It could be a bumpy ride for some time. Matt, whats keeping europeans up at night now . What are they most concerned about . Whats the threat that most worries them . Will well, theres the conventional threat that weve become accustomed to. Overnight, the u. S. Department of state issuing a warning for turkey. Attacks during easter. And then theres this unconventional threat. That the belgians dont seem prepared. Somehow isis sabotaging a nuclear installation. Multiple European Countries warning about that. On thursday, a Security Guard at a Nuclear Plant in belgium was murdered. His i. D. Badge was taken. On friday, the next day, four employees at another plant had their i. D. S stripped from them. That is the biggest threat right now, jon. What is your sense, you have been there among the tens of thousands of faithful in the vatican for the popes mass. Are people on edge . Even there . Well, this country is still under its maximum alert. So people have been on edge. Although today, obviously, went very smoothly. But, there are 3,000 extra snipers on the rooftops here. Rings of security around st. Peters square today. I mean, if there is ever a soft target in europe, its st. Peters. The heart of catholicism on Easter Sunday. That threat seems to have passed for now. The italians say they monitor 1,000 tourist sites across the city. Yesterday, i got to meet with the commander of the nerve center of the Italian State Police here. I said, what worries you most . Is there one site that most concerns you . He said, all of them. So alex, we saw the second in command of isis was taken out by u. S. Special forces in syria. There have been other progress we hear. U. S. Officials talking about progress in the battle against isis in iraq and syria. What impact is that having on the threat in europe . The main fear is not a direct tit for tat retaliation. Because of that American Strike the other day. The growing fear is the fallout from what is happening in iraq just this morning, palmyra the ancient city that isis had controlled since may, retaken by syrian and hezbollan forces. Among their other allies. We spent time with the forcers earlier this month. Theyre very confident. Isis is being pounded by the u. S. Led coalition. The growing fear is that many of those thousands of isis fighters who are over there could come home. At the same time, those in europe who have been radicalized could think twice about going there and instead, focus on carrying out attacks here in europe. Daniel, what is your sense of how the threat is in europe compared to the threat here at home here in the United States . Jonathan, so three points. One is that as we mentioned before, the security environment is not nearly as good as it should be. And the europeans need to increase their game. Up their game in terms of coordination between Different National intelligence services. Isis in syria and iraq raises the premium on attacks in europe because isis needs to show it is still in the game. That it can still cause damage. That it can still score against its enemies. The third thing is of course, europe has a much larger problem with radicalization than the United States. Its Muslim Minority is said to more isolated, poorer, more alienated, less integrated. As a result, that has led to more people to turn to isis, to its ideology and to embracing violence. Europe has a real challenge ahead of it. Daniel, alex, matt, thank you. Coming up, were back with the powerhouse roundtable. Looking ahead to the general election and the possible trumphillary matchup. Plus, tango and terrorism. The controversy of the president s trip to latin america and his reaction to the brussels attacks. Latin brussels attacks. Were back with the powerhouse roundtable now. Michael, let me ask you. We just heard from ted cruz talking about the National Enquirer story as extreme, madeup lies. Is Hillary Clinton ready for the kind of attacks she would face . Against donald trump in a general election . As a woman, as a female leading candidate, the sexism that shes been sukted to is to answer the question briefly, yes. She hasnt faced anything like donald trump. Theres no question. But the nation hasnt faced anything like trump. Not only will she girder her loins, so to speak, people will see how devastatingly inaccurate many of Donald Trumps claims are, number one. Number two, with the kind of blowback from the established Republican Party alongside of decency and humanity that will be claimed, i think donald trump will have a hard time of it. Lz, republicans have tried, it took them awhile to get started with it. Theyve tried almost everything against trump. And every attack seems to backfire. How does hillary take him on . By staying true to what shes doing with Bernie Sanders. Trying to stay focussed in on the issues. I cant think of any Major Political figure who has been under so much scrutiny for decades upon decades. This is someone who has been in the public spotlight for, like, 30 years, and shes still standing. Donald trump as long as she stays true to the things shes been talking about for the 30 years. Can i ask you something, mary . You are the host. Hillary clinton versus donald trump, what do people like you do . Who is me . People that read the wall street journal Editorial Board. People that we think of as traditional mainstream republicans. You mean pro growth, pro reform republicans with policy ideas . What do you do . Muscular internationalism. What do you do . Donald trump is not the nominee yet. The weakest frontrunner since gerald ford in 1976. He loses by miles in a general election to both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. What would we do . We analyze every candidate based on their policies. You had a report on brussels. Donald trumps policy to fight the war on terror is effectively the same as president obamas. Hes advocating nationbuilding thats the kind of analysis we would do were he the candidate. Okay, let me try it with you. Bill, do you vote for Hillary Clinton . No. I dont vote for Hillary Clinton. I dont vote for donald trump. I think we can deny donald trump the republican nomination. If we fail to, we deserve to have a better choice than clinton or trump. Its a terrible choice. Plenty of decent people could run as independent republicans. I think they could do well. By the way, everyone is claiming trump the nominee. Could he take on clinton. The bottom could fall out in a general election. These guys want trump to be the face of the Republican Party. What do you mean these guys . I dont want donald trump to be the face of the Republican Party. Look at them. Theyre upset. When donald trump was buffeting barack obama, and as a birther, calling him an illegitimate american. Yes, there were some rbs that stood on the fringe. The Republican Party gets what they deserve in the sense of the inability to put a barrier between itself and donald trump. Interview. The vast reaches of unsagacity. That are revealed there. Unsagacity . Versus Hillary Clinton, whose give me a break. Im sorry i got to lz i just want to say, first of all, im not like a Hillary Clinton surrogate. There are no paychecks coming through my account because of donald trump or her or anything like that. My point is as an american first, it is embarrassing to me that this is someone who could represent major party. I totally agree. Im glad. Lets spend a little time looking at the lefthand side of politics. Hillary clinton. She voted for the iran deal. 150 billion to a state sponsor of terrorism. Hillary clinton supported pulling troops out of iraq that led to the rise of isis. Hillary clinton who said nothing when the iranians got out on to the streets calling for their own freedoms. Nothing, did very little when china started pushing out into the south china sea. Hillary clinton is linked to the obama presidency. Donald trump and everything surrounding him is preventing us from talking about that record and the last seven years. Thats whats so terrible about trump. Lets talk about that record. Lets talk about the record in this sense. The things you named there. What Hillary Clinton has done as the secretary of state is understood her role as an arbiter of an american will that is not artificially or arbitrarily imposed but creates a kind of dialogue. What people find problematic about president obama is he wont carry a big stick. He will not have the bluster of a donald trump. Its intelligent diplomacy in the service of american ideals. What you didnt mention was the police brutally issues. That are here in america. What you didnt mention was the ability of barack obama to at least speak intelligently to the issues of Domestic Division that donald trump has exploited. And the Republican Party has to pay the tab for that. Were out of time. Next up, the fight to get in our sunday spotlight this morning, a look at the fight to end veteran homelessness. This winter, i met up with tony jones back when he was one of the more than 47,000 veterans in as the Obama Administration and advocacy groups around the country push hard to get homeless vets back on their feet, were happy to report tonys life has taken a dramatic turn for the better. Tony, whats going on man . Look at you. Looking good. Yeah. Reporter it was three months ago we first met up with tony, a veteran of the u. S. Army infantry. He had been living on the streets of washington, d. C. , for years. Did you ever think you would end up like this . Homeless, living in a tent . Not in a million years. The light switch is right here. Reporter that was tonys last day of living in makeshift tent. Please, come in my casa. Reporter before the day was over, he moved into an apartment paid for by a Veterans Administration voucher. I feel like james brown. I feel good. Ow reporter this looks a little different than the last time i was hanging out with you. Yeah, im living large now. Reporter with some help from friends and miriams kitchen, the Outreach Organization that helped him get this apartment, hes been able to furnish it, stock his kitchen. A bunch of seasonings. Reporter look at the spice racks going, yeah, yeah. Get hearing aids for the loss he suffered in the army. Oh, man, thats a whole new world, man. These things are great. Reporter reconnect with family. You saw your brother . Yeah, i saw my brother. I saw my oldest brother. And ive been talking to my other brothers, too. I even spoke to my sisters. Reporter and hes gotten steady work as a bicycle courier for a local law firm. Hes a hard worker. We didnt know he was homeless because he would never let you know. Proud man. Always there. Give him a call, he runs right over. Works. Doing what he can to keep himself going. Reporter local homeless activists make a monthly trip to the offices of the d. C. Government. Where they withdraw Little Green Army men from a large bucket. One homeless veteran living on the streets of washington, d. C. 94 and 95. [ cheers and applause ] reporter this week, they counted out 95 more placed in permanent housing since we met tony last december. You set a very audacious goal, to end homelessness for veterans in washington. Were going to reach that goal. In the past 2 1 2 years we have housed 1500 a veterans in washington, d. C. We expect to end veteran homelessness in byhome lessness by the end of this year. You need to get in here. Reporter back at tonys place, surrounded by friends, his smile relays the pride that comes from having a home. Up on the hill, man. Love it. Yeah, on top of the world. Reporter absolutely. Yeah. And a very happy easter to tony. Thats all for us today. Thank you for sharing part of your Easter Sunday with us. Week. Why let someone else have all the fun . The sometimes haphazard, never boring fun. This all the time fun. The learning the virtue of sharing fun. Why let someone else have all the fun . Thats no fun. Unleash the power of dough. Give it a pop. This is. A warning for any and all americans traveling to europe this spring after the deadly terror attacks in brussels. Investigators now say the same isis terror cell that carried out the bombings in brussels pulled off the deadly attacks in paris last year. The nypd immediately stepping up security here in new york city and sending more officers to europe to learn about the terror attacks there. This morning, the chief of the department for the nypd, james oneill, joins us to talk about security here, there, and the worldwide fight against isis