Public. And the community. So i would like to say though that we have always known that your heart was in the right place and that in the last three months or so we have begun to realize that you are removing in terms of your mind and your perceptions especially about the poa. We are very pleased that the commission as a whole and you spearheading it a push back strongly against the poa. We are very happy that the lawsuit is being joined with bigger by the commissioned by the City Attorney as far as them try to stop the use of force policy but we are also very very pleased that you we believe were one of the people instrumental in getting an outside sheet. We think thats a very important issue for the commission. Going forward we very much like to see the new president and Vice President wherever it may be if the decision is made tonight, to be a little bit more open as far as welcoming the community a wholehearted way into the process because i think we are your allies we are doing very good work. So i hope that process continues to open up in front of the commission and you will welcome us into the stakeholder group, etc. Get accurate much for your service susie and we look forward to following in your career going ahead. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening class welcome. Good evening two things, first. The chief support chief chaplin your credit to the uniform you wear. You and scott work like a team thats never been seen. Im looking forward to that. Commissioner hicks, weve been there done that. You are special. You can handle the massive task you are getting it will be nothing for you. Nothing. A walk in the park. And ms. Pres. , all i can say is sheriff hennesseys gain is our loss but good for you. As far as the poa, i called him this morning. I wasnt very polite. There attack tactics are repugnant. They were rude. They were cool but youre nottheyve done it to me could they call me a drunk. Im not. They attacked gascon. He happens to be latino. The attack youshes black. Its all over the streets that you are racing. Its all over the news could get poa is race. Is documented did you read the examiner the comments leave those were Police Officers. The general public doesnt know. Those are cops. When i read those comes i wanted to puke. Those are cops. Rank and file officers. Hello. We will miss you could best of luck come back and see us once in a while width no worries cried. One of the ways i do survive as i dont read the comments, clive. Good evening good evening i hope you dont mind some substance i would love it. Sorry im going to give you a confession first. I hope he doesnt mind sharing this right youre not a rent to commissioner mazzucco on the street. [inaudible] i thought i dont think so. Then about a year ago i went to the first use of force input session at rev. Browns church that went into pres. Loftus for the sump quarter amid vineyard i give it a piece of my mind not to wish you challenge the big show up. Show up and engage. Thats the right message. It was the right message for me i dont regret engaging it was the right message to people that care about what this policewoman does i think what is going on here the commissioner loftus deserves credit for is frankly a time period were democracy feels threatened federally want people to engage locally. This is going to be all the more important the idea that you not only encourage dissenting views people that disagree with you strongly and i agree their process you can be more inclusive and more not quibble here we make better decisions from this department is Greater Community trust and confidence, the more engaged the community can be and the more this process works so motivate commissioner loftus are challenging me to put up or shut up. I chose to put out for a well. Now on the substance. On the collaborative performances should appreciate the checklist all capt. Conleys were. One of the things this commission can do is to think the bureaucracy is not to be moving get sometimes not about hostilities how bureaucracies did on things they dont want to move on and want to call attention to the [inaudible] the department of justice said you need to do a audit and the snow action on get the report came out in october and still have not been action on it and the cops office of the apartment just said that the tepid response. Just a few months ago im sorry just a couple weeks to capt. Conley with the newspaper the oddest audit had not taken place. Thats an example of the sort of thing i hope this commission will stay on top of. Because there is a cultural problem we have to seek it out and follow up on those thing. Thank you for your time once again. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome behaving commissioner loftus. Everybody but good evening. We have to wonder why the poa seems to attract the most corrupt and most polling swords could the police in general are great people but the words seemed to go into the leadership ranks of the poa. That is indicative of a problem in the Police Department number two, i was almost a vision zero fatality a few days ago that i was on montgomery street Vice President biden wasnt speaking as a medical demo we saw was all wrong but something on the streets of people, and theyll getting wet outside to go around to get to my office to go to work that day and was covered over by a police van. It was a me going 40 on montgomery st. If you all did your Due Diligence and got your permits get worked out at a time i would not have been hit and killed and was tied. Number three, commissioner marshall you need pres. Loftus to get through this and i take what he said seriously because you get through a lot in the last two years you are not dumb. Theres plenty more reform that still needs to get done. The tone seemed to indicate you are done the hard part youve done aot of the hard part theres plenty more to do. So youre not all the way through this yet. Finally, i just want to go to the listed you that the batch jams you get the new use of force policy you get new chief on the way although i like the old chief just fine. You got you commissioner ong hing whose name i refuse to utter in public because he such a disgrace. Youve got commissioner turman who taught to stop your producer from giving up toll a sweetheart deal a couple months ago so theres even some Slight Movement in the forming the regulation of the patrol specialist. So we have momentum. This project moment and i think its a loss for the commission to lose pres. Loftus. Julie some communication of the momentum and your gut need to keep the momentum going. Thank you. Thank you. Any further Public Comment . Yes. Ms. Brown. Welcome good evening. Aye speak hi. I just once a onset that youre leaving also. I just want to thank you, 24 all the years that of them coming here. As a mother to mother, i felt that you always help me represent my son and your mother taking his picture and putting it in her house whenever she puts it. Thank you. Im sad to see you leave because now who is going to talk for me . So it really hurts. I still need someone to say my sons name can i still need someone to say if anyone knows about who murdered my son. I still need that. Now that you are gone, i am wondering whats going to happen now. You know, this transition into the newto everyone is due to the new police chief. The new president. I mean im turman is going to be the new president and i know he is going to talk about my boy, to but im just going to miss seeing you and your mom here. Come back and wherever you are, still talk about my son please. Thank you we thank you get if anyone has an information to the murder of operate because of this Anonymous Tip Line and call 415 5754444. I wont be far. Next speaker. My name is john jones. They please admission i to regret your leaving commissioner loftus. When i first addressed the commissioner earlier early last year was a very frightening experience for me get this is not something i do usually. Addressed public assemblies such as this but this commission and you in particular commissioner loftus, always been somewhat welcoming to speakers regardless of the perceived merits of what they say. I like to think you commissioner loftus and the other commissioners as well as well as you director hicks new chief chaplin are being appearing as open and being in fact as open as you are. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Welcome. Welcome and good evening is the last, mother, i just really did want to, say thank you you sell yourself short. Thats not necessarily the case i think youve done a great job as Commission President i know i come here and im a critic but youve always let us speak and be very spectral and handle the job well i thank you for that because Public Service is not easy being with the public is not easy i just decided as i come to these meetings weekly and i read you were leaving. So its a mixed bag its our last. Im sad but i wish you the best of luck with the Sheriffs Department thank you for everything and i want to say davis is one my habits and thats my neighborhood and i know work she has done that made it so much safer so i thank you for your heart and your commitment and doing everything you can to help keep our kids safe and to have this Great University without objection and i know theres more stories like that but this is just a very special one so thank you i think ill see chief chaplin but i want to say thank you for everything youve done that i dont think was easy in your position in the time you came on. Ive seen changes in the culture and we still have a long way to go but i appreciate your hard work and i thank you, too. Best of luck am sure will still be hearing about you. Thank you your mom is great and i burst my daughter all the time. [laughing] was that obviously . I thought i had a pokerfaced thank you get any further Public Comment . Items onedate. Public comment is closed. Sgt. Next item item three presentation of the sfpd occ report general orders policy proposals sparks report quarter 2016 discussion. Good evening welcome ms. Marion and Kevin Connolly are you joining . Welcome. Good evening pres. Loftus vp turman director hicks im so nervous because im sad. Im sad about what i feel like an evident here. Chief chaplin members of the public, commissioners, im here to get the reports on the sparks report which is a report that started back in 2006 and the good thing about it its over 79 pages. Another man to go feel like my gosh whys it so long. I think that one of the great things about it you can see what happened in the last 10 years when you look at 2014 until now you can see a lot of great progress especially around [inaudible] use of force, run cit especially for Domestic Violence, victims Sexual Assault victims. That way its really fabulous document. Im here to us to talk what thirdquarter 2016 and actually old news. The apartment and her agency we worked to ring forward the use of force. We worked hard on cit. Those things came to fruition in the Fourth Quarter and you heard a lot about that in december. Another thing that her agency did and we do this every month is we work withwe have Language Access working groups so we meet every month to really resolve Language Access issues specifically around Domestic Violence and also run Sexual Assault one thing weve done in this last year and its truly a testament about the way in which collaborative reform has been championed with this commission is not only to eight meet once a month for the Language Access working group to reach out to the dist. Atty. s office to the head of their Domestic Violence units. Im working with the sexualthe special victims unit as well as in the department on the status of women in adult probation so we give really look at what are some of the gaps when we look at Domestic Violence prosecution and investigations and are they a way to enhance those investing for several months we could together really what i hope is a robust if they come friends of Domestic ViolenceDepartment Bulletin that had the input of Community Stakeholders as was all these other divisions or departments so we can really fill in those gaps. So that is something we worked on for quite some time and right now the department is reviewing it and her hope is it will be released soon. So there really concludes by presentation. Thank you so much get thank you pres. Loftus again it is our loss. Its with Great Sadness to see you go. The sheriff mark they are lucky. I hope weve got lots of opportunities to collaborate in the future and thank you to the commission for really supporting elaboration and supporting all these projects. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for all your partnership and work. Capt. Connolly thank you pres. Loftus commissioners. Just very brief overview thirdquarter. There were two department general orders actually issued in the quarter. One was the social media policy and the other Crisis Intervention Team general orders and was additional water worked on use of force obviously which is probably been the longest of the fork and then we are also working on transgender policy which is looking at different definitions and making our policy more relevant and important. The party brought in experts to develop a baseline a policy and its going to concurrent process. In addition to those general orders, their 25 priority bulletins. A priority bulletins are are designed to either supplement or care five policy either that exists in general orders were standalone amendment to those general orders so the 25 some of the significant ones were always lead body one cameras which supplemented the new general order and we wanted to principles to consider regarding the use and application of force. Again with the implementation of departmental 5. 01, it took and incorporated the language from those portions that were issued in the third quarter. Were 17 the rival parties and seven c for a total of 49 total. So you will hear additional reporting for fourthquarter [inaudible] and department of justice recordation is to essentially evaluate the process by which general orders are created and we are looking to streamline that. Thats what the commissioners recognition that we are working with a project manager. Thank you and colleagues by way of the newer members, the sparks report on the consent calendar we get this large spreadsheet that had where everything was. The purpose and nothing we have done in the collaborative process debbie occ department and present with her neatly working with diaries arc is the opportunity the commission to weigh in on areas that are policy priorities for the commission and make sure were on the same page we been pretty clear with body cameras use of force cit. The that that agenda very clear i think thats what got them resulted as you all look at the next stage the sparks report and this collaboration is really a wonderful way to ensure all the priorities are moving forward. Is this you commissioner dejesus or vp turman yes. I have question about the transgender policy that we are currently in the process capt. Connolly mentioned some subject matter experts. I assume that one of those is the Human Rights Organization commission the man writes teresa parks. Yes. We brought teresa parks in. [inaudible] have you also consulted with Transgender Law Center as well . Yes. We have internal and external stakeholders were involved in the process and as it moves through concurrence there may be changes to the wording. It was mostly defined for to bring clarity to the current definitions and make policy more expensive. In our packet is the general the rules of conduct trip is that in connection with this particular report or is that something we were given just to review . I dont believe it is my general pocket general order 2. 01 okay. Thank you very much thank you anything further, colleagues . Sgt. Next item we need Public Comment is the public, on the sparks report queen. Public comment is closed. Next item the item 2 approval of the Words Committee recognition action spews is a great commissioner mazzucco for this item or Vice President turman i am ready to proceed he was okay Vice President turman last week we have specific questions posed the week before by commissioner dejesus about individuals that are were on the list. Since that time weve had a thorough review of the list and asked commissioner mazzucco to take charge of that review and i will let him since he is now here sgt. K shaw report on that. Commissioner mazzucco yes. Thank you vp turman. We did in abundance of caution we went through some of the words. I know we ratify the occ director one of the things want to ensure the public is that the officers receiving these words are not under a short disciplinary investigation related to the award were any other matter. So what weve done is an abundance of caution we reviewed what we have before us for the actual medals about which of the gold silver and bronze i can report back to after my meeting with our Police Commission secretary sgt. Phil show, our counsel, from the City Attorneys office and deputy chief hector sinus, that these members are being recommended for these metals at our ceremony to not have any pending investigations related to at the occ level were the Police Department level for any misconduct whether its misconduct that would remain at the chiefs level of misconduct that was brought to the commissioning so they are all clear and theres nothing in their files and indicate there is an issue. Commissioner ong hing yes. As i recall last week when we were going over this and please correct me if my memory is incorrect. That was a question that sgt. Joe shaw answered your the end of the presentation that were six individuals that happened was something pending. Did you review those six and are those six on this list were some people eliminated . I will say right now i can say we had a discussion in the be further just shouldnt this commission about what is quick to be up our official policy has to be codified. It but i can tell you on this list youre not one of those six areas of concern exist on this list of medals. The were some concern about people that were going through the process investigations with no findings were on the other list for Police Commission commendation. Which are not given out at our medal of valor sermon only the metals. None of those six are on this list it nobody was illuminated from this list. Those six remain on the very large extremely large list of those were recommended for Police Commission commendations. We will be considering that tonight. Thank you anything further on this matter . Okay commissioner dejesus question . Yes. I was not here last year i did try to watch on tv i could not find you guys. They were not as big a hit as we think we are we are mostly watch on wednesday nights. At 5 30 pm. Channel 26. My question is here two weeks ago when i was here i asked i think if anyone had any civil cases pending and i think internal affairs were occ and i guess involved in a navy officer involved shootings in which we been embroiled in the last year. 18 months. I dont know if you look at it . Mr. Barrow would you like to respond to that . So theres a couple of issues being brought up one is that right. The general orders for the department words to not specifically spell out exactly terms of discipline those areas of concern that are being brought up now. So my advice to the commission is to do a resolution to set the criteria, revise the dg out that moving forward we know exactly what the criteria is because its not set out in dj oh. So that way its codified and completely clear that its within the commissions discretion to decide what the criteria is. We get into a sticky situation when we are talking about Police Officer personnel records because the commission itself doesnt have better access to them as we have to be mindful of that. So under that guise my advice is to revise the dj oh and put . Clear criteria what you want to the Interactive Department to do the backing. That way the department will make it Accountable Department accountable to make sure those areas of concern are truly vetted. Thats exactly what we discussed during our conference with counsel and i would ask the question because i was concerned about myself learning about departmental investigations because we set for members of the bug we sit and apartheid judicial publicity capacity as commissioned it would be like a judge prehearing a case but still at the level of the district Attorneys Office with their deciding whether or not to prosecute. So but i want towe do need to address this issue is that criteria that its very important that i want to go all the matters of public and everybody here today, this list in front of you tonight by one of these officers is anything open or pending anywhere. So we do not have to get into that issue. All perfectly pure. I the question for City Attorney it is a resolution on the books and its either hector but sold the resolution of your present either the valor owner they have to check and look for intel us about. Ive seen it in the newspaper when angela brought up that brought that all resolution out. Okay. I did ask the commission to provide me with all the information and that was not presented to us. So i can go back and double check with the commission. Okay. Anything further on before i invite a motion . Is there a motion i move approval of the words second. B was Public Comment on this matter thank you i dont have a motion opinion on a motion is uploaded worker. Support for the commission understand appreciate the worst of apartheid judicial but actually managerial function. While i respect the City Attorneys office, [inaudible] means you have to read keep the records confidential. You do not have less power as the police of cheap guns as manager of the common devices records as was her cat confident i much say you should as part of hospitals born to recognize this i get youre not a judge youre not a jerk. Were using this process to administer administrative discipline in the exact same way the chief of police does the chief of police for 010 days suspension obviously has access to an officers entire file get important things you remain impartial not prejudge the fax. Thats the important thing for this rate of discipline role with this idea that somehow this is like a judge or criminal court could come accord is gone reasonable doubt it is sending some major prison that is not this. This is administrative discipline by a preponderance of the evidence to make a decision to the officer get a few days off and worse case scenario, termination and hope that you go forward and think about your role you keep that in mind and ask the question if we are performing the same function that the chief of police is exact same in the charter, why you would have Less Authority in that position is. Thank you i need to make a comment desirable is not the same as the chief of police good its a few days off we went up to getting it. You make decisions up until more than 10 days until termination we also sent as a body where we review where we hold hearings, here witness statements, review evidence and then come back as a commission to make a final decision. So i do agree that its not quote unquote does a mr. Dish but is not the same role as the chief of police is. Okay. Any further Public Comment on this matter . Hearing none, Public Comment is closed. We have a motion any discussion, colleagues . Hearing none, hadnt did you have any discussion you know after okay. Lets go ahead and sgt. Speed please take roll call on a motion to accept the approval of the awards Committee Recommendation loftus aye turman aye marshall aye dejesus aye mazzucco aye ong hing aye. The motion passes 60. All right madame president i could ask you to consider an additional motion that i wouldve to make. Yes. Please i making this motion after motion we just made because i want to ensure that the officer got the award that the command has recommended him for. But im going to at this point take the rare step asking this commission to look at the award the command staff made here facts and information and actually awarded the officer a higher level of award than what the captain and the command staff asked for. I believe that this specific officermy not supposed to mention the name, do you know queen no. You have to i believe ofc. Rinaldo a lamonte should not just received a silver award. A silver medal about what he should be awarded the gold medal of valor and to help make that case im asking his captain , four commission secretary, now capt. Tim fawlty to step forward and present that information to the commission. He is procedurally all second the motion. Thank you, bill. Welcome good evening commissioners. I am capt. Timof your San FranciscoPolice Department engrave the Commanding Officer of the tackle company. Very privileged to share this information with you about the actions taken by one of my officers officer arnoldo almond. If you Like Commission all just go over the facts of the case of the present of them that day please can do. Spews out take this out every second 2016 interviewer called the time the city is in the midst of celebrating super bowl l activities in the buildup to the game in santa clara that we can get officer all lamonte was part of the citywide unity which of the bomb squad sponsor. Was out working with his dog, ringo would been certified as a bomb detection canine. Thats kind of a significant distinction as you will hear later in this telling of what happened. As officer almond was in control apartment of Emergency Management dispatches broadcast that a chp officer had been severely wooded by a knife wielding suspect that the highway 80 onramp at essex street. The upside suffered a lifethreatening injury. The officers throat was cut by the suspect. While he was trying to detain him. Ofc. Aleman respond to the area to look for the suspect we pulled up that the corner of fourth and brandon he saw a person we thought looked like most of the suspects description. Based on his training he knew, sometimes criminals will discard clothing items as they are fleeing and this person had just dropped a backpack and taken his shirt off but when officer almond looked at him the person stared at him intently and he felt at that moment this is probably the guy. He pulled his car over a notice the person didnt rate his stance just of there and started officer on delete open the door which point the suspect turns went into the Wells Fargo Bank at the corner. Ofc. Aleman was concerned he that the bank may be crowded and he thinks to himself that the suspect would just try to kill a police other is going to acquire bank it to go after him right away did he do not dispatches dog because the dog was not certified for patrol. He left the dog in the car the radio dispatch and told him going to the bank i have a think i have a suspect. As he walked to the doors of the bank the people in the bank draws standing pointing at the back door beating to the parking lot at the south came in and based on his behavior when he fled they knew the officer that is who he was looking for the officer on the month pursued him out into the back parking lot of the bank it now in his mind he knows he believes that suspect just cut the throat of it also may still be on. So he pulled out his department pistol pointed it at the person and ordered them to the ground. The whole time hes looking at the suspect tried to see if theres a weapon on him. He doesnt see a weapon in the suspects hands but he sees the suspect hands are covered in dried blood. So he knows hes with the right person this person is tried to kill a Police Officer is not listening to his verbal commands. At this moment practices deescalation. He sees theres no weapon in the person painted leaves the person may have the weapon but since its on as he also takes out his baton continues to get verbal commands ordering the person to get on the ground both im trying to create time and distance until backup can arrive to assist him and taken the suspect into custody. Its at this point ways that his baton out the suspect started dancing on the officer. Try to come at him. Officer almond continues to get verbal commands backing first to strike the person with his baton. He backs up again. The person continues to advance on officer all lamonte then took his baton and struck him twice in the legs try to slow his event. I know that at this moment the suspect bunches forward and grabs officer on womans ire arm with both hands and tries to whip it out of the holster. So now he stand there by himself in a parking lot fighting a person just tried to kill a Police Officer worried that he still has a knife with him if you look at it seems hes got the presence of mind to sit there and give verbal commands you striking without trying to get him off and as the guy grabs his gun just to stop hitting the baton grabs his gun and uses some of the techniques economy teaches on retaining your firearm. So he got the guys got the firearm with both hands pulling on its. He continues to try to ds could you try to break on you try to push the guy often to can refer back to get there is not given the opportunity. The suspect then comes up and grabs officer all lamonte tries to go for his throat and tries to apply agile cold to him. Officer on the month sensing this with the suspect is try to drops his weight down and is able to get out of the grip much of the suspect back, takes his baton out still not seen the weapon and at this time hes able to grab the suspect by his shirt collar and bring them to the ground as other officers respond and assist officer almond and taken into custody. One of the officers who responded to the scene said it was an incredible sight by something of a martial arts movie officer almond strike in the suspect with the baton seemingly with no affect the suspect continued to actively pursue ofc. Aleman. Coming at him with all he had. He said officer almond was vigorously defend himself not backing down and giving it his all as if in a fight for his light. We taken the suspect into custody this officer was a witness officer, saw the open knife in the back pocket of the suspect readily usable as a stabbing implements. He grabbed it and threw from the pockets of the suspect cannot reach it during the continued strike one of the sergeants who responded the scene said he was concerned after the long period of dead air the officer had not come up on the year. He was a yet to the bank is one of the first backup officers to get. He said people were frantically pointing to the back of the bank to the parking lot because they could see what was going on out there. He witnessed the subtype byway yanking officer almond also despite being struck with force but the baton was obvious officer was in great danger was defend himself the intensive determination. It took several officer to the subject on the ground the actively fought them until he was finally restrained in handcuffs. Officer almond them straight a high school the Situational Awareness strange and bravery in this incident. He knew was dealing with someone who just try to kill a Police Officer. He believed firmly and listened that the suspect was still on without it was readily use. And pretty continued to try to take the person into custody so long as he do not see the thread of the night in the suspect hands at that time. The suspense of options he anticipated the Different Things he could do it is like try to pull him around the neck until menu how to get out of holdings into subsequent to bring the suspect to the ground he get his my focus will simultaneously utilizing weapon retention skills [inaudible] it was for his activity that date the weve nominated officer almond premedical about. Thank you, capt. He was denied when nothing of his commander of investigations at the time. Responded directly to that scene. The people at the bank said it was incredible to see this officer do what he did. Babes can assure them he was going to have tissue but he made a bunch of decisions that quite friendly in the same situation i dont know if other officers wouldve made the same determination. He just at every step of the way he was controlled in everything he did and properly and everything he did and the number of people that came up and said they were really afraid that this officer was going to get seriously injured or killed was amazing to me and he showed a lot of debris in the situation and is definitely to be commended. So i want this commission to hear no one to reemphasize some things that both are chief and captainsaid. And emphasize themselves. Officer almond holstered his gun. He created time and distance. He used verbal commands. And when thatwhen he did not respond to verbal commands, he did not reach for his gun. He backed up. He continued to try to engage in the person until other officers arrived. [cough] the suspect was still armed with his knife. And all this time whether in the chokehold or wrestling or in immediate contact, officer all lamonte could have used his gun and whether or not we want to argue from a policy standpoint whether that was appropriate, that couldve happens. But this officer did the things we wanted officers to do. He used his training. He used common sense. And he used the kind of Critical Thinking that this commission expects from officers. That kind of behavior in such a situation i have to respectfully disagree with the command staff and say it deserves a gold medal. I have made the motion and commissioner ong hing has seconded. Thank you, capt. In terms of some perspective on this for the newer commissioners, its a very storied tradition of the command department and the command staff and the capt. To decide what level of award someone gets for their bravery. So i really want to thank you vp turman that our role in this is to approve it and take the rare opportunity to reallyit is superseding our judgment the judgment of the captains and the command staff and i think that we do that very spirit and the vp turman i think you made a number incredible points it is incredibly brave officer. And thats ultimately what a gold medal of valor is is about. His life was clearly in jeopardy and he did absolutely everything he could to preserve the sanctity of life for everyone involved. I just want to acknowledge this is not an easy thing to do. Finished ordinary measure the commission would take and i believe that this officer certainly is more than do this on her. Colleagues, anyone else before we take a vote . Commissioner mazzucco commissioner turman was present during the presentation theres always a commissioner present and most of us have not always done that before, its a vote thats taken by the entire command staff and every Civil Service rank capt. I dont know how many people in the room that day but was the mass that you, the folks were in the room that date . A lot. Most were captains whether get some of our i dont know the exact count 37 is the exact count it for members of the public if the system been in place for a long time. The captains seek a revote by putting a marble in the toolbox and the color of the marble is gold silver or bronze were black for Police Commission in addition it is a majority of marbles to get to a gold and sometimes its really close. Its very close. The different opinions. But i was different to the capt. Chief and to the commissioners present you this is not unprecedented we did it once before. Appears back for officers who also used great restraint and did not fire and not only i warmly support this changing of this metal to a gold and i do respect the command staff and the voters could i do know how close was by much was probably pretty close. Okay. Anything further, colleagues . So it got a motion on the floor. If we take a vote is there any Public Comment on this matter . Hearing none, Public Comment is closed. Sgt. Please take roll call zoo on the motion to upgrade officer on although all the month award from the silver to gold medal of valor commissioner loftus aye turman aye marshall aye dejesus aye mazzucco aye ong hing aye. The motion passes 60 great thank you vp turman thank you everyone at congratulations while the awardees could look forward to having doing a when the ceremony is yes. It separate 15th of this year. At the scottish auditorium on 19th and sloan. Begin at 6 pm all are invited. Great did thank you for that. Sgt. Speed next item 4 election of commissioned officers action. So are rules but was was to do elections in may. We are we miss that deadline about every year. So we have an election in january i way of just i think the driver started i was elected in september. It took a few estimates it was elected in september and i think was reelected in may and then