Transcripts For SFGTV Transportation Authority Finance Committee 21417 20170220

Probable are a robust packet for you next month so the bills were recommending e recommending positions on the main one is are ab one and the transportation funding bill youve probably heard about 6 billion and passages being negotiated the governor has indicated his own passage that is 4 billion a year and that he expects it to be resolved by april 6th i think is what was said so expect to be taken up on that soon were r were recommending a support position on ab 28 the urgent bills for the corrections to reinstate caltrans authorization to be signing on behalf of the permit holder Highway Administration for the documents that is critically important for the Construction Projects especially in Southern California so near the top of peoples priority lists and finally a core position on the bill 342 that is celebrated earlier this week with the automated enforcement legislation and then ear recommending one position on ab 65 there is one bill that one bill trying to kill high speed rail well have a dozen topics to talk about as well so there are already a number of bills on the horizon we anticipate discussing the one that got announced was Supervisor Scott Wiener constitutional amendments for the transportation bonds 65 percent so thats the case of things to come were excited to work with the delegation and mark watts in sacramento ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. I have a question has to do with with assemblyman chius ab 42 the Police Department didnt support this because of job loss what you explain. Ill have to check with mta thats what we heard as well. In what y way will there be job loss. Speaking in speculation that likely has to do with with the autotion and there is concerns about who reviews the camera footage thats a question how the labor is distributed. I think item 4 were expected to vote on this is that right . To vote in support. To remedy the position of support yes. But we dont have all the answers. Ill be happy to if you want to continue that ill get you the information. Commissioner yee. Yeah. Well the in particular ab 342 i fully support some as we know there is one hundred and 402 locations using this. Technology. Mechanism. And unfortunately california doesnt allow for local jurisdiction to implement those types of programs thats why were having this and we know that the when vocations the percentage of casualties have gone down thirty to 40 in some cases depending on how you use it the question i have is it says the bill would authors no longer than january 2014 what is the what would be the general procure that was introduced at the state level and goes to where . How currently can we pass this. Yeah. So it would go to the committee my understanding not im not sure if theyve fourthed im sorry the Assembly Committee and full assembly and to the senate referred to committee and back to the senate if there is an amendment back to the assembly and then to the governors desk too tall approved this year combaktdz january 1st, 2018, but an interest in discussing with the stockholders before the bill was introduced a longer than timeframe to allow for additional xhfbsz before it is presented. Is this considered to be part of the bill. Probably if it didnt get through this year. Hopefully yes. Okay can we have a fuller discussion of this at the full board. Yes. Because i think there is questions as supervisor i mean commissioner cohen brought up. Okay. Thank you i think we have a question from commissioner fewer. Thank you another concern i had about this was whether i understand that it is through the enforcement of feed a camera for the vehicle itself and not the driver in a violation is to look at it occurred and the car owner will be the one that is issued the citation; is that correct. My understanding thats correct i think that is how the enforcement cameras and the like also operate. And then so we cant be sure that is the driver and themselves that are actually being fined that is the owner the vehicle arrest person that is the registered person and also i understand there is a fine that represents any sort of you know point sort of system you know isnt a point off youre driving record. Thats correct. I also wanted to respond to commissioner cohens about the loss of jobs as my husband was a traffic cop in the last 9 years and 35 year career he understand why they might perceive right now we rely heavy an Law Enforcement to be trained professionals to administer the citation we rely 100 percent and till when tickets are issued by Police Officers that it does have a deterrent effect one the rare things that actually decline is actually because not about the fine it is really about the points so i understand bodies but this could be seen as a loss of jobs because frankly Police Officers are the ones trained to do this type of enforcement with the discretion and then also even sometimes shooting radar; right . A mechanism that determines if their speeding or not and also am concerned that if it is just a fine that how much of a determinant will be so maybe at the full Board Meeting thats one of my concerns. Ill defer to sfmtas much greater experience moindz that making it a fine and instead of a point allows local involvement in the enforcement rather than having a more rigorous point basis that requires different agencies to get involved with that. One point i want to jimgz in before commissioner fewer and commissioner ronen were on the body i was reminded we took up on item the ta taken a resolution of support for a f c the automated Speed Enforcement this is not new before this body but for edification had is new is the job loss that was not discussed are teased out before we get to ms. Hang but give supervisor ronen an opportunity. I appreciate and want to echo my colleagues concerns about this item and happy well have a robust discussion at the full Board Meeting i wanted to understand what are the mechanics how it works and the treasurer is trying to remove fines against you know individuals that are having a hard time making it in San Francisco this runs counter to it having a new type of fine that makes it often hard for people to live in the most expensive city in the country so i really you know have concerns of job loss and concerns about privacy issues and about the person actually doing the speeding that is ticketed out of concerns of additional fines impact our residents hearing much the thought Pedestrian Safety and make sure that we said all the implications of this bill before we recommend moving forward. Right . Just to we did adopt support positions in general in 2015 that was included that the state legislative Program Supporting the sfmta im sure theyll be more than happy to have a longer discussion i know the program is not flow flushed out in the legislation and know there is a acute awareness of the equity those types of infractions and penalties so i think there was a full hearted understanding to trying to figure out a way to acknowledge that in the actual enforcement of the bill so i think that is on everyones mind. Great thanks. Well commissioner tang. Ill make a comment. Okay. Commissioner. I think that is a fair question to ask whether or not the one and 42 places you can use this theyve lost jobs because of this i think that is fair i speculate that there has not been impact especially, when i know San Francisco for instance, everyone is asking for not enough Traffic Control officers out there as today i mean, if we could put them all over the place as a program whether a moving target one not stable you know which seems to have the most impact. Which again youre not putting it in the Street Corner in my mind better than traffic officers just one thing i im not sure the argument that the some of the stating statewide organizations are making yes. Yes. My understanding as coming from the state level i know that sfmta is working with the local departments but i will let them speak to the organizers. Ill let executive director. Thank you for the questions well definitely prepare a briefly on the proposal as it is from Assembly Member chu and wanted to mention when mayor ed lee and commissioners then supervisor yee was present at the event discussing the legislation the Police Captain or capita scott from the sfpd was there and captain ali working with vision zero and the sfmta Police Department this is a really comprehensively o comprehensive proposal and the families that also spoke at the events would be important to hear from and certainly to arrange that may not be not for this Board Meeting hopefully in march to prepare a proper comprehensive just want for you all. A quick question what is the timeline on this particular piece of legislation. Right . We have a whole session i think that was introduced the idea to solicit this type of engagement inform urgency. Thank you commissioner yee. I wanted to add that im going to be introducing a resolution today well can i say that at the board to support this particular legislation hoping to ask for a couple of days to have the families talk about it. Okay. Thank you. Thats good to know all right. Lets take Public Comment im sorry is your presentation complete okay Public Comment. Ladies and gentlemen, one card ms. Eileen there you are come forward. District 4 and form cac member im here to support ab 342 im also here to support an amendment to ab 3423 expands the enforcement cameras the sfmta vehicles including violations the moving violations include the california vehicle code which is a violation that relates to pga a transit vehicle in an unsafe manner that was followed on the successes of 1287 and hancock for the presentation of photo enforcement cameras on the contra costa to ticket the vehicles stopped in transit only and the taraval meeting director reiskin stated the support for the use of photo enrollment cameras an transit vehicles to ticket the cac 2156 at yesterday a capitals planning meeting on vision zero and other tops they requested the director reiskin to submit a letter of support to this community for todays meeting for the proposed amendment the Community Requested that director reiskin submit a letter of support directly to Assembly Member chu to support this amendment prior to the first meeting on march 10 were requesting that the ct and submit a letter of support to Assembly Member chiu, i understand from the lady a concern this may impact the bill as stated well support a separate bill if this was the case thank you. Thank you very much for your comments any other any Public Comment . Public comment is closed. This year this is an action tell me how would you like to handle this. Any discussion we could continue we could take a vote, we could yes. Commissioner. Maybe im bias i would recommend we accept those recommendations and the position and move it to the i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. All right. I, support this in the meantime get the answers to the questions particularly with the jobs once it is to the full board how are you with that . Okay wait sorry well for the entire item with the recommendations not remove the particular bill is there any way to remove that bill. Theres a way we can do that as well if you want to do that. I prefer to do that. May i make a suggestion why not make a motion to amend and remove the Assembly Bill 342 for further study and the rest four other suggestions so moved. laughter . Okay all right. Mr. Clerk did you get that was there a second. Does this require and roll call vote. There is a vote on the amendment to withdraw Assembly Bill 34245 please call the roll. Same house, same call . All right. Same house, same call . Roll call. Roll call. All right. On the amendment to remove Assembly Bill 342 in support commissioner cohen can you refer. Basically changing the position from a support to a wash position on the Assembly Bill 342. inaudible . Okay. Just sever Assembly Bill the recommends. Commissioner fewer commissioner ronen commissioner yee. Okay that item passes. Okay. Thank you very much on the underlying items commissioners. Im go ahead and remove the rest with a with a positive recommendation. Colleagues, can we take that without objection . Same house, same call . Thank you. All right. Thank you very much call the next item, please. Item 5 a application. Now we served it do we need to take a vote on it. No. Well take a vote on next month at the full board and i get it thank you. So we have that will sync of nicely with what youre doing. Item 5 recommending on call oversight for the general engineering for the executive director to execute the contract for 3 years to extend with two, one year period and in the amount not to exceed 26 million and authors the executive director to have nonmaterial concerns this is an action item. Good morning Deputy Director happy to present item 5 the one call management oversight and general Engineering Services contract i want to start with on overview of the Capital Projects division in terms of what we do and the assistance in particular we need moving forward and then through the procurement details and talk about how in essence we do business working with the consultants in this regard. Lets start with the major Capital Projects that the c p division has direct interaction with all the staff that goes ahead and a. D. Minors those the list frankly up to 10 million of improvements we have been an active part with all the city departments inform those and seeing over the fiduciary for the prop k funds i want you to get an understand it is critical we have consultants in the critical areas in that regard now i want to talk about reels instead of oversight but projects were managing were in essence the sponsor and lead agency with the construction for example, the first is the west off and on ramps off john Burton High School were moving forward with another approximately 200 million of improvements so we looked to this list for us to use in terms of project management and other Technical Expertise what is new the new hat as the Transportation Authority to all improvements associated with the Treasure Island Management Program and working in partnership with the Treasure Island Development Authority for the tolls on and off the id like and significant ferry improvements another 3 years of work before we turn on the tolling system but look to systems for help other projects on the city that is highway 101 managed lanes were finishing and planned some in the near future with an update open progress with the san mateo and caltrans and others on the 20dz corridor other projects in the specific districts 280 and after offramp our team and Consultant Team a preparing the environmental documents for that and were close to obtaining approval for that in the spring there are other prolongs for example, i mentioned pedestrian improvements that be complete in the studies were ready in terms of that project forward just to be clear scombrooif vision zero improvements and other infrastructure encroachments weve used the consultants to prepare the documents on were completing that environmental document in anticipation by the summer and lombard vision zero were helping the department of public works in terms of other vision zero improvements in into boo of those involve caltrans for the support of caltrans and that project also is at a point to move into construction later this year and other projects were prepared to move forward with that project and work with sf dpw once the real estate documents are as i understand by the railroad were waiting to start our Due Diligence in that regard and some of the other Major Projects the brt started the 300 million of work we were the Community Working with sfmta for the approvals for the state of california through the brt and just president elect the ceqa documentation that that and ready to assist in terms of design as that project move forward the vision zero ramps were not clear sure youre clear port of planning and the project development the areas with the freeways touch on the city streets are the areas were focusing on in the planning staple for it that and also listed the central subway that is phase three and prepared to assist us at the mta as we moved in the development lets talk about the procurement details we issued an r f q, 43 qualification statements we did Something Different than in the past the unbundled types of expertise we need ill show you a slide that shows up up to many major categories there it is a list of a lot of types of expertise in particular the areas that are new for example, publicprivate partnerships and asking for expertise to help the city moved on some of the major Capital Projects moving forward within a laundry list of consultants we can use on on call basis for the program lets talk about the task orders process we basically will go issue the task orders for a given project or given assignment well go ahead and establish a goal for each of those typically between 10 and 25 happy to report over the last 4 years weve been reaching close to 50 percent for the lbe and well move to be as aggressive as possible part of ununbelievably thought process we can go ahead and get more support for the soliciting and working with the Small Business community the list of is expansive we have to make sure we look at availability for performance and one thing the conflict of interests a lot of the consultants are working under the contracts with different departments or developers and want to make sure there is no conflict of interest we can negotiate the best cost fees. We dont duo have been an expansive list and short listed various firms under the categories and basically 65 percent of diaphragms or dbe or lbe several given the expertise im here to ask for in the amount not to exceed 6 million with two one year options at the boards discretion that concludes my presentation. Thank you for your presentation. Two things i want to bring to your attention. Sure. So consultants will be organizing large projects; right . We established that talking about Yerba Buena Island and i think a 98 million the project im interested in that we established from the connection ive been in the meeting like im sure you have been i want to make that bridge as beautiful as possible and make sure that it is more than just a fungal bridge connecting from one point to another it is incorporated into the community that it is aesthetically pleasing maybe i dont have my other details other than i want beautiful it is the beauty is in the eyes of the Budget Committee holder but plant that seed were any exceptions are not something that is a swlab about that is functional but have aesthetic value that communicates the culture of the neighborhood that the gwyneth street the bridge well have limited ability but something that is powerful a piece we have a lot of development happening in the Wastewater Treatment a 2. 9 million project and talking about the expansion of the produce mart in the area so this is really important connector and want to make sure that we give the aesthetic process just as much thought and discussion as we do for the other processes that will go into creating a bridge the other thing in our presentation i was happy to hear that youll be breaking down the project to assure that women of businesses and veterans and, etc. Veterans their all the able to make a proposal and compete for this work did i understand that correctly. Thats correct. Do we have goals in terms of percentages in place. Typically between the 10 to 25 percent it is predicted on the actual scope of work performed in particular with the federal funding there certain regulations and criteria that you meet in terms of Going Forward and establishing what the goal well do that on a task order by task order. Ms. Tilly chang ill flag this for you you dont have to speak as the leader of ta youve done a great job in bringing in departments and big deal left out er not engaging in this case an incredible amount of money we should be supporting Small Businesses and in that community ill flag that for you thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Commissioner yee. Thank you in regards to the list that youre providing. Yes. Of those 28 or 29 companies is this a list that had been revised or just want every so often or is this like whats the period of this list for 50 years. It will be right now, were proposing a 3 year list in essence to use this list as the call it for consulting efforts and then after the end of the third year two, one year options so after the end of the third year well come to the board and request a one year extension and after that another so a total of 5 maximum. Okay. Maybe ill buy into the 3 years. Ill say i have to make a good argument to extend that beyond the 3 years we dont want to close the doorkeepers that maybe wasnt ask qualified but a year or two developed bigger involved with other projects that can qualify to i think that is a mistake to limit it to this list for 5 years is there is built in report for this i mean what i would like to have an annually annual report utilizing this system that looks at which companies were allowed to bid on the projects and who got the contract which Company Received the contract that would be that would be helpful but you were saying that 60 percent of companies were minority or Small Businesses and i would hate to see a report where 1 3rd the other third gets all the contracts. Understood we can have all the data presented to you i have no problem. Thank you thank you for your presentations well go into Public Comment at this time thank you any Public Comment on this item . 5 please come on up thank you. Welcome. Good morning good afternoon my name is paul i wear a bunch of hates but hear as the chair of Public Policy for the Golden Gate Bridge the nations first lgbt chamber of commerce and have the honor of being the the president of the Small Business commission that represents 12 business organizations and commissioner cohen thank you for singling out before they were the first agency to reach out to lgbt taxpayers of the community so thank you and look forward to working with that i loved your comments about the kwent street bridge we have mr. Stevens will be happy to work with the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency on projects for the kwintd Street Project and so forth i think the things that was not mentioned the sfmta will with front yard to make a hard decision not afraid to say not enough minority and Small Business participation and unfortunately caltrans is not listed dont take the hard stand so thank you for making the hard decisions when not enough participants and thank you for the listed of Small Business providers thank you. Thank you for that reminder definitely to tilly and her staff. Come on up good to see you. Good morning my name is berry Councilmember Wesson he own transamerica engineers we do our math and a resident i want to speak in support of this item our company has been working on that offramp projects for years and been a boon to our company we started this project we have 3 people now up to 10 and maybe hiring two or three more and getting the work all over the place that project was a goal so i really enjoyed working ive worked on the list in the back primarily with carson with the its been a dream to work for we have a mentor relationship through caltrans and weve also had a contract with dw m h weve been at the project and picked up two more projects and we expanded to the airport to the south bay the whole situation is great and this man has made himself assessable to people down the informed chain thank you. Thank you very much. Is there any additional Public Comment seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Thank you very much mr. Pierce we appreciate good positive to balance out the negative stuff we here really good so ms. Chang congratulations youre doing really good you and the entire team so lets this is an action item colleagues a motion for this particular item . Like a make a motion with a positive recommendation with a positive recommendation and the house has changed a roll call vote think outside the box commissioner cohen commissioner fewer commissioner kim commissioner ronen commissioner yee item is approved unanimously call item 6 recommend to borrow you up to 46 million plus to a coinvited one and 40 million from the Credit Agreement with the Lending Corporation an action item we have cynthia fong good afternoon you should have a power point presentation before you to help us to go through the pages youll start off with introducing myself cynthia and start give you a little bit of background on page 2 the prop k Strategic Plan let me remind you that the strategy is a financial tool that guides the implementations of thirty year plan and reconciles the planning the sales tax for the state and federal and the costs with acceleration and timing the Strategic Plan Guiding Principles are listed on the prerj presentation we use them to assure the plans that we send for the prop k project moving on to page 3 since 2004 the sfmta has managed the cash needs of the in case sales tax with a short time plan that was established step outside the box years ago we did this method because slower than moumsz for reimbursement weve been companionship monitoring the various projects weve allocated and with the amendments approved as scheduled as the sponsors indicated to us that their project was not moving as fast we had anticipated issuing a long term bonds 10 years ago but maintained the Paper Program for 10 years and saved money from the interest costs towards the bond and instead it has gone to more prop k projects then on page 4 singles 2015 you may remember this Committee Approved the commercial Paper Program we had a 20 million and replaced with the tax exempt revolving agreement a loan with the commercial bank we had requested one and 40 million loan and currently have the 4 outstanding so we are paying every year with tax revenue to decrease that balance and now Outstanding Balance of 46 million we can draw for future prop k projects our strategy is to use the condition to meet the cash shortterm needs for the cash bonds and schizophrenia advance the funds for those and minimizing and chosen a resolve that costs less than the commercial Paper Program lets talk about in terms of 20162017 Capital Project costs of fiscal year 78 budget assumes 200 million in prop k Capital Expenditures what was approved by the board 25 million and revolving credit loan im here four asking for an additional 46 and currently at the end of january we had 41. 9 of First Quarter expenditures 3 came from reimbursements from the sponsor and typically we ramp up and it was noticed the trend of increase thats why we put the 25 initially on the fiscal year 20162017 budget now we are monitored overseeing anticipating the increase in the expenditures the major prop k cash flow drivers are projects that are in major milestones triggering larger reimbursement requests because of recent completion of other milestones that trigger the requests projects and speaking of our sfmta radio replacement project associated with the interim controls project and purchases of the motor coaches trollies and light rails on page 7 there is actually a nice chart here it sums up what is 5 separate projects will could get for prop k you reimbursement on the left column we see the total prop k allocations were 371 million as of january we had a possibility of up to 260 million balance for the projects and just in the fiscal year 20172018 cash flow the sponsors for the new projects come in for 103 million in reimbursement but we dont anticipate that all coming in at one time more so in a number of years our page 8 also is a nice chart that shows you the number of plans ordered and in Service Vehicles for motorist and light rail and prarlt were able to see the reimbursements for the requests for support. Now in terms of next steps speaking for a request to pull down the additional 46 million in the revolving Credit Agreement right now we have 25 million in budget we may not need all 46 but at the point wise to make that request to request that money when those reimbursements come in we are continuing to monitor those projects and the cash needs awhile speaking to our sponsors and reviewing and having meeting on an ongoing basis well return back to the board for approval to issue any bonds and with any progress we have throughout the rest of most and then in june youll see the fiscal year 20172018 budget which may have and most likely has an issuance of a bonds in approximately 350 million for the next fiscal year for prop k with that, answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your presentation. Colleagues i dont see my names on the roster any questions. Commissioner. Thank you very much. Handcuff. Just to recap is that we have the ability to borrow up to one and 40 million on the agreements a as far we have borrowed 95 million and your requesting today to max it out to one and 40 Million Dollars ; right . That was to be the 46 million youre asking for in order to retire add up this revolving Credit Agreement you must issue a bond in the future for three hundred and roadway at this moment not that number but report in the next couple of months were gaming between 30,350,000,000 well come back to the committee the board to give an update of the needs for the bonds. So approximately 350 million that is 350 million bond youre thinking of putting on and one and 40 million of it will go to pay this revolving credit note this is the bond would be an institution to our debt of one and 40 million am i hearing that correctly. Well be pga down the outstanding one and 40 million on a sales tax or issue a new bond to pay that off the old bond in addition to the new projects. So the 350 million bond youre talking about now is not to pay off this debt and then the one and 20 million will be outstanding. In addition to the bond but youre not issue the bond in order to do that; is that correct. One of the possibilities we not defined it until the 20162017 mid year budgeted in addition to Work Together the sponsors with the 20172018 budget. I think the concern i had was that we are. Cu august debt if we look at a bond with one and 50 million that will get more and more and more and more debt if we are relying on a sales tax to rectify that it may not happen so ill wondering about this debt and this resolving credit and i want to say about how these Credit Agreements are paid off or interest over time but im just concerned about this interest. Cu a massive debt again in the fiscal year. Noted well definitely bring that back and allow the committee to weigh them out. Thank you. Thank you please yes and come on. Tilly chang thank you for your questions commissioner fewer u commissioner fewer want to make that clear our plan to pay down the original revolver line of credit we saved 20 by moving to the revolver that is associated with the Capital Improvements and we continue to pay off the current sales tax dollars now the funds being requested in terms of increasing up other max of the revolver those are new Capital Improvement and new expenditures i want to be clear from a finance stream that makes sense to up size that to pay down some of the revolver in other words, to reasons to have the responsibility of freeing up that for a shortterm capacity not because we dont have a way to pay it off our plan to pay off the debt and new borrowing will have new Capital Improvement that said cynthia is correct were looking at different scenarios to up size the bond borrowing to help pay off and create room in the revolver gives a short time basis pretty favorable to the short time interest to have that capacity from a Financial Strategy standpoint it nice to have we want to look at that scenario but not the main reason for borrowing the main reason to take out financing for new Capital Improvements it seems like when we have the opportunity to borrow money with the flexibility also in the revolving credit when i met you w you yesterday, i got the impression that was money that can be assessed quickly. Correct. We due pay it down well not have the flexibility. Speaking to the exact. Thats why yeah, im glad you spoken to that im thinking about that too. Not only is the debt increasing well not have the flexibility as a tool youve been youre going since 95 million. A large sum of money. Youll have a moments notice if you dont pay that down rarely is it easy to assess funds with that flexibility unless you have an account like this or a favorable amount you can withdraw from. Yep thank you so much. Thank you. Lets go to Public Comment come down. I would like to echo eileen district 4 form cac member like to echo commissioner president loftus commissioner fewers about the debt over legend and the ct a relies on the staircase if there is an economic downturn fewer sales tax perhaps significantly less and borrow further i would have concerns about that the same as commissioner fewer does thank you. Thank you for weighing in is there anyone from the public that wishes to speak seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Thank you. All right. So this is an action item is there a motion . So moved. Without objection. Please call next item, please. Introduction of new items. Claergsz my new items take Public Comment Public Comment is closed. Item 8 general Public Comment. Yes. Thank you good morning andrew yip the person of a nation and the people by having peace of wellness for corporations in all sixpacks the working foyers we must rely for assistance to promote the wellness for those of Civil Servants and people nationalism and democracy and livelihood we must have a twoway channel so bodies can be heard a discussion platform for ideas as it requires the actualtion of holiness and try principle will make the people successful that will be of all aspects of origin the wisdom for holy generations for society thank you. Thank you anyone else that wants to speak all right. 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The regular meeting for wednesday, february, 15th, 2017, i would like to remind the members of the p you believe that we do not tolerate any disruption and please silence your mobile devices and when speaking before the commission, state your name for the record. I would like to take the roll at this time. First on the agenda, it is general Public Comment, within the subject matter description, with respect to agenda items it will be afforded when it is reached, each member may address the commission for up to three minutes,vy no speaker cards. Does any member like to speak on a nonagenda items. Seeing and hearing none we will close comment. That will place us under the department matters, directors announcements. Mr. Fry is not here at the moment, so maybe we will reopen that later. Sure. We will move on to commission matters. Yes. Very good, commission matters item three, president s report and announcements. Item four, consider of adoption for the minutes arc july, 20, and the draft minutes of hpc february first, 2017 hearing. Commissioners anything for comments . All that i have to dredge my memory. We transscribed the comment letter from the staff on to here and we are probably waiting for that. I thought that was mine. Okay. Does any member of the public wish to comment on the draft Meeting Minutes on wednesday, july twenth for the review committee or february first, for regular hearing . Do i have a motion to adopt the minutes . Motion to adopt . Second. Thank you, commissioners on that motion to adopt the minutes to the july, 20th, and the regular hearing for february first, 2017. Commissioner haus . Yes, johns, yes. Matsuda, yes. Highland. Yes. And we move the commissioners passes seven to zero. Xh is that will place us under item five, Commission Members and questions. I i