The meeting time is this meeting is being televised soon to be live tonight and the Small Business commission thanks sf govtv staff for televising this meeting. Please turn off your devices. The Public Comment during the meeting is limited to 3 minutes per speaker. Speakers are requested but not required. Completion of a speaker card while optional will help ensure proper spelling of speakers name of the meeting. Applies fill out speaker cards before approaching. Additionally there is a sign in sheet to be added to the mailing list. Mr. President , i will start with item no. 1. Its call to order and roll call. Commissioner adams, here, commissioner dooley, commissioner dwight, here, commissioner ortiz cartagena and commissioner white and commissioner riley is absent. Mr. President you have a quorum. Shall we move to item no. 2. General Public Comment lets do it. General Public Comment allows the public to comment on matters on todays purview and not on the agenda and for future consideration. Do we have any members of the public that would like to have Public Comment or anything that is not on todays agenda . So, if you will just, public speaker im gail ball an vicepresident of the Hayes Valley Merchants Association and we oppose the goes at the district that bans retail. I will forward our argument to the commission for their review instead focusing on brick and Mortar Stores for their store count. There is definitely room for another interpretation of formula retail to meet maximum. I will be happy to discuss with them. Thats not why i am here. Which leaves me why im here before you. I want to strongly recommend this commission can view this commission can protect themselves to compete with larger more well funded corporations that want to move into San Franciscos district Financing Options to ban formula retailers. Here is the current situation. The planning departments current procedure to fill and title space does not fill the component of the community outreach. Particularly the district where formula retail is banned. In the same Way Developers is required to reach out to the community as they build their projects. 2, there are an estimated 150 commercial spaces coming into the market octavia plan and you can add to the bayview, the south of market area where they are going to be tremendous numbers of commercial spaces coming that need to be filled. This formula retail ban will continue to come under increasing pressure for the Housing Units that are coming into the surrounding areas. Developers put will it thought into the type of retail and put in larger spaces of 2025 for their usual space size. Commercial brokers have little interest in the needs of neighborhoods preferring to large spaces on affordable smaller business. In large transitional corporations that higher rents than the smaller business that continue to remain there. I have some suggestions for your commission to consider for its future planning. We have already recommended to the Zoning Administrator for its planning approval process of a retailer filling an entitle rethailand retailed space for current merchants and neighbors in a similar method that is required for developers in new buildings. Developers of new spaces and also for remodeling requiring developers to buildout spaces that are small are. Smaller. I call it micro retail. Most importantly commercial brokers require you to go for this communication. We have to end your presentation. However, i will say thank you very much. We are quite familiar with the case that you are referring to and it regrettably met a procedural requirement and so there is certainly some discussion of whether that original application was in good faith or not knowing they had an expansion beyond our formula retail limits probably already planned. That being said, this formula retail current legislation is quite concise and in fact we specifically made it that way so that there would be very objective rules. And here we have a case that has met the objective rules of engagement. If you have selections we would be delighted to hear them and the purpose is to put things on the agenda for the future so you have time to talk. I would not make the complete case but the appeal to hear it. We are always interested in issues regarding formula retail. If there are ways that we can augment the current legislation and we can get a sponsor for that, we are happy to hear that. We would be delighted to have you submit your suggestions to us for a meeting in the future to have an appropriate amount of time. Got it. This is appropriate to bring it up. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Any other Public Comment, anything that is not on todays agenda. Thanks for coming out today, by the way, and please let us know specifically if you would like us to agendaize a more detailed presentation. What might be good, for your written comments if there is anything you would like to expand on it, forward it to me so i can forward to the commissioners to yeah, we dont mean to be abrupt, its a matter of procedure. Thank you. Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Lets move on. The next item is item no. 3, approval of the august 24, 2015, regular minutes. I motion to approve the minutes of the august 24th, meeting. Anyone want to second that . Second. All right. City clerk motion by commissioner adams, second by commissioner white. And shall we do an all in favor say, aye. Aye. Any opposed . Lets move to item 4. City clerk discussion and possible action to make recommendations to the board of supervisors on file no. 150758 public works code, public rightofway occupancy fee exemption. This is a discussion and possible action. This is an ordinance amending the public works code to provide that flood Water Management project that are located within the public rightofway requiring minor encroachment to the San FranciscoPublic UtilitiesCommission Grant rightofway occupancy fee. We have a presentation by carolyn goesen legislative aid to supervisor campos. Welcome. Thank you commissioners for having me here today and thank you, gina, as well. The legislation before you is essentially to help Small Business and residents in the folsom area, the lowest part of our city and therefore experiences the worst flooding. Specifically the legislation amends the public works code that amended to the grant that will not charge this public rightofway occupancy fee. To give you a little background, campos has a hearing as we have issues for major Small Businesses and other residents. Out of that hearing a working group formed local businesses and mga of infrastructure is going to be speak here if thats okay as part of our presentation have been working together for many months to find a way to addressing this persistent flooding problem. Two ideas have come out of this working Group Already that we are working forward with and one is to fund the program to encourage Property Owners to install improvements on properties that lower the risk of harm caused by flooding and originally only types of projects could be covered and the puc has been great of working with Small Business owners and residents to make sure the project has helped them instead of them trying to fix their properties in the specific confines of the original grant. So thats been happening and residents and Small Businesses are very happy about that and second to wave the fees if the projects involved a minor encroachment. Thats what our minor legislation is doing and essentially exempting these fees will make it easier for Small Businesses to apply for the Grant Program if they know there will be no fees related and will also further the incentive provided by the Grant Program to encourage Property Owners to lower their risk of harm. Already i know for example there was one Small Business owner who he had applied that he had to pay a fee initially. He was told he had to pay a fee. In fact his case, the water over the years had pressed this sidewalk lower than what had been an he was restoring it to the level of the sidewalk had been and because he changed the sidewalk it would have forced him to pay the puc. So the puc worked with him and had to do a lot of paperwork to get the bureaucracy changed so we are trying to avoid having to did that. If you are getting that grant money, that fee is waved. Thank you very much. And we would love to have kathy speak briefly to that. They have been wonderful in helping our community. Thank you. Good afternoon commissioners. The puc just to give you an example of what happened in that situation as the sidewalk did settle and it settled an the Small Business owner raised the sidewalk and he was assessed a fee of about 2500 which he would have to pay into perpetuity as long as he owned that property. So we worked with dpw to see if he could look at the situation because they had looked at it narrowly as raising the slope so we said its not a curb ramp at an intersection and so they reassessed it and they are still having to reassess the fees of a minimum amount of 100 because he had a gate that opened onto the sidewalk. So what this legislation would do is if someone put a movable barrier that was attached to their home, if it per intruded over the sidewalk they would face an encroachment fee and they would still be applying for a permit. Okay. Sounds reasonable. I know they are really trying especially with this winter everybody is trying to get ready for this. This is a very good piece of legislation. So i really appreciate everything that the supervisor is doing in this area neighborhood. Commissioner white . Yes, i believe i heard it. The c assessment is 100 that would be waved or is it different . Under the current code the minimum they would assess is 100 but that could go way up depending on the improvements and how far is the encroachment. If they base the sidewalk back to its original to where it was raised. That particular owner had to pay about 2500 in fees. And he would have to pay that annually every year. Finds it in the provision there is no provision currently to allow the waiver. Correct. This is to allow a waiver subject to review . Yes. Commissioners, to the present example with the Small Business legislation that we do for the sidewalk permit temporary occupancy, the departments have to account for the number of permits they issue and the revenue that comes in, right . So they need legislation to account for the fact that they have not collected revenue for the permits. So another example is that supervisor tang annually had been doing the awning replacement and they did that in may so they wouldnt have to do that every year. Generally the legislature avoids the response, we just cant do that. So commissioner, sarkissian . I just want to confer. When you talk about Property Owners, are we talking the leased owner. You talked about the Property Owner as well as the business . It could be, it has to be the Property Owner, so the Business Owner could be just the renter. It would benefit the renter because it gives the Property Owner the incentive to apply for the grant. Right now, if they have a residenter, renter. The Business Owner has to get the Property Owner to apply for the grant. But the Property Owner wont apply for the grant if they have to jump through as you of these hoops. The Business Owner cannot apply for these initiatives . Not unless they make the improvements to the property. If the Property Owner was the business of the property. Thats why it was confusing to me. That particular case it would also be the owner. That legislation refers to Property Owners. Yes. Thank you, any other questions or comments, commissioners . Great. Seeing none, well open to Public Comment. Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. We have an action item here if we choose to support this. I have a motion to approve this. This is a very good piece of legislation and i think it will help with Property Owners in that neighborhood and not only that neighborhood but other neighborhoods too that will definitely benefit from this piece of legislation and get this stuff done. I totally support this. I second the supporting of this legislation. Okay. Can we have a roll call vote. City clerk commissioner adams, yes, commissioner dwight, yes, commissioner sarkissian . Yes, commissioner white . Yes. That motion passes with approval to recommend to the board of supervisors to approve file 150758. 40. Thank you very much. Its a success. Its happy hour time now. All right. Moving on to next item. Item no. 5. Presentation discussion on the Small BusinessCommission Meeting schedule to facilitate legacy business registry program. I thought it was appropriate for us to have a discussion around the meeting schedule prior to for whats currently in place. There is no criteria as to the number of legacy Business Applications that you are required to hear so the meetings can be scheduled as the commissions seen fit and the schedule. I just wanted to give a little bit of perspective that should the ballot measure pass, the commission would be obligated to hear a minimum of 300 applications a year. This roughly divides out by 12 to 52 applications a month. A safe proclamation for each year would be 25 minutes in terms of the business providing the presentation commission asking questions and providing comments and any Public Comment and for the commission to make its final determination. So that average about 8 hours hearing time each no. It month. It gives you the idea considering that and using that towards a metric. Did i do that incorrectly . 25. Thats still ten hours10 hours okay. So 25 a month. So thank you for that correction. So the City Attorney has confirmed, just being respectful of the meeting time and hearing concerns about adding on an additional meeting time which maybe something that may have to be considered down the road, but currently in terms of we can soon start taking applications. There is nothing preventing us from taking applications once the application is set and we can get it up and going on the website. So the City Attorney has confirmed that the Commission President can establish the committee to the initial hearing. Then but the final approval or disapproval to take place at the full commission and you would still have to hear, you would still have to allow for Public Comment to take place. So unlike the board of supervisors where there are Committee Meetings where Public Comment takes place, but at the full board, Public Comment cannot take place with items that are heard at the full board. That is only allowed at the full board of supervisors. We would still have to allow for Public Comment, but the key amount, the large amount of the time taken for each hearing could possibly take place in a Committee Setting and then it would be to the discretion of the president to determine who is on the committee and perhaps Committee Members can rotate over time to vet applications and kind of sort of relieve some of the requirement of the additional meeting time. So currently right now before brians departure, he checked in with our Building Management and if to simplify it and we did meetings with our regular schedule, there is no limit to the amount of time that the commission can stay here in a meeting after 5 30. Thats awesome. I love it. But the commission can start its meeting at 3 30. So from 3 30 to 5 30. There is some flexibility there. And to have some on the front end and back end. This is facilitating. Once we start to receive enough on the application, this is to facilitate the current law right now. Then for the Fourth Meeting of the month, 4 00 is technically our cutoff time because the Ethics Commission meets after us here in room 400. But we can start the meetings as early as 11 30 on the fourth monday of the month and there is also available meeting time for on friday. And we would just need, if the commission is amenable to friday meeting we would just need to let the Building Management know if we want a two our block, 3hour block or 4hour block and they will let us know if something is available and i can get back to you on that. So, feedback thoughts we dont have to do anything to sent it to. So my comment is good to know that we have flexibility. I would say we wait and see attitude because we do not need all of those 8 hours. Im sure steve will be happy to chair that committee. I have a question. Is there a deadline submittal on this . Im going to finalize the application and make the modifications made to simplify the application. I would like to have that finalized by the end of the week. There are supervisors very anxious to start making their nominations. Thats fine. Their registration. Thats fine. So i would say that there are supervisors that are that have nominees that they would like to get submitted and get to the commission before the hearing. I think we have the flexibility to respond to the application. I have a question about the timing assuming that your application is finalized. It is submitted and publicized so to speak. What is your vision about these applications coming back before the elections. Is that going to happen in october . Is this activity before the legislation is voted on . The thing is that in the original legislation it did state kind of a september 30th time for a delivery of implementation of the program as to what was passed by the board of supervisors. With that the schedule is predicated on when an applicant application is completed and we are able to get it to you in time for review and agendaized. My other question is assuming that this legislation new legislation passes circulate a mooting or does it affect the application that we have submitted prior to that date . No. So these applications would be filed and eventually we would get to them and depending on the number of applications you decide how to spread that. Yeah. And we actually, the office of Small Business has the is ultimately blesses it as a legacy business or not or does the board of supervisors do that . Again, the procedure is that and the procedure that we are going to follow at this particular point in time as we discussed at the last meeting because of staffing is that right now the office will only facilitate the application, the registration application with businesses that have been nominated by the mayor or board of supervisors. Right. They get nominated and they submit their application, we the commission, who blesses . You bless. There you go. We finally have something that we get to bless. The Small Business commission makes the determination as to whether the business meets the criteria. We are graduating from an advisory body to a Decision Making body. How about that . As i say we have plenty of runway to determine how we need to respond to this based on the response we get in terms of nominations. Correct. But it would be good in case there is an indication or an i hear from Building Management that we might need to sort of put some reserve on. Some direction from the commission. In terms of preference. I would recommend that we plan a back end to this meeting because i think its clearly a challenge for all of us to get here at this meeting time and making it earlier is going to make it more challenging and we are all with these Small Business owners themselves and its a struggle to do that. If we just make and we are unlike to have any conflicts for this space after our meeting. Correct. It would be pretty gone after we are done. That gives us the greatest flexibility if it maybe perhaps the most onerous time slot. Well deal with it as it comes. All right. Great. Thank you for that discussion, commissioners. Then just behind the meeting is i want to highlight through some additional discussion with on page 2, just to make it a little easier to read i have sectioned out some of the criteria section for the businesses to follow and that follows the criteria set out in the legislation. And then on page 4 of the official application, adding a section that list who the nominee is and a signature of the nominee. And that is, those are really the only essential changes. This is online . I am working to get it to be a fillable pdf. This is a document. We officially cannot do that. That is one of the projects that jane is working on with the office of Contract Administration to do online signatures. So for now you can fill it out online and print it out and sign it. Yes. And regardless for section 3 they do need to do a more expanded narrative and so, and then of course submit any sort of you know supplemental documents or memorabilia. Okay. Sounds good. All right. Was there a question . I think there is no further action required. There is no action required. All right. Lets move on. Directors report. City clerk item no. 6 is directors report. Update on Small BusinessAssistance Center and the 2016 calendar. So just to highlight. I have mentioned it a couple times but i have not done a written report in a couple meetings. I wanted to reconfirm the week of Small Business week for 2016, and that is may 2328. So tomorrow night at the council of district merchants meeting i will make an announcement requesting the Merchants Association about making may 21 or may 28. Where is that meeting . Its at the dates are correct. The year is not correct. Okay. So, the shop and dime by local campaign, commissioner dwight has been involved with these meetings and i will let you expand upon that under your president s report. I just have it on here because it will be something that come the holidays will be program an initiative that will be launched. And im currently not participating in the meetings. We have president dwight there and oewd is leading the initiative. So there is plenty of things for other things to be doing. The el nino. The city has started to have meetings to discuss preparation. I just wanted to bring it to your attention in case you would like to have a presentation from the city, from the department of Emergency Management and the department of Public Utilities commission and what they are anticipating and what are they planning for and is there any outreach to businesses especially those that have subbasements in flood zone areas about what they can be doing, what to prepare for. So, since it is starting to a topic of discussion. In the media i wanted to bring back to your attention in case you want to bring back a presentation so i can prepare for that. I would just think its all about flood response, right . So do we need a formal presentation on this . Okay. And then i just wanted to next bring to your attention that we did not have a retreat last year. So do you want to think about having another retreat coming up for 2016. Ideally would like to schedule it before the end of the year if possible. But well be taking a look at schedules. But i have some hietd items in terms of what our priority items that are already part of the commission and the offices responsibilities. Just to give some thought. So, i will be meeting with the president , vicepresident and our past president to take a look at this and start scheduling and preparing for a retreat. Okay. We can consider that. Legislation and policy matters. So supervisor farrell ended up going ahead and moving his original legislation did not include the recommendations that the commission had recommended due to timing reasons. So that at last tuesdays full commission, full board of supervisors meeting it passed its first reading. So jess and i will discuss what to do with the next recommendation. The paid sick leave, ochllsc is putting a more refined rfq for the state and the local. There is some delay in getting the faqs completed. But it is due to some information from the state and determinations that they are making based upon the last set of amendments that were made to the law. So, we are hopeful that there will be able to have a presentation to you in the next 3 weeks, perhaps. But again waiting for the state for some final information. I wanted to, i had an interesting call from a merchant on divisadero who has long hours. As we know many of our Service Sectors are living outside of the city and having them come to work with very early hours or have very late hours and dealing with the reliability of our San Francisco transit, bay area transit and or the amount of time it takes to travel, they are driving into work. Up until recently there wasnt an issue about parking because there wasnt much residential permitted parking in that area, but recently both around alamo square and panhandle parking this has created a parking problem. This has created problems for employees because people that are driving they are having to ietsd move their car every 2 hours so its affecting scheduling breaks, causing stress and a ticket you know is 75. So thats a big chunk of change for an employees daily wage. Currently with the residential parking permit, a business sits on a neighborhood commercial corridor that is in a residential parking permitted area. That business is able to have up to three permits for their working vehicles so their delivery vehicles. So i did reach out to the sf mta and they are actually under, they had actually had this slated to start looking at the redevelopment permit and they are advised the office to be a part of this and will be working to bring in some businesses to be part of this but i want to bring it to your attention because i think to me this is very much at the time and many businesses are going to be facing with their employees and more its a cost of housing continues to go up more and more will be moving outside of the city. The sf mta as to acknowledge the only practical solution is to improve Public Transportation. There is no parking and there is an act to reduce parking. There is no way there. There are no parking places. So we have to facilitate people getting to work by Public Transportation. Its all there is. There is no other solution. We dont need to waste a bunch of time on moderating rpp because the residents have as much right to park there as much as the businesses. This city has to get Public Transportation to accommodate the needs of both residents and the employers. There is no resolution. We can talk about it all we want. And i think, you can make it fou hours, it will make it half as bad. I think there is there is shortterm and longterm because we can deal with our own transportation and deal with sf mta because the intersection, its not just bart, its am tram, the transportation in the outer area as well. So it has to really be looked at regionally. Im just bringing this to your attention because i think this is a pressure that businesses are going to feel and exactly what the Small Business commission you know does with this information that you may not yet determine but there may be some policy direction that you may y want to provide. There is an appeal that we can make with the city improve its Transportation System and that we have a reasonableal plan that improves the mobility of people inter city. We should look at immediate solutions. So this seems to be kind of an remedial solution to these areas. At least try to fulfill their needs and then make a policy and statement in general. I tell all of my employees to adjust our schedule. I cant stand it when i hear someone who got a ticket who if they are making minimum wage. A 75 ticket black and white oh black bliterates what you made. You cant buy lunch in San Francisco for 5. If you got a ticket everyday, that aint going to work. Right, for our Retail Businesses its not possible to leave the floor when you have customers standing in line to move the car. Actually when its difficult to man those positions you have two people on the floor so 1 person can watch while the other person moves their car. We cant have people running outside every 2 hours to move their cars and turn off the factory its absurd. Business owners will have to be adaptable to allow their employees to deal with the inadequacy of Public Transportation and the employees will have to do their part to compensate for that. Sorry, but there is no two ways about it. I dont see any shortterm or remediation to this frankly. We are going to talk about it until we are blue in the face. There is longterm solution and shortterm solutions are going to be accommodations by employers and the employees and your 8hour day is now a 10hour day and you spend an hour on either end commuting. Thank you for that discussion. Then i just want to also bring to your attention that if im getting a few calls or similar calls from businesses. So recently i did receive two calls regarding coverage for businesses that are having to close while the retrofitting work is taking place. So fortunately the landlord is not, they are closing, fortunate for them the landlord is still going to continue to lease to them, but the unfortunate element is that they are having to close their business for 3 4 months to do it. So, just they called to check to see if there is any sort of resources or assistance that was thought about for businesses for having to close. So and the answer is no . There was nothing planned. They would not be paying rent . Likely not. If they are employees. They have to pay the store. And you know hopefully some businesses will have Business Interruption insurance that they maybe able to rely on but not all may. And then i just provided a list of some future presentations that will be ahead. And then that we will be receiving the super bowl presentation from jason tremu at the next meeting. And then a list, a calendar list looking at 2016 meeting schedule. I have it here. Just for your information. May because of Small Business week we will be canceling that meeting and it will be to your discretion as to whether as we get closer to have a meeting on may 30th or just the one meeting a month. Okay. Awesome. Is that it . Then lastly, i want to mention that i did attend a Panel Presentation to discuss minimum wage and other employer mandates at people wear and apparel Manufacturing Organization and it was a very interesting discussion regarding workforce. And dealing with the local and regional issues and as you are acutely aware of commissioner white about the reduction of manufacturers in San Francisco and also it was an opportunity to sort of begin to have some discussion about Property Owner ship as well. So i think that will be a program that we can develop through the legacy business as an initiative but i think Property Owner ship in general will be a good program whether there is anything behind it other than just packaging the how to will be something that will be a benefit to our businesses. The best form of rent control. So that concludes my report. Okay. Thank you. Item no. 7 is president s report. I only have to report as you mentioned that i do attend the shop local meeting which is the collaboration between oewb and the chamber of commerce and its focused primarily presently on kind of a business to consumer more specifically retailer to consumer communication effort and an attempt to garner some fund to Campaign Around the holidays. Its not clear where that money is going to come from. On the business side there is a meeting or sort of a meet and greet planned as promised. Thats being organizeded by the chamber of commerce on october 22 nd and they are looking for a venue and asking me what recommendations i have for 80120 people. Im in big time in favor of that. Other than it was a quiet month with everyone on recess. City clerk item nor 8. Vicepresident s report. Nothing to report. Commissioners, got any reports . No. Nothing to report. No demerits for having no reports. Item 10. New business. None. Seeing none. All right. Commissioners we are now onto item november 11th. Adjournment. Here it comes. I motion to adjourn. Second that. All in favor say, aye. Aye. Any opposed . We are adjourned at 6 25. [ meeting is adjourned ] i think it aes public and private property. Im against graffiti. Who can get it out the most who can be noticed the most. I ive seen seniors doing graffiti. The city is art, other people who have their names tag [inaudible] our unit there are 2 sections we are doing one is abating and others are notice of violation to private property. All the utility boxes in public rightofway we abate. We abate calls that come within 48 hours. We are a small group in g f graffiti. We dont have enough help. I have a group in town down and china town and the north tunnel. [inaudible] the graffiti we abate everything is coming up to the areas now. Im willing to take it on. I think you are telling me you are ready for this . I think so. Okay. There you go. All right. All right. Ready to do it. Lets go. Want to get the gray signses this over here and the garbage can and normally we dont do private property since its on the corridor route you can come with me we will use black. We had a lot of changes in the graffiti unit. We do private property if someone moved we remove it and send it to the Attorneys Office and they take appropriate action. Damage their property there. Its important to write the color in case they want to say what part of our house you abated the graffiti on. Using your safety glasses the gloves. You got it. You know some places we gashi, people appreciate that. You know, a lot of timeses they say, thank you. The time where its visible. A lot of people put it on the ground. I like when tourists come and say, you do this for your city and you get paid for that . We use the [inaudible] for the holes and the retaining walls. [inaudible]. White on the fire hydrants. Fire box red for the fire boxes. Our brown for the pg and e poles. We are not painters we do our best. Im assuming it has to do with gang activity. If its territorial i mind. In case its gang related and they are marking our territory i would like to paint it over. Anything with numbers like x iv or x 13 west side mob and the bay view those are gang related. With gang related or profanity we will abait it as soon as possible. I consider it an art. There are circles of people that form around it whether or not they should ruin public property. This is art work im for it. Unless its on someones property and they dont want it there. Judge kids with silver paint expressing their ego needs doesnt belong on our property. Graffiti is when you dont have permission to write anything on their property. Eighth street is part of your regular rout . Yes. Everyday. Eighth street. Divisidero street. Irving street. Every block they going through they paint 3 or 4 streets in the block the poles the utility boxes, mailbox. Thank you. Okay. Put the drop cloth. Come on around. There you go. Force for we have to remember we are not painters we abate graffiti. We are abaters not painters. Get that out of the way and keep moving. How many of these do you do a day . How many poles we do a day . Yeah. Depends on the location. May be 20. Do you like working with the team . Yes because im a people person. I like being outside and interacting with the public and i like the response we get especially from the good job we do in the community. Goodbye