Transcripts For SFGTV Public Utilities Commission 61416 20160619

Call. Commissioner courtney commissioner caen commissioner moran and will we have quorum next item. Item 3 approval of the minutes of may 24, 2016, a motion to approval of the minutes. So moved second any questions or comments any Public Comment on item the minutes hearing none the minutes pass item 4 general Public Comment. Oh, thank you get a vote to approve minutes. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . The minutes Carry Forward next item is general Public Comment now the opportunity for Public Comment on matters not on the agenda today. Good afternoon. Eddy with bright line dws here to speak on two items not before in commission first, the strongest loophole hiring this is released by the office of office of Economic Workforce Development youre aware the local hiring by this the president has been very strong compared to other 5 contracting departments overall the city exceeded its mandated goal of thirty percent and most projects in the city on average up to 45 percent thats phenomenal so much youve seen press in the last week we pleaseer and no where is 12 apparent in the San Francisco board of education as you see in the handful ive provide originally the public works commitment was 35 percent year to year 35 percent 25 but under the thirty it jumped to 47 percent beyond the average target thank you to the department for its continued commitment to the segment to make sure those jobs are good paying jobs for the local community and the second is an update on the screen for bayview Hunters Point as before is not included in the napping that is age injustice in the environmental sense and the Socio Economic seasons and wed like the sfpuc to be engaged the legislation has encouraged cal to expedite its process in updating the tool and it will include the stated on a number of occasions Socio Economic factors and having any lens by this department lead to the building of a coalition of 8 coalitions in the letter i presented last time to make sure that over the summary as cal updates the tool the sfpuc can agendize this leadership in San Francisco as well doing the team david chiu and senator mark leno. Thank you congratulations on behalf of the local hiring numbers to the department for the general manager thank you so much for the commitment to local hiring for those great numbers were receiving appreciate that. Thank you. Any other general comments on matters not on the agenda hearing none, next item. Communication. Anything on communications questions or comments . Hearing none, next item. Item 6 other commission business. Commissioners. Hearing none, Public Comments on commission bizarre next item. Item 7 is report of general manager. Good afternoon commissioners i have the honor to recognize a couple of retirees which one day soon hopefully ill be amongst them laughter so the first one is a gentleman that worked at the oceanside plant actually had an opportunity to talks kindergarten can you come up . So hes retiring from the puc after 31 years of Service Began his service in the southeast plant and at oceanside for the last several years and he provides oversight to the wastewater at Treasure Island we will miss his positive spirit and professionalism actually, they said that they simply call you can do laughter i made that up laughter but mia anyway, we are really going to miss our service here and hopefully, you will come and visit us and i know weve talked about youll do a lot of traveling between travels if you can come back and tells you hi we would like to continue with you want to say a few words. Thank you very much everyone im not a good speaker but a good analyst so. So on behalf of the commission congratulate you and thank you for your many years of service and wish you best on your retirement a certificate we want to present to you if you, you can come up here. clapping. thank you. clapping. are there any Public Comments on this item hearing none, next item on the general manager report. The second retiree is a gentleman that actually, we go way back doctor toy can come up its kind of mixed mediations to see you go we start when i started he was sort of our mentor and so toy and i have a long history but toy has served as the executive director of the Southeast Community facility for the last 24 years toy was born in nigeria and came to this country in 1965 and moved into San Francisco in 1974 a recent he received a Academy Training in the Health Care Field and you know as we mentioned one of our mentors were alex pitcher and definitely provide us with a lot of training and you followed in his footprint and so i know that the community that you have been rep our Treatment Facility you have been really strut of us and thats a testimony of you working with the Southeast Commission to really help us fulfill a lot of the promises im really going to miss you and well stay if contact other offices we want you to continue to participate in as well ill let you talk about your daughter thank you for your service and if you want to say a few words. Thank you overhead please good afternoon, commissioners i sincerely thank you for honoring me today thank you for all you, you do i admires our tenet and presenter your support for ive been blessed to have represented our Facility Commission in this with the most devised committee in San Francisco and im proud to call Bayview District any community id like to give special attention to the executive director helen i consider a family friend in 1996 our daughter toy and opportunity to walk for the project and now shes an actors in la and won the 2016 end of the walk for the best late actress in la also want to thank the hard working San Francisco Public Utilities Commission Staff and thank you our general manager for wastewater enterprise and juliette as the manager for external affairs and the Community Manage for the education to the community and theyre ongoing financial logic support with my departure with the Commission Im leaving a solid staff who will continue to be dedicated to the community they are the Commission Secretary and eleanor herpes corridor with our newly hired executive director dionne we continue to working closely with sfpuc as a team for the benefit of bayview Hunters Point residents looets i want to thank my wife not here in new york of 36 years my executive director of the acts and the daughter isabel in washington and toy who is here and my son in brazil teaching and coming back many week and the medical doctor for allowing me to do the work i love and again, thank you for all your support youve given from the commission and giving me this honor i have the joy and look forward to working with sfpuc in the future good by and good luck and hello patience. So thank you very much and my daughter thank you for coming out from los angeles thank you. Thank you. clapping. on behalf of the commission we just want to appreciate you for all your work and thank you for all your hard work we very much appreciate that congratulations on your retirement please come up we have something for you. Thank you. By any Public Comment on this next item. General manager. So the next item is and just want only the drought steve richie. Steve richie providing the just want this is quite short of first item over the weekend hetch hetchy filled and confirm that commissioner moran is filled and good news and the water bank is 84 percent of capacity much better than it has been our precipitation has leveled out pretty much done tour the year with the rainstorm and the snow pack is basically it melted heavily in the last two weeks weve seen the runoff coming down from that that provides about 6 hundred and 22 thousand feet of water available to the city we needed 8 hundred plus to fill were shy of that which is a bit unfortunate 1922 why well call for commercialism but better than over the past several years on the total deliveries front we have had warm weather this year deliveries are a little bit above last years but see on the graph on the 5 year average line the red squares theyre a black line dash dot dash dot the new target that we set for ourselves from 2013 our demands with well blow the the fact of the matter we have to meet so folks are doing the same thats a good thing and lastly on drought actions we continue to call for the volunteery demand of 10 percent we as i said weve gone through the state water board process and not any state requirements levels for us we firmly believe that we need to achieve the 10 percent to fulfill the water bank and coming back to reduce the Optical Retail from thirty percent to 10 percent with an excess charge for the retail chars of mandatory 25 to a 10 percent with no fees charged it is different in the sf fee charge and working towards modifying the restrictions to incorporate in any statewide restrictions those are consistent nothing not doable on the list so with that, ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Commissioners . No questions at this time thank you very much any Public Comment on the drought update . Hearing none, next item. All right. Next item is an update for cleanpowersf barbara hale. Good afternoon barbara hale for power i have two items first a quick operations update, and, secondly, some information on our planning and effort for our august enrollment to in terms of operations weve began to receive payment from our customers that is good nice to see money coming in a small amount and proves our sidebars with pg e and Data Management and transfer fund that happening with notable is it so working well, this is good we have issued our third opt out notice out of the 4 that total that are required by statute the fourth notice is mailed in july were experiencing about a 1. 2 percent opt out out were well blow the 20 percent and happy to see a 3 percent in supergreen offering weve set out in december of last year was 5 percent so were doing pretty well on the supergreen uptake we so 4 hundred and 32 customers for the august enforcement that combination and the fact we had much lower opt out rates means if we stay on course and immoral 20 megawatts in the next phase as weve planned and experience the same opt out rate we expect to exceed a total of 50 megawatts unless we take a different approach weve run the numbers were assume before 5 to 10 percent opt out instead of the 10 and enroll the 20 megawatts weve serve a total of 55 or 56 megawatts full of customers im highlighting that when we started on this road we were talking about 50 megawatts thirty in the phase one and 20 in the second enrollment so our recommendation is to stay that course alm that weve had a lower opt out rate than expected and serve a total of 45 or 56 megawatts assuming the next set of customers have a similarly low opt out rate we propose to then move forward with testing the market for the renewable procurement well need to serve that total 55 or 56 megawatts and if we find affordable prices available supply then we propose to move forward and improperly act target 80 megawatts in the august enforcement enrollment and serve 56 as of november so with that, ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. And then. What happens from november on. Is he we are meanwhile making plans for subsequent phrases were also putting together our resource procurement plan that is required sorry our renewable procurement plan by the state of california and were going looking to have a Resource Planning work that helps us make sure that our programs for customers like rooftop solar and be able efficiency and our procurement put together a good package of resources for our customers compliant with state law thats the next larger planning document that will bring forward the phasing effort figuring out you know what the the right size for the next phase that is our first page capacity and what the counter parties will require of us when we go out to procure more supplies to serve overseeing additional fees of customers were doing more work on collecting the information for that now we have a bit find a track record seeing more community ago gas station programs and implemented than 2 more to serve the customers this year i think the marketplace is getting suppliers is getting more comfortable with the model and certainly the low opt out numbers were experiencing are encouraging from a financial picture. It sounds like good news commissioner moran. Ive been getting a lot of questions about the the incentive programs well be offering for solar rooftop solar and that would be great to have a 1 or twopackage document. Sure. For people that are concerned. Yeah. I know that you can ask for followup on supergreen and the go Solar Program and i think that last month at the end of the month whatever we had. One meeting so far and very good responses from folks good participation and have a followup meeting next week the week after and be able to bring represents to the general manager and then to the commission. On how to continue the integration of cleanpowersf and go solar sf. I guess that pg e still has a determination how much rooftop solar you can install; is that right. The expectation i believe this is in their transfer im not sure if it was bound by statute on this is that rooftop systems will serve will be sized to match the load behind the meter so there is an exception that youre not going to offer build the system if you at that particular time in a Net Metering Program if you participate in the program of selling the kilowatt hours and not consuming them the caps the sizes limitations are larger but they still exist. Okay smells in our interests to encourage people to put an amount of solar their rooftop can support and an aggressive feed and tariff that supports that ill be interested in what kind of caps. Thats great feedback weve developing a feed and tariff your expectation to try to maximize the use of Available Space and so we are looking at size limits that will probably be greater than most roofs available in San Francisco it is consistent with the feedback youre getting. Any other comments. Im curious what are those folks that have opted out do they give a reason. We ask for a reason by opt out by calling us for most people that is varied i can bring back the statistics what weve learned from the interactions with the customers. Ill be interested. Great ill do that. Anything else commissioners Public Comment increase mr. Brooks are you making our way up here. Thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners good to hear that good news im eric brooks with the eric brooks sf green party our city sf clean energy advocates. And the local Grassroots Organization in our city and just once again thank the staff for getting us where we are at slightly higher than one percent the best performance of my Choice Program in over one thousand this is incredible i think that is a strong signal we can move in customers and do a higher megawatt i urge you to push staff in 2, 3, 4 direction and calling your attention to hopefully seen the email he sent last week that champions the sid neither under all the circumstances trail the master plan if not ill make sure you get that all the community Choice Programs in the state are getting off the ground and looking at the monopoly of utilities getting ready to switch to choose but the big drawback from the orienters of the Community Choice weve pushed for none of those plans has a comprehensive detailed local installations plan for renewables and the thing we push and push for, of course, the jobs component i sent the sidney australia to show you what an amazing report i recommend you read it i think we heard staff say their going to work on this thing with the sidney aau trail plan ill have one caution sidney australia relies on bio mass for i shouldnt say a lot but part of components are bio mass it is problematic be usually increases Green House Gas emissions and doesnt reduce them it seems like a good idea but ill just add that one caution do model on sidney we make that mistake instead of that use Battery Storage to balance out accident load that is much better than mass and stuff like that so thats my one big comment about cleanpowersf look at the sidney model and get that concept for the citywide role and thats correct. Yes. Ill hope that has a plan develops well look to the cities everywhere to the development of the next phase good afternoon mr. Fried. Jason fried, executive officer wanted to talk about the opt out numbers increases the size by a few megawatts to not squeeze out the residential does the second part of the first launch the first was commercial with those that raised their hands hands and making sure the residential will be 20 megawatts assuming in the financial side i encourage you when staff talks about the approvals youre getting them to them and encouraging such actions the best way the more customers the more financially sound and the quicker to get to the jobs quickly and more to full launch out and others involved the quicker is great i agree with mr. Brooks with the next phases how were launching lets continue to Pay Attention to the launch of the first phase the next group Pay Attention the Residential Group in november and that will be key to understand the future of cleanpowersf looks like it is continued to see the opt out numbers that will be larger than anything in the past large you you know than one or two percent out rate i encourage the staff to give the support to the extra 5 or 6 megawatts were getting that to them as as soon as possible thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. The wastewater bond sale. Have the slides please. Eric cfo of the public works i have a brief presentation and wanted to hit the highlights of our sale the Revenue Bonds on may 10th we actually sold the bonds on may 10th i made comments on that date but have more details in the presentation just to recap the transaction we sold 300 million in the wastewater bonds that is 75 percent were green bonds that means their certified by a third party they met certain standards, in fact, the highest standard for climatic bonds the remaining writing to percent of issue was not certified as green the term of bonds is thirty years with an average of 21 years and we sold through the competitive transaction so whenever you move forward to issue bonds with the Credit Rating from the agencies and generally, you receive are firmer mansions we received an update from the standard and poorest we have on the table on the righthand side of the slide the investment the two agencies for moody and at the top of the table is triple a the highest in the rating and at the bottom is a minus grade and as you can see here we moody has firmed our double rating and updated our double a minus so we have our split ratings the s p 500 is higher thats not uncommon theyre more conservative the citing they cited a number of upgrading for the wastewater culprits within the continues long term Financial Plan improvements rate setting policy owe the demonstrated track record for the enterprise the first you got in the sfpuc and depending on kr9 supply it saves you, we estimate we saved 5 base points that is one Million Dollars for other 3 beyond any doubt of one hundred Million Dollars issue not a significant savings so we entered the market with good Credit Ratings and a favorable market this the triple market 20year rate this is the index of long term municipal rates we have the next graph over 1996 and 2016 and this is the equivalent of the same thing the treasurer bond for the security and you prices other securities of 0 of that that the index of the community bopped if you have a lower than a triple organization your rates are higher than that what is nobility the 20 years m m. D. Rates the 2 quarter on the day of the price has ombudsman lower in the past 10 years 29 days weve hit you dont i cant claim we have a crystal ball but hit a favorable market on the rates so we had a good ryan white and entered a good market and generate a lot of interest for transactions and had 8 and 9 bidders on various series the true interest costs as listed the 3 top bids for the series and what you see the spread of top bias are incredibly small from j. P. Morgan chase was that percent are percent and the cover bid as you can see is in scale with a fraction an incredible amount of interest in the transaction ordinarily when you sell transactions extensively the dollar writer was helpful and shared 23 investors and 3 had 4 million each those are the lowest the puc is lower than the past bond sales i believe since 2001 at least so favorable market doesnt ratings and it is a great combination. Your crystal ball laughter . And we received a lot of press coverage on this issue another interesting thing we were as i mentioned the first green bond with the standard and we received press coverage thanks to our Public Affairs group in reuters the bond buyers and global bond intelligence and sf Daily Journal and from the white house weve got go more press and were extremely happy with the sale and credit the Financing Team mike and others who did an amazing job completing that transaction im ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you so much for this existing just want we are right on the cuttingedge of doing business we appreciate you in this space and hearing it is doing so well so far commissioners questions or comments. Can you handle my retirement laughter after i retire. Any Public Comment on this item hearing none, next item, please. So my last item is the update on the wastewater enterprise. Good afternoon, commissioners kathy howe for infrastructure we still have a few projects remaining in the wastewater Capital Improvement and with that theres one that is behind schedule all the construction is complete but were negotiating with the contractor and holy thaip theyll be wrapped up that is for phase two so if you have any other questions ill be happy to answer them. Commissioners any Public Comment on this item . Yes. Good afternoon again eric brooks sf green party our city sf clean energy advocates. This is more to the entire general manager report i want to say this at the end of the report it didnt apply only to cleanpowersf but the Municipal Program a new bill that is just passed unanimously in the state legislator supported by a democrat named mike called ac a11 will put a ballot measure on November Ballot that possibly will allow the legislator so eliminate the puc and that has a profound with the municipal power enterprise and cleanpowersf probably negatively impacting because politicians are subject to the pressures of the fossil fuel than the problematic and it is easy to look at this bill and say lets get rid of of cpuc but youll have experience with utilities that you know how dangerous that could be and ive talked about this yesterday at lafco and urge you and your staff to really look at this carefully and probably pass the senate but we may want to consider the agency and ask the senate not to pass them or consider the implementation if it does and how well manage ac a11 and if the ballot measures passes by the public it required a 3 4ths vote well have a big battle youll all have to engage on the regulations to create to shuttle the to be honest from the cpuc to other agencies and create new agencies that it would be a huge task for you as an agency and us to make sure that that didnt end up being a disaster i want to flag that for you and ive sent an email to staff ill send an email to you, you can look at the bill yourselves but this is scary and i think that is incumbent to get on it before that passes the senate and in this case it will be on the ballot thanks. Thank you. I hope our legislative team a tracking this bill and brings us further updates through the general manager thank you. That concludes my report. Thank you we will move to consent yes. Please read the items. Item 8 of the all matters listed hereunder constitute a consent calendar, are considered to be routine and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests in which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. A approve the minute to ss c abc and authorize the general manager to increase the agreement up to one Million Dollars plus b approve the increase in the Construction Contractor duration up to two hundred and 73 consequence active days and authorize the contract for a total of contract up to 4 hundred and 43 conservative calendar days and the B Consulting Engineers and award the agreement and authorize the professional service for an not to exceed with a duration of seven years and d the counteracting approval the modifications for reducing the contract by 14 thousand plus within an extension of 200 and 75 conservative days and e approve the contract for the continued contract and authorize the future modifications to the contract for a total contract go duration of one and 83 conservative days and accept the contract approve the modifications reducing the contract before i 200 plus and with conservative days and authorize the final a payment to the contractor and next the r approve the modifications and there not to exceed by 48,000 plus and authorize the final payment to the contractor g im sorry h approve the spefktsdz and award the contract number announcement of 8 hundred plus to the lowest quality responsive bidder Darcy Construction i approve the specifications and award the contract in the amount of of 4 million plus to the lowest qualified responsive bidder m Hernandez Construction and j the award of contract in the not to exceed total amount of one Million Dollars plus to the lowest quality r0b8 and responsive bidder k authorize the agreement with the Association Government for the administration and distribution of stat fund up to 3 million and recommend approval by the board of supervisors and e or l the memorandum of understanding with the community of Alameda Department of agricultural weights and measures with 3 years not to exceed 75,000. Thank you. Is there a request for removing any items id like to remove item 8 l and well take that separately a motion to approve the rest of the consent calendar. So moved. Any Public Comment on the consent calendar mr. Richie all in charge. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . Mr. Richie on 8 l can you explain what that is not a heavy poisoning and pesticides use. Steve richie sunset general manager for water in all the pesticides we basically are hard and minimizing any use of pesticides and nicole i think the animal control not by pesticides by trapping or hunting different kinds of for the umuus weeds a combination of things sometimes manual removal we have to utilize certain pesticides we can provide followup details if you want exactly the kinds of things and in fact, there are a list on Exhibit Organization of different materials that are authorized that he p for use as part of package again trying to minimize that we believe it necessary as part of program. Yeah. I mean we want to make sure with the prompt to the water shed were noting not only in compliance but no treat to our system in any way. An absolute essential were not threatening our water supply and working with the department of environment. On this project. Thank you. I understand there is Public Comment on this item too good afternoon. One more time eric brooks sf green party our city sf clean energy advocates. I actually also put in a request this item be certified one of the first ones i worked on the First Campaign in city hall issues was 1996 with the per day watch to get pesticides out of the Public Places especially near the Water Supplies the very next year i left there started the rule were racketsed to deal with specifications not possible and often happens that tier one herbicides with used tier used on plant are used to those are the most dangeroherbie won a small battle and department of the environment to get them to get away from the to her one herbicides and eventual as soon as possible to phase them out so i would take issue with the fact it is alters necessary to use these especially near waterways and were to protect endangered species and using the herbicides in a threatened wildlife and it is not desirable so what ill urge user urge you to push our department through the general manager to aggressively work to use the tier one herbicides in those programs and im sorry to bring this up today at the last mini work on so many things i dont. No 3eg9 to put in nonbinding language whereas to her one herbicides that cause cancer and otherwise are extremely dangerous to Public Health should be minimize and something in the resolve clause to that asking the general manager to work to as aggressively as possible to minimize the herbicides in the control programs i realize that people are making their best efforts it is time to codify it with language and the public so saw wire trying to get e get away from the uses it falls under the radar and well hear in Staff Members from rec and park and the department of the environment well, were minimizing it so i can tell you from the struggles in the department of the environment theyre not minimum missing and translate to the work because their advised by 24 department you can add language that would be great. Id like and this is an issue that is close to my heart he hired debbie to manage our icm program before she went to the state and now back doing that im curious about what their involvement has been on this and if theres a way for her to make a recommendation i imagine enough conversation for this to appear before us. I mean, i think a couple years ago we did a joint meeting and talked about this whole thing the concern were working collaboratively with them and trying to address the issue thats where the management and all the you know if youre going to put restrictions when the manager is consistent that is challenging so mr. Brooks mentioned the department of the environment took up to issue in the last 60 days the policy matter and concluded for Certain Applications not used for other applications maybe minimize and one was in particular because of the size of the land we deal with our water shed lands so weve discussed at this point i dont know how many debbie was involved. If you wont mind im getting a recommendation from the Deputy Director for her recommendation and approval moving forward with the use of those pesticides make me more comfortable. I think it is appropriate to have a conversation for those of you who dont know local 4r0u6 represents the citywide across the departmental lines theyve been engaged theyre proud of the work they have a separate certification they glow on an annual basis up the state i think that is actually our folks are recognized in San Francisco there was something that crossed any desk i apologize for not bringing this up but a substantive change working closely with the commissioners, i think that the new president of the commission is i want to have some conversation with them given that they have recently made a substantive change so we all know well, maybe so i know we all know what were talking about it gets dicey when you talk about those courses it gets it is poison. It is poison on our water shed land and exhibit a that lists everything. Yeah. Im no chemist i dont know the intoxication it and in exhibit a you know ill ask that the commission and or debbie provide a note that says, you know, this is theyre okay from theville apprehensive to move forward i mean, i have concern about the workers as well it is not just environmental piece. Were working with the department what else do you want her to do. In the last 60 days there is conversation i dont know if this is changed. That has changed since that policy was justy firmed with changes with in 60 days this is consistent but get a letter from the department with this and confirming that is doable and yosz i dont see a problem to defer this to the next meeting we will set up to 9 next fiscal year for many years. Great ill appreciate and get Department Questions as well thank you very much well continue that to the next item next item, please. Item 9 is approve amendment number 4 to agreement c s can i ask a question im sorry didnt you vote to approve it and no, we removed it and continue to the next item 9 approve the item 4 for the 879 and authorize increasing the amendment by 2 million with the Term Extension of 3 years i want to note on the agenda it referred to amendment number 3 but actually amendment 40 so the resolution are correct to say it is amendment 4 and not 3. Okay. Is there a motion to approve this amendment as corrected . So moved ill second. Comments from commissioners Public Comment on this item. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . That motion carries next item, please. Item 10 discussion of the draft 8040 water plan for the city and county of San Francisco. Good afternoon steve richie for water if i can have the slides please i want to cover an important complex topic with the commission needs to take up if i could have the slides the water map the acronym worked for the San Francisco Public Utilities commission basically provides backward information for the customers and the Water System Improvement Program and relevant agreement with the 2009 with the wholesale customers and various others and the assessment between the balance of the Water Systems in the drought years and describes the policy questions that needs to be answered which were referring to as the water map confesses questions and the water supply options to consider and the recommended program but that is a proposed program were looking forward to say feedback from the commission today on the issues that we need to deal with so what are we asking of you 3 different discussions for the demonstration of the new description for ceqa review the water map ill present to the description we need to hear from you the commissioner priorities and requests and what the Commission Priorities for the supplies going into the background commissioner has an obligation to deliver water to the 12w40e8 customers to the insurance of one and 84 million gallons this is on the 1984 settle one and 84 million per day was established or established thats what it provides to the wholesale customers and the Improvement Program has delivery of no more than that 200 and 65 gallons through 2018 it is silent what happens between 2018 the 2008 wsip and the agreement was deferred to 2018 were one should San Francisco make santa clara and san jose customers theyre not governed the is that you, and, secondly, should the Port Commission over the supply assurance to meet the customer demand and another piece backward for the requirement for local reservoirs have you know cut spot supply will 3 and a half million gallons per day we need to deal with that overall the demand projects are less than projected and well blow the one and 84 million supply assurance and one and 80 million gallons that includes san jose and santa clara is the demands are below with the commission is general Obligation Bond to provide and the projected demand are below the guarantees an exception the ante palo alto is reached its individual guarantees with an ailed 5 million gallons a day of demand the next two slides are graphs that show all of the customers with the blue part of bar on the graph being the fiscal year 20142015 purchased and the green bar represents the individual guarantees for the customers so as you can see on this graph a lot of the green that is not covered by blue so a lot of folks are excess compared to the last fiscal year demand and one expectation is hills that is roughly youll notice East Palo Alto on the list this is the blue bar is up there so a dry year and san jose and santa clara at the bottom no individual supply guarantee the guarantees are the where the gallons go the next slide shows projected 40 the stage graph oriented definitely and once again the blue a 20142015 purchases and the green is the individual supply guarantee and the orange lines are the projected 2024 purposes poovlt an orange line above the bar again theyre looking the above guarantee hayward an orange line above hay word is seeing lead customers not an individual supply guarantee by a contractor with the limitation of the amount of water it dates to an early 1960 contract if their demand is larger and larger they cut into the water available to other customers as part of their guarantees on the righthand side shows the san jose and santa clara have no guarantees they definitely show a demand at this point so those 4 customers are the augments of the bunch and santa clara and san jose and palo alto represents the decision turns out for the commission. Can i ask a question well, maybe i should let you continue. No, no go ahead. Im trying to remember wonder why how the individual supply agreements were reached the guarantees reached didnt each city provide a recommendation of a proposal on the development as well as what they need isnt. The way in 1984 it was established by the one and 84 insurance and then it was for the customers to identify amongst themselves how the one and 84 million gallons a day was split up document from 198 the final version of that and it basic laid how each one of them came up with the demands and have a methodology for the being up with the supply to individual supply guarantees so customers tilt adopted overseeing and improved those and give them to San Francisco San Francisco had to take action to modify the contracts to finalize that but it was a decision amongst the customers how to divide up San Francisco in delicate that. In east upon a time didnt project this growth theyre now facing how would that work. Weve not devolved into the history that have but East Palo Alto is unique it has a lot of up in 1982 an unincorporated county and incorporated around 2000 it was actually served by a county run. Utilities. Yeah. Water district East Palo Alto so it was an action by the county board of supervisors that set in place how that was worked out we had the opportunity details how it came about. Okay. But also san jose and santa clara are not part of water yeah. San jose and santa clara were after the customers so the contracts that are mitigated resulted in one and 84 didnt cover their contracts or agreement. I get it thank. So we end up with back to the slides resulting questions one how do we maintain the supply reliability awhile addressing the supplies by the new requirement this is how to make sure we have a one 84 an obligation, and, secondly, you know what should the puc consider for the city of 70s and you have a letter from the mayor of san jose explicit to be made a customer of 5. 5 million gallons a day and a letter in the city of santa clara with 5 million goggles a day and fourthly is what options the puc so supply up to 1. 5 to East Palo Alto increase in demand for the supply guarantee and 5 should the puc rise the current obviously or the drought reliability in the water system as you recall the decision in 2008, said that 265 is the condition actually no greater than 5 percent with the customers that are working on this options how it is 10 percent in the future there is not anything in here a question should we there beyond that is it pretty clear not an issue at this time. So the answers in the water map and in the commissioner moran suggested we should line up the questions presuming the answers are positive so were looking for the 3. 5 with the regional supply that is available in the drought and nondrought that answer applies to san jose and santa clara those were saying well line up additional supplies to meet the requirements East Palo Alto slightly different answer there weve work with the customers to for the individual supply guarantees and the pencil for transfer of the individual supply guarantees it in the water supply agreement with the wholesales customers provides for them to provide a Permanent Transfer of excess guarantees to somebody that needs it so far none of those were put into effect because partly they may not be anxious to give up a supply in the future thai may need someday as opposed to that and should the puc look at the rationing so those are the promotion answers so, now ill talk about supply options briefly because 2 has changed not that much and get into the other considerations i think are worthy of note first on the supplies again thats not changed much there is additional diversions from the river this is a potential out there secondly, there is potential for deceleration weve talked about with the projects and or also the devaluation of ground water and thirdly, with the nonfavorable use of cycled water for irrigation and put money into the kip for direct or indirect for projects that is lining up a couple of items on the agenda for looking at this as as poekt and commercialism is another possibility for supply one that is called out by the figure the transfer for figures not worked and theres another possibility so other considerations the hundred and 84 is sufficient to revolve the palo alto issue one of the things well be engaging the customers 4 customers that have a minimum purchase requirement theyre well below that theyre looking at the demand bouncing back of paying for water they dont have a use for so it maybe ways one of the idea that is suggested those customers Mountain View with the part of East Palo Alto and transfer with that part of new purchase requirements as well so both the pieces there maybe a way to work out and direct feedback from the discussions anything we do to take care of san jose or santa clara shouldnt impact other wholesale customers through the process thirdly, to the development of the resources we should invest the evaluation but give the demands are low we should be cause cautious and the plan meets the hard work with the timing and Big Investments for customers are not wield about given the demands low we can plan but not necessary build right now our some other conditions considerations the drought reliability goals well have to do a little bit what the state is going to do on the last governs order for the resources to relook at water supply planning processes with the Management Plan and the other plans we should see what develops that comes in january and water loss reduction will be. Priority dont know if there is actually any you know big supplies not obtained but part of all this priority come out of drought everybody should be minimizing their losses for the San Francisco and also a key want for the wsip recapture process it for the underlying water map for that project into the Environmental Review that can change under the assumptions so for a lot of information in the background for the way you, you not to head we need a Development Description for the ceqa review we have proposed answers to start with the basis for the program depiction description we need our priorities for developing the supply projects and East Palo Alto individual guarantee can be addressed more rapidly there a supply impact fee not through a project but between one or more of our 1w40er8 customers with palo alto to accomplish something there and the timing on this we need your input now because under the water supply agreement the condition as signed on to make a decision on in san jose and santa clara by the end of 2018 so we will spend the next two years or through the Environmental Review process so the decision can be made by 2018 as to you know how the customer and the commission will propose to make san jose and santa clara so were on the hook to make a decision by the end of 2018 so a lot of stuff ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. I know there is several folks in did audience that have testimony. Thank you very much and i want to make one initial comments ive been reading the letters and following the East Palo Alto closely and i would like to figure out a way to make East Palo Alto whole if possible so i wanted to start some of the conversations questions with that and i guess one of my questions have conversation started with some of the potential for the big four that already have the minimum Purchase Agreement how has that gone or waiting for direction from the commission. A little bit of both conversations with 3 of them especially Mountain View and by water from us and in the ground water and the current demand is less than the purchase requirement from us theyre on the pinch right there and enclosing that could happy owe other wholesale customers that have guarantees i think you know this is a question that we and bosca would like to be in conversation with them one possible answer from the commission palo alto is San Francisco has done its part by providing one and 84 our job and your job to make that work with the 12w40e8 customers i think that is one position to incentivize that decision and the minimum Purchase Agreement that might help the conversation. Commissioners. I would be interested in hearing the Public Comments i know we have representatives from well go to Public Comment and circle back to us first Bryan Perkins is here from congresswoman bureaus office good afternoon. Good afternoon we appreciate this opportunity to speak on above the palo alto compensatory damages vaechd stretched in East Palo Alto we appreciate 24 the system pratsdz on behalf of the decision that benefit the user and San Francisco Public Utilities commission has been the trust since the city the city of palo alto is in a tough position and growth and the city is unable to provide the basic needs for the citizens including ahbp there was an individual who was about thirty years old and explaining that he and his wife and children lived in palo alto their entire life to sustain themselves in the community lived in a sell thats not acceptable but at the time, we hear those there is a decision whether or not enough money for housing to be built in the community and housing bonds like in San Francisco passes and their choices made their families have straddler how to solve the problem but not in East Palo Alto the essential service is folded readily available a water supply for future growth and new interesting this East Palo Alto is setting next to facebook they have 10 thousand people on the campus a lot of the buses start in San Francisco probably youre aware and facebook somewhat is perplexed that will offer the employees a 10,000 bonus to live within miles of facebook East Palo Alto is inches from facebook campus without cell over its water fly and People Living in cell remembers if you fly over palo alto one place in the pen sullivan peninsula not developed. When you speak to the leadership it theyll say well take the Housing First figure out where to put the water and it extends to the teachers, of course, and the city personnel as well as the medium florida income is 52,000 a year and the facebook bonus is 20 percent of medium income the ounce thing that happens is the existing population will be forced obviously out this is wrong for all sorts of reason the reason this particular water system is revolved to the Economic Opportunity a be sprayed throughout the people suicidal and city and ask you instruct our staff to try to make that dream possible for this initiative thank you for your time. Thank you for your comments appreciate those lisa. Good afternoon good afternoon mres i cant councilmember for the upon a time dear director and puc communities thank you for the opportunity to decide this important topic East Palo Alto has a water supply of one. 96 and at or exploding when we are in a drought reduction or project take into account East Palo Alto is requesting the puc prioritize those for another one. 5 of the water supply East Palo Alto values the relationship with the puc and recognizes the solutions that be a collaborative one with sfpuc and bosca East Palo Alto is the smallest and most difference city in the bay area with Affordable Housing and empowerment and Economic Development are foundations of our city and lack of water threatens our ability to make those foundations and control aside East Palo Alto is a leader in the bay area approximately 40 percent of our total horticulturalist is variable not enough we need to develop more Affordable Housing but cant even entitled a project that is one and plus unit one water supply at want 2 jobs for residents East Palo Alto has the lowest percentage of jobs in the area the Unemployment Rate is twice of county average due to the lack of water we cant entitle a one. 6 million of small Property Owner and remet lands our school work hard to overcome challenges but cant review an application for a 5 hundred Student School that is proposing a comprehensive wrap up around solution for students vance were doing everything we can at the local level our residents have the Lowest Per Capita of bosca level at 57 gallons her day despite our challenges weve involved in solution and increased the water rates by 12 a month for the Water Supplies shortages in the loss production many of the developers and negatively impacting by the lack of water have written letters to the sfpuc theyre not be water experts but stand to advance the goals to make East Palo Alto more affordable and a place to live and work we request sfpuc prioritize our request for 1. 5 and work with the sfpuc and basilica to satisfactory this a Water Transfer and a water loss project that saves the system 1. 5 m g d attorneyclient i know you share the commitment to approve the area and appreciate you and your staff on our brave me and my staff are here to answer questions. Thank you for being here today patrick. I moved to palo alto 50 years ago im the president of the East Palo Alto bear chamber of commerce okay and ive been involved with Newcomers Community Development Projects over the last thirty years im here to encourage the commission to support the citys request to evaluate this water allocation to allow the city to continue to grow and improve our Economic Conditions i would like to thank the puc for giving any community the change to talk about correcting the water allocations correcting the low water locations for our community in East Palo Alto can enjoy the same benefits of the community in the hetch hetchy system current year thank you, commissioners. Thank you for your comments maam, good afternoon. Welcome. Good afternoon, commissioners nicole ceo as you may know in 2008, this commission adapted the program for the water Improvement Program as part of this commission adapted the levels that was Water Quality and reliability seismically reliability and you also deferred several critical waters supply conditions until the end of 2018 your staff initiated if related to the water supply decisions and called the Water Management action plan to make your decisions by the end of 2018 i said to clarify a few what our expectations bosca expected the puc to meet the level goals part of eir and those candidates including the candidates for the water supply reliability in our contracts and each of the wholly customers that long term planning on this commitment we support the necessary investments to maintain the restricted and to insure the levels are achieved if you have received letters from the mayor of East Palo Alto and mayors gilmore from santa clara about the requests the city of East Palo Alto needs more goggles normally to meet the growth as the mayors letter states the lack of waters restrict our available more Affordable Housing and Economic Growth the city of santa clara asks for access of water as one m g d and in both cases assess guaranteed to supplies is critical to meeting the liability of theyre residents and businesses East Palo Alto san jose and santa clara are longstanding customers of the imp have continued to pay in their share of the cost find critical improvements to the water system in 2008, part find eir each of the cities made similar requests and deferred until 2018 bosca supported this commission to direct the staff to exude the environmental work for the Decision Making and bosca is present to help on the water map on behalf of the with wholesale customers. Thank you very much. This is all the Public Comment cards i have other members of the public that want to comment at this time . My name is jeff the president of the Business District 2, 3, 4 upon a time the ravens represents one of the Economic Development opportunities in the city of palo alto one Hundred Acres panama canal approximately, i think that 50 acres are vacant and looking to undertake the Economic Development were not now because of the lack of water im here to support the city of East Palo Alto for the million of water per day it is articulated clearly the economic inequitable and it would be my request that rather than putting this off until 2018 that the commission doing everything we can to rotunda to the demand for water that is needed today thank you very much. Please good afternoon. Good afternoon, commissioners my name is invading a Community Health planner powder the Health System and thank you for elliott palo alto request for water supply and approve those requests East Palo Alto is a health issue like much of the region it is a housing crisis and more and more the highest prices of housing forces the residents to make unhealthy choices with un4th food and other things many low income residents lived in lower housing and that can trigger asthma and people are suffering with stress and the risk of kin cable disease and we really feel that the problem is everywhere in the bay area 40 percent of horticulturalist in East Palo Alto is Affordable Housing and the city has development in the pipeline that are only permit from the water supply is increased East Palo Alto is developing a jeopardy plan to guide the residential and Economic Development in a healthy and equitable way with more jobs where they currently exist and allows the residents to work in the cities they live in a health appreciative a benefit for residents and to use more transportation to get to work it can only be approved from the city has access to more water east populating is a leader in the Economic Development and will need increased water supply to continue in that i want to thank this commission for work with the East Palo Alto staff and your staff i urge the commission to find a solution to East Palo Alto request for the health of our community thank you. Thank you for your comments. Any other Public Comments on this item at this time as a reminder no action today this is a conversation to and when we i mean mr. Richie when will you come back and sorry about that whats the process here so at what point well be taking action on is recommendations if we can get to them. It depends on what we hear in the commission what well you know the primary thing for the water map to develop a program deception that is sufficient for the ceqa review that is the outcome we are trying to deal with in the individual projects there are some things underway today but that Program Descriptions probably will take on the order of a month maybe a month and a half to put together and be sufficient for the commissions consideration on the matter of East Palo Alto this is something well start pursuing actively right away a few deductions about the possibility that get us into the individual supply guarantee transfer ream this is something the commission didnt have to act on only to come up with an incentive to make it more attractive to occur. Thank you, commissioners. Thank you i have a couple of comments and suggestions if i wonder first is their full partners to the water agreement and their issue their supply guarantee is not sufficient to their needs North San Jose and the city of santa clara are Different Cases in that they are temporary customers that have gotten to rely on a temporary water supply for the basically needs of community and that is a difficult situations that existed for a long time and in addition asking for more water than ref as temporary customers the First Agreement in 84 was in response to a litigation and a contentious relationship that exist one our wholly customers the 84 agreement created a base in part predictable in their cooperation the following on agreement to 2009 took that further and started to deal for the first one with the supply questions but didnt provide a road map how to deal with the problem of people needing more water than their supply guaranteed that will recognize the possibility of and provide provisions for transferring supply guarantee the one willing partners with either on a compensate or noncompensated was not requiring 1 or 2 one or the other a mechanism in place the problem that the people that have supply guarantees and assess in their current demand look at that assess as a significant asset and thats an asset that comes into play if they have growth plans and curtailment orders that comes into play in a variety of what you say it is a significant step for water agencies to agree to seat a portion of guarantee this is the kind of thing you look at to how people will talk to you in 20 or 50 years and make that decision so those are not easy this is a from a contract contract the easiest way but a difficult way i think the amount of water that East Palo Alto is talking about is relatively small certainly the afternoon and 2018 is a long way away and in some ways for dealing with the kinds of issues were talking about the only way to solve that problem in the short term is through some kickoff agreement for an acquisition were able to come up with other ways that would be great id like to meet that need you think that youve been here before weve went through the intern supply discussions there was an extensive presentation from East Palo Alto and from the commission i think that your case is compelling and sympathetic pause and possibly accommodate they would be sympathetic to that right now i dont know how we can do that i can suggest ways you can do it thats cheap advice from me it is deferring to you the problem weve and they have 1y0i7b8 by whatever set of agreements an doesnt even had situations to develop is it at beawkward i wod be uncommon with a temporary water sly so i think it would be beneficial to all of us in the water business in the bay area to regulate that so have a set of rules and the future could be known to a greater stent than today thats as far as intent that is where my thinking leads me i think that is important to recognize also in addition to contract issues there is a water issue and if we take on allocation that is move it to somebody who really gets it that is an increase of water not just a paper transaction but water at the same time, we have a contractually obligations to meet the water supply so far the wholesale customers of one 84 as a claim on another 84 marry as 200 and 65 the number were familiar with we current cannot provide if demand were higher than today, we cannot deliver on that commitment in order to meet the level of Service Retirement rirmentsdz we can only provide one and 48 m g d thats a significant deficit the good news were not using that yet so what that means i think is that it didnt mean it is smaller but time to figure out and the projections of the materials indicate that 20 to provide water supply for this is been a series of issues that have been around for a long time and this process is starting were talking about in the open not just the staff level were going to need that kind of attention for some time my suggestion is that a plan really didnt have any matt haney unless you attach projects to it and because projects have cost you start having the reality of if i want to make this obviously how long will it take to get it done and what kind of a primarily and how likely to happen to all so i think we need in this planning process to get as quickly as we can to aau ray to where you are objectives against the fiscal projects and which we can meet and cant so to that end i would find it helpful to find a couple of priority lists and the first list might be which needs do we want to meet at the highest priority and the needs at the lowest priorities the highest priorities is probably motivating the existing demand of the existing customers and cross that out of tale where this list of priorities does making temporary where increasing the temporary customers fall maybe not at the same lovely of priorities and that would be helpful to put those objectives in a priority order this is something the commission can consider and we 345ish9 agree but make adjustment and this is an appropriate consideration for the commission and if you have a goal how is that in terms of water and how that arrays over time so some of those issues are meeting current demand levels for example and may not present themselves for several years to take the individual priorities and the second list would be all things equal and things are never equal but the preference for tools well need to meet those needs the first one will be concentration better not to use water twice certainly consider that to fill some kind of projects that is the first and theres limitations to that cost is a limit to available projects and you can say that is the first one we want to do and the next thing again, a limitation and limitation will say permitting limitations so i think that would be helpful to go through and those are the kinds of things the tools we would like to employ and maybe the bottom of that still on the list is Something Like diesel with a lot of environmental and primarily and timing issues as a whole the whole ball of wax i dont know if this is a list but it reflect our priorities all things equal that is a tough list to practice but i think that will be useful to give this commission an opportunity to weigh in on the other hand, as they express their opinion if you have those two things youll start if you have your goals you have the water quantities and the list of projects and come up with a list of projects and you know some time down the road how far down the list and how far we want to go thats a suggestion i know you have a lot of work to bring this together those are a couple of thoughts might make that easy to conceptualize. I find that helpful ill add one piece to the experience the question of sequencing you said that on the timing but recognizing there is a request before us with palo alto and the need there and you know as may be one the beginning consideration as we look at the Priority Issues and then got the 2040, 248 somewhat of a deadline eve it the artificial to try to sequence the projects and priorities if that makes sense. Commissioner. At some point id like to physically see the area there is a commission trip id like to actually see people effected in the areas with the lands if this is possible and arrange that. We can definitely do that. Excuse me one of the trick it things Going Forward for something we want to do as quickly as we can within the contract that is 1k56r9d throughout the contract that is a presumption that solving one problem wont cause other problems thats a hard standard to meet and hard to define i think that frankly in the our thinking about that the definition may reach a solution as to how we do this the time is a key factor not all needs present themselves in the same year so the harm that might be in theory may not present itself and we need to figure out how to think about that. So i think this is has been rehearsal i think that has we articulated you know the supply guarantee is one of the issues that were going to tackle and talk to folks who have the supply guarantee theyre not meeting if it we get to a point Everyone Wants to keep their supply guarantee so the 1. 5 and then the santa clara and san jose which is more than that and that means we will have to identify supply issues undergo that list it costs money and timeline so we have to prioritize not much more conservatism so youll have to go through each one to see the cost and the question wo everyone has to understand if we make the decisions everyone has to participate in the cost and that is something pat youre getting to we need to make sure the people are aware of before they make decisions so the structure of the agreement is such that while we think that maybe correct and not everybody is participating we need to recognize what the agreement says and honor what the reason behind the language is there are interests that are protected and in the negotiations of 12 and honor that and tale with that and also need to solve the problem it is i think this is actually just from a problem solving standpoint were dealing with which i find fascinating i think the advisory may be able to figure that out. 2 may not be as linear we may want to consider the lower hanging fruit sooner than later and understanding at a certain point needing to bring on supplies in the long timeline for some other options we might includes immediately options to deal with the epa but the supply questions barking at our heels i think this experience what the subsequence and the list 67 project and the costs and timeline in some kind of version that can be presented to us that is understandable a way to move forward. Commissioners. Any other comments so i wanted to clarify one thing that right now, were able to meet the 248; right . And were at 240 were looking those projects that would guarantee the one 84; right . So we can look at you know whatever we do now can go towards that and give it some time toe you know trigger that out figure out that later. In the 2040 didnt include the additional water palo alto and didnt include the interruptables so not as good we have the next item were considering the includes from a diesel plan and from the river and thats the best plan we have at the moment how to get to meanwhile e meeting 265 those are hard lists their harder lists frankly, if there are a large unexperienced entitlements at the same time it makes the approval process more difficult and an allowable situations is a liability it is two visual hard to explain. Mr. Richie. This is great this is good direction to work with for example, off the top of my head you know there are 3 indirect projects that are starting to at least starting the discussion stage those are rapidly the mou on the agenda a little bit later and the santa clara and the advanced verification a use with the palo alto to augment their ground water supply those are include in the study with the enjoyment with the Reliability Program we may get better information rapidly but those are relatively easy ones to align and challenge of doing them and i can see presenting the packet prioritizing the projects those and others fall and the commission could say yeah well be willing to do those or a better project if it comes along if were not doing something for 20 years but Something Else may rice of more Cost Effective but something the commission starts with this is where what it takes with what we know now were willing to present it in that way and having that conversation that would be great. Sound good anything else any further comments from the public on this item. If not thank you next item, please. Number 11 public hearing and possible action to adopt the 2015 urban water plan. Steve richie this is the 5 year report that we have to provide to the states on our water reliability the fact irrelevant relevant no decision has been made this assumes the existence of the 2008 commissioner made on wsip and lays outs to charge our future supply and water conditions a hearing in early may so it is up for documentation today, we recommend it is due to the state by july 1st there was also guidance from dw r the regulations will be changing potentially next january and they said well, dont hold off waiting for the regulations regulations have a but way of slipping we recommend our adoption of the plan as it stand right now. I move approval. Technical. Public comment on this item. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . Stands approved thank you. Next item, please. Item 12 authors finds memorandum of understanding with the Silicon Valley the bay area and conservatism agency and cal water, 201135 with the duration of 18 months. Again, this is an mou to basically study the use for the Feasibility Study with the wastewater and Treatment Plant with the Redwood Shores memo park area used to be the the System Authority now Silicon Valley. But theyve been other than a long time and looking forward to a Good Partnership and a motion to approve. So moved. Second. Public comment . All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . That item passes next item, please. Item 13 authorize the general manager to execute and amend and restate a memorandum of understanding by and between San Francisco Unified School District and the rec and Park Department and authorize the general manager to obtain board of Supervisors Budget Committee approval to release one and 20 million on reservoir for the recycled project. Commissioners that is a kind of the close to the end of the approval the planning process for the cycled water on the west side and the ground water on the west side and it would basically lay out in terms of the additions two sfpuc in gg park that requires the board of supervisors on construction in gg park Golden Gate Park commend barbara the project manager and jeff the project manager for the west side San Francisco ground Water Project theyve put a lot of effort to make that a good document had allows rec and park to move forward with important facilities within the park. Commissioners a motion or question. Second. Second. Any Public Comment on this item . All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . Thank you mr. Richie well now move to closed session items. Donna read practical 16 and 17 and 18 and 19 through 25 will not are heard between the city and county of San Francisco and Jacobs Engineering groups incorporated recommended to the contract and previously settled action in regards to the mountain cadillac and the site epa region 9 and 19 deb and the frankness versus the city of San Francisco. Any Public Comment on the matters to be talked about in closed session can i get the Attorney Client privilege. Motion to assert the Attorney Client privilege. Second all in favor, say i. I. Opposed . Wellsession. Ready here were now back in open session items 16, 17 we were settled motion . Disclose or not disclose all in favor, say i. I. Opposed . We will not disclose discussions any other new business hearing none, the this meeting is adjourned at 4 oclock