Transcripts For SFGTV Planning Commission 20221112

And it was a Third Party Operator that would then lease to another fleet or users. And then we have had 34 letter of determination requests on this question. What this would use be. It was a reason why we need it to define the uses and all of those situations it was a Third Party Provider look to develop these charging sites and then lease them over time to different fleets or organizations. I see, thank you. It looks like i hope that the Planning Department and staff account work with the experience of this legislation in terms of seeing those trends and how work with that with the supervisor. Another question is about the pdr replacement requirement. My question in here is that San Francisco is not a big city. I know we always Say Something about replace am of things but when we are talking about land, im just wonder happening, do we have a pipeline of pdr replacement . How do we than we do have lands for a pd rushgs replacement . Hi. Good afternoon, director of city wide policy. Pdr is a big and complicated issue. We have been working on it at least since 2008 eastern neighborhood plan where we went through the space needed and did rezoning. How much pdr space would be lost. It was and calculated about 3 penalty 5 million square feet of pdr space would be lost that has happened by 2020 and have a Strong Demand for pdr space. Pdr in construction land use types use a combination of indoor and out door space in the building and a working space empploys people in the outside the job are cristial to San Francisco emergency response. Food distribution and Utility Service and jobs that you dont need an education for. And compared to other industries pdr employs more people color,im guarantees with fewer barriers. We feel the space has been shrinking. We are working with a big are change to the controls we expect to bring before you soon. That would doll a few things including a pdr funds so that if there was a replacement requirement you pay out of that. And then there could be space created. Well update the Industrial Design guide lines and evaluates an office pdr and mapping the transportation use related that with a freight map and transportation element. In this case, the and adding on the pdr with the ev thinking about what happens in our remaining lands that is important tong about how critical the lands are. And of if we wanted be fair to the ev fleet charging users who are seeing and monitoring this ordinance before you today and as it goes through they may think they not when controls are and in back and fleet replacement requirement and change the fee and surprised the application has a higher fee this is providing their notice to the fleet charging uses this work is part of a big are body of work in process near years went city and it is important city policy thank you for that. And i hope the department is working with the board of Supervisors Office on this as limp i think that is a big question for me as of course in the central soma there is an initialive. My plat question is racial social equity argument. I want to expand on how we define that. One thing is like it could harm, there is like initial hunch for me that the ev could harm the transit use. And another thing i think was part of the state proposition as well is who are using the ev chargers. I feel we dont have much analysis as to who are going to use the ev you know again there is we have analysis on the jobs that you know proposing but in terms of like who are going to be using evs and again like the impact on transit. Im very much proponent of people using transit. Students learn how to take muni bus and encourage the trains. That is like in terms of how we make an argument and racial social equity is through not just in terms of the jobs but who are the users . Who are we trying to people use ev . Those are my comments thank you. Commissioner koppel . I typically do following firefighter all of these Energy Topics and generations. Solar pv and energy storage, ev charging and a fan of mass electric transportation here in the city. But also i think our speaker sum today up best we need to make sure clean transportation is available for all of San Francisco. Thanks to staff for your work. We heard this a couple times gone back and forth. In support of it today and looking to see this move forward so we get more evs on the road. Thank you. Commissioner reese . I want to point out the things i did appreciate and the section the way it would be in terms of implementing section 303cc things the commission should consider when evaluating fleet charging use. And general low hoping that we can add language in terms of ecquit and he encourage disbursement of the locations across it is city so we dont see them in krons traited areas. Could staff speak to adding language on geographic equity . The adopted ordinance requires annual reporting and part of what we have been collaborating with sfmta on is what sorts of indicators to better understands the affects of the fleet on the transportation network. To your point upon about ensuring their geographically disbursed prosecute meeting equity that he is manage we can include to come back to the commission and may be the board with recommendations for if changes to the ordinance that would address any inequityys in the projects locateed the zas point we had a few mrksz 5 or more. They are locate instead downtown areas. We are open to the language that you would like to see in terms how we asetsz the cu and we think that would be well informed by analysis at the sfmta. Thank you. Will distribution of the site and the comment that commissioner imperial was picking up on where are the vehicles going to pick up ride exerts drop them off. Im concerned if not where theyre going to recharge. Come impacts most community the pdr tendses to be concentrated was there an analysis of the accomplices to be permitted in terms of the existing parking lot type use do we have a sense how many and where they are located and place we will permit if the board were to approve that. Where folks ago we will see a rush to the places for applications and then as the vehicles recharge the neighborhoods are impacted by that recharging traffic and pick up traffic. So. Can you address that. I can address half of what you said not all of what you said there are unknowns here i would like to address what commissioner ruiz said. The dialogue the commissioner is having now is exceed amming important and appreciate and part of what you are considering are cus for the ones that conscience for the ones that need cus. Sto so if the commission would like to recommend a new criteria for the c u consideration this includes racial and social equity when something is before you staff will be talking to you about the racial and social equity impacts of location you can suggest that to the board that will be a new cu criteria if the board accepts your idea this. Is in your power today to recommend to the board for their action. There is a lot we dont know and the board and mayor did do a lot of negotiation with not only the fleet charging industry but also concern public. For the most part that is why we are not recommending changes to where the zoning where permitted or cu because there has been alost negotiation outside of staff involve am. Thank you. Commissioner diamond. If i understand the staff report correct low. Theory is if we get too tough on this in order to accomplish if our goals and too taoist criteria 2 challenging it ends up turning dpoun every project or if our fee in the transportation fee we come up with is too high if a study supports it or if the pdr replacement reporter is impossible to fulfill it is challenging we have the companies doing fleet charging in locations and get off the impactless. What you are trying to do is instructor a balance between how far we go in regulating this to address occurrence and not go so for we have all of the impacts and none of the benefits is this accurate. Nothing is quite perfect but everything is balanced against each other . Thats correct. There is a market here and there is service this is want to serve this market. If the present it or revving lit it to the extent that it makes sense yes, we expect they go to across the county line. I agree with commissioner koppel im supportive of transit, i believe we have a language way to get to a system that functioned the way we typeset and the meantime we are encouraging torn switch to electric vehicles and to do this in that case we neat fleet charging and like it in the city so we get the advantages that in ordinance tries to accomplish. Im in favorite ordinance as written. I will make a motion i move to approve as proposed with staff recommendations. Second. I see commissioner. I see you commissioner moore others have their hands up i will go to you next. Its all right. I will make a comment first and i will call on you in a mobile home. Can staff speak to the analysis that was included in our packet regardingly the fee. We heard from the industry that there is concern around the feet concern i share have the ordinance trying to push for getting electric vehicle adopted quickly. Having some in the city and concern the fee is too high how you are thinking about the information that came become in the memo from urban economics. The time of the nexus update we did a ministudy to see what the how many motorized trips we can expect from the uses and when fee the maximum fee. That is to show there is definitely a higher fee that would prefleck the impact this is is not fee we think is feasible. That is from further study. Commissioner moore . The comment about geographic equity is important. However without having discussed with the it is not full to approve something over recommend something this it is not propose in the front of us today. The other comment is asking mr. Roger, with experience depletion of pdr space. Whenever we are having office or whatever it is replace pdr the amount of replacement is never 1 to 1. How would you seat quotient for replacement with vehicle vehicle charging stations . Thank you so much, commissioner. And consultation with the za the fee range the replace am requirement ranges and can be up to 1 to 1 when the replacement is provided it is what we seen multistory buildings. A lot there is limited land for pd rushgs it is ability to create more space for replacement exist in multistory buildings much of the pdr lands are low are rise development. That is okay. I was hoping that in the motion we could include the suggestion of the criteria to for the commission to consider. Just with the questions and comments by commissioner imperial and moore. Had me thinking more about the replacement of pdr. So i want to just put this out there. Okay. Maker of the motion open to adding a suggestion that the board consider an additional criteria . Yes. I have a question for staff. Does the board do what we do consider it with the legislation before it adopts in. Criteria to come back versus to practice. You are looking at geographic equity where are they located. Are they equally sdrnlted across the city. That is broader. So mrs. Rogers said you can consider that i note that the Zoning Districts where this is conditionally permitted tend to be geographically distributed. C2 and pdr that does in the mean they will come back they will be proposed equal low in the districts. You can add that as a potential condition. Criteria. What ofst language you like to propose . In the projects come different commission, to include geographic equity as a consideration of approval. I think it would be geographic equity of the distribution. The process i see this and i see that as we get more projects before us, if there is an analysis saying, now this is here like our cannabis legislation. We are seeing where they are as time goes on instead of where is this one located we are seeing the distribution as we anticipate more of them. That is i dont know if it is a criteria seems like a point analysis. Wonder how we phrase that . The impelementation perspectist first mrukz see i dont know how we will analyze direct your attention for number one and may be not 2. What we could do if this helpful is we could include a mapful so when you get packets. Time guess on you see where the dots are playing out and may be a certain mass you hit a moment you say, hey. You know can we take a look where they are landing and you can propose differing legislation. We can build a story through that geographic representation it may be easier. Because it is somehow hitting that threshold unlike cannabis that has a strict. I think make sure we might get to the point we say we cant approve there are many concentrated in this area we will approve another somewhere else because it is not. The typical cu include necessary and desirable. There are perspectives if there is a mass and geography we dont need additional you leverage the criteria it say this is no longer necessary and desirable at this location for this proposal because of this monopoly we see in front of us that are concentrating. We have to the in our Kit Available and it it is may be on us to make sure we give the data as the projects come forward you have can have the conversationless. Wade, Transportation Team manager. Were touchod 2 of the 3 points the last point i will make the geographic equity. I think a point for analysis there is a difference where the site is located and the trips that are generated versus who uses the service. The latter may be harder given when we said where the terrorisms go. Fleet charging may be distributed does not mean the users are distributed throughout the staechl something we consider as we consider cites over time yoochl mr. Ylang. Thank you. I wanted to add i think the issues that staff brought upper very helpful in terms of both the discretion the commission has under 303. And also as a matter of process. I want to be clear what the commission is doing or plan to do. To be clear if you are proposing to let board include a geographic criteria, that they could then introduce at land use, but not coming back here. Or if you want to see and to be very clear in your motion. If you do include a geographic consideration that you as a commission would weigh in on that policy. I would be satisfy federal there is a way to make noted of our upon concern about geographic distribution as a commission we want staff to bring that to us each time and cumulatively as we make action. I. To weigh inform i think the intent of geographic equity segood sends this over with this recommendation. I think if the board of supervisors or the writeers of the legislation thought they would go to plans and only determine this may be too many i think is exact low where we leave ourselves vulnerable. We all know that charging stationless will be attracted to inexpensive land and pdr land is far less. In downtown locations. Im concerned the impact will be weighted toward pdr yours if you know where they are. For this reign reason im hesitant, i like the idea of geographic equity tow use that as something to send long for the board of supervisors without us having proper guidance. I have confidence in the staff it would bring a lot of perhaps more conversation in the Planning Commission and how we really analyze this. Put to the board the discussion about the geographic equity as part of a recommendation. However it would come become to planning is that what i understand in terms of us . In you are clear in your motion that you are concerned about this issue, you would like to see future legislation. May be kg suggest the board introduce future legislation that addresses the issues you are not recommending this you are recommendation does in the include the any future amendments at this time. Related geographic. Good idea in the future and the other option to say, we actually recommend it with the staffs maams and further amendment by this body to say x, y or z is when we give language for today. Commissioner diamond. Id like to keep my motion the way it was. Go with the staffs recommendation i feel like this issue. Geographic is one naneeds to be considered over time it is important i agree with the concern feels like we have a tool in 303 to deal with it initially. And as we see what happens we may want to propose legislation outside we are the ones seeing the case. Rather than the board develop it on its own at this point in time. I like to stick with the original motion which is staffs recommendation. With the various changes staff proposed i think as we do this applications we say may be one or two interested parties will learn from those and i think also be getting not when we need in the statute but what information and data we need to receive to evaluate the proposal can be done outside of changing the legislation and can be practice in terms of how we process the applications. I upon dont see other commissioner hands. Indeed. Commissioners there is a motion nahas been seconded to approve, commissioner braun. Why aye commissioner ruiz. No. Commissioner diamond. Aye commissioner imperial no commissioner koppel. Aye. Commissioner moore. No. And president tanner aye that motion passes 4 of this 3 with commissioners ruiz, improll and moore against. Commissioners that will place us offol item 7. Case 201900 four 4879 the water front Resilience Program this is an informational presentation. Good afternoon, commissioners. President tanner. Lilly planning staff. We are happy to be here to present an over view of the water Front Program. Im joined by our form are planning colleague adam barrett now at the port leading this work. The Planning Department engaged with the program participating in conversations and meeting with focus around land use. Preservation, urban design, water front access and equity the department and commission had a history with addressing Climate Change and Sea Level Rise. I am new to the topic im joined by an maria roj and Danielle Knoll could not be here today. Our work including working with agencies to understand the Science Behind Sea Level Rise. We review large projects to ensure they are a part of the project like mission rock and pier 70. And then leading Neighborhood Strategies the department expanded the review to look at a broad are neighborhood adamtation strategy. Mindful to lead with equity started with the first plan in 2019. And that strategy was before you in june of last year. The water Front Program brought in the scope to include all port property. As you will hear more today this has implication for public and private land and economy and connection to the water. I hand it over to adam and available to answer questions. Good afternoon. Adam barrett port of San Francisco waterfront Resilience Program. Great to be before you to talk about the work we are doing with the program to develop draft waterfront strategies the focus of todays presentation. Ir will talk through riskless we are facing what we dwo through the programs when we heard the last 5 plus years of community out reach. And then walk through what the strategy are before next steps. We developed the 7 water front strategies. Throughin are Agency Process involving planning and other agency and building on the 5 years of engage and rolling them out for Public Feedback with a goal of working toward a preferred draft Adaptation Plan by next summer of 23. I mentioned we working with Partner Agency urndz climated assess initiative. Planning, sfmta, puc, public works and resilience and capital planning. Partner with the u. S. Army of engineers on the San Francisco waterfront flood study. On a planning study could lead to significant federal funding if a project is recommended and approved by u. S. Congress. To gentleman quickly through risks we know too well. We see Climate Change already and here in San Francisco we are dealing with the seismic risks that are always present and also coastal flood and inland flooding we see today. We will be exacerbated over time sea levels rise and storms become more extreme this shoes the presettlement western settlement of the city. And what the citys shore line looked like with coves and inlets. Different creek watersheds and coming down and the last 2 Centuries Development that shore line has been fill in the to the shore line we have today. The lowest loyaling areas of the city and sea levels rise if we did not adopt shore line we would see the areas of fit be the areas that are dealing with the coastal flooding over time because those other low lying creek mouth areas. Of and so when we talk about our adoptation how do we adopt to the Sea Level Rise and hazards . We need to deal with coastal and inland flooding behind whatever coastal flood defense structure we build as wella the seismic risks. Any strategy as a city will address all 3 of these. The water Front Program was created to take actions to reduce the seismic and climate hazards creating a vibrant water front. This is the project area. We are looking at the port shore line jurisdiction. Really this is protecting alegality of the area behind the areas i will show in a minute. And this is stretching from the park up to aquatic park and purposes of planning we divide third degree to 3 areas based on different characteristic of land use and infrastructure and neighborhoods. The embarcadero, Mission Creek come mission bay area. There are lots of projects outside of this area in the city shore line that are building in adoptations to Sea Level Rise in their projectless the Major Development projects. Shipyard and candlestick frequent the ingrand shore line park they are awful all building Sea Level Rise. Building on years of public out roach when we heard is a strong focus on life safety and emergency response. Prioritize being protecting assetses that are loved. By the community and most important to the city as a whole and putting people first. We really heard openness from people to think big and creative solutions. And as well as concerns the costs and feasibility and the disruption impacts and things like that. Some of the other key components we heard and intgreat in the off the strategies is an opportunity to intgreat Nature Based Solutions and hab tam at that time in the strategies. Water front access and open space across the waterfront and racial and social equity and he environmental justice. What we are consider when we talk about the draft waterfront strategies what they are is a combination of construction and policy measures. Where, when is how high do we build the flood defense am what measures do we use. Whether it is sea walls, levie bulls and the boles changes that come with it. Whether planning or Building Code requirements. Disaster Warning System or land use changes. All of this together makes update water front strategies. We framed our strategies around the 4 driving questions what upon if we did nothing to adoptful what if we adopted by flood proofing and building only without building flood structureless. What if we adopted a lower rate of Sea Level Rise and when if we adopted to address a hire rate consistent with state guidance. We have 7 strategiesil walk through quick loam representing a variety of approaches to addressing these questions. What we will do the next mont is take the 7 strategies. Holding hearings. Public out reach. Getting feedback and Technical Evaluation along with Army Engineers cost and benefit analysis. And working on a hybrid preferred plan that will then become our draft water front dapation plan and more out reach and refine thwack along the wachl after that ceqa analysis, Engineering Design until we get to a final project. I gallon throughout 7 strategies. For each we have 2 time horizons for planning purposes a 2040 mid term adaptation and 20 upon 90 longer term horizon. For each intention is to protect the city the next 50 years. The a damation you do in 2040 of the work until 2090. This is showing the levels of Sea Level Rise we would build to. We look at strategy c and d. In the mid term horizon built to adapt to 11 2 feet of Sea Level Rise and d it is longterm up to 3 and a half feet. The strategy e, f and g a higher level of rise 31 2 feet of Sea Level Rise by 2040 and 7 feet by 2090 and additional height to deal with storm surge and tidal flooding. Gi will talk through the strategy fist now. A is the no action. Sthchl a point of comparison for cost and benefits for the other strategies. B is the army calls the nonstructural move people away from the risk using measures flood proofingor land use change. And allowing the water go where it notes. You would not build a defense structure this. Is required throughout army process as a point of comparison for cost and benefits of building a flood structure. Here are examples. In i picture from germany of floodable public space flood prove or elevate buildings. Have emergency warning suggests. C sdpraesz fooding up to 1 and a half feet. Focus on the lowest lying areas of the city. The ferry build and Mission Creek. It would tie in to the approved and planned and under construction develop the mission roshg and pier 70. Strategy d is similar to c except a strategy were foundation to be adapted over time and more seismic benefits. And in 2040 it would look the same as strategy c. But in 2090 elevateed 31 2 feet of Sea Level Rise. Over time you see well, how fast the sea level rising and understand how high you need to build it to. I will talk about the 3 higher level curves Sea Level Rise. Strategy e, protect the water front as it is today adapting the existing shore line responding to Public Comment keeping land use and infrastructure in place as they are today. And you see, with the green line this would build a coastal flood defense around the existing shore line including the creek inlets. It would be built to 3 and a half feet of Sea Level Rise. Require a couple things, require infrastructure to pump the inland storm water over this new coastal flood defense. Significant infrastructure there and require raising the bridge and conjecturing road and transit over the creeks because the water will flow under there. In 2090 elevateed, dap 7 feet of Sea Level Rise and need for additional pumping infrastructure. I will walk through vignette this is is an opportunity to see how all of the strategies incorporate water front access, recreation and open space had is the creek with the 2 time frames of elevation. This is lookings Mission Creek and this embarcadero where this would fill in a bit of the bay under the existing buildings and require regrading of the entire embarcadero. Strategy f, would manage the water create an active system relying on machinery in pumps of tidal gates. In 2040 it looks similar to strategy e with a couple exceptions the main one being tidal gates at inlets to Mission Creek and managed to control the flow of tidal waters and storm waters. And this would mean you dont have to raise the bridges or the shore line in the portions of the creekings. It would limit your ability to do natural happen at that time and hiderology and maintenance. In 2090 it would be elevateed adapt to 7 feet of Sea Level Rise. Move flood defense to illinois street anything on the east side would require its own set of adaptation and accommodations the projects pier 70 and potrero power station are doing today. Examples of that. Along the creek not elevated but need a hardened shore line on the edge of the creek. And mission bay could be advanced in the bay with will pay bust bay fill on will create space for happen at that time and b bark further bay ward to provide more fill but not require as much disruption on the embarcadero that is a trade off along of the embarcadero. And finally strategy gashing, more about alining with an am natural watershed. Working with the natural flood patterns and existing watersheds to move building and infrastructure in other areas away from the flooding zone in the highest risk and lowest lying areas. You see it looks similar you would they all look similar in 2040 you are buying time to make the big are changes. But in 2090 you have significant changes to the urban fabric of sudden fran. In mission bay transform it to a floodable district with buildings and elevated streets and walk ways and transit and it is creek over you know several decades talking about the pdr areas require business and job and pdr relocation but allow for a natural condition that you are not managing against. Here sorry this would like like. Changed and trans formed. And a wetland and open water concept. Same in maigz mission bay the land use there but flood proofed and embarcadero this would be raising the shore line where it is today instead of filling the bay requiring narrowing of regrading of the entirety. Embarcadero. With this, we are under going significant can public out reach. In person open house left night at Southeast Community facility. A lot of community workshops. Focus groups and we have digital materials and the website check them out. And join our public out reach and engagement i will ends and happy to take questions. Thank you. Okay. That concludes open up Public Comment. Member this is is your opportunity to address the commission on this informational item. If you notoriety chambers come forward. If you are call nothing remote press star 3. Seeing no requests to speak Public Comment is closed and this informational matter is before you. I will thank staff good to see you back. Thank you for joining us a lot of tremendous work. I will say it sounds scare and he expensive. [laughter]. Really expensive. So we have to do something and figuring out what to do and how to do is no time like now. We can get ready. 2040 and 2090 and 2140 . We were laughing. Start with commissioner comments from commissioner braun. Thank you very much. And thank you for the great work done on this it is important work for San Francisco i have questions regarding process. Going forward from here. So, it looks like there is commune engagement happening over the next couple months. But now it sounds like there has not been the deep are analysis of costs and benefits and even the analysis of equity impacts of the different alternatives. Is that right . And chldz that happen and thats a great question. All of that is in the phase we are coming up against now that we have some ideas of different strategies we will do the both public out reach and the xoft benefit analysis, there are you know the they are require toed look at the comprehensive benefits includes social, environment at and economic benefits. A new space for them to be in temperature is great. There may be things we care about as a city that go beyond the federal interests. We will evaluate this. And we will be coming back out with both costs, analysis and evaluation of benefits and working on an equity evaluation frak work and assess am of the strategies we dont have the now but we will use that to build and local low preferred strategy employing bring that down and testing you know when other criteria, evaluation and metrics we are looking at we have an equity working group. Planning staff on this group and port and other equity practical throughout the city that is next spring. Okay. The question for me is, what00 oomph what is the base for the stake holder input for making providing input and feedback on different alternatives. I recognize time wise it is hard to have analysis done you need the other process moving forward, is there a sense of what stake holer input would shape the determination of what to look at. How does this work . It is i think what we are we are not gog it will not be we move forward with strategy e or c. Tell be we will hear from the public these other thingless we like and going to try to use those to say, we are building a strategy that meets those goals. They all really try to maximize water front access and have difference in terms of land use. There are we will have to hear when people think about whether fallos individual or motor city doing federal gentleman doing a unified structure. There are trade off there is. Each neighborhoods they are neighborhood specific out reach have unique trade offs we discuss in depth than the presentation today. And 2 more questions. One is to this sounds expensive. And im curious it is hard to project out funding and financing sources for the longterm actions im curious how specific does this get in terms of thinking about funding and financing and when does that really happen in the process . Tell being a highly expense itch project and one area in the state and the nation where we are having to make coastal adaptations. Thinking globalally it is a huge [inaudible]. But i think in terms of our 7 miles here, you know that is per of the reason for working with the army corpse they we are splitting the costs with the federal government on this planning study if there is a project in meets the benefit cost ratios recommended to congress for funding then the federal gentleman criminality 2 thirds of this cost what that project is defined as. That could be a hugely significant number. Anything we want to do beyond this we have to find 100 . Thats how it works. We need to have conversations about other local sources the port has fudding from the 2018 prop asea wall bond. Which is like a down payment on all of this. That was 425 million dollars. Thootsdz going to the early seismic projectless. It is a big number we are talking b. We dont know what it is yet. Understandable. My last question is a good segue, the what extent is this connecting with other efforts throughout the bay to address Sea Level Rise. Every part of the bay has an effort under way on this. How do they come together we have been working with the bay conversation and Development Commission they have the bay adapt platform. They are working on this and looking putting together a sort of funding strategy and understanding of the cost need from all the counties. The different adaptation projects that different jurisdictions around the bay have. To identify funding need and principleless. And criptoryia huwe do this up and down the bay. We are cord nay with them on that effort. They are for how there is coordination on this stuff. Thank you very much. Upon the adaptation projects what other jurisdictions that the withins in Hunters Point ship yard which jurisdiction are they belong to and what it it is matter of a question of process as well in terms how we work the port work with other jurisdictions went San Francisco and is that like fluid strategy or you know . Um yea temperature is about who the shore line. Has ownership jurisdiction overnight shore line the ports jurisdiction ends at the park. Rec p has yours to the nerth and south. Ocii is the Jurisdictional Authority over the Hunters Point, candlestick Redevelopment Area and other state and federal agencies as well. That have National Parks and state parks. It verse depending where you are. We are trying to coordinate with on either side developing the out line of the study so it tie in Higher Ground in either area in india basin it is higher and aquatic park fortmason there thank you very much. Thank you for all the work commissioner koppel we are paying the process for ocean and bayviews here . Im picking which strategies are not realistic. We might lands on a hybrid of a couple of them because i think we got 2 things going on. We need to quote, hold it is line and put up something that protects us and over time we dont know what will happen and slowly tell happen we need to be adaptable. Job security for us. This is [laughter]. Really intense. Waters on 3 side this is is a lot of land. Still interested it hear what everyone thinks realize the importance of this topic. Commissioner moore. I would be curious what form ceqa examine impacts no matter what you do the impacts are phenomenonal if ceqa was the tool for evaluating this project. It will be one impacks and another like sand and dont like the [inaudible] of the city will are [inaudible] strong leadership wonder as it whether or not [inaudible] you have all looked [inaudible] doing [inaudible] regarding the flooding and rising sea level there we have a machinery [inaudible] [echo] about 3 feet and ultimately configations allow it to go up to 7 feet. Or more. 9. 8 feet. Nominal piece of machinery i wonder if you have looked at that . I did in the hear the question would you mind repeating. Im sorry thats hard im speaking over the phone. Have you looked at the Fire Protection measures that have been built for [inaudible] [inaudible] and ose. That is a piece of machinery that helps with flood protection currently it is protection at 3. 5 feet Sea Level Rise and adjustable to up to 7 feet by 2090 . The concept there is a tidal gate. It existed around there are examples from the 70s and such. But more recently in the netherlands they are management canals and would turn the creek inlets to canalless. They would be built as you said to the address up to speven feet of Sea Level Rise. Would be sort of turning those channels in canal and adding new canals on street come open space in mission bay if Additional Space was needed for storage. Thats the concept. It come from the netherlands there. Interesting it hear you are seeing the ability to model in your scenario would we be able to see the schedule of your meetings and interesting to participate and listen. What the public thinks about the subject matter . Yes. All the meetings are up on our website, sfport. Com we have a number of Community Meetings walking tours coming up. Thank you. That is recommend. Thank you. Question for you, understand a bit about the timing and what state and federal guidance the 2040 would we want to have in place measures to protect against the 31 2 foot by 2040. Seems very soon. And then what the duration of the study and finding the money for impelement happening the measures we do identify that could be supported. Could up share the time lines. The Sea Level Rise when we need to be prepared this is based on the state level the higher are based on the state level guidance the idea something you built in 2040 need to last you have another generation or 2. And these 2040 and 2090 nshs for planning purposes. The. Idea that the stealed go on for 3 more years. Complete in the 2025. And then could be part of a congressional allocation in 2026. Would then be designed and engineering and could be built starting in the 2030s so it is prescriptional by 2040 that is where we are and that build to that if we chosey higher level then built to that adaptation up to 31 2 feet throughout end of the century. That is the states guidance for what is call aid one and twop00 chance events. It is unpredict annual how fast sea level will rise. You showed the map where the port is divide in the 3 areas could each have a different strategy depenning on the hiderology or one chosen for each of the 3 across the board. We will make come match. And even within the 3 areas we mix and match. Commissioner koppels point about need to hold the line and also you know adapt and think about you know even in board and longterm future will be important. Thank you. This is focussed on eastern and northeastern waterfront. I know we a number of months ago had a presently egg on the Western Water front and the occurrence and work done on infrastructure and the great highway. Does that mean weep dont have to worry it is a need to look at northern water front a lot is under federal jurisdiction there are pieces on rec and park department. Director city wide policy. We need to look at the water front. Of course. Commissioner and i think what lilly mention side trough the first look the city did is lead with equity and he starting with the croak that was the beginning this is the next phase there will be more and i think i was appreciative of the series of how the ports waterfront changed overnight years. Ecstasy are change and growing and San Francisco is a bit oust practice of you in we are not changing the water front the water front is changing toward us this is know opportunity for you to think about what exciting future we want to envision. We know there will be change and we have an opportunity to make a better water front for the staechl i think on that front im excited about the possibilities of going from here. Thank you for this hopeful note. I dont see other comments or questions from commissioners again great work. Really tremendous. And look forward to the events and you said 2025 and 26 get the money. Something to look forward to and keep us busy. Thank you very much. Okay. That concludes deliberation on that matter we and move to items before you call it we will take a 5 million break. Welcome become to the sudden front Planning Commission hearing for thursday november 10, 2022. Commissioners we left off on the regular calendar. For items 8b and c8a with drawn for 202100 within 922 dp 3150 california street. You will consider the c u za will consider request for variances. Joy know commissioner diamond has a disclosure . Okay. I have several disclosures i need to make before we start this item the first is this my 2 old are children are uhs, patrols graduated in 200 sick and 8, 14 and 16 year ago. Im a past board member of University High school the years 2005 to 200pate. Not involved in negotiations related this property. And third one of the consultants on project working with uhs on entitle am system someone who i have worked with and are inspect capacities on i number of nonprofits in the community. Not related this project. We both sit on a nonprofit board together which is not related this project over the course of that work we have become friends but 91 of these 3 yours will have impact on my ability to assess this project neutraly. Thank you. Upon thank you. Commissioner. Good afternoon, michael lee from Environmental Planning. More mary woods gives her presently egg i would like to discuss the recent event for thes environmental veal. Appeal was with drawnful today the Environmental Review officer signed and issued the declaration it is now considered final. The version of the mitt gauted negative declaration was oun upon signed pending the appeal hear thanksgiving will not be held. Im here to provide replacement pages for the negative declaration and these include the signature and minor revisions to the document that dont change conclusionless. With these replace am pafrjs you have the final mitigated declaration and proceed 8b and c. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon president tan and members of the commission. Marchy woods of Planning Division the applicant University High school is seeks c u authorization to establish a new School Campus. It will be their fifth campus. They operate 4 campuses out of 365 jackson, 3150 washington street, 3185 washington street and 3220 sacramento street. The schools proposal will include the following; demolition of the existing 2 store of commercial office space. And surface parking lot and construction of a new, 3 story over basement 40 foot tall, 46, 300 square foot educational building. The building will contain a mix of class and labs, student center, athletic facilities. Foodservice faculty and he maintenance and administrative offices. Tht will include officer terrace at the level 3 and the roof top awai ray panels. The concern student population is 410. The max that the school is prosecute posing is 550. Students. The project requires cu authorization for lot size over 10,000. Use sides over 4,000 square feet. Educational use on second and 30 levels and the modificationast approved cu authorization motion number 19066, to increase the School Campus enroll freshman 410 it 550 students. The project will need variances from the rear yard and class 2 parking provision. As part of the with drawl of the appeal, the sponsor agreed to include previously imposed conscience to be reinstated in the concern c u authorization. Of a copy of passed out by the Commission Secretary for your information. Additionally, as part of this hand out, staff is prosecute posing additional conditions to address some of the other issues neighbor brought up. Relate the to school events. And also issues raise the by the laurel inn a hotel. The recommendation is it approve the project with conditions and for your consideration proposed conscience which you are included in the motion. This concludes my sum row. Im happy to answer questions. Thank you. You have 5 minutes. My name is matt im San Francisco University High school. On behalf of teachers and 450 concern students and board of trustees i know how excited we are to be before you today. As we look to bell a modern belling. Our new front do door a major muni corridor and a more accessible location for students from across the city in the region. As you will see from the slide University Campus spanning buildings and facilities. Academic belling on jackson, washington and sacramento streets and field like for sports in the presidio. Here are photographs. You will see from the slide, we have 450 students at the school. 58 self identify as students of color and provide Financial Assistance to 20 of studentses from middle schools and 54 zip codes and 32 languages spoken in the homes. We expect them to consider and exceed with the new building. I want to thank our planner mary woods and neighbors that participates in the planning process. Imagining a school this drew upon the variety and resource of San Francisco and that developed creative, capable and stoeshl responsible leaders. And head of school i believe that the addition of new student in a new building buildos the vision and allows the university to grow and attract the group of students from diverse backgrounds. I turn over to the architect billety. I will available for questions should you have any. Thank you for your time today. President tanner and commissioners. Architects for the project. I wanted birch start i want to mention that last slide referred to the over 20 different meetings we had with neighbors and with the Community Leaders about this project the last 2 years. So, i think what i like to do now is talk about the project. Which we are excited to talk about today. Which is a new zero net energy educational environment that will show how we live and learn in the 21st century the site is a 1950s era Shopping Center. Which has a Service Parking lot and plan to build the foergz everportion of california the lower image here is a mix of ground floor retail and residential spaces and we have been careful to put our new building in the context. Next, please. You see in the site plan that the building filless the site temperature is an infill urban site. We are at or below the height limit and paid attention it maintaining the views mogul to the west across the site and we have asked for 3 variances. 2 relate to the rear yard and one bike parking. This is i diagram showing the bell suggest organized. It is a Large Community room and gym which is a clad on the front by an area of Student Commons facing the street on the top lavatory and studios in the low are left part of the diagram the fact this building will have provide off the energy on site and Net Zero Energy project this is the view of the street view on california street and you hear more about how we design today from my colleague aaron. Good afternoon Aaron Thornton may we have 2 minutes to conclude the presentation there. We can ask follow up questions perhaps. Commissioners have questions now about the design they want to hear b. I think we were able to look at the drawing its is througho and appreciate that if we have questions after Public Comment we will ask to you come back. Thank you very good take Public Comment. Member this is is your opportunity to address on this matter. If you notoriety chambers come forward and lineup. If you are calling remote press story 3 or raise your hand via web ex thank you for the opportunity for comments today. Im road howard. Full name road rigo j. Howard i dont usually attend planning meeting this is the first one i have attended. So, im here because i thank you matter is important. And because i have an emotional interests and concerns about the proposal. My interests are im a member of the neighborhood. I own an apartment in the neighborhood. Roughly halfway 2 blocks away from the proposed new project to the old campus the original. Im parent to father of 2 daughter who is went to uh circumstance. Great school they had a wonderful experience. They are well launched in their adult lives now as a result of experiences they had. Part of my concern the major concern i have when i first read about it was that it is a large expansion. Of the student body. Too large. I have have not read but assume this expansion will of the stewart build by an expansion of the fact faculty and he staff. So im supportive of the school. And support would support some increase. Everyone who spoke with my dwaurts about this get their reactions. What do you think of an expansion this large. They shared my concerns. I think it it is just too much 140 students more students some additional number of faculty and staff. And it is a small neighborhood. Small streets. Residential. This it is a large increase and the number of people that will be in the neighborhood passing through the neighborhood. Transportation. Cars and i realize this is does put a building on california street. Thats favorable but legal be a lot of traffic the students at the new kauchls are not at the new campus and going up and down the hill to the existing buildings of the campus. I wonder how the neighborhood is going to accommodate this increase. So, i would ask the commission to consider this very carefully and think hard about what is being done to mittedigate the impact of the expansion on the neighborhood on a very sensitive neighborhood a small neighborhood. Perhaps place conditions on the increase. May be a phased increase in the number of students see how it plays out over time that is your time. Sir you did not hear me thats your time. Thank you very much for your consideration. Good afternoon im Steve Mitchell my wife and i own a victorian at 3231 sacramento street unfortunately is right behind the proposed project at 3150 california. Our building consists of 7 psychotherapy offices one by my wife. The 6, 4 of the 6 are facing california street and are approximately 75 feet away from what could be a demolition construction site. It is in the surprisingly the 4 attentives said tell be impossible to cubing therapy sessions once the project gets under way. The past year, uhs Board Members, architects, the previous head of school and representatives from Community Equity builder toured our belling 4 times. They have taken pictures inside and outside. They taken measure amless. I given the lease terms of the 4 affected offices. They told me uhsments to be a Good Neighbor but all i received from the Good Neighbor thus for is a nasty letter from their attorney telling mow to mow to go away. My wife and i are in our 60 and fighting city hall is in the per of our bucket list neither Collateral Damage with arms race of high schools. My wife practiced in our building since 1998. We oppose the cu authorization not just because tell put us out of busy but the structure is wildly out of character. With anything in the neighborhood and change the character of that neighborhood forever. Thank you. Good afternoon im ted bartlett a prud alump night of University High school. Amazing how fast time flown by. There were 90 kids in our class and had our 35th reunion this spring and 60 came. University high school is an important part of my life. I have a senior in high school there now and she loves temperature University High school is a great member of the San Francisco community. Supportive as the head of school expressed diverse and Financial Aid and develops educates contributing members of our community. Im in favor of this project. Of the c u is appropriate. For what is now a pet food store and parking lot in a busy street with an electric bus and you will hear from others members of our community i think there is an issue with not an issue financing is approved and we are headed recession it would be person and valuable time to build this. It is good for San Francisco. It is good for the community and i understand this the neighbors occurrence. But this is a very vibrant world class city and appropriate use of urban site. Thank you very much. Thanks to the commissioner for grour time im roger raised my 3 kids in the city all attends schools in the city. The schools care and inquiry and its commune the culture is amazing. It has been an amazing experience. I think the school around for 50 years. But in the next 50 years this school needs to be up grid exclude need to expand to enable and accommodate more kids who want that educational responsible. The city has grown. [inaudible] have to reach out further. That is the commitment from uhs. In terms of facilities the gym was small an old autogarage and you know the ceiling is. It was fine for schools in 77s this is the 2020s this will be around for another 50 years. Im in support. Great project. The site you go by you know the site is delapidated it is great accomplice for the school and the community. Thank you. Clayton i graduated from University High school in 200 now my 7s year on the board and chair of buildings and grounds. I came in 7 years ago as a new board member and worked with 100 plus Board Members now. Working toward today and hopefully summer is coming the kruck project im here to say how much commune input go in. There is involvement from parents. And getting to the point you build this is testament to a lot of strong interests in getting this done. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time i have been a neighbor trustee, parent, Community Member for 20 years im holly i live in the neighborhood. Y witnessed the careful oversight of the school and care manages the local San Francisco neighborhood relationships. Im excite when a community is making a commitment examine this is i significant commitment and victim in the future. A commitment to widen the space in the city to learn and grow. If sillities designed teach 21 century math and science it is called San Francisco University High school understands the issues specific it our city. I urge the Planning Commission to approve the c u application come invest in San Franciscos future. Thank you. No other members in the chambers, wish to speak we will go to remote callers. When you hear your line is unmuted that is your indication to speak. Good afternoon rolled to the california street by University High school im kate i live at 3118 washington. A few doors down from uhs. There are 2 buildingos my block. I oppose increase in enrollment this is due to the already traffic and parking conscience caused by families. Our street is impacted by the traffic by drop offs and pick up us. It is impossible in the afternoon and mornings bring a steady stream of cars our driveway are also block in the the afternoon sometimes triple parked. I often go knock on the window of one vehicle to ask them to move after they ignore my honk third degree is unsafe for me. Parents care givers are rude in response in questions to move cars in the morning they use my driveway as white zones 8 cars stop in the front of my house to allow students to get out. White zone in the school was open and unused. Parking has been impacted last week 2 employees parked. And i told [inaudible] a student parkod our block and [inaudible] [reading very fast]. The increased number. Students among the building that make up their campus the enroll am this is hard to believe given they cant manage the enroll am impact. We have not heard how they will mitigate the increase. Not engaged us at all. No direct engage am. Require uhs aadditional parking before a new building and postpone the decision on enroll am increase until cocreates a plan with effective neighbors mitigate impockets on traffic and parking. Thank you for listening. Jury room helo this william. I sent a letter to the commission yesterday. Raising issues we have the primary one i wanted talk about are the temp refer construction impacts the hotel guests. I state instead letter, the significant amount guesters medical patients getting to treatment. Kaiser and seeking quiet time under going the treatment. One other i wanted mention is this in the hotel world, quiet time is considered before 10 a. M. Our request limiting we expect we get complaints we understand this given the inevitable construction noise. I know this a client and the sponsor did meet this morning and that may be part of the conscience perhaps that mary referenced. Some were perhaps limiting some of the hours and the noiseiest per of the construction during those periods and also perhaps during the Morning Hours trying to dot deconstruction of noisy activities away from the [inaudible]. We appreciate any conscience help minimize the construction impactless. Thank you very much. Hello. President tan and the Planning Commission this is alec perkins im a neighbor of uSf High School ape pavenlt of the school and an owner of a commercial building close to the site. Thank you for taking the time to listen to community input. I want to speak today as a parent, and a neighbor. For the majority of the last 30 years i lived within 3 blocks of the school and the building site until i sought impact the school had on the community over 30 year period. I witnessed how considerate the school has been the last many decades i found that the stounts to be kind and respectful and the community remarkable it is part of the reason we decided to couple years ago to send our kids there. The cool goes out of the way to treat neighbors well. Given the nature of the site and the neighborhood it is woven throughout a residential neighborhood and has been for decades. I think the Administration Never without incident but has been aware of the impacts on the neighborhood and attempting to be considerate. Now this we have children at the school i seen this respect for the neighbors. Kids are good about moving quiet 3 throughout residential streets. They are 99 no construction problems. I see sometimes there is a car or 2. But polite. Store ordinance and residents and i see this as a positive for the neighborhood. I would like to say being a neighbor and parent i wanted speak as a former teacher in the district for several years a worked at that you recallgood Marshall High School and an Organization Work to improve education for low income families and aware that San Francisco is in need of expanded high quality Educational Opportunities for children. University providing a critical. Keeping diverse family in San Francisco. Expanding the campus to me is an important endeavour and incoming enroll ams are important and including expanding for diverse students and families. And it it is creating i think a world class center. Stem learning area. Place for team work i think all of us love the city. Lastly i want to say im excited about the space can be. That is your time. Okay thank you very much. Appreciate it. Last call for Public Comment. In the chambers. Seeing no questions to speak. When you hear your line is unmuted begin speaking. Okay well go to the next caller. Im alexander a senior at uhs i was leading a tour and the last stop on the floor is blue [inaudible] where we talk about why we chose our high school. In front. A nervous eighth grader i was struggling to think of i reason why i had chosen uhs. Electric community and athletic excellence drought me there more than other high schools. Uhs taught mow to be an opportunity. Citizen and friend. Vital in my [inaudible] as a person. I pursue topic im interested in a behavioral economic inspect saturdays or semester project in dhiena the Educational Resources i have rival boost best in the country. The california campus will make this education and Resources Available and accessible to more students not only school will let in more and at this time be accessible to the city not just kids [inaudible]. I get excite when i had think about the opportunity the new campus will open you will etch thank you for your consideration. I have a third person raising their hand i cant mute them. Kate. Using web exi cant unmute you. Go back to the first caller. Hi. Them is tom. Im parent of uhs ninth grader. Im a professor in architectial history and theory at stan ford and form are National Board mfbt break through collaborative am i want to thank the commission for taking time to before this exciting project. Exitmented to speak as an architectural historian and form are board member this is a unique opportunity for San Francisco to benefit from upon wonderful institution moving closer to the california street corridor. The vol uchlt building matches the volume of buildings long this corridor especially navarpo inn and the jewish commune center. It draws the 41 doofrt high school to the california street corridor and moves cars and individuals out of the neighborhood benefitting near by neighbors. Also by being near a main transportation corridor served boy buses and other forms of Public Transportation. It allows students that come to University High school every summer with the break through collaborative. Which benefits high achieving, under served children and has a nationally recognized teach upper training program. And this Program Began at University High school is now nationwide in 44 cities. And this is the type of thing that weepment to not in our city. And moving again the front door of the high school closer to the california street corridor will allow all economic background to access the school during of the year and summer twhiem this program for our high achieving under served children is function at uhs in the sum upper. Thank you for your time. Im jack, im a senior at University High school. And university is really home for middle east and many others. The problem is it is not big enough. When im in the classroom and doing my home work and get knocks on the door from urgs doing the same it is hard for me i appreciate a bigger [inaudible] another thing the [inaudible] at University High school we have a makers lab on the campus. Where we have access to laze are, and 3d printers. [inaudible] at the New California campus it will have more maker space that will allow all 400 or more of the upon students to get involved with. In it [inaudible]. So over all i think the california addition would be great for the schooling and for the surrounding environment. Thank you for your consideration. Hello im julia. Im a concern journal at San Francisco University High school. A place i learn about myself and [inaudible] i found an interest allowed me to serve in Robotics Club it is sxhaul does not have room for collaboration it is e essential in building robot. [echo]. The new location on california street, every day in the morning it is a hasz total get to school. I take Public Transportation and in the i bus this leaves me near uh circumstance the New Buildings valuable for people like me who take Public Transportation it will be near the number one bus. I will arrive on time and not get a tardy. Because was new building close to the bus stopful im not the only person when takes Public Transportation. Otherers have been impacted by the suspension of the number 3 jackson bus this new Building Location is good for future uhs students thank you for listening and your consideration. Im jordan chow im a currently junior attending University High school. I like to thank planning for allowing the public it express thought and feelings. I want to tuck about why this solid be a big success. Uhs brought me variety of tunes supportive teachers [inaudible] and friendships made [inaudible]. Uhs has been grit to me exit appreciate it. Now uhs is an Amazing School it can be better. The low are campus is the old school [inaudible] now having class dloun with no windows. It it is still [inaudible]. The future uhs the new modern classrooms the be a better work environment. The concern gym is great but can only hold so many people. It is hard to accommodate everyone. I play basketball and share the half court with other teachless. Were with the new building tell help with academics and athletics. The future of uhs [inaudible] great for [inaudible] and will the schools future is investing in the 40 of the city. The new building would be wise and urge you to consider it. Thank you. Try to unmute again. I did already speak my hand did in the go down. Thank you. Why thank you. Im Jerry Ken Doe a senior at University High school. I have been luck tow be a part of the communal im on the Basketball Team and we had 55 boys try out for basketball in the small gym we have. We are shoulder to shoulder and execute drills. The plans for the new building include i new gym with 2 practice courts and bloech everies instead of kids sitting on the ground. [inaudible] the school size would increase [inaudible] and kid would impact the social opportunity. I know we are located in the neighborhood of [inaudible] but this building could have a huge impact. A lot of diversity and i think having a new building on california that neighborhoods will enhance the image presentlying inclusive scoot drawing from different areas. I think this building will be an incredible resource. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Last call for Public Comment. Again you need to press story 3 or raise your hand. Seeing no requests to speak. Public comment is closed. And this merit is before you. And the zoning add administrator. Thank you. Commissioner diamond. Thank you to all the speakers. I do have desire to spend time stot proposed conditions on the basket page handed out. Before we do that, there are issues raise third degree i would like to hear more on. I wonder the head of school. Might come forward and talk about the connection between the increase in enrollment and the ability to provide expanded Financial Aid to keep tuition costs under control and pay teacher salaries within community distance of the school . Thank you. You know one of the main motivations for building the now build suggest it increase the number of students. 20 of City Councils receive financial assist analysis. With the current for you 50 increase allowed by planning due to the covid Emergency Declaration 92 students received asuftance with the increase to 550 students they anticipate an increase in Financial Assistance to 1 upon 12 students at the concern levels the dwent students benefit from the enroll. Increase proposed and hire additional teachers 21 teach and ares 4 administrators. We are wong with the board of trustees on a long range Financial Model folk ulgsed on financial sustain ability this building can help us achieve the financial goals one is to pay our teachers a Strong Living wage to afford to live in San Francisco and teach in San Francisco. Weave have an extraordinary faculty the foundations of the school since it was foundd and you heard from students and how much they value relationships with teachers and students and for mow this is the most personal things is to support our faculty so they dot great w they do with students you heard about. Thank you. And commissioners my experience with having been on 2 School Boards one in another city and this one is that will i think i want to you correct me if im long. 80 to 90 from tuition and creates the opportunity to increase ref now and the large are source is teach are salaries the same amount. And that while neighbors may be concerned the increase this enroll am has impact and it does and make sure we are finaling ways to mitigate that it allows to longterm financial stability. My 2 commissioner who went there were teachers in break through program and one of them went on to teaching for america in the south bronx. And i was glad the speaker came on. To talk about t. I think it is one of the most incredible aspects and you can talk about it as head of school in terms of what this expansion the impacts of this expansion on your ability to continue to provide the break through experience both for promising Young Students from all parts of the city as well as the ability for your students to be teachers in the program so the break through clan tit found in the 1978 and the school in 1975 it was acorn upper stone of the founding the program is thriving. Today we have 22uh circumstance students work the after School Program every wednesday and taking a teach are Training Course taught by break through collaborative teachers. It it is a dynamic Summer Program. Tom talked about the futures and unique and i worked with educational Access Programs through my career in education. How focussed on supports future teachers there are College Student who is teach in the Summer Program all around the country row and each teach are has an instructional coach who is not guilty class to give them feed becomes so they get better and improve that is founz agszal to the experience and the they form close connections with the students it it is important in sense of community and vibrant and strongism observed the Program First person this summer e. The sense of community is strong. Impact on the students and teach fanaticulty is extraordinary. The Program Service a need for our school. Talk about the city council in thes break through program. They, amazing studentses. Drawn from all across the city. And they you know one thing sumy we celebrated City Councils and they gave testimony for what the program meant to them it was a peer group who were excited about learning and school and working with teachers who were xoitd and the sense. Communal established in the Summer Program of something many have not upon responsiblesed before p. Might continue as well. And on top of being he were throughout sum upper. Another comment made about the building being out of character with the neighborhood. I disagree with that. It is 2 buildings down from the jcc on california and presidio and kiddie corner forecast Fire Department fun is isnt inproperty for expansion of a school. Where i have occurrence are about how to mitigate the impact of not necessarily in ceqa context in a neighbor to neighbor context of the construction, operation of the school on the neighbors. I ment to start oust with the concerns service a purpose and we want to make sure that building a school does in the create problems for lure everlaurel in. I believe the 2 conscience drafted here makes sense to me. But i would like ton whether or not those 2 conscience have been run by the flaurl and if they are accepting of them. I dont know if it is possible to bring the prosecute councilet on the phone and if uhs is talk whether they discussed the language the conditions. Im participating virtual and i dont have the hand out you are referring to would you read this in the record so i can hear what it is . Thank you. Yea we have 2 conscience. Mrs. Wodz can we in addition to share with commissioner moore make sure she gets the conscience and the both sides television by e mail. I will upon send it now. Thank you. I dont know if we can possible to get him become on the phone . You need to raise his hand i dont know his number. If he is available. There he is. Briefly let me read them so commissioner more can catch up. I will not read the entirety the first is around prescriptional coordination. That prior the start of the project operation they mote with the laurel inn impelement agsz of the drop off and pick up plan and our case materialless and also during operation that the school and inn meet once a year to resolve. And the second condition around construction hours and noise the Construction Contractor limit hours of operation 8 to 5 mondayfriday and then 95 on saturdays and no construction on sunday. With exceptions for time sensitive construction activities. I think du want it hear from the sponsor . Laurel inn may be ask if we has seen the continues. I have not seen the conditions this it is a process it is my client met with the sponsor this morning and i got a debrief and it was the issues i sent me about the annual meeting. And they are fine with sdmachl the construction hours are what in my letter. We agree with that. 8 a. M. To might have machine thereof friday no construction on sunday. Is that consistent. I think that is yea. From my letter. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Project sponsor want to comment on whether or not they can live with these conditions. Certainly. Good afternoon president tan and commissioners im joel russ owners representative kwshging on behalf of University High school. And commissioner diamond, yes we met with the laurel inn pursuant to receipt of the letter. And felt we did dpraesz item 1, which is we offered to change the language and i can see that the new motion does state a date certain which is once a year schedule a meeting for a discussion of how the drop off and pick up events are happening. And we decided should be a minimum of once a year and i noticed here that language which we offered up is not perfect yet we may want to amend it this is we are not just simple low discussing drop off and pick up butt operational behavioral of the building. We will have an opportunity to speak about whether kids, children, students loitering in the street or conversation is bother some or how our out door space is functioning. We will expand it larger should be operations of the building. I dont want to address the request of laurel for the delay in construction starts from 7 a. M. To 8 a. M. And you know we are not unsympathetic to the request and had a very good and detailed conversation did not come to terms with what the laurel would prefer and when we believe uhs and Construction Team need to do. We are familiar with this. We heard it before from other neighbors and as a result of before i spent time on this subject and other projects and the gent cysts 7 a. M. Start did not just happen. And this is a union project. I dont know whether 100 but darn close. And the unions are very specific in what their needs are. These workers of often come from great distance. They do their best to car pool. And one reasons why they need to be on site at 7 a. M. They hop in car at 4 and 5 in the morning and travel. They must avoid rush hour. They should not jamming up our streets at sick in the morning and getting ready for work at 8 a. M. They like to get home to families after a long commute they leave at 3 or 4 in the afternoon. Miss rush hour traffic the construction workys need to work with daylight. And especially this is a very big issue. During this time of the year. Gets bark early. So as a result we have 7 a. M. Start. So when we offered up to the laurel this morning what we would like the land today. Which it is that we recognize that the demolition period and the shoring period where we have a drill rig notoriety laurel inn loud and noise and he disruptive. And so when we offer to do is during the demolition to delay the heavy construction which would be the crunching of the wood frame and the jackhammering of the concrete to start after 8 a. M. The demolition contractor may mobilize but in the start until after 8 a. M. And similarly, we believe that the shoring rig a piece of equip will be drilling holeless. Along laurel and we will not have that operating during that period. We think that the restriction of an 8 a. M. Start once the building walls are up is highly restrictive and not necessary because we have people put nothing will tile and dry wall and studs that is happening in the vol uchlt building. With that, we would like to work with laurel on a sensible delay in construction start. During the heavy duty period where we have demolition and shoring. Our problem is if you want us to adopt today we need language for the condition today. And fiunderstand you correct low the first is easy. We would add an operation of the school. Operation of building the end number one. Number 2, you 3 out a bunch concepts and i dont know if an easy way to modify this is simple low to say, instead of saying the gij of the sentence says construction hours should be limited to 8 a. M. And 5 p. M. That we modify this by put in the phrase during dem demolition and shoring there is this piece and the part i heard him around when the walls are up. What point how do we describe that and to upon i think what i visualize is when there is interior work happening the walls are up the noise will be less disruptive. How do we put this in language enforceable. Is there no work happening in the exterior at this pin. It is large. During excavation period i suggest that we should the nobe notoriety laurel in network during the 7 it 8 a. M. Period. Use the eastern half of the site and you know you know while you in nuanced details on every project is they all have match slab construction has to be pour in the one day. Cot cree pouring is excluded. I do think. One thing i caution im not comfortable with we doll building over here and not here at 8 a. M. Follow it is 8 a. M. It it is 8 a. M. The entire site. 8 amwhen activity is beginning. Clear this time is for the entire site not one portion of the site or the other. Exit agree with you commissioner diamond have more discussion and staff can think of things i want to i think what we have is an all consistent construction schedule for the length of the progress is exceptions of time sensitive activities. After the walls are up under them condition work 8 and end at 5 that is how i read it and im open i heart argument and strikes me could be less restrictive i dont know if we want to spend the time as a commission trying to draft this now. Not a great idea. Im worried well get wrong and laurel inn is not here that is a problem. Let me think and get to the next. We decide how to proceed which it is the condition addressing school events. So my experience is that it is evenings and weekends. With activities at the school that can cause the greatest can be the greatest source of conflict between a school and neighbors. Staff drafted a proposed condition here but it it is missing like the critical hours and the number of events. It is the structure of the condition oppose to the substance of the condition. I dont know if the project experience has review third degree condition and has language that wants to respond ton this . I will say, something around this seeps good to me. In order to reduce conflict. As the project and the school operates. But more than that, i feel like we need to may have been clear with the rules are out front it is clearer to the neighbors and the school what hours, what days. What times. What frequency. And it is clear to the Planning Department. So if there is vague language andure coming back and say thering is a problem we dont know how to enforce this. That statute place you should be exacting about what restrictions you can live with and operate as a school and the neighbors feel makes live tolerable for them thank you. Tara sullivan here with the project teach will as background the project received a c u authorization in 1993. The initial plan unit develop the for the upper campuses. A part of that motion the Planning Commission approve thered it is a done approval that eked down throughout approvals for the sdoo helpful deals. With number of upon events questions of law fies as an event and what time they can occur. Concern motion has language carrying that condition in the currently motion. However, we understand we have been working with neighbors they like to be more specific in the currently motion. The finalings you received today are 2 that conflict. One on the first taij page number 2 we like to have struck we are willing to work on the 1 on the back akin upon to what you prefer with modifications. Where amenable to the school day 8 to 6 prior was 8 to 5. Understand an efblts is 50 or more persons that is continuing from 1993. Not the cap is 24 per year. We would like to talking with it is school arrangements there are 3 per month. So this would be about 30 per school year plus additional 3 for the summer. 36 per year. Of with the caveat that no more thap 24 held at the california campus not to say there will be 24 events there but no more than the original 24 to accommodate our neighbor the agreement we came to with them. We would like 36 events this qualify 50 or more persons and would be no more than 24 at the california campus and add the line. Can i stop you there. 36 feet 24 or 36 plus 24. Not plus the 36. Im clear. 36 of which 24 would ve could be at the california campus there will nod be anything close to 24 at the california campus the other thing include this it is come up. It is from the condition 2, all athletic related games and practices associated with Sf High School are esq. Cluded. They have practices that start at 4 30 and german past 6 oclock we like those games to be excluded from the qualifying definition of an event. Il allow michael here to speak more. We would prefer not to have a distinct between weekday, day and weekday night and weekend day and weekend night there is a cap of 5 events on the weekends. Period. 4 bucket system confusing. School providing an annual report we submitted 1 this year. Question for you the front page does not say anything about a lim of 5 weekend events. If this exists in the prior motion it was not carried forward clearly and this would need to be mou dealt with. Commissioner tanner. We have not done this since i have been on the commission and dont know we are all amenable can we send them out in the hall to work on the language of the conscience who i we take up the next matter and they come up with language of the conscience so we dont have to spend all this time trying to make sure we have done this we have a few others who want to speak and i have questions we will see where we get i save i dont want to speak it is word continuance but we may have changes instead of today and come back. We are making progress but i would be i would not put my boat us being able to conclude them in the way we feel comfortable am you know reserve moiz to be proven wrong. Commissioner diamond. Yes, thank you. Commissioner moore and imperial. I wanted thank everybody who spoke. Dollar a compelling narrative and thank you commissioner diamond for weigh nothing as a former parent. And a lot of personal insight in the conversation. I would like to ask architect to gift commission an over vow for the requirement of 3 variances. If you want to e luism nay have you the slides. The slide we are asking for 3 variances. Swn for the rear yard. The elevation of the rear yard relative to the street. Our rear yard is boost second floor. We think this is appropriate. 49 upon foot projection not guilty rear yard that performs a couple activities one allows for class roof space. You see that bump out in the middle. We dont think this impactless the niche its is the middle of the site. We respected the rear yard. Also what is does for us is allows for a courtyard in the middle where it is says subject and that alus to you get light and air in the middle of the building. That was the rear yard exception. The bicycle exception had to do with our loading through the process we added an additional parking area. And an additional ramp. And by the rules of dpw they did not want bike parking in the space to facilitate loading. Moved the 2 other bike parking space are moved to other yaroslavsky of the campus weville bicycle parking just not on california street. You you confirm the building that will being demolished does in the provide the rear yard. Thereupon is no additional impact onment absense of the. Roar yard that is correct existing building does in the have a rear yard and the roariard we are proposing is on the same level as the existing buildings roof. Should be no impact or change to neighboring buildings. You are provoire diring a rear terrace that is light and sun coming from the south and to the rear yard you tell mote buildings facing washington street. This is correct we reduced the impact the year wrooer rear your and i glass partition from 6 to 10 feet they can have sound. Would you be able to previously comment on the [inaudible] sequence. I had a call the other day asking the entrance as shown would be able to access given the fact the down sloping to get in the school require most likely a gate or a fence or something. We had a stair tower to the right 3150 the entrance that would have a swing gate that is open during the day. Being be closed at night. And then you go down in a space that ramps down sliding glazing on this space facing california street that your can be secured at night. In the future under circumstances in the currently existing anticipating that alled be an open friendly pedestrian oriented entry. It is close and privatized the entrance that it is difficult for schools. I happening that is correct. Can be open so during the day when traffic is moving throughout space when people and kids are moving it is open and can be closed at night but a transparency throughout building. Ip found it interesting to hear pirnl and neighbors upon comment about a different experience of when student load and unloading monies to the neighborhood. There were people who were comis chaos and disruptive. And there were others spoke to the amount of upon sensitivity that is brought well organized departure of students from school. Living close to Cathedral Hill school for boys here on knob hip having seen the school and on street loading and pick up as you are doing on california street. I found the organization of howard exceptional. And i never saw any conflicts or problems in situation you have california and jones is busy there. Was not an Issue Department on the attitude of who is doing it and the participation of parents really understanding the potential the arriving of conflict. Im in support of what you are suggesting and there is an added [inaudible] per of our conditions i would be in support. Thank you very much. Thank you. Commissioner imperial. Thank you. I want to feel add in terms of many of the callers about the pick xup drop off. Which all resonate with american moores opinion in terms of when the plan is and since the plan is reasonable for middle east. The same time, i do want sf talking about transportation early early today. And really i would like to encourage the school to talk to the parents for the parents to have kids take the transportation. The school has a good drop off size in terms of the unit and access to muni. That is really that is one good thing about the school. So if the parents will could be encouraged for their children to take them that would also you know load off the occurrence of neighbors. In terms of the what upon commissioner diamond and this is like my suggestion as well, because in terms of conditions in terms of construction hours and noise and condition on addressing school events. Perhaps we can say that add that the project sponsor work with the Planning Department in ing out language if they could not find the right language today. I money we have done this before, commissioner diamond that would be my suggestion if they step aside and still account not figure out the language that is something we can include. That would be find with mow id like to see it brought back as information item i like to see where they land it is fine if staff works with the parties you know with the neighbors and the school in order to address these issues and come up language they can agree on if staff is amenable. I would like to have it see where they land expect brought back to us not to adopt but information item thank you. Commissioner koppel and braun. Yes. Definitely in support of the project today i appreciate the Net Zero Energy design. I dont think people realize how rare or how big a feat that is. Well is not a handful of building in this city near Net Zero Energy. Approximate that is our assistant district attorneys climate goals to encourage this construction. These buildings dont have to connect to the grid. I think in is a far greater use than the park lot with retail a fan of this being in the location. Also. Ed to address the hours of construction. I rare low remember a time where we governored or dictated when construction could or could not happen that not typically when we have done. We had a case like ape mont ago where the neighboring buildingmented neighboring kruck hours. Some time liaison which typically and mitigate really happening and getting the tw sides at odds with each other in general and in support. Last time it was a similar topic and evens and when hosted space to other groups. And i dont see tht same since uhs will host uh circumstance events so i know that the extinguishings in the draft language here so i think something needs to be landed ono brought back. But other than that im still very supportive what combinations have been agreed upon and in support of moving it forward today. Why commissioner. Commissioner braun. Talk with construction so much in the materials we received there was a statement that the construction start is targeted for june of 23 depending what happens today the construction period was 20 month and this was with the 7 a. M. To 5 p. M. Time line previously. Approximately 20 months and trying to 23 the numbers shift. Where is this at. We are deserving we are working. Ful and we are i think we are lined up to get permit in time to break ground we get approval from planning. Well be able to maintain that spring start. Okay. And i appreciate that we received a letter from a concern tenant of the Shopping Center and im curious to the existing center curious to find out what is the communication with the tenants of center regarding when they need to vacate and the certainty they have in terms of that process. Now. Sure. Im michael from San Francisco University High school. There are two tenants in addition to uhs offices one a Hearing Center and one is pet food express the tenant you sent the letter i was talking with since may was the first, conversation we had. They are lease xoirs this january. Of 2013 and we coordinated the loses to expire planning to have the construction start. So i have shared that with her in may we offerd that is and go to april 30. And so we have we will do that and remember pet food express, we sent them notification last spring. I have been working with the owner and they are aware april 30 is the end date for them. We have been talk with them and sending notifications. So feel like we have been responding. Okay want to make sure well is clarity on that. I thank you is it and soy want to acknowledge tht confusion and issues coming up with the piece of paper i written all over. You know it is result of the a process in which the sponsor is trying to satisfy more of the concerns of the neighbors. It seems like the last minute nature had me concerned about my ability to understand what exact low we are voting on especially given the changes involved changes to the 1993 motion and substitution with new language so im yea. Lets see where we get with this or clear i dont know how we can address this while moving the project forward. In general im in favor. Thank you commissioner braun. You want to weigh in but make sure you can respond or we in. S sure. Thank you very much. Am just to touch on a few the bike parking variance. The code ask that the public bike park within a handled feet of the main entrance that is a challenge with the loading zones and compossiblies in the street and street trees. Im supportive of that the planning code foresees that sometimes and bake in in lieu fee to make sure more bike racks put inform regarding the rear yard, it is important to note that as mention third degree is a lateraly sloping lot and the total slope is 12 feet. It is a story. And in this Zoning District the rear yard is required at second story and above. For a large portion of the property on the slope it is second story seems like the first story. And the block slopes up toward sacramento street. That street and the properties are at a Higher Elevation that further reduces the height. In the rear. And lastly, the required finalings for a variance allows you to consider exceptional circumstanceings for the intended use. Schools are a use that have requirements and needs. So with all of that i mean supportive of the variances for both of those. I do think that the officer in the rear as proposed has bibbing in the setbacks with land scaping condition those to make sure they are maintained. And i wanted ask the architect, youure propotion the glass railing to the east where it is close the residential had other wall heights and the glasserating adds to that and if there it is considered to the the glass railing on all 3 sides or just proposed to the east because of the residential buildings. Sure if we get the slide, please. A solid wall up to 7 feet when youor rear yard that is 7 feet that was a rum of some modifications discussing with the niches the concern for sound and on the east facade the glazed wall from 7 to 12 feet this alines with the belling allowing light in the east side. So, am dollar were light occurrences we discussed and acoustic concerns. Next. 2 other notes then for reference, dbi regulates hours of construction the standard is 7 to 8 p. M. Projectless can get special permissions to go different hours than that mondayfriday to give the frame of reference what you would be permitted do if no conditions are required for this and then if the commission does. To adopt conscience for upon events it is important if they are conditions they would need to be adopted as objectives detailed conditions, if we adopt a condition this asked them to go and then the neighbors and agree. They might not ever agree. We dont know if than i will. Sends them in the hall and dont agree tell fall on the commission to determine what the details of the conditions need to be. Caution on a condition that was too loose and did not land on number of events. We would need in terms to make sure they are enforceable they are objection. Joo thank you. I will start with the issues on the table and add another issue that commissioner imperial touched on. I would say for my preferences i prefer is send this continue a short time 2 weeks get it doesnt in december. Squeeze it on we dont need a presentation just a report with the operational coordination which is condition one. Incorporateed congress conscience conscience of approval or if tell be until a point in the construction period language when this is how to oyst points is 7tie i support the setbacks and i am find with the conditions events proposed the 36 with 24 at the california campus and it seems this does do this in combike weekend and evening events in one instead of a category at different times with exception of some events until 10. 30 also a change from the previous condition where all events terminated by 10 30. There is refinement to the condition. It got longer from the 932d the one we have today. I would being comfortable if we got this all in writing everybody knew what was happen and when we are approving the other issue around transportation is students getting to and from the scoop. Im supportist increase in the number. Students but concerned we will have more driving or getting to the school boy vehicle instead of walking, biking or transit. I believe in the report upon im sorry i have so many documents open i have been trying to search if there is a problem with queueing we have mitigation monitor or authority to say there is a problem now dot other things. Wander can we have a proactive approach that you should be trying to have more walking and biking. If we increasing students this is we have a mode share we are seeking as part of this increase they are not allowed get dropped off boy one vehicle. Im concerned increasing enrollment and more vehicle trips. Monitoring those types of those regulations. Once adopted the code says any conditions bottom the weight of code. And the interception and enforcement falls to the za. We do want top make sure if you are adopting conditions they are objective it can be challenging to determine if machine tried, chief a principle or goal. So if you were concerned about that, to a manner you felt you could land on numbers. Thats you want to be if possible. I dont know if this is a possibility for this topic at this level. This is something you have to consider further. In tefrms possibility of doing that and going forward. I think as much detail as possible it it is an actual condition is more helpful. Yea what i look at in my packet this is in the page 145 i so it saying that the following operational improvements implemented if well not sufficient. Not manage loading operations well you do these things. Member says they are not doing it well. Yea they are not, dot other things. Are staff how are we managing this. Because this is specific low an leadership of the environmental document our environmental staff could speak to these. Who would like to take that . A if isnt i mitigation measure if the Commission Adopts it it becomes a condition of approval. At enforcement is complaint based. We dont have resources to monitor every project. So if acology complaint come in we look into it. You need to implement improvement measure. Thank you very much. I want to speak on 2 items the first about the pick xup drop off. Mitigated negative mmrp apply, they are incorporated in the motion the school has a robust pick up and drop off program i can let the official it is speak but had one in place for many years. They analyze what is going on on campuses for pick up and drop off they are aware and work with neighbors you heard the speem speak today. That combined with mmrp measures we think is sufficient to be take care of future issues. We have agreed to meet with the laurel inn annually in contact with other neighbors on the campus and agreed to dot same there is ample measures in place to ensure the school is doing the right thing my concern is in the pick up and drop off is a challenge it seep seems thorough it is thifting the load share if you have other students i prefer to have a few coming by car because that it is having, net zero building you got people drivewaying and congest 1 the impacts that are not related the pick up and drop off but the mode the students use to get to school. 50 live in walk and biking distance i would like to see walking and bike instead of vehicle trips. We do there are a few students that use bikes and scooters and things like that we have plans where we encourage families to commute. Provide information so than i are commuting. We dont allow students to drive. Well is anning exception if than i find off Street Parking well have one city council that is doing that. We have robust a lot education with pirnlts and feel that moving upon down to with the increased number of students move to california street will minimize. We are encouraging started a shuttle this year to embarcadero. So this students and faculty and he staff take mass transit that runs 3 times in the morning and afternoon. We are working with our community and families to. I ride my bicycle to work. So i think there is education side and encourage. I will stop this line of questioning thank you for answering i will just let my case for of this idea of being proactive rest. I would be supportive of a motion that is for continuance. With very specific items i dont want to open a can of worms everything is relit gifted a lot of work to work with neighbors and stake holders to get to agreements we are almost there i dont want this to be seen we want toment to relitigate the other asspekts of the project. Why commissioner tanner. Indulge mow we believe the language is on the piece of paper. If you dont mind going to the over head we think we would not like to have a continuance. If i could have the over head. The first go in as is. Regarding monitoring on california street at events. Second condition, struck. The third condition termination of evening events 10. 30. The fourth buss and it is bus not idling in front of the school. On the back, the operation condition agreed to. With the laurel inn like that to be incorporating meeting with them witness a year to discuss the discussion and operation of school and students. Construction hours if like it to be use of manageal equip during shoring, demolition not story before 8 a. M. All other at 7 a. M. That would allow the laurel inn not to have the heavy equipment and noise and would allow project to turndz normal buildings construction hours and meet the 20 month schedule the project will be done the neighbors happy no more construction. Third is this long one. Everything stay the same. Until we get down to this line. Special weekend and evening events for all 5 campuses 50 importance open houses, back to sxool night et cetera not more than 3 per calendar machining on average. Not to exceed 36 per year. With no more then and there 24 at the california campus. In addition. All athletic related practice and or games teams are exempt. The rental or nonschool related use presented at the california campus. And the per we struck out is regarding woad like to strike the specifics regarding everything ending at 10. 30 we would like to strike the specifics related to daytime, weekday and weekday, weekday, notice weekend days and nights. Like to strike that the bucket understanding this evening event is anything over 50 importance. This has to end by 10. 30. 3 per month. 36 per year no morthan 24 at california thank you very much. I think this it is messy this is my 2 cents prefer to be more buttoned up before we approve it. I dont get to make motions i give it to commissioner koppel. With all of the facts stated i want to make a motion to approve. Commissioner diamond. I would i would second this but with an exception on the operation for lauren in Network Earlier on in the hearing mr. Ruth said they would add the language when they got together annually not about drop off and pick up butt operations of the building. I think we add operations. I would like to ask about the reasons the number of evans is increased and moving from 9. 30 to 10 30. 10 30 means that by the time buildings emptied and everybody is gone it is 11 or 11. 15 and at this time in the quiet neighborhood the residual noise is noticeable in the residents i believe this this aspect of the conditions needs to be further discussd and agree with president tanner. That this needs to be slightly buttoned up. Why commissioner moore the concern conditions ends at 10. 30. Thank you. I see 9. 30. That not the concern continue that was a staff draft condition. Look at the other page under number 3 section atermination of evening events evening events by 10. 30 that it is a currently existing condition. This is when exists currently. Okay. And you believe abincrease in activity this is acceptable. Why commissioner diamond. The increase in activity you consider this an acceptable condition . I will ask the school 10. 30 seems late is this necessary. We certainly real ically could go down to 10 if this is i question. Makes more sense to me. It does to me as well. It is a language time we went if prom. We dont have prom on catch us. Raise one concern about wording in prescription condition the last sentence states that the minimum once per year meeting to discuss and resolve issues. Concerned that this is requiring them to ref solve but what is resolution on an issue when you have 2 parties. And it is clear the intent is to discuss issue this is may come up. Im not sure we want specific language this says they should resolve them. Im foreseeing occurrence or complaints an issue is in the resolved and not having clear guidance. On how to move forward. Removing the end resolve language allow spirit and intent of the condition and a requirement without loose hang ambigutey. Commissioner braun. I share occurrence about trying to do this on the notice with the hahn written document and it it is heard ton if there are, crediting conflicts with the motion is drafted that i cant understand by doing it this way. Am im curious if mrs. Wodz or mr. Teague have concerns that you can pick up on . Changeoth fly relative to when we are looking at prior to this. I think it is always an issue drafting or edits on the notice. I think it dependses on the level comfort the commission has with when is before them. I understand both sides today. And we would if we do it today make sure it as clearly documented as possible for drafting of the final motion can be read in the record clearly what it it is. And obviously if you dont feel that can be done well today this it is something you need to consider whether or not to do it today or before with conditions. Can Planning Department staff we dont have concerns with the conditions. Thank you. If i may i know there is som bigutey with the become approximate fort if you want to get it done today you can incorporate the suggestions the language refeigned w with staff and return you as an informational item so you feel more comfortable with the final language. Thank you. Commissioner ruiz. Thank you. I just i was not going to say anything i was supportive of the project and i think the back and forth with the additional conditions in before us have made my head hurt a bit. And so i think it is i good thing it is school is proposed here i dont think it is out of scale with the neighborhood. You know i want to emphasize the importance of being a Good Neighbor and the project sponsor doing their Due Diligence to address occurrence before projects come before the commission so we dont see ourselves in situations like this one. And in my short time on the commission i think wait a moment have had issues with misinterceptions of motions and what commissioners have wanted when we have approved projects and we have seen this when we have gone through minutes, for example and going back and forth on when we were hoping for. But approve exclude said. And i just dont want to make that mistake again. And so i dont know if helpful to continue for a week. Is this too short of time for the sponsor and for the neighbors but i would make a motion to continue at least for a week unless folks believe that is just not enough time then continuing for 2 weeks as president tanner stated i would Second Coming back on consent with the items drafted. So if i commissioner has an issue we pull it but come back this writing is what the can lawyer had on her screen. If we get hain writing that is not handwriting i would be more comfortable and second to continue. If on consent our peculiaret guess out with tomorrow. Tw weeks on consent. I think here 3 week we have thanksgiving. I think you are all [inaudible] you are all close i go become to commissioner diamonds suggestion. I dont think it is complicated what was on the screen it is confusing. I continue this until the end of the calendar. Every time we have discussion y. Less we debating because we did not have this motion until now now 5 oclock and we have more items to go. I dont know it is about their agreement as our skfrl and ability to keep discussing i raurth talk in 3 weeks or talk now im not feeling like it is getting to resolution i dont like to continue it is not my jam but dont like the way. If you did continue a week we are going to be issuing next weeks calendar insurely the holiday tomorrow. We can accomplice it on the consent. And have the finalized language sent to you when it it is made available to prevent a 3 week yoochl that would be amenable. Commissioner diamond. I will with draw my second. Original i think commissioner ruiz and tanner made a good point this was a mess on that one item and i think it is you will pers interests including uhs i dont are clear. And i would be supportef of a week conditionation on consent and notice it and distribute the language. Than i are so close on monday they by monday the latest we could have the language. This would make me comfortable as well, too. Yes. There is a motion to continue for a week to november 17th accomplice the item on the agenda under consent and hopefully we will have language sent to you on monday. May be monday morning. Because tell be on consent did you we want to nail down the language is it 10 or 10. 30. If it aint broke dont fix it. That was last minute point of disagreement. Add about the operation coordination to discuss and resolve. 82 on that moegz motion commissioner braun aye yoochl xhrp ruiz aye commissioner diamond aye commissioner imperial aye commissioner wap koppel aye commissioner mor aye commissioner tanner aye. That passes with koppel voting against. Commissioners that will place us on items 9a and b and c and d. Case 20210057. Ofa and var. The property at 2 stockton a downtown project authorization. Cu and Office Allocation the upon za will consider any for variance. Good it afternoon commissioners. Planning staff. A request a downtown project authorization exceptions for the reduction of wind, hoyt limit and height and bulk district. And bulk limes for tw stockton street. Requests a c u authorization to allow the frontage of retail to market to sxeed 75 feet of 41age and allow office use exceeding 5,000 square feet on 4sick floor. Requests an Office Allocation allow up to 49, 999 square feet of new office use. Zoning officer consider a variance from open space requirements planning code 6138. The project required a permit alter from history be preservation granted left month. Before going to the hp xrshgs review by the architectural review committee. The site on the Northeast Corner of stockton and Market Street. The project site is developed commercial building constructed in 19073 stories tall over a basement with a large hennous 71, sick 71 square feet. The building served retail since initial construction and occupied boy a single tenant retailer. The department received i letter of support. Forwarded to you this morning. I have physical copies for distribution. The Department Finds it is kin with policy of the steles general plan and department fines the project to be necessary, desirable and compat with the neighborhood. Will allow job creation renew office use, retaining tame on Market Street. The improve street scape as a property facade and increase commercial store fronts from serving a single tenant up to 3 and attract the to the block and further the goal prime location for professional activity. The project provide compatible facade design in the Historic Downtown commercial district. Based on the finding it is defendant recommends approval with conditions. Project experience you have 5 minutes. Good afternoon president tanner, commissioners. Im katy a Vice President the Investment Group repositions of 2 stockton street. Spent 2 year working with plan and Environmental Planning staff achieve a plan the building and the neighborhood. Upon the building on know important corn arast market and stockton. The gateway in union square. Our project seeks to transform building with the design contemporary and consistent with the Historic District in which is sits. Propotion mix of use we aim to activist this intersection with uses that will support the longterm success of the union square submarket. We know the stele is focussed on applying resources to recovery of the area. We are excited propose a project that will continue to the success of the area. It is lected for a mix of uses as extremely transit oriented. A block away from the powell street bart and municipal and he atop the central subway line opening next year. The building today was modified in the 90s. And retains no historic integrity. A 3 store building a partial fourth floor used as retail storage. The redevelopment retaint existing retail and add under 50 thonld square feet of new office space. The office space a separate entrance off of market and new Systems Private terrace. 15 heights. Windows for Natural Light and lead gold rate thanksgiving is on top of transit. We are asking the commission to approve the vrgz c u authorization and Office Allocation and asking the za to approve variance for our 330 square foot requirement. Of the new extearier received unanimous approval at h pc. Grounds floor and top floor special debreak up mass and follow configuration in Historic Buildings near by. 2 story base with change in brick color and texture allows the build to main taint within to 3 base versus upper floor proportion additional floors are added the building presents from the streetsally 6 store and he a 7th story setback not visible from the street. Design based on design guidelines. The corn of the building is distinguished through patterning and brick bordering. Here you see some automatic00 sorry. No tht is top of the building. The upper towers organized in vertical bays come to life through a slight curve upper and includes a horizontal and brick patterning and the design includes a parapit that increase knowledge the top of the building. Here is more information on the materiality we envisiond and have samples if you want to see as well. And this it is before and after we feel the design is much more a big improve am and consistent with the guidelines than the design. New ground floor plan a dedicated office off of market in blue and new interior off the on whiches lob in light blue and break update retail in small are footprints as need. We decided with mag it is everevermrarj the best location is on Market Street. This requires a variance from the zshg a to district over subscribed with 20 . We envision this as an inviting respite without indoor options the nearest is 55, second street. There are 3 roof tops ours will offer an easy in and out from market without the need to check in at a security desk or wait for an elevator. Designed with table and stools for sipping coffee, people watching on market ownership an escape from rain and cold in the months. At the beginning of the project we study variety of uses for the upper floors including apartments, condos, hotels more retail and office space. Had is worked out we loved to build residential here. And i know this is what the commissionersment as well. The fact is it just due to the physical constraints residential does in the work you need a large set become from the build to get light in all of the units. And you need to will build out a search core to so there is access. And this just decreases the efficiency of the build and obstructless the retail layouts. We believe that personal corner nopeds to prioritize the retail and residential upper floors. Also higher Construction Costs and lower rents and lack of on sight parking make it infeesable. Thank you for your time and i welcome questions. Thank you open up Public Comment. Hi. Everyone. Upon im sam a commercial real estate broke upper. I specialize in office leasing. Appreciate everyones time. I list for maked buildings and proponent for office in the submarket. Union square had a strong amount of demand in a market that has not seen a lot. It is amenity rich and 24 7 environment. Users of officeful space of go on the street and further support the retailers. Rising vacancies everybody reads the bad nows. Tenabilities have more choice. This the attract use and users look at the area from all over and will benefit community from increased activity from [inaudible]. Will supportist variance and thank you for your time. Im [inaudible] speaking on behalf of [inaudible] and organization focussed on high quality experience supporting [inaudible] and attracting victims. [inaudible] requirement [inaudible] redevelopment subject of consideration reporter 350 square feet. [inaudible] [the option consistent with sudden front guidelines is [inaudible] on stockton street. Alliance not viewed the option useful or desirable addition. Preference the developer [inaudible] in the of 350 skwas foot posts love to work to send improve am of open space and number of opportunity iary alliance identified in the strategic plan. I know that in lieu fee option is not available in the district [inaudible]. Full support and in lieu fee in districtless we work with the city to prioritize where dollars utilized [inaudible] open spaces and [inaudible] experience. Supports the develop temquestion for variance and supportive of the prosecute pose is indoor serve pedestrians. We believe the design enhance the neighborhood and ask the commission to approve as proposed. Thank you. Last call for Public Comment. Press star 3. No requests to speak, public ment is closed and the merit is before you thank you very much. I appreciate this project. Fwlad to see this bodiesing getting red for next life. I had a question for the sponsor. In terms of repositioning the building how this will be it is Office Spaces and go a bit how you seat future of the building used and the users you hope to retain . I think, there has been bad news but we are hearing San Francisco is a [inaudible] to office marks now the Different Office space, the new with more sustainability, performs well and then the commodity space this is vacant. Y believe this will knowledge in the foreman are category. Due to alegality of component this is we talked bh amazing seals heights. 15 feet floor to floor. Windows allow Natural Light appealing. Private terrace on the top that is appealing. On top of transit. Beautiful low new design building we think that and next it union square and the amenities there for the workers. We think this is achievable size for occupy the floor or 50,000 square feet a single tenant take all the office space as limp architecture firms engineering firms and that type of boutique use are a great fit. Could you tell us when you see in the Retail Market what you might expect and time before it is on the market. What you are hope to see in the retail side . Now it is occupied on a short term lease. We are work on reposition of 48 stockton the form are barnys building. And that has you know the basement grounds floor and mezzanine on the leasing market and had, lot of great interest in that. 4 must level retail temperature is encouraging losingum that building and reposition thanksgiving to do this. Grit. Excellent. Commissioner imperial. I have a question hard regarding the variance you locked in others siteds can you expand that. What are the others. Locked at different optionless for the posts the first of which was. Stockton. It is a designated pedestrian corridor a code compliant option there. The alliance mentioned they did not like that and shut it down when it went before. Stockton is busy and nobody likes people sitting on the street and want to encourage pedestrians there. We also talked about on the roof. I think the general plan guidelines envision the minimum size is 800 square feel that 330 square feet less than half of that and we felt like the private roof top was a leaping difference for office as well. Dismissd that. We talked to planning staff about improve ams to the palos street promenade but that is in the allow today is improve am of existing out door Square Footage and not new. All of those were considered and that is how we ended up with when we have now planning. We are excited about what we are propotion. We want to make it coalsef feeling like a cafe without buying anything you can stop and easy low in and out. Thank you. Pif thank you for the explanation and when you are trying to planful my concern was about the interior. This would be for za to consider asspeventh out doors access to light something part of redesigning. In a way i you know the access special interior can be a problem, the access is one thing the outside as well times can be a problem. I understand thap you will not put security but as let youveed having an out door in interior i thank you is what im trying to how i feel as well. I would prefer an outside. Yea. Important to be clear true the am propose the on the ground floor it triggers a variance that does not mean the nature of them is not under the purview of planning in the 3 entitlements and because. Would nuance of the code the 8020 provision this is in the variable. It is i project that is proposing indoor and you know for the variance i would be looking at input of the commission for the project over all and the nature of it. I think the over all context described the code allows to you do it on site out door in a manner at grade plaza or roof deck or indoor and the general plan provides guide lines how to do it. And allow you to do off site within 900 feet. Not a lot of vacant land and the public rightofway is accounted for that did not work out. It seems like on this property some level of officer terrace or deck or indoor off the street other 2 options and it is a question of the context and quality of either one of the optionless. The like what was mentioned in the requirement for a roof deck. It it is small. In terms of and imagine like a deck. You know. Like a 360 square feet deck which makes me think that sometimes how viable that is. And access believe this is as well. So i am like thinking in terms. At least the interior is to be how transparent like in the design looks like transparent it it is so it is really known as this is a public open private open Public Open Space. Those other elements im trying to look into for the interior i prefer but it is i small one. Those are element of how public it it is transparent it is the people know that isa i private Public Open Space. It was something i had questions about i wonder if the sponsor could describe. Like a sign a sign but one thing im interested is the operations. I imagine that corridor is busy. A busy place. People are out running eran and shopping. Could be great it is accessible opposed to the out door roof tops you may not know how to get there and concern to have something unstaffed. If you talk how tell operate anybody guess in. You come in the morning and look and up clone up or how will that operate so it is welcoming for all folks who want to use it and not a source. Challenge for visitors and users. A strait separate entrance our market money and out the benefit television on the grounds floor it it is adjacent to the security desk for the office lobby. There is will be eyes on it at all the time and i think our thought is that tell get more use on the ground floor than an up were floor where people can come in out and there is that oversight from Security Office as well. I think there are different ways we dont have the hours nailed down and or anything. We talked about like ways to make the public then and there is sgon there is signage and have the signage and i think it it is also we are within the district and our design needs to be consistent with the the guidelines we could leave the doors open on nice days. This is the public space. Come in and use it. Thank you very much. I will go to commissioner braun and then a butt more and i have other thoughts. Thank you now the hours of operation are not known. Hopefully a substantial amount of time. And the question of the them being indoors. And ground level i have taken a vacation to go to every in downtown San Francisco including the roof tops are hard to get to and involve a lot of security. I found the indoor ground level to be the most welcome and useful cites for people who need to take a break or do work. Seems like a good solution for a small and constrained area. I like the idea. Of future approximate consideration. Otherwise, im in favor of this project i like that you know as much as we think of short term challenge in San Francisco we are aware there is a longterm restructuring challenge with retail all over the nation and the world. Of fwrit to her there is interest in the retail spaces in this area im excited. And but the same time we need to recognize the Retail Market and having this office use seem like a way to reinvest in this property and continues to functionar San Francisco for a long time. E approximately in a place with transportation access. I proernlt this project. Thank you. This we have quite a queue. I see that. Just a moment just quickly i did want to just oako what we heard the big challenge with this is how to ensure that the grounds flower will read and be understood. By the public. How will people know it is public and if you go in how is the interior programmed. Is it separate enough from the lobby up dont continuing is public and walk in and be confused if you can stay there. The rep with the lobby is helpful for the security but may get in and see there is security and may be think you are not supposed to be there long. It credited a challenge for the interior design. Other challenge i like the sponsor to speak to a bit is worked with preservation staff. Put in on the projects had developed. When you add to an existing belling that is different you have that wedge this in an existing building envelope and existing developed context. But if for these situations additions in the Downtown Core if we want an in lieu fee option we have to amend the code. Window sticker or art washing that is communicating something inside visible from the street those are ways not to change the building but have better signage. If they are speak to that and what process or any thought or work you have done on making more read more as public low open either external low from the street or inside. Appreciate that. There were has been a baptist diawilling i wonder if you can condition sighsly position the question. Part of the challenge this is an existing building has i Ground Police officer and street front system and dont think the prosecute pose the grount floor will in the bust out and credit a separate part of the ground floor that will scream this is Something Different example part of this is offend this is existing and historic building. Now there are one set of doors. Internal connection to the lobby and i wanted to know like do you feel like what propose side the extent to when you can do base on the preservation constraints or other ideas you could consider to make it read more public low accessible. How do people know they go and not the lob competence can hang out there. Can i start. We have not designed it is in the toll low designed yet. I think we are open to working with planning staff when it come to that point about what they think is the right way to make this show as you know as the possible space it is we want it to be a successful public space. We are on of the same page. We want it to read the public pace it is. And would w with planning staff it adheef in a way that is consistent with the neighborhood. I suggest to come back as an informational item to see what is selected weather small are things like art work or signage or things that could help this read as public but may not be selecting at this point. You have anything to add. I say it come down to the interior finishes. Our firm about 22, second street. The finance the art work it tells i different story than the tipical lobby. I think through this design can indicate speak closer to the mic. People can you speak closer to the mic. Referencing another project our firm has done a larger scale but through design we indicate how it should issue used and welcoming to passerby commissioner koppel, moore and back in the room i have im proud of our downtown the architect europe in our retail in union square i view possible usage i like to keep things as in tact as can i. That said, i thjs it is a good addition to the neighborhood. I buildings on Market Street and hit corners like stock tan that are big in the city are high prior and think the distinguish upper did their best with the layout of the building they had. So im in support. Commissioner moore. Share the occurrence about the not only small size but ingrigz in i building. In intersection highway plea problematic this is the pores intersections transition to union square. You have old navy on the far side. When you come across and stockton a gate way to union and always something on that corner. Failing retail, banks or whatever had has been the last 810 years in light where the transitioning from covid office and retail a request remains unanswered i like to ask the applicant as to whether or not they are committed attentives for office and retail. We dont have sign loses yet. One quill question the building does in the on stockton street prevennes interesting proportion of the building a facade you are e lim nitting a large number. Windows there is no light provides for the interior of small offices and circulation in the building have you looked at that and talked with [inaudible] about what your building was adding additional floor does to the building . We are setback from the building on the floors where we dw up a 10 foot set become it allow a light well for their windows and have talked to them we were group of from our team touring the building the other day with ownership and i will say the build suggest an example they are 90 lease and office floor they are performing really well. It it is a building of Certain Office and size and structure. Could you pin mow to the drawing where i see that light well i must have over locked it. I saw your building on the property line. I may have over lookd that if so, aye i apologize. A i was corrected 18 plus set become you see it right there the build suggest on screen hatched and the upper floors which are taken back from that. Thank you. I opened the drawing and see it im delighted see it has been opened my question is is there a possibility of pulling it to another dreshgz of where participate upon in a form or another with ground floor light well, is this possible . There syrup not a ground floor light well. It is built out to the property line. No way of creating any possible i think the configure egg of the floor complaint buildings it is in the feasible in plan to introduce a light well to level one. Because the officer you are seeing in the plan is level 4. We would create a light well through 4 levels of retail. It it is not feasible. The reason why i say that is the type of people who are we we need to consider are people who would not necessary low be courageous enough to come into this open space they go to open spaces that are accessible to light and air or which are more open to the street and not so the integrated in the build thanksgiving looks like an exception of a lobby that is the impression that will retain [inaudible] i dont think it it is materials or art work i think the social and Racial Equity demand when it miss to this is in the fully met in when i see. Thats a big question. Im wondering as to whether or not the building xr ambitious facade treatment has taken in consideration what a challenging intersection this one is. I think it is the most difficult ones. And the upon southern east and west side of the intersection are all rather buildings come dont tie this in a positive way. Im concerned about the viability of office and retail of the scale youure proposing in this location. Thank you, commissioner moore. Commissioner diamond. With thank you. I had all of the same concerns that everybody expressed. I would spchlt the Department Upon thinking about an in lieu fee this this situation. And propotion legislation for very tailored to the solution because in general than i are incredible feature of our downtown. I share with you commissioner braun how special men of these space are. They are i have brnlt and beautiful and creative. And attract people and serve as an asset to the downtown im having a hard time see thanksgiving one function in the same way. So my first thought is i would be support of as a policy matter if the department wanted pursue legislation that would allow for alternative use of the fund this is would go in the project here i dont know if you do it broadly but tailored. Assumption this does in the wroshg or we cant do did fast enough. I had asked about the fact that this is there is nothing in the staff packet showed temperature i saw the presentation and showed vague idea its looks like a cafe. Not inspiring. I want to see more work done. I asked if she being directly a condition in case we landed there. I dont know do you want to share that language . Sure. Rebecca planning staff i have copies. Can you take your mask off. Sure. Sorry. I have copies of a draft modified condition of approval. If you would like to see those copies. Dp then i can also possible low share it on the over head. That would be helpful. It is condition of President Trump for a standard condition of approval we have for this and then it was in the staff report i updated p it with additional language. We have for this and ts in the staff report i updated p it with additional language. I will leave it for the commissioners to electric at and see whether or not they near agreement. It seems a minimum if we do this we need have it come become to see what they developed. An effort to get there. And a different line of questioning can the sponsor come forward. So i was dis, pointed not to see a residential project. I was thrilled see the new design that you were going higher and you have filth in retail and you want the bottom 3 floors to be retail. I was in the excited about the office on topmost low we have so much unlose the office space about to expire. And i was hoping this will be an example of a project it is in the a conversion you do residential add after talking with you early 30 week and hearing your explanations today i understand this is in the the right building for residential the floor plates and the cut the customer throughout belling and result unless inefficiency space. I see dwr you propose office space on top. I know you do many projects and will considering others in the downtown area that conversions. I wonder if you can talk about for a moment as we are as a commission considering whether or not it is a good idea to encourage conversions of buildings downtown. What you locked at in this building that had you come to the conconclusion it is not going to work and how other buildings may have the potential for the conversions if we did things. Shirr a mobile home or 2. This is in the exact low this building but. I happening it would be useful yoochlt i do think. It is something i will tell you i think you mentioned we build a ton of residential finish being 500 on market and brid and he started another 500 unit 1200 in the pipeline love residential and residential in San Francisco. For this project all the reasons it does in the work here we looked studied in detail. I think that there it is it it is something this we are talking about as a firm on these Commodity Office building to give them new life if it is to convert to residential there are concern physical electronicallies a building needs to have to make that work. I proernlt the you enengaging on this it important in how we look at the fee and time lines for approval and thing this is help push the conversions forward. I dont have answers now but personal conversations we should have. Why thank you i hope you will be in conversation as we go forward commoning about this. And we talked about this in past hearings. That we are working with oewd on Downtown Revitalization effort this includes one projecting what future demand for office space and what types of space. Part of that is looking at what buildings could convert and what it would take and what are like low to convert and things like what strata encounter in this building will are part of this floor plates. Windows. Light list. We will have that and come back and talk to you early next approximate year the broader strategy. I should say we are working with Union Square Association on strategies that include am upper floors and how to reuse for office or residential. Filling vacant ground flower retail paces that are could be code tweaks but economic development. And also issues around public realm. All stuff we are talking b. Thank you. En of excess commissioner dimon. Commissioner ruiz. I agree with when everybody has said so far. I personal low like the idea of indoor i think the question in terms how the public know that it is a public space for use. And it is important and so im looking forward to this coming become to the commission. The reason why i like it the idea of a place of refuge for a wide variety of folks i imagine use the space like shoppers. Xr workers, meeting for lunch expect folks unhoused. I want to make sure that. Is something that we consider because the only other space i can think of for folks who are unhoused or trying to escape extreme weather whether hot come ch we have seen happen or with rain is the main library. And so with an indoor and with the implementation of security i will ask the sponsor but i hope that is a conversation had with security that as folks come in to use the pace it is a pace for everybody. So i wanted add that and im supportive of the project and look forward to hearing more about it. Commissioner koppel. Make a motion to approve with commissioner diamonds request to may be have an informingal item come become back thank you. John on behalf sponsor. Not a surprise that this conversation is had about it. We spent a lot trying to figure out how to add upon figure this out. And the fee is a problem it is in the available here. We had in tefrms of figuring out how to make it work i want to make clear when we were talking about the feet on the street. Would vehicle code compliant. There were half a dozen involved with this conversation because of the things this commissioner moore said there are challenges at this intersection and alost people and you got the Union Square Group saying we love for this to invest elsewhere. Point being that i think there is still a sdeenl amount of conversation had. And the concern is there is interest in inllow fee from the commission and us and the neighborhood. I would suggest this the condition of approval has this come back for informingal hearing in the event the groups decide a legislative amendment is appropriate wepate fee without coming become to the commission. That does in the have to come back and thursday be an option to full fit like a pregrand fathering. So is the maker of motion okay with adding this condition with the caveat if in lieu option the project takes advantage. And to clarify if it was an option that would have to come back. The code change come become to the commission when we have the code change we and address the issue about the. The Code Amendment would come here well we want to look at it more broadly and work with the association to receive what types of public realm improve ams they want to make it broader it does criminality a significant amount. We get notion either has to come back. Will smoegz to approve with the condition and i would i dont know amend it further but if there is a legislative change we could do it at that time. Whatever you want to do, joel. I will leave that door open. We amend the approve project with the amendment as condition 14 and if there is a change for in lieu fee could take advantage. Yea. Yes. Thank you. Commissioner diamond. 2 things are say you go dont want to design it until you know whether you gate the amendment. Or. I think a timing question. We will design it and move forward i think if the we knew it was not an option it would be manage we would reexamine. You will move on both. Continue to design. We cant in lieu fee the track working with the department. We can get that. Yes. I need ton the language that you are supposed about are you may be the City Attorney can help us how we amend the conditions. If an in lieu fee is public they dont have to grant permission to use that. Is this with the it is typical the code changes before a project has a permit. This would be no different we affirm should the code change that is an option. Are we putting that in the condition . Yes. Since we agreed this will be a prime site for that. I agree. I want to make sure the language is clear when we dot manslaughter. Why i was going to suggest that clause included in condition 14 if in lieu option the experience can like or select it. It if they take vvenlth fee they are not required do it at all. Of also on the timing issue the language drafted now that design and the informational hearing to planning has to happen before they submit the first permit . And i did in the know thats we could change that to before the Planning Department approved or before issued. I dont know if that timing is relevant to the commission especially in the sense of if the projectment its must have with the option of in lieu aor if the sponsor has the timing when you plan to submit first mitts. Not before we did the site permit that is soon after entitlement. The process takes a long time. The later that can be pushed back the more time will design the space and bring back a better design. Okay. These conditions it is more in line with part of the planning review once we receive permits. If the Commission Interested in changing that super submit at prior to approving that may allow flexibility in timing. It would be amended design of the Public Open Space submitted for review prior to did you say . Planning Department Approval of the first building. Instead of submittal. Prior to planning approval. Of okay. And then Everything Else the same and if in lieu available this project could take advantage of this. Excellent. Working hard today, guys. Before we go i want to add and you know we will vote anyways employees im not comfortable in terms of the adding the pregrand fathering because i sounds like the project sponsor going to design and work with a planning in terms of temperature it leaves me uncomfortable of giving the option of inform pollute fee and createds more confusion. And so regard everregard was tell economic back to planning im more in terms of what the earlier condition that we had today im comfortable with this. But you know the pregrand fathering thing part of the motion and it is uncomfortable for mow. Thank you. Commissioner moore i see you put your anymore in the queue but dont think you have questions . I never had a question for the record mr. Teague is fwhlding would be adaptive reuse with added office floor would this require one . Ure asking if this was conversion without going 50,000 opposed to physically aciding the office stories. This build suggest a demolition, first it is a new building ify understand this correctly. No. Thats nocorrect. Can a partial floor approximate building the first floor remains. The addition of office on top. Yes. There is a motion has been seconded to approve with conscience as have been amended. And submitted in the record submitted revision to strike acceptance and replace with planning approval of the first building or site permit application and adding a sentence, if in lieu option the sponsor exercise it. On this motion commissioner braun. Ruiz. Aye commissioner dimon. Why aye commissioner imperial no commissioner koppel aye commissioner moore. Aye and president tanner