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Thanks. I example the first thing to point out is the first word is camp tlargz to be bugs and dirt and so long as you can get past that part in place is pretty awesome. Youre going to get to our cabin and why is it so small well most of your time is spent outside. Programming was our first step we wanted to offer a program that is, you know, makes people happy and leaves them with memories. Here and there. So more points. Ready 1, 2, 3. I think a big part is its coming from San Francisco it is real estate a kind of vibe people relate to each other and everyones living in the city and you can feel the breath of fetish air and the experience you get out here. I think it give us an opportunity to get away from technology you come out here and look at it here and not look at our iphones and you kind of lose users in the city and have a cup of coffee im corey a typical day increase no typical day. And just the first time being on the talent show and getting a huge applause and i never expected it is is r is a great experience im an executive chief here at kathy serve over one hundred meals a day for the camp mather folks. People love our meals and the idea they can pick up a meal and dont worry about shopping or doing dishes and enjoy and have a great time at camp mather grasping grab on. I like camp mather it is a lot of freedom and kids run around its great. They have all the things i dont have to do the kids get to do what they want to do and we basically focus on them thats our only job. I like camp mather because i can ride my bike. I love camp mather. The children are up here playing around and riding their booiths bicycles thats a great place to see what the word is like outside of the city. Good evening and welcome to the september 16, 2015 meeting of the San Francisco berd of appeals. The presiding officer this evening will be the boards Vice President , dairl honda. He is joined tonight by commission frank fung, commissioner rick swig. To my left is robert brian, he is a deputy City Attorney and he will provide the board with any needed legal advice. At the controls we have the boards Legal Process clerk and im also very pleased to welcome our new legal assistant, gary cantera im cynthia goldstein, the boards executive director. We will be joined tonight by City Departments that have cases before the court. Senior building inspector duffy is here, representing the department of building inspection. The board requests that you turn off or silence all phones and other Electronic Devices so they will not disturb the proceedings. Please carry on conversations in the hallway. The boards rules of presentation are as follows appellants permit holders and responders each are given 7 minutes to present this case and 3 minutes for rebuttal chl people affiliated for these parties must include their comments within these 7 or 3 minutes. Member members of the public have up to 3 minutes to address the board and no rebuttal. Please speak into the microphone. To assist the board in the accurate presentation of minutes you are asked but not required to submit a speaker card or Business Card when you speak. The board welcomes your comments and suggestions. There are Customer Satisfaction survey forms on the podium for your convenience. If you have questions about requesting a rehearing, the board rules please speak to staff during a break or after the meeting, we are located at 1653 mission street. This meeting is broadcast live on sfgovtv, cable channel 78 and rebroadcast on fridays at 4 00 on channel 26. Dvds of this meeting are available for purchase from sfgovtv now we will swear in or affirm all those who intend to testify. Please note any member of the public may speak without taking an oath pursuant to their rights under the sun shine ordinance. If you intend to testify at any of tonights hearings and have the board give your testimony any testamentary weight, please stand. sworn . Thank you. Commissioners, well start with item no. 1, which is general Public Comment. This is a not item for anyone here who wishes to address the board on an item that is within the boards subject matter jurisdiction but is not on tonights calendar. Is there anyone here for item 1 . Okay, seeing none, item 2 is commissioner comments and questions. Commissioners, anything . Id like to welcome our new staff member. Thank you very much. Any Public Comment on item 2 . Seeing none, then we will go to item 3. Item 3 is the boards consideration of its minutes for the meeting of september 2nd, 2015 and we can wait until commission fung gets back up to his seat. Commissioners, those minutes are before you for your consideration . Oo sfoo commissioners, do we have any additions or changes to the minutes that have been presented . No. May i have a motion . Move to adopt. Thank you. Is there any Public Comment on the minutes . Seeing none, we have a motion from commissioner fung to adopt the minutes. Vice president honda . Aye. Commissioner wilson, aye. Commissioner swig, aye. That motion carries 40. The next item on the calendar is item 4, which are two jurisdiction requests, the subject property is at 721 beach street, the board received a letter from greg holzman, requestor, asking the board take jurisdiction over application numbers 205 and 201404707 which were issued on january 15, 2013 and june 24, 2014. The appeal periods ended on january 30, 2013 and july 9, 2014, respectively and jurisdiction requests were filed at the board ofrs. Permit holders are jeff sears and bj real estate. A new structural system along east Property Line, new stair configuration at rear property, new elevator, lobby layout, update occupancy to b, m and r3. I understand there may be an agreement that was just reached on this matter. We can hear from the attorney for the requestor and the attorney for the permit holder. Prior to that, i need to make a disclosure. I wish to disclose that i have a prior business relationship with rubin rubin pars3 m. Jun junius on a separate project and will not have any effect on my decision today. Do we need to start the clock . No. As you may remember, this is about a very large penalty house on the roof of a building by aquatic park. It though the permits are very expensive this is the settlement or the agreement between the parties is just about the penthouse and we have just heard that the developer is going to not bring an elevator to the roof. There will be a small penthouse, maximum of about 6 feet, going just to house mechanicals and our understanding is the roof deck will be made permanently residential, not just, you know, currently approved as residential. So is there something you need the board to do . We were going to we were hoping that you would put this over for a couple months so that permit holder could draw a new plan, get a permit, everybody works at it, everybody nods and then we can drop this request for jurisdiction. Okay. Thank you, commissioner, john kevlin here on behalf of the permit holders. We listened to the boards emphatic concerns at the last hearing in august, we spent some time exploring other options for taking this elevator to the roof. It really was because of the various state and local guidelines it really was going to be impossible to get it down to even 9 foot 6 inches, so ultimately considering both the boards concern as well as the neighborhoods concern we have decided to take it to just the fourth floor. Its a 4story building so it will just go up to the fourth floor as mr. Vinoles mentioned theres about 6 feet or so of mechanical penthouse above that, but the elevator wont be stopping at the roof any more. Procedurally speaking weve got a jurisdiction request here tonight. Weve got a suspended original Building Permit that mr. Sanchez at some point is going to have to unsuspend and also be filing an amendment to that original Building Permit to modify the elevator penthouse. So what we would be happy with is if the board tonight continues this matter for two months so that we can file the amendment to the original Building Permit for the new elevator design, take it through the process, get it issued, hopefully it is, meets the needs of the neighborhood. We dont have any appeals of either that Building Permit or mr. Sanchez unsuspension of the suspension and then mr. Vignoles can withdraw the jurisdiction request. Im here for any questions, thank you. Mr. Sanchez . Thank you, Scott Sanchez, the permit holder did correctly outline the process that needs to happen in terms. Permission revision and with regard to the roof deck and in response to commissioner swigs concerns about the roof deck, i did review all the plans, very clearly label that as roof deck but certainly we would expect that that be continued on any revision permits that it is noted that that is the says depx open space. Anything, mr. Duffy . Is there any Public Comment . Seeing none, commissioners there has been a request to continue this matter. Is that your wish . Commissioners . I think so. Counselors, november 18th . I would move to continue this case to november 18th. Thats to allow the parties to take the various steps they just outlines to resolve the issue, right . Right. On that motion then from commissioner fung, Vice President honda, aye. Commissioner wilson, aye. And commissioner swig, aye. Okay, thank you. That item is continued to november 18th. Thank you very much. Item 5 is next, another jurisdiction request, subject property is at 4631 to 4633 irving street. The board received a letter from Marco Estrada and ascencion landeros, asking that the board take jurisdiction over appeal no. Filed at the board office on august 26, 2015. Permit holder is chad doyle and the project is to demolish a kitchen in an illegal in law unit and legalize a half bath and we will start with the requestors. You have three minutes to present your case. Yes, thank you. Good afternoon, my name is racquel fox and i am here with the tenants who have resided there since 1997. I wanted to make a correction to my brief where it says 1978, they have been there since 1997, exhibit a, the rental agreement, reflects that. They have been there almost 20 years. They have their own separate pg e meter, they do have gas service, they do have their own water, both cold and hot, they have smoke detectors, they have separate bedrooms. They have a kitchen and refrigerator, stove, the ceiling heights are somewhere around 9 to 10 feet, somewhere in that range. First i just want to point out that there are 3 separate mailboxes. There is also 3 separate meters at the property. There are separate bills that come to the family, they pay their own. This is the upper unit, 4633. This is 4631, and this photograph here reflects 4631a, so they do have their own separate meters. Pg e said that if there was more evidence that needed to be it submitted that it would be something that would need to be actually subpoenaed but i do have the tenants here that can testify as to their own payment. Pg e recommended showing you the numbers to the meters. This one ends with 69, the smart meter. This smart meter ends with 68, and then the next meter ends with 70. So basically the family received a notice that was sent june 23rd of 2015, its in english and unfortunately it went to the upstairs unit, 4631, but the tenants did bring it down and they saw that there was an intent to apply for demolition. However, the notice also says that they were going to immediately upon the issuance of the permit get a notice of termination served on them. The way this was strategickally placed they didnt get notice until after the notice period had expired. Also if you look at the section dealing with demolition, the land lord is supposed to give notice to the tenant that they have in fact applied, not of a future intent. Theres nothing we can do about it. Those are kind of in 3 minutes the most i can get in at this point. Thank you. Miss fox, you indicate that the notice was not received by them until after june 23rd . Thats correct. The notice of termination of tenancy that included the actual permit was received august 14th. It was mailed probably at the end of the day on august 11th. But june 23rd, the landlords lawyer did send out a notice that says there is an intent and i believe its their exhibit. Exhibit b yes. If you look at that, it just talks about, that the land board intends to apply and with an intent to apply, thats not enough, we cant move for discretionary review and unfortunately these tenants didnt come to me until after everything had happened. Otherwise we would have done the block notation which we since have done, but in this notice it further says that the owners obtained a require that they will promptly thereafter serve all occupants with a 60 day notice. That wasnt done. I believe the permit issued july 21 but they didnt serve this until after the time period had expired and it seems pretty clear to me that they had a lawyer involved so they could have just as easily served their notice. They werent in pro per and they should have given notice because they sepbltd this premature june 23rd notice. That was going to be my second question. There was two names mentioned as attorneys for them before you came on . Yes, there was let me backtrack. Now were in august. So they received the notice of termination of tenants august 14, two lawyers were at the property that sunday, august 16th and i dont remember their names, i have their card, but they met with all the tenants in the building who each received some notice of termination of tenancy, i think it was owner move in and relative owner move in. At that time these tenants were told there was nothing to be done with their case. Who were they representing . Hold on. The upstairs tenants. They invited them to show up as well. Okay. So thats it in a nutshell. Thank you. We can hear from the permit holder now. Hello, my name is chad doyle, i grew up in San Francisco along with my brother. I have a wife who is a high School Councilor at Lincoln High School and we have been searching for a place to purchase. It became quite clear that inc. Single Family Residences went to a point where we could not afford them so i found a property where i could do a owner move in and i could also do a relative move in so my brother could move back to San Francisco from oakland and i could move closer to where my wifes work is and also my mother, who lives in west portal, looks after our two children. And so in june i went ahead and purchased the property, finally purchased the property, then i had my attorney, because we were going to be doing owner move ins and relative move ins, and so at that point in time my attorney went ahead and sent the california civil code notices to the different tenants. And then at the property so theres two flats and it shows on the 1978 plans that theres two flats and storage area down below. And on everything that i have, including the inspections and Everything Else, said that this was an unpermitted illegal unit and theres notes from the inspectors and Everything Else saying that the electricity used in the illegal unit is tapped off the house meet er and that there is just two gas meters. I am removing it because its not supposed to be there. I see it as a liability in many different ways but i also have always envisioned it as a place where i can use for storage as well as a place where my kids can play. I went ahead and went to the city and after numerous visits i finally obtained my over counter permit, took me like 4 visits down there, and, you know, i waited for the appeal permit to end, to expire, before serving notice to terminate. Thats what i have. Good evening, commissioners, jamie bombard, i represent the permit holder and Property Owner chad doyle the issue is whether the city caused the requestors to be late in filing this appeal. They have not cited anything in their brief inaudible we did provide the tenants with notice as we are required to do under the california civil code of our intent to dmraulish their unit prior to us doing so. Are you finished . Yes, and that is attach toad my brief as an exhibit, along with a report indicating this is in fact a nonconforming unit. Jurisdiction requestors indicated they did not get notice, it went to the upstairs tenant. I cant speak to that. I can tell you i drafted the notice and instructed my office to mail it to these tenants and i have a proof of service indicating it was mailed. Its addressed to 4621a irving street. That was clear in your documentation. And i do know it was sent out as part of a packet of other required disclosures that we must give because my client is a new owner of the property. One of those disclosures contained my clients phone number and address and i do know that the tenants received that because they subsequently mailed a rent check to my client and they were all included in the same envelope as far as i know. Have you folks looked at legalizing the unit under the new City Ordinance . I mean as right now i have not. Right now both of the flats need extensive work. They are both at the end of their life cycles. I am going to be spending money to go ahead and bring those up to date and honestly i dont want to be a landlord. I didnt buy the property to be a landlord, i bought the property and that downstairs area because it goes out to the yard and everything as an indoor outdoor place for my kids to play and to have just for storage of christmas stuff. Mr. Sanchez . Thank you, Scott Sanchez, permit department. This does appear to be on our records, it was constructed in 1978 as a twounit building. The zoning is rh2 which would allow a maximum of 2 units and it would have been rh2 since 19 78. Since that time no third unit would have been able to be added legally. There is a klek lift and review process for that to ensure there are certain requirements that would be met. If they do go ahead and remove the unit now they cannot restore it and try to legalize it later, they would lose that opportunity by removing it now, which would be their choice. The Planning Department reviewed this, approved it, there is no bbn note is on the property at the time that we did review it, theres no notification requirement. Subsequent to the issuance of this permit a bbn request was made on the property so that would be applicable for future permits reviewed by the Planning Department. There is pending legislation i believe at the board of supervisors that would require notification for removal of illegal units. It seems to be both a planning and building notice process so there could be discretionary reviews even filed on the requestor of illegal Living Spaces but that is not yet in place and not yet law. So with that im available to answer any questions. Mr. Sanchez, we see single Family Residences that are allowed, they can legalize the legal nonconforming unit, basically the inlaw. The question i had is regarding the two units, so that would be, if they were to be legalized it would be a legal nonconforming but i heard there are other things that apply when legalizing a third unit rather than just a unit to a Single Family residence. Under the planning code, i think you want to talk to the Building Department in terms of when additional Building Code requirements may be triggered and if it is. Sprinklers. It may be when you go from three or from three to 4 but i would let building inspector duffy address that. If these people are evicted they will give up their right to have the illegal nonwarranty unit. Once the unpermitted unit is removed it cannot be restored, not under the current zoning. Thank you, inspector duffy. Good evening, commissioners, joe duffy, dbi the Building Permit application was filed on the 3rd of july and approved and issued on the 21st of july. It did go through our intake, it went through building plan check, mechanical plan klek and we also routed it to planning, as you know. The building was reflected as a legal two unit two family dwelling. The description was to demolish kifrp enand in law unit and legalize a half bath. It appears the permit was properly issued. Mr. Sanchez, i heard him say there is some pending rules coming up i think about future notifications from dbi on Single Family and two unit buildings whenever the units are being removed, so that may take care of this in the future. Thats not in yet. I havent, it hasnt appeared anywhere in front of me where it has been brought in yet but i do know there is a lot of talk about it as dbi im available for any questions. Thank you. You know, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it might be a duck so i look at a separate water meter, i look at a separate pg e meter and that would mean to me for the number on it that says its a separate address and that would mean it would be a separate address. And i understand from the Zoning Administrator that its zoned for two units and i understand that it was permitted for two units and maybe you can educate me on something. You know, pg e is not a random off the grid electrical supplier and yet there is a brand spanking new meter that was obviously put in recently, significant Electrical Work is there. That would be that wasnt done by some random street electrician, that was done by somebody who is associated with pg e. Where was the permit how did the permit, how does a permit for that occur with a separate address . That was one question. The same thing with a separate water meter. The City Department that supplies water is not a random department that brings in water by buckets, its a real entity and that was, it was obviously a sophisticated hook up and a permit was issued to separate that as another address, i am assuming, so how does Something Like this happen . Here are two very valid recognized supplier of services who put in sophisticated real legal stuff and then they label it with a separate address, yet when its convenient for it not to be a separate address, and believe me i am sympathetic to the home buyer who thought they were buying what they thought they were buying, but i dont understand but im also really sad about throwing a family out on to the street. And i dont understand how something cannot be recognized as a separate dwelling unit when two important vendors of City Services or whatever have been there, permitted and installed meters. How does that happen . Commissioner swig, thats a very good question. I am not, dont work for the Water Department or pg e. I dont know how that happens to be honest with you. How is a permit. Which permit . Im asking to be educated. How does a pg e unit which separates Electrical Service into a separate, into a part of a building that is recognized as a separate address by somebody because it says it, how is that permit issued in direct conflict with what the building is zoned as and in direct conflict as what dbi recognizes . A lot of times we have two unit buildings and we have three electric meters and three sometimes water meters. The third electricity and water is for the common areas so if they are owned separately and billed to two separate units that is the separate one is. Is that labeled as a separate address, thats what is making me scratch my head, that that is billed in that case as a separate address, we saw a separate address and im sure the occupant of that space can provide us with a bill that says a separate address. Instead of a common area it would link those addresses together or the one address this is whats confusing. I dont know what permit, a pg e permit, im not sure what that is. The meter would be put in by pg e. There wouldnt be a dbi permit for an electrical permit. If its just putting in a meter i dont think the electrical, im not sure if theres even an electrical permit issued for that. I dont work for the electrical inspection division. I could find that out for you, theres no problem with that, but theres the address im not sure if thats a legal address or not if it was sought. If this was a two unit building on the cfc for two units, i dont know that dbi would issue a third address for that. I dont know where that address would come from. A lot of times you do see the addresses put up there by people, a or b, Something Like that, but i dont know that theres an actual legal address for the third unit. But its a very good question you are asking me as well with the Water Department. I do see and ive said it here before, you can have multiple meters. The number of meters doesnt always reflect the number of units. Im not saying that in any way on one side or the other here. The Electrical Work, obviously the work done to create the unit wasnt done with a permit. We give a cfc, that grant for storage probably got converted. Its been like that for a long long time. It sounds like with the ceiling heights and all of the attorney mentioned a lot of the things, it certainly sounds like its not, it sounds like theres enough room in there to make a unit if they wanted to legalize the unit is that im hearing if theres ceiling heights and all that kind of thing, they would need to apply for a permit to do that. Its just very hard for me, i know im going to get tripped up potentially by the law or some regulation or the zoning or that its a two unit building, but its just very interesting to me that since 1997 a family has lived there, its very interesting to me that it isnt like many of the other items that have come in front of us where the Electrical Service is off of a 17 principal meter, where the Water Service is all a central meter and a central hot water heater. This one, this one is interesting to me because clearly actions were taken to make this really, like i said , quack like a duck and look like a duck and yet and with a separate address and with bills that are paid by somebody at a separate address, yet when it comes time 18 years later and somebody buys the building then the tenant is given the heaveho, unfortunately. Something is kind of wrong there but i cant figure it out. inaudible the law. Pg e Water Department and dbi went together on all this happening. If you put a unit together and call it a unit, pg e would flag the unit but that may not happen. I dont know enough about it, to be honest about it. Maybe i could bring in the senior electrical inspector, chief electrical inspector in here some night to explain that, Water Department might be to see him. You can get a meter for a unit without actually having a legal unit but i would imagine that conversation would come up as part of it but maybe that meter was put in, as commissioner honda said, for a common area and then used to supply the illegal unit, so to speak. I mean renters, im probably going on too long, but again this bugs me and i think it should bug other people, too, especially when families are being tossed from tenured places where they have had tenure, that a renter renting in good faith, understanding they are going to pay separate water bills, separate electrical bills and therefore making the assumption, which is a dirty word, unfortunately, in some cases that they are renting a legalized unit, stick around for 18 years, are responsible renters, pay their bills, pay their rent, and then are tossed because in the process of a sale, you know, they are gone. I mean the renters dont do the same level Due Diligence as you and i would if we bought the building but theres something makes me scratch my head. Im not here to give advice but i agree with you. Is that it . Thank you. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Seeing none, then, commissioners, the matter is submitted. Not particularly. Ill start, then. As commissioner swig expressed, i particularly dont like this placement, especially in this time that we have. At the same time we have a new home owner coming in with his family and the permits look like they were issued correctly as well as the fact that he is a new owner, the work that was done prior to this was by the previous owner. And so i am leaning towards, you know, approving, or denying the appeal. Unfortunately im of a similar opinion, that the city did not err in issuing the permit and that notice was not required from the city and notice was provided to them. Unfortunately their resources in terms of finding out certain types of legalities may not be as great as others. Commissioners . I said my position. Again i am tripped by, i acknowledge my diatribe, my fellow commissioners are correct in their observation. Its unfortunate and also that which we have already sent to the board of supervisors which they got to take action, they have got to take action on fair notification of tenants of illegal units that are placed in this position. Thats, you know, its unfortunate. But i have to go along with this and i cant find any way to make a motion to deny the appeal. Commissioner. Motion to deny the appeal ocean on the grounds that the city and county did not err. This is a jurisdiction request, so this would be a motion to dough nigh the request. On that motion then from the Vice President to deny the request, commissioner fung, aye. Commissioner wilson, aye. And commissioner swig, aye. So that motion carries with a vote of 40, thank you. The next item is item 6, which is a rehearing request, the subject prompt is at 333 pennsylvania avenue. The board received a letter from robert gonzalez, aplenty, requesting rehearing of appeal 15101, jaromay and gonzalez versus dbi at that time the board voted 31 to uphold on thebasis it was properly issue and the permit holder is ed maiello ive done my homework. So we can start with the requestor, then, mr. Gonzalez, and you have 3 minutes. Good evening. My wife reminded me to smile. As you know the 1932 charter created this board and charged you to provide an efficient fair and impartial hearing for the residents of sfax as the last step in the citys improvement process. The chair reminded me that some 47 years ago i sat on this board and the issues seem to be the same and those years they called us the Peoples Court because we dealt with people issues and it seems after 47 years not too much has changed, you hear peoples issues and they are tough issues. Its up to you to deal with your commitment when you come to serve on this board. As is stated in your own rules, section 5, the board is a quasi judicial body whose decision are rendered based on the evidence that is before the board in the Public Record. On august 26 this board voted 31 to, quote, deny the appeal and uphold the permit on the basis that it was properly issued and code compliant, unquote. There is no evidence in the Public Record to support such a ruling. You will recall that the Zoning Administrator, mr. Sanchez, specifically told the board in answer to commissioner fungs question that the plans approved by the Planning Commission on october 9, 2014, were not before this board for review on august 26. Mr. Sanchez also told commissioner fung that he did not know what changes or revisions, minor tweaks, he called it, were made to the april 2 plans to make them code compliant on october 9. It is an extraordinary circumstance when this board of appeals makes a decision based upon evidence that admittedly was not before it, or in the Public Record. It would be a manifest injustice not to be granted a rehearing on the state of the Public Record here and thats what i am urging. Again there were no facts presented to this board on august 26 that could form the basis for this board concluding that the plans submitted to the Planning Commission on october 29 were, quote, code compliant. The burden to present evidence of a code compliant project was on the developer. They did not bring plans to you that day, as you recall, there were plans given to you that day dated july d 28, some 20 pages of plans that almost verbatim the first page showed the same defebts that were on the april 2 plans. Several garage doors, no landscaping in the front, entrance on the side, the very same things that were wrong with the project from the beginning. So i request that you grant my request for rehearing and lets go ahead and get the matter before you properly and you can rule properly. I believe at this time your ruling was without foundation. Thank you. Thank you, and i apologize, mr. Gonzalez, i needed to make a disclosure prior. I wish to disclose that i have an existing relationship with the law firm of rubin and junius. Their representative of the entity before the board will have no effect on my decision. Pardon me, did you just tell me you are represented in a private matter by the lawyers that represent the developer . Correct. And you are telling me that you can be fair and impartial to both sides . Correct. They had a case here before this evening as well. Im sorry . They had another case before as well earlier in this hearing. Well, i just wanted to be sure what you said about this case. Thank you. Mr. Tunney good evening, members of the board, im tom tunney, rubinson, junius and rose on behalf of the permit holder. We acknowledge that plans that were submitted with the brief were dated july 28, 2014. I dont believe that the appellant has presented any facts or circumstances that are new and that change the boards decision. The question before the board at the previous hearing was whether the 311 notice and the process was proper. We spent a great deal of time and that was the focus of the hearing, talking about whether those requirements were met. And in this case we submit they clearly were. The changes to the project were talked about at the hearing, we talked about the garage door, talked about the landscaping, talked about the change to the light well, we talked about the curb cut that was later shown on the plans. Theres no requirement in the board of appeals rules about the approved plans being provided. The fact is that the site permit was issued because the plans submitted to the department of building inspection complied with the code and the fact also is that this boards decision the 311 process was proper was supported by substantial evidence. The fact that mr. Sanchez may have talked about different changes in the project and it wasnt did not describe the changes the way we did doesnt mean that the boards decision was not supported by substantial evidence. So were available for any questions the board may have. This really is not a dispute about whether the proper plans were provided to the board but its whether the 311 process was proper and we submit that it was. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Sanchez . Thank you, Scott Sanchez, Planning Department. Dont have too much to add. I did request the approved plans from the project sponsor, i received those about 4 00 today, had a brief moment to take a look at that, did see the permability and landscaping on the approved plans, plans stamped approved by the department of building inspection as well as the garage door, single garage door meeting the code requirement. Planning Commission Direction to have the rear stairs incorporated into the building envelope, those are also on the plans. But in regards to having approved plans at the hearing certainly it does, i know it doesnt follow the boards rules explicitly but everyone, certainly it does help the commission to have that Information Available and i would encourage the board to look at whether or not that can be mandated, i dont know if there are certain issues that prevent that from being a requirement but definitely encouraging that of project sponsors would be great. Its an issue not only on this case but it was an issue on the 721 beach street which we had earlier as well as other projects so i think the more that we can require in terms of having approved plans, the better. Thank you. Thank you. Anything, mr. Duffy . No . Any Public Comment on this item . Okay, seeing none then commissioners the matter is submitted. You know, commissioners, the as mr. Gonzalez knows, the process is one where we hear a case and we render a decision the same night. We dont spend, you know, a certain amount of time afterwards, which is like different than certain types of hearing with planning where a decision is rendered subsequently. The question of being able to accurately and comprehensively respond to the major points of an appeal or a case is one thats quite difficult to do. Its not always possible for us to be entirely eloquent in doing that. I find that an issue sometimes where ill think later i should have said this, this and this, but it doesnt mean that the process that we go through in terms of arriving at a decision doesnt take into consideration all of the things that were stated, all of the things that were provided in the briefs. So as far as i was concerned, in this particular case the various issues both procedural and those that related to legalities and to the actual issues with the physical development i believe were things that we took into consideration in totality. Therefore what has been presented in this rehearing request has not provided anything new and therefore i cant support it. I concur with my fellow commissioner. The grounds for rehearing are quite strict and i believe that the merits that were presented were all heard before us. Like my fellow commissioner fung, i did have the opportunity of getting to sleep overnight with it because i got to review the materials, i got to see it on tv, albeit on recorded, and it became very clear to me, one, that the changes had been made as requested to the plans, became very clear to me that proper notices were given as commissioner fung talked about in the previous hearing and so i see no new material thats been presented here tonight that would cause a change in the ruling. Move to deny the request for rehearing. Okay, thank you, commissioner fung. On that motion from commissioner fung to deny the request, Vice President honda, aye. Commissioner wilson, aye. And commissioner swig, aye. That motion carries with a vote of 40 with the president absent. Thank you. The last item on our calendar then is item 7, appeal 15101, Irving Zaretsky versus the Zoning Administrator, the property is at 2835 broaderic street proof a rear yard variance, replace existing rear stairs with new decks and stairs on second and third floors of the three story 3 family dwelling. And we will start with the appellant mr. Zaretsky. 7 minutes to present your case. Im going to split this time with my sister, so about halfway through please let me know. Actually, mr. Zaretsky, you should manage your time yourself. I dont think the staff can let you know halfway. No problem. Board members, i am Irving Zaretsky, coowner of 284547 broaderic street and i am here to address the issue of my next door neighbor to the sought, mr. Jaeger. About three years ago on a random meeting in front of the property mr. Jaeger called me over to show the renovations he was doing inside of painting, changing hard wood floors, et cetera. We looked outside his living room and i suggested to him if he wanted to create a deck similar to ours we would fully support it. We did then and we do now. He asked me if i could recommend anyone who could do the job, and i recommended an engineer who could do the deck. He went there and for the next couple years he worked with him, i was pretty much out of the picture except to get emails of different proposals that he was working on. And at that point he told us in may of 2013 that he has issued a letter to the city requesting for a variance and would he support it and would we support it and we said we would. He wrote the letter, he signed it, he left it in the mailbox of his place for me to take it, i took it to my sister and we both signed it, as did my niece, the trustee of the trust and we submitted it to the city. The letter said that he wanted the identical dimensions and construction as the deck that is on our property. These properties are historical properties, they are on broaderick street, the lots are extremely short, they are 80 feet in length, very small back yards, and we had then received a number of emails from him thereafter showing alternatives until april 17, 2014, at which point the emails stopped. We had nothing else from them at all. On april 17th we had a chance meeting at a plumber at the property, i saw him, he came downstairs in the morning, he asked me to come up, he showed me what he had done, i thought it would look very nice. At that time we really didnt talk about the deck at all, he just gave me the name of a Yoga Instructor and i was waiting to hear from her further. He said he was going to take the material and show it to our neighbor on the south and never heard from him until until 2015 a neighbor on ours wrote to me and asked me if i knew anything about what was going on with 2835 broaderick street, i said i didnt and she said she received a 311 notice. We received no notice whatsoever and we didnt receive any notice for the preapplication hearing, for the variance hearing that occurd on february 25 or for the 311 notification. I contacted the city Planning Department and after back and forth going about it David Lindsay and Scott Sanchez extended the 311 notice until 3 and mr. Lindsay wrote to me as indicated previously the Zoning Administrator has yet to make a decision on your variance request to have a new variance hearing held. His decision is pending the expiration of the 311 notification period. We waited for the 311 notification period, at which time the Zoning Administrator issued his decision and never responded to us at all on what was supposed to respond, whether we were going to get a variance hearing. Therefore we are before you for the first time rather than before the Planning Commission because there was nothing for us to appeal. We were waiting for the Zoning Administrator to let us know exactly what he was going to do with our request to have a variance. We did express to him what our concerns were. I should add that not only did we not receive any 311 notification, the Cow Hollow Association didnt either and after correspondence between Planning Department and inaudible it was made clear they had no record the 311 hearing was ever sent to the Cow Hollow Association, didnt receive any information. At that point we appealed to you, we asked to meet with mr. Jaeger to discuss what can be done to alleviate the problem with the deck is he was expected to do a 5foot deck with a staircase enclosing. He went between 7 and 8 feet and the stairs are attached to it so it is within just about touching the property of don moorhead to the west so that the entire back yard is covered. This is fundamentally against the rules of the Cow Hollow Association to leave the quarter back yards empty to open and public space. We requested to meet with him on june 2nd, he said he would meet with everybody but not with us and he has refused ever since to address the issue so we come to resolution. We support his deck as we did originally on the dimensions that he requested and we accepted on a 5 foot deck and the stairs attached to them. What the Cow Hollow Association suggested is that he move the stairs closer in to the building which is what we suggest as well. He has refused to address the issue. I will let my sister take over from here. Im zeva cardos, i am owner of half the building. I have never ever goten any notices of anything. I met with my brother and mr. Jaeger only once at which time he showed us some plans. It was very small type. I asked him could i have a copy of it to take home and look at it and he said absolutely not. He was very belligerent and we left the building. Thats all i have known. Now the deck that he is proposing to build, besides being on a very short lot, its a 3unit building. Each one has one bedroom and the two top ones have two bedroom units. He wants to come out in the back on the second floor and again on the third floor 7 to 8 foot deck. You can imagine that takes away all your light that comes into our little tiny garden where we have some fruit trees and we are looking at a yard of all the building between filbert and union street. Our lot ends but you see all the open space, thats the beauty of cow hollow. By building these huge decks you take away all our light, all we have to look is the floor of one deck and then a floor of another deck and also his lot is higher than ours. The hill comes down. So it makes it even taller. Its not like building a large deck over the garden and taking away the garden because its on the ground, this is second and third floor. Thank you. What i have to ask you to approve a 5 foot deck and not a 7 to 8 foot deck and to make sure that the stairs are incorporated and doesnt come. Im sorry. Over the yard. Im sorry, your time is up. You will have time in rebuttal. Thank you. Thank ta you, we can hear from the variance holder now. Good evening, commissioners, sydney kanolitz, project sponsor. Obviously if people are concerned they would be here tonight and they are not. The deck was supposed to be similar to what the neighbor has got. The issue that came up about his deck and mr. Jaegers deck is the neighbors deck had spiral stairs that were permitted back in 1982 when his deck was built. Today its not permitted any more. So what we have to do is leave the landing at the top so we wouldnt be required to have a fire wall and move the stairs in to make this work. But honestly otherwise the deck is pretty well identical to what mr. Zaretsky has got. I want to remind you nobody else is opposed to this and he has gone for about 3 years, commissioners, to do decks that are identical to his. Dear members of the board of appeals thanks for letting me speak tonight. As sponsor i submitted this board to implore the board of appeals to approve the variance that has already been made. Its already taken place with respect to this small rear deck and renovation plan. No public process is ever likely perfect. However in this case the sponsor and Zoning Administrator have taken great pains to more than clearly satisfy the spirit and letter of this process, especially with respect to the appellant. The appeal process started in may of this year, as you know. They asserted planning, the appellant did, that they did not receive notice of the sponsors project and therefore we must start the whole process over again. Nothing could be farther from the start. As related in sponsors brief, which i submitted, we have worked repeatedly for several years. Sponsor clearly planned the rear deck and stair renovation plan from the start to be consistent with the one enjoyed by appellant and its renters of many years. Sponsor has the only deck and dilapidated stairs that is original. Of particular import in this case is that sponsor clearly presented its variance plan to all in 2013 and they signed off in writing prior to sponsors submital. Sponsor then worked with appellant for an additional 6 months more on multiple iterations for the location of the code compliant stairs and to build around the existing deck. The code compliant stairs were ultimately as far away from appellants property as possible and embedded as much as possible under current 3 foot minimum requirements. Finally on an on site meeting i snited an iteration, appellant signed off on the revised stairs prior to resubmittal again as evidenced in an email from sponsor to appellant that same day. They also verbally approved this plan again on site. Appellant brought the resubmitted plans to the meeting and said these were the last plans which appellant had signed off but now appellant had additional changes and wanted sponsor to start the project again. Based on appellants history of blocking plans, their plans are clearly ever changing. This is likely where their deck and stairs rlt only one still vacant. The house still sits vacant marchred for appellant in litigation more than 3 years after a tragic fire. inaudible make further mostly unspecified changes. The assertion that members of the project is patently false as appellant was clearly directed from the start and even an assertion of no formal notice cannot be affirmed. Several notices were sent to appellant and be went to his rental property instead of his address. They verbally confirmed they were directed by appellant to hold his mail. Appellant was then given a special 30 day extension to provide comments to the project by the Zoning Administrator but no formal comments were submitted. This i surmise is likely due to the fact that appellant had already signed off on the plans that were submitted. While no public review in common process is ever perfect in this case appellant has been involved from the start and signed off from the plans prior to their submital once submitted and again verbally. The appellant has already been given 30 days to make comments and did not submit any formal comments. Only after the variance was approved almost 5 months after the hearing and the appeal period was set to expire did appellant file his notice to block the project. Sponsor believed appellants repeated approval of the plans, requestings for delays and calls to start the process all overagain are not only opb outrage us hardship but make a rockery mockery of the public process. Sponsor implores the board of appeals to stop the process. Sorry, i know thats a little bit confused but. Must be fun to live on your block, hunh yeah. Ive also brought pictures to show the board all the houses on the block on both sides and the status of our project, aplentys rental unit and then the burntout house on the other side. Would you please show us those . Especially the rear yard photos, if you have them. I dont have the rear yard photos. Im happy to refute inaudible but the stairs go to 6 feet from the Property Line. They are code compliant stairs. They are a requirement of the project. The deck under the circumstances self is 5 feet, thats all it ever was. I have a one to two foot bay window, so its 5 feet from the bay within door. Appellant would like us to build a 3 foot building width deck and would also like us to stagger back the second story deck, which would require a multi structural would require significant additional structural costs and its not buildable. Would you show us the pictures, please . You are out of time. I want to give you that opportunity. So. As you are looking at it, put it on as you would look at it. This, as you can see, is the other side of the block, broaderick street, east facing. All the houses are renovated. Its kind of hard to see here but you can see from basically this is on the lefthand side is the north side of the page, all the houses are renovated on the block. Theres some multi unit buildings on the south side of the east side of the block. This is the west part of the block. And this starts here on the south side again and goes north. Sponsors house is the brown house right here in the middle. Appellants house is to the right of sponsors right covered in trees and then its really impossible to take pictures of the other house but i tried to take it in the third selection here. This is the boardedup house next to the appellants house. We are quite familiar with that address. This is appellants house and then the other locations. And thats from the other side, the corner house on the north end of the west side of broderick street. There is in the brief some reference to existing deck. There is an existing deck and stairs, yes. Where is it . Thats in the back of the house. In the back of the house. Where is it, what floor. The deck runs all 3 floors. Currently . Currently, yes. Your drawings which show existing conditions doesnt show any deck. Yeah, it shows a small deck. No deck on your existing condition drawing. Im sorry, commissioner, but i can check but im almost certain that they do. I looked at it 5 times. So my question is how is this a replacement of existing deck and stair that comes under a different section of the code, the replacement of a nonconforming deck and stair, or more stair. Well, commissioner fung, im looking at the plan right now and it does show the existing balcony and stair. Would you like to show us that . Yeah. Is that drawing a1 . A1. A2. A2 is what you are proposing . No, a2, the unit itself has 4 layouts. Theres a subbasement, thats a garage and studio, a second floor flat and a third floor flat. Im looking at a december 5th, 2013 date. Is that the same date you are looking at . Im looking at november. Its in there, just later on. Okay. All right, they are not appropriate to the case, the other drawings. Im sorry, sir. I submitted as part of the brief earlier submitals to the appellant to show that i had been working with the appellant for a period of time after the code compliant stairs were determined to be required. Then i just submitted that as additional. Your existing decks are how wide . My existing decks are approximately 5 feet deep and probably close to 5 to 6 feet wide. So what was being proposed was a full building width deck similar to what the appellant has. You know, maybe thats why im confused because i think the reproduction wasnt totally accurate. All right, ill figure this out, thank you. Mr. Sanchez. Thank you, Scott Sanchez, Planning Department. The subject property is located within an rh2 district, the building contains, as has been stated, three dwelling units. There is kind of a shallower lot depth than typical at 80 feet. The rear lot requirement is 20 feet and the existing building wall is build out to that required rear yard line. The subject property has an existing stair and landing that go to all floors of the building so what they are proposing is to remove those stairs, keep the landings and then have a new deck build more to the south of that and the stairs that they have will be located on the south side of this away from the appellants property and about 6 feet away from the adjacent property to the south, which is on a deeper lot which extends deeper into the lots open space than any of the properties to the north or the proposed deck and stairs. You heard a little bit about the process of this, had a variance hearing on february 25th of this year. Part of the variance notice process in addition to the mailed notice of owners within 300 feet theres also a large poster on the property about 3 feet tall by 30 inches wide so its a pretty substantial poster. We did have a variance hearing on the matter, there was no opposition to the project on the hearing, i intended an intent to grant the variance. Subsequent to that the section 311 notification was performed in may, beginning on may 6. About 20 days into that mr. Zaretsky made known that he did not receive notice or proper notice of the 311 or of the variance hearing notice. We asked him to hear what his concerns would be in response to our initial request about what concerns he had, we did not receive any concerns, it was more concern about the process, about the neat notice, about the hearing. We did extend the time by 30 days which is from the when the notice went out to when he contacted us saying he did not know about the project. Also at that time when he stated he wasnt aware of the project, we contacted the project sponsor. He provided a signed letter from mr. Zaretsky saying he had no issues with the project. There were no attached plans, there were concerns in our mind and we felt justified in extending the notification period. We asked for comments with regard to the project, i generally understood the impact on the block open space. Cow hollow ended up stating that they had concerns about the extension into the block open space, not of the deck, the deck they felt, the 7 foot 1 projection from the rear wall was acceptable but they had concerns about the stairs which were on the south side of the property away from the appellant and closer to a property which already extended further into the midblock open space than the stairs were proposed. They suggested looking at alternatives, it was our understanding that a spiral stair would not be an option here. Also given the fact that there is a bay window at the rear its 7 foot 1, the deck projection from the main rear wall but when you have the bay window, a shallower bay window, its about 5 feet from the outer face of that bay window, it would be very difficult to manipulate a full set of stairs in this envelope without causing further harm in somes on way. By setting it back from the side Property Line they are avoiding the need for a fire wall. One of the things when i first saw the project i questioned why they were doing this proposal as they are because its, they are notching the deck so if i can show here on the overhead, these are the proposed plans. You can see more clearly here, the portion where the door is, thats existing and we are retaining it, not rebuilding it and not triggering a fire wall requirement then the expanded deck really begins when you go further to the south away from the appellants property. And the set back here is about 5 feet 4 inches from the side Property Line to the deck expansion. So the area of the appellants property really isnt being changed from the existing condition . No. And so thats where we are. Again the issue being, the issue came down to the stairs, it didnt seem that there was another alternative for the stairs, they put it in the best location possible to minimize any impact to the neighbors and in particular to the appellants property and its up against the property that does extend further into the required rear yard. I think that is all. Ill be available for any questions. We have outlined my reasoning and the 5 findings for the variance and they are stated in the materials that you have. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Okay, seeing none, we will take rebuttal starting with the appellants. You have three minutes of rebuttal, mr. Zaretsky. Quickly, a lot of what you heard from the sponsor is not accurate. The existing stairs are 5 feet, they were supposed to go straight across the back with a 5 foot deck and add the stairs on the south side. They are extending it further into the back yard. With regard to the notification there was absolutely no 311 notification to us at all and that was confirmed by the Planning Department after they researched out that nothing was sent to us at our address, we didnt know anything about the preapplication hearing or the variance hearing or the 311. In fact, for todays hearing i contacted miss goldstein. We did not receive the post card that you sent either and as we looked at the list of people that you sent it to, it was sent to the project sponsor both to the residence and to him as an owner, it was only sent to our occupants but not to us. And we have our tax records in which it says Irving Zaretsky, 3111 jackson street, apartment 5. This is both at the Assessors Office and the recorders office. So the process used to resolve these issues was never made available to us at all, including today. We knew about it because we are the appellant. So the question is that the notification for all of these things, when brook sampson on blafr of the Cow Hollow Association asked to meet and resolve this issue, he refused. And we say again that the 5 foot deck is what they asked for, what we agreed to when we sign on to the variance and this has not been extended with the stairs going all the way to mr. Moorheads house. The stairs can be brought closer in, our deck has the exact same bay as he does exempt our bay is square. Its a 13 inch protrusion into the deck. The same thing as his, its a 13 inch protrusion in the back. These are narrow balconies, they are unique because the lot is so short and once you start to build into the lot we lose the open space that we are entitled to have and that cow hollow wants to have. We are requesting once again that he remove the stairs closer to the building and make it a 5 foot deck as was originally intended by him when he requested the variance. It was not an 8 foot deck. Thank you. Thank you. We can take rebuttal from the variance holder. We have no time left. Was there any time left on the clock . There was 30 seconds. Do you want 30 seconds . Okay. Can you set 30 seconds . Would you let us know when 30 seconds have passed. Id like to say it happens in all these cases. You allow something in detriment of the neighbor next door, a year or two later, those people sell. The building remains the way you allowed it. Ive seen it time and time again. Asking you to leave us with some sunlight and do a 5 foot deck and not a 7 and 8 foot deck. Mr. Jaeger always said im going to spend money, im going to get the biggest deck that i can. This is not right. Thank you. We can hear from the variance holder now. Dear board of appeals, members of the board of appeals, sorry again to be inaudible , theres a lot of inaccuracies with regard to the case. I think that regarding the 311 notice, as soon as i heard about this, i checked with the noticing service. They immediately reconfirmed all the addresses that were submitted so they confirmed that the data base they used was correct and sometimes pricing does change from what ive learned, pricing does change in the noticing in the data base pretty regularly but other certain aspects do not. We went through the appropriate notice process, that was confirmed. The addresses were confirmed, we used an appropriate notice provider and they used an appropriate data base. There is potential he did not receive notice but he was given an additional 30 days to comment and did not comment. In addition he had been involved from the beginning of the process very clearly and the sponsor puts forth a set of plans were shown at the time the letter was signed. Theres no way anybody would have signed an approval of a deck without a set of plans and if you check the original submital dates i think you will see that. So in addition for the Cow Hollow Association, i reached out to brook many times, im happy to meet with her as well as anyone in the association. I take this responsibility very seriously of historic preservation. I restored the white oak floors in the house, i restored the plaster walls, i even restored some of the windows. Theres nothing i would do against that. But theres just a tremendous amount of nit picking and i think theres an abuse of the public process. But again i have reached out to brook and what she told me in emails was that her main concern was getting resolution with the appellant and the sponsor and when i met with irving at that time on june 2nd and he had brought the plans that he approved prior that were resubmitted and said these are the last plans i approved and what did you submit since then and we couldnt get the planning submital material because the original structural material on the project wasnt able to put the details in place that we needed. There was a recommendation to bring in an architect which we did and thats why i took an additional 6 months to get through the process. Theres no scheming or anything from our perspective but again i reached out to brook but again her view was that the city of San Francisco sfgtv meeting of the government audit and Oversight Committee for september 17, 2015 will begin shortly. Lets get started. This meeting will come to order. This meeting is the government audit and Oversight Committee for september 17, 2015. To my right is vice chair Julie Christensen and president breed has appointed supervisor mar in her place. Could i have a motion to excuse president breed for the meeting. So moved. Without objection the motion passes. [gavel] supervisor mar will join us briefly. Hes in traffic right now. The Committee Clerk is erica major and the committee would like to recognize the staff from sfgtv who record each of our meetings and make the transcripts available to the public online. Madam clerk do you have any announcements . Please silent all cell phones and Electronic Devices. Completed speaker cards and copies of documents to be part of the file somebody submitted to the clerk. Items will be on the september 29 board of supervisors agenda anyplace otherwise stated. Okay. Can you please call item 1. Item 1 is a hearing to discuss the citys Response Plan in the event of a forest or brush fire within the city and county of San Francisco. Okay. So colleagues i have called this hearing today to discuss the Response Plan and the event of a urban forest or brush fire taking place in San Francisco. I want to make it real clear my intent here is to really listen, just to the Fire Department, and to Emergency Management department to really see if were really ready for this type of situation. I know theres been some confusion on this issue. People are thinking that this is about cutting down trees and its not, so i want to make it real clear to the audience and watching this on tv that this is about being ready for forest fires that can happen in the city. As you know San Francisco has many areas that consider many forests. There are places like telegraph hill. Russian hill, mt. Davidson. Golden gate park just throughout San Francisco you have these small areas of heavy vegetation, and i grew up in the russian hill area and i remember as a little kid on the backside of the home basically is a big huge area of everybodys backside in which there were no fences. It was basically vegetation back there and one day it caught fire, and about seven or eight homes got heavily damaged. This was in the 50s, and one of the things that i didnt when i was watching as a kid the firefighters i realized how difficult it was them to get in there to the back, climb up the hills and so forth and that left a mark on me in realizing that fighting that type of fire is really different from fighting a fire of a building, so and here we are. Were faced with a four year drought. Vegetation throughout San Francisco, throughout the bay area, throughout california is rather dry. Even San Francisco is blessed with what we call the natural air conditioning, the fog, it doesnt take that much, that many days like you have two weeks ago when the weather was very hot. A couple of days of hot weather, low humidity will just provide or give you the condition that can be very, very awful for fires, and today is not about lets hope there is going to be a fire. I hope there never be a urban fire like the Oakland Hills in the 90s or if anybody has been around long enough there was the Beverly Hills fire in the 70s. We dont want that to happen in San Francisco but the question today were trying to answer is if there is a fire that catches, whether its a brushes or trees or whatever, are we ready in San Francisco . So thats what were going to answer today. As you know we have seen the deftation just this week of the valley fire in napa, lake and sonoma counties with 61 probably growing. Its more than 61,000 acres of burned area with almost probably i would say 600 homes that got completely burned down. This is just really a reminder we must prepare in San Francisco. I hope this hearing will be fruitful in the discussion how our City Departments and how our constituents can work with these departments to do their part to ensure that families and loved ones that safe and our city remains resilient, so first up i would like to call on chief hayeswhite to maybe have some opening remarks and call her staff to talk about this issue. Thank you. Good morning chair yee, supervisor christensen, joe an hayeswhite San Francisco Fire Department. I would like to applaud you supervisor yee and not only youre in my district but i dont recall in my time as chief we had a discussion in the legislative branch of government on this topic so its very timely as you referred there has been great devastation throughout our state throughout the last several months including the fact that we had 30 firefighters deployed. We just had 22 return last night from the butte fire and then we have remaining eight at the valley fire, and so everyone loves to come to San Francisco, but it is challenging from a firefighter perspective. I was a training director for four years and the bulk of training is in relg to structural fight fighting but we have things in the city as you mentioned and the Golden Gate Park and the presidio and a whole number of areas. Also under the freeways there is vegetation as well, so we pride ourselves on training. We have componentos wildlife Fire Fighting and we have groups able of the master mutual aid agreement with the state and we deploy our firefighters per that agreement throughout the state to help battle fires so what we prepared today is a presentation on our resources that we have, some of the training that we have, and then were certainly able to answer any questions for you. I am very appreciative and sensitive to the fact that we have beautiful open space here in San Francisco. As a mother of three boys weve enjoyed many of the parks and so forth although as fire chief i have children just to make sure there is a balance between vegetation as well as good solid urban Forestry Management to mitigate the fuel load as we would call it, and proper attention, and Forestry Management, so i would like now to introduce the deputy chief of operations, Mark Gonzales and give you an update on the vegetation fires in the city and followed by lieutenant mary shea from Fire Prevention and talk about the collaborative efforts with department of public works and recreation and Park Department and a Good Partnership existed and were going to continue to remind everyone including our partners at ucsf. We went through a process two years ago where they did significant training and creation of Defensible Space and were looking at those things as well with them so at the end of the presentation were happy to answer any questions. Good morning supervisor mar as well. Deputy chief gonzales. Good morning supervisor yee, supervisor christensen, supervisor mar. This is my presentation. Its on the urban wild land interface operations. Can you pull it up . Okay. Thank you. So the first slide is just showing from 201215 the types of calls weve had. The list of call types theyre including graphs, brush and vejingtation and vegetation and forest and including trees. This shows some of the specialized equipment we had for a while. Right now theyre stationed in the southeastern part of the city. As chair yee mentioned we have fog and even during the drought the rest of the city, the west and the northwest gets the fog. The best weather is in Hunters Point southeast so thats where its driest and one of the concerns is mclaren park so the four minipumpers are in that area and we have front line stations in the city and a lot of those companies have been trained with immediate need and trained with wild land operations and the chief mentiond that we have over 200 firefighters that do that. The main prusmers able to access areas not accessible by the engines and carry water and equipped with smaller hoses so theyre maneuverable and get in and out quick. We use the minipumpers at special events and get in and out of crowds for trash fires or vegetation fires within the events. Some of the tools that are carried on the minipumpers and some of the engineers one is a pulaiivegy and its on one head and rigid handle of fiberglass. Its a versatile tool for fire breaks and dig soil and chop wood. Often time there is is a little fire up on bush or brush they can knock it out with this and just smoother it. Second specialized tool the mccloud. This combination of rig and tools used by firefighters to cut through things and declare loose surface material. The next slide we have five of these engines that we bought from the state for a pretty good price a few years ago. When we send a strike team out as we did to the butte fire this is the five engineer engines we sent out and it was assistant chief franklin and brought an assistant with him so theyre assigned by the state to the fire whether its structure defense or setting up a defensive line. A lot of the other equipment is wild land use and shovels and the things i mentioned before and wear different personal Protection Equipment so the turn outs and pants that we wear in the city are a lot heavier and these are lighter and there is still Fire Protection but you can imagine being in the heat all day long and going through a diagram yoga class and the training as the chief mentioned. Happens every year as part of our training. We adopted the state interface wildlife manual and be consistent with the state and we work with them on the operations. Could i ask a quick question . Yes, sir. In regards to the 200 firefighters thats been trained how many of them have actually gone taken part in these strike teams or had experience find fighting these fires . I dont have those stats in hand. I would say most of them. Definitely with the last few seasons weve had they have all gotten to experience it i would venture to say. I do know that 2025 years ago when we went out not as many were trained at all. We were city firefighters. We did some of the things if parks or guards got caught we sent them out but we didnt have the minipumpers and training. I am comfortable that all of the firefighters went through this need but as well as this component its 200 so theyre planned to go out on the strike teams and like if Oakland Hills happened again we would pick from the 10 engines we have trained in that specialty as well. Thank you. The next i skipped ahead too much. So the next slide is 2014 is just a grass and outside fire responses. You could see it better on the map here. I thought it show up better on the screen but its denoted by the red flag icons and dispatch called for multiple units is by the blue icons and you cant tell by the size of the map. I apologize by that. If theyre bigger we went to the same area more than once. The little red engines and you can barely see them off mic . Bought from the state. Theyre also in the southeastern part so whether we get called for the mutual aid deployments the process is the engines go to 19th and forsom and meet up with the Strike Team Leader and assistant and grab the equipment there and take off whether going north, south, east supervisor christensen. Can you bring the map up . When we see it closer its easytory read so understandably it seems like some of these are occurring under the edges of Golden Gate Park, some of the open land, but i am seeing clusters of them along major roadways so are those dots that i see and bay street or the embarcadero in the northeast . Yes, where there are patches of open land but actually there is a big correlation if you noticed near the freeways, so a lot of open lands that caltrain has and caltrans excuse me. 101, 280, 80, all along and open patches of lands that we respond to do knock those out. So i am imagining your tracking probable cause for these as well. The roadway could be cigarettes or automobiles but we have encampments in some of the areas. If its not obvious to the officer if its a single unit or a multiunit we send out the task force to find out what the cause is. Would you hazard to guess what the most frequent cause is . I could guess and say youre probably on the right track. Yeah, so its inhabitants or a cigarette and at the off ramp and a bush to the right they throw it out, one or the other. Thanks. We had a pretty good size fire that i consider urban wild land interface but were not considered that type of city. Its a different definition. Its forest near a city. With the fire on the east side, you may remember that and affected the bay bridge traffic a couple of years ago and pretty significant and as i mentioned mclaren park can get going pretty well. The last slide is from 2015 same call types, the imagines are in the same. Engines are in the same place but our objective is protect lives and civilian and department and members and protect the structures and mitigate the situation and i am proud of our teams and they have done a really good job. These fire conditions are [inaudible] members havent seen. Theyre creating their own weather systems and imimpressive of the job and i am proud of them. If you have any questions i am glad to answer them. You talk about other areas of mutual aid and i assume its reciprocated also if we ever needed help . Thats correct. Okay. Which i guess county that would be were in region two. There are six regions in the state. Were in the 1 2 of the region two and its made up of 90 counties. We have an agreement with them. More immediate need we go to front line engines. Everyone else and mutual aid sends five engines and strict strike leaders and we will send out what we can but we have to maintain the fleet in the city. The concern in the city is we have wood buildings in the districts and theyre all next to each other so we need to keep our fleet of engines up to partoo and were trying to get that done as well. Do you know if these other locations, other counties, whether or not theyre as well trained as our firefighters . I would say some i would say most just as or sometimes more because thats what they do predominantly. Thats primarily what they do. And in regards to we have engines here and again theres some freak thing that happened and something gets out of hand do we have access to air lift of water what do you call those airplanes that dump the water . We can order on anything we might need from the state and if the state has the asset we would get it. Do you know where the closest plane would be . I have heard this is pointed out. Last i heard moffett field. Theyre close if we need them. So they can get here within 30 minutes . Now, i would venture to say no because most of the planes are busy at the other fires. Right. But historically throughout the citys history we have never done that. Okay. Supervisor mar. Quickly i wanted to ask about the Golden Gate Park dispatching and also theres an area in Central Heights where the cliff house is where there have been a number of incidences according to the maps and old houses with big backyards that butt up against city and federal property but i see there are single unit dispatches and multiple unit dispatches and there has been some changes in patterns from 20142015 but when its multiple unit dispatch my guess is thats a more severe fire so youre using more units . Theyre want final call types the way it was pup pulled up and initial call types and what they said to the 911 taker and oftentimes theyre people camp fire down by the beach but we had a good fire there i remember in the last two years that was going pretty well and actually some of the companies were asking for minipumper engines over there and its a compromised area and it would entail getting another minipumper which is a little bit of money. Right. And most of the Golden Gate Park is in district 1. I see that the katy tang district site had significantly more for an increase in a year of the single unit dispatches along lincoln way and do you see patterns and changes like that as the homeless shift isnt park . I would agree where youre going with that maybe. I havent been around Golden Gate Park lately. My travel is from Bernal Heights in that area but i dont know if the Homeless Population has increased in Golden Gate Park. I dont know. The last thing i wanted to complement you on a tie clib and it looks like a pulaski and its cool. I can give you one. Lets make sure we all get one. Okay. Lieutenant booshay for the rest of the presentation. Hi. Good morning. Lieutenant mary shay with the Fire Prevention at the Fire Department. As you can tell im trying to prevent fires so from my end i try to do what i do to prevent fires. Regarding the management of forest and brush fire in San Francisco from prevention we got a look how the city is like. Although we cannot really say were totally a wild land urban interface Area Supervisor as you know we have pockets that we consider so. One of the main and important things about San Francisco were a urban city that doesnt fall under chapter of the city code and deals with other zones and the other important thing that the Fire Protection of responsibility of San Francisco falls under the local authority, not federal and thats the fire chief and San Francisco and based on cal fire the topography and the fuel we have the city falls under a rating for fire hazard severity and our main concern is through the maintenance of over grown weeds, grass, vines and other vegetation. The Fire Departments Weed Abatement Program. We enforce the code of the california fire code. That section specifically states that weeds, grass, vines and other growth th is capable of being ignited and endangering property is cut down and removed by the owner or the occupants of the premises so some direction that we get or the Building Owner or occupants of the premises could get is from title 19. Some of the examples i list here is a safe fire break of at least 30 feet is maintained around any buildingoir occupy eansz. Any portion of a tree extending within 10 feet of outlet of chimney or stove pipe shall be removed. Any dead or dying portion of a tree adjacent or over hanging a building should be removed and free of needles and leaves and dead vegetative growth so those are the guidelines that we provide owners when we identify a hazard. Our Weed Abatement Program one of the agencies we work is with the department of public works. With them annually we send out a joint later to Building Owners who own problem buildings that we know and a history of complaints of weed, grass hazard over grown vegetation. We send this later two weeks prior to july 4 and instructing them they need to abate inspect the property and abate any weed and grass hazards. The Department Also conducts inspections in neighborhoods and areas where weed and grass problems have been reported. Reports of weed and grass problem can be received through the following channels. Some of the examples are 311, a report can call, email or through united postal mail send the complaints to the Fire Department to headquarters. A report can do a walk in. They can walk into our headquarters and report it. They can walk into fire house and report a problem. One of the Biggest Group of reporters are actually field firefighter, staff because they know the area well and respond to and if they see something they would notify us. Once a complaint is received and inspectors is sent out to do an on site inspection to determine the validity of the complaint. If there is merit to the complaint we notify the owners and occupants of the premise to abate the hazard and if a owner fails to comply with that request to abate we have the option to issue them a violation. Although the first course of action is get the owner to understand the danger of the weed and grass hazard and get them to comply. Now we have any owner that refuses to comply which is very seldom, or we cannot locate an owner that is more likely the case and its an abandoned lot or its determined who owns the space or whose jurisdiction it is. We would send a referral request to the department of public works asking them for assistance and once we ask for assistance and we try to work now this time with the department of public works and get compliance. If we cant get compliance for whatever reason within 10 days then dpw have the option to abate the hazard first and bill the owners later. The main goal is abate the hazards first and the Fire Department oh sorry. paused . More than anything and as fall comes around it dies off, but i cant give you exact number. I can only tell you where the peak season is and usually around summer and peaks around summer and towards fall it tapers down. I am actually less interested in the exact number. I am just curious about the scope. Is it in the thousands or hundreds or tens . I would say its in the hundreds. Its not in the thousands. Thats for sure. Its in the hundreds and its kind of isolated in certain areas we can tell. Like we wont see anything downtown but we see a lot like near the Hunters Point bay view area where there is more open land and a lot around freeways. Yeah. Yeah, kind of like that. You can see a trend. Bernal heights gets a lot, like that. Okay. And then when you get these complaints do you feel again when you get the hundreds would you say that most of them are legitimate complaints or do you find that a certain percentage really arent hazardous at all . I would say about half. A lot of time its more like a neighbor does not like the other neighbors tree hanging over their yard, hanging over their roof than anything and i hate to say that a lot are like that. People usually keep their property very well unless they cant upkeep it like the seniors. They might have trouble and we work with them rather than hitting them with a notice of violation. We try to find people that could help them like locate their children and guardian. Problems that we have a lot more abandoned or empty lots and we dont have any in San Francisco to tell you the truth. Okay. Any other questions . Seeing none thank you very much. Thank you. So next speaker i would like to bring up is from the department of Emergency Services. Yes, sir. Supervisor yee and supervisor christensen and supervisor mar thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to speak. Ip i am the assistant Deputy Director with the department of Emergency Management. When we think about disasters in phases. We have prevention, mitigation, preparation response and then recovery. Lieutenant shay was talking about that prevention piece, what can be done . Chief hayeswhite talked about mitigation. What we try to focus on is some of the perforation. How do we work citizens to talk about Public Safety . And preparedness and we direct them to a website to what they can do if a disaster happens, in this case a significant fire, and were are responsible on the preparation size for the large planning and something happens and when we behind and to the right of the Fire Department and the Police Department to support whatever happens. It starts with the 911 call center. When the call comes in deputy chief gonzales talked about the coordination of resources and once on scene were there to support the Fire Department with the appropriate response. We take care of warning and notification system and if there are directions to give to the residents we can do that and once if the event is large enough we may then open the citys Emergency Operations center and coordinate agencies and department of health and Human Service agency and like the red cross or Salvation Army and the idea is that we create that Common Operating Picture for all city agencies so we know if there is some support needed from fire or Law Enforcement we can provide that. One of the big places where we come in is in the recovery phase and have individuals misplaced and think back to the mission fire last year and after the blaze was put out Law Enforcement was securing the area but we have residents displaced and we brought togetherlet task force and the homeless groups to find places for our residents to g were also the connection between the state and federal agencies. We brought in the Small Business association to help the businesses in the bottom of that structure affected, and when needed similar to when fire may deploy we have our own assets deployed right now to the valley fire to help with the Operations Center and learn about the sheltering needs they have and how to coordinate it so were there to before the event help the citizens get ready. During the event to support Law Enforcement and fire, and then after the incident to make sure that we get our citizens back to a state of normalcy. Okay. If we do need help from other jurisdictions, other counties in terms of this mutual agreement who actually contacts them . Is it the Fire Department or your department . It depends on the type of resource. The chief could probably explain specifically and correct me if im wrong. There is a master mutual aid agreement that deputy chief gonzales mentioned and its exercised regularly and they have protocol in place to order the resources. If its not fire, emergency medical then it would come to the department of Emergency Management and we go to the Coastal Region of the California Office of Emergency Services and make requests to them for the need, whether its sheltering resources or whatever the need is. Okay. So if the Fire Department needed mutual aid then i assume it would be from their request would come from the Fire Department to other jurisdictions. Is that correct . Thats correct. Okay thank you. I am glad this coordinated. Thats the idea. Other questions . Seeing none. Thank you for coming here. Next up i would like to finally invite the fire marshal from ucsf and present on what they have done to prevent a forest or brush fire occurring in the area surrounding will campus. [inaudible] chairman yee, supervisor christensen, supervisor mar thank you for inviting me for this and i am former cal Fire Department chief and have a lot of experience. I wanted to discuss the efforts at the mount sutra Mountain Reserve and i am responsible for the fire assessment at ucsf and were the responding agency as you heard if a fire breaks out in that area. We have an excellent working relationship with chief hayeswhite and her staff. San francisco Fire Department is one of the premier and happy to have them here. We own the 63acre reserve and maintains the open space and originally planted in 1886 and there are a primarily tree species there and we maintain the reserve, ensure the safety of visitors and buildings and neighboring homes. Several buildings including the hospital and the central utility plan behind the report provides the power for the complex. The regeneration medicine building built on the cliff its the unique building on the side of the mountain and the adjacent to the reserve. Ucsf [inaudible] san miguel housing complex is in the area and houses students and families and adjacent to neighbors hopes. We are committed to have the reserve as a resource and staff is responsible for the maintenance and collaboration with other departments. Daily maintenance is performed in house by two full time forestry technicians and professional landscape and Tree Companies and regular maintenance includes maintaining and establish the trail system, addressing hazardous or fallen trees. Every two, three fiscal years we have aar boshist come in. And maintaining along road and roadways building adjacent to the reserve. Our nonprofit partners build and maintain trails and a nursery and provide thousands of hours of trail work each year. Our fire Hazard Mitigation efforts in 2013 we were concerned about this and collaboration with forest experts and the San Francisco Fire Department to look at the risk and we aggress that these conditions existed in the reserve paused shrubs and mowing non woody plants. We continue to monitor the area and ensure the safety of structures and visitor to the trails. In the two years since we performed this work much of the vegetation has grown back and we plan to repeat this work this fall. If the department agrees with our agreement we plan to revisit the work that was done two years ago. In conclusion ucsf understands the value of this open space reserve that brings to San Francisco and were committed to maintain the reserve as a public resource. Our priority is protect the hospital, neighbors and visitors. We want to work with the San Francisco Fire Department and stakeholders and mit giet any fire risks and keep it safe and accessible. You can see on the over head can you see that . Okay. This is an indication of the work weve done. Its little hard to see on this screen, but you can see its a buffer mitigation effort around the reserve itself. And do you have any questions . I cant tell by this map, but the reserve that youre talking about doesnt cover all mount sutro, does it . Its the wooded area up there. Even on the other side of the hill. Yes, sir. I didnt realize that. Where would the sutro tower be on this map . I dont know exactly where its at. [inaudible] off mic . Okay. [inaudible] off mic . On the east side. [inaudible] okay. And theres a private section. Right. [inaudible] okay. [inaudible] i mean [inaudible] where is it . [inaudible] off mic . Right here. The tower is on the legend the tower is where the legend is placed so you cant see the tower. Yeah. That gives me a better orientation of what i am looking at. I dont have any questions but thank you for being a Good Neighbor in San Francisco. Sounds like youre doing the right thing in terms of preventing doing the things that will prevent any disasters and working closely with our City Departments. Thank you very much. And we enjoy your trails. Thanks. Actually those trails a lot of people dont even know about. Okay. Are there any Public Comments on this item . [inaudible] on this item, Fire Prevention . The valley fire because 17,000 for the restrugz were destroyed. As a holy leader, holy representative of [inaudible] human disaster [inaudible] from the families and structure natural order and management and [inaudible] from holy practices. Mission parkway and concentrate too much on the [inaudible] of gloria glory and economics and [inaudible] great disaster. Denise louie. I am here as a San Francisco native voter and taxpayer and i want to say thank you to everyone for bringing attention to this problem of stands of trees around the city that have been unirrigated, stressed and are now dying that represent a hazard because they can fall over and hurt us or they can fuel a fire storm so i would like to say that i will i would like to ask rec and Park Department and the rest of the city officials for example what about those trees along oshaughnessy in glen canyon that can hurt or trap people on the new handicap access path that parallels oshaughnessy . What about the silver tree preschool . Have those families been alerted to the fire risk, the danger . Do they have an evacuation plan, fire drill . What if the children are trapped in the canyon . These are all things to consider. Okay. Thank you. I think that this is a phenomenon in San Francisco and we need to think about the real risk to our housing stock, our use of water in case of a big fire, and the liability to the city in the case of people and property get hurt or damaged. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other Public Comments . Good morning government and oversight. Its going to be a cool night and were going to see this item by the fire light, and i hope it works out right. I thought you should know. Its going to be a cool night, and were going to work out this item. Make it work out right, and its going to work out and i hope you give it a go. Its going to be a cool night and were going to make this item work out by the fire light, and its going to work out right, and i thought you should know. Thank you. Nice seeing you again. Its always hard to follow a song. My name is Sally Stephens and i just wanted to talk about two things. One is theres rec and park is in fact has plans to cut down trees just because theyre not native and replace with grass land and we know its flammable and thats where the fires start and spread rapidly so i hope in all the discussions that the Fire Department is having on managing things whether they talk with rec and park that theyre focusing on some of the changes that are going on and the transformations of the landscape that are going on that could potentially creating a greater fire risk especially with ignition and things like that, and the other thing that people forget about is the golden gate Recreation Area is also doing major landscape transformations. You have the fortthumbsom and covered with ice plant and mitigates fire because of the water in the plant. Thats all taken out. Ocean beach a lot is taken out and replaced with grass lands so i hope when the city is working on Response Plans and things like that that theyre working with them as well and make sure theyre not doing things that might negatively affect the people around lake merced or inut outer sunset in god forbid a fire should start there or take off in that sort of thing. Thank you. Thank you. Any other Public Comments . Come on up. My name is [inaudible] and i live in district 7 right at the foot of mount set ro. I think one of the things we heard first i would like to thank the Fire Department and yourself for organizing this. Its been a very interesting morning for me. One of the things that weve heard is that the western side and the northern side is less vulnerable because of fog and i just wanted to talk a bit about that. Living where i do i see the fog coming in to mount sutro all through the summer and in fact very often the forest is wetter in summer than it is in winter. There was actually standing water there a few days ago even before it started raining because what is happening the trees precipitate the fog. They precipitate the fog moisture and the under story holds the water so in some cases reducing the vegetation increases the fire hazard because what happens instead of having vegetation that holds the moisture you end up with flammable vegetation that dries out more quickly and its one of the things we should take into consideration rather than applying these rules. Thank you. Hi. My name is anastasia [inaudible] and listening to this presentation and people generally know that brush and shrub and dry grass are much more flammable than trees especially [inaudible] trees, and you know the plan which is coming up for certification soon and replace [inaudible] with something called native grass and shrub habitat and i dont think its a very wise thing to do and mclaren that has more fire danger than where i live and 800 trees are going to be removed and something native is planned. This native stuff is very flammable. Okay. What is happening on Mount Davidson and [inaudible] and area program. What they do is they kill they use herbicides very toxic and they kill the vegetation and leave it there so you can walk there and see the [inaudible] which was killed and left in place and i dont think its good for the fire, you know, for fire safety. Just recently posting limited posting all the [inaudible] eastern side of the Mount Davidson are dead, brown. There was posting say i they were going i didnt see it again. They didnt post and use toxic poisons. One was just recently classified a probable carcinogen and this program should be changed with the Forest Management for fire safety thing. This is really dangerous what theyre doing. Thank you. Thank you. Any other Public Comments on this item . Seeing none. Public comment is now closed. [gavel] i want to thank the Fire Department and the Emergency Management department and ucsf for being here and giving your presentation. I wasnt too sure as i said in my opening remarks that i wasnt sure where we were at in terms of being prepared for one of these rare urban forest fires, and after hearing todays presentation i feel very confident that San Francisco is very prepared and i feel also that this corination between the departments to make sure that we dont have something happen where one is pointing a finger and saying wow i thought the other department was going to take care of this and i think ucsf is a good example how to take care of a certain area and working with the neighbors to do this, and in regards to the message here i am hearing is all of us in the city, the residents, play a role in preventing any disasters to happen. The reporting mechanism that we have to complain about certain things we shouldnt look at it as a complaint, but more of a Good Neighbor pointing out something that maybe dangerous to other neighbors, and thats a good thing, so if there are residents that feel like theres some areas or a lot or whatever that seems to be in a position of starting being a fire hazard they should really report it. What i heard is that not all of them are going to be considered dangerous, but let the experts here, being the Fire Department, remember whether its dangerous or not and not us as residents that know less about this stuff so thats my comments. Any other comments . Seeing none okay. Seeing none so this item is closed. Again i want to thank the public for coming out and making their comments. [gavel] mr. Chair would you like to make a motion . Oh yeah, can i have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair. So moved. So objection so the motion passes. Go ahead madam clerk could you please call item two. Item two is a hearing to present the comprehensive annual Financial Report, single audit and management letters prepared by the citys external auditors. Good afternoon mr. Chair, supervisors. Ben rosenfield city controller. I will describe what this hearing is and turn it to others in the staff and the external auditor to present. As youre aware each year at the close of the fiscal year we work with departments to compile statements that reflect the citys Financial Health and required disclosures and those documents are compiled by us which in this sense were serving as management, and then each year the Audit Committee of the board and the board of supervisors itself retains an external financial auditor to review those statements and comment directly to you, the Audit Committee of the board of supervisors regarding their findings and a normal check and balance that exists in governmental accounting and Management Practices so were here today to interviews those external auditors to you and talk you through their findings for the last years cafr, our comprehensive annual Financial Report and to talk you through their audit plan for the fiscal year end process that were in the midst of so thank you for your time today. I will turn it over to carmen lafrank in the Controllers Office that leads this office for us. Thank you. Hi. Good morning supervisors yee, mar, and supervisor christensen. So as ben mentioned we have this hearing every year to allow the auditors to present their findings and their audit plans, so before you have a list of the speakers. Its going to be kpmg our external auditor, the senior manager will present the audit plans and results of last years audit and have mgo and annie louie is the partner and present the findings and plans. And then we also have a representative from the airport who received a finding this year, wallace tang and miguel [inaudible] from the department of technology and we also have other speakers available from departments for the single audit find focusing you have questions and i am available. I will turn it over right now. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Good morning. My name is jamie and a senior manager with kpmg and i will be presenting we are performing right now. Okay. We will be presenting kpmgs audit plan for the 2015 audit as well as recapping the 2014 audit. You will see here we will start with our engagement team. Overall we have a lead engagement partner nancy rose and concurring review partners. The managers including myself are assigned to each of the departments that were responsible for auditing. Overall we have good continuity. Each member partner as well as senior associate and manager are repeating over the past three years on the engagement. So to just to the audit objectives our objectives is express an opinion on the Financial Statements prepared by management. We provide reasonable but not absolute assurance that the Financial Statements as a whole are free of material misstatements due to error or fraud. What this overall means that we audit to a materiality level. We audit and test the design of key controls of the accounts with significant risks. To move on to the responsibilities the statement of auditing standards require us to disclose roles and responsibilities within the audit so the next slides you will see here are the responsibilities of management, the Audit Committee or governance as well as the auditors so i will not go through all of these in detail, but i will point out key once of management, so the key ones being the fairly presenting a Financial Statements in conformity with the general accepted accounting principles and maintaining control of reports and the statements do not relieve those of auditing and management of their responsibilities. As far as our responsibilities as your auditors we conduct the audit in accordance with the professional standards to obtain a reasonable assurance whether the Financial Statements are free of misstatement as i indicated earlier. Its not designed to detect error or fraud material to the Financial Statements and overall we will provide a communication of significant deficiencies and material weaknesses of internal control to management and those of governance and contact the audit with professional skepticism and governing auditing standards. One thing to note in regards to other information and documents containing audited Financial Statements several reports may have an introduction or statistical data which we do not opine on this information. We do read the data for reasonableness and identify inconsistencies or misstatement of facts. Anything that is not resolved account lold up the could hold up the issue of the report or modify the opinion. To move on to the audit plan our scope of work for the 2015 fiscal year consists of the following departments. The San Francisco Health Services system, the municipality municipal Transportation Agency, mta, the Public Utilities commission and the San Francisco international airport. We perform the single audit for mta and sfo as well as additional agreed upon procedures for mta and we issue an additional report for puc on the balancing account of the water enterprise. These audits are performed with general accepted accounting principles and auditing standards as well as government auditing standards. To recap of the 2014 audit results all of the departmental audits we issued opinions for were clean, unmodified opinions. We did have one deficiency that we have reported for the airport in regards to timely reviewing of monitoring of Capital Asset records. This finding the management recorded adjustments of Capital Assets related to items that didnt meet this definition of Capital Assets, assets no longer considered existing and assets which appreciation was calculated using this formula so an adjustment was made. We provided a recommendation to management to perform the annual reviews of the fixed assets and focus on the appropriate accounting and transactions. At this point in time as were in midaudit were are testing the remediation of this and that is still in process. One disclaimer in regards to Public Offerings if it should be the case that the city wish to incorporate the Financial Statements in our report into offerings securityings we are required to perform procedures to events and updates and consider whether the manner of the presentation is appropriate. The procedures would be under a separate engagement letter compared to the engagement letter of the audit Financial Statements. In regards to the audit timeline and key dates so we completed our planning and interim filled work of the departments in may and through august. Final field work is start. We started here in september and that will go on through january. Our deliverables and target dates so the puc we plan to issue that audit report on october 16 and have that be the first one out and the remaining departments will follow the following week of october 23. We will issue the significant deficiencies report on october 23 as well, and then the single audit and other report will fall in line to be issued by january 31. And lastly we always like to disclose that we are independent with respect to the city as defined by the terms of the professional standard. So i will stand for any questions or comments. Colleagues any questions . Seeing none. I guess in terms of the deficiency from the airport mr. Tang is going to address that later . Yes. Okay. No questions. Thank you. Thank you. So next we will have andy louie of mgo present her results and plans and have the two departmental representatives speak to the findings and one for the airport and the other for department of technology. Thank you. Good morning. I am from mgo, one of the partners on the citys engagement. I am here to present the fiscal year 1314 audit results and the plan for 1415. So first i would like to go over the scope of audits for mgo and annual Financial Statements or the cafr for short. The single overall audit is for the federal awards, the retirement system, the [inaudible] agency of the redevelopment agency, the two hospitals, the port of San Francisco as well as the finance corporation. I adopt to point out that the citys cafr incorporates separate Financial Statements audited by kpmg as mentioned in the previous presentation. In terms of the audit results for the Previous Fiscal Year we issued opinions on both the citys Financial Statements as well as the single audit. That is the highest level of assurance you can receive for these. We issued reports related to the internal reporting and compliance and i will go over later in the slides. We issue a separate report directly to this committee and that report includes communications under professional standards as well as our audit authorization from the various audits. So in the next two slides i will go over the required communications. 22 of the. Two of the items that were required to communicate to the governing body is the professional standards and timing, scope of the audit. We communicated those two items in the previous audit plan that was presented last year. The remaining required communications which i are list on the slide are included in the report to and report to the gao and these are standard items that require to communicate. What i do want to point out in the report is under number 3 qualitative aspect of accounting aspects under this item refer in the report talks about new pronouncements that are required to be adopted by the city in terms of accounting treatment and accounting presentation so during the fiscal year 1314 the city did implement a significant standard gasb 65 which changes the classifications of certain balances or certain account on the Financial Statements so compare 1314 Financial Statements to that of the prior year it will look a little different because of the new pronouncements that were adopted. In terms of the audit implementations we had one recommendation that we have with the audit relating to the citys Overall Information Technology governance and we considered a significant deficiency which is defined to be something we believe is a matter of concern that would be useful to the gao. What the find was that the comment related to the overall governance of the city whereby each department has their own policies and procedures regarding the systems that they use, and there isnt a centralized body for the city that would issue policies and because of that each department has different processes, if you will, to govern their own system, and we believe that a centralized oversight body would be necessary. In terms of prior recommendation as part of our audit we do have recommendations that we have made in prior year that we made outstanding. One of the outstanding findings in terms of the Financial Statements related to a comment we made in 2013 and this is for the payroll process. During fiscal year 1213 the city implemented a new payroll system called emerge and while the system transition took place some of the policies and procedures by departments were not updated so our comment relates to that. During the 1314 financial audit we went back and revisited this particular situation and found that corrective action happened implemented. And other prior years recommendations that we made outstanding was from fiscal year 1112 and this was an informational item so it wasnt a deficiency. In 2012 the gasb which is the body that makes accounting standards for governmental agencies nationwide they issued two significant accounting standards, 67 and 68 which relates to pension benefits, and the accounting and Financial Reporting requirements relating to such benefits. 67 is the requirement that we have the Retirement Systems and the planning and 68 is the [inaudible] benefits for the employer for the city as a whole so we just at the time we made a comment to communicate with the city and inform everyone this is a significant standard that would drastically change the Financial Reporting of pension benefits. 67 statement 67 was implemented by the system during fiscal year 1314 and the city as the employer will implement statement 68 in fiscal year 1415. Next i will go on to the recommendations relating to the citys single audit which is the audit of the citys federal award compliance. Sorry it should say current year. So the first comment that we have again is consideration of [inaudible] c and [inaudible] monitoring and we found this situation for two different federal programs that we had audited. The first is the work forcement act cluster and [inaudible] research and demonstration projects. Both programs are administered by the office of Economic Development development and we found when the city passes on federal funds to other agencies outside the city, what we call separate recipients and communicate the title and number and other information. We found when the city provided funding under these programs to their recipients such information was not communicated at the time of the award as required but they were communicated during the award. The second financial the suddenly federal award finding is for the programs listed. The first is the continuum of care program and served by the Human Service agency and the second one is the pilot demonstration and Research Project by the office of work force development. This finding related to you a report that was required to be submitted anytime awards are made and has to be made at the time of the award and we found that the reports were not filed. This finding on procurement and suspension debarment is also a significant deficiency and relates to the Child Support Enforcement Program that is administered by the department of Child Support services. For this particular finding it relates to the contracting process. For contracts that are funded by federal awards there is a requirement to make sure that the contracting entity is not suspended or debarred. In one of the examples we selected for testing the department of Child Support Services Utilized a blanket contract that was procured by the city, but because the blanket contract was procured for the city overall at the time the procurement occurred the contractor was not checked against the federal suspension and debarment listing so we listed this as a finding. Im switching now over to the recommendations that were made in previous single audits. The first one result relates to the fiscal year 13 and. With single monitoring and for the agent clusters. Similar it was about communicating required information to the city at the time of the board and during the follow up audit in 1314 we found that the corrective actions have been implemented. So now i will switch over to the Audit Service plan for fiscal year 1415. Im not going to go over all the items in detail but i do want to highlight the three items that are listed. The first one is the plan scope, so as i mentioned in the previous slide we will be auditing the same components including the citys cafr, the single audit retirement system, the Successor Agency and the port as well as the finance corporation n terms of the timing of the audit we provided a timeline on page five. Although the plan you can refer to for more details but overall we expect to issue the citys Financial Statements by midnovember, the week before thanksgiving and the single audit will be issued by january of 2016. Lastly the [inaudible] relates to our responsibilities as well as managements responsibilities. These are required communications that are provided to you in our Audit Services. With they will take any questions and comments. Okay. Thank you. Any questions . Seeing none thank you very much for your presentation. Thank you. Wallace chance will come up and chang will come up and give status for the airport. Thank you. Good morning chair yee, supervisor christensen and supervisor mar. It is wallace tang airport controller from San Francisco international airport, business and finance division. Relating to the fiscal year 2014, the findings regarding the untimely real and monitoring of Capital Asset records that happened as part of the airports Continuous Improvement effort starting fiscal year 13 and 14. The airport was taking a proactive approach to start cleaning up the fixed asset and Capital Asset data base for getting ready for the upcoming city wide Financial System replacement project. Our goal was to clean up the data and make sure that the good data will be wrote into the new system. As part of that clean up effort we had a Capital Assets account to see if they met the policy and we reviewed the reasonableness of useful life of fixed assets and through that effort in fiscal year 13 and 14 and we worked closely with the airport project managers and we identified certain adjustment and we were the one that initiate adjustment and show it to the auditor that should be the adjusting entries in fiscal year 13 and 14, so to address the findings and to strengthen the internal control the airport has taken multiple corrective action to address the witnesses related to untimely review and monitoring of Capital Assets records. One of the action thases we took was on the top of the annual review for year end close purpose we schedule the project manager to confirm the reasonableness of useful life whether the accounts met the capitalization policies and also and the items that are supposed to be capitalized versus expense and we identified in our Second Quarter close and Third Quarter close during the fiscal year, so that has been implemented in fiscal year 15. And also next at the airport we created and updated the new set of construction in progress policies and procedures to make it clear to the project manager whats supposed to be the requirement for booking Capital Assets. Regarding the suggestions from kpmgs recommendations from last years finding related to reassessing the resources, the airport has created a fixed Asset Accounting Group in fy 15 to strengthen the resources to focus on the accounting. With that i am open for any questions supervisors. In regards to implementing this new system to look at the fixed assets has that been completed yet . Yes. We have completed the 100 confirmation of all the fixed assets and value of fy 15. So there were Additional Resources put in there for that effort to make it happen . Yes. So my question is moving forward yes. Will you continue championing of resources to keep everything updated on an annual basis . Yes, we do. At the interim we have already hired one additional staff to focus on the fixed asset and we have the starting plan when we do the upcoming two year budget were going to put in requests for permanent positions that will focus on fixed asset accounting so we have the interim solution and the longterm plan. Okay. Thank you very much. Any other questions . Seeing none thank you very much for your presentation. Thank you chair. Thank you supervisors. So next up would be miguel camino. Good afternoon. I am from the city and cio. I just wanted to respond briefly to a couple of points regarding the Information Technology governance finding. We have been working really hard on a city wide chief Information Security officer recruitment. Whats different about that than previous situations is that departments have had and still do have Security Officer functions but this is an actual city wide authority. We are getting very, very close. We had engaged in executive search firm and close to have finalists to review and select from so i see this position being filled very soon and instrumental to making progress on some of the concerns, and also at the committee on Information Technology we have an architecture and policy review board that is a working group that functions to collect the stakeholder groups from various departments and organize the conversations around technology policies, priorities and recommendations, and then bring those back forward to the official governing body of coit for consideration, discussion and approval, so that is also a city wide cross departmental coordinated effort and discussion. That body has been officially instituted and has had its first working meeting, and were making progress there pretty rapidly, and again once the city chief Information Security officer is in place i think that will also accelerate the outcomes of that policy review board so thats the departmental response to the findings and the concerns. May i ask a question . So are there departments exempt from participate something. Exempt from participating in which component . In being over seen by chief inform Security Officer . No. The city will have responsibility and authority for establishing the federated Security Policyo the umbrella Security Policy and departments have Departmental Authority to kind of take it from there just like a federal law type of structure. This citys staff person reports to me as the chief officer with a dotted line to the controller directly so its very clear its a city wide purview. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions . Okay. Seeing none thank you for your presentation. Thanks. And that concludes then the presentations for this item . Yes, that conclude the presentation unless you had questions for any of the other speakers . No. I dont. Supervisor christensen . No. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your presentations and now are there any Public Comment on this item . Airport commission group, a policy as standard procedures please elaborate, communicate, connect to the world with perfect open window to the world. Any other Public Comments on this item . Seeing none. Public comment is now closed. [gavel]. Colleagues could we have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair . Im sorry . Could i have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair . [inaudible] okay. Any objections . Seeing none the motion passes. Thank you very much. Madam clerk item number 3. Madam clerk could you call items 3 17. Items 3 17 are ordinances and resolutions with various settlements and agreements with the city and county of San Francisco. Okay. Before we entertain a motion to convene in closed session is there any member of the public who wishes to speak on items 3 17 . Seeing none public is now closed. [gavel] colleagues is there a motion to convene in closed session. [inaudible] moved and seconds. Motion passes. [gavel] so members of the public we will now be convening in closed session. We please ask that you please leave the committee room. closed session . I got a couple more waiting to happen, the metal plates and the cracks in the sidewalk. Yeah, yeah. When you see them month after month. I send them 311. Hows the response . Not so good on utility covers. Actually there have been some utilities completely punched in we are now back in open session. Deputy director john gibner. The city voted to amend the ordinance for number 14 to reflect in the body of the ordinance that the lawsuit was filed in San Mateo Superior Court and voted unanimously to forward items 3 17 to the full board with positive recommendation. Okay. Thank you. Colleagues can i have a motion to not disclose what happened in closed session . Second . Okay. No objection motion passes. [gavel] madam clerk is there anything else on the agenda . There is no further business. Okay. If theres nothing further the meeting is adjourned. [gavel] thank you very much. 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My name is jaeven alexander an attorney for the San Francisco City Attorneys office i inspires the tax team give tax advise to the treasurer and drafting tax legislation the thing i remember any mother telling me as a child but need to be prepared to take care of youve i know you wanted to burger to do something i enjoyed i did not expect anyone to gym give me anything they didnt give her anything i saw her fighting for the things she wanted for home share my name is jason man flovrlz working alien agency an admin assistants at the City Attorneys office i felt in the tasks ive been given on the days i didnt show up and held my own for me, i think it is being more active and being more involved in a person to person interaction my grievous bodily harm jobs includes being a physician or nurse or pharmacy or firefighter and working with animal or the public on a personal level for improvements my sister is the biggest influence in any life because she to tell you the truth me to go forward what makes you happy rather than the most money. I graduated from law school in 1972 at this point when was was beginning to be an influx of women in the professional and tries case for diligent operated programs government budgets and a life fiscal legislation came to the San Francisco City Attorneys office and been here for about 12 years advising think tax matters i does just about anything to think of lawyers do some things and some negligence letters dont do. Im from the mission and grew up and also there my whole life living there you see others question. Some of them oldest and some look like me my age and a lot of them work nanny and childcare jobs and retail jobs i dont know it is being kind of like a reminder that youre kind of lucky to be where you or i guess just the facts whether you havent gone so far at all i want them to go maybe go on an intrauf for challenging that is facing things they cant get that job you know kind of challenge and maybe surprise themselves when they get that job and feel better. They have been women practicing law for many years but it was so few of them that a lot of the issues hadnt really come into play and some of them were fairly worked out and resolves like equal pay in partnerships in law firms mac that women get fair assignments to be excluded and in the upper levels of government and law firms i consider myself more of a beneficiary of all the women that fought really difficult battles along the way transportation director borden is anticipated director heinecke director nolan director ramos director rubke directors please be advised director brinkman will not be here phones, devices are prohibited at this meeting. Please be advised that the chair may order the removal from the meeting room cell phone, pager, or other similar soundproducing Electronic Devices. Do cause microphone trenches the board respectfully asked they be turned off approval of the minutes arrest second discussion. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . The is have it thank you. Item 5 Communications Directors please be advised no anticipations discussion in closed session. Introduction of new business by Board Members id like to ask the staff to prepare a report on paratransit ive been think the board for 10 years im trying to comboings id like to hear if the staff and providers consumers of the service the drivers perhaps a comprehensive idea ive heard a number of things respect or recently about the longtime to get on the system to go anywhere in the city i is a say it is partially because of traffic time for a competitive traffic director reiskin can you put this together in midoctober. Absolutely. Then i want to mention well, an award well get from the Mayors Coordinating Council for the free muni for seniors and people with disabilities well send out a formal invitation at the Library Friday afternoon anyone else with new or unfinished business. Item 7 directors report you, you good morning director reiskin. Good afternoon staff and members of the public a few staff recognized id like to ask Jerold Williams our industrial safety manager to present this quarters maintenance safety award. Good afternoon arrest director reiskin and members of the board id like here to present the Second Quarter maintenance safety award that emancipation proclamation that hiss that unit that be focusing on which is best on safety but helping the agency to meet its strategic goals with the under the influrence on safety id like to introduce michael and his team mr. Henry with his team members showed significant efforts Sherry Anderson showed significant teamwork in our injuries and Safety Training their d s c bringing the presidio facility to a zero count of injuries for the last i believe 6 months. All right. clapping . Thank you good afternoon chairman Board Members and mr. Recess kin i take it my honor to accept this award on behalf of a group of individuals that support me and the thoughts of pertain to employee safety two of my Staff Members tim and dennis and another you cant gentleman those are the guys that helped to achieve that award it is known pub that nothing at presidio is done solely by one person we hold our safety team weekly and Good Housekeeping records and question by question corroborate with the Industry Safety Sherry Anderson and through the support of her and donna we were able to achieve that award i appreciate that an on behalf of presidio we appreciate this award. Thank you clapping. director reiskin so next, we will of president to recognize a member of executive team after a quick 16 years with the city asking is going to be moving on to Better Things alicia our chief of staff joined by two key assistants laughter alicia starting work with the city in 1999 with muni in 1999 i learned one of her first jobs robbed to complaint letters that was when muni had complaints laura laughter she became the muni mta with as a budget decoration in difficult fiscal times and went to the San Francisco city Planning Department and held a bunch of leadership and finished as chief of staff we lured her back to the mta about three years ago where shes been serving ann as the chief of staff what id like to do is ask a couple of members susan and john halley to come forward to speak on behalf of all of us on the team and agency to acknowledge alicia and wish her well as he moves on. Good afternoon tom nolan candice director ever Communications Im pleased and honored to be speaking on behalf of Alicia Alicia eye worked on the sfmta two weeks apart at the end of 2012 and the beginning of 2013 we were capable from the start i knew i found a partner and someone i learn from as a working mother and as someone who truly wanted to make a difference no surprises to anyone that alicia lives up to our expectation and exceeded them in her time she is made a defensive in 80 so many aspects of our work at sfmta it is easy to talk about from the Transportation Sustainability program and see it is moving introduce the legislative process now to the process to the passage of prop a with the 500 million general Obligation Bond to the projection to increasing our operator hiring and training so were on our hundred and 5 consequence day of the prop goal; right . John alicia steadier the course so many of the achievements were high profile and visual but what is less visible how she went about her work at sfmta that left a legacy of hope at the agency are ii asked a few people to share their prospective ill read a couple of the quotes she has a unique ability to bring out the best for the goal of sfmta she going above and beyond to get the project outcomes she has the rare ability to know the policies well, shes not only unafraid but actually eager to tackle big issues shes fantastic at bringing together the right people from all walks of City Government to get things done shes calm you feel that; right . With 4yearold will twins sitting in the Board Meeting this was something i didnt know shes visited every con innocent in the antarctica ocean alicia i know youll be only away ill miss you for quick laughs and i know the agency and everyone on the board will as well so on behalf of our executive team and staff and others members well miss you and we honor you and our honored to have you been a part of the our professional lives im going before i introduce john haley for additional words the team wants to present you with this gift and photo card laughter and it says for the record alicia changemaker for a better tomorrow clapping. and ill introduce john haley director of transit probations. Good afternoon mr. Haley thank you candice id like start by thanking my colleagues for providing me the opportunity to speak about alicias contributions and how much shell be missed that is an honor as candice indicated to show our collective appreciation one the great debates raging for years and years in support history was billing russel and wilting charming listen for his tremendous permanent scoring records and russel the winner team player winning his position in support and also won two matt championships was a regular rider of the 540 so that i couldnt verify but it makes sense televised in this discussion right thinking people came down on the side of russel in a team game he made his teammates better alicia is our version of bill russel in successful organizations like with sports teams goals are accomplished by working together per alicia focused and developed her role as chief of staff in collection with all of us to focus to achieve the agencies goals and objectives she focused and galvanizing the resources within the organization to address them she tigerlessly brought individual and unit throughout the organization to get solutions to get a fair and equal attendance policy after most and most of tireless efforts she made the teammates betters as a leader shows without peer no knowing how to find the right person for the job mike henry if youll stand up. Way back when when were at a Crucial Point trying to get a approval from a Labor Council to get proposition 8 to fund our future Goal Investments alicia suggested that mike henry might be the guy to step up and advise the Labor Council mike is a terrific manager hes well liktd by all the employees and a good technical knows vehicles but im thinking Labor Council i dont know thats a lot to place michael in but to is a say mike next in order it out of park it was an example how she made her team better by working with us as a team as she also led the charge to pass the bond issue with her corroborate style she led meetings and visits for the mayors key counselor and advisors on the long term needs jonathan if you would john was one the staff alicia showcased to gain support for this Key Initiative yes. She made her teammates better led the process not only to establish the management fixture but ear skill and persistence i dont want to say he invented but pioneered the use of something called the action law. laughter now the action law has become not only a function it is your at every Agency Meeting regardless of division but it serves to reinforce the essential organizational core values of respect for others in honoring our commitments again she made her teammates better alicia is the standard for treating everybody with respect there is no issue no grinds two small or insignificant that didnt require somebody looking at it and making sure weve dot all the is and cross the ts and resolved it to that end stafrnd in for travis box is jonathan oh, theres travis im sorry traveling is recently been appoint at chief office and part of the duties to make sure he tracks down every issue to make sure we followup again incurring every feedback big or small just like mr. Bill russel she makes her teammates betters im sure under different circumstances alicia could run of the statistics like someone like wilting chamber lane but hats off to the were far better for having the privilege to work with her and well miss her dearly clapping the board would like to thank and congratulate you for the grace you do our job very, very well, we wish you well. Thank you very much i had all these things i was planning to say and touched by whatever you had to say thank you very much for that i was regretting as mentioned earlier in 16 years i worked for the city ive been thinking about my past over the last 16 years and all the letters since 1999 people actually wrote letters they were hardcopy letters he was responding to and there were some of them were thanking us but the majority on other topics what i being the person i am i felt we should tell people why the bulls passes went up or the bus went out the service or the train door wouldnt open or the air conditioning was running full speed on the coldest day what hap onpenedit day what i found was literally highrise probably thousands of people who were working with extreme commitment and daigs dedication to deliver transit city and circumstances is in which they especially\have the necessary resources and the bus was going out of service because it was thirty years old and you know, i tried to give them answers in the letters i left the mta inform about 8 years when i came back in 2012 obviously the mta has been bigger and more complex and has a broader mandate but what had remained constant there were literally thousands of people and mta everyday with complete dedication to deliver services for the city ive been proud to be most of you know them working on the projects ive been allowed to work on at the mta is special to me in i look at the whole cycle of my time with the city i started out by planning out for myself as well as the many people writing letter what a lack of investment in our system will do in the last couple of years ive thank you for the opportunity to address the situation i was grateful to have had that privilege all of this going on particularly in the last 3 years i just want to acknowledge nothing ive done that would have been comfortable in isolation not the way things work ive tremendously enjoyed work for this board and appreciated our guidance and leadership and frankly our counselor in some of the different decisions and really appreciated it and really appreciate as leadership shes a clear vision of what the mta and challenged each of us and entrusting me with work that is profound and impactful i also want to acknowledge my colleagues on the achieve team you you know im not sure weve been giving each other hi 5s but we worked well together and it is a group of people who just have again, this very deep commitment to serving San Francisco and to making transportation really work in this ever changing city im grateful to have of the opportunity is it work with them and want to acknowledge my team like the others teams ranging from the team it came together on transportation 2030 and in transit and specifically wanted to mention 3 people that have a huge impact on the ability to move forward specifically sophia i work with on a daily days and patricia and chief of staff that have contributed a tremendous amount and made it possible for me to do what ive done im going to grateful for the 16 years with the city and essential the past 3 years one thing i cant forget to do that i want to see thank you to my family that was a period of time in the front row there was a period of time we were working through the labor negotiations and were there was a lot of late nights and early moernlz and im grateful for them and being able to be here today so thank you very much clapping. tough act to follow one the alicia kids going like this right now i cant wait another mormon detain things later this month we will be nirt and putting into place another round of Service Increases you passed the two year budget were in the middle of the unprecedented 10 percent in the budget we did a big increase in march the next one this september well be on september 26th increasing service by 80 thousand hours had brown will impact the routes that effect about hundred and 40 thousands of our customers so a really big significant increase in particular increasing the frequency on the crowded crosstown route the 22 and the 24 and little 43 as well as adding some rush hour trains on the k t and m line so focusing on the increases on the lines that are carrying a lot of people we are always implementing a number of route changes you approved specifically the 7 x and the 18 and 47 those routes are schaveng on the 26 and the final service in the spring of 2016 but this after march this is the next really big one that be tangible increase those people will notice im kieftd about that good news coming one quick followup from recent meeting when you protectiveed the 5 fulton u full name along mcallister one from the public or board whether we can look at the idea of turning the signal to flashing red and yellow over knitted our traffic engineers looked at that we think this is doable so well test that when we install and see if this works and make adjustments as needed next some good news in terms of dancing vision zero vision zero as you may know is built upon a few 3 legs of a stool making the design streets and enforcement that is the Police Department but your parking control officers and education is the thirds e of the stool and while i think everybody agrees that education and awareness is really critical in terms of changing behavior because well never be able to design out ever instance of bad behavior behavior changes is essential but everybody or everybody believes that outreach and education is essential but maybe not quite clear how to do that effectively youll change behavior so we created along with the department of Public Health walk sf and Police Department other partners in partnership of program called save streets sf it stops are here weve talked about that when we rolled it out earlier this year those are the billboards youve seen on building but particularly on the buses the program had numerous types of outreach but rather than throw it out there we tried to take an analytical approach with great support from the folks at the department of Public Health really targeted this so we can measure we choose 8 directs 4 we were going to target and 4 with a control group we tried a number of enforcement specific enforcement having folks out there with information the ads on the buses and elsewhere to cut to the chase we actually were able to measure improvement in terms of driver compliance at the four sgrshgs as compared to the other 4 actually, the 4 where we had the focus was a compliant increase of three or four perpetrating not huge during that time we had a decrease we cant explain bend they were 10 percent apart in regards to jooeldz to pedestrians one of the primary collision factors were trying to attack in vision zero we did a survey of residents to determine whether this was reaching people and what we found that 40 percent remembered seeing one the slogans from the campaign or hearing simon smoking gun something on tv and those that saw those slogans are more likely to think they can do something about the problem the key philosophy the good news were not that only be able to make an impact on the intersection it demonstrates with the right kind of prescription of outreach we can achieve behavior change well be using the lessons as we scale and add what can from the budget to get hundred and 65 thousand dollars or so to put targeted our outreach strategy that is associated with vision zero so but it was great work and John Knox White was the lead but collaboration within the agency and drive a behavior that is associated with those behaviors that make us safety this was good news and then want to let you know frail muni art or art on muni collaboration between sfmta and San Francisco beautiful which is as you may know the organization that is got it start by helping to save the impracticable cars weve been replacing all of the interior advertising on 50 buses with art made by San Francisco artists more our artist there were 10 if not lifts that included local grerp artists and institutions and somebody from the sfmta, the public voted in a poll to determine the winning artist and the 56 artists with the most votes will be the ones with the art delayed in buses from october to the end of the year at least december and turn our buses into living Art Galleries for a brief period of time something we hope to do more of in the future great collaboration there upcoming at the end of this week september 26th and 27 the muni heritage weekend weve done in partnership with Market Street railway our nonprofit and this is the time to showcase the history of our system particular some the historic streetcar cars the 1934 vote trams and outside the crowd favorites theyll be out beginning september 2, 26 and 27 and well be bringing out the old buses from the 50s and 60s and 70s a sovereignly Media Contest with a hash tag muni heritage that will allow folks to win limited Edition Photo and generally gives us an opportunity to showcase the great history and invite all of San Francisco for the under the influrence itself from across the country to take the train or take that to experience this great legacy were proud of and happy to share with everyone so september 26th and 27 muni heritage weekend eaten the last one is the American Public Transportation Association which is the main Industry Organization for transit in this country that is hosting emphasis conference in San Francisco october 4th through 7 at the hilton hotel in union square we at the mta are cohosting this long with the Authority Regional partners bart and caltrain and ac the mtc Transportation Authority and all the leading transit agencies coming together to host two or three thousand public professionals from across the country well show off our technical tours and the first ever bike tour for the convention a multi in charge to the conference and it should be a Great Program anybody interested can go to the website if any Board Members are interested and alicia will use her charm the United States secretary of transportation anthony owe the chairman of board sfmta will be welcoming you on monday morning october 5th so it is just a great opportunity to not just us at mta but throughout the region to showcase the transit a last notes folks have been reading about the state legislature somewhat came and went this summer without rotation it is not technically closed the legislative session can continue into the fall in response to the call to figure out how to better Fund Transportation in california so while it is disappointing they didnt meet the september deadline to come up with the package were hopefully and supporting effort to getting some done this this year a at the federal level the reauthorization as well as the federal budget will soon be expiring so we are continuing to work with our partners nationally including them to urge a Good Transportation bill as well as a transportation budget for october 1st, well keep you posted but our state and federal partners are not stepping up like prop a the numerous forevers the Transportation Agency will be bringing up forward in 2014. One thing you remind we last week he attended an art show at the congregant church by a man that come to San Francisco essentially homeless and living with aids and he got on the system as part of a place to rest he wrote he called this the yellow line and sat across from the yellow line it was about thirty or 40 of them it was a touching thing he was so grateful for the grace shown to him when he was struggling by our drivers i was touched and maybe sometime well invite him here it was a wonderful exhibit. Hes gun in touch with the Market Street railway you know on the way of the exhibit but well reach out. Anyone from the public. Mr. Chairman none is interested to address the matters provided by the directors of transportation moving on this the other Advisory Committee recorded nun today and Public Comment are considered to be routine and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. We have one speaker Herbert Wiener. Good afternoon mr. Wiener Herbert Wiener i wish to address the question of equality as stated for ever bicycle rider one car taken off the road well, for every passenger on muni several cars taken off the road imagine if all those passengers drove well, the bicyclists are getting things in return thaig theyre getting bike lanes and all sorts of goodies and what are the passengers getting in return now it is true they got free bus pays for seniors and teenagers okay but also theyre having takeaways the demands will be reduced to blocks people are on injury duty not able to take the 47 bus line to the hall of justice this slows down the process significantly in my opinion also the 3 that will not run by San Francisco General Hospital any longer i dont think this is equalities at all those are takeaways and basically the nittygritty passengers dont have police clout beehives do the board has to take into consideration it would have been simple with the transit project now known and muni forward to simply maintain the existing routes and added buses to the heavy runs not that many housing of planning now takeaways from the neighborhood i think well be severely impacted you look at the muni transportation map of 198095 percent are covered by transportation which makes it assessable and now were reducing accessibility this is being done to the tune of billions of dollars now, if you say no resources foyer having the buses i dont think so prop a and all the money that mta is getting certainly can do that if you dont want to have mta stand for more train wrecks ahead you better address that with the disabled and seniors who will be severely impacted by the bus alteration and bus deletions and consolidation of bus stops were heading towards this disaster moving on towards over the cliff. Thank you. Next speaker, please. calling names . Those are this only people that turned in speaker cards. Good afternoon mr. Lee. Good evening tom nolan e tom nolan and members now is a dangerous nationwide running the taxi local business becoming the big major giants in the country find a way this preservation convention coming you have to find where the t nc by a local ownership only you cant allow the the whole taxi business in the worlds is starting by San Francisco where it starts when to end you have to begin what the tmc the baby tmc is not like the baby you reminder it the nationwide they have a mop monopoly this is one giant it is dangerous to our countrys interests if nothing can happen no more transportation like barts ownership is an important thing you cant allow one guy to kill the smaller guys business they allow you to share in the economy and airbnb you have to have a building that you can do b and b but the people having cars theyre killing another guy as a leadership of you, please begin again had this convention thank you for the opportunity to make louder dont go along with the politicians they share the economy because of the good stuff in their pocket they say oh, Good Good Good you cant be getting with all this corruption and also taxi the low down my taxi is lower and lower why i pay more shiners fee every month. calling names the last person to turn in a speaker card. Good afternoon mr. Kennedy. Good afternoon, everyone im franklin kennedys from bos worst street in San Francisco on the 4 had line the 52 line, bart and the 36 line it this story began on august 18th of 2015 i was the victim of a bank fraud by someone utilizing the bank of america atm 14 times i only used it once so the bank of america changed my card and reset the money to me thats a good thing, however, clipper i have my auto reload clipper decided to go gets their money it is fine but they dont go by the bank i called clipper b with bank of america on the line and discussed it and clipper supervisor told me it would be anywhere from 7 to 10 days for this corrective action to take place i said whatever it takes please just get me so i have my september muni pass for adults on my card they said okay. Theyll work on it i said fine they suspended my use of clipper soon after and in so doing they maids my clipper card inoperable on ever reader throughout the state it doesnt work so luckily i didnt see a pop officer and they restored everything on the lighting thanks to the help of the state of california Municipal Commission and carol as sfmta id like to see if you continue your relationship with. Sir. Staff mr. Ed reiskin is somebody here. The clipper is i know mr. Kennedy knows it is run but is mtc so the relationship of the vendors deals are with those issues is the mtc but it sounds like hes connected with the staff person in the revenue division. You just want you guys to say to the clipper next time you have the responsibility of turning on and off. Thank you very much ill refer to the board thank you. Next item. Moving on to the consent calendar commission. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests mr. Chairman none from the public wishes to sever an item okay. Come forward please. Which item are you talking about . Good afternoon. Im robert freed beggar he drive s 23 which is been called a special or a senior medallion and on 9 11 we received allergies are allergies tlulsz of the intent to take the medallions from us i find it hard to speak to the board i came here today, i want to be comfortable and since we were given a year before the medallions that taken from us all my friends who have those medallions have asked me to speak and i spoken to both kate tehran and page and id like to get my thoughts together to speak to the board the first i spoke for the mta i came front of the Michael Harris and chris and stooping stood up in front of my friends s42 those guys died one year after getting the medallions we were the oldest and longest group of cab drivers you mr. Adams i stood up and said thank you in front of the mta and the friends and the Caregiver Company and said for 35 years or 36 when you take this medallion ive driven a cab almost fulltime in the city and nobody ever gave me anything thank you to the sfmta and now we followed all the rules ive been told that cabs are not operated well, we were given conditions had to give them to the company and not operate on our own from the conditions that with respect given were broken it was not by us as i say i was there when s one and 42 there is thirty of us left in the first 50 thank you. Thank you. So mr. Chairman again, no members of the public have addressed this item. I think there are folks that want to address on one of the consent calendar items. Okay. Or may not. Item what. F what. inaudible . So members mbes wishes to sever 6. 2 f. Thats the end of calendar. They said to be sure they are here to support it. Got it. So well put it back in were back on. The consent calendar remains intact. Motion to approve. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . The is have it thank you very much. Moving on to the reagan agenda upcoming agenda mr. Chairman adopting the 20year capital plan. Director reiskin. Our Capital Planning managers the architect of our 20year capital plan will presents the item. Good afternoon, sir. Thank you ed reiskin and thank you to tom nolan and members of the board im dart with the Planning Group with the sustainable Streets Division im here to walk you through the latest workshops the 20year capital plan all right. So in summary ill cover the why do we create a capital plan and the methodology and how we develop the plan and how we use it Going Forward so the first step is why do we have the capital plan probably helps to start what is the capital plan it is our one document they pull together all at Capital Needs so the investments in the Capital Program we have a good accounting of ever that the city and agency could invest in one the key considerations here is that it is not con trained by any financial or physical resources so it is really looking at what types of investments could benefit the Transportation System irrespective of the money well be able to bring in during this time period and the second point is about prioritization so we know which or are the most important based on the Strategic Plan the sfmta Strategy Plan and then the other point why it is important to have the capital plan it provides us with a tool to communicate what the citys Transportation Needs are at a local level, regional level and also at a National Level it indicates the level of investment that could be put to use here in San Francisco now the capital plan is based a number of other plans studies analysis and as i mentioned the foundation of that is the statistics plan but a lot of the needs which are identified in the capital plan come from other studies which is the ones shown here we have the pedestrians Safety Strategy and the bicyclist streaming our repair assessment it indicates how much to reinvest in the system and the real estate division, Community Program all of those others studies funnel into this capital plan so it is really the collection of all the needs that have been identified. Through those individual studies and then in turn the capital plan serves as a basis for a lot of things that we contribute to the most immediate the basis for the Capital Improvement program so the capital plan is not financially constraints the mayors the fund for the upcoming 5 years we use the combination of capital plan and the cit to to the citys 10 year capital plan it is adopted by the board of supervisors every two years and a chartered on transportation which contribute to at the county level the Transportation Authority provides the San Francisco Transportation Plan not only the sfmta but also the regional provides like bart and caltrain we mentioned a few times the Mayors Task Force is one of the foundational documents for understanding what the investment needs for San Francisco are and a lot of the projects and programs that were identified in 2030 were a direct result of information and finally at the regional level the municipality transportation put together the planned area so the region of Transportation Priorities this is this was last adopted three years ago were in the beginning stages updating that plan this capital plan update will serve as a 4 oclock for the update to the regional plan as well so the next set walk you through how we develop the capital plan and establish the priorities it is really simplified to 3 step process where we develop the criteria by which well evaluate and prioritize those needs so the starting point is the Strategic Plan and the four goals within it are so and within each of those the goals we develop criteria that specifically are used to evaluate the benefits the project will have in meeting some of the Strategic Plan goals they mirror the objectives within the Strategic Plan but been at a later date to apply to the Capital Investments won those 4 goals weve identified the 11 criteria the next step we went through to determine out of 11 how much wealthy should be given our executive team went through a process represented here they compare each the criteria against those each other and indicate whaich ones are more important in this case were showing Risk Management versus improving the quality those are further into goal four in the Strategic Plan so they evaluate those and we come up with the distribution of weigh like a hundred point scale a perfect project has to safer the strategic needs we get hundred points goal one in red is the safest and security goal roughly 28 percent of the goal or 28 points out of a hundred the largest component is goal two that is the transit goal 47 percent and goal 3 the financial and environmental sustainability this is 7 percent and the workforce workplace goals has 18 percent this sets up the points possible that the projects can be evaluated then we go to throw the process of Capital Needs this is an example from our Accessibility Program in this project in particular is to replace a list this is on geneva with a mraurm that requires less appliances and provides you know more assess over time so we collect kind of a basic description of the needs and why it is important to this system and a rough order of progress for those so for each of those Capital Needs a to thats been identified we get a small team of the Agency Experts together and they go through a process of rating those Capital Needs against the criteria that the executive team establishes with that, same example of platinum on santa fe and geneva were looking at the assess criteria and the 40 members that rates this project all felt this was a major benefit to accessibility so then harking back to the pie chart that is the system assess 13 points out of a hundred this will get 13 points for the access criteria and we go through the 11 criteria for each project and then have our rating so then this charting shows that project in context with the other and can be made in the Accessibility Program in this case that that list replacement project will receive 78 out of a hundred points it is nearly impossible for a project to receive hundred points the highest rated project in the capital plan was other than 80 points so the scale is not meant to be you know out of like a perfect score of a hundred is not necessarily achievable so we go through the whole process and what we come out with our total needs that are estimated as 21 p. S. . 4 billion and here were sun shining it by the major programs by which the primary investment is muni one the big things from this plan it is significantly larger than the one we showed you two years ago good a big there of 5. 5 billions more a big component westbound fully assessing the states of replace specifically in the transit fixed railway the cable overheads and the parking the passing but also the state ons parking we added a lot of projects and completed a studies on the ocean subway was adams to the capital plan in this cycle about a year ago we undertook a Feasibility Study at the Fishermans Wharf extension of the t line third line this was excluded included and weve been developing a real capacity strategy to unlock the potential the light rail system to perform at a greater capacity to allow to it carry more people over time in total those 3 efforts adams about 3. 5 billion to that total another way to look at the capital plan by the type of investments were making weve categorized them into 3 categories so the first is restore which is kind of a state of good repair needs to rehab all our existing assets 50 percent the total costs or needs and the rest the other 50 percent is roughly split been enhancing the assets and making improvements to them to make them, if you know better or add new targets or the expansion of now vehicles or extend a light rail line a couple of examples there. The final we summarized the investments by the preliminary mode of travel how we move more and more into building complete streets projects this it is getting harder to begin this is the major consultant in a transit that has Pedestrian Safety or bicycle improvements is it so categoryized about 80 percent of the needs for transit about 10 for parking and traffic and the other 10 is split between pedestrian bicycling and traffic calming and other street improvements so the last piece is how will well be using this document as i mentioned earlier at capital plan is the foundation for the Capital Improvement program which were just beginning to pull together now and it every project that wants to be funded through the cit must start in the capital plan so the timeframe differ it will take a long range foreign the capital plan and shorter for the kip and by it the amount of funds we can invest in a 5 year period are roughly are a lot less than a quarter of the total 3. 3 billion versus the 4 point plus were seeing the 20year plan it is did not on the revenues to support the delivery of those needs and included in the capital plan is the first step of the project in its lives cycle from the capital plan gets opportunity into the cit and additional planning to understand how were going to approach the project the Community Outreach to make sure the solutions were thinking of our best alignment to meet the interests a lot of the design and environmental process and then finally construction and use of those improvements so while this is an important step in a project being identified there is many steps along the way where decisions need to be made and we need to be engaged and other system points that will likely come before this board so as i mentioned before this plan will be used for the regional and planning update in the planning area weve submitted our initial project list to the Transportation Authority to look at the counties needs for that plan bay area update based on the work weve done on the capital plan the individual plans strategic other documents that feed into the capital plan will continue it be revised on their own and then this capital plan will start the process again in two years to feed into the next cycle so just want to thank quickly a couple of staff annie chang u chung that joined us 6 months ago and helped us with the capital plan and alex the members of the capital committee, and also wanted to thank the citizens Advisory Committee for providing us with finally prior to bringing this do you. Thank you excellent presentation and we look forward to whatever is come we have a couple of members of the public. Two people have indicated an interest in addressing the commission. Good afternoon good afternoon tom nolan im kathy from the policy and Program Manager in walk sf im here to competence how happy to see 762 million looked to pedestrian projects in the 2015 capital plan that is actually double the amount from 2013 were stealing excited we know that a quarter of trip in these the city are walking it is great to increase our investment in pedestrians the percent are the majority of victims the traffic collision so increasing the funding will help us get to vision zero were excited about the increase were curious to see if it is going to be enough to get us to vision zero this is a question that remains as projects get into the cit weve been watching that anxiously but it is a great start thank you. Herbert wiener followed by tone lee. Mr. Wiener and Herbert Wiener one question really comes to mind is this plan able to adapt to natural and manmade disasters now i believe this plan will incorporate reduction of present bus stops will require a longer walking distance and when you have buildings that are collapsed, fires and water mains busting i have to have available transportation it is going to be necessary so this should be one the criteria of the project just Roanoke County 1989 in San Francisco i was there i was present the city was severely damaged youll need adequate transportation and this plan must reflect this perhaps there should be communication with the Homeland Security department of this city it is really vital to do this otherwise well have one disaster for another this simply wont do for the Public Safety thank you atone lee the last person to thunder in a card. Mr. Lee. The capital we need the one billion dollars but in the labor costs is costing more 50 percent on the top of the budget the concrete and iron and car is only maybe 50 percent only but they do age liking just like taxi driver we do a lot and get a timely i went to the dmv and paid 4 hundred bucks they said i have a ticket so i cant know where i bring my case to get my money or why this is happened yes im not not trying to concern myself using only your mta but today a lot of people dont pay but the thing now is yes. You do need it and ocean view is subway is good but every year you have to look at this clearly a dollar you use is not easy to go away easy yes, he saw a lot of improvements like dui about say park and geneva and santa fe is an important spot a lot of People Living interest you ought to put the money there nobody complain but today, i have to cut a lot of office cuts and put the relabel on the top thats our power who is running the transportation last week new york only taxi thats why you have to put the color scheme an tmc the corruption more than you because they buy every assembly and bring the bill no commercial lists plate i saw this from the capital thank you. Is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment members of the board questions or comments. How are were going to get the oneonone offer. Yes. Mr. East to. You know i think that the first step to make this part of on advocacy piece with the 2030 that leads to half a Million Dollars in prop a approved by the voters of San Francisco it will chip away at the large number over time. I mentioned in my report a snapshot of the state of foyers in the state and the government has mentioned that this kind of analysis this you know our 20year plans addressed to barts and caltrain this is what helps identify the needs at the regional and state level the federal level so i think this is an important part of the advocacy you step one is understanding the needs and having a handle on what theyre to prioritize them probability not the whole 21 billion but in the spring fiscally 5 year plan for your k that can identify it is important and we have a requirement for a masters plan and as important to start to rely our needs only starting point in terms of being able to participate in future communications with the city region and state, federal level for the future. I think this was great and the process by which you did the analysis for the project was expressive and i know it go took a lot of work congratulations to the team that pit together the goals and the matrixes of it the only question in two years will we unfortunately is that number the main target every year will be increasing a little bit. We have seen it grow over time as new studies are undertaken and ideas are development so thats why it is the prioritization is important to say if we cant Fund Everything what are the most important things to seek funds that is the second part of the capital plan to identify and express the related permits of investment. Yeah. I wanted to express my deep gratitude for this work and everybody that contributed this is going to be a critical document it advocates are going to be able to depend on on well talk about measure 3 that confuses it happening in sacramento and d. C. This is the kind of stuff it

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