Call this the meeting will come to order. This is the Entertainment Commission im bryant tan the commission wanting a if you housekeeping items please turn off your cell phone if youre an member of the public like to make Public Comment we have cards up front go ahead and turn one into the staff ill call you when that comes on the agenda ear welcome to come up meantime and finally to sfgovtv and Media Services and recording it will to air to the public go ahead and start with the roll call of the Commission Commissioner perez commissioner thomas commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. Commissioner caminong has indicated she will be absent this evening. Great we have quorum first item on the agenda is general Public Comment for Public Comment on any item related to the business of Entertainment Commission that you dont see cumber on the agenda any Public Comment . All right. Not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. And move on to item 2 approval of the minutes from september 20th i think i did was handed no in the packet but outside big hole punches in the case youre looking for it missouri is there a second. Second. All right. A second Public Comment on this item . Not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Any revisions or edits didnt look like there are any lets. On the motion commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner thomas commissioner perez president tan that motion carries move on to item 3 the report from our executive director. Good evening, commissioners im going try to be brief i wanted to update you on the resolution that i brought this up that he last meeting regarding supervisor wieners resolution on the creation of an lgbtq Late Night Task force after the first hearing at the Land Use Committee the resolution went to the full board at which time supervisor campos returned it to committee that was reheard but very briefly this yesterday at land use and again is being moderator to the full board with recommendations i think that supervisor campos addition was just to wanting to insure is it fair to say inclusive as possible and this task force late night and heritage was not just south of market but also you know encompassed areas in the mission and obviously his district and anywhere else lgbt cultural existed well about get that clock ticking it gave us a passage at the full board about 6 months to return at least some form of the strategy to the board we pursue that and again any, any assistance in terms of who should be a part of this working group well happily take suggestions well do that in the next few weeks. Let me just go to skip over dill i dont think for a second and come back and done talking i handed out to you guys this item indicated was found number one 60478 frankly i dont understand but the commissioners to file Budget Committee heftd reports i gave you the whole thing to take home and read it im not sure it is passed at the board there was a substitutes i gave you the text but to bring campaigning government codes up to state sort of requirements and again, the gift that you might receive and making sure you file properly with ethics so take this home and frankly any questions ill refer to you to the City Attorneys Office to be clearer about what exactly this means to a degree there we go youve got it. Can i is this about contributions that we as commissioners are requesting or making a. Is that a question i should take up. I did give us the digest what exists on the amendment to this has to do with with the idea of using your commissioner position in such a way that maybe acts asks for donation from third partys without being confusing read if you have a question ill mess this up worse and ill refer you to the City Attorney so, yeah yesterday was a really cool two hour there abouts workshop that dillon put together for outdoor event producers and commissioner frost attended i want him to give you an update good evening, commissioners so, yeah yesterday we held the workshop called could improve our events that was the objectives to introduce the event producers to sustain the after events and listened to them in terms of their needs and priorities and bring some solutions and then collect this feedback as data that we can use formally for our evaluations efforts to recap the who what when had 20 pours come and recommended different events with the cardinal and data breakers and black catch22 sin and sunday streets and deimposition and marijuana and others we held feeds as one Public Comment is another and Revenue Streams another and emphasized keeping those discussions orient solutions we heard ideas we heard before we want to centralize the Applications Online you can track our status realtime or wave or lower the permit fees to support nonprofits and things like that i want to share a few examples of fresh ideas that i think show that we were able to expand the conversation and get more nittygritty to regarding the permitting and fees one solution was there Interagency Training with events with key con northern maybe the Entertainment Commission or department again for permitting and fees an after action from each agency that regulates the events good and bad things as a tracking tool for annual and for Revenue Streams another idea was you know for Department Regulations that spring u. S. Up an opportunity for an event producer to comment on changes and regulations you know so they can plan carol for a difference in revenue ill send all you guys a recap of the notes and materials from that and make sure that everything is complete you can take a deeper look and this dovetails into a development that relates to the collection and evaluation that is, we are going to be doing think evaluation report which i mentioned but we actually working with the citys civic Bridge Program and mckinsey and company signed on to volunteer pro bono with the evaluation were calling this improving and sustaining Outdoor Events in San Francisco ill be the project coordinator working closely to make sure we stay on the objectives make sure theyre met and basically, what wear covering look at the birds eye and grand letter view the Customer Service center and funding streams and how does San Francisco measure up to other cities in terms of best practices and analyzing things that factors that impact the success and failures of event not just from the point of view of the producer but from the regularity so i think the takeaway to this news is that you know myself and director kane and all of you once we get in a data that will be where sort of the work of the commission really starts where we can make those recommendations for policy change im not expecting the mckinsey people to be experts in making recommends but i think theyll be able to crunch hard data and theyll help us to really elevate this evaluation we have to move quickly were due to center the report in january and so right now, im finalizing and getting all the data so all the forms and the links to code and then two members from the mckenzie were at the workshop theyve dived in so ill update you guys as long as i have more information. Great so i know there is a survey that is out or going out. Yeah. What i know you named a couple of data sources what data are they looking at outside of the survey. So they are im helping them get a sense of belonging every Single Agency they interact with to do an event for example, if you have liquor and food and 25 hundred people and a street closure and public free admission you know you have to deal with 10 agencies at the very least and so theres nuances that are not apparent in the process youll not see if you look at the permits online. I guess what im asking are they interviewing people or looking at forms. So we havent figured out but were ill be the primary contact im interviewing all the people im sure that was not clear one by one and taking good notes so the point is not to have too many cooks i can share this information with them. Great. Yeah. Thank you, thank you. Other questions for either director kane or dillon. I was not quite done sorry i wanted to review quickly that we had discussed last meeting having Holiday Party and then there was some maybe internal go discussion amongst the president and staff around whether we should have the party on december 20th i dont care we have permits scheduled i want to get an idea from the commission our summit is in february so we are plenty of time for that but in terms of yeah which one of the december dates if there is one, if we have a Holiday Party it is always on a regular Commission Day well hold our really fast public merging and wherever venues were out of city hall so backing into all of this that would be great for you guys do put that in the pipe and let me know how to smoke that sooner than later. I think we should have the Holiday Party on december 20th. Okay and, yes thats my opinion it would have been a reagan meeting on that tuesday are you not available. Ill be out of town. Thats fortunate unfortunate but can we request get a quorum. Can we poll the commissioners. Im available. Are you available. I am. I am. Most of us are so we have quorum so i dont think that takes a motion december 20th will be the the Holiday Party a regular meeting of on december 6th in addition fantastic im done and wanted to hand it over to jordan you have a report from sean burke inspector burk he had to attend on the other hand, attend a Community Meeting this evening in the southern station related to some of the violence that went on over the weekend in lui of him not being here he can attempt to speak to any questions you might have or hold them until next meeting or email him whatever you think you need im going to turn it over to inspector pauley unless you have questions. Questions commissioners nope all right. Inspection pauley good evening, commissioners several items to go over with i did an inspection at the mays on polk street they received a bunch of complaint over foot traffic and noise i did a walk through of the venue and talked with the owner we talked several times through phone communication and explained the concerns of the neighbors that are complaining im preserved the issue but nevertheless, explained as well as there is security so the issue was about loitering we talked about this last hearing objective on that block there is a bunch of venues operating at the Maximum Capacity it is hard to point the finger at mays but nevertheless, he talked with management theyre on board to alleviate the issue i performed a sound teste Great Northern and in support of poe they dont have neighbors so they peaked at one 12 during the sound test and it was not particularly loud outside but will change with the freeway traffic ill be fine with that kind of sounds like alignment if there are changes in the neighborhood there maybe changes coming but well communicate about that if there is something that needs to change but that sounds like test went fine a new complaint im not sure there was a letter written in regards to issues that are added club malibu we originally got a complaint about a month and a half ago about ventilation holes they cut i dont persevere to be an issue but the Building Code may i dont know about cutting holes into the walls but nevertheless, the neighbors are serious about whatever issues they preserve so what well be doing performing residential sound inspection to figure out the impact that the noise impact is compliant or not and also ill be i talked to the operator about the issues before but we didnt get deep but nevertheless, i think there are things they can do immediately to take care of the sounds like situation if there is a sound wlaek like look at it scientifically youll update you on that that and expect more information to come forward you and know in the letter they talked about people urinating and playing the radios and no security when the club closes i know youll inspection the actual but did you talk about the security. Not particularly about that i go by every weekend and dont see that at all ive never seen that but they live there. A friendly reminder didnt hurt. Right everything in the letter youll address with the operator so they know what the neighbors are saying and go from there. Expect update probably next hearing im not sure what the schedule for the neighborhoods or get the sounds like test test done but ferlsz it is in the cue. Fillmore major had one particular complaints with that was amazed i went by and looked at it you know thats another place fillmore in the marina where the whole area busy but nevertheless, he talked with one of the manager a person about the noise o noise complaint and she would theyll do something about it were open to whatever you want us to do but at this time i dont know there is anything but monitor the issue and obviously do something about that. Another issue we had a few weeks ago with the delirium and i did a visible inspection pass by that area anyway when i determined is that a lot of the foot traffic on the corner is a people passing by another busy area and people tend to congregate a little bit down from the venue not at the venue and smoke and whatever and keep going on their way and thats another thing ill keep an eye on but nevertheless, not want to put the responsibility on the venue in this particular case and performed. Couple of contact one at the boom, boom room and another housekeeping type of things if you have any other questions ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Commissioner lee. So when they up to the time ring with the harmonies of liberty; cut this hole in the building how many. Two for like i want to say 10 inch ventilation. And would it block or air coagulate in and out. Like a fan basically i mean. An air conditioner it is plugged. An exhaust fan. Basically an exhaust fan i think when i say was the hole it is close to the stage no baffling so it is open. There is sound getting out and well see whatever impact on the neighborhood but you know all the complaints are krovm from the other side and there are people that live by walgreens and think theyll be complaining if there is a serious noise issue when i drive by i dont see that. Were talking about windows all the time and putting a hole with a fan there is free air flo. Well to be frank i dont think that is was the most insulate the duck. Installation and put all your eggs in one basket on the other side. Check that out and then the matrix on the first name is it basically because it gets warm inside because they leave their glass door open. I dont think so the complaint doesnt specify. When you went there was the door open. The door a usually opening and closing not like sitting open. What is it closed you dont hear much. I dont hear anything about that saying thats fillmore magical but sometimes theyre busy im not there all times of the net if 10110 or 20 minutes the door was open. When you walked by what is it on or closed. It was closed but not like proposed open. I have one question on the Great Northern on the dvd is that inside or outside. It was inside. It was d d c. So 15. But one and 15 d b c is 90 d b. A. Yeah. It depends on the sound but there might be a 15 percent drop off so maybe library 98 d b. A. Somewhere. Ill have to look at the meter. Once you get outside. I actually didnt take a reading outside in this particular case they dont have neighbors when the first one i had a close the door and go outside and listen it wasnt highly perspective they have about i want to say about 20 or so yards if the door to the first speaker that is passenger seat into the Building Space between the speakers and the door so, i mean, it wasnt particularly loud outside but from now and then i will but no neighbors so they need additional soundproofing. Not that i know of. Theyve remodeled the whole place they probable did and one and 50 bbc is. Not very loud all right. Any other questions for inspection pauley lets open up for Public Comment any Public Comment on the staffer report not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Item 4 Police Department questions or comments. Nice to see you tonight do we have anything and no . Yes a long time no see. President tan lieutenant San FranciscoPolice Department i think everything is aware we had a homicide on one the licensed businesses i cannot go into a lot of details the fact we had an incident 3 or so months ago it ruled in the loss of a life and just up until 5 oclock director kane and others metabolic owners of club as well as their Security Team and we were discussing the most recently incident and what i can tell you tonight is that ill speak for the Police Department my takeaway i was not satisfied with their responses and i think that well be coming back to the commission in the near future with some specific actions and were going to be working on that now were working i have staff working on stuff well be working on it through the week and i think well see where it takes us but the sense that i got from the meeting and from captain fong got they didnt want to take a lot of responsibility i think when we experience that with an egregious incident they might be lorgz perspective on their responsibility this license is a privilege they procreate a licensed business and have certainly responsibilities as such so we hope to move thoroughly but as swiveling as possible are they open. Yes. I know the last time they voluntarily closed for like a month. Yeah. Well, i know they reopened but after the incident. The first incident they served an 18 day volunteer will i closure to do rebranding and in fact, they did that and meet many of the goals and objectives so all that was positive but unfortunately, this in the short lapse of time this is the ultimate crime we get to get on top of and ahead of that i would have liked the meeting to have gone differently but that was their choice so thankful been we kind of told them our feelings how the meeting of time and at the conclusion theyre aware so specifically president tan theyre operating where this goes to the immediate future well see. I have a question for you in the last year other than those two homicides has there been any other places of entertainment to your knowledge. I have to say 0 no. In my opinion this commission and the Treatment Community worked hard not to be the source of violation our submits were born and the staff has to make that happen. I know youre waiting to say the Police Department has done. And the Police Department has done to have two homicides in 3 months at the same venue is incredibly troubling. Seriously speaking absolutely. And so, yeah okay. Id like to bring up one other point. I dont want it to be a reflection on the entire Entertainment Community we work hard as a community to make sure that kind of stuff doesnt happen. We did have an uptick in homicides this past weekends i want to point out monopoly of those occurs in absence absent or entertainment licensed venues those are unrelated and not part of your purview. Commissioner frost. Id like to echo when commissioner joseph said in light of what goes on in communities when people brush a wide stroke over an organization as much as the Entertainment Commission this is only you know one not two but one place and the rest of the city the Entertainment Venues have been Public Comment is closed. When you say your disappointed was it their actions before this happened or the actions afterwards or like are they not helping with the investigation or they not willing to forward and make changes you guys are suggesting. They have the unique experience of having experience at this the first incident and the first incident didnt communitybased that well but this was theyre first time going through the process we went to Great Lengths explaining this is not a point the finger but understand what happened and need to fix it and booster the areas, etc. So i think what i want to leave you with our anticipation today was they were going to across town come in and recognize they have a role in the incident it is unfortunate and what more can he do collaboratively thats not the takeaway i got a lot of defensiveness and some in this investigation it is extremely preliminary our goal quite frankly is were going to bifurcate the Homicide Investigation from the receive vacation or abc revocation were not going to table this while we solve a homicide ill not be talking about the homicide itself thats a fact thats the part that i plan to bring forwards i want to bring forward the relationship this specific privileged licensed business has to homicide that maybe the grounds for disciplinary action up to including ref indication. Commissioner lee. So i a change of management in the last year. If i can interrupt this is not on the agenda this comes before you as an adjudicator manner i have to be mindful of what you discuss this evening. Well, if 2 gets to that point. Right commissioner frost. I know that you know this anytime anything happens in the city you know we want to find out how it happened if so there is preventive measures throughout the city can learn from what happened and in one events the best practices that we always institute across the board. Commissioner frost i could not have said that better we absolutely agree and at a minimum the takeaway needs to be better run operations but back to one of our earlier comments by no means a reflection of the industry weve been doing on extraordinary job that you look at what was going on four or five years and many people some on the commission worked very, very hard to overcome that we do it and successfully thats why the department will encourage this commission to look at the facts and be as aggressive as appropriate. Well, thank you for giving us a preview what we have to deliberate it is unfortunate that happened i dont think there is any more commissioner questions or comments any Public Comment on the Police Comments not seeing any. Public comment is closed. Move on to item 5 Live Performance in the union commissioner district. I apologize today was a little bit crazy as you heard i dont think this was in our package a piece of legislation that was introduced and it is very simple so this item is pretty much clear on what it is what were doing today is asking this commission to authorize me as the director to similar to the c clerk stating our endorsement or not have that piece of legislation that allows that one hour extension on the loophole will thats across the city initial 2, 3, 4 if creating llps citywide to 10 00 p. M. Then there was this additional how are you could achieve if you want no complaint operating for a year it carve outs two or three be neighborhoods this is one of them from the getgo so what happened in the meantime i think the bus stop had an about 3 years okay. And has had no complaints as far as we know because of this prohibition had to go to the sfofz this change of code happened like i said, im sorry the text is not in your package is taking puts back in the union street no other llp in that ncd right now so really this is impactful for one business in particular and you know potentially can combat others though weve not had industry businesses come ask this is authorizing an hour and ultimately youre not approving the legislation youre either directing me to either send a clerk from the Entertainment Commission in support or not depend on you what you decide. Do you know why the industry was excluded in the first place. When we created the loophole will that that was supervisor is the sponsor and a whole bunch of supervisors jumped on as cosponsors and everyone in the office asked their Community Groups if theyre supportive and there were three or four Community Groups that made it clear to the supervisors theyre not interested in ever seeing these permits go past 10 00 p. M. Passed on through the supervisors. It was a communities decision, if you will. One hour; right . One hour. Correct. So are you asking for a motion. I am im asking for for a motion to direct staff. Say it. To authorize the director to send a letter to the clerk of the board of supervisors for the engrossment of proposed ordinance. So moved. Thank you. Marcus book store any other discussion not seeing any, Public CommentPublic Comment is closed. Commissioner perezs commissioner thomas commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. That item passes move on to item 6 the Residential Development consent calendar there are 3 here lets do a motion. I move to approve. A motion to approve the consent calendar is there a second . I second. Dollars a second any Public Comment on the review calendar. Not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Lets vote. Im going to ask same house, same call . And yep. Yep that item passes move on to item 7. Hearing and possible action regarding the application for permit flat jurisdiction of the Entertainment Commission ill pass to the deputy director. So this evening he wanted to speak in our item with leading you back to the coffee shop we had a hearing on september 20th for an llp you had asked to continue this to this evenings agenda to have the owner and manager come back with more details and responses to our questions the following day i did receive a phone call from the owner they withdrew their permit application we sent it to the tenderloin station and dont necessarily think we need to do a motion. No, theyve withdrew it themselves. Did you inform that one neighbor theyve withdrawn that. Yes. Uhhuh. All right. So our actual first application for this evening is for a change no ownership for a club deluxury im sure you know in other heart of hate neighborhood on hate street been there 26 years their they have live music jazz and they dixie land blues im sure youve been there and the new owners managed the venue so for years and taken over the premises after the passing the previous owner so they actually plan on keeping the operation exactly the same in the file theyve gotten letters of support they received one letter of protest on the on top of the Neighborhood Outreach and included the Planning Commission motion that is attached to this address and that will Carry Forward from the previous permit on the new permit are conditions on this permit as well and the owners are aware of that park station approved this permit but recommends mandatory security on friday through sunday so here to tell you a little bit more of their application are club deluxu. Owne owners. Good evening, commissioners. Closer you can prop it. Maggie thank you for that introduction lets see club delux around for 26 years the previous owner started it as a swing club and capitalized the Swing Movement it settled down and became a jazz lounge it continued on for probably 17 years after that or so he got sick and passed away recently and he gave it to my husband chris and myself to take care of lets see see a little bit about us we i worked with jay ibarra at the end and managed the club for 4 years this was jason vision he gave it to us because delux was his baby he knew wed take care of it and keep it going moving on into the future with the same vision he had for that it was a jazz venue and like maggie mentioned we have all kinds of jazz some of the musicians have played there are for 20 years some are brand new and welcome them we love jazz we love being a home for musicians and our intention to make a few changes but for the most part to keep it the same. What changes. Well, we created a website we have a phone that people answer laughter we would like to be a much more inclusive establishment jay and lianyway were cleaningt up a little bit those types of things not major. Commissioner joseph. So you say you have a b3 video. It and does that have a speaker that goes with it. Yes. Very, very cool. A lot of musicians like that the b3 is one of my favorite instruments do you have security there at all. We have security most thursday, fridays and saturday meaning a door person with a guard card. Yes. Because of your occupancy you only need one. Our crowd is very mellow. According to the code you need only one. Thank you very much. Youre aware the police have recommended that there is security on those same nights. Yep. And youre fine with that. Yep. Great. Commissioner lee. So some of the changes going to be soundproofing i know that has been there a long time when i was reading this one first, the neighbors claimed there is a wall in the back are you planning to do any modifications or anything. Theres if this is accept and expend we can do ill be happy to do that and one opens up next to her apartmental door she comes in and close it when it gets to be two loud. Thats your responsibility so no air conditioning or any kind of acting in the building. Typically, it didnt get two hot unless its kroutdz. You, you read the Good Neighbor policy and everything they gave you. She shouldnt have to shut the window; right . Okay. Commissioners sorry go ahead. Some suggestions if you live there what would you do. I mean, were looking to try to help her out help her out her life if get disturbed by your establishment so other than to say the window has to be open not she has to live with that. What would i do if you were her. Let me if you dont have a response well go to commissioner joseph. The code says you have to keep the doors and windows closes do you have internal fans in the room. Yes. What kind of and a ceiling fan and two vents. Two what two vents i want you to look at a standing fan with a very bighead stick it in the corner and let it help you circulate the air but you can be cited for keeping a window open you shouldnt do that but try to move the air around it is not a big room but try it and the fans are not expensive dont get those winds tunnel your venue will not work well but the tall metal ones try that and see if that helps and let our neighbor know youre going to do that and let her know your in fact, concerned about here complaint. Okay. All right. Commissioner thomas. Any night i think we have been in club delux its a wonderful place but having the neighbors complaining is how clubs gets shut down and you really cant leave the window open you need to find a different ventilation solution for your musicians and audience that didnt involve having a neighbor having to come over and close the window herself i appreciate the neighborhood runs itself but, yeah if you can figure out a different solution whether fans or you know talk to some of the other club owns so we dont have to come back all over the place in some period of time with complaint from the neighbors. As an operator it is annoying you, you have a phone number and you want to run our business you dont get interrupted you have to turn down your sound because the next door neighborhood can hear you so making the changes consider had the inspection goes out and go a sound check hell tell you and you can go from there. Okay. And commissioner perez. Hello thanks for skoim who is responsible for answering the phones whether there is a complaint from the neighbor and the staff the bartender or whoever is there. I think supposed to be the manager on duty to answer the phone and respond immediately sorry who answers the phone or complaints. You have one phone then who is responsible if there is a complaint from the neighbors to respond. We are. We typically respond. What is your policy and how soon are the responding to complaints. Like i said an issue she will come down and ask us to close the window then we close it. So right away. All right. Thank you. Ill suggest you reread the Good Neighbor policy so all the permits we permit come with 13 conditions that is a you have to do this and that and a phone number not keep our windows open and ventilation make sure you read and follow the rules i think that well be happy to give you the permit as long as you follow the rules so id like to open up for Public Comment unless other conversions questions or comments. Have a seat. Anyone from the public that is interested in coming up go ahead and have a seat. No Public Comment oh, theres one. Great. Yeah. A number of years ago i got in the hate but this is not why im up here he with work Community Groups and after hearing someone say shes a Business Owner and great shes inherited the operation of a business but obviously they havent realized there is a lot of responsibility operating a business and i think that maybe there needs to be some continued mitigation so the neighborhood people that are complaining realize those mitigations are actually going to happen i mean everybody that comes here for a permit wants something in the Entertainment Commission and wants to be signed off quickly and all of that im not sure if the this is an expedited matter to be expedited by the way, im Michael Nolte and it just seems after hearing the responses that they responding assessing yes, we have to do this and that i think that one the business is a legacy business and should stay in bills but operate in a manner that doesnt cause future problems or policing by the Entertainment Commission put your wisdom mats on owe decide what is best for the Business Owner and the neighborhood im glad to see there were a lot of questions asked and appreciate your time. Additional Public Comment all right. Not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners. I want to move to approve. And with the condition that the owners contact their neighbor and let her know theyll work on some ventilation like get a fan or Something Like that thats my motion. Including the police conditions. Oh, yeah, they have to have security zero to one hundred one; right . Great is there a second. Second. All right. A second take to vote. Same house, same call . Yep. That item passes good luck. Move on to our second permit of the night. Our next is place of entertainment for black indicate on eddy street in the tenderloin restaurant and bar and live jazz in their basement area really cool please note we received a couple of unanimous 311 complaint this ventilation applied for the poe weve not received letters of protest and the owner worked with all the neighborhoods their support in the file and signatures of this Neighborhood Outreach and it seems like the neighbors are not hearing entertainment inside anymore other than that tenderloin station approved it with the Good Neighbor policy and adherence to the security plan as conditioned here to tell you more been the premise is owner. Take the opportunity to speak to you id like to take a few moments ago about the background of the vision and turn briefly to programming infrastructure and the outreach that we conducted many decades beginning in the 19 hundreds you mean the history of the tenderloin the heart and soul of the city drawing people from all walks of life to the jazz the tenderloin was home to one of the most famous jazz bands the black hawk about a block and a half from the black cat that club hosted some of the jazz names in the world billy holiday and every musician at the time and miles davis recorded one of the biggest al bad news bad news it was eddy and mason a vibrant atmosphere all people from all walks of life enjoyed diner and jazz by the 19 san jose the scene the tenderloin was the jude heart of the city was not the hot spot for arts and entertainment the scene move on to north beach at a time and forward to may 2016 i toured eddy that was kaufshtd into two restaurants vacated one a delipidated Chinese Restaurant with 7 foot ceiling and the former a vietnamese restaurant gambling house it ceased to exist with 7 foot ceilings the 3w5e789 space assessable by a staircase was kaufrd into tiny rooms that space should not have been used except for storage when i first sobered the space i heard and felt the energy of a jazz and super club and with jazz flowing into the room standing in the space that first day that name black cat came upon me i didnt roles until a couple of weeks later Historic Events existed in San Francisco by that name it was a vision to bring the super club to the city we spent two years getting the place and designing and building a space that would pay homage to the glory days of the community and it helped to restore that that was the vision of black cat that was 7 foot ceilings now welcomes more tables for dining a center bar the downstairs space as a variety of seating options including the bar and people socialize in the downstairs space at the stamp a grand poa a acoustical curtains and lighting i want to talk about the full service at the super from 5 30 to 2 00 a. M. And serve the food menu and opened the doorways on july 28th if we go back to april of this past year we asked our attorney to initiative the process for how to get a license we paid the fee to our attorney our attorney compact the Entertainment Commission and mistakenly advised us that the application could not be processed until we received our Liquor License and operating permit our attorney based on the mistaken understanding put the circulati application on hold our attorney then resumed the application process to become fully compliant in terms of our programming we will feature live jazz 7 days a week in october Live Performance are limited not basement area of the venue we feel our program is unique we bring some of the took up local musicians together and create ongoing resident sisters and performance that didnt exist in the city and opened all nights to young jazz musicians giving them the rare opportunity to sit in with older jazz musicians and top talent this create a organic atmosphere i think this atmosphere is a true home for not only jazz musicians but brings together a great audience and others that are hearing jazz for the first time people in their 20s and 30s oh, my god this is amazing our guests represent a difference demographic residents from the tenderloin and every other neighborhood theyre young and old from every ethnicity thats the situation that is seldom seen in the city we took care duo to have a high quality listening environment that allows warm acoustics and protects our neighbors we did 3 things we hired a retired engineer who designed and built our acoustical environment in the sound system and number 2 the performances are limited to the lower level only we install four layers of acoustical materials on both it florals the fiber glass and a double layer of sheetrock a layer of quiet rock and acoustical material so youll four layers exist on all 4 floors and our speakers were insulated to float them to minimize in any noise we invested a sum in the acoustical materials to protect our neighbors and create a comfortable listening environment since the opening two complaint early had in the process those isolated incidents were in transitional incidents those issues have been worked out and no additional complaint i want to just to be clear a high priority for us to be a Good Neighbor weve done it in many, many ways sound is important and dont anticipate noise issues i can assure you well quickly address those that are brought up u out in terms of operations we have an experienced team of seasoned professionals to manage our business a residence engineer not the folks that control the himself the Live Performance are in the basements their barley accountable and not you cant hear them on the center when the guests come and go and stand outside and those cant be heard our general manager collin managed one of the most the largest restaurant Entertainment Venues in the Mission Successfully for more than 3 years thats in the mission colleen organs our security staff those are 5 that gh are why a i couldnt a finally weve met our neighbors and talking about a programming hours of operation security and be neighborhood integration we have first of all, obtained more than 50 signatures from the neighbors in support of our license and over the month we talked with neighbors and gotten verbal support for what were doing and the improvements of the quality of life in the streets in the neighborhood at nuts and bolts night and being a Good Neighbor is a key component and worth mentioning staff and chef were hired from the neighborhood and working closely with the neighbors and they support our project our second outreach is the presentation to randy shaw randy is the director the tenderloin housing a nonprofit focused on Community Housing support in the tenderloin right off the bat is a well connected he reached out to a Network Based on his views in the conversation with those he submitted his letter of support letter of support for our treatment license and finally reached out to the Mary Elizabeth thinking it is located in the building the hotel where the black cat is located they expressed theyre positive energy were bringing to long dark corn of las vegas worth and eddy and provided direct contact for any complaints to be dealt with prompting we have a telephone that is answered every night and any issues brought to our attention will be dealt with prompting i believe the type of entertainment we offer is important it fosters the diversity of attempt that made our city the unique place and ask for your support tonight. Great, thank you for that thorough presentation. An hour and a half left. Thank you for the notes. Im impressed you did our homework and covered every base for sure i have a couple of questions so again, all of this installation is on top of each other you with two levels of sheetrock on top of you have quiet and other materials. Correct. And can you tell me is the ceiling also insulated. It is Pretty Amazing telling me what kind of speakers. No. Can you tell me how big. They are 12 inch speakers about this size and mounted so upstairs. How many. On the street level we have 6 speakers on, on the basement level thats for house music means our play list on the basement level 40 speakers and two stage speakers the 2 stage speakers are 24 inch speakers. Are they on stands. Theyre mounted to the sides of the stage. Are they for the musicians or the audience. They are for the audience. We have monitor as well on the floor for musicians. You have monitored can you tell me once again how big our room is downstairs. 24 hundred square feet and upstairs 2000 square feet. So you have 4 speakers downstairs and two on stands mound to the walls and monitor speakers wedges on the stage . Correct thats correct. Okay. And you dont know what is in the speakers. What size. I did not know. All right. And do you have a sound board. We have a sound engineer that can figure the sound board. About you came here and operated all of this work was done. No, we created this environment. All of that work was done before you came here but you were operating and complaint. It sounds like no complaint based on what you said so did you find out what we were complaining about. What was haven in the building was a base visitation in the time we were experiencing with moving base guitars that since been disconnected we are transitioning our controls from a stationary console to a remote so the trans inference our sounds like engineering was trying to bring it into fine tuning. Do you have the base speaker. The base is no longer connected to the system. Did you remove that completely. It is removed completely yes. Is okay so the base was interfering into pipes out the door. I find it hard to believe you had any complaints whatsoever i mean tech is one of the finest soundproofing you used quiet rock and preinsulated with fiber glass we use in our homes and you have isolation mounts on your speakers it is hard to that believe that happened. We agree. But it did happen. We firmly believe that was related to the base i talked with the person that filled the complaint they felt vibrations on the floor so we were confident that was what it was and this is this venue as has not been used at night so having any change they were 415 sensitive we spoken as to the residence and no issues i think that was that transitional time for us how what youre base speaker a sub called a sub because all of your speakers have base. In order for them to work right was this one speaker a sub an extra base what happened is when a base player it can go to the microphone not picking up the same base sound use their deattached base speaker is more localized our sounds like engineer tried to get the base hooked. Thats the amp so youre talking about the musicians a. M. For the base guitar. When a no our sound engineer was giving the base player the option of tax on outlet and plugging into our system so in terms of of our house system was at the amplification for the baits that was directly exactly. Plugged the bases into da bases at the time but not happening. There was a wonderful jazz club in north beach called the black cat as well. Commissioner lee. I know they want all the musicians to go through the board to control the base in this case the base was pleasing and the board it was great you isolated and not go through the board but control your musician because depending on the band they love to crankup the base you have no control. So the deal you probably got the double wham i didnt not putting it in the board your sound like engineer can control the base. What we do now the base is actually, we use a microphone rather than a direct. Thats what we do. I hope you get. Hold of jazz she celebrate a birthday and her partner sunny have been dying for a real jazz club sins she closed her spot. One of my favorite spots. Id like to share that phone number. Commissioners questions or comments where is the stage i dont see it in the diaphragm. So the stabilize is downstairs at the south ended the venue. So is that cross from the bar like on the opposite end. Correct. Correct. So thats right the stage. On the eddy street side. Im not a sound expert im as a urban residents i grew up 2 blocks from where your opening anytime a business that comes into the tenderloin and wanted to bring life into the area and get people to incur if so a great place to be it makes me exist and proud thank you for taking that risk and sounds like a loyal fan base. I appreciate that. All right. I think well take Public Comment two speakers here already with speaker cards go ahead and have a seat. First is calling names . And anyone else wants to speak go ahead and stand up after them. All right. How you doing this evening im mr. Taylor im a ive been living in california since i was im a well traveled musician that has come across the black cat through a friend who come into town to play at the black cat for like their second week of opening we he advised me that was Something Like we grew up about 20 years ago as was mentioned in north beach there was a a lot of great music especially jazz pearls and around the corner another place it had a name of a cat but i dont think it might have been the fat cat but as a jazz musician there are few places to play nowadays especially e line which he sees oakland is able to caterer to local musician one day a week and thats very limit for the amount of musicians out here so to find a place to allow to have expression as a musician and still allow for jazz to actually happen a lot of places ive approached understand that they can only draw a crowd with you know base heavy amplified, you know, hip hop or whatnot even if it is rock so have places like the prior venue that i played in the club delux but understand that there are many people who have come in who have never heard this music before. Your time is up. Walter earl is next. Anyone else that wants to speak. Hi. I dont know what to say my name is walter earl ive been here 20 years and what brought me here was ricky heavens and tony bennett im a little bit nervous and worked with a lot of guys that played with miles and negotiators i got started in north beach and when he came here before i got here he read every book about north beach and the tenderloin i used to walk by stallion to see this mans picture on the the wall and other guys pictures didnt release that was like you know the guys from the jazz quintet and now, mr. Charles houston told me about the history of jazz and this is one of the reasons i came i won best jazz musician and now at the black cat with my troy and study with the late joe and bring those names i recommend any guys here and represent the t l thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you pr say your name. My name is Michael Nolte im the executive director for the Better Alliance we have several concerns first tonights notice was not post on the black cats window as required as of today, i have pictures but cant take them off any camera both sides of the building dont have pictures the Business Owner have not reached out to the Community Groups i was talking to in time ceos about their Entertainment Permit we also were concerned about the proper notification to the Community Outreach ii dont know who the 50 people have come and the signatures like i pointed out but could have been his patrons and so therefore asking for a continuance to our next meeting the stakeholder meeting that includes all aspects the neighborhood not just reaching out to the pertaining to come to our next meeting tuesday at the 6 30 eddy in the Community Room a block and a half away from the venue we are asking for continues until the proper Community Outreach to the community and which shouldnt cause any problems so also, we are on another note because we say were neutral were glad to see a Security Guard outside of the premise but like them to continue to do more lighting like cadillac does across the street that shine on the sidewalks is the kind of things we like to see bright sidewalks. You sir, your time is up. All right. One more Public Comment. Looks so dapper. On a positive note president tan and commissioner my name is mark in early april working on a business up the street in the same block a supra that has a sushi bar and Liquor License and carolyn one of the owners took me to the black cat i dont see any things in this town very, very, very few things that blow my mind it is beautiful on the worst corner in town i drive by and try to see what is going on they have Smart Security welldressed they have this thing lit up like huge lighting lit up like daytime that is a crazy thing to do go on this corner the other night i had friends that were hunger a couple of us can we have dinner it was 8 30 so maybe in an hour, hour and a half theyre doing well, a beautiful, beautiful spot all i can see bravo good job guys. All right. More Public Comment great. Stefan i want to reiterate what mark said that was one of the most thorough presentations for a vine this gentleman it was wellthoughtof out but if he put this energy into his presentation that will be a godsend down there north beach history that was a harry he means black cat more brown said they finally named a place after him that is what the neighborhood needs michael is a great activist ill hope you move to vote and fill out the applications you cyberly and have a topnotch plan those people know what theyre doing make a motion to vote on that and after today make a recommendation they speak so some of the neighborhood groups but not hold this up this cant happen fast enough for this community down there thank you. Thank you. Any Public Comment not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners just a point of clarification with our staff are you aware of postings of the notifications. Yes. He received photos went to the venue after it was posted for 20 days so, yeah believe that was posted for the thirty days requires which technically could could have end for today. Commissioners a motion youd like to make. Id like to move to approve and direct the applicant to speak to mr. Nolte and his group and go to his meeting with the condition of approval move to approve. There is a motion and a second i looked at the pictures on it is it a beautiful place on yelp. Lets take a vote. I want to say the black cat in north beach holds a particular point in lgbtq night life in San Francisco thats worth something. For sure. All right. Lets go ahead and take a vote. Same house, same call . Good luck. That means that item passes. All right. Move on to our final permit of the night which is a limit Live Performance from the laundry. All right. Our final permit for an llp for the laundry on 3359, 26 street a cafe and art gallery that wants to have attempt including performance and art and djs and fashion and live music as a accessory use ending by 10 00 p. M. Daily the owner did a creative method of outreach youll see in our file on Online Campaign received a lot of support for this application youll see i dont receive any letters of protest the commission station recommends approval here to tell you more is mark and the owner cynthia. Ill let cynthia do most of talking president tan and commissioners mark again this the laundry is basically an art gallery and Creative Space ive been in the building they own the building it is beautiful and actually going for a year or so i dont believe there is no entertainment but they have a lot of closings and groups in there holds perhaps one or one hundred 50 people im proud to have those guys as clients theyve got a beautiful thing going the people have met their young they tend to work for a Large Tech Companies and i told one of the partners i was very honest i said i have a problem with you guys coming to town i sat and talked with them and theyre the exception trying to keep the arts and cultural alive in San Francisco is to be applauded in the packages is really good letters of support including someone from aerial sutro family on the board of the music etc. , etc. Those guys did a lot of great outreach and great work so for and im hopefully, were get a continental granted tonight and here to talk about cynthia and she can cynthia the general manager and been in business essentially for a couple are most but under renovation for awhile and existed to open our doors the mission of laundry to bring creators and artists together in a space of 5 thousand square feet over two floors and where we build Community Connections as well as creativity we have invited different artist for art exhibits over the past few months most are sf arent they brought one of their artists on board and worked with different muralists to paint other than the back wall and a San Franciscobased artists a lot of the outreach has been with trying to connect the Community Back to the mission theres a lot of gentrification that is going on and my partners and i are from a technically backward and want to dispel that notation that the tech is trying to push out the local neighborhood but make it a hub for local residents and bring programming the reason we want to get a live perform we are getting requests if performs in the area want to do Performance Art and spoken art weve gotten a lot of requests for if you have any questions, well be happy to answer theming gal lists music we had to say not to delay a lot of questions we dont have the Live Performance license yet weve done a lot of outreach with our online petition over three hundred signatures and reached out to all our neighbors next door touching our waltz as well as the neighborhood in front of us and behind us some are merchant and some are neighbors theyve shown all their support for what we want to do like i said, we have two floors so if we were to have performances theyll be only in our basement level and as were building the space we made up that the noise aways was solicited and concrete between us and the neighbors any noise that we will have will be insulate to that basement area thats all i have to say thank you. Have you had any one time permit events or you denied everyone that wanted to have live music. No, we never had a permitted event the only events weve held are art exhibits as well as like daytime events a speaker and we 36 theyve gotten i guess well, they did they did get a permit that they can serve alcohol thats about it. Yeah. Not necessarily music performs. Yeah. Weve been cognizant of the area because it is taken us 3 years to finally open we want to make sure we wouldnt losses our business license great that was an option. You could have endorsed commissioners, i guys have any questions. No. All right. Thats fairly simple go ahead and have a seat. Any Public Comment on the laundry will permit application . All right. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners being well, i move to approve this with the Good Neighbor policy that goes with that second. There is a motion and a second lets take a vote. Not the same house commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner thomas commissioner perez president tan. That motion carries and good luck and with our limited Live Performance there. All right. That finishes up our permits tonight item number 8 commissioners questions or comments commissioners commissioner lee. It was brought up to me had a question and told them to talk with jocelyn on the Residential Development. Commissioner wiener. What about commercial is it applied to converse i mean somebody asked me if there are areas zoned as commercial with no residential do they get the same treatment or go though the process. Im not sure how to answer that question the review process was created related tool Residential Development between three hundred feet of places of entertainment commercial development primarily includes people sleeping, however. Yeah. So not covered so the answer is inform today was an introduction to add hotel motel use to our review well have to rename our committee if this passes through the board as far as commercial buildings getting a review not parts of it all the legislation nor do i see any possible way politically to get that to work im not sure when a about the conflict. This was an office space i know. Someone works if in their office until late at night and leveling street it is not possible but office space is. Whats the conflict. If the Office People that work laid. To how late and sometimes if it is tech you dont know 10 or 11 at 234i89. The simple action no protection for commercial space. Specifically to 11 street that was designed and recommended in terms of that particular zone because they saw them as complimenty use rather than residential use. I couldnt answer the question. Now you can. Can yeah. Not that we dont care about the commercial buildings but care more about people that are sleeping in beds. Thats kind of it for the committee. Thats true. Supervisor. I want to give a shout out inform maggie for completing the unanimous report i know shes been working very, very hard and it is two year xriend issues congratulations and good job and want to shout out to dill i dont think for doing the meeting im sorry i missed it i was working offsite and looking forward to the next one. Can i give a shout out back at you commissioner perez did all the design work so it would have looked like a lame document if not for him. You are a purview it looks awesome. Were not loudly to print them saving trees but a link on the website so anyone can see it for time to come you know. Great. Any other commissioners questions or comments commissioner frost. Would like to say i enjoyed the get together with the group. Thank you. A lot of effort into it and the people that i was surrounded with were energized and happy about it. Im happy to hear that. Did people show up for the happy hour. Yeah. A good turn out. I was going to try to make that to that. Any Public Comment on commissioner comments item 9 future agenda items i have one reminder to make for our permits i think at one up to this point in time we asked if nothing out of ordinary with our live permits go to a consent calendar so that could speed up up the process just as another tool in tool in the tool kit so know that weve seen i think the last live permits i feel like we could have gotten some of them relatively quickly. All right. All right. Any Public Comment on the new items seeing none, this the meeting is adjourned at alright everyone w started. I want to welcome you today. My name is Supervisor Malia Cohen and your district 10 supervisor. How are you . Good morning this is a big day for all of us here. Okay, i want to thank we will have translation today. I want to thank ocia frubeing here from the mayors aufss for doing the translation. Okay, here we are, we are gathered at 66