>> the meeting will come to order. the meeting will come to order. welcome to the monday, march 13, 2023 meeting of the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'm supervisor matt dorsey chair. i'm joined by vice chair walton and member safai. on behalf of my clegs i want to express gratitude to the committee clerk victor young and sfgovtv for staffing the meeting and especially jason. >> mr. clerk do you have announced. >> board and the committee are convening hybrid meetings that allow public comment and remote access via telephone. access is essential and take public comment first at each item on the agendaful those in person will be first and then take those who are on the phone line of the for watching 26, 78, 78 and 99 and sfgov.org the number is strolling on the screen it is 415-655-0001. access code: 2489 884 3434 ## you will hear the discussions and in listening mode only when your item come up and public comment is called. those in person should lineup to speak special thoughed on the phone dial star 3 to be added to the speaker line. if you are on the phone remember to turn down your tv and other listening device. we'll take public comment from those in person first and then to the public comment phone line. alternateively you may submit in writing mail them to the rules clerk at victor. young sfgov.org if you submit it via e mail tell be forwarded to the supervisors include part of the file. you may send written comments u.s. mail to city hall, 1 dr. carlton b. goodlett place room 244, san francisco, california 94102. today i like to note this item 5 the applicant vikrum aiyer with drew his application. you want to share thoughts. everything on the agenda today is related prop c, san francisco voters supported this past election. it was a charter amendment to impart establish a home else oversight commissiontory see hospitallessness and supportive housing and audits of service for people sprngs homelessness by the city career am i want to express gratitude to supervisor safai for his lerredship not just for his tireless work to engage with stake hold and get the amendment on the bell on the but the work this follow exclude we are continuing today to dot work of impelement thanksgiving commission. today we will make initial decisions about those seek to serve on this commission and we will hear from highly qualified candidates we can pick 3 i hope that those who are not selected will continue to pursue public service roleos other hsh oversight bodies or in other ways. woe have talent here that will be a shame to not empower people's time and talent to serve our city. mr. clerk. call item one >> item one an ordinance amending the code it provide that members of the homelessness committee and refuse rate board are eligible for health insurance through the health system. requested the item referred out as a committee report. >> thank you. aside from the appointments i mention third degree is a piece of work to implement pop c. i want to grad tude to supervisor safai and president supervisor peskin. sprier safai, the floor is yours. >> thank you, chair. the item before us is straightforward and routine i know president supervisor peskin is here to ask for a slight amendment to what i will be proposing and which i'm fine watch i wanted to take a moment to acknowledge 2 bodies that will improve delivery of basic service. we know about the corruption and challenges in our refuse rate setting process this has taken place a number of years. i want to thank president supervisor peskin for his leadership on working on this issue and addressing it head on. the voter in john of 22 june of 2022, reformed the refuse rate board to include the officials but rate payer representative appointed by the may. the voters approved prospect c the homeless account at now measure. i said this a lot in the past t. is essential we have independent oversight and audits of departments this spend more than 700 million dollars. and don't always get the result this is we expect. or the voters and citizens of san francisco expect. major's nominees is confirmed and the board appointees will spend hours reviewing information making public policy and decision this is affect the entire side. volunteer commissioners on charter boards get the opportunity to join our city health service system and this measure provide this is in 2 instance. after public comment i ask for support but i than president supervisor peskin is asking for somebody slightly different for the rate board. if that is okay, mr. chair. >> president supervisor peskin. >> thank you, chair dorse and he supervisor safai. chair dorsey, almost everybody on this agenda had to do with the proposition that supervisor safai spearheaded that was on our last ballot except for this little nugget on page 3. line 6. refuse rate board the subject of a different ballot measure. prop f of june of 2022. rejig erred and changed the powers of the refuse rate board. nought first time in 90 years under gooing a different process as related to the residential and commercial refuse rates. and -- the refuse rate board empowder under prop f consists of 3 individuals, 2 of them city officers. one being the general manager of the public utility's commission. the other the city add administrator. the third, used to be a city official. name low the controller who is now staffed to the refuse rate board. and has been replaced with a rate payer representative yet to be designated but will come before this mittee hopeful low next month in april. and in the interest of doing what prop f was designed to do, which is to look out for the san francisco rate payer. i hear by request that we not make this individual eligible for health insurance coverage in the interest of san francisco ratepayers and would request that the refuse rate board be taken out of the scheme where in this one individual receive health benefits from the city and county of san francisco. >> we had conversation there was a slight change of heart otherwise we would have not put this forward i'm fine with making the motion to remove that. and we have done that. we did it with ocii as well did not provide that i make a motion. >> nathat would come with the corresponding changes in the long title at line 4 so the refuse rate board. the code provide that member of the homeless oversight commission are eligible and refuse rate board come out of this line. i don't believe that madam department city attorney other than those 2 changes, had you have never seen before, i'm sure are cranky about. well are no other things that need to change other than you would have to make the corresponding change in the legislative digest under amendments to currently luboy removing the words, and the refuse rate board. >>an pierson, that's right those other only accomplices amendments would need to be made. >> thanks. >> thank you, mr. chair >> peculiar president peskin and supervisor safai. can we take public comment. why members who wish to speak and joining person line up to speak. for those listening remote dial 415-655-0001, access code: 2489 884 3434 ## once connected press star 3 to enter the speaker line. those in the queue continue to wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted then begin your comments. no parties for public comment, we can move to our remeet line we have 2 callers in line. >> [inaudible] caller we are ready. 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[multiple people talking] >> okay. sounded like they were not aware. >> can we move to the next caller? >> can you hear me now? >> please, proceed. >> you can hear me okay. >> we can hear you, proceed. >> daved pilpel, good morning. on item one i support this ordinance, but i think upon given the discussion left couple of weeks about remote public comment and other conversations that i believe have occurred, i think we should have fewer decision making boards and commissions in the city perhaps slightly fewer advisary bodies and consideration of ways to encourage application and participation on the various bodies with increased compensation or technology and other types of assistance. health benefits are nice but only those with time, money or an agenda now serve on the bodies. and not the broad diversity of the city and we should make efforts to change that. plus, we all upon spend too much time in way too many meetings. i hope upon dollar is a discussion on ways to increase the diversity of members serves on various boards and commissions in the staechl thank you. >> thank you. we gallon back and seat other person is on the line for us. >> [speak another language]. does not seem that person they are having public comment than was our last public commenter. >> grit. >> thank you, public comment on this item is closed. >> and supervisor safai like to make the motion. >> first i like to make a motion to sept amendments as proposed. and read in the record by president peskin >> on the motion to amend. vice chair walton. >> aye. >> member safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> now like to make a motion to sends the item to the full board with positive recommendation as amended. as a committee report. >> yes. the motion is to recommend as amended as a committee report. vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. the motion passes without objection. >> thank you, mr. young on a mums vote item one goes to the full board as a report with positive recommendation. items 2-4 together. >> item 2 a motion approving or rejecting the major's nomination for sharkey laguana to homeless oversight commission. item low approving or rejecting appointment of jonathan butt lore to the homeless oversight commission. and item 4 a marrow motion approving/rejecting the mayor's nomination for katie al bright to the homelessness oversight commission. >> great. thank you, mr. clerk, supervisor safai. >> thank you. when we began drafting prop c we began with the previous version from matt hene. we looked at that as a baseline for the conversation. there were conversations about how an upon department that started out at 100 million dollars had grown to over 700 million dollars. people looking for accountability and oversight and direction. that would be given. i think it was pretty obvious and has been obvious that with the amount of resources and money this has been put in this department. people believe and the general public feels that things have not gotten better. but got worse. spurred the conversation around how we bring more ash count at and oversight to the department. we worked with this board, worked with our colleagues. did not feel that the previous version was the right direction because i felt in that ultimately, this is a strong mayor city. buck needs to stop with the mayor's office. ultmitt low. we shift today become to a 4 majority mayoral commission. that is the right way to go. and my clothes agree. we had supervisors preston, supervisor dorsey to supervisor walton. it was unanimous supportful ultimately and butt that on the ballot. at the time the mayor's office was neutral but took input from the mayor's office. one thing they talked about having a seat that spoke to the desires, needs, wants and feelings of small business owners or neighborhood associations. and so that is how we came to that compromise. we felt as 3 approximate still believe that's why we are here today; that board confirmation is important part of the process. the board will decide on not just the mayor's seats but the board confirmed seats. we took the campaign to the seriously. we took it as an opportunity to talk to voters and spread information and get feed badge unfortunately during this time the mayor decided to vigorous low oppose the position and the measure was opposed by 67% of san francisco. more than unanimous. and a very strong mandate for this oversight accountability and good government as it pertains to the commission. we have been impressed by the number of applications we receive. i spoken to personal low and met with every one of the applicants except one. wee were not able to connect, unfortunately. and one person did speak to one of my staff. but i met with every applicant on the mayor's side and on the board side. and so we encouraged them if than i are not chosen for this commission today there are seats on the city our home and seats in the local home will coordinating board and opportunity to engage with us today. and we have a diversity of backgrounds and educational experience, work experience and lived experiences. i think all of that says a lot about the desire to make change in this for this tommic in helping unhoused in our city. i want to make sure who we appoint meet the requirements of the charter and my colleagues feel the same. we'll ask each person to come forward to talk about how they are qualityified for this seat that they would like to assume and why a want to serve on this commission. those other 2 guiding themes of the questions we asked today. i don't know if you have anything tolls say, mr. chair or -- supervisor walton if not we will proceed in order on the agenda. >> thank you, i wanted to say thank you to the mayoral appointees for being here and i like to go in order of the agenda and ask each to come and up speak briefly to qualifications and interests. before sitting down to take questions if my colleagues or i have them. so after that,il invite next person of the after all 3 is spoken we go to public comment. we start with mr. laguana. the floored is yours. thank you. chair dorse. supervisor safai, a little nervous. [laughter] supervisor walton. and chair dorse commendsow pronouncing my last name correctly. thank you all for considering my appointment. and -- it is truly an honor to be here. and address a question my qualifications for this seat. this seat is for somebody who experienced homelessness. i was a foster kid -- and i was raised by 2 dads. i left home at 17. i'm a high school graduate. i had a very loving home. i'm still very close to them. but like a lot of foster kids i did not feel comfortable asking for help after i left home. i followed a girl out to california. i thought things were going to work out. they did not. i kroied all night and i hitched a ride to san francisco. i had 50 dollars in cash. and i guitar. i -- played guitar on the streets and hoped to make enough money to get ahead. turns out this is in the a great way to make money. i slept in buena vista park and struggled to find a way to get that first step up. ultimately somebody else on the street told me you should apply for ga. i wait in the line for hours. got a ga check special used that to make the payment for one week of rent at the civic center hotel on 12 and market. i moved in the hotel, eventual low got a job there as a night clerk. that job was paid more than the job i had selling time life books and over the phone paid 5 dollars an hour. i had about 7 dollars a day give or take. on which to pay for everything else. i would sometimes not get enough hours or i would be sick or harf approximate not have enough money i would sell mrs. ma at haight and stanion. and really -- if somebody without a college degree i did in the know how to get out of this cul-de-sac i was trapped inform i was there for many years. and worked there for 5 years. so -- while working there i saw a lot of in the sro's. one of my jobs was to repair telephones we had a switch board system if you wanted make a call out from your room you called to the operator with me. hopefuly thea the desk and i would patch you in outside the line. likewise if a call came in the phones attracted roaches member this h it clean the dead roaches out of phone approximate repair the wiring. you test the phone and get electricity this was fun. that was -- ham the shaping and condition of this hotel. i then and there is an incredible success story for our city now i'm excited see had it turned into. this was my experience and of course there were many residents there who had a variety of mental health issues, substance abuse issues and you saw people go through various stages, one girl a high school i knew from high school. the last time she was wheeled out on i gurney. i got reash quainted with her 2 years ago. cleaned up. owns a business. show is doing great and has a husband. and it is just -- it makes me hopeful because i have seen people achieve recovery in their lives and continue is public and i continue is something we have to work harder to achieve. so the second question is why do i want to do this. i love this of city. deeply. and feel like i owe a lot. public service star in the 2009 my leg stopped working. i -- became harder to lift up my legs. went to a bunch of doctors and turns out i had a tumor. and it was wiping out the nerve in my body. starting at my legs where most of the nerves are. and the diagnose was tough the dollar said it was terminal and i had a year to live i had a 2 year sxoeld 5 year old boys. i wanted make that 2 years. i did research and worked the problem and i concluded i had a river disease. potential 3 treatable and the doctors were skeptical we have seen one or 2 case in the 30 years i have been here. may be i'm number 3. got myself to the will clinic at this time i needed a walker. i walked 5-10 minutes before i needed to rest. and -- i got the right treatment and 13 years later i'm here in front of you today. 2 things for me came out of that experience. one is when you have a tough problem homeless or business is collapsed or whether you got a terminal diagnose you gotta break it into small pieces and attack each piece and think about it in a call and measured way and look for every little opportunity you can. and i think this problem in particular that bedevilled our city for over 30 yers the only way we will make any progress that we have to look for every upon centimeter of opportunity and seize it that is had progress will look like. slow and incremental. you will get there the second thing as i reflected on my life i realized the money i had was happiest was spent helping others. time i was -- most satisfied with having spent was in service to other people. and so i decided i was going to with what time i had left spend more time helping other people. and that is why i signed myself up for the small business commission. my interview was [inaudible] he said you want to be on the commission. which one i said give me the shiftiest one is. we got small business commission. i said, cool. i did in the know much about small business even though i own a small buildings. tried to attack each problem and locked for opportunity where i found them. last thing i will say my approach another upon at beaut is i learned how to code and wrote the software that runs my business. builted our financial, a counselling and hr systems and managed agree it to an upon decent sized business. we are at a level we have to get audited, required by the lenders. i have experience with audits and experience with phenotypes i created more dash boards i can remember. i know they are somebodying alegality of people are interested in whereby to this issue. i have technical expertise. the last thing, my approach to my previous role on small business commission the same i have to this commission. come ch i i want everyone of you to succeed. i'm here to help make this city better. and even if it means making a little bit better. that's had i want to do. and i know sometimes that entail s. not for everybody to fail. disfunctions are rot in the trauma and anxiety, loneliness and shame. and the anecdotes are community forgiveness and generosity. that is the spirit i will be approaching this position. if approved by the board of supervisors, which i hope will happen. thank you. >> thank you mr. laguana i appreciate the moving words. seeing no comments or -- supervisor walton. thank you, so much for stepping up and wanting to serve. and the question i want top ask i will ask every candidate. you don't have the benefit of hearing the question before but everybody else does. i will ask the same question to everybody. and the real purpose for my sustained point of this commission is irrelevant accountability for the d. correct. you know that the black population is disproportionately represent in the the homeless population in san francisco. district 10 we have the highest number of folks live nothing vehicles. well is a sense of the city the department of homelessness and supportive housing neglecting the southeast sector and in the caring about the issues this exist. my question is knowing the numbers in terms of people living in vehicles and the disproportionate represent know centation of black folks in the homeless system. homelessness has gone down in district 10 a lot of residents feel. what can the commission do to hold the department accountable to addressing the concerns in the areas to come up with improved out come. we know hacording to the last point time count 38% of the people surveyed were after can american. we know that as a population of san francisco african americans institute 6% this is roughly plus/minus 6 and a half, 6 and i quarter % multiplied over represented. so clearly, we need to invest resources and making sure this we address just as a -- fundamental position of justice and equity we have to do manage that will make material difference in this. i think the challenges are -- there are a multitude of factors this lead for member to become homeless. lost a job. a health event. kicked out of their home. mental health issues and substance abuse,. one of the top line problem in talking about this, there is no silver bullet. you can't say that one thing is going to solve all of the problems. i think this as you the way to address had is in each and every address to each and every one of the factors. you have to keep in mind this there is a population in san francisco that is wild low over represented. in the population of homeless people we have. and so if we want it address that open representation we have to have that in the forefront of our minds. at each and upper turn and each policy proposal and each contract that come before us. and we have to look at it through that lens. we talked in city hall about looking at things through an equity lens on small business commission we said you have to do it. on every agenda item has to be i consideration. has to be something we talk about. i'm not as much of an expert as the other appointees here in the space i can't honestly give you a specific policy proposal that will make a huge dramatic difference but hai can tell you is this when i was on the small business commission anybody this was on that commission will tell you we have to focus on d6 and on d10. we have to focus on district number excelsior i was more worry body bayview and the excelsior because they threat left behind in mall business when can we do to get more aid and resources there? how do we make surety employee retention tax credit is getting out to that community? the other upon community is well resourced that community it is not. so allir can tell you is that it is top of minds for me. it is something i pay attention to and somethingil whether or not i'm on this commission or not. it is important to me. it is where many of my friends be and a community i care dope low about. >> thank you. >> thank you. supervisor safai yoochl thank you. similar to supervisor walton i will ask similar questions to peopleful i would say because we have a language agenda try to truncate what you are saying. >> and again not a criticism. we had good conversations i want to highlight that when we spoke i was impressed by how data has helped you in the not only in your personal endeavour for your own personal -- health issue but in your small business. and -- all the work that you have done on the small business commission. one thing they believe that will help in the account at and oversight of this department is how we electric at data. that does in the mean take away the human element knowing we are dealing with live human beings experiencing the most traumatic things anyone could responsibles. when i think of this department and i think of 800 units vacant. in supportive housing. when i think of we only do a point in time count every 2 years. when i think of how many of the things you talk to one provider they mitake 2 weeks after a refer feral from the coordinated entry system it house someone and talk to another provider and how the department is measuring and over seeing the provider may take 4-5 montes to house somebody. that's what i money and i say dataasm and so for me it is important you electric at things through that lens. i want to give you a moment to talk about data driven solutions >> thank you, supervisor. so there are 2 things we to keep in minds at the same time of one that is noted does not improve. there are inclination to measure as much as we can. of but the other thing we need to remember there is more to measure then and there we can injest in our brains. so, if is critical what we concentrate resources on measuring the right things. and in some case we may be measuring too much am collecting too much data and getting overwhelmed. and other can ises we are not collecting the one baptist data that really makes a difference in out come i know we all care about. when i think about the department and the service providers there is a constellation of data can be overwhelming and heard to understand when the rep with the numbers is. when i run my business after 20 years, i collect all data at the start. more things then and there you could imagine than i could imagine. at this point i reduced it dun to 2 data points i know the revenue per unit and machine no the ash counts i will tell you how the business is doing. we have to simplify and focus on the data points that actually matter. and socialize that among policy makers so we are all thinking and measuring the same thing and looking at the same things. certainly when we think about coordinatedent row months is unacceptable. it is unacceptable. especially when will there are vacancies it should be hours. so -- that's clearly something this i think the commission should folk nus on quickly. i think that the data side is something that should be a core focus of the commission and perhaps forming i data committee specific low to figure out how to injest that data and turn it to something people can understand. >> thank you. thank you are mr. laguana. now i have no questions but sit down and i will follow up with doctor butler >> good morning. the chair dorsey and vice chair walton and supervisor safai. the mayor has nominated me for seat 2 position of the committee and the commission, rather. and i feel that i questions of law foil for this role for the number of reasons. first i serve as the executive director for the san francisco african-american faith based cord nigz and board member for san franciscoin are faith council and first voip for the national association for the advancement of colored people of san francisco and the health committee chair. all of these public service roles i have provided service it homeless people that experience homeless whether feeding through the coalition since the pandemic 2016, prior to the pandemic. we have been feeding seniors and importance. experienced homelessness and the san francisco inner faith council has nom natd mow to lead the homelessness initiatives and speaking with the director and others to see way in which the faith community can be a part of the solution. and as an advocate benefitted nacp spot on the front lines in addressing for people that experience homelessness. roles qualify me to serve. in addition to this i am a researcher. a medical sociologist in community medicine at ucsl. life's work to study social health and how they impact us. and one of those areas [inaudible] is house and homeless knowledge. i understand the research, data hadrives the detriments of health. long-term and one of those detriments are housing. and in addition to that, i'm qualified because of the board of spierzs in 2018, voted mow to be on the committee for the [inaudible]. and as a part of that i served as the chair for the did thea and [inaudible]. committee. which was initiated to bring scholars and researchers and scientists together it make sure when we recommended to the marinade be data driven. i have experience in that and understanding importance of that. i also serve on the community input committee. not just the data in numbers but collecting qualitative dataasm people's lived experience, people's passion about want to address the health issues in the community. and so i listened to men community members around what is needed ensure ha -- that -- especially black and brown communities are not son assuming sugar drinks. you may know there has been an article out in a report that suggests that the consumption of sugar drinks dropped thirty-four percent and i'm excited because there hen a drop comper seed to san hose whoa does not have this. they don't have this initiative. it dropped moong amongst black and brown individuals. i'm excited have served on this committee and served as the cochair as well. i understand what is means to start with no history. it was [inaudible] committee. we took risks, chances but we have levels of success i think we should be proud of as san franciscans. i think all of those areas questions of law foil me for this role. reason why i want to be in this position is because i'm a black man. and because there are only 4% less than 4% we are not including those families that live together. 4% of population is black. 40% are homeless. and i think that you know -- that is something i wake up every morning trying to figure out hai can do. when role i can play to ensure that black folks in the city can be whole. and have the best of opportunity to live that holistic life. so e i ask this you would consider mow for this nomination. i gave you my qualifications and life's work of committing myself to the betterment of all san franciscans but especially those are the margins which are african-americans in the city >> thank you doctor butler and your wellingness to serve. supervisor walton >>. thank you you touched on this disproportionality of black folks that are homeless in san francisco upon, so same question. in terms of serving on this commission, what do you think the commission can do to hold the department accountant to address these concern specials disparities? >> thank you, supervisor walton. one thing they have been advocating for is allow father communities to a part of solution n. black community the faith community is the bed rock of the black community. as director for the african-american faith based cod aligz most churches are in the bivow. we have been trying it figure out ways we can play a part of the solution and leading some program this is should be implemented. i think having an approach if there are from our % of blacks experiencing homelessness there should be more xhoo community and faith based organizations that lead some of this work. the other thing is, those program this is dress this issue if they are not performing well, i think the data and evidence will show this. and that's where i can provide my expertise to make sure we evaluate the programs serving the community to make sure they are effective. if not then find way so we can as we all want to decrease this number especially in d 10. thank you, chair. you started to address asked the similar question. i wanted ask you to take a step back and think about for a moment of the population that are homeless in san francisco ton that 38-40% african-american that to me, and we say this but it is shocking. shocking to think that with a small population in our city, 4 or 5% you noted. to think that then threat-40% of homeless population is african-american. that is truly shocking you talk about bringing in the faith community and the bed rock of the african-american communityism absolutely agree with that step. but and then you started to talk about the data how do you think then data you know knowing that point, knowing that there has been something missing but millions of dollars have been given out to dress this issue and we have the striking, shocking statistic how can we adjust and better serve that population. the whole population but this in particular you highlighted the drop in consumption of sugar beverages. phenomenonal. how can we make a similar impact i'm not asking to you wave a magic wand. i'm curious on the data in that point it feeds in the 2 questions. >> certainly, i think first, be truthful about the dataasm although we know this threat-40% of san franciscans are homeless, that does not accounts for those families that are multiple families living in the same household. that number actually is not the trough number. if you think about it. the only way to then and there is to be in the community, understanding the different communities. per of that data we talk about and in line with the work this i do is understanding the quality of that data. and this is where the community come in. and one of the ways this we were able to successfully reduce the initial sugar drinks in this city is because we listened to the community. and listened and coupled that with the data and developed interventions that actually spoke to one that needed they other exerts in their community. that's how we were able to succeed. listen and also you know that will inform the numbers of when we know. >> thank you. and i will say, i have been impress exclude help to have supported you in the work you did proposal and doing to this date and the impact you had on communities health and i think that will be informative for your work on this upcoming commission. thank you for your wellingness to serve. >> thank you, doctor . and next up can we have if ms. albright? >> good morning. chair dorsey. vice chair walton. supervisor safai. i'm honored to be here today regarding my nomination to serve the homeless oversight commission inch look forward to serving on this commission to advance the intent of san francisco voters to provide oversight accountability and meaningful opportunity for public engagement and education regarding the work this the department homelessness and supportive housing. i have devoted my career to partnering with others to improve the health and well being of children, families and communities. for the past 16 years i served a ceo of safe and soundism stepped, way from this role a few weeks ago to serve as senior advisor and focus state wide child welfare and family well being reform. previous to safe and sound, i served a department city attorney representing the city and county as well as the san francisco unified school district on matters of civil rights, institutional and municipal law, labor and employment and public safetyism also served on san francisco board of appeals and juvenile probation commission. specific to seat 3, i have expert ease in mental health services with focus onlieding macro level policy service delivery systems and management. revenue mackization and community provider networks. safe and sound served san francisco's community for 50 years. with a mission to prevent and mitigate the impact of child abuse, neglect and trauma. we do this by strengthening families, building communities and advancing heeling, justice and equity. our are behavioral hasn't service include kournsing 24/7 line i have been a trained volunteer for 7 years. individual and peer support, case management. concrete services and linkages to housing, job accomplices and substance use treatment. under my leadership safe and sound named one of 9 best practice in primary child abuse prevention inure country because of outcome based programming, education and policy veteransment. the organization launched local and state initiatives that have improved family out come contribute to a 67% reduction in child abuse and 61% reduction innent res to foster care in our county. over a 15 year period. from this work, i have garnered a deep respect for the mental health providers in our city and luck tow work amongst the best. relationships with department of public comment for behavioral health services and collaborator supporting the department on rhyme improve the work. i developed a positive track record for implementing multifaceted solution to acute and long-term complex matters. i'm effective in cocreating public/private partnerships making strategic data driven decisions. anding nonprofit fund development and financing. i want top serve on this commission for 2 reasons. first i care deeply about san francisco and ensure social justice for our community members. far too many children and families are home and wills individuals living with significant physical and health childrens live nothing vulnerable s. with a dispropotionate impact on black, indigenous and people of color. this is all too often because of structural and systemic racism. second, i believe that homelessness is solvable. we can in our coming together mobilize to make needed shifts and effective change. san francisco has taken on tough issues before and we can do it now. i want to be part of that change. for all of these reasons i believe that i am well qualified serve on the homeless oversight commission and appreciate your full consideration. i'm confident that together we can implement solutions to help people end homelessness and how we as a city approach one of the most challenging and complex issues of our time thank you. thank you ms. albright. i want to express my appreciation to you and value your insights in substance abuse disorders. obviously we have a bit of a crossover during the city attorney's office. a part of my career i appreciate your willingness to serve. vice chair walton yoochl thank you chair dorse and he thank you ms. albright for being electric to serve. what do you think the role of a commissioner can do to make surety department is accountal to address the disparities that is [inaudible]. >> vice chair walton thank you, it it is the same issues that we as you know, experiencing in child welfare. significant disproportionality. we have to understand as a community and implement tools of prevention and focusing early on. specific to your question around accountability. i think there are opportunity for legislative policy and practice changes. including as mention by form are candidate really listen to voice of those of livid experiences and the communities,en sense urg voices of those in the black and african-american community that are so deeply impacted. i think that we can think about data in an upon transformative and transparent way. and think about our role as the commission in ensuring that data is communicated to the public. i believe there are opportunity for equity checks around funds and fund availability and bias train for example ourselves and everyone in the system. and finely i think that having a clear vision around account at always as our primary goal will be essential to the work of the commission. >> thank you. >> thank you. supervisor safai. >> thank you mr. chair. thank you ms. albright for willingness to serve. and also enjoyed the conversation we had to talk about the experiences and work this you have doneful one thick i wanted to highlight arch listen to you speak and something than i think we spoke about in the other folks than i interviewed spoke about is a lot of time this is department and this is one of the charges we are asking to you be a part of. might have ideas this could approximate terrible low be positive. in terms of impact they have. butt implementation falls short. when i'm referring to is, an example would be we did a pilot of -- safe park nothing my district. we did this for a year and a half. the department was earnest after -- prodding from my office for 2 years to do this billed on an explosion of people live nothing vehicles. we got this census and finally showed and the points in time count this it was the largest increases in the entire city. this this is something -- this was a few years ago. so rather than just making it happen over night. we asked them to slow down. put a grouch people together from the community. we listened to the community. we got consensus. we hosted a community meeting. upon and in this meeting i think more people participated in any than i have been a part of and over 2 decades. in the excelsior and outer mission a thousand participates. we asked controltory audit that in the end. it was well received with work with supervisor walton we ruled that out and expanded the bayview. they did not have electricity they never impelemented in the site or expand to capacity and it hen a lot of frustration, i know and i know supervisor walton has been involved in trying to make that work. falls on the department to deliver and if we have ideas we have examples and we have the data and have policies we have -- things we can expand, the charge of commission ensure oversight and implementation of the ideas can you talk about this in your experience. over seeing implementation and, countability for this policy. why thank you very much. supervisor for that question. and -- i would say a couple components around that -- and i'm grateful this the community was listened to. and how do we think as we go to scale on projects that we condition to set collective expectations. and this we measure against those expectations. i think this it is important as we think about complex problem this is need solutions we ensure we are bringing all departments in the conversation. hsh. d. public work in this instance as well as the department of public health and others. we all need in our community to be on the same page to understand this is the number one priority for everyone and we have to move together. i would recommend as we continue to learn from both successes and we learn from opportunity for betterment going forward. we develop shared agreements. shared expectations and shared measurements and go back and review the measurements. this is the upon opportunity for the future with this commission. i wanted to recognize we are work nothing a trauma impacted system. those who we are helping our experiencing trauma and the system within which we are working. therefore thshg it is important that we increase transparency, communication, compassion and understanding as we go through it together. thank you. >> thank you very much. seeing no further questions from my colleagues mr. clerk can we open up items 2, 3 and 4 to public comment. >> y member of the public who wish to peek on items 2, 3 our 4 and joining person line up at this time. listening remote call 415-655-0001, access code: 2489 884 3434 ##. for those in the queue wait until the system credits you have been unmuted that is your queue to begin comments. first in person speaker. good morning board and candidates here this morning. i'm del semore for the last 7 years i have been chair of the local homeless coordinating board the reason why this meet suggest important to me my boil have to work the candidates i'm not here to endorse anyone they all look great. i want you to ensure in your selection process you will do in a few minutes consider background in this field. this is very important. we talked about oversight this morning. oversight you know your budget committee is a primary oversight of this department. the city controller primary oversight of the department where we electric oversight at hsh the relationship with the provide and ares the department of the i want you to consider background when they do for us. keep the politics out. don't matter who you know on the second floor it matters you know on the street. do you know hi robe and sheila. have you been working with them. this job to know on the local coordinating board i spent felony to 20 hours a week related my position you need to be ready for that. if you are not willing to come out go to the shelter and providers talk to people. go to meetings and sacramento and washington men this may not be for you this . ain't nothing to have a business card in the city this is people's lives. we are dying on the streets and starving and freezing on the streets and had statute position to keep that as your number one consideration. as you go through the process. >> on behalf university i'm pleaseed support nomination of this outstanding member of our faculty doctor butler. to the homeless oversight commission. doctor butler shares his credentials at d. family and community medicine as well as our centers for the staffed adversity and cardiovascular disease and a leader on black health initiative we're an academic membership center known for research and education. doctor butt leer has thez missions and his commitment and activism in the community. holdses lerredship role in the naacp the faith based coalition and other programs and a master's. divinity focussed on relation and health and minster at third baptist churc during covid-19 doctor butler was a member that we asked to film a public service have to be a trusted voice to respect people's concerns about safety. vaccine and assured them off safety. doctor butler's work access to our faculty in district 6 at the journey outstanding candidate and in full support of the university. we urge your support for his appointment to the commission. thank you. >> good morning, i'm jordan pronounce she, her, they, them. i voted no on this bull-commission as a tenant worked with the reporters on the chronicles and lead i major campaign to improve the lives of fellow tenability and served on an advisory commission i don't think having a mirj mayor commission will bring f -- oversight i will not speak against them but you w for us. current and currently homeless people who are experiencing the footwork-up policy decisions of the steel you are not the major's f-puppets. brawl whores tell you what you need hear about stele funded trespass house rather than what you want to f-hear. and f-the contract they are f-homo phobic and sexist. i'm a disabled person who has nothing to lose. you know that no matter what happens today with this item you will all hear my thoughts about hsh prescriptions at this commission. by the f-sh-language. i yield my time. f-you. >>y wool move to remote public comment we have 2 parties in line. supervisors, i'm francisco decosta. we cannot address the homelessness issues unless we do a need's assessment. if you look at public housing all over san francisco, department of defense. who thes going on in our neighborhoods and public housing. is the attorneys over to -- bridge developers. and there are supervisors who are hand approximate glove with mercy housing. pretending to help the homelessness but [inaudible]. previous speaker may have used some foul language but actually he is being a homeless person he realliness how y'all treat them. look at this. i'm addressing the board of supervisors and 2 supervisors are having a talk among themselves. this tells you about our supervisors. our supervisors talk the talk and do not walk the walk. so -- we will not be able to solve the homelessness problem unless we have people who really want to help u even those the people wanted something to happen with prospect c we had the mayor herself got other way. and we have some supervisors right now there sitting down who are hands and glove with the developers. not for the poor people. i would say in order to help the african-american community, we need real leader help. no other way shorter way and got way >> can we have our next caller, please. david pilpel. i am impressed with the mayor's 3 appointise today and i support their appointment. i think they will serve our city limp i think you will have a more difficult time with the board appointments given the number and i will leave that to you. >> i support the 3 mayors nominees today. thank you for listening. >> thank you. can we have our next caller. >> good morning. i'm one it make [inaudible]. the [inaudible] board of supervisor's [inaudible] i heard talk about the mayor's candidates. hello. this is public comment and you can make your comment regarding the appointments however this is in the a time for question and answers. >> correct. good. yes thank you very much. good morning i'm francisco community member also work for the approximate [inaudible] of the leather street community services and part of the latina [inaudible] need's assessment mittee. it important for us to name tracie mixon and ja neta johnson. i he to interrupt we are not on this item yet. we are >> if you don't mind wit to item 6 we'll be happy to accept your comment at that time. okay. double checking that was our last public comment on the mayor's nomination for appointment. >> thank you, public comment on 2, 3 and 4 is closed. i will echo the sentiments from one of the callers that i think this these are impressive folk who is are endeavour to serve and i would like to move to amend the motion to strike reject from each motion and send these to the full board with positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk? yes. on the motion to delete, reject and recommend the matter with for approval for 2, 3 and 4. vice chair walton. >> aye. >> supervisor safai. >> aye. >> chair dorsey. >> aye. >> the motion to amend and recommend is adopted without objection. >> thank you. on a unanimous vote items 2-4 go to the full board with positive recommendation. >> mr. clerkil ask we call item in consideration of time call 6. >> yes. item 6 hearing occur appointing a member and 2 members to the homelessness oversight commission. regarding the seats seat 5 shall be held boy a person who experienced homeless knows. seat 6 by a person with significant experience providing services to or engage nothing advocacy on behalf importance experiencing homelessness. seat 7 a person with experience working with homeless families, children special or homeless youth. >> thank you. mr. clerk. i know we are excited hear from all applicants this will be the hard part my office had the opportunity to meet with whoefrn applyd and i'm impressed with all of the applications. i think any of you are would be valuable additions to the commission. we are of course with tasked with choosing only 3 in many ways our pool is an embarrass am of riches to use an over usedityium but i want to encourage those not selected to this commission to consider serving on our department's other bodies or other commission or way this is our city affords opportunity to serve. one other point about the job as policy makers are tasked do is it is in the necessarily about you. in fact i think general low the less personal low one takes things the better off you will be in public life am per of our decision making responsibilities is to evaluate individual conditionaledidates. and another responsibility is it stand back and look at the entirety of the commission to which we are making appointments and ask ourselves as city leaders whether or not the commission reflects the city's diversity or issues the commission will focus on during its tenure. so i hope there are no hard feelings know your willingness to serve is appreciated and this is trough from mow approximate my clothes. the grounds rowels for the hearing today. we will hear from everyone who aployed starting with seat 5, 6 then 7 if you aplayed for more we ask to you spoke for the lowest number which they applied. il call individualsum come up and speak for 2 minutes. on your qualifications for this seat or seats if you are seek multiple. to which you applyd and interest in serving on the commission as supervisor safai discuss in the the left couple items. we may have questions following your statements. stay through until you are sure we have concluded then i will call the next personal witness we hear from everyone we go to public comment and the clerk will give you instructions and after we will discuss and vote on whom we recommend assuming we do and we will adjourn. with that, let's start with seat 5. i'd like to ask my understanding that i was just furthermored that janetta johnson is with druing and like to ask to have come up joaquin gerrero. >> before we begin the comment i like to ask anybody join happening via microsoft teams turn off your camera and mute you're microphone until we call on you to speak >> good morning, supervisors i'm joaquin gerrero. i was recommended apply for seats 5 and 6 to bring transleadership to the homelessness system. born in mexico and raised in canada working with the homelessness system in the downtown east side neighborhood that is compared to the tenderloin. like many transleaders came here to access trans services and where i could be myself and experience safetyism responsiblesed homeless ness and 2020 secured housing in the peek of the pandemic worked at an hsh funded program upon providing serves to homeless in the bayview. reversing over dozes. lost a lot of cowork and staff number members to suicide and over dose who were african-american and well tino. the following year i became the director of our transhome sf. and over saw 15 room transitional homes in the commission and subsidy program this now providing provides housing and stabilization to many unhoused san franciscans. i then lead the opening of the first transupon center novembergation center. the mayor's plan toenldz trans homelessness and roach zero for the trans population in 5 years. and i work as a certified mediator for bar association providing conflict resolution to landlords and tenabilities i serve on the monitoring committee. and i served on office of transinitiative committee. i'm here i feel a sense of duty as a transgender person. as our community is under attack and well it is a crisis, aims to e readicate our existence. making transpeople, renoouj refugee in their own country and billsod data shown the population of unhoused transgender people in san francisco is increasing. having transrep centation on the commission is critical to how the city will responded to the crisis. and i will stop there and i would like to answer your questions as far as dressing racial equity and he for the black community the way i came in my position at the home was there were series racial equity issues in the services provided buzz there are so men more well tino people this need the service black trans were not access being service we had to pause and recreate mou's and change policies. sometimes the term bipoc is in the enough. you have to go and do out reach as black indigenous people were traumatic typed by the system they no longerment to access services and mr. laguana stated the answer is simplify. focus too much on data credited press that make it longer for people to be housed once they enter the system. when i worked the shelters it was clear there were people live nothing a 30-day temporary shelter program for over 2 years. is she in the providers the bureaucratic system this slows everything down this is the thing i learned about the one system. and -- i want to talk about data as well. i have a mission to aid in the ending of homelessness. i worked on this in veteraning cower and have been able to transfer skills here. so you know won't understand this homelessness is i problem created right nile data point and between 78 and 83 the housing budget sclafrng today it is risen to 60% of had it used to be. during the time mental health facilities slowed down and increased the population by 500 drs the government defunded husband and invest in the prisons. so my answer is to acowboyability we need to invest in front line workers who are african-american, well tino and form upper low incarcerated under paid and over worked. the people are who tells us the solutions. you can go dun to any homeless community mote and timed out this some would rather live on the street than accessing service from the city and peopled rather live in a unit with their own bedroom approximate wit and stay in shelter than in an sro. these are data points that are documented by city and irrelevant not this hard to timed out if you know how to talk to the community. any further questions. >> i appreciate you anticipating my clothe's questions. i would just ask you i know we touchod this i bit. but i would welcome the opportunity for you to talk a bit about the disprosecute potionate rates of violence that. members of transgender upon community and transgender people of color. fits had than i insurance unsheltered homeless knows. where absolutely. we lost a black transstaff worker. it was a huge loss to our community he was a lead and very young and very an angel. that is to common. we understands black transwomen are on attack murdered and miss and does in the make the news. just last week, a building that was subsidized that house the 21 black women burnt down after people were try to disaccomplice them from it. so. this is i stated an initial crisis, right? basically i could be incarcerated for a male impersonator in the state of tennessee. people are refugee in their own country. on transinitiative we met with rachael levine or from the health department of the federal government and coined the term transrefugees. >> thank you very much. you anticipated them all. thank you for coming appropriated. >> all right. >> thank you. >> now hear from robert paul mc closky. >> i believe he is remote. >> the floor is yours. for you with occupancy pliant you can unmute your mic and turn on your camera? we can move on. here i am! here i am! hello >> the floor is yours >> good morning sorry i contfind the mic thing. thank you, chairman dorse and he vice chair walton, supervisor safai and mr. young. i'm honored be here i heard a lot of stuff. i originally decided to do this because i had been homeless. back a few years ago. i was amazed how easy it was to get used to this environment. my qualifications. i have been homeless. when i stop being homeless i bipartisan a councillor and worked with methadone clinics. and i just i saw the homeless problem increasing every year. had amazed me is i was doing investigation the other night and in the 2021-22 the budget for homelessness was 1.1 billion dollars. and -- it still got worse. i could not figure out why. i did not understands why it was getting worse. when hay -- i heard about the homeless commission i decided it would be a good thing because i know like -- i forget her in a minute woman the last mayoral, pinnee she believes this problem can be solved i don't believe it can i continue can be. i know how to solve it. there are plenty of ways that within.within billion dollars can being pent it get rid of this prospect but don't see where it is being done. i made notes last night. one of the ways is increasing the funds to affordable housing. one of the main causes of homelessness in san francisco is electric of affordable housing. therefore i think it is significant foergz of the budget. this being be achieved providing financial incentives for developers it build more and increasing subsidies for low income families to make payments. expand. in addition to building more affordable housing common rental assistance programs to help rent. the funding visible for the program system expanding eligible criteria. to include more people this are gift nothing [inaudible]. 3, increase the access to meth and, diction treatment. many experience homelessness in san francisco have mental health and, diction. i hassard to say all of them. available of treatment is it does in the match the problem. mr. -- we i appreciate it mr. mc closky we are trying to keep folks to around 2 minutes. i want to have been i could ask my clothe fist than i have questions and you expand on q and a. >> supervisor safai. >> mr. mc closky anything tolls add. i appreciate your willingness to serve and thank you for your time now let's hear from ennis johnson. >> hello, supervisors my qualification for seat 5 is that i'm here. i have the livid experience. being out there. i come here to city hall this morning my wife and i she worked for creditive management we have been in housing for 2 decades between my going back and fourth out there i told her no, i would wuk i walked down sixth street andum sixth to mission. i used to live on [inaudible] on sickth street. did in the pay rent i was there 4-5 mont and wuked counsel market throughout other areas. i know homelessness and i know substance use i'm a recovering addict. i locked at willie brun's picture and renovation i remember and they were renovating city hall it was like new jack city i have been in the stele awill who i. got out of the navy in 1979. born and raise in the seattle but been here the last 4 combreers is my children got murdered here in the bay your. so, i hear -- i -- love all the conversations before me and i hear about ending homelessness and one things this is difficult about homeless this we have to deal with the core. lot become homeless for different reasons, diverse, domestic violence and different reasons. 2 of the main are mental health and substance use. and until we deal with mental health and substance use we'll not keep people housed. i was housed. you will not stay house federal youor drugs. i mean i got 18 secondeds. again i work in the the field. i worked for the different agency here in san francisco. i if cross the bay and so i know addiction and worked in other housing here around. and i thank you for your time and i will -- step back. >> thank you very much mr. johnson. vice chair walton >> thank you, chair dorse e. just same question who how would you hold the department accountable. not only in terms the number of black people and experiencing homelessness and also the issues and concerns of the southeast as well. of >> live instead southeast if you lived up on the hill in hunter's pointful i'm familiar with district 10 i lived there. i done a lot of things i'm not proud of there. you know the aids was a tough decade for the black people in bayview. crack came outer when the critic came out people moved or lost houses behind the drugs. you generational having homes left in the 80s. because of the drug addictions. how would i address it. againful i i'm a cat 5 the highest substance use in the state of california i'm left lanesed as a substance use councillor. and i'm going to say the same with the tenderloin. you gotta address the drug issues. the housing agencies have to have substance use counsellors in the hotels. not urban al kemp. not ambassadors. not others. in a trained counsellors in every building that they put up [inaudible]. will put them in other buildings. if we don't put [inaudible]. they know the people. had they use they come to them and say man i have been using and you have member to talk to. before than i are policed. i figure 4-5 months i went one month because i kept using. i was next mont i willpate rent and did in the pay t. and i had no one to talk to. okay. >> thank you supervisor safai. >> thank you, you answered my questions i appreciate you coming in and putting your name forward and bringing the lens of substance abuse it is extremely important part of the conversation. why thank you. >> i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> next up it is masood samereie. >> they are remote. >> good morning honorable supervisors. i'm masood samereie. and i'm the owner of arial property in cast remy 20th year as a mall business. i have been on the board of merchants since 2016 until present time. i was the president of castro merchantses tent then to 21. worked on the castro delores park homelessness project with supervisor mandelman's office since 2019. i was the vice president of the council of district merchnt fist 22 to 21 and the president of district merchants since 22 and was reelect third degree year. i live in the castro and love this city. and -- what i'm concern body is why should we as a civilized society and the most advanced economic and learningest city in the world and deals with current street conscience. i seen the mental and streets and business corridor despite spending millions approximate billions a year and in the getting better it is getting worse. in 2019 hee we had 17 individuals and most in need of health in the castro and the latest support grown to 37. the amounts and resources we spends controlling the issue we are not seeing much impact it is time to look outside the box and time for accountability and fresh blood. these are human beings we are talking about. and we need to bir inspect mind they are all deserved to be treated with respect, thank you for your time. >> thank you, masood. . okay. questions from clothes. >> i was going to say i asked all my questions to mr. sam ear we met and addressed them. thank you for putting your name forward. >> thank you. yoch next up hear approximate tracie mixon. floor is yours. good approximate morning. i'm -- extremely honored to be here because somewhere i never thought i would you can. i have an opportunity like that for to let you know about myself i'm former low homeless mother. daughter is then and i the home i lost was 4 blocks away temperature is bittersweet being here and knowing that the home i lost is just 4 blocks away. i have personal low responsiblesed the challenges of being homeless and this was not my first time i was homeless as a child living with my mom and her sister. i did not realize i was homeless five-14. because i had an officer over my head. as an adult i became homeless because i did not have a lease when you don't have i lease that is how you end up homeless. i coordinatedent row system and q.ed i had an opportunity to talk to hsh i work for coalition on homeless & ness and mote with the department of hsh to talk about the needs that are the homeless population is phase being. i have been a part of that. i have been working coalition for 5 years. hi anning opportunity to be a part of that. also long with that the beginning of the pandemic, i was concerned about families that were living newscast first friendship family shelter. that was the emergency family shelter in san francisco. and i was a part of helping those families get in the oasis to have somewhere better so they did not slope on the floor and worry about getting sick. and with that i'm always on the streets i live in the tenderloin now. i'm on the streets out here talking to folks. finding out had they need and had they need most. at the end of the day, ultimately the homeless folks we are the folks that know if what will make the situations better and what hsh and the providers do to make them easier. so these service are voilths for the stability of everybody. i mentioned i live in spicht house and work in the supportive housing. i have seen the needs of of people that live there and had would make them better high turn over a high turn over in the supportive husbanding and the heller system. you have to pay people had they are worth and have to let them know the services that they need because it is in the easy to this work. you get a hard burn out by doing this work. and they need the services to condition helping the unhoused populations and along with that i was on family advisory council for hsh a group of formerly homeless parents and we would discuss need this is homeless families need and along with that, i was the communities advisory board member for tipping point and discussed the needs of upon sickle -- adults and things than i need as well. also. ive work instead tenderloin for over 30 years acorn were captain for tlcbd. and it like i'm always trying to advocate for them and see what they need if i did not having anyone add are indicating for me i would not be able for anybody else there needs to be more advocacy. >> thank you. upon i got a fan club. i appreciate that and -- this is i normally our when we do is express our fandom we do quiet hundreds but i appreciate the y. for you and i want to say express my graduate tude for the conversation we had and the when we met. vice chair walton. >> thank you chair dorse and he thank you ms. mixon appreciate you stepping up and wanting to servement same question, as commissioner what would you do to hold department of accountability to the disproportionallity this exists. >> for me it is all about have you to get to know the people that are suffering. and -- if i would want am -- let's see how to say this. i got side. ready of myself. when i was going through coordinatedent row it was heard for mow not to talk to somebody this locked like me there needs cultural competency. and also long with this the providers providing the services to homeless than i need to have cultural comp tense and he the be patience. they need to understand what i'm going through and have an explanation on why they are asking me the questions. folks need to get out there needs to be folks from hsh need to go out and talk to the folk catharsis out live nothing the situations because you the not understand had than i are going through unless you are talking to them because i was not street homeless but i was shelter homeless because i was i go out on the streets and talk to people and figure out their needs that gives me an understanding on when i need to do going forward as a commissioner. >> thank you. thank you and supervisor safai. >> thank you. tracie, again. we had a great conversation and appreciate you putting your name forward and sharing your experiences. we talks i bit about data and how data can impact. i want to give you know opportunity to talk about this. >> my experience with the data portion, couple of years ago the coalition on homelessness we did a report, stop the revolveingly door. it was concentrated on what were the reasons and the causes why people becoming homeless and what would have change today so they would not be homeless. i was a researcher and relatable to me because i didn't understand when would have helped me it would had helped mow if i had the money to pay for my apartment and helped mode fihad the money to may be consult i lawyer to fight back against the land lords i had this was new landlord and everything. that is definitely something that would help with trying to figure out. data is important have you to talk to the people if you don't the number don't mean nothing if you don't have a conversation with people. >> thank you. thank you. tracie. >> thank you. >> thank you i appreciate your time. have a good morning. >> thanks y. next up we like to hear from gregory johnson. the floor is yours. >> good morning chair dorsey, vice chair walton and supervisor safai. this is i'm gregory johnson. and a number of years ago right around 77 i experienced homelessness as a students. usc. landed me 2 years in being a part of the world. during this time, i met reverend charles and his wife claire. in west wood, california. we i was a part of the founding people a path people assisting homeless. there are component this is go in this fr. my perspective. all of important data and human element important. end of the day everybody all the component vs to come together you need machine this is -- able to bring people together. and the safety meeting i was reminded that we have all the different department this is we are asking to be on upon the same team. we are all on the same but we have to have i driver that case the [inaudible] mayor was the driver and we looked she was not there to drive the bus. does it mean everything falls apart. pretty much it is easy for this to help. i think that to this i will bring ability to bring people together. data is personal we can't over look this. but we can't over look the fact we need the human element in this. we need hsh to be accountable for the money begin on them. we need providers under contract to be accountable for the services they are to render under the contracts. at the end of the day we need to be able to accounts to the taxpayer every time of money we spent. there is i way to solve this problem. without a doubt. i was asked a couple weeks ago by the san francisco chronicle. i would ask a request only, to house 2,000 people in one year without exceeding the money that is already allocated to deal with this. i was it is only one this came up with an answer. do you want to solve homelessness or give people in housing. there is a difference. i want people housed and stay housed. what's the cost? i don't know. we not know until we have the conversation. >> thank you mr. johnson and vice chair walton. >> thank you for steppingum and wanting to serve. up mentioned accountability how would you hold the department accountable. i don't know that -- not impossible. as a department head have you a responsibility to not just the elected efficients butt community. i believe the pressure put in accomplice by a commission holds them accountable. you talked about the power. this this is in the possible. we have too many people and too many sxies check lists. we can't leave anything. nothing westbound left. nothing was forgotten. somebody did in the do their job. than i need do those job when is they don't other i say this we replace them with people that will dot job. we have to get tough. we can't [inaudible]. do nothing or to do guilty or to say, well, that's okay. that it is not okay it is not okay my cyst and her daughter lived in their suv8 years before she got housing. i walk through the tl's every day. i meet with stake holders and meet with people most people don't have an idea that there are resources that are available that were suspected after covid. they are still there employment people have to know where they g. i want to pink another language to get in the housing buildings where people that don't speak english i with speak their language. i'm 62 years old retire eve exxon mobile. now headed up there it f and management that was no easy job you have to talk to people in every country. i want something better. my mom did. she was a high school graduate of mission high. she was a nurse there at treasure island my grand mother [inaudible]. it is achievable we are to be gotta be tough on it. thank you now supervisor safai ump answered my question with data. and i want to thank you for your time and the conversation we had. >> and know i'm not i don't make it to this commission i will still be there. i have been at the hearings before exit will continue to come i need to support the city. >> thank you. >> thank you i appreciate this. this is one i hope everybody embrics we got a lot of talent and approximation we are hearing from today. >> so of with mr. johnson's marks that concludes the applicants will for seat 5. i want to say how grateful i am and the people who applied for the seat for lived experience this will be inhave you been to the commission we have folks to hear come fr now seat 6. to reminds everybody this is the seat for people with significant experience providing services to or enengage nothing advocacy. and first up is andre salina. the floor is yours. >> thank you. supervisor safai and chair dorse competence walton. i'm andre salina for seat 6 of the director service provide and resident of san francisco for 27 years. i clinical work at city wide focus psychiatry and first clinic in san francisco establish in the 1980. across the program this is city wide [inaudible] 2,000 individuals with ment will illness and [inaudible]. the marining whom are currentlier formerly homeless. i have been providing [inaudible] to [inaudible] and homeless individuals for 25 years. and including lacasa [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [reading fast] over the years i worked with individuals of every race and sexual orientation. i worked with lettin xim grant population this [inaudible] provide services to african and arab yenim guarantee clients. and a half gatd every facet of the housing system shelters, [inaudible]. transitional housing and retain housing in the permanent housing system and interfitsed with cbo housing providers. i hold memory of what worked in the past and know what needs to be improve exclude insight for solutions andino visions to make a [inaudible] living with illness and [inaudible]. the perspective makes me qualified. i will approach my role from a public role perspective i understand am critical house suggest to have engage in medical care and necessary for sustaining progress in recovery. [inaudible] i serve on mental health sf wing group [inaudible]. to envision the [inaudible] project. and [inaudible] approving working with diverse grouch stick holders i help my long history of working with homelessness in san francisco demonstrates my qualifications and commitment to the work required. thank you for your consideration. >> thank you mr. salsalina? colleagues? >> just, thank you chair dorse. the same question how would you be able to hold the department accountability to addressing the disparities that exist in the system and [inaudible] cross the city. >> so, i think that i appreciate data collection. i think that we need to start collecting data of who is coming in to [inaudible] and who is prioritized. once the event row system started the folk this is get housing are those who have been prioritized. before for 2 years before for the first 2 years of theent row citizen psh [inaudible] was not within this coordinatedent row pool. we always the mental health providers refer directly to psh housing and can see coming bounce pike our clients were not prioritized. hsh credited a work around where we had to take cloinltss [inaudible] they don't get prioritized and send the same 11 page referral we sent in before. and then they get prioritized. and it makes me wonder if you are not working with a case imagine program and going solo, there are folks that are not prioritized. we don't collect did thea on the folks. we are novelty collecting data -- the housing [inaudible] are not equal whom in the getting placed where is something this we need to look at and evictions who is getting evicted. i also i also think something of huge consideration is as city ouied we work with forensic involved clients. incarceration affects african-american individuals in san francisco. and the adults can be 30% but they are at 52 or 56% of folk in jail. lots are coming home from stay in prisons and long hearing from folks becausey have a criminal justice activism. i have been hearing from my colleagues that they were understanding this folks when they knew come home from prison that were homeless were not getting prioritized. and lead me tong that probably incars vision not considered as homelessness. i witness third degree had a client home little in san francisco since he was 13. years old and at the time they took him toent row near low 2 years ago he was 46. cycle nothing and out from the street to prison since he was then and was in the prioritized and had been homeless in san francisco for decades. so it is clear this incarceration grown this is fixed i had come plained hillary robe sxen knew she was going to bring it up but don't know. if you are looking at the disproportionality of incarceration among african-americans residents of san francisco, and their history of incarceration is it included as times they have been homeless. you are coming home xaent get housed. if you can't get housedure like low to be incarcerated. i think looking at the things like how you are counseling incarceration and also creating pregnant ways to housing for folks oust state prison, federal prison or oust our jails. >> thank you. thank you. you addressed my questions with regard to did thea. i appreciated the conversation we had. thank you for putting your name forward and bringing meth and how it impacts the conversation. >> thank you. i know i wanted express appreciation for conversation we had and00 eye appreciate your institutional memory on this it is helpful to me on this, thank you for your willingness to serve. and nextum kristin evans. floor is yours. supervisor dorse, walton and safai i live in haight neighborhood and applicant for 6 and 7. our city our home gross receipt tax raised a bilgz for homeless solution in our city that money deplayed purchase housing, shelter and drug treatment beds and keep san franciscans in homes through eviction defense. but it was more then and there the decade ago i became interested in homelessness issues and city's response in 2008 the book store -- book store i own and manage held the first of many community forums k with authors, service provide and policy experts. sought to educate ourselves to sort through the homelessness in our community. over the years as a rolfe tear i assisted people experiencing homeless knowledge. helping them to connect to shelter and services and i worked with the significant number of transificational age youth sleeping on city street in the vehicles and parks. as aville tear with homelessness i have been a direct bencher in 100 encampment resolution. learned how difficult it can be to access safe and appropriate shelter whether this be i bed in a shelter, safe sleep site or hotel room, assisted young people inpatient drug treatment program and out parent service. accompanied families to appointments to be a sezed for house and waited with them for among and years before they received an offer for a place to call home. many are still waiting. if given opportunity to serve on the homeless commission i would bring organizational analytical skills through experience sorting through data sets. i will seek to shine light on challenges and scrutinize department practices and policies which have significant opportunity for improvement and all of had for the goal to focus attention on measuring our progress to achieve real solutions. ultimate low we are a rich city and rich state in a rich country and all san franciscans deserve a safe place to rest their head and ultmitt low an accomplice to call home. thank you very much for your consideration. i can jump in the 2 question fist you like me to. so specific low i would agree with men of the other previous applicants about the ways we can ensurety department is accountability to goals. and ensuring we are providing resources and services to people of color had are significant cannot low over representatived in the the homeless population. i agree with applying equity lens and using did thea that alone can't ensure we hold the department accountable. we have to make sure that for example, we know why people are when people get the offers for shelter hear had they accept and not and why than i are not. we have to lift up the vis of people experiencing homelessness, i think this this will be a great and powerful commission to bring people with experiencing homelessness upon to public attention to give them a plat furthermore to tell their store and he why they are struggling to achieve the outcome which is to get off the street. and in terms of the data question. so -- i mention in the my conversation with you supervisor safai, that department collect data today. so i'm a regular atendsee to the presentation the director gives a 9 page report and learn like how many water bottles and hi joan kits were distributed. they are interesting things but a lot of data that does in the cut to the chastes focus was when we need to accomplish. how do we get more shelter beds open and more accepting the beds? ensure people ever moving from shelter permanent supportive house being and not pick update expensive shelter bed. those other things i focus on or identifying the key metrics we really get us to the solutions of accomplish when won't want to see which is fewer living without a home. >> thank you. are there other questions y. good job. thank you so much and next up is gay crossthwai. >> thank you and thank you can you hear mow? >> yes. thank you very much for allowing mow to appear remote i'm gay and in san diego on a court order inspection of the san diego jail. i will discuss my qualifications i'm a lawyer representing people with disabilities and many face homelessness. i montort 15 billion dollars government agency called [inaudible] for compliance with plan and laws. this professional experience is directly irrelevant voluntaries to commission and the city [inaudible] use the funds wise low to end this tragic problem. as the owner of a mall business in san francisco emaccomplice 40 people or so i seat impact of homelessness daily on our financial district. as a homeowner in the richmond, i won't to seat treasure and sleeping on sidewalks. if chosen to serve i would make several things my priorities. first audit. we need an outside audit. to not better or city audit use our city audit to understand how we are spending our funds and to your question, mr. walon, are up we using those funds fair low and equal low. we need an audit and outside voices. new you know experts who can give us a second. i read the accomplice for all report and i don't understand why we need within.4 billion dollars and how it would be spent and how many the numbers would address our problem. and note the report does in the address ecwittedy or inclusion at least my read of temperature i like to see a data base. it is in the okay you have to call 311 and told there are 5 addresses with shelter and stand in line. this is san francisco. we can do a data base i would like to see more tiny homes and why our mate is 10 times oak land's. i like to see more services, maps, drug and alcohol counciling, sober live and we need to support the heard work hsh employees who are facing trauma throughout w than i do with this very difficult job. if chosen i will w to affect the goals of the commission. thank you for listening to me and, pol yoiz for become ground noise. >> thank you for joining us from san diego. are there questions. show aggressed my questions. thank you gwen y. thank you so much. gay and next up is jason albertson. michael albertson. thank you for the middle name. supervisors. thank you for welcome me here today. member of board, members of the communities and fellow candidates i note i'm an employment of d. public health and i don't represent department. required notice. i worked in the communities of poverty, substance abuchls homelessness and hiv since 1990 starting at next door shelter. i was a family support liaison. now am home rise. i helped open the center and opened the 2 building in thes early days of supportive permanent housing. i helped build i community upon process to shape the civil right's center of continuum plan and got a degree in 99 worked in south of market mental health for 8 years the first new program in the state to support people with homelessness. new first in 30 years. after that i decide wing on homeless out reach would be a refreshing break and managed the team for another 8 year before the psychiatric emergency response time in san mateo and there was a homeless challenge there as well. i came back to homelessness and supportive housing a lead for the encampment resolution team. wod this with some success and moveed hiv. 2 envelope years in stloets and camps with covid response. i provide services in supportive house to aging sometimes physically deteriorating population. in a situation where we don't have strong outcome metrics and perception this evictions oh , well they'll ham. including one reasonable. planned for an elderly woman remaining a hermit has not [inaudible]. i bring to the task of membership on the oversight commission i perspective noot easily won except through time. seeing what workd and what has not and seeing cycles of public distress, intervention, evaluation, sometimes punish am of homeless people and attempts to manage the problem. bring member shps in each department tasked with managing this challenge in san francisco. i bring this personal knowledge of homeless people, communities, cult urs and ways of being, i bring my understanding how homelessness affects, frustrates our residents. working on streets since 1990. there are years. excited bring niez to the task of support. i attends every year the homeless memorial. and stood boy and crip head people died and cell brit when people got in house and thrived from the hard w now i find them prit nothing i kill zone less is thought how to passport people to live. our system needs to comprise 3 things to succeed. my hope to forward these as a member of the commission to use the knowledge i achieved of the first is residential system. one thisy evaluates without fear of punishment, exposure without regret this is dmifl this entity we face. i can request my clothe fist we are questions? >> thank you. vice chair walton. thank you. the same question how would you hold the department, countability to addressing the disproporingality of black homeless people in the city and where we sigh increased homeless knows? >> we recognize we are looking at the institutional racism. and it is limited by zip codes. in this circumstance, i think well is room to manage housing preferences in an affirmative way to which remedy past discrimination not tucked about much t. is manage i think the commission can passport the department to look at. it is something that was i present idea under the previous director and i think it let's you get around the fair housing act. but also some folks in the city attorney's office will think about this i think we can set housing for verse categories responsiblesed discrimination. i push for it. why thank you, supervisor safai. we had a good conversation and addressed my questions today. why thank you. >> and next up neil simms. the floor is yours. gi believe neil is joining remotely. >> good morning. can you hear me okay. thank you chairman dorsey, walton and supervisor safai for considering me today. i first should apologize for my limited availability to meet with you folks prior to today. this review candidate happened to over lay a vacation planned. i'm peeking to you today from the jungles of cam bowlesia. so i hope my wellingness to be available at 2:30 newscast miles an houring my time is an indication of my commitment to the chfrmg changes we face. i'm like you impressed by both the credential and it is number of folks from san francisco who have presented themselves i'm encouraged boy this wlo i'm selected. i am a 30 plus year resident of san francisco and spent years on civil right and social justice issues and affordable housing challenges. i spent more then and there 10 years on the board directors served as chairman of the board of an organization, open house. we built 117 units of low income housing for lgbt seniors and provides serviceos an -- remote base to several,000 other seniors living age in accomplice in san francisco. in pair 3 my tenure with open house i serviced as mayor yell appointee to what was the d. aging and, did you tell service commission. it has been renamed i think -- now das in the daas. during that tenure i worked directly with mcfadden. she republican that department during a portion of the time i served on the commission. and she and i pair led each other in her move to the department of homelessness. because i serve as a member of the board of directors of home rise in formerly the community housing partnership. today we housed 23 formerly homeless in 18 buildings across san francisco and provide permanent supportive housing in the with respect around service this is go with the housing itself. yes this it is sort of i think a sum row of my qualifications. i would address tht 2 questions this supervisor raise in, countability and visibility around racial disparities. and my response is that i'm an experience from of the daas commission. a great deal of the impact of a city department like this is -- distributed through third parties. and the accountability and visibility in the contract system a play-offs leverage. where the right questions can be asked by a commissioner -- to make sure that -- the priority issues are addressed. so i would recommend this both the stand point of -- upon the racial access question and accountability and performance be in part addressed through the way commissioners are probate both the population of agencies that are funded thu the city and performance against the deliveriables in contracts. >> thank you. colleagues, any questions you did a good job of anticipating the questions this would be asked and answering them. thank you for joining us from come bode why and the wee hours of the morning and i appreciate your willingness to serve and the final applicant is a former member of this body and concern director dart board mr. bevan dufty. the flower is yours >> thank you to everyone here. i we mute the other line. thank you. okay. i'm goods. thank you, sir. i want to say that being here for the past couple of hours has been inspiring. gives me a sense of hope and how important this commission is. for the city to do a better job. the reality is people live or work in san francisco what they see is when is not working. seeing anybody on the street and using on the street. folk in cars, clear. all of those things. and i think this this commission as the opportunity top really educate the public. it is important it is televisedir participated with the local homeless board and the meetings are important but bring thanksgiving lens on to hat city is doing approximate looking at the best practice others are doing is an important thing. i'm proud of the fact i started the first navigation center. in that, there are a couple lessons one is to create low barriers not to bring failure on to people that have generally had failure already in their lives. at home and school and community and complex systems that seek to have folks run in the wall that00 stereo it is not good this is manage we look at over and over again. i was happy to hear jordan davis testify today and it med me excited because the commission will be able to take folks that are anxiety row and give them an opportunity to have a voice. not that jordan would not 3 an elbow in my direction i'm not pandering in this this has not exist exclude that clients they are too busy to meet with machine this is in my day, 5 years ago. i have gone through signing up ga for men know hillary xhith eversmith in this and i have gone through a lot of hand's on experiences to see what is not working. i will briefly say hai started the castro young adult homeless program with larkin street and lbgtq+ done focusing on young people we see more young people in san francisco and jazzy accomplice envagz stopped and 400 thousand dollars short fall i worked with david compose when fifth and harrison proposed other than youth housing i fought to make that help and i believe i have credibility with the advocate in this room. i support coalition on homelessness and tell the truth and there are other leaders sitting in the benches now i look forward to working with to make this commission a success. apologize for running over >> thank you mr. dufty. i will say, i rememberful back when you had you were over seeing homelessness with the office in the basement hi was in the stele attorney's office we would have an everinteraction i appreciate you bring a memory and knowledge of the city government and have the heart for the individual there. >> thank you >> this is something i admire and will do my best to emulate. i will upon handled off to vice chair walton. >> thank you for being willing to serve. i have been committed to improving san francisco for years and appreciate you want to step up in this role. same question. in terms of addressing the disproportionalities in the black population this are homeless and the fact the southeast sector responsibles homeless knowledge different and folks who are neglected by the department at times how would you hold the department, countable. >> obviously. racism is at core that what has happened the black community in san francisco this city was known for the vibrancy of the community in different parts of town. i will give an example. when i worked on veteran homelessness from mayor lee whoa had hud and va meet with us in public housing authority and my office and we were focusing on the fact that one out of every 5 black veteran system homeless. and the obama administration chink third degree using section 8. we came to the meeting how to kick things off. there were several hired lie hud and the va they were all white. i think this one thing important this you don't have to be black to call out racism we experience instead homeless service system how few organizations seek to serve this community have blk leadership within the organizations. i was proud of the fact when i had 4 in the basement of city hull that our staff was 50% african-american. myself. and christine keener. i think you can count on me being a dog with i bone like everything we do needs to be focused. and we have to recognize the latino population doubled in homelessness the lbgtq+ population i worked on in many neighborhoodless in the city and i look forward to doing things that change what is helping in d10. >> thank you. >> thank you and supervisor safai >> yes. to build on in point. director dufty, i think just to dmril i bit on your experience with the broad range of communities but the youth. i think this we talked about discrim nigz and house and incars rigz and talked about so many inld indicators that lead to this number of african-americans being homeless in our city. but what we are not talked about today is how it begins at a young age and the seat you will occupy for is for families and for working with youth. talk a bit about that and how it play in this leading into the inld indicators for those this are hemless if we look at this some of those issues begin at a young age. not trying to lead you but opinioning we had conversations, luyou to peek on this foremost and others spoken about this. stop evictions. i think this is an penitentiary area and i think we have to also look into the organizations and had is done with kids in the foster care system and to make sure we are doing everything possible. what this question beg system it is reason i want to be on this commission is because i have been in city government for 20 years, you know what makes a department head great? if than i don't ask for more money this is ridiculous thing that goos relate to homeless knows you look at the shelters that have been under resources, upon you should staffd and obviously then have community problems and people in neighborhoods don't want services than i associate them with problems coming to their neighborhood. we have to create a merit based system to appreciate when people say they need resources to be successful. some have hung in around he were. i really particular is corroded the homeless response system. at a level people are not honest. about had they are able to do. and there is no reason we set a policy around sro's. this we want to preserve them. but not putting the service in to make them healthy building this is is total low on the city we can do a better yen and the health department will have to be a part of the work and human service per of the w we can do. i'm straight up excited. exit irrelevant am looking forward to working with many who this have still in the this room to make to change things of how things get done. >> this is a good point to end on the knowledge of understanding this in an upon relationships with the different departments the need for hsh to work collaborative collaborativ. i appreciate you miling when i said it. i don't have further questions. thank you director dufty. thanks to everyone for remarks and the opportunity to just learn a lot about this. mr. clerk, let's open this item to public comment. why members of the public had wish to speak and joining us line up to peek at this time. for those remote call 415-655-0001, access code: 2489 884 3434 ##. you will need to press star 3 to enter the speaker line. continue to wait until the system indicated you have been unmuted and begin your comment. our first in person speaker? good afternoon. board thank you for giving mote town to speak i know most everyone here this morning. i want to call out a few. first tracie mixon. she said this she is out on the streets every day. i'm in the line scomploin see her out every day we worked on so many clients i can't tell you. jason albertson on the streets for 20-30 yers. he is a person that gave me my first door key when i was laying out in tents. 20 years ago. i reason why i got in add are kaes seat 6 i'm in now is buzz of this man. he knows that [inaudible] we served on of the first [inaudible] task force in the mayor's office years ago. christie she and i worked together and met in a resolution [inaudible] years ago ands had the approximation for this position. bevan duff that he is mr. homelessness i can't say enough about him. they homelessness is such a nonissue than i put him in the basement of city hall and he over to being this and became -- he never refused to take my calls had i have a client in trouble. ennis johnson who has got, lot of approximation i irrelevant appreciate him. applying i appreciate thefrn came today and my regret is i wish brian epier son was still alive to apply for this seat. he should be sitting here. because he is he all love him i love him every day i can't believe he is in the here. thank you. federal afternoon. good to see you thank you for having us here i'm stefani ashley the chair of the transgender justice project. i want to start by thanking all of the applicants today. so many phenomenonal people whom do this work every day. i'm not here to advocate for any one my graft taoist to gratitude to tric and he ennis we fought good fight us and know kristin, i remember her coming in and picking up an elder after hours we did not have a place and kristin picked her up and got her a hotel room. everyone for seat 5 i have the respect and gratitude it it is hard to fight against the bureaucracy every day. it is critical. i was sad when i found janetta was with draws but has a national fightace joaquin share lead is a real war waged against transpeople and we have a building with 21 black women and the building was set fire to overnight weekend i. to ask torn hold the urgency sudden front has to credit a safe place for transfolks who are homeless. thank you. i'm suz and he i'm a housing counsellor in the tenderloin i'm here to speak on behalf of gregory johnson. he is passionate with projects this he works on. he is determined to see projects through. i think this heat would be a great asset to the mittee and that's it. thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm kathy ron i'm a residents of the tenderloin. and i'm here to speak about gregory johnson. i worked with gregory for a year on the central city collaborative safety committee. and i have found working with him is a wonderful experience. gregory shown skill in tracking yours and this need improvement and as well as showing us clients statistic in our your. he is well thought out. years and come approximationate when expressing the ideas. he is a person of integrity and honesty. loves talking with people and is very out going. bring him on this committee would be a huge @set to the community and the committee. thank you. >> good afternoon members of the rules committee i'm clifford gilmore. i work in the organizing department of housing clinic i run the leadership program we have 35 residential leaders and in this program, gregory johnson accepted the role the resident leader on hyde street. you have been that people who are from the homeless that come different pregnants to supportive housing. and it is difficult to organize to have i bond and vision. greg row did this at the vincent hotel. it is challenging. and as well as he is out there in the community every day. talking to people and someone like gregory who lived the experience of homeless knows is qualified to work with people on the issue. he is a consensus person. and a team player that matters when you dpo group. he is dealt indicated, committed, does a lot of research and if you are doing this work if it is in the in your heart you will not be able to do it. his heart is there and committed. we are recommending this gregory be appointed to this commission. >> hello i loic to say hel low to all 3 of you. thank you for all you do. i'm cheryl shanks a community organizer at the tenderloin and cofounder of slowlies food co-op hub opening this summer i'm here on behalf of tracie mixon she is a dedicated person to the community. has live experience. we need live experience on the street. she works with the homeless coalition. she has great opportunity to -- develop further in her work in the community. she is out in the communities. she knows -- what people i'm sorry this is my puppy. she knows what people need. she will prioritize people in the streets. you know i hear, let of people speaking but on housing but have not heard anybody speak on behalf of 5 percent of black people left in san francisco and prioritizing them in housing. high majority of the black people that are here are homeless. and pushed out. so -- that needs to be locked at by hsh and it is is not. when i speak to people now who are on the committee. and i ask them about vouchers than i don't know. they don't have numbers or who is getting in or know how to get i voucher. that is outrageous. tracie does her research. she does research. >> time is up >> and live responsibles. ive can go on and on. please consider tracie mixon. thank you. >> good afternoon now i'm jordan she, her, they, them. ive oppose the commission but i got to support tracie mixon has a powerful life story of lived experience, add have kaes and works hearder than i will we need strong community based black woman leader ship and she does not care about what you want to here she wants you to hear had you need to hear and i think ger oro should be [inaudible] with the other states and what i heard about this sro catching fire that pisses me off. i don't want to give a third endorsement there are too many i don't want to piss off i will piss people off anybody with ties to the sro giving big dollar contracts to provider. and building and i have to deal with bull -- including opposition this is make [inaudible] [inaudible]. which is why supervisor ronen bring up the budget left year tenderloin sro collaborate tifs obstructionism on commission i served on with respect i cannot trust anyone to bring oversight that is needed for people like my land lord and i said before i'm a disabled tenant who has nothing to lose. i will be at the meetings giving comment on hsh operations with foul language and you have to listen. i yield my time. f-you. why sarah hor with home rise. and first, this is xoiting this we are seat thanksgiving commission and props to supervisor safai. for making this help before i tell you the folks i worked with and support, i wanted to say this i continuing it is important to consider the equity and he diversity and inclusion issue around the composition of this body as well. and so -- making sure we have accept centation of the key communities that are highly impacted boy homeless knowledge the black and brown communities and lbgtq+ and disabled folks. is also important. the people that i have had experience working with around homeless knows were kristin upon evans. she blue my mind on sip holing. not a housing in the field but grasps the policy issues easy 3 and push things forward and on top of this spendses time helping individual case. jason of bert son hips experience is incredible the perspective he has in this for the longhaul. tracie mixon, hopeful it is i strong advocate for those on the street and live in psa now and connected to the community. and will bring that voice to the mix. bevan dufty i don't vice president to say much about him. but his leadership skill this is we know he has with his knowledge of homelessness would be an asset and final low i worked with salia on the mental health sf wing group examine provided leadership y. time e lapsed. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> hello supervisors i'm eon james organizing director at the coalition on homeless knows. i think there is great candidates for the board today i like to poke in favor tracie mixon. i think this commission has a lot of work this is needs to provide accountability to the homeless response system and -- we need commission members with experience of the issues. and know how the system works and does not work. tracie has experience and sloping on mats in the friendship family shelter. has experience helping adults and families and youth navigatent row and making the services this are available. and i think the other thing this makes her stand out is her ability to use her lived experience and the importance show's seen on out retch to create solutions and improve the system for everybody. her irrelevant in opening oasis and making sure families don't end up on the street come from her experience. alost others to the committee necessary low have. and the other person i worked with is kristin evans. a person seen exact low when things are going wrong on the street level. thank you. one did thea and the other had can the department do? this is the lowest type of behavior that can come from a representative. data have you heard of [inaudible] garbage this and garbage out? and the other guy have you heard of him not being opinion in his own districts? there are people at pier 94 who are live nothing trailers. there are activities going on including prostitution. and how can a person ask candidate how they will fix a department and the departments are corrupt. need an outside audit and want to have been yet supervisors use urban al kemp learning sums of money and talks with supervisors are talking and the city administrator and the supervisors among themselves you don't want to listen to the community. and that's going the downfall of san francisco. thank you very much. >> thank you. can we have the next caller? >> hello i'm chelsea and i w as a service provide in home little prevention field i'm calling to endorse joaquin ger oro and trace i mixon. i believe that we need trans and black represent tipgz and their experience will be very have you been for the commission. compassion is evident committee w they have done and do every day and i hope they are both ash pointed. thank you for your time today. thank you >> double checking. can we have the next caller. >> hello i'm [inaudible] i am on the development people at saint james i want to encourage you to consider both wukeen and tracie. for the seat. and as everyone is well aware we are in a national federal crisis this is demonize and harming specific low trans people and transpeople of color. this is a white supremacist offense on trans people throughout the country and san francisco has been a strong advocate and can continue to by prioritizing transrep centation and black and people of color representation add vo indicating against homeless knows. thank you. >> thank you. just checking this was the left caller >> thank you mr. clerk. public comment. public comment on this item is now closed. . supervisor safai. >> thank you. may be i will let supervisor walton go first. >> voice chair walton. >> thank you supervisor safai and chair dorsey. i want to thank the applicants for coming in and showingum today and putting your name forward. this is commission this i want feel was in accomplice. it is important the work of the commission and so i just wanted to say, thank you all for coming out. this is -- obviously going to be a very hard, difficult decision for us as a committee to actually pick the right 3 people we do have so many qualified candidates and we have to take so many things to consideration. but i want to say to any candidate that is not selected go forward, please continue the work, please say appropriated. a lot of things happen with commissions and we can't pick everyone but we have a lot of qualified candidates here. i wanted to make sure that everyone knows how excited we are you chose to want to serve in this capacity and remember, the work continues if you don't get selected. i left a couple of election in my life and than i are doing the work and fortunate to serve. don't get discouraged if you are in the chosen today. we have heard decisions to make. . thank you. >> thank you vice chair walton. supervisor safai. du want to make comments first and i can wrap it up? >> i'm informed by our deputy city attorney that a motion to expand this commission would not be something that was doable. so as much as you wish you one could. seeing all the heart and the expertise this is here. i will say just adding to what people vice president said about don't give ump i can say -- i will be reaching out to people and i had conversations among the people i met with that i will be turning to folks buzz of how impressed i was with so many meetings i had. and i dent want to say one but i then and there andre salina was informative and when we met went over 30 minutes or long are then and there the meeting was scheduled. all of that said, i think, i will tell you where i'm grappling with and i mentioned this earlier one thing that is heard to do in this policy making role is stands back and look at the make up of the commission. my feeling is as a moefbt lbgtq+ plus community myself aware this the additional lbgtq+ task force in 2021, did