Transcripts For SFGTV Board Of Appeals 111616 20161126

Asked them to stop operating they the immediately, the second one over the hearing before you i didnt know anything about that but asked do Public Health Department Staff on their own if we were able to operate and staff said, yes that is documented by email and the board of appeals staff knows about that that was a mistake and ones that was discovered within it was two or three hours of operating i had them stop immediately i dont know about that i know the general rule about a preempt still suspended and had them stop immediately. Thank you i have ha i have a question for the department of health. Good evening. Im june the manager for the medical Cannabis Dispensary Program at the San Francisco department of health. Can you verify what the department did in those instance. We made a mistake i take full responsibility for 2 we can call that a supervisor issue i was out of town at the time of the last hearing not present to be providing appropriate supervision and direction our inspector did his slut best to give information when asked and he take responsibility for it. So to clarify this therefore you would not blame the project sponsor for opening. I would not. Thank you. Then my question is that in the first hearing i voted to hear the appeal and lost but that was generally based on a clerical error or other error from our Department Im not trying to hammer you in any what what happened there i mean. Essentially the distancing as a supervisor again, i just started managing the program in april of this year its been a challenging year personal for me and i am some of my supervisory skills have fallen by the way side. And a followup question is with the passing i believe proposition 64 if youre department is having issues with a limited amount of stuff how will they handle it going forward. Were hoping for additional staff and support that is going to be a big job. Okay. Thank you very much. I very sympathetic to the public i think to verbalize that last time i voted in the direction i was the final vote in the direction that the ruling went i felt that i heard the publics pain those who felt they were not heard we heard the source of that pain a moment going ago through unfortunately mismanagement . About new evidence and new and Important Information that was not presented from our last hearing and im not hearing anything that we didnt hear the last time equip for a few statutes that are global around california that are repudiated by the deputy Zoning Administrator corey i hope i got our title right. I see no reason to have a new hearing according to the rules. I was in support of appeal last hearing the rules and the bar for a rehearing are extremely high i dont see any manifest injustice and after reviewing the appellants brief that was the same exact material i reviewed in the past hearing ill not support another hearing either. Make a motion. Motion to deny the request for a rehearing due to the fact no new and important evidence has before present and the threshold for that will constitute a hearing or rejuvenate a new hearing has not been met commissioner swig to deny the request commissioner fung commissioner lazarus commissioner president honda and commissioner wilson that motion carries are voting of 5 to zero and next christopher versus the public works of urban forestry the property others vermont streets of a tree Real Estate Brokerage for two acacia trees with one with 24 inch box well start with the appellant maybe take a moment to let the room clear you have 7 minutes to present your case. House that. Kari i think that mike is set up for me. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Is this okay can i have the pc . Good evening were here about two trees on vermont street tree number one is an acacia healthy what with large canopy and old we dpw standards a significant tree should receive special consideration and tree number two a smaller acacia also heath the dpw is requesting it should be removed there is no upkeep on those and in addition as you can see from the photo a third tree a peer that is connected by the root structure to tree number two the smaller one it will kill the third tree in number 2 is removed so we know there is various benefits from trees but those trees one noise reduction adjacent to the 101, two we actually have bird in the area it will destroy their habitat and 3 pollutions the highways are the center pollution the trees abate that and four it reduces stormwater run off the intersection here is below grade the sewer is clogged this will increase the problem and lastly blight because of this area board caltrans dpw didnt respond to requests to remove garbage or abate trash and it is their responsibility if they had this takes months it increases the blight and becomes a circle those photos are new from today and as you can see this is what a request and the request says quote case resolved belongs to caltrans on City Property the first reason they want to remove those trees is safety due to a closed pedestrian bridge that is next to those trees this pedestrian bridge has a closed since the 80s because of security the police and caltrans jointly agreed to close it this bridge is located the efforts of several bridges in the area on 23 and 22 and cesar chavez it is really not necessary the majority of public does not want this bridge on the majority said keep it closed why . Because the brim that are open such as faith street the 22 street bridge, the hairball, and chavez bike paths are homeless camps dpw did not maintain the existence and no hope to maintain other structures so, yeah in an ideal world well open the bridge that is kind of silly to have the infrastructure centered but in a real world we wouldnt where Mohammed Nuru director of public works in 52015 he tried to pull a fast one 30,000 on 9 led light bulks and two days of lash for dwp employees there are no lights on 22 which is right by General Hospital that is used night and day in lights on the fight streets bridge and yet installed on a closed bridge you can say conspiracy history but the investigations against the director voter fraud misappropriation of funds by state lawyers and california secret and settlements in 2011 sorry that was for a repalliation suit from a former employee of dwp how fair the hearing said theyll remove 4 trees as you can see here at the hearing they couldnt state whether that was 4 or 2, but the hearing was allowed to be continued without a clear course of action by dpw after the hearing chris buck im sure is nice but was allowed to provide Additional Information after the hearing to the hearing officer how is that fair thats not a hearing also this email states from sandra former Deputy Director no right to open the bridge that is a caltrans bridge lastly clean the bridge theres a homeless camp weve tried to get it out for awhile heres what the last response in the bridge is closed dpw cant access the debris or wait transfer to caltrans quickly sidewalk repair yes sidewalk is damaged as you can see that is lifted in a continuous manner like this for 9 or 10 years as far as i know so it is great they want to fix it but no reason to kill the trees the curb is below city standards 2 and threequarters highlevel the grade to 6 inches or 8 itches in that is state standards the root structure can remain underneath no need to kill the trees or disadvantage the root structure while fixing the walk that plan is feasible and economical a under the California Environmental quality act public agencies shouldnt approve thank you, sir, your time is up. And youll have time in rebuttal. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Buck. Welcome mr. Buck. Chris bureaucrat urban forestry with San Francisco public works ill go to overhead ive got a pretty good photo of the overall site there so there is a quite a bit Community Discussion right now about the state of this pedestrian bridge whether that will be opened or not i dont know the status of that my sense that may not open so for the moment well have to kind of table that im not here to talk about whether or not the bridge will be open what happened our project team brought to our attention a couple of trees they were concerned about at the bridge two subject trees are black acacia theyve volunteered there one is quite a sapling and in the incidental on the right this is tree number one a larger tree tree 2 subject to the appeal is the volunteer saping so the species didnt tolerant the root to repair the sidewalk we need to prune the roots of trees that cause expensive damage from the blue car thirty feet to the right and repairing the walk whether cause the tree to become severely declined in its vigor and potentially suffer a large root failure so we planted this species across San Francisco an hate and divisadero they have root failures and dont tolerant root print when we evaluated the site we immediately identified those two trees as worthy of removal the large acacia is right up against the because of that wall the retaining wall that is the ramp and heres on image of that so this is subject tree number 2 the large tree as you can see the volunteered up against the because of wall the second tree the saping and other acacia sprout here and there a back acacia a decent street in an open space that is exotic it takes over open spaces it sprouts busy feed when we evaluated those to too obvious trees that need to be removed theyll cause damage to the retaining wall and regardless of whether the ramp is open at the public works hearing we dont believe there is adequate room but offer to one 24 inch box tree to the last of this tree here and just to clarify roving the acacia right here will not impact the health of that tree well not need to remove the tree well plant within 24 inch box tree one challenge of the site the narrow growing space for mature trees further down wider we planted the trees purposely this 0 the area is two small of a space thats why we have expensive sidewalk damage it was an the retaining wall and the curve there is really no room for the roots that retaining wall must go down those roots are running up and down the sidewalk the curve is 16 inches down enough of that sort of barricade so did roots are really all in this area of the sidewalk increasing the height of the curve is not an option and so therefore public works recommends that our resulting order be upheld with the removal of acacia and the small saping where replacement with one 24 inch box tree i understand it is challenging anyone living near 101 the goal to be as much remain as much greenery as possible the challenges there is limited growing space and regardless of whether the bridge is opened up or not public works seeks the removal of those two trees well see what happens to the status whether or not the bridge opens from my perspective those are trees that should be etch removed public works seeks to make the repairs whether or not the bridge is not and planted the required replacement tree one final note our inspector for the area sarah stacey met with the appellant to talk about the concerns of the general area regarding greening that sound wall such possible public works by default is responsible for the public rightofway outside of the retaining wall there are a number of jack remand trees not doing well, well ask to be replaced too much overhang and from the eucalyptus above goss close to the site plant evergreen not a lot of extra or sidewalk damage and evergreen yearround were committed to up the amount of greenery in the area im hopeful with the passage of prop well have more trees to plant that pretty much concluded any testify testimony it is a challenging site anyone that lives across the bridge wants canopy but a confined space for planting one final comment from the project team is that one scenario to install a bulb out and plant two or three trees in the sidewalk out towards the curve in places of parking thats way down the road from the bridge is allowed to open thats one possibly mitigation that public works can pursue from the bridge is in fact, opened right now the status of bridge opening or closing i dont think anyone knows the current status at this point. Thank you, mr. Buck i have a question a scheduled repair dates slated for the sidewalk. Not yet depended on the outcome of this hearing generally id like say a few months. The second question the appellant put a document or picture on the overhead indicating that whos responsibility is it to clean the side of the pedestrian walkway where the trees are planted. What ill do following the hearing bring it to 9 attention of larry stringer he oversees the services and also our project team for the feedback im sure theyve received that that feedback he need to forward to them unfortunately, i cant speak on behalf of public works related to the cleanliness issues. Whos responsibility are you unsure of whos responsibility. I know street trees responsibility is ours i assume the area in the public rightofway will be our responsibility the state didnt have the resources to attend to the. I think the email indicated it is the states issue. I believe it is public works responsibility and theres other ordinances about whether or not you know access to the bridge to clean up the debris maybe often the bridge that needs to be figured out. Thank you sure. Is the ramp caltrans property. My sense the ramp is caltrans property and public works helps to maintain it the it is certainly on caltrans property one scenario to modify the ram to have both the we dont need to get into that. How about access to the ram is that city or state property. I believe access is it would be shared but seems like mostly on caltrans property inside caltrans property when i look at the configuration lets see if i have a side angle my sense is that the public rightofway if you go to the image to the right the image to the right there is a perpendicular fence an access point i dont know in the Property Line of the ramp is the state or set in other 6 feet my sense this is a caltrans property. But the tree was that planted by the city and the tree volunteered and kind of in. Those other trees were planted most likely by the city caltrans or refer to undocumented trees. I thought the small one was volunteer. And it was. Okay. So since youre up there can you give me a sense of the chronology that might occur in the process of removing the trees and then replacing the trees and while at the same time at some point the sidewalk might be repaired. How does that go. Sure so we would if approved for removal weve remove the trees within the next month or two after the trees are removed the large trees we need to remove the stumble another month we can bump that up to try to recognize the priority level to the board of appeals and try to satisfy the public so repair sidewalk will then occur after we removed the tree a good amount of sidewalk to repair within a few months of tree removal well go ahead and repair the sidewalks in that area well be looking at a few months. The replacement tree comes in. After we repair the sidewalk so well repair the tree as long as that sidewalk with repaired things are progressing with sidewalk repair and ord the tree make sure we have the tree in the shop ready to be planted once the sidewalk work is completed. Now this will happen can you but im sensitive to the appellant in the conversation related to what is occurred in general dpw has been unresponsive to the general situation of the space he points out that it is below grade and in addition the condition of the sidewalk might contribute to flooding or run off of more junk that would matrix into the area where the trees provide what is the safeguard im not questioning the merits of project but what im concerned with the the risks of the neighborhood should shall we say the projects extends beyond our description and fits blighted. Uhhuh. The right word blighted for on expended period of time and the tries to climb whats the protection mr. Buck. Sure one thing to point out if there are continues progress from the conversation about how modifying the retaining wall the ramp all over the place adding a stairway i see that slowing down the sidewalk repair well go ahead and install want bought and wait until that is dead in the water before we move forward with the repairs thats one potential hiccup to add to the chronology weve talked about i think the key thing here is the site as received a lot of discussion amongst the Community Clear a lot of people opposed to opening the bridge and folks feel strongly about opening that regardless of whether that is the way it is enough light has been shined open it is priority of public works to get it right thats one safeguard it has a lot of transaction supervisor cowen for district 10 is heavy involved along with the community weve met the appellant for the first time for us at the urban forestry this is the first exacts ive been with the city for a long no interaction for 11 years but showing our inspection met with the appellant on 09 issues on the same block kind of shows once in uttering hands were very, very responsive and public works will urban design responsive to the concerns of the public addressing that i mean Public Safety and compliments are huge issues for public works and although may not seem like that is to the public they dont realize how many requests and moving people in camps to have them show up the next day because of lack of policy there is a lot of reasons why not every corner of the city is spectacularly and clean in 24 7. Other situations and other policies will aside would you think that that would be prudent and with our own concerns that the decision on the walkway is still unclear at best would you think that if we were to take our suggestion about removing the trees and replacing the trees on the sidewalk we might want to tie that action not to a occur before theres clarity and closure from the city to deal with the walkway. So we my sense is that we would like to make the repairs regardless of the outcome of the bridge open or not we believe itself sidewalk now that were aware of it is hazardous we should return it to good order regardless of outcome i think we should move forward with the repairs and with tree removal make the sidewalk right get the tree out the way and focusing replanting the focus on the site. That with that said what happens if tomorrow or tomorrow in a relative short time the conversation heaps up with our best intentions the subject on the walkway heats up and suddenly goes into discussion and you kind of have a half baked project where the trees are cut down and everything comes to a halt that is what i agree with myself i was reading the material we can make a good decision but a bad mistake. Sure. If subject to another other situation what are your thoughts. I dont think so im a tree geek the public may not release that obviously used to be a hippie in and earlier days the tree is in the wrong place the wrong tree a fact we love mature trees we have a tree here this tree will not benefit the site the power lines is one thing i forgot to mention not to make that much larger the idea to improve this site people want to feel safe and ive been a strong advocate current trees dont cause crime people cause crime people need viability in order to access whether theyll go up the ramp that is imperative to rove the tree and in terms of safeguard leaving the tree in a state the neglect i dont think that will improve the situation at all. Thank you. Is there dpw staff here who are involved with the bridge and the. Theyre not here this evening but extensive conversations a week ago i thought they were the liaisons and the bridge is so far amongst a agreed upon thing an issue with the public works tree so i was like then well not be talking about the brim well be talking about the bridge and site theyre not here this evening and not able to shed a lot of light a lot of con jurassic a key takeaway is are focusing on this by public works. Thank you. Thank you any Public Comment on this item . Please step forward. Hi, my name is ernie an architect in the city so im fairly familiar are tree removal permits im a neighbor ive lived on the block for over 35 years before a sound wall and any vegetation at all none of which came from the city only 9 generosity of neighbors trying to make that a lot better basically, he look at this as a giant smoke screen dpw would care about our bloke equip someone had a brilliant idea the offer pass should be opening it and im not going to go through that but chris mentioned they kept e keep on spending money on the over pass to force to be completed they have to open if theyve spent too much money it is a passive aggressive way to force on the communities and nobody wants to open the other thing the dpw you have to remember the people that are responsible for issuing tree permits were like doing a fox to henhouse who is looking out for the public trust at all and quickly in terms of security the problem with that overpass there is a very significant one story grade change from the street up to the offer pass nonnobody can say the tree has nothing to do with with the they closed the offer pass mr. Sweet i appreciate you saying something lets mitigate as a show of face by dpw theyll not cut the trees and walk away theyre paying the buck to Something Else i appreciate your time thank you very much. Sir question you and perhaps others who are against the opening of this bridge primarily due to security i issues. It was just somebody would get on the bridge and close each end when they built the workshop i didnt people take the bridge and walk across there and everyday someone was mugged the other problem because you cant see the bridge people get smash and grab out of the cars and police cant see the Police Jurisdiction line it the freeway like a chp is bayview or southern who responsibility 0 so thank you. Any other Public Comment. Hi, my name is mona i live on 25th street i did write a letter but wanted to speak i also dont want the footbridge open because of the same thing with security im worried about theyre doing this with the tree like necessary put the lights i wish we can decide if that is going to be open or not before we went ahead ill hate to replant trees if it opens up again. Thank you. Thank you. Any other Public Comment. Seeing none, well have rebuttal starting with the appellant. So firstly mr. Buck explain why the curve quaint be rails didnt make sense the city has proposed widening the sidewalk it didnt make sense to rip auto the trees and widened it later it is ridiculous in my brief he said they tore up the sidewalk on the corner here and in the process damaged the local trees and at first i thought no purpose but the actual purpose to fill in a tree well with concrete instead of replanting the tree on 25th and vermont at that exact corner the city is mandated by i did unifying to expanding our trees not decreasing them i did a little were going supposed to be replacing one for one when we remove them if you can see the chart from 2011 to 2016 in the 6 block radius 20 trees have been removed i verified i did 5 years i could verify with google street maps zero trees have been planted in that same timeframe so there altruistic plan is not what theyre doing they can say okay. This is bryant Public School on san bruno and 25th notice the tree in the center july 15th it is young and small and green june 16th a dirt hole i would like you to send a message to dpw as you may know the work orders are and remove and replant one order for both processes i would like you to deny the removal of those two trees and mandate dpw replant 10 trees in this 6 block radius to make up for the 20 trees weve lost over the past 5 years San Francisco is supposed to be the trend set are for virtual issues for the country and currently San Francisco see canopy is 13 percent were the worst city in the country blow detroit to say not nice and went bankrupt and had more trees than we do please help me to make my neighborhood better and the city better thanks. Thank you. Mr. Buck. Thank you, chris buck urban forester of public works i look forward to working with the appellant hope to be the urban forestryer for 20 years and with the proposition e passage we hope to expand the urban forest we can work tote with the appellant to look at sites not replanned we uphold our urban forestry unit we require trees are replanted when there is adequate space and fine owners when not done theres a utility closet not require the Property Owner to replant we can use more recognizes in the urban forestry we work with everyone ive been active for friends of forest he understand when you care about quality of life issues and no one is listening to i, assure you the staff will be different from other experiences with that said, i used to building in conspire theory. Dont have enough resources to conspire but do what you can there is not enough room to plant the replacement trees despite the appellants frustration thats a fact we can look at planting trees with the passing the proposition we can plant more trees and way above 10 im here to work with the appellant smoke screen i dont know. I get contacted and is you got trees near this project tells you what is up are the trees good or bad we say those trees are volunteers that neglected lets remove them and repair the walk and room for one replacement tree thats where we are mr. Buck. I guess the funding has not hit for prop e. No prop e has hurdles a termination clause we need to wait a few more months. Do you have any information on what a the appellant mentioned about the sidewalk being expanded or widened. Yeah. He mentions one scenario for the site could be an expansion of that sidewalk a bought that will allow more trees to be planted there so well have to monitor this project and see what will happen. I saw his comment definitely removing parking he was talking about the sidewalk widened. The with only way introduce a bulb out no other way to widen that sidewalk at that location and the reason for not bringing the curve up is the cost the tree is the volunteer tree very Poor Condition poor structure up against the foundation felt wall that will cause foundation not a tree to pout resources on. A different tree in a different setting back well be for repairing the sidewalk and keeping the tree but expansion it will have to be a bulb out. I have a question mr. Buck. It is just this tree removal and sidewalk repair seems timing as to the bridge opening or not opening from the Public Comment this evening has there been a Sidewalk Repair Program in the neighborhood already i know that on my property i have marked on all the properties. I can check i can check there is multiple inspection programs. Im interested what caused this and theres been sidewalk repair why not marked prior to this bridge situation. I do know that the discussion about opening the bridge is what made the city departments look at the site what do we have we havent looked it in a while so it is really new to us the site like what is going on out there. Im concerned i mean in my neighborhood my sidewalk was marked for repair yet the full bloke in front of the Elementary School that didnt have a mark it belonged to the city. We prioritize schools and institutions heavy use. Thats the opposite of what i explained any walk was marched for a bit unevenness but the school had a 3 inch in front of the school left no marks. Sure thats largely due to cuts to urban forestry budget over the repeated years why weve relinquished trees to the Property Owners the Sidewalk Inspection Program is robust through the mapping and theyre going through systematically to all corners of city theyre not over cited for areas that are under cited as well i know that is being addressed. Okay. That really didnt answer any question but thats okay. Thank you thank you commissioners, the matter is submitted. Well, you building in conspire theories. So im absolutely not against the theory that mr. Buck advocated by my paranoia conspire theory or realty checked this project will be halfway down trees will be torn out the sidewalk will not be repaired or deeply appointed in perpetuity we might be doing a disservice while were trying to do if mr. Buck is right do the right thing so i a lot of feedback from commissioners on that conspiracconspiracy. Im a tree guy but the location is not appropriate at the same time the public has the ability to document and call 311 and since this particular case is elevated to the board of appeals ill imagine that department didnt want to come back here again, im for removing the trees as they are now. Is. You can condition. The demolition of the tree with the defying forgive plan to repair the sidewalk. Thats the director im going so would that be fine for the appellant with the condition. Grant the appeal and condition. That everything be done but not done until some perimeter are set. I have a smooek position that commissioner fung is sympathetic will be better in framing that motion. Im the with only one up here that walked the bridge as a kid. That was in 18 hundred. Yeah. Ill share that thought that you dont necessarily want to have something occur unless everything can be done at the same time ill make the motion to grant the appeal and condition the permit on the basis that the tree removal be tied to an active by the sidewalk replacement. Im not clear what definitive action for a date for the removal or have the trees removed within a certain timeframe when the sidewalk repair la took place. I would think that would be to allow the demolition of the trees when they redefinitively scheduled the sidewalk repair. Im sorry tree replacement. Im sorry were in closed session right now. Thank you. Okay. Commissioner fung the basis for that motion is is it for the least amount of disruption for the neighborhood . Yeah. I think that is partially that but ill add that it is also to allow the screening of the freeway to last as long as possible. Okay. So that motion from the Vice President to grant the appeal and upheld the permit on the condition the trees not removed until the sidewalk replacement has been skeleton and allow the screening the freeway to last as long as possible commissioner lazarus commissioner president honda commissioner wilson and commissioner swig thank you that motion carries with a vote of 5 to zero. Weve move on to item 6 david and france versus Public Works Bureau of street use and mapping on valencia on the issuance of 2016 to douglas construction of a minor encroachment permit with only now trash encroachment into the tiffany public rightofway well start with the appellant. You will have 7 minutes to be present your case. Welcome. Good evening, everybody my name is david i moved to San Francisco in 1980 my wife and i lived on tiffany for almost 13 years it is a small two bedrooms cottage drizzle facing planted are parents hood we believe the permit process was not followed on the permit application clearly states on the permit application. Overhead please. That a failure to follow the process will render the permit newly and void those are my reasons number one not notified that the shed was to be on tiffany avenue number 2 the applicant failed to schedule an inspection 72 hours for the procedures and number 3 the dpiechltsd of larger than specified on the permit application and number one in january 2016 we received a letter from dpw that a permit application was made for a minor public sidewalk encroachment and copies the permit applications the copy we were sent this is the notification we were sent the address on both was listed as 1650 valencia street no map or indication that the encroachment was on tiffany of any further questions directed to dpw mr. Whos Contact Number 415434 zero, zero 5 i clearly said we assumed a courtesy we were within one and 50 feet and the address list on the notification in any message he said since the bins the garbage bins westbound placed on valencia street this will not impact us i stated in the enclosure on tiffany well objectivity i received no response from dpw thus, we all assumed right structure was to matrix on valencia street from the respondents briefs we learned this was in planning over one year 12 they never included the residents in the plans the notification we are received in january did in the include any indication the closer was an tiffany on douglas construction on page 5 the respondents were notified is a fabrication residents of 86 i didnt didnt receive a notification of the structure was actual to be on tiffany no. Nothing from douglas construction in description no map no pictures if they sent it to us why no copy of that in their exhibits if douglas construction submit a map, etc. To dpw that was not forwarded to us either we received a copy of the permit application both listed the address and 1650 valencia street one thinks the mapping will include a map or actual address speaking of mapping an inspection of dpws exhibit g illustrating the alleged lack of space in front of the the parenthood the alleged lack of space is miss labeled 1660 is the premise 1650 very hard to read on the premise to the extreme left the premise that is labeled 1650 is actually 140 well show if you look at the location of the tree and the curve the bulb out it is that is the tree there thats on the boarder line of their property we have photographs to illustrate that if we have time to show the footage of theyre building 14 square foot the rontsdz failed to have an inspection 72 hours per the procedures it states on the permit application that failure will render this permit newly and void it was they told me this violation was grounds for a hearing referring to the douglas construction brief on page 5 quote this is what they said we skipped the inspection and a site visit would have been a pointless waste of time since douglas thought it was unimportant went ahead and built the shed i find it, it is clearly stated on the permit application my third Point Douglas built the shed larger than specified 9 foot by 3 foot 6 by 6 feet sorry 6 feet two instead they built that 5 by 7 foot two 6 inches wider this is the illustration of their a structure with smaller structure a hazard even the height of a trash can someone can hide we have photographs of the dumping this blights our neighborhood and compromises the health and safety of the neighbors and ill take this moment to show you some photographs this is a photograph of the front of the clinic where you can see the edge from the bought is to the right there which is over the Property Line they have the space to the left thats another photograph of im sorry your time is up. May i ask a question. Sure. What was there before there was a shed. Nothing. Nothing. Plan wall. And i knew the answer he wanted to make that clear for the record. What was planned parenthood why now a shed whats the justification. The justification they wanted to put their garbage can a garbage enclosure that was on valencia with all the adjacent businesses on that block went on valencia street they built this shed like i said, we lived within one hundred and 50 feet behind the building when we got the notification we assumed where they always put their garbage cans that makes a lot of sense but on tiffany avenue to please let us know well object to that. Madam director is 24 before us i remember the homeless encampment behind the tree and the parking lot and the building to the rossi havent been on any boards in the last 4 years. I dont recall that. We have an appeal on a similar type of report. Okay. Okay. Thank you so last question is your house frontals into tiffany. Yes, sir. We live on tiffany at the end house on tiffany. Are you directly. Were directly across from planted parenthood i have photographs of the behind if i may add we welcomed them to the neighborhood and been very Good Neighbors i suggested to them at the time they put in lights and video camera. Because of thank you, thank you. Okay. Thank you. Well hear from the permit holder now. Thanks if anything my voice. I assume youve read the brief. State your name for the record. Benjamin smith. Thank you. Without being redundant ill try to be short you know the permit process was followed and dpw was strict about that theres an outside organization that doesnt most of delivery there maybe youre familiar with them i think what happened and not limited to speculation the neighbors saw the address and assumed and didnt read the description it is right on there so you know i dont think theyre trying to i saw what went out it is on there so theres a comment about the process with respect to the inspection uniquely this is true this is unusual i had Staff Members from dpw and public works and Code Enforcement we met onsite and talked about that with the director of the center and you know they were just there so, yes its true i didnt schedule the preinspection, of course, before it was finalize and with that would have about catch up none of that matters the permit was voided because of the initially appeal process they threw out the permit saying you have to make that smaller and do this and add a camera and all this stuff that he was automatically put on hold pending the outcome of this hearing i think that is a technicality the 72 hours inspection thing i should have called i sent an email admittedly theyve just been there i was not going to ask them to look at the same sidewalk in the same pictures a short time later nothing to see that is a technicality and ive not violated that permit with any lack of inspection i think the issue is whether or not you know this thing should exist in the context of you guys looking at the situation moving forward so you know again, you read the brief weve been cited for multiple times with trash no where to put 2 Planning Department agreed weve had there and over and over again no where to put it 24 way well lock it up i dont know po want to trash a trash enclobber in front of any door either this is upsetting but got to matrix somewhere i think that most people agree that that make sense to have a trash someplace to contain the trash someplace to lock it up and i think an important point at the risk of negative incendiary waugs while the trash closure now on their street they dont want it obviously i want you to you upgrading uphold the decision. I have a question i dont know why ive heard this case before but why not put your trash inside of our own building. Theres no where to put it a tiny closest. How large is your building per Square Footage wise. Id like to guessed the whole ground floor is the Health Center examine rooms i mean. I dont think you have a one street to another street and two levels . Is there one level or two. The entire building is two stories. 3 thousand square feet i dont know ill be guessing. The other question sir, that the dimensions that the appellant mentioned where it required space did you guys over build as per the original preempt. Yes. So okay. Thank you that was im sure well not get away making that any bigger. Well hear from the department now. Mr. Cowen. Good evening, commissioners and the Board Members im brent cowen the here representing the department of public works ill be present a brief overview for the permit im sorry ms e zero, zero 7 for the trash enclosure for the fronting of the property on 1550 valencia and ill try to address some of the comments from the appellant the department applicant had received a recommendation to apply for the minor encroachment in october 2017 after a assessment by the Planning Department and Public Works Bureau streets and Environmental Services the applicant applied for the minor encroachment permit on january 2016 public works reviewed the site and determined the proposed proposal was in general compliance with the code and current policy for the proposed track enclosure encroachments and public rightofway on january 27, 2016, public works had the 10 day public notification no written objections were filed during the application period and permit was approved on february 19, 2016, construction on the trash enclosure began in 2016 due to complaints and due to the neighborhood complaints that the notification was not clear and the applicant began prior before the inspection public works issued a correction nose and scheduled a public hearing public works public hearings held on june 2016 on august 26, 2016, public works issued dpw order with the decorators decision from the hearing the permit was conditioned as follows Condition One reduce the enar closer no more than with an foot creating a viability for a smaller blight which are the primary concerns doesnt mention the dimensions on the permit had been followed condition two the finish of new trash enclosure with the stucco finish allowing for more aesthetic appeal and condition 3 proper eliminations on the trash enclosure shall be permitted by the dwp and condition four planned parenthood remove all debris and garbage and or human waste and deposit on top of the walls or in any other area adjacent to the trash enclosure within the frontage in a period no longer 72 hours after it occurs and condition 5 relocation of the encroachment permit for the codes maybe an option bans the types of complaints and violations and from the complaints and trash violations are valid the following sorry following the directors decision a new permit was generated to replace the permit because it was previously recorded at the City Recorders Office this is to replace following sorry the permit was issued sorry not issued sorry let me start over the permit was not approved and suspended pending the depreciation by the board today and im sorry and respectfully recommends the board of appeals uphold the departments decision. We all have questions sir what is the notification requirement for bs m. The minor encroachment permit one hundred and 50 notice for 10 calendar days. Do owners and tenants or just owners. Typically i believe owners. Owners . How often has a minor sidewalk encroachment permit been issued for a structure on the sidewalk. Well, i mean we issue them for pretty much any encroachment that is and can you issue for a partial door swing. We issue them for benches. So for a structure. We issue them for trash encloser therefore when the Planning Department and the bureaucracy the streets and Environmental Services determine it there is no space on the property thats when we move forward with that and let the applicant apply for that permit there are instances people apply for the trash encloser and determine they have room on the property we deny that. Have access to your database. Not currently no. Not here. No. Yep. So im looking at the notice to the Property Owners and im looking at the permit and they call say 1550 valencia street. The permit is issued to the property address an oversight we didnt include the specific address on the notice but following the complaint we did follow our current process of having a public hearing once we received that complaint so someone getting the notice through will video no idea where it is actually going. It will be fronting that property not specifically frontage correct. Different street. Go ahead. No. Ive a question i mean, the structure is built to the wrong dimensions supposed to be stuccoed and the wrong material ply board directly. But got the plywood hitting the concrete and nonmaterial and a ton of trash on the pictures right here im having an issue how the the department feels that they can allow someone to use the public rightofway they dont center the space in their particular building i mean id like to put a big old thing in front of any house. We had conditions from the hearing you know all those pictures are from after that i mean public works has been out there as a department but not our group has not been out there to respond to that but i refer to the applicant to respond that to kind of question. Okay. Any other questions. In terms of cleanliness. I think were good thank you. We can take Public Comment. Before we matrix there does planning have anything to say. Okay. I have a question what the heck you you know. Welcome tait. So a building basically got built in the rightofway this is a planning atrocity. It is different if you move garbage cans out in front of a building to be picked up every tuesday but encroaching in the public rightofway and then the fact that the building as admitted by the project sponsor that was built beyond the scope of the permit and discovered whether or not it is finished not with the materials that it was supposed to be that you have a question there. Where doesnt planning come in on that is that our job to make sure both public works didnt abuse the public trust. Im sorry this is exactly in the planning code but just specifically about the permitting authority obviously the public rightofway is out of purview generally speaking of the planning code and the theoretician of the Planning Department and Planning Commission generally the public rightofway is regulate by code and department such public works and mta so thats why the permitting process in this case is through dpw not through the Planning Department it is their permit their process their notification their authority to approve or deny an encroachment sometimes concern encroachments require a referral there are triggers for this this is not triggering that note a general plan referral. What will trigger that, please. I dont have the exact dimensions my understanding is that if it is actually like more of a physical extension as opposed to to a standalone feature and work with the sidewalk such as ramps and stairs as opposed to to this stand alone this project didnt require the Planning Department if have a former role with that said, there is coordination between public works and the Planning Department with urban design group from the grant they offer the input on the overall design i know in 2, 3, 4 situation our urban design team was consulted if it is valencia or tiffany i believe they were perennial to construction on valencia street and also the amount of other kind of encroachments on valencia street and so they supported between those two putting it on tiffany instead of valencia helped to support the overall site but again that was kind of a consumption as opposed to to any authority we dont have authority on whether or not it is approved or not. Shall we move on to Public Comment. Yes. Well get back with you. Sir. Public comment, sir. Please step forward. Hello my name is gabriel im the senior public officer for planned parenthood. Your time to pack was with the permit holder anyone. Were not the permit holder their acting as our agent there will be 3 minutes for rebuttal if you want to share if it with them. Oh, okay. Good evening, commissioners im david commissioner president honda i appreciate your time a resident of 86 i didnt after a block away not at the end of the street im here to oppose this use and i opposed it as well as yesterday and a neighborhoods 12 of my neighbors and one business that im circulating a letter and speaking on behalf of of them were opposed to this for two primary reasons Public Safety and security as each of you alluded to and prioritization of a public rightofway planned parenthood rents this they knew how much space and hopefully, theyll planned to know theyll have a place for garbage that garbage belongs inside if i had the opportunity to put might garbage on the street maybe ill have more room for any storage of my personal abhorrences and in addition the location of this is can i have the overhead, please . It is not ideal with a heavy street canopy the street lights dont penetrate the sidewalk as you can see it creates a hiding area for people and since being built a lot of having ranlt i walk by this twice and day and weekends with my 10yearold daughter under its current condition ill not quack on this side of the street a creates a dark hiding Planning Commission in in this area this business operated without it in excess of 3 thousand square feet within attire facility and allowing this sets a bad precedence if anyone not to put their garbage on the street well allow that that takes from the public rightofway i think encroachment for cafe zones and thing that activate the streets are grant planned parenthood is a Good Neighbor equip this is this a bad idea maybe on valencia i oppose the public rightofway but at least more foot traffic and lighting and at fair front door not my front door or neighbors front door. Thank you. I have a question a homeless issue on that block as well. Im sorry fred who he was earlier here called contacted 311, 21 times since this encroachment for issues related to vandalism and homelessness and asked me to pass on his response since this was built. Thank you. Any other Public Comment. Okay. Seeing none we have rebuttal starting with the appellant. My name is france. Ive been a residence of San Francisco for 25 years about 10 years ago we and may neighbors an tiffany formed a Neighborhood Watch for gardeners we were successful and tiffany is a cleaner and safer place that was prior to parents hood moving in the clinics had e have the benefits when the trash enclosure was built it rolled back the progress there is duvenlg graffiti and defecation and Sexual Activity and Public Camping due to the blind spot see exhibit g it has blighted our street the clinic is not diligent a number 311 calls if i compare the 311 calls youll see a spike in submissions as the enclosure has a prim spot for dumping construction is their response theyve cleaned up around the area they have not this is a spray paint over graffiti the camps put their lock on it and stored a mattress on top of the roof it is to the residents to contact 311 and the City Services clean up the mess it is outofsight out of mind the trash enclosure is for the clinic they dont see the problems and go home the respondents had is about supporting our efforts the local businesses and dpw should be making the area better for everyone instead were not included in the planning process and not following their own processes and what happens this is sdimg and feces and public urination tea they dont respond people dont feel safe and dont walk on that side of the street i opened my door and a man exposing himself next to the shed putting stucco and paint are superficial measures not make an unsafe area safe theyre known start for esteem i thought why a blind spot on a resident street no other responsibility live on tiffany avenue and dont see the republic concussion of their decisions and supervisor Wiener Office planned to leave in two years why do we have to pay the price and well be stuck with the enclosure. Thank you. Thank you well hear rebuttal from the permit holder. Hello gabriel with planted parenthood im happy to be here to answer our questions he know the discussion was that why not store our trash benefit inside as a matter of fact the planned parenthood serves over 15 thousand people every year in an incredible small space the top floor is the clinic and the second floor but might understanding an enclosure weve within united for our trash bins out front and needs to be a resolution obviously the health and safety of our implies our staff and community is number one we are here we may not sleep will there but our Health Centers open over 12 hours a day for 4 days a week and open on the wednesday having our clients in and out and staff is of importance safely we have installed lights when we first moved in and cameras and happy to work two the dpw hearing saying they like us to install more lights more cameras were happy to do that we want to work with the community and want to work with dpw he can assure you, we are you know we care about this community through there is a rampant homeless problem in the city of San Francisco were doing our best weve seen the pictures a lot of overhang and growth the burgerer king next door youre referring to something that happened at some point an appeal that was potentially an or closer 24 the burgerer king parking lot to the right of us has 4r506s overhang and attracts a lot of homelessness and has for years as well as they have an enclosure kept our enclosure locked someone cut our lock and put their own on we asked them to leave and put our lock back on and we are vigilant and whether continue. I have a question. How long is your lease at the property. Im not sure i will is that we are going to be there i dont want to say well leave any time soon. You renegotiated a lease. Were current in a lease but i dont know about the expiration we have no reason to leave. Theres a burgerer king parking lot adjacent to the property did you try negotiate with putting a structure. Theyve not been miff thats their property theyve not been supportive. Okay. He think. I appellants stated in their brief that planted parenthood of excuse me the receipt of this property has not been responsive to them you want to comment on that. I do thank you. Ive been very responsive ive usually the one getting the calls and emails i its my job and duty to respond as quickly as possible most of emails come sunday night with pictures of feces we have angle internal policy to clean up graffiti and trash within twentyfour hours to 48 hours i want to say that the appellant has yelled at the staff about being bad neighbors and like to ask any complaints come to me and not my health care staff. Thank you. Thanks. We can hear rebuttal from the department. Good evening commissioners public works outreach and enforcement im responsible for managing the division that enforces the trash and where they can store their bins wife issued them violations in violation of side code we conducted the site visit with the members of the department of health and the environment we reviewed the space no Available Space within the building for the garbage bin storage the Health Department is opposed to use this for private trash closure ive been on thirty to 40 site visits as approved permits this is a unique situation and the Health Department was in support of the enar closer built on tiffany side as well the i wanted to clarify the structure that was built out there currently is not what public works will be approving based on the order so all of the pictures and everything of it yeah, the reason as halted because of the hearings and everything so thankful not been allowed to do any work i wanted to clarify. Part of the progress. I want to let him finish. Are you finished. Yeah. Yeah. What weve determined is that the contractor which and might as well been planned parenthood i hate to accuse them built a structure not according to the plan and weve learned beans something we dont have the benefit of or a problem with that it doesnt work it is a magnet for bright to try inbarf. The existing structure will not be allowed to stand as is. It is appropriate therefore to revisit dpw to revisit this as youre already doing as it seems under another permit and do it right and move it to the appropriate location and create the appropriate. Thats why were here. Commissioner swig the permit on appeal is for a structure different than the one that is built but the second permit is issued thats what is appealed. Im not sure ive heard. Thats why were here and the right location or anything that right about it. Thats up to the board to decide yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I have a question for the other gentleman of the department when you say youve done 40 or something youve done full enclosure are you talking about garbage surrounded by a fence. The camp cant be visible from the public rightofway and commissioner president honda mentioned resident and businesses dont of the their bins with an the envelope of the Building Space they request to apply for a permit the agreement what the Planning Department to do a site visit for any. You said that how many have walls and a roof of those that youve done. Because the bins are not allowed to be visible the enclosure has a obscure that from plain views walls high enough to obscure the bins and a roof will present unauthorized assess from people not allowed to scale the bins. Of those how many are roofs. The Planning Departments has allowed 3 applications to move forward. And 40 is an estimate between thirty and 40 site visits the vast Majority Center to store within their backyard, etc. Thank you commissioners, the matter is submitted. Who wants to start. I think that is unfortunate in the first place that the occupant of the space did terrible planning not to realize they have garbage and therefore force the public into this situation thats water under the bridge and thats unfortunate and water under the bridge but i think it is our role here to take the data that is already available to us which are the photos when a when are the clear experiences of the neighbors have observed and do something positive they may not like what well end up with and mitigate what is already happened either by using the experience and adjusting the permit, or not allowing the structure at all i dont think that possible because well have garbage cans. It is possible. It is possible. If we deny this permit. So ill start after i think one this is terrible im useable to keep a straight face during this case ive not be able to i dont know anyone that wanted to walk by a stirring in the public rightofway that someone what hide from and pop out at any given time thats me as a document and as a parent it is a travesty this was approved that is a health and safety issue if youre not able i understand that maybe youre not able to handle our trash in your space at which point look for another space being a Business Owner i had to wheel my twresh trashing and during the daytime thats the way we did it im personally going to accept the appeal thats my thoughts. I cant remember which ive seen on approval for a minor street encroachment permit to do a structure like this and im talking about for many decades within the city structure i believe that the department erred with respect to the right under the minor street encroachment process and this permit should be revoked. Would you you like to make a motion commissioner. No further comment. Nun from me. Move to revoke the permit on the basis that the department erred in issuing a minor street encroachment preliminary for the structure on the public rightofway. A motion to grant the ideal and row revoke on the basis that the department erred in issuing the permit to use the public rightofway on that motion commissioner lazarus commissioner hondas commissioner wilson and commissioner swig okay. That monoxide that motion carries with the vote of 5 to zero and move to the next item item 7 appeal versus the department of buildibreak. Were going to call the item 7 versus the citibuild on 2085 and 89 broderick street appealing of an alteration permit for the structural addition of a new deck and stair and start with the appellant tell me greg how do you show something on the street. His name a gary not greg. Oh, i see im on broderick street next door neighbor to the permit holder you granted a variance a few weeks ago i say the construction had begun and we never received any structural notification that is required by city code i want to depend upon screening and issued a request the work be stopped and notification for neighbors one and 50 feet he strongly support mr. Yeagers support and desire to center a deck i was one of the ones that suggested since a backstair case to center a deck identical 0 ours weve been there over 50 years the previous owner barbara was there and built the stares that are currently there and what happened was with when i came around to the place a if you weeks ago they started the construction and planned out the piers you could see the extent of the project i am one of the people he cant visualize a plan but once laid out i see that our four lots broderick and filbert and union is filed with Historic Homes their Historic Resources from the bay tradition time and i was that of those 1906 and theyre short lots 80 feet deep only the rest are between one plus and the filbert does it all the housing from the presidio for the northern caucasian members of the presidio in the 19 century and required to live on filbert street that is what the going on the deck is almost the entire backyard it is left about 5 feet of backyard it means that theyre between 6 and 7 percent of lot is dedicated to a backyard yet our historic quadrant is filed with a very lush open spaces between the homes going with the entire quadrant i will show you now our deck which was built over 50 years and as you can see the deck is basically 5 feet and you see an indemnification it is identical that mr. Yeager has with a bay window if you take the broadest point of the bay window to the house it is exactly a foot theyre also the same that was built so essentially our deck 4 foot 7 and the railings another 5 inches is 5 feet so this is what is it looks like basically from the backyard i dont know if this is you can see it is close to building 5 feet there is a backyard of will 17 feet remaining so that our deck allows the backyard of 17 feet to remain on the premises what happens now is that the entire backyard is basically filed and heres the construction site and as you can see the fence is right here and the whole deck now you see is staircase that staircase is the original staircase of mr. Yeager that barbara built and it is 5 feet if you extend it will be the same as everybody else a backyard and deck that will work everybody on the street has a deck but our proportionally if you look at our lots theyre so small if you stick to a proportion ratio between the deck and backyard you dont have any open space the most recently building that has the deep i did lot of one and 35 feet built a deck 36 inches, 3 feet across what happened to us is that were on the right is the white head property broderick that will come up for an injury trial an march 6 and mr. Yeager were locked in with a small lot and no repressive why not scale back a little bit of the staircase and the deck to that in fact, out have a deck and enjoy it and well have light and air for the lower flat he said that basically, he of time if he spends money on the deck he wants the biggest bank for the bucky he is entitled to get the most but a year ago we called our hallow association and called in the neighbors and with his architect and us all sit down and see if we can work this out how she gracely met with her and the neighbors but not us so we have left at this point really without a resource or recourse to revisit with you and show you now youre seeing the layout of the deck and the extent that covers the backyard not not scale back a little bit and live together with his neighbors why cant we have a little bit of open space next to us this is enormous it goes from the ground floor all the way down to the top floor think of a fire escape built all the way up all im asking is we are were supportive but scale it back and live with your neighbors thats basically the issue. Thank you. Well hear from the permit holder now. My name is michael you really dont care aim the cosponsor owner with mike jones and members of the board of appeals i appreciate your hearing this tonight as weve done this before our view is that obviously the permit appeal should be denied and the permit orientated was valid the permit should have no standing since the permit appeals are exactly the same and those reconfirmed the variance appeal rehearing the Building Department says the permit race valid, however, for some reason the Building Department didnt send out the notice to the neighbors and this created a hardship for the permit holder we knowing the situation waited for the appeal period to inspire before ord our materials that should have been completed by winter in the brief he went over what the gentlemans comments hes told a lot of untruths about this entire process the permit was issued a long time ago it not true we filed in 2013 but irving has been involved sins 2013 he was a Structural Engineer we didnt submit the plans until we had his sign off in 2013 and the spiral staircase was not allowable i met for 4 or 5 months to get hes sign off hes been fighting with the other neighbors i agreed to sign off one located with the code compliant with the possibility farther Property Line opposite his and confirmed in an eel part of the variance appeal we resubmitted and there was an issue with the nose he was given an extra thirty day special review period he couldnt make a comment because immediately when he heard he said no notice he met with him in 52015 he brought the plans i submitted the second time those are the last plans he approved and you know what was he doing those are the plans that were submitted he said i want additional concessions i want you to make the decks different a bay window on the first story and not the second story i knew that irving will not sign off and initially not going through the sign off hes its been to costly and disaster us why for him barbara bought the property in the 1970s there was no preempt appealing for renovating were the only house on the block that is mother renovated their rear deck and stairs because of iveing ive taken it on were taking this seriously an abuse of public process so weve gone way beyond working with irving and no to the neighbors that have concerned everybody is part of a process we take seriously building a deck and honoring the issue is the code compliant stairs under the current code embedded in the deck to deal with the 3 foot exiting at the registration of the deck irving is right didnt make sense to build a bay window but totally wrong that will fill the entire lot we have glass on is upper floor and it will be open on the stairwells and if you take a look at the lot the 4 lots hes talking about the corner lot is actually built to the corner in back lot a garbage with a deck above and the second a sad story a woman owned that and irving is fighting with her, she had to sell her house to a friend to rebuild he riled all the neighbors against her and shes also building into the backyard the variance was required because those houses are to old we take is this seriously if you look at the picture he put up the footsing are for the code compliant stairs so we applied with the revised platoon mr. Sanchez through june of this year then reroute to the building in august the permit was received august 24th we waited until the end of september and didnt know the notice didnt go out were just trying to renovate our stairs that is half constructed and a hazard and the permit holder feels this process has been kind of ridiculous but shouldnt be standing for on appeal because the plans are the same as submitted for the variances thank you. Thank you mr. Duffy. Good evening commissioners joe duffy dbi the permits under appeal i think youve heard it into the gentleman and the permit holder the permit got issued for the deck and due to the dbi error rerealized after contract by the gentleman we didnt had had structural notification that is required by the San Francisco Building Code so in the interest of fairness we would dr. Have gotten an appeal on the original permit anyway, we want to give the gentleman anyone else for that matter their opportunity for the notification so the only way to do that issue this Building Permit under appeal the permit has been properly issued we did the notification as long as we issued the permit and got the appeal the work on the previous scope of work on the deck appears to be code compliant i dont have any issues im looking at the plans on the computers here it is a standard deck that we see a lot in San Francisco. And im available for any questions. Those im sorry does it match what was submitted previously. According to the drawings there this was a modification to the stairs original a spiral and changed to a the regular stair landing configuration. But in terms of with the width of the deck. It appears to be yes you know, i think the permit holder has the drawings there was no drawings in the brief if so hard to tell i see an approved set of the drawings stepson thats my question thank you. This appeal against dbi but if i like you can convict the Zoning Administrator no. Okay. Let them off. Only if we wants to only if you have a question. Like we tell everybody and korea from planning. You dont get up here often. In the interest of time i was not going to you is but i have at past information on the permits and variance if youre interested im available. Okay. No Public Comment and no public here well go back into rebuttal gentleman if you have anything further. The deck was built by mrs. Williams before barbara weve been there over 50 years and barbara did redo the entire staircase their reasonably within the last 20 years at any rate i show you that the question that is before us is what is approved there right now and what exists is leaves 94 percent of lot totally built up i dont know what the criteria for doing that 09 people in the quadrant came in and said we want a much larger deck we have larger lots they can come in with a 20 foot deck some are numerous but the plan for that part of cal hallow to have a greenbelt thats why people buy homes there and live for decades at this point i dont understand what is the necessity of having such a deep deck to the fence of Property Line why cant say there be a deck that is scaled back youve never be able to an an 80 foot lot get what you get when you have one and 35 foot lot, of course not those that have those kinds of lots stuck to a 3 foot deck i dont understand what are we left to do go to court and now have a San Francisco injure it didnt make sense is there a necessity is there a fairness issue how do i have to use the same criteria foreclose everyone in the quadrant youll say some people can build 94 percent of lot and others cant whats the basis no explanation here it is this is precisely what the deck is we also have a spiral staircase that is 36 inches wide the same as his and a 7 foot space for a garden i dont think so why this is going on heres a 17 foot garden behind the deck i dont understand it it anymore. Thank you. Mr. Yeager rebuttal . So the deck is not covering 94 percent it is a bay window that is one foot and a half no spiral case on the favorites Property Line so i think this is what were arguing is you know irving and i will end up in court do the right thing at the end of the day and this is what it is thats what it is this was reasonable this was also the plan and we worked for this for years in the reasonable right we take the greenbelt seriously when the permit was valid we did the appropriate foots and had them inspected and i6ing said you dont have a permit and in his claim to give us a red tag so much falsehood it is hard to separate but at the end of the day one the issues that code compliant stairs a requirement weve taken great papers to put those as far away from irving one of the mitigating factors you know we went through the variance process that was upheld and this is in my view an unsubstantive appeal the plans are the same theres a lot of falsehoods that are put fort thank you. Thank you. I want to commend you for keeping our composure. Mr. Duffy. Commissioners joe duffy dbi i actually was going to say the same thats what i came up to say mr. Yeager was anger with us but he settled down he got issued a notice of violation stop work order he had a good permit because of the error we stopped him we had a good discussion and realized what had happened i want to thank him when youre working and we stop you because of our error it is not a good situation he was good about that the stairway will meet the Building Permit not a spiraling staircase you need that stair on the plans and i think that is the issue with that going into further into the yard thank you. Thank you. Okay commissioners, the matter is submitted. Eejs to start im trying to contain myself also with with all due respect to mr. Duffy if no mistake there would be no basis for being here im happy extort of short of an additional discussion to make a motion deny the appeal and uphold that was properly issued. Okay. Thank you. On that motion motion on the basis it was properly issued commissioner fung commissioner president honda commissioner wilson and commissioner swig and thank you that motion carries and commissioner president honda before you younger the meeting we want to recognize this is our deputy City Attorney last meeting weve been fortunate to have him assistant him and thank him on behalf of the board for his service for us and the city. Yes. Your awesome exactly. Your freely to tune in on wednesday nights to watch. He start with 10. Theres no further business. Okay. Thank good morning my name is allen im the competitive for the Probation Department honor and privilege to welcome you to the jungle hall that facility was opened in 2007 we moved from an 88 bed worn down delipidated facility to this one and 50 bed facility we occupy at a point the city and county struggled with overcrowding in the facility by april of 2008 the newly opted out facility exceeded the one and 50 bid capacity that same year the average daily population in Juvenile Hall was one and 23 we knew we could do better and the interventions were more effective than keeping kids it custody as a result the city embarked on a aggressive journey for the program see to serve as alternates to santa fe tension at the same time our juvenile justice shareholders 1r69d in Collaborative Partnership and Strategic Focus on the needs of youth and the families we serve depiction programs and Evening Reporting Centers and electronic referrals to Community Agencies all coupled with evidence based supervision resulted in the drama reduction in the number of youths referred to the juvenile system and those detained in Juvenile Hall last year our average daily population in juvenile halting hall was 56 now 45 youths in the facility and half of the units are unoccupied with the sequence reduce to alltime lows we want to repurpose the facility to address the root causes that bring youth into the jewel just system among them the many Adverse Childhood Experiences that shaped their values and dudes and beliefs and circumstances ultimately marketrateism in criminal conduct in the community the merit center the first of those initiative opportunity were excited to showcase today if we provide our youth with the matter of fact and support to change their barf and teach them the skills to steady in school at home and in the workplace we wont see them reenter the center and recuse recidivism further this merit center within jewel hall provides the youth with recreational opportunities to which we earn access by their completion of school work, active participation in unit programs and positive social conduct with peers and adults we like to thank the Unified School District the department of health the Public Library our jewel Probation Commission the bus project Sunset Youth Services city youth now and all the stakeholder persons for their generous support of the new center i also want to especially acknowledge director louis and the staff of the jewel hall for their hard work to open the center in addition to mayor lees remarks this morning youll hear from judge supervisor judge of the superficial and mr. Joe president of the jewel probation and following the remarks of speakers well show one of the vacate unit before we procedure down the hall to the marries center for a Ribbon Cutting ceremony im pleased and hoirnd to introduce the may mayor of that great City Wholesale ununderstanding work shaped the program and encouraged our Creative Ideas to further expand our Services Without further delay the honorable mayor ed lee please. clapping. thank you allen for that introduction your hour and commissioner and thank you to the staff you know, i guess my First Impression we come a long ways it used to be certainly when i came to the city it was all about confinement and isolation over many years and now as allen counterfeited the part and parcel weve had to create we really understand how much of a vinyl we had to create you know that goes back to the saying takes a village it takes a village to change kind of the behavioral in the way we feel proud of each other and more so than any other period of time that is when investing in our kids rather than the oldfashioned punishment and hopefully, theyll learn punishment confinement, isolation, have never been Great Teachers of changing that barf it is the village of support the merit stwrm, the attempt to identify what motivates the human barf in a different way to reimagine this center our Juvenile Justice Center no longer do you are refer to as a jewel detention but the jewel center but more importantly to have the money for people that are concerned about the change of barf and what cased people to come here to suggest we can have the best minds and practices right here to help people and motivate them into a different direction that works it is not just that we have less youth although i think that is as an incredibly piece of data but also how we measure how people are changing less violation a greater collaboration, and i also will never forgot the father and mother fact we have great partnerships leak hustling berry youth in the community to you make sure we are doing our best we cant just put it on folks he on detention facilities and put if on programs we have to intervene and understand the circumstances symptom their historic and sometimes years of abuse sometimes their reflection of what we can do to reinforce you are care for many of the youth that may come from very, very deft backgrounds im sure the commission understands going case by case sometimes pain staing to understand what families are going through and lack of a family is a truer circumstance we learn from each other not to be solely dont think but a holistic approach to what we want to have happen and as a result and then hold ourselves accountable we need our young people belief theyre in a society to be more successful and get them out of the danger and harming themselves and each other they get into a system where that barf can be reinforced for what we want to see happen that takes a lot of effort by a lot of people at different stages of peoples lives judicial based obviously enforced by our jewel Law Enforcement that joins this i come not to only cut a ribbon but reflective on a better understanding of the city what it takes to change peoples lives for the better and reinforce is a structure that perhaps if we had properly invested in many of the parts of society we might be better off we didnt we allowed lots of families to get to poverty holes in the city im trying to do in other areas rebuilding Public Housing and commissioner norton we know is evidence of violation getting kids jobs and careers giving a path forward and helping families reunite and helping the kids off the streets and into a better situation are part of elements of a great city but today, we focus on what happens here when the kids are brought here and how we can not just use confinement and punishment and isolationism and think that will help but that we actually use the best of your yadz and try to motivate people to a better direction and give life reinforcing skill sets to invest in themselves at the same time i want to applaud all the elements we put together into the staff at allen leads and i know a lot of you know we always give credit but allen youre the leader i appreciate the work with staff you kept me informed and any staff informed i want to say thank you to the commission that hears those cases appeal and otherwise and some of the horrible stories of the people and the judicial system more and more it is not about just dismissing citations not but how we use the ability to capture someones attention but not capture them physically but give them an opportunity to move forward we believe in San Francisco and in the values that we uphold it gets tested here we have less but also upon release people getting back to their families and communities and places where we want to be and having that reinforced in our onion communicated society we have back up programs so that what has learned cant think unlearned thats positive replacement this is what happens at the Juvenile Justice Center im happy it on up not merit based program that can work but that were also not foolish enough to think i have to fund the people and keep them motivates because people that do this day to day a base have a reason tobacco depressed you see that over and over and over again, thats is life and in a great city of San Francisco we motivate everyone to a higher level to make sure that the positive things we do truly want to believe this city is for and we can be a beacon to many other areas of our country perhaps that have not learned what that is to motivate people have is learn and until that well teach anothers this is what this merit system will allow us to learn from it and do better and the best example is kids and the quality of life 31 they will lead and be part of a Great Society so all of i want to say thank you very much for your intervention, your participation, your leadership and reminding me as the mayor and the board that we have obligations well beyond the budget, well beyond the immediate things that come before us we have to be holistic to what happens 2509 skids and families congratulation and allen to the entire staff for creating and now we get to sustain a great example thank you. clapping. good morning. My name is joe joe the supervisor judge of the family court an honor to be here im not say much more mr. Mayor you said it all ill add it is not just a village but comprised of people that care about the youth and community and future and i impasse the values of San Francisco mr. Mayor youve been supportive of program of the court. Thank you for your kind remarks allen youve been a phenomenal leader in juvenile probation and all the commissioners that help and guide us thank you but to everyone as partners in the Public Defenders Office jean from the District Attorneys Office, conflicts council all the jewel probation everyone that works in the program really cares about children you cant you cant sustain the caring and compassion i want to thank everyone and mayor for your support cleaver and keep any remarks under a minute there we go thank you clapping. thank you. I wont take long either i want to first time start off by threatening mayor ed lee and chief and the others folks weve its been a Long Time Coming i was a member of the city family when we had you know over one hundred youths in the facility and thanks to the contribution over the years through the budget process by the mayor and the board of supervisors consistently funding the department making sure it has the resources here we go i want to put this in perspective a city of nine hundred thousand with 45 facilities is striking and as you know, representing the commission i want to say that we dont want to rest on that laurels those 4 are here we need to address do root causes why theyre herethorax he applaud the department for thinking outside the box thinking of ways to connect with the youth whether taking them sailing or camp mather bringing in folks for expression of poetry and things were trying to do to correct connect the youth so they dont ends up here again and those thefdz of thinking outside the box are helpful as we you know move forward today with the Ribbon Cutting of merit center the commission strongly supports the efforts of the department and will doing everything we can to make sure that we continue to drive down that number and really help the youth thank you very much. clapping. so we will now proceed next door where you will have an opportunity to briefly see one of the existing units for who dont know the units and precede to the merit center where the Ribbon Cutting will our. Ill count down everybody 3, 2, 1 clapping. something you guys cooked up in here does if ring a belthat ring a b . You. Well to the epic center are you ready for the next earthquake did you know if youre a renter you can get earthquake shushes well take to the earthquake authorities hi welcome to another episode im the chief resilience officer for San Francisco im joined by my good friends for the Earthquake Authority were at the el cap center for the city and county of San Francisco started in 2013 to get the community and talk about the risk we think about earthquake if usual great city youll see one of the demonstrates weve built the model home and i encourage other episodes well be retroactively retrofitting and showing you as Property Owners to employ you work for the california Earthquake Authority talk about your role and earthquake shirnls up think the viewers want to know if youre a renter or Property Owner how the insurance issues. Im the chief mitigation officer or c e a a Property Line funded pubically managed entity that provides earthquake shiners for one to four units and mobile owners to come down and renters throughout the state of california. What make the c e a deft. We work with 19 participates the insurer that sells you, your homeowner policy youre not obligated to buy it but you can buy a policy. Am i covered with Homeowners Insurance. No California Homeowners understand their Homeowners Insurance doesnt cover earthquake they need a separate policy if youre an shiners you can get the earthquake insurance policy. So explain why it is for the c e a is deft if a traditional insurance agency. Irreverent so in the 80s the state of california passed a law that requires any company that writes the policies to over earthquake insurance the homeowners are not required by commissioner cranshaw can bye there was so much loss they were going to stop writing the insurance policies for earthquakes they wanted to stop a serious insurance policy. Were talking about the homeownerships buying the earthquake shiners but 70 percent are renters whats my opposite. The option for renter the earthquake be Insurance Company is affordable i think people dont realize just exactly what it covers it covers damaged property but loss of use if you have to be under a building they have a quarter main that was broken as well as Emergency Repair if interests glass breaks in the carpet you need to be in our unit thats whether earthquake is important. Youre title youre the excessive mitigation officer for the state of california when i think of insurance i dont think about mitigation. So as part of Public Safety mission the c e a started to put aside mitigation loss fund 5 percent of invested income and when i joined the company 34 years ago we had 45 million to make a difference for moving and incentivizing and mitigation for California Homeowners to structure engineering a unique opportunity to cervical homeowners to help them to mitigate the equivalent. Whether an owner or renter i want to find more information about earthquake insurance where should i go. Earthquake authority. Com not only information about insurance but a calculated figures and as of january lots of deductible and 25 percent if a homeowner mitigate their hope up to 20 percent off their premium as an incentive for the work. What does mitigate the home mean. Strengthen, renovate, retrofit through a home particularly older to earlier codes and you put in adding streamlining maybe collar bolts to tie to the foundation or to the wall so it is braced to earthquake can be very, very affordable and really makes a difference. Thank you very much for being with us i encourage the viewers not only to checkout the Earthquake Authority but well talk about this lodge is home to some of the best fly casting pools in the world. These shallow concrete pools dont have fish. This is just a place where people come to practice their fly casting technique. Ith was built in the 1930s and ever since, people have been coming here to get back to nature. Every year, the World Championship of fly casting is held in San Francisco and visitors from all over the globe travel to be here. We are here with phil, general manage of San Francisco rec and Parks Department at the anglers lodge. What do you think about this . It is spectacular, travis from oregon, taught me a snake roll and a space cast. There are people from all over the world come to San Francisco and say this is the place to be. Yeah. Its amazing, we have teams from all over the world here today and they are thrilled. I flew from ireland to be here. And been practicing since for the competition. All the best casters in the world come here. My fellow countryman came in first place and james is on the current team and he is the head man. Its unique. Will not see anything like it where you go to compete in the world. Competitions in ireland, scotland, norway, japan, russia each year, the facilities here in the park are second to none. There is no complex in the world that can touch it. Im here with bob, and he has kindly agreed to tell me everything i need to know about casting. Im going to suit up and next, were in the water. What any gentleman should do. Golden gate angling has free lessons the second saturday of every month. We have equipment show up on the 9 30 on the second saturday of every month and well teach them to fly cast. Ok. We are in the water. Let me acquaint you with the fly rod. Nice to meet you. This is the lower grip and the upper grip. This is a reel and a fly line. We are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. Exactly as you moved your hands. Thats it . Thats it. Im a natural. Push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. Push forward. I did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. I met someone else with real fly casting skills. Her name is donna and she is an International Fly casting champion. I have competed in the casting ponds in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. I have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. I spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. Its a great place to learn and have fun. On a season day like this, it was the perfect spot to be. I find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. Takes me out into the nature. Almost like drawing art in the air. And then i can make these beautiful loops out there. Even though people from across the globe come here to compete, its still a place where locals in the know relax and enjoy some rely unique scenery. Until next time, get out and play youre watching quick bite, the show that has San Francisco. Were here at one of the many food centric districts of San Francisco, the 18th street corridor which locals have affectionately dubbed the castro. A cross between castro and gastronomic. The bakery, pizza, and dolores park cafe, there is no end in sight for the mouth watering food options here. Adding to the culinary delights is the family of business he which includes skylight creamery, skylight and the 18 raisin. Skylight market has been here since 1940. Its been in the family since 1964. His father and uncle bought the market and ran it through sam taking it over in 1998. At that point sam revamped the market. He installed a kitchen in the center of the market and really made it a place where chefs look forward to come. He created community through food. So, we designed our community as having three parts we like to draw as a triangle where its comprised of our producers that make the food, our staff, those who sell it, and our guests who come and buy and eat the food. And we really feel that we wouldnt exist if it werent for all three of those components who really support each other. And thats kind of what we work towards every day. Valley creamery was opened in 2006. The two pastry chefs who started it, chris hoover and walker who is sams wife, supplied all the pastries and bakeries for the market. They found a space on the block to do that and the ice cream kind of came as an afterthought. They realized the desire for ice cream and we now have lines around the corner. So, thats been a huge success. In 2008, sam started 18 reasons, which is our community and event space where we do five events a week all around the idea of bringling people closer to where the food comes from and closer to each other in that process. 18 reasons was started almost four years ago as an educational arm of their work. And we would have dinners and a few classes and we understood there what momentum that people wanted this type of engagement and education in a way that allowed for a more indepth conversation. We grew and now we offer i think we had nine, we have a series where adults learned home cooking and we did a teacher Training Workshop where San Francisco unified Public School teachers came and learned to use cooking for the core standards. We range all over the place. We really want everyone to feel like they can be included in the conversation. A lot of organizations i think which say were going to teach cooking or were going to teach gardening, or were going to get in the policy side of the food from conversation. We say all of that is connected and we want to provide a place that feels really Community Oriented where you can be interested in multiple of those things or one of those things and have an entree point to meet people. We want to build community and were using food as a means to that end. We have a wonderful organization to be involved with obviously coming from buy right where really everyone is treated very much like family. Coming into 18 reasons which even more Community Focused is such a treat. We have these events in the evening and we really try and bring people together. People come in in groups, meet friends that they didnt even know they had before. Our whole set up is focused on communal table. You can sit across from someone and start a conversation. Were excited about that. I never worked in catering or food service before. Its been really fun learning about where things are coming from, where things are served from. It is getting really popular. Shes a wonderful teacher and i think it is a Perfect Match for us. It is not about home cooking. Its really about how to facilitate your ease in the kitchen so you can just cook. I have always loved eating food. For me, i love that it brings me into contact with so many wonderful people. Ultimately all of my work that i do intersects at the place where food and community is. Classes or cooking dinner for someone or writing about food. It always come down to empowering people and giving them a wonderful experience. Empower their want to be around people and all the values and reasons the commitment, community and places, were offering a whole spectrum of offerings and other really wide range of places to show that good food is not only for wealthy people and they are super committed to accessibility and to giving people a glimpse of the beauty that really is available to all of us that sometimes we forget in our day to day running around. We have such a philosophical mission around bringing people together around food. Its so natural for me to come here. We want them to walk away feeling like they have the tools to make change in their lives. Whether that change is voting on an issue in a way that they will really confident about, or that change is how to understand why it is important to support our small farmers. Each class has a different purpose, but what we hope is that when people leave here they understand how to achieve that goal and feel that they have the resources necessary to do that. Are you inspired . Maybe you want to learn how to have a patch in your backyard or cook better with fresh ingredients. Or grab a quick bite with organic goodies. Find out more about 18 reasons by going to 18 reasons. Org and learn about buy right market and creamery by going to buy right market. Com. And dont forget to check out our blog for more info on many of our episodes at sf quick bites. Com. Until next time, may the fork be with you. So chocolaty. Mm. Oh, this is awesome. Oh, sorry. I thought we were done rolling. Planning commission this is the regular meeting any kind. Proceedings. And when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. Id like to call roll at this time. Commissioner president fong commissioner bobby wilson commissioner hillis and scope we expect all other commissioners to arrive shortly commissioners, that places you under your proposed for continuance item o1 townsend street conditional use authorization is proposed for january 19, 2017, and item 2 townsend street conditional use authorization is also proposed for continuance until january 19, 2015, and 3 abc for ca cases for determination of compliance conditional use authorization and allegation of Square Footage are proposed until december 8, 2016, and amendment process is proposed until december 1st, 2016, and item 5 simplification planning Code Amendment proposed until December December 1st, 2016, 2000 van ness is proposed until december 1st, 2016, and item 7 Market Street is proposed for continuance until december 1st item 8 the inventory informational presentation is proposed until december 1st, 2016, commissioners further under your calendar for the academy of art section h addendum item 23 excuse me for case the academy of art ceqa ifthdz items 23 a, through g for cases adaptation of planning code text changes initiated by the Planning Department planning Code Amendments 2016 adaptation of text changes proposed and related to the academy of Art University the academy of art plan code text amendments and 2209 van ness avenue conditional use authorization and next van ness avenue conditional use authorization and market octavia conditional use authorization at pine street conditional use authorization and sutter street cdcc on bush street conditional use authorization and at 1153 conditional use authorization respectfully are all proposed for continuance until february 2nd, 2017. Director rahaim what you like to make comments before Public Comment. Thank you, mr. President commissioners related to the request for continuance on the academy of art items that is coming from staff i want to tell you the basis for that Zoning Administrator Scott Sanchez and judicially settlement disconnections the citys perhaps was required by the judge so weve before asked by the judge to participate in those participation the judge assigned to the litigation that the inadequate filed against the academy of art he asked we continue those discussions with aau with the courts inspiration and not closer the substance for now he asked to continue consideration of this item to allow those discussions to continue over the next few weeks and an early december the District Attorneys Office and staff plan to brief you in closed session on the status of that relation and the discussions we may be in a position to provide you and the public important daily but were at this time not to disclose any information its the basis for the continuance on this item. Opening up for Public Comment on the items proposed for continuance. There is one speaker card paul weaver. Good afternoon. My name is paul weber a north beach resident must be of Telegraph Hill dwellers and the coalition for San Francisco neighborhoods here to comment on item 5 the article 7 reorganization we ask article 7 be continued indefinitely first, as of today theres no available official rewrite of the proposal yet there are numerous changes suggested by one mcd and probably 3 others none of which have appeared in any official rewrites of the article 7 with the thanksgiving weekend into flue and december 1st is enforceable for any new versions to be digested by you or the public in that period of time. Secondly, as weve said repeatedly the outreach is ensufficient to inform mcds of what is being proposed and how theyre coming priced of Small Businesses who owners have neither the time or Human Resources to understand the impact of the document and the possibility of urban intended consequences yet their disadvantaged because the staff should be performing the task that only a fortunate few mcd have been able to do with the changes that are proposed by at least three or four that 3 or 4 represent about 10 percent of the mcds in addition to three or four mcds suggesting changes a number of changes were suggested over the past year by commissioner tangs office and in the draft the point the bulk of those effected dont have the resources to do the research we firmly believe that should be a function of the staff thank you very much and ill turn in any one and 50 word statement for the record. Thank you, thank you mr. Weber. Sue hester i came out from another i agree with a what was said the rezoning of the experimental district in the middle of how wide season is disrespectful to Small Businesses and additionally you know that commuter has been down more than up in our computer for the Planning Department for about to go through some kind of overhaul during the holidays his request is a minimal request should be respected im trying to do number one and two to the academy of art continued until january 19th i dont think you intend to have this hearing before you have the bigger hearing on the academy of art and if you can deal with the rest of the calendar to the second i think this should be the second at urban forester or after that so Pay Attention to academy of art beginning and the end of the calendar and the date for continuances doesnt make sense really urge you to Pay Attention to article 7 revision and hearing in the middle of the holidays it is really not nice thank you good afternoon, commissioners my name is carlo a field representative for carpenters local 22 and im here speaking against the request for a continuance for the 950, 974. Please a duran that item is not considered at this time you may speak to it when the item is called. The matter of continuance from the commissioners wish to take that up will be taken up at the time and any Public Comment on the items proposed for continuance seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner moore move to continue items one through and 8 together with items 23 and 24 in the respected substance to the dates mentioned my understanding the aau will be continued until february 2nd and the dates are what they are i assume we can comment on to others. Ms. Hester referred to the first two items under the consent calendar related to the aau so for suggestion having them on the same date as the asia doesnt make sense. I would agree with that if we can amend the motion to recommend those two items will be included isnt larger aau discussion. February 2nd. Second auto commissioner Vice President richards. Yes. Is there a reason why we couldnt put the article 7 after the new year rather than before . I dont know exactly there have been to number of meetings we know about article and a lot of back and forth. It was actually scheduled to be on your calendar and moved for the academy of art being such a long hearing we tried to move things off of today, we heard from a member of the public. Just to be clear article 7 is not rezoning in the commercial district for the article. Commissioner moore. In support of what commissioner Vice President richards just said the fact that certain items are continued at least separate isnt chamber didnt mean we dont work on them i worked on them over the weekend didnt make that easier this is disappointing i believe that adding additional stuff through the holidays kind of not what i want to do ill move to the longer calendar is fine by me. I dont jonas that item were not considering that. It was not on your agenda today, we received a packet for this matter for consideration today you have considered it previously under several informational presentations okay. You did you make a motion. I made a motion. Did you want to amend it. Its not on the agenda sew it is. Id like to add to any motion to push out the decisions an article 7 beyond the holidays. To february. February . February 2nd . Second. Very good commissioners theres a motion to continue items one and two to february 2nd, items abc 3, 4, 6, 7 and 8 as proposed item 5 for article 7 to february 2nd, 2016, as well as all matters listed in agenda item h for items 23, 23 a through g to february 2nd, 2017, on that motion. Commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner Vice President richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. Commissioners, that places you under your consent calendar which we have no items on consent the consideration of draft minutes any Public Comment on draft minutes not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. And commissioner Vice President richards. Move to approve second. Thank you, commissioner on that motion to adopt the minutes important november 3rd. Commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner Vice President richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us on item 10 commissioner questions or comments. Commissioner Vice President richards. Briefing there was an article in the New York Times how residents are coping with the household are making quite a few quite a bit of money only a tailor in a tailor park the interesting thing some of the trailers have test last in the carport while he successfully people are renting trailers, and, secondly, as a result of the election in Mountain View and richmond and san mateo in lastly it is great that airbnb will help them endorse the rental law that is great news for everybody. Commissioner melgar i had a request from a member of the public that i agree with that are which is there is a lot of complicated information to comes to the commission that the academy of art is an example and San Francisco Port Commission and complicated and im wondering in part of the what we do with the transparent can be an indexing tool on the website rather than attached to when it comes to the Commission Like the projects having you know some kind of pages programs that allow you to easely search for things within documents so, anyway a comment an idea when we do discuss. Just for clarity the individual documents or the the subject property matters i worked and i think both a member of the public might be interested in theville documents or the potrero hill or hope sf part of a large discussion well go to defy meetings to get the supportive documents and have to be judgment involved as is grouping of documents seems like a reasonable request. And youre referring to the electronic versions and uhhuh. Commissioner Vice President richards. Thats a good point i do the copy papers i file the same subject in a file even if there is a link to the pathway that we heard that would be helpful to keep and paper trail. Commissioners, if theres nothing further, well move on to departmental matters dourment. Thank you jonas commissioners a couple of housekeeping items a memo in the pathway related to proposition 64 moving forward with the legalization of cannabis in california and talked about that in your packet for next week well receive a lengthy pathway a memo and supporting information for brisbane we i did gives us a breakdown of the brisbane eir studied and 4 options that were studied as well as the parole that that the Planning Commission in brisbane approved moving forward going head that will be in your packet next week and perhaps take questions as you look at that thank you. Item 12 receive of past event of the events board of appeals and the Historic Preservation commission. Good afternoon aaron starr, manager, legislative affairs. At that weeks linguistic we concerned the proposed ordinance by supervisor wiener to the planning code if 2 to 5 years owned or leased by an Educational Institution the Planning Commission heard this september 8th and voted to recommend approve at the Land Use Committee hearing to speakers in support of ordinance and nun in opposition supervisor peskin has questions about the time period from 2 to 5 years and how that was monitored and enforced questions were you answered we mr. Powers the Committee Voting unanimously to recommend approval to the full board sorry next on the agenda was the zoning map and planning Code Amendments for the mission and 9 street support by supervisor kim and supervisor peskin this item was continued for were on track one week because the japan was not also calendar on the date as required at the full board this week 1345 ocean avenue with the president wesson tenor church sponsored by supervisor yee and supervisor breed was passed its in the second reading and maiden lane the morris gift shop sponsored sponsored by supervisor peskin also passed its the second reading the board passed its an exception to the interim controls between king and fulsome this is sponsored by supervisor kim it has been in place for about 18 most and lastly this week the board of supervisors considered the committee to hear a environmental determination for van ness that will demolishing demolish a 31 thousand square feet building in order to construct a 5 to 6 story mixed use with one and 57 residential units with bmr unit and 25 percent and one thousand square feet of retail and 42 square feet of trade shops the appeal was based on claims the folks failed to should the impact from gentrification and under the eastern neighborhoods and impact but i cayuga quatro the appeal contends the eir is outofdate and cant be relied on for subsequent projects a notable comment the pounts feel nothing is done for the quatro district the motion made and supervisor campos directed the department to have an analysis of gentrification and displacement and the impacts of growth under the eastern neighborhoods that accounts for all projects in the pipeline the impact is considered particularly for this project before you conduct an additional analysis by the board and one introduction of note this week the resolution concreting the department of Human Services for the cu for the ashen in pdr for 18 months or until the adoption of permanent resolution this is legalizing the cannabis in the state intended to address the conditioners that cannabis will displace the pdr in the city porter im available to answer any questions. Thank you commissioners no report on was Historic Preservation or the board of appeals that places us in general Public Comment not to exceed 15 minutes at this time, members of the public may address the commission to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. With respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when reached in the meeting. Each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. I do have one speaker card. Thank you georgia swedish. Good afternoon, commissioners in our water he bill this last month, a thing about the mixing of ground water with the water from hetch hetchy and good water that made me know about where the water goes i really believe as ive said previously the r e g should be worked in parallel overlaps in the issues for example, with the rear yards of natural areas their consumed to privacy fences that call off the yards more than the traditional fences but more importantly to the Water Company is water absorption into the ground turf is installed and a lot of patios and trees and the handbag at that time are lost rear yard are programmed theyre not rear yard anymore their programmed and then the water is going into the sewer so that adds to the bill another issue the offer use of glass and the poor design quality is bad demonstration it creates light portion in the rear yard the main thing trying to particularly with the udg i know the staff is over worked i didnt go to a meeting but at another meeting they presented to the Neighborhood Group if you look at some of the topics this the udg it related to habitat and landscaping and also issues of design in the windows i think the parallels seems a good time to start beginning the process with the provision of udg weve been talking about for a long time thank you very much and this is more for the minutes thank you, commissioners. Good afternoon, commissioners my name is fernando im a member of the eastern neighborhoods cac and was involved in a long time with the armenians rezoning we want to speak that 1515 van ness you heard in the board of supervisors report it raise a critical question about cumulative impacts weve discussed over and over with the cac i know youve discussed at various times the fact we continue to build within the eastern neighborhoods and we have in the been keeping up with the infrastructure that was to mitigate the impacts of development you have an analysis that was created you have your eir that called for mitigation measures were far hidden that i think that appeal that was uphold for 1550 south van ness points to the critical need out grown the eastern neighborhoods eir and it is time for the city to reconsider how we are going to pay for the needed infrastructure and development that continues to happen thank you. Is there any additional general Public Comment . Good afternoon commissioner director rahaim peter with the calculator Action Network i wanted to follow up briefly on what fernando said i think that from a mission stand point and particularly out of the save the mission weve been working heavy with director rahaim and some of the issues of mitigation and also looking at some of the key components corridors i want to raise that question in regards to the ruling the other night we keep in the foreman of our minds we discuss what are the sensitive his her are areas where cumulative impact come in and north Mission Street the latino cultural district and how impact cumulatively to look at how the areas are effected and what is the size of impact in those more sensitive areas flarn to other areas the situation is different so thats what id like to highlight in addition what ferdinand had to say thank you. Good afternoon commissioners Joel Koppel Isle ive not met you this guess a great day ive been here before you guys got on the board and concerned about the mission obviously that is why i come here and im most concerned that the 55 thousand is it 40 thousand uber and lyft directives in the east bay to drive in our city and the commuter buses weve not anticipated in the neighborhoods i think that they come along with the more marketrate unit those are the folks using the services when we are looking at the cumulative impact on the environment and were trying to really do the right thing for protecting the mission and not turning it into another displaced fillmore or now the bayview that lost its africanamerican population it is the time to do the right thing and put the resources together to try to really be worldclass in leading the struggle to preserve your immigrant community as time this is the biggest attack that ever happened he know well potentially be in danger of los federal funding and Affordable Housing resources are going to be at risk and i think were the people that need to stand point and do something im trying to organize a bunch of independent developers to fill in the gap for the Affordable Housing funding that might be going away i think that you guys do the policy and you guys can really do some protective measures that will help to save the immigrant community when it is under attack im urging you to have the planning Department Staff do the cumulative impact of all the high ended development that has been part of this community suddenly and try to pace it out and try to talk about the increase of affordability in those communities in danger thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners koreay smith speaking on behalf of myself i was there tuesday night was a bizarre meeting things were going through as a country but in the 2020 meeting the anger and hatred is way two previous havent and it was prevalent on tuesday the concerns are real and really, really real. Im concerned about it we want to spend a lot of time planning and not solving the problem as the located officials i encourage to you be thoughtful in our goals and one thing i wanted to emphasize were going to hoping work to pass a legislation that will encourage the development in parts of the city that have not seen development over the last thirty years or so i really, really you believe that will help the mission and sincerely hope that that the people in favor we join in our efforts to try to mitigate some of the negative impacts that have happened knowing were all one city and care deeply about the city thank you okay is there any additional Public Comment . Comment is closed. Commissioner Vice President richards. Yes. Wanted to reiterate to the Department Director if this is a change you how things are looked as a result of the tuesdays south van ness we hope to understand the impact thank you. Commissioners, if theres nothing further, well move on to regular calendar for item 13 Case Medical Services in Sacramento Neighborhood commercial district this is a planning Code Amendment. Good afternoon, commissioners im Monique Mohan for the medical services in Sacramento Neighborhood commercial district also provide a brief overall and the commissioner if supervisor farrells will be here to provide comments currently within the sacramento new medical services with prohibit at all equip professional businesses that can convert to the first story. And medical serve used is permitted as an accessory use this legislation would allow medical services on the ground floor and below and now require a conditional use authorization or cu authorization will be principally permitted on the medical floor it is a skate use that requires conditional use authorization and the department supports the goals of this orientals that provides a path for medical services not overly restrict and on the empowering by requiring a cu authorization recognizing the neighborhood that losing mcds that will be further the property ordinance is a loophole in an ineffective land use controls that allows the conversion to a medical use and finally for the accessory medical uses allows scrutiny for the medical spraz that provides station therefore we ask the Planning Commission recommend approval for the recommendations to the effect im here for questions and im going to turn it over to my colleague. Good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission legislative aide to supervisor farrell and our office has been working with the sacramento street to addresses the concerns where the active services are been replaced by the medical service were sensitive to the personal serves and operating as personal services and looking forward to the h mcds strike the right balance for the service uses were getting early Ferry Building their relaxing restaurant involves controls well make sacramento street safer thanks for having us. And thank you to monica shes easy to work with this is her last day we enjoyed working with her. Okay opening up for Public Comment not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner moore. A few weeks ago we had a case that speaks to this potentially being a good do i think there will be a need for local smaller offices the devil is in the details the question i have for the director is as a cu will be provided all the additional guidelines because the offer abundance of ground floor medical offices on the part of divisadero is very, very stifling and since sacramento is distinguished retail corridor and a Service Corridor id like to see this strike a balance i see the need yet in our back pocket have Additional Guidance for this and again medical offices can be commanding high rents which is a complication for smaller retailers especially the retailers that make up the profile of the sacramento are all individual local and ill hate to see that balance tip with the lure of higher rents on especially on the ground floor occupation of those retails and commissioner, i building this legislation tries to make sure that happens by putting further limits on medical offices and minica correct me if i am wrong so it gives us a better filter to look at the services so we have a better mexico of services on the ground floor. I mean the way it was in sacramento it is pretended; right . So we firmly believe that a conditional use authorization because there are so many findings hard to make as part of cu necessary and desirable a case planner on that should be able to go to the corridor and look at a business mix and provided that information to the commissioners and often again, when you get cases that are cus this is in talking with the mrntsd there is a lot of each corridor will be different ill have to defer to legislative sponsors if theyre to create more spaces for medical services but ill also say that epic your Citywide Division with working on updating the Health Care Master plan and this is an issue i like the staff to look at more holistically in the city so while it may not be prohibited the particular piece of legislation the staff is considering this including the frequency and. Correct ive talked with the staff about that. As long as we see that happen simultaneously i think well be better informed consulting with them in the cu context we need guidance when it comes to tell you cases im in support of this piece of legislation and move to approve paw second. Commissioner Vice President richards. One question for supervisor staff the vacancy rate is 11 percent mcds how does many compare to other mcds. I dont know how it compares to other mcds and okay. Thank you. Yeah. That takes a lot of staff work. So. Great i get it. Director rahaim and im sorry actually she beat me to it i want to thank minica we are sorry to lose her to the open Transportation Department so thank you. clapping. id like to thank for clarity to adopt a recommendation for approval with the modifications proposed . There are no modifications. Okay. Sorry thank you for that clarification commissioners on that motion to adapt approval commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner Vice President richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us on item 13 for case the inclusionary housing Small Sites Program. Good afternoon, commissioners Diego Sanchez today ill be talking about the Affordable Housing program, however, in my presentation we want to provide sheila with time to present and like to note that Sophie Hayward Mayors Office of housing will be here to answer questions. Good afternoon, commissioners while supervisor campos and mayor ed lee dont see eye to eye they agree our neighborhoods need more Affordable Housing thats why our offices Work Together on prevention for the avenue required a marketrate development more than the Main Development built the legislation the item before you is the residential unit of 25 unions or less to to turn the units into permanently Affordable Housing it gives Small Developers a fourth option for meeting their Affordable Housing obligations as you may know the opens o options to build onsite or objective to an Affordable Housing fund the Small Sites Program is in place for the last two years and has stabilized housing working with the Mayors Office of housing the District Line office has spotted one thousand units of Affordable Housing this legislation will allow more permanently Affordable Housing to come online we firmly believe that from the next generations of as follows will be able to live here to make sure the development benefits the neighborhood is constructed and in line of that we support the staffs recommendation to require that any fees collected for the small fund fees within the neighborhood where the project is located as opposed to so a mile radius the shareholders want the Affordable Housing to come online near the development for a mix of income levels are in the same neighborhood and the Small Developers want to point to the developments when theyre trying to built support within the neighborhoods for their projects that amendment allows us to address both those concerns we encourage you to recommend a second modifications to pay contingency between this legislation and prop b our citys inclusionary housing we suggest eligible principle are commodity of 24 rather than 25 units or less in prop c the city requires a different affordability between 10 and 24 units and a higher percentage for 25 and more units i want to thank the Mayors Office of housing, the planning Department Staff, the council on Community Housing organizations the residential Building Inspection Association and others for their work and input thank you. Im around for questions as well. The department is in support of this to help the city to acquire small rental buildings this helps with the hovrtd and provides a large stalth for tenants and the department is proposing a modification to the geographic small sites proposing a definition for the department and that concludes my presentation. Im available to answer any questions thank you. Okay opening up for Public Comment thank you. calling names good afternoon, commissioners thank you very much for your time nominees and a till letter the organizational director for the land trust and the biggest beneficiary of the program in San Francisco the one and 75 san franciscans living in our two units this great effort that the Mayors Office of housing and this body to make that program live and be effective we absolutely support the amendment as drafted including the additional amendment that was spoken about today it is especially important in the current compliment to keep the impacts localized as much as possible we support the time of the dollars to the locality and it allows us to mitigate the impacts to the neighborhood where their experienced we also support the neighborhood definition how most of us every day san franciscans think about our community and the areas where we live some of the technical existence make that chronological open challenging i think comes from the tenants in the various neighborhoods to explain why their outside of the neighborhoods it challenging we really, really also love the idea of tying this legislation to the smaller developments happening as most know the majority renters live in the 20 to 25 unit building they have a tremendous impact for the land use to help we support this and appreciate the staffs time and the Mayors Office and the Supervisors Office to make that happen ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Next speaker, please. Come on up ill call some names calling names . Good afternoon. My name is carlene with mission confirmation Development Agency as you may know meta has been active in the neighborhood with the Small Sites Program by the end of this year 50 units equivalent to 2 Apartment Building and those are all small sites this is an Important Program were seeing 0 more important to reduce the displacement of developments im going to share a letter from one of the attendants thirty who hopes to buy a building hello, im writing to express the displacements poernlt on fulsome also known as which is one and 19 apartments ive lived open fulsome street since 1989 across the street from the lecturer building property our building has 8 units the majority with occupied by retired People Living on low income and Social Security pensions i live with my adult son who was born here and went to Caesar Chavez and delores middle school. Part time of teacher and work on treat street ive worked there since 1991 heres the punch line after the first open house my landlady said shes putting my building on the market and the building across the street will help her get more money out of my displacement not only for me and my son i reached out to meta weve worked on acquiring the building i dont need to read the rest of her letter this program is expanding allowing the inclusionary housing fee for the 43 will insure that our neighborhood will have another resources for being able to save our family from being displaced think about the amendments that will keep us in the neighborhood and two the ability to add this to 10 to 25 unit range and want to encourage you as we round about that to been deeply the inclusionary housing so it goes deeper than the 12 percent and the equivalentcy of the in lui fees thank you for your time. Good afternoon im fernandos speaking in support of the section 415 thank you supervisor campos office and thanks to the staff of the Mayors Office of housing and Community Development for working on this and 3406d relating small the uncontroversial piece of improvements to section 415 in 2009, 2008 worked with the Mayors Office of housing to deputy a Small Site Program in 2009 supervisor daily port this as part of inclusionary housing policy since then 2014 the Mayors Office rolled out the program and dozens of families have been saved from ellis act and what this piece of legislation will do this amendment is create a geographic proximate to how those fees can be used to preserve housing in the immediate proximity in the neighborhood the marketrate is happening we believe that using the Planning Department definition of neighborhoods and the map is appropriate way of defining neighborhoods and we think this is very important to link those impacts within that neighborhood we would last week to recommend one amendment as mentioned before by supervisor campos office to require this apply to the 10 to 24 unit building that aligns with our current prop c definition for inclusionary housing requirements and thank you very much and hope you support those amendments. Hello, again corey smith speaking on behalf of the Action Coalition and speaking in support today a sensible new tool for a housing shortage that will help displacement and we firmly believe that the preservation of roiveng housing is critical for the city thats the cheapest way and the members are behind it when you get two issues back to back in support of something we have a land use policy and it is good thank you. Engage commissioners my name is marilyn i want to say im excited to be here for the first time look forward to seeing the commissioners im here in support of amendment on 415 for the small sites youve hereto or heard will the need to keep people in their home and the displacement that is one of the solutions to mitigate the issues with lack of Housing Units and acquiring the small sites i had a dream when i was a young girl so hoping to acquire the building im in not an attorney but this is a dream come true keeping it in the neighborhood and having opportunity to have those land and meta buy the property will be amazing so we support this amendment and also to echo what a lot of the folks said before they keeping the inclusionary housing is imprinting consistent with prop c thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners denver richard San Francisco Housing Development Corporation Im here to speak in support of ordinance 415 San Francisco Housing Development corporation that was born and started by preliminarily professionals in the Africanamerican Community at the time 25 years ago in order to spin the tide of africanamericans leaving the city unfortunately, weve seen the trend continue, however, continue to work hard to address that issue and we see this ordinance as a tool for us to provide an opportunity for Community Members many of which are public employees, teachers and this is invested in the members that volunteer and provide support and services to the neighborhood so it is a tool to keep them in the neighborhood so we also would like to support the suggested amendment to make the number of unit consistent are prop c we think that make sense as well we believe this is just another tool also for developers to be able to meet their obligations for providing Affordable Housing we urge you to support this legislation thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners shawn a b. A. At some point im a little bit embraced to talk about that ive been talking about it for some long at some point it gets frustrating im excited were finally here this process started over two years ago a working group that was conveyed by the mayor we worked with groups to put this program together the policy was rolled up into a larger more controversial piece of legislation and it got delayed it got stuck sat for over a year a long, long time recently, there was a project in the mission and in our conversation with those folks we say hey what about this can help the director of the organization the members from the community and supervisor campos offices a Mayors Office of housing and Community Development all got together and said lets get this done we got the coordination of the mayor and here it is as a stand alone presentation were excited as small bubldz we have two option do you in lui we write the check we see is units are not in the community and not occupied by the members of the community and staff may not be occupied by people that live in San Francisco and the timing is not lining up with the new projects in fact, that rarely liens up the second option to provide the unit onsite it is better but not guaranteeing that the occupant will live San Francisco or come from the community so the work done recently that may improve but hefg no guarantee so this for us provides a tangible benefit to the neighbors our projects will help with the crisis and it is important to note that when youre looking at this it is important to recognize and to compare the overlay what else is going on in San Francisco where are the real problem the tmc and the ellis act a two for one benefit the same building and people that are subsidy to that sort displacement is going to benefit here so in short were going to produce more units they will be for the people in the community, the unit will be in the Community Well preserve the existence fabric of the community and do that online at or about the same as the marketrate thank you commissioners good afternoon john Residential Builders id like to Exchange Supervisor campos and the mayor for bringing 24 forward this good piece of legislation 2, 3, 4 0er7b8gd out of the marries task force and we work hard on that with and fernando and tracey from the land trust got tied up in a piece of legislation and came to the commission but sat here as a result of that were working on a smaller project in the mission in august and to direct the meeting with the neighborhoods folks and the project sponsor and we discussed this item and tried to move it forward to the commission because it burglary be a great tool for neighborhoods stabilization to protect the neighborhoods so we work two supervisor campos to move forward so i do support the prop c change that is from originally written before prop c and 24 units or less support that and ask you to move forward today, i think that a very good way of preserving housing in the neighborhood and the Neighborhood Stabilization thank you. Okay is there any additional Public Comment on this item. Briefly just to add Peter Coalition Action Network i think that i want to reiterate. Couple of points key to a lot of Mission Groups we like to see the inclusionary fees what are the rates were looking at higher inclusionary and other scenarios associated with that program and, of course, weighing in certain context with a volunteer program one option; right . As to go forward and drastically prefer the neighborhood option as thats what were seeing theory different between neighborhood and realistically i think the needs Public School diversity between different neighborhoods and finally if i can actually echo corey smiths radius kind of beyond a reasonable doubt of stabilization of those neighborhood is a key element we encourage the Community Groups that who are working with the city to actually acquire the property think about those as stabilization tools and well decide that is a really, really useful tool especially he keeping the workingclass folks here thank you. Okay is there any additional Public Comment . Not seeing any, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner moore. With the dark clouds of last tuesday hanging over us i label this to be a beacon of a bright light this is fantastic couldnt be happier better than it should be a great thing for thanksgiving first step by which i think we as city, state, can show the rest of how to do it were a city, state, having said that, thank you to everybody i be cant i see all the faces thank you to everybody this is fantastic i heard about this particular project in the various forms i know that was happening there was other first result but Port Commission fantastic given the speed and the program that exists in the past that taken hold to produce 76 units i think i heard im more than excited to see in the writing the mention of neighborhood the neighborhood becoming the Building Block the neighborhood as the real dna and ingredient most important ingredients and look forward to seeing other things to stem what is currently a part of larger trespassed and grateful toe mr. Chung to make that recommendation consistent with prop c so incredible teamwork and thank you and congratulations to all. Okay commissioner johnson. Thank you. Ill keep it brief im excited to see this this is going to be a long hearing for the record i share the board of San Francisco Development Corporation which is a nonprofit housing developer that is sticking to take advantage of the existing form and be able to have more projects in the future so really excited to see this today that is long overdue and hope well see many projects in the future i have a question for staff on this so assuming this sort of fails and even is happy and the project comes to us a small project their taking advantage of the small site Promising Program will they can identifying potential programs tooet at the time will we see a will we know what option for the Affordable Housing requirement and Diego Sanchez. My understanding theyll be checking the box at the minimum is whats going to happen i dont know if we have gone forward with skooefd maybe wants to comment as well. Hi there Sophie Hayward from the Mayors Office of Economic Workforce Development ill add through this option developers a developer is paying their fees onto the small site funds and two years to extend it within the neighborhood if we dont finds a property it goes into the small site funds there is a time limit by not necessarily a property identified. Okay second yes thank you sophie. Commissioner Vice President richards asked this an inventory of potential small sites across the country across the city is the city planning on coordinating with the Developers Like identifying the properties or are the funds going into the Small Sites Fund that any nonprofit housing Developer Corporation that want to take advantage is that about increasing the resources in the Small Sites Funds are are we creating a path for the manifesting to be identifying sites to acquire. Were improving the options for Small Developers to improve to provide a tangible benefit to the neighborhood we keep a list our staff ms. Harris is here she keeps a less of the buildings eligible to be acquired through the Small Sites Program as they come available so as the developer choose the small sites option well play a role if selecting a site from the pipeline that meets the criteria of the neighborhood boundary but the developer didnt need to identify the property and binge it to use it needs to be within the geographic area. We had a project on van ness they identified a rental building sort of nearby that was sort of their way of meeting their Affordable Housing requirement so with that, project be c