we're supposed to be doing and see if we can, get a more accurate reading on what is appropriate for 2012 fax with that, and comments on this? more specifically we're open to comments, if you read through this at all. it is something -- if something jumped out you in particular to comment it at this period. this discussion is not intended to be a detailed look at every item. a lot of work still leads to be -- we propose to do a lot more work on it. it is kind of a status update. president mazzucco: >i read through and iwa was daunted at first. i talked to commissioner chan about this report. it is good for us to look at all the different reports that have come forward to this commission. some may no longer be necessary. what we tend to here tends to be reactionary. suddenly there is a spark report for a keene report. we should look at if some of those reports are necessary. maybe not an omnibus where we say let's look at each thing we do. and decide whether we should do it. as the cannot naturally in their rotation as we see them, we shall look at them, evaluate them. should we do this every six months or once a year? should we even get a report? i see this as more of a paper reduction act to lessen the bureaucracy. what this commission has done and dr. marshall can speak as the senior statesman here, two weeks from now we do not know what we will be dealing with. things happen in this setting and you have to be prepared to handle that. i do not like a very rigid bureaucracy. that is not what we are. we have to be flexible and deal with the issues at the time. at the same time as these reports come forward, we should evaluate each and do we need to do this and do it every six months or every year? vice president marshall: ok. i think with what we are trying to say, or trying to get a sense of the things that we should be looking into, decide what those are. if i say something that is not right just tell me and put those on some regular scheduled basis, is that correct? rather than what we have generally done in the past was to, when something pops in, somebody has something they want to do, put that on the agenda in there sooner or later. that is basically how things run. is that sort of what this is about? >> for the most part, yes. there are things we are supposed to do on a regular schedule. do we still need to do these things on a regular schedule? we need to schedule some things out because there are so many things that happened that we need to react to. and so we need that spot. putting together something like this will allow us to do a better job of having the flexibility to fit in the items that come up on a regular basis as well as the items that we are surprised with or pop up that we have to deal with immediately. it makes -- what are we mandated to do and what must we deal with on the spot? commissioner kingsley: this resolution is addressing at this point just our responsibilities. you're talking about the variables. the things that come up. by surprise, soda speak. -- so to speak. vice president marshall: we made a decision about this, we will do discipline every third wednesday. is that a small example of the bigger thing we're talking about in some form? that worked fairly well. every third wednesday we tended to put things on there and we made that the number one priority at the top of the list. is that an idea in the small cents? >> yes. what we're trying to do with everything? >> more or less. >> it wanted to thank you for putting this together. it is quite an undertaking taking an educational process for me. i understand our main responsibility is oversight of the occ and the department and also the policy work that we do. there is a number of other responsibilities that are listed in the charter and codes that i was not aware of. it is good to lay it out there. i am wondering in terms of moving forward, how to make the most of this. there are a lot of reports that come before us. some might be too frequent and we might consider that on a case by case basis and there are other reports that do not happen and they should. the language access report, i have asked for that. this was to come annually once a year. there are things like that that we need to -- this would be helpful to remind them the states to happen. this is a useful road map. >> thank you for your input. i think the idea of reviewing the reports as the, naturally is a good way to approach this and evaluate those pieces that relate to reporting. >> in light of the word efficiency, will this make us more efficient? commissioner kingsley: that is the whole idea. president mazzucco: anything else regarding this? >> at this point, commissioner terman and i will start working with the input we get from the bocc which we have received already. and work with the tenet rally and the inspector to go through this line by line to sort through what we have been doing and to get feedback regarding frequency of reports and if there is something we have not been doing here, where are we allowing it to be at the -- follow the wayside? we no longer need. before any changes are made that come before the commission and say, here are the changes that we're recommending and this is why. and see how the commission thinks about that. there will be probably several layers of that. once the commission is on board in terms of the list and the frequency, it would be reduced into exit -- exhibit a. where to plug in these reports. >> i am glad it will come back for -- before the commission. for various reasons we might want to keep the number. president mazzucco: thank you for your hard work. any public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed. please call the next line. >> line 6, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 8 below. close session. disciplinary action including public comment on vote whether to hold item 8 in closed session. president mazzucco: is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. item seven. >> vote on whether to hold item 8 in closed session. all in favor? ladies and gentlemen, we now move to closed session. >> it is 11:0do i have a vote oa motion regarding disclosure? >> move fernanda closure. >> please call the next item. >> that was item 9 we just passed and moving into item 10, item 10 is adjournment for which we also need a motion. >> second. >> think you very much, everybody. >> and the police commissioner will conclude business at 8:012 p.m. >> i tried to think about this room as the dream room, where we dream and bring some of those dreams to life. i feel very blessed that i have been able to spend the last 31 years of my life doing it my way, thinking about things better interesting to me, and then pursuing them. there are a lot of different artists that come here to work, mostly doing aerial work. kindred spirits, so to speak. there is a circus company that i have been fortunate enough to work with the last couple of years. i use elements of dance and choreography and combine that with theater techniques. a lot of the work is content- based, has a strong narrative. the dancers have more of a theatrical feel. i think we are best known for our specific work. in the last 15 years, spending a lot of time focusing on issues that affect us and are related to the african-american experience, here in the united states. i had heard of marcus shelby and had been in join his work but never had the opportunity to meet him. we were brought together by the equal justice society specifically for this project. we were charged with beginning work. marquez and i spent a lot of time addressing our own position on the death penalty, our experiences with people who had been incarcerated, family members, friends of friends. pulling our information. beyond that, we did our own research. to create a picture that resonated with humanity. it is the shape of a house. in this context, it is also small and acts like a cell. i thought that was an interesting play on how these people make these adjustments, half to create home. what is home for these people? 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