We want to say to the jews that we will not let you live calmly as long as you occupy our land. We have firm that normalization has a disastrous and because palestine is a global in islamic issue, our message to the world is that we will continue on the path of resistance asking the question, next will asia be allowed to rise and full phillips sky high potential. This century, it sucks down on a weekly visit to the worlds of parts to deal with state close for that. I will catch you again. The, the, the world is a part of the 21st century is widely believed to be about the rise of china. The continental goose name comes from a greek warranty, meaning to rise. But despite being cold, the land of the rising sun, asia is no one lands inside its the biggest, the most dispersed of all continents, with many lamps wanting to shine and grow. Is it possible to rise unless rise while to discuss it . Im now joined by doctor for and try it. Then leave us on the secretary general of the asian cooperation dialogue doctor born child. Its great to talk to thank you very much for your time. Thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to say a few words about the a cd. Now your organization, the a cd was created some 20 years ago as with the goal of facilitating communication on the corporation across the whole of asia. And the task seems pretty straightforward, but the one we love deep down is supposed to be pretty challenging because asia is such a diverse content. And it stands all the way from russia, as far as where we are right now, down to the giants of india in china, across the islands, nations of the pacific, an indian ocean, and all the way to the gulf. Those that this is in the mountains diversity. I wonder if there is anything in common among all those asian lands. Of course, this is perhaps the beauty of asia. And perhaps this is the reason why we need to have this bottom. This part of it is like a set fob for Asian Countries to discuss or deal with issues in nature so that we can have our common understanding this, this uh uh, the reason why we need this platform you talk about, ill come and its the nominators or something, yes, of course. So we have, ill come on to the understanding. And of course the political will to Work Together. And, and at the initiative of the kingdom of, of thailand in 2002, this forum was established and now it was the established thanks to the time on the initiative. But its now headquarters in kuwait on yes, we are recording this conversation on the sidelines over 5 ladiva still working on the corman, i think for the 1st time in many years, we have a very large delegation from the error of countries, which is a very interesting and very unusual or before as the russians agent than the mention. I wonder if the golf culture of the gulf mentality, the gulf and diplomatic style as anything particular to the work of your organization. In fact, i dont think its only about uh, the data countries. But also a regional or some regional uh, uh, uh, block, seen in asia have already be, uh, fulfill the this uh, kind of uh, activities to make it, uh, realistic. Because uh you asked me about, uh, how do i uh, diplomacy out up in tallahassee. I think uh they, they, uh, pull a peaceful coexistence, a peaceful solution and in order to upgrade to get there. Uh, that is something that supplement and compliment the, the a cd which uh, also a couple things that both of uh informal dialogue as well. And terry sim and also chat commitments to cooperating with one of the. So that is how we can Work Together and also cooperate with one another. And that speeding you mentioned this sort of strive towards a peaceful solutions. And i dont think there is a single country in the world, thats what they argue against peaceful solutions, but the way they go about it is very different. The last time i took asia had 48 countries, not all of them. By the way, a members of your organization, but many and those cultures, those nations have sometimes longstanding grievances i wonder how do they go practically about piece, making them more specifically about neutrality . Because i think this concept of neutrality is changing recently, especially in the light of well uh, the trend in the west to take sides of pressure other countries to take sides. Well, youre right in the sense that your Political Landscape or to of political architecture has changed rapidly. Not only in asia, but every corner of the world. You asked me how we have. Uh, i would say uh so why is this bar and fox and the best right uh, starting from uh, 18 members at the beginning. Uh, there are 35 uh at the moment. So it is quite an achievement for us. Probably 7, uh, 18. 00 to 35. 00 and the other is about common denominators. Uh, meaning that we uh, work on something off the lease uh, uh, control the fee. Uh, for example, we have uh, 6 areas of cooperation, connectivity, education, science and Technology Culture and to assume that if the keys, the in the interest of all, so we, we can work with a such a areas of cooperation with no hesitation. All right. I heard you say its one conference that dialogue and project based activity dr. Corporation forwards and allows that corporation not to be politicized. Can you speak more specifically about that . Why is that . From what i understand, this is actually a Technical Framework that allows certain results to be achieved. Hm. That is true because, 1st of all, we do not want to be fully to size. And why dont you want to be politicized . Because uh, this is the fact of least we cannot deny that politics. Ill always add the back of all of my uh, if we, uh, every, uh, uh, photo. Uh that the attendant, uh, more or less would uh, talk something about politics. But uh, if the uh, look back, got a uh, a cd. Its about on the political platform. So we can discuss some think of come with the new movie to have, as i guess, explain to you. That is why we would rather not talk about politics at all, because if one Say Something about refugees as is, would say about boundaries and so on and so forth. So it wouldnt, its going to be unless, and the, its not, its not going to be uh, productive for each year. That is why we need these, these products. I think in the past politics and governance were sort of as related concepts. Do i understand you correctly . Thats the organization, primarily focuses on governance, how to deliver governance rather than engaging and politics. And we cannot do away with this confidence in any way with or internationally or domestically. But were not going to discuss so much about that because we would rather leave it to the domestic requirements or National Policy of each country color than to make it out loud at the international uh for them like the ac d. Mm hm. Now youre speaking very diplomatic man, i know you have a very long resume with the talent diplomatic service. In fact, you worked for a number of years with the association of South East Asian nations. And this organization finds itself in the, from the challenging position right now. And uh, you know, in the so called a sense spirit is under some pressure, this a consensus gears approach it and theyre finding, its hard to realize i just came back from there. Some of them theyre talking openly about that. Because the great power rivalry is pushing them in different directions, is that also the case with the organization and how have you been able to with found that pressure of what one of the call you sure its about consensus open sense of building because uh we uh, i happened to come from a country in, in southeast asia. So i, i know a little bit about the consensus building consensus of building is one that would develop into confidence buildings. And that would be something to sustain our future. As long as everyone has one voice, but that wise will definitely be hurt. That is at that these, the crux of the issue oftentimes of so uh with that uh, i think this is another uh, perhaps photocopy of the beauty of the cd. You might have consensus and this is such um, a difficult concept to comprehend because Many Organizations, for example, the European Union is also supposedly based on consensus because, you know, there are many different ways to go about it. And sometimes consensus consensus is confused for uniformity. Uh, what are some of the ways of actually ensuring authentic consensus . The one that will preserve the goodwill on the country and preserve the spirit of cooperation and wanting to engage and go Forward Together despite all the challenges that the nations may have. Well, in fact, youll speak with a very low couldnt see about consensus already. Because even though i see it for one has been familiar with consensus even before. Um uh, the cold war. But uh after that uh at the u. N. O we oh uh, over the or nearly all the resolutions have not completed the football with the in principle unless and them to, uh, on the some exceptional cases because members prefer a consensus. So this is something that requires political will at the very beginning. So if you asked me whether we can differentiate between the authentic cause month, but then think i would say if political will, is that why not . Whether its the will that is a way, hm. Interesting now and other organizations with which your work and the sacs is brakes. And if the recently made the decision to include 6 new members and like the a cd breaks is also a loosely structures, consensus based group, which doesnt do mind uniformity from its members. And i wonder why do you think such a form as lose for my concerns is based and would, will based former is gaming. So seemingly gaining popularity in this day and age because Many Organizations are sort of moving towards that. Uh, 2 things. One is uh, the need for multi electrolysis that we, uh, uh, pass code for, especially uh, nowadays. But the multilateralism can be in any form with uh, in the uh, in the National Organization or not like 6 or a pick up. Uh the, the uh, the alpha is that uh we have our mackenzie said, uh, for example, for example, we are going to have a municipal real meeting in new york on the side line. So you in the this month, uh, followed by, uh, the 3rd somebody. Uh, next month, the car. So uh these uh, the mechanic systems of the ac. The sofa office and psalms and out the working groups and the ac. The blueprint . 20. 21 to 2030. Uh so when uh, all i in place that would be uh, another way to promote corporation. And of course, a Mutual Understanding with Mutual Understanding requires also mutual knowledge. How well do you think your members know one another because i have to tell you that even here in russia, we do not understand old variety that the organization agents are i to that the organization represents. Because if it is loosely spoke to the organization or informally nature, that would help uh, uh, create uh at most the off uh, friendship conducive to uh, payment thats, thats how im coming from. Okay. And dr. Ford tire, we have to take a very short break, right . Now, but we will be back in just a few moments state and the exception. 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But i wonder what effects it has on specifically your organization or on asian. In fact, i would rather not talk about politics, but only a few was asked to mention a sofa so cool. Within the city, especially in case of uh, russia which has been a member with us since 2005 specially, yeah, has been very active in this forum. And of course with Good Relationship with the office including history and that prevails. So uh, i believe, uh, they are doing fine. Mm hm. Now russia has long been a europe center, the nation both politically and culturally on its own people to asia is relatively recent and historic terms. I think it began in 2005, 2006 when a joint, your organization. How would you describe russia from mine, asian Vantage Point . What is this thinks about the russia as an asian nation rather than european nation . Not only that, russia has some, uh, parts of the country in asia, but also uh the policy and also the sentiments. Uh, not only of the gulf and, but also uh, people. Uh, this is uh, as far as im concerned. So uh, with that, i think this is the see if uh, the pitfalls of the, of the effect to that we, we need to rush, you have to be to be with us. Now i know that the worth asia originated in ancient greece and its 1st record if use is attributed to had a notice who reportedly used it in reference to an a totally or the person that im part in contrast degrees. So a asia originated as something other than the west, and i think historically for many decades, if not centuries, there was a distinct western africa to westernize asia. Do you think asian needs to be westernized . Well, as 630 general, i cannot speak for, for any country in particular, but in the overall perspective. And as far as im concerned, i could say that the us asia and can speak for a can. We can, we are free to do whatever is in the interest of asia. So with that, i believe with the, with denies of but not. And if its a non issue for us now, jo gressick was speaking, asia has both the highest and the lowest points on the surface of the earth. It also has the broadest variety of vegetation, any my life and human, a deputation, human culture, which could be a major treasure. But it also could be a major curse because you know, it creates conflict. Theyve created competition. I wonder what stands in, in the way of the asians using these diversity to the full extent to make sure that they benefit from those centers rather than still being divided by the old historical governments as well. Um asia is part of the international community. Uh, we try to be cooperative uh for example, in the context of s. C. Ts. However, many of us are still developing a least developed countries. So we need, uh, not only technology, but also uh, Financial Assistance from the National Organizations from donor countries, from a f. Hes associates a funds in order to help our self and to be adaptive, especially in terms of Climate Change and to comply with the competitors agreement. You mentioned Climate Change and the ac is also subject to the worlds wildest claim medic, extremes the content. Its the confidence where natural climate is felt most acutely and nature, as we know, doesnt usually recognize national borders, nor does it give advanced warnings. Have you seen any difference in how your Member States approach natural disasters or Global Climate is especially in the aftermath of they call the 19th . Um, i just came back from the pope and i, i saw it that the places of american so thats of course part of the type of change of what im trying to say is that we are planning to be responsible really not only uh, any particular country but uh, asia as a whole. Uh, this is what i have with this uh, sofa and uh how to do that is one thing. But the uh, conceptually we would rather be responsible and also uh, call for the duty to cooperate, to cooperate uh with one of them after not only 50 naisha, but also elsewhere to address the common concerns. The come on the, on the global issues is okay, can take him back a little while to they called at 910 sundown me for many a interNational Organizations. It was very challenging time and then that time of communication, it was a soft spring at most the international for what was it like for you and the organization at that time, do you think you have contributed efficiently to that crisis . Yes. Because of when we adopted the declaration, we called upon the members to organize meetings of Public Health ministries in order to address infectious diseases, including the depend they make and also uh go with 19 for one uh at the new york meeting we are suppose to go im not a declaration though, but a declaration which i to change the clause in the very same direction. So with that, i could say that we have our Firm Commitment to expressing infectious diseases. And also the basic uh, do you mean addressing them in for a chronic way or in a practical way . Because i mean, and the midst of depend demik and they were all the, all the declarations were already on the table and fine. But when it came to practical implementation, thats where the major problem was in my view, it has to be practical, of course, not only in a bureaucratic way, as you mentioned, not only about uh, the meetings of the Public Health ministries or related agencies, but also with the stakeholders like the private sector, which would come to be very much, not only in terms of Financial Assistance, but also uh, technology and know how and uh we, we have, uh, uh, our blueprint roofing which, which uh, talk about. Uh, the alternative medicine like uh, uh, Traditional Medicine or hook the boat medicine. Uh which would uh be something that people could have easily access to and uh, not so costly for that. So uh, if we talk about a guest kind of fad, accessible, uh, medicine, perhaps this one that you have a catch up one. Interesting, and you mentioned Traditional Medicine and it just occurred to me that many members of the a, c, d would consider themselves as countries where spirituality is still very much alive. Now. Sure, there are lots of religious and spiritual diversity within asian, but from my experience, with many of this countries, they believe that humanity. And despite all those differences is one family. I wonder if that spiritual dimension is helping your consensus building initiatives in any way or disability because uh, take a rush, you know, for one uh, do you have uh, what you call button. Yeah. Uh, treatment. And also how many . Uh, uh, medicine as well. So uh, why not uh, happy part of, of the treatment for people to be accessible and thailand for one the country where i came from has been promoting medical tourism. So its not only about uh, medical treatment, but all hospitalisation, but also uh 20 some that, that we can promote at the same time and its very lucrative. Makes money and also promotes the culture, promotes the traditional way as right. So yeah, yeah. One other question i want to ask you is about food and water security because you spoke about him being one of the pillars of the a. See, the framework is requires not only a recognition of national interest, but a somewhat expanded understanding of uh, you know, what is what it is likes to be human or what it, what is life to belong to human family. Do you think you remember, stays a fully practice what they preach when it comes to not only minding that own solver and interest, but also making sure that they rise and lets rise or they survive and let others survive to it. Is that the energy food and water secures the inter relationships and perhaps the kinds of boundary in nature when we talk about funds boundary issues. Uh it being step uh, not only one country may act alone, but it calls for International Cooperation of im the International Law i cannot tell, but recall the duty to cooperate. So if you asked me with a members serious about that, yes, they are not, not because it affect themselves or in that interest, but also they have that duty to cooperate in order to, to resolve it all in one and at the same time. And indeed at all levels. Well, thats important. I ever have to leave it there. Thank you very much for time. Thank you. And thank you for watching hope to hear again on walter part of the the the there is no end in sight over how youre going to continue to destroy the earth. Is the case of the med, most of the people. I tried to go to the gym, but im certainly not ready to fight russia. This is also absurd. 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