There is the warm and fuzzy life of a former president presented to the public. And then theres the real story of what a former president is doing, not only to hold on to power, but still use it to gain a seat at the table or dollars in their own bank account. The re election of bill clinton to a 2nd term was the end of the democrats being known as the workers party. And the beginning of the transition to the world parts. Government should do more. Not with us the, the pre eminent mission of our new government is to give all americans on opportunity policies which were focused on being corporate friendly with a shade of social liberalism. Taking the focus of the working class. Suddenly, the Democrat Party had been the champion of since the industrial revolution. Now, one of the largest pieces of legislation passed under president bill clinton with the north American Free trade agreement between the us, mexico and canada. And we greatly protested it by labor unions. Are present clinton also deregulated as well as pretty much eliminated the over side of wall street. This was a move which of many experts actually believe led to the 2008 crash of the stock market. And the economic recession, which followed. Now his wife failed 2018 president ial candidate. Hillary clinton is currently producing a new broadway show, which focuses on the Suffragette Movement spec producer. I will show up when she is not on broadway or in the media. Continuing to question the results of the 2016 election or complaining about this one. Can we . Uh yeah. Can we talk about the upcoming president ial . Oh no. Yeah. So we have to say to voters who are upset that those are the 2 choices to get over yourself. Those are the 2 choices. One is old and affective and compassionate. Has a heart and really cares about people. And one is old and has been charged with 91. 00 felony. She is working with her husband and one of the pretty much most known celebrity nonprofits, the clinton global initiative, which a boast on its own website, more than 4000 projects and partnerships, affecting people in more than a 180 countries worldwide. Now the latest country to roll out the welcome mat is ukraine, or c, g u crane Action Network was a launch last fall, and a collaboration with ukrainian 1st lady old lane is a link. But maybe this was more of return the favor of the Clinton Foundation was made a 5 year commitment by ukrainian businessman and all the guard victor pinching in 2008, a more than 29000000 dollars. It is complex to find the exact amount which has been raised, whereas all gone to from the clayton global initiative. But we do know the endowment. Hes in the billions, but with the effect president clinton has had on domestic economy. Its a, one of my foreign leaders continue to open up their doors and their own economic policies to the clinton global initiative. So lets dive into and discuss what power is held by for president bill clinton with our panel rating on podcast, host, and director of the center for regulatory freedom at the c pack foundation. Andrew langer and john jackson, who was the former chairman of the cab Democratic Party. Thanks for joining me gentlemen. Youre always start with you, john on this. So is the former president bill clinton, still a rock star within the Democratic Party today . Like he was during his presidency . I think it depends on who you talk to. If youre talking to your older primary voters who are going to vote democratic no matter what. Absolutely not necessarily with younger progressive voters or some of the voters, or im certain about turning out and november that the democrats needed to turn out in order to when hes very much considered part of the old guard, stablish of the party. And some of as far as policies from his presidency, arent even popular with the Democratic Base today. Lets interesting you say this, and so ive gotta run to you and youre on this. Do you feel like im a republican standpoint that having bill clinton out is actually helpful to basically those independents, or even those more establishment . Republicans, theyre having a hard time voting for job that they liked to see what the old time was been. Remember, a nicer time between republicans, democrats that existed under bill clinton on not so sure that bill clinton is particularly persuasive to republicans, or never trump republicans, per se. I think bill clinton getting try it out is really about what john says. Really about showing up the establishment, terry and base right to jump button as a real tough roto going into november. Im not the donald trump doesnt, but uh, but in terms of making sure that he can appeal to both the very progressive wing and other folks in michigan and wisconsin or minnesota, who are concerned about uh, you know, jo bidens policies towards this real, all the same time assuaging the more moderate to more pragmatic of the segments of the Democratic Party of the old school, the establishment, terry, against the corporatist. I think you laid out really well how, how do you know the clinton gore era ushered in the new democratic era . So i think its less about going after the soccer. Busy the never trump republicans really about making sure that they show up the widest Cross Section of the democratic, basically in the november. Well, and in this case you actually have a power couple probably was one of the more modern day power couples, cuz you had Hillary Clinton also involved. John, do you think Hillary Clintons last actually affected both of their standings within the Democratic Party . I think so. I think hillary is, is good for raising money. Shes good for making sure that your democratic super voters get involved with the election, which shes not going to bring any new boat to the table to. Were ready when you new to the coalition of our well joe biden. And that, and how did you see that andrew . Because hillary herself, is that just a reminiscent for trump . Does that kind of like easy game for him since hes already well practiced in going after her . I think its interesting because, you know, you think about of hillary, clint really is an aberration when it comes to democratic nominees for president. Right. I mean, you know, yeah, she was senator from new york and she was secretary of state. We could talk a little bit about her tenure secretary of state. But the reality is, you know, she represented the last sort of machine politician in terms of running for office. Yeah. She had the benefits of, of being a woman and a lot of Democratic Women voters want to see that was the reality is that the clintons of 2024 are, are very much in the vein of doing whats best for the clintons. You know, whether and the cleaning machine and the interplay between the Clinton Foundation of the clint global initiative, and to nail holdings and whatever other business interest that both mr. And mrs. Clinton happened to have. Its really about that and yes, you know, bill clinton wants to step in there and do the things that he does as a former president of the United States. And well, that our but its power thats, well good, very carefully. And generally in ways the benefit of clinton inc, well, is interesting to say that ethics, im gonna stick with your on this question. If youre talking about the client global initiatives, that sort of thing, and well get to the next segment. But i have to wonder, are there certain things, so that helps jo by with clinton being on the campaign. So are there certain groups, demographics, or even states, maybe Southern States, cuz joe biden does not do well in the Southern States at all. That clinton still has that appeal to listen. I dont know. I think that in terms of going after those based voters in the Southern States and making sure they come out, im not sure. Clinton quite has that cache. Sure. He was governor of arkansas, but he stopped being governor of arkansas in 1992. I mean, i dont think he spent a whole couple lot of time south of the baseball games. Obviously these south of washington dc. And all that time clinton is very, very much both clintons are very, very much new york politicians, northeastern politicians, california politicians, really the cache is making sure that they go after those establishment. Terry and voters within the Democratic Based who are, who might otherwise be concerned about joe biden, leaning more towards the progressive left. So john, weve just recently seen all 3 democratic president , 12th from current president , a former president altogether. Do you feel like there might be any animosity right now between Clinton Obama considering how popular obama and his wife still are, and obviously beneficial divided being out . Or do you say that theres any animosity the claims are kind of per se jealous of . I just think theyre, theyre upset right now. They feel like the bomb is to have done more to help hillary get elected in 2020. Whats the inner party, the dynamic right there. I think theres always been some tension because the whole bottom pulled and upset on hillary and the way she was supposed to be that nominee and then um, she did not. She was not able to repeat obama success. Shes never really at the christmas. Thatll bomb and did that, and thats why obamas coalition was much larger and, and why obama was able to get re elected. So i think, yeah, theres always going to be a little bit of tension there. But you know, i think that probably, uh, or even privately, youre not really seeing much of that animosity, but we, we know its, there was funny because publicly, unlike the democrats, the republicans are not. Youre not quite as the Donald Trump Campaign with former president andrew, why is that . Why is that . That republicans seem to not be able to accomplish, even if theres an, a mazda 3 between them. Theyre not gonna appear on the same stage. Why can republicans not put that aside for the greater good of a party, while democrats can a, well listen, i mean, some of it is about grudge holding. And i, and, you know, you know, in terms of the Democratic Power structure, its always been much, much more hierarchical. And by that, i mean, you know, theyve been much better about getting people in my, in line. You know, machine politicians, the machine politics generally comes out of democratic cities and democratic states. But then the reality is, i mean, most of the reality is, you know, both Political Parties and politicians. And both Political Parties have an incredible capacity to hold grudges. And i wasnt, i cant speak to what happens inside, you know, state and local Democratic Party apparatus is. I know that for instance, when i was a Republican Party official in maryland, i used to think that the Republican Party and marilyn was the most screwed up Republican Party and in all the nation, given the amount of grudges and backbiting and back stabbing that should occur until i realized that ever Republican Party in every state is the most screwed up dumb Republican Party in the nation. I, i dont know about that. On the democrats side. I do not know theyre better about getting people in line. The republicans are not quite as good at that. Well, im gonna keep you on here because there is a picture that circulating alon, its about, it was actually a donald trump and moloney is waiting you have and you had bill and hillary, great conversation. They were good friends, even part of that point. Do you think that actually helps or hurts donald trump to be that tied close to the claims . Is that something that continuously they bring up that he wasnt democrats as well . I mean, and thats just, it was one of those things where i, when donald trump was running in 2016 and every democrat was disclaiming any donation that theyd give it to him. I would have taken that much, much more seriously. Had they given those donations back, right. They, they kept the money which, you know, thats, thats what, thats what politicians do now. I mean, i dont think any of the salt water they, they tried this way, way back when in in 2015, 2016. Certainly it was tried in terms of denying trying to then i donald trump, the nomination in 2016. It didnt work then i dont think its i dont think its gonna work 8 years down the road was interesting. Jack, ender, i want to say right there. Historical fundraiser in new york city brought in more than 25000000. 00 and featured for president brock obama. Bill clinton. Do people really care about what bill clinton did one office . And if so, why is the claim global ownership still as active as ever . 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Yeah, yeah yeah, thats that way. Its too late, but yeah, welcome back. Im just going to hughes and youre watching the 360 view. I want to start the 2nd segment with the pro test, which abrupt it outside the Campaign Fundraiser in new york city. With the 3 top democrats, president joe biden, brock obama and bill clinton. However, well most of the large protest outside the radio city, music hall, as well as a few scattered inside the hall, were about the current role of the by the ministration and the cause. A conflict. Protesters also pointed out the long trail of blood, all 3 president s had left around the world. Lets discuss with radio podcast, host, and director of the center for regulatory freedom at the c pack foundation. Andrew langer and john jackson, who was the former chairman of the cab Democratic Party. Thank you so much for staying with me through on the break. John, im sorry to you because of bill clinton was easily re elected present because people were not as concerned or maybe didnt even know as much about the Foreign Policy, like the bombing of the medicine factor in sudan until several years later. Was he more shelter . Do you think from the public because we didnt have as much access to information with the internet like we do today . Yeah, i think politics was a different game back then. You didnt have a sound bites access to the sound bites. Social media that went viral. Like you do today in i, big democrats were more viable in, in different states. Back then when you think about some of the states that bill clinton won. I think that he was also a very popular president. So i think that it was very different error politics than we are in right now with, with just the mass communication, you get a b as a World Wide Web well, and or from a republicans, or even from the right side of the aisles. Perspective as theyre watching what was going on outside of the optics that went on outside of reducing music hall with all of the protesters. The ones that were going inside are republicans actually enjoying this protest. Its happening for within their party. Something that happens often on their public and side, are they capitalizing on this for an election perspective . And are they basically using the conflict happen in the middle east to continue to, to chip away at a jo bidens popularity within the zone party as well. You know, i think it comes down to, certainly this idea that republicans are, are much, much more unified on middle eastern Foreign Policy than perhaps they are on the Central EuropeanForeign Policy. But, but to get that back to your, to your question, to john, you know, there are a couple of things that were going on a jobs, right . And some of this has to do when youre ready, and some of that has to do with the, the, the, a transmission of information uh, the early stages of the internet. 1996. Lets not forget that bob dole was an incredibly weak candidate. Perceived is very angry and then when it comes to Foreign Policy at the time, right, you know, we, we were still president dealing with this, a mil. You wasnt work. That the politics for the United States ends at the waters edge. That sort of, we, we generally a, were agreed on as a nation to take as to what you know the us was doing Foreign Policy. Why . So the idea of, you know, Building Democracy abroad, especially in light of the, the, you know, the ending of the cold war. And that really didnt change until after 911. 00 the election of George W Bush and the, and folks a pastor towards that. And then of course, the 2nd goal for which i think changed to a lot of peoples perceptions as to how of Foreign Policy and use for policy can impact part of the politics. So there was a lot going on then and yes, were certainly in a much different mold. Yeah, i mean, listen, uh well, well, the Trump Campaign capitalize on descent within the democratic ranks. Sure, the question is whether or not that will really matter to the average democrats older, you know, and are you bring up a really good point that when expand on, right, theyre talking about how when youre looking at back, then it seems like Foreign Policy. We were a lot more unified. I think republicans and democrats were altogether, was like whatever conflicts we were on outside of our borders party. My party lines didnt matter. We were going to support the troops, whatever they were doing. John, do you think when, when did that change . You think, do you think thats how we see it now . Because now its this group, this president goes into this for in conflict. This president got it, and thats sort of the chain that was connected between clinton, obama and biden, is all the 4 conflicts. The 3 of them were able to get us into. Its now become more of a political issue necessarily than a unification. Almost patriotism issue i think it comes down to how popular the conflict is. I think um, you know, be in, um was just uniform like unpopular of both sides. Yeah. And i think and the error of George W Bush. You have quite a few republicans who at the end of his administration, work and support of all the countries we were in. And theres, you would say that you could say the trunk is the more part of the anti uh, intervention wing of the Republican Party. And he often classes with what you would call the bush neo conservatives. So i think its going to come down to how popular the conflict is and, and how, what the general public feels about about it. And i think when it comes to the gaza, which the us isnt directly involved and it is, it is in directly involved. And i think that youve got folks on the left in the right who are pro palestinian and youve got folks on the left in the right who are pro israel. So sometimes its not always simple to define it across party lines. And i think trumps actually making a play for live leading motors because its very critical, benjamin netanyahu. He sometimes shows in the deed for the lives of palestinian people. I see him kind of making a plane for some less leading motors, an inch and throwing is not really completely one side of the issue. Well, its interesting that you bring that, but i want to stay on this thing to do, bring up as real. And one thing that i personally see has been very damaging to the clinton brand. The quinn is everything has come out about geoffrey. Ive seen now grants of slow trickle on that. I know republicans obviously bring, ive, ive seen a lot john, how much is the ive seen file is really resonate within the Democratic Party. Do they care about potential damage to be debt again, can do to not only bill clinton, but any of their candidates that are over the age of 40. And i dont think weve gotten the full story on epstein, you know, theyve dropped all these names, but we dont have any context of what happened. Im not sure wherever. Gonna find out contacts what slowly happens with all the names that were dropped. Um, it seems like uh, anyone who might have been involved in something file is getting protected. Oh thats, thats my opinion. So im not sure its going to have an impact cuz i dont think were getting all the information that about that. Well, and thats the one thing. Yeah. You hear republicans, andrew talk about, ive seen a lot, they obviously throughout bill clinton, every time they bring it throughout Donald Trumps name, is this something that needs to continue to be pursued politically from the fact of does this damage democrats when youre talking about epstein and bill clintons involvement. Listen, ive just to just to go back to the question you have for john. I think democrats only care about Jeffrey Epstein in so far as they can make the case. The donald trump was on the, you know, the teenage express or whatever we would, we would call it out to sex island so, so, you know, beyond that they dont particularly care. I think Republican Voters are much, much more concerned in the end about what was actually going on with the bite and white house with the bite and vice presidency. And what was going on with hunter button. And they would be much better served by sticking to that, right. Listen, we do as a general principle need to get to the bottom of what was going on with Jeffrey Epstein. And the various leads that were traveling to his island. But in terms of the context of the politics of it, the republicans who remain focused on joe biden and the biden family, which, which incidentally, is like a mini version of clinton inc. Right . I mean, i think the bite and family was aspiring to be as successful at the clintons that you know, pairing policy and politics and money and making scads of money added. But bill clinton and Hillary Clinton and chelsea clinton, they are the masters and mistresses of all of this, which brings us to talking about the Clayton Foundation here. John, ive got to ask you, why does the claim Foundation Still exist . I mean, there has continued to be these controversies regarding projects, specifically like the one in haiti, the accusations of tax fraud, mysteries have donations down there. Money not actually going to the people that they fund raise it to is this damage and why do countries still open their doors to the clintons concern . If probably dont have much power, much connections in the white house as weve kind of discussed already. But they allow them to kind of have free reign of their country and raised donations that dont necessarily go to the street. I think while they dont maybe have bunch of power in government anymore, they still have a lot of social capital. They can still make things happen for people because of theyre connected to people all over the world. And, you know, i think i think that the foundation is, you know, a lot of positives have foundations or whatever. And working the clintons are unique as they have use their foundations to get filthy rich. And thats really what it is. A vehicle for the plans to get rich and to, well, their power, you know, their, their big on the game of power and they still will do a lot of power in different circles. And i think thats really what to put in foundation is about at the end of the day. And i think the more liberal progressive folks of the and the Democratic Party arent, arent necessarily fans of it. Well, its interesting that it seems like the more time in any of these scandals that happened, people kind of forget about our push to the size i go, well that happened 20 years ago. We have enough problems today. But andrew, there was a whistleblower hatch that came out and put in man in a memo, bill clinton mixers and matches his personal business with that of the foundation. Many people within the foundation have actually tried to caution him about doing this. So you done listen, and there really is no talking to him is what this whistle blower came out and said, how much does this damage and why is it Congress Actually looking into investigating the actions of the former president , even if they have nothing to do with current policy, why are they not looking into what is happening today with the foundation a while they tried to do it and it didnt go anywhere. And you go back to when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and the relationship between whom aberdeen we all, we all know, you know, her right hand. And a guy named Jacqueline Kelly who is at her left hand is a special envoy in the state department. And the fact that at the time that whom aberdeen and deck when kelly were both working for Hillary Clintons the state department, they were also working for an entity called to nail holdings, which was a for profit lobbying organization with Major Corporate clients of which bill clinton was the honorary chairman, and so you had the interplay between donors to the Clinton Foundation, who are also clients of denial holdings, who are doing business with the state department. You have whom aberdeen and deck on kelly and others. And, and so this goes before congress, i may have some investigations, but nothing really comes up. Theres no accountability at the end. Hillary clinton loses the 2016 president ial election. So congress figures, you know, whats it, why, why, why bother continuing this any further to me that was always, by the way, the greater scandal that needed to be investigated in terms of Hillary Clinton. It wasnt the server, it wasnt been guys, even those were important. But it was again, it get change, found with what joe biden was doing is Vice PresidentUnited States, the self dealing to the benefit of one self and ones family by using their official positions. These are the things that we need to actually have investigated. The reason why theyre not being investigated now is because Hillary Clinton hasnt been anywhere near an office. Bill clinton has been anywhere near a Government Office forever. And by the way, its got a real quick because you asked about why folks are still supporting. Its because the Equipment Foundation can get huge sums of corporate money, whether its clients of 10, a or others, and donors to other foundations, like the rockefeller foundation, etc, etc, and connect those people with folks in power in those countries who make huge amounts of money. Theres a reason why, and im let me add they dont want to solve these problems because if you solve the problems in places like 80, then you cant, then you can make money off of fundraising on them down the road. And thats where the money is. A, its on the fund raising of the corporate interest and perpetuating the problem. So im going to give john the last word on this john, what role do you think the claim should be playing within the Democratic Party . Not only this election year, but any role moving forward. You know, he will never do this, but he should sort of step aside and raise money for the next generation of the Democratic Party. He cant speak for the Democratic Party anymore. Theres frankly, theres nothing to gain from it. People like bill clinton are ready going to get out and vote for joe biden. And so he needs to step aside, just continue to raise money, dont be a surrogate. Youre not going to help bring new people to look or listen, just raise money for democratic victories. Well, i am grateful to both of you for allowing me to capitalize on your knowledge of the clintons and their influence on the current political race and design your radio podcast, toes, and director of the center for regulatory freedom, etc. Pac foundation. And john jackson, former chairman of the cab, Democratic Party, thank you so much for joining me. The scale he has, and this has been in your 360 do. Thanks for watching the, the winds largest democracy votes the rest of the planet watches in an emerging multi polar world. Indias voice matters. But who will be the power behind watches, almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react the mara may have. Oh yeah. Yeah. Thatd be about now sometimes when he doesnt know the face sometimes the he might not be a make me happy at the adult right then same i went on the