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So when question, i think this is the 1st time in our history that we have clarity and vision in terms of what he wants to achieve, the hello and welcome, im unable to the ever evolving landscape of the 21st century. The focus now more than ever is on india. I my guess when i did an Indian Business executive, an angel investor, the shock one shocked parents, india and the founder off in the oldest online matchmaking service. Shoddy dot com that is going on with them at the thank you so no problem. Can i find the dog . Say my name. I know how to be sharing my name with you. So am i what decided about to keep your name . I know from my mother and non you decide to okay, and you know, it was still in a new shouldnt name when i was born. You know, it means unique not competitive, but not comfortable. Thats a better definition and comfortable. So there are 2 people sitting at i knology for boundary content anywhere. The only difference is one person has 15000. 00 and the other person does the infecting, goes but, and of course made a lot of hardware and, and the parents blessings, the karmic people. Yeah, the leaving the site looked like yes. What did your father do when . What is his name . His name is gopalakrishnan, the easiest boss to be, uh, earlier this year. Uh, god, best a. So my dad uh, you know, comes from a very young, blue background. His father died when he was about 16 years old. Any of 4 sisters and 3 brothers to look often and not this time. So he has to stop school. I need pick up a job which paid him under the bees month. Im gonna cut off and show the sony most of them by and by the time he came to me by his started do, will it be better and done the salary . And then i was born and i saw him to walk my life spending, you know, 16 hours a day and look up building a life for himself and i was, but he brought it up as business has been fixed. And so he had a job and then made enough money to set up his own businesses. He set up factories and dont move a lee in building b, which are far strong, some ups of them by and become an industrialist and his own right. And to come from nothing at that point because they did it and sort of just forced independence in the he was born and then sort of the opportunities were not as much as they are today. Right. And the only way you could do it is to shield hardwood, the combination and when, you know, i have huge respect and admiration and hes my role model. In many ways, e started out as a very strict aggressive father in some ways. But it was the 2nd half he had become so philosophically and you know, he was very spiritual is view i buttons become a, become over time knocked about what you can do for me. What, what can i do for you . So i remember i spent 10 years in the us and then i used to call you i had only 2 questions used to say, are you happy . Id say yeah that and say do you need something . Id say no, its okay. Talk to them. All right, so there was never any. When are you coming back . What are you going to do that . What do you mean the mon for it was always what can i do for me . And so i think that was really powerful and enabling for me as an individual, but your understanding of that then that it was popular that happened later on. It happened later on i in fact kind of part of for the loose. Yes. I felt that was in the us can be more things was in the more involved in my life. So at some level like kind of held it against him for a very long time and you picked up on that. But you know, as a introspect and i look back, i think it gave me the freedom and the wings to be able to do it will go anywhere and do anything without having to feel the pressure off of my going. I have to, you know, a dealer by my duty of being the only son and biggest my parents. My father was a lot of came to photos department. They, they, i believe a book was essentially an engine. So when i made it and movies, every conversation will end up, can you send me some more money . So after sometime it started editing. So i said, if you finish a conversation with that, i will not talk to you for calling me. Ive been used to and then say, are you listening to what im not saying . Mm. And so means basically saying the same thing. Yeah. And many bust of it, and i ran into some law and im a native and ive been to some like to do is be a set of many thousands of people can because he was very popular as a bus. And he was very helpful. And then what about 50 people in the line to say thank you to me. I need this head to 50 people. He said he was running out of homes. Wow, that was what he was doing with the money that i was handing. That is so amazing. Unsung no, not announcing non and onto yeah, thats very much like my father of and he just bought to be a decent fee. There were people who are there from far flung areas of india and we was hoping 12 his life. But he never told us either. Right. So yeah, i can totally understand. I think its very powerful than a lot of people to give. But very few people to give on announced what made you come back during the after 10 years, because i saw my dad working 16 hours and you know all the time doing business. Thats the only thing i knew as a teenager. I tried a few different businesses and i tried working with my dad as well since he had his business, but nothing was working out. And because i was kinda young and brash and perhaps it was very different at that point, right . Were talking, you know, 9 piece now. You know, i mean there was just opening up as a country. We were still a very close socialist society. So i kind of blamed the city, you know, this is all because theres no opportunity of people dont get it. They dont give up their word. So im going to go overseas. So i took off the, on a, at an order of money. I came back home with my tail between my legs that i sent me your paper off the problem is that the audit . Yeah. So this thing i send us us is whether dreams. I mean, india that i grew up, it was very thought, dont know why that was socialist in some respects. You know, we never said anything against you either. I should be sure said something, gloss you never actually questioned that. And the modus operandi was the pieces were read out the books and tasks, and you used to just sit in this new oh god that i said, i can do this at home. Why my offending costs . And very interesting, even though is in the us, the 1st in gloss and one of my co store and the 2nd, the peach of steve. I dont agree with you. I was shocked to, i said, 1st of all, youre calling the visual by his name. And secondly, you say, you dont agree with the beach. I was that even the boss and i said youre in probably the boy, but does out steve the professor, he said, tom, why dont you agree with me . Can you show perspective . I mean, orange, the said and off of that uh, you know, he shared with us how is it . Im like super spit the slip in the same problem. But my life change. I kept my hand up all the time just because i could say, i dont agree with maybe even if i agree. And what i realize at that point and in the subsequent time is that your perspective regardless of what it matters site and that was confidence. And i think from there i was able to take away a lot, and in fact, i would call those my former computers here in the i was always in trouble. I was getting the bad company. I didnt know what i wanted to just because i was getting close to 4 weeks a bed i started to believe in was and once that happened, you know, i got a job after college, it took me a while to find a job one. So what im in ok, did that work ethic. I started to believe that i could do anything i could build anything. And so i, you know, after a 10 years that i said look, maybe its time to be proud and melancholy. Right . Maybe its time to get back to mom and dad and you know, ive been to the father long enough and, and thats kind of when i decided that look, lets set up a company thats set up a business. Lets see how it does. And if it starts doing well, i move back and back with 10032004. This and i move that forward. And i do need to set tradition point and came back on because generally further that its time to do something for. And then you achieve, you want to move on. Thats right, thats what your graph sales life. Not only as a successful businessman or the burner, but the other person on. Yeah, it was a couple of things. One, the company that i was working in, you know, this was off the dock. Com inclusion happened. And so it was going to its own struggles. So i knew that theres maybe not a very long future, a Bright Future here, but in badly i did have job offers from other companies, wanted me to come in as one of the co founders or early employees and they were getting, by the way, in my early twenties and the company i was working in, i visit not quite trafficking and i was a multi millionaire in my on the 20. And by based on paper, the fact remains that after that i lost it all and i became bank draft and i moved to india and i was actually in debt, which i prepared off before i moved there because of some bad decisions. But ive done very well for myself, so there are other companies that i wanted to hire and they offered me ex salary, which was always in 6 fingers for somebody in the early twentys. I mean, you can buy any car you warranty can live anywhere you want. And they offered leadership positions, but i always had a condo for them in terms of all for that site. But what was more like with nobody quite we couldnt bridge, did they have matches locations . You dont have that stage in life. I dont know how in more of your Decision Making is it becomes more about ok. You didnt give me what i want, or maybe im going to do Something Else as opposed to maybe. So what, you know, lets, lets find a way to, you know, meet off. So i think it was a bit of that and it was a bit of which, but i couldnt, i want to do something big. My dreams will becoming bigger because i just seen this whole internet thing. The come something in the us and i knew that its going to take or the world at some point. So my dreams are becoming bigger. At the same time. I was feeling separation, anxiety. You have been yes. So many years of 3 of the circles have created this friendship. Im this lifestyle. I was going to give it out. So i did something. What i think 9 side was very smart. I started spending more and more time and, and getting the so 1st year i spent 34 months next to i spent 6 months and so it took me 3 years and to complete the transition. In fact, after i move back, yes for 2 years, i did not even give up the home that i had been slipping. Then from here because it was just such a big decision. I to let go of everything that id spend 10 years doing is that when you started chevy dot com. Thats what i started because you can kind of try to shut the door. Come in america. Actually i did. You did. I did. Did as well in india that point this is lot has changed, but had a Software Engineer was 7000 would be someone who had a designer, it was 5000 a piece a month. So i had done one of my vacations, hired a 70 people. It was like an opening of editing the paycheck that i was getting right. It was nothing. It was 500. 00 a month. And you know, my dad had some office space which was kind of like, you know, behind the college shed, which was just the room lying around. So i started using that and then i used to work nights. So with that more light thing with these guys trying to think of different businesses, thatd be due. And he actually started a bunch of business and ive sorted a couple of them since then. But of course charlie dot com became the most popular. So thats how people know me, but be launched. My gone dot com, the launched a couple of other gaming businesses. The, the one of the 1st and the computer launch a gaming business. But charlie dot com. Interesting. Lee was a very unique story because one of the yours when i was here in india, i was very independent. So my dad at that point the, i develop the choreography and a friendship, so he wouldnt tell me. And as i said, he will use if somebody, philosophically what can i do for you know, what can i do for me . So he will never put the pressure on me. Thatd be you should get mad it in these meet disperse. And so one day as i was sitting some, a gentleman losing his, my dads friend came in. Right. And you know, typically, additionally that matchmaking happened in india and you know, very soon within 5 minutes of the conversation, i was pretty clear with us because you know, you open up the briefcase on my desk and he started pulling or bio d. Does what i called really entreat to because i was just coming from us when everything was back in a way. And then it was just becoming a thing. I said, how many of these body does new gaddy me . You said, oh, i got a about 5060 in my bag, but i have more you want to see more no noise. How many people do you know in your community . You said maybe 200 or so. So i said that for my choice of life buckner is limited by how much weight you can get in how far you can drive it. Like, oh, here he looked at me a little confused and possible and maybe a little insulted. I said, look, im not trying to the media business. My only point is why dont you give me all these . I have this team of people be a bidding different, but this is, do you want to take them and put them on the internet . Yeah. Now any this in the word we can find the, you know, person of their dreams. Why just limited to me. And he said yes, but he looked at me as if i was crazy and he never came back. The idea was mine. And so he said, look, this is interesting. And so we see that itd be, be this website i went back and whats the phone . Whats the need for this service . Whats much more pronounced in america in the you can because these are geographically dispersed indians wanted to connect with like minded people, and then Network Stable very small and some desktops or to take off. So be focused on the anybody that didnt have much of an incident. There was only a 1000000 people on the internet in their main like that for can you see that . So the business started to grow and youll established offices in the us. You can kind of bid it out and then i move back as i said in 2004, and that became a success overnight or no, it took a while. Right . Yeah, itll be overnight. Success story is twin deals in the making all the way. See it, right, right. Its just that when people see it, they suddenly see it. Of course we started 2002003 with 14 focus and gusto. And i think it took a few years and we started seeing some form of success. So do you think that the 2003 we had in 2024 . Know how come its still so theyre living, they seem to be now in india also having live in relationships, we are much more a different out look towards life, body relationships matters and thing that what these people who use or how did you meet 2 of life one of them we were best offend your best of yeah. You know, i actually just posted a video and instagram recently talking about the secret to successfully managing it. So and i said in that that if you want to successfully manage mario best thing, may somebody even talk to a lot because after a few years thats all you will be doing thats i absolutely back right here. And, and so you and i perhaps lucky, smaller percent that just that happen to have that. But for the vast majority and this a great question. You said, why is it still relevant for the vast majority . This doesnt happen, but what happens in india, marriage is not if pushed it so when crushed lights on the diamond a child, theyre talking. What do you manage at by somebody as indians, we love celebrations that it is marriage. And if a man has lived enough, then its death or thats as much as we just need any of these and to go on the streets and don. Yeah, i always, i know you have the confidence to do it open and open, you know, live you sonya during the home so she knows about yeah. Yeah. Overseas the music, but i havent used to walk around with the heads down not to be c. Like now we do it aloud. I do think so. I think its been a major consultation. I think its fine. The people are proud to be right. Whether its your passport ranking, whether it is your diplomatic relationships, whether the softball leadership is very important for any organization that its a country, whether its a company or any pursuit. And i think since independence, theyve had some buckets of strongly into shipping by and large. Weve been confused to i think this is the 1st time in our history that we have clarity and vision in terms of what we want to achieve. And i think that is very important. The 2nd thing is the kind of leadership is not shy about who we are and our background and i, st. We dont apologize for the identity. Absolutely. I had all these years. The somehow been reading a western cloak coming towards the side, but pretending to be something they are not i. And when you start opening up an embracing, we why . I think the people respect you more for the exact right. And so thats what i see happening on the 3rd fact that of course, is economic success. As soon as you become a mock that people want to be and as opposed to a lender snake chalmers, an elephant, and anybody now suddenly wants to be so far as i mean. The recent more these situation is a great example of softball. Right . And our ability to influence people and the word based on ourself by what, in a market economy. And its only a situation like this. You can tell google that. I dont like you. Yeah. Yeah, thats true. Thats what you did. I did and, and i will continue to what is the issue of the americans . Why eventually they do get to that came on, ah, please like theyve done with be going, but they call, theyve broken all of these up over the years, right. Theyre very reactive in nature, right . Sometimes its too late. And because of their companies that are creating a monopoly, sometimes it benefits them because they are going on to the monopolies all over the world. So its better for us to be me good at these situations, but what youre seeing, the google app, or to some extent is they have on our lodge swedes of the internet system to bundling and walk out and payment on, or monopolistic behavior and made it very difficult for anybody else to process but, and thatd be persistent, right . So google, it says if you think about it is really a beneficiary of unbundling. Microsoft, microsoft used to bundle it internally, explore a browser to which you could access the internet with the operating system in which but their software moving for the case and broke that bundling up. So they could introduce chrome, which is the browser to which we are now experience the internet. So they themselves, a beneficiary off and be helpless to action. But i completely agree. Company wants to be a monopoly. So i dont blame them as much as i blame governments, particularly in the west. Not good. I think the situations in time because, i mean im to put all ship suffers, innovation suffers, customers suffer because they have less choice. What incentive do i have as a monopoly . To give you better price single, better products, because im already a monopoly. So i think thats what google has done today. In india, if you want to run it into the business, youll pay google 2030 to 40 percent off your revenue as advertising, because thats the only way to access customers. And thats fed, i think, to some degree thats that which is almost wide with us. But now what theyre saying is, you would also be anywhere between 15 percent with 30 percent off field avenue was if you want to be on our app store. Wow. So if im willing to pay 60 to 70 percent of my revenue to google, how am i going to survive this . And i think this is the thing that we missed as a company. What did you think about china and it had me a handy or every one of these entities very close and given protection or not even for i wont even say production of please give it a level playing fee while domestic companies. Right . Because the internet on a couple of days, a weapon to start just all the media, and its everything on your data, everything besides, you can use companies to be able to pick it out. So if we had done that, id be able to have had 5 companies to in search, in email, in social media, which would each be what 100000000. 00 to wonder. But in addition to the 34. 00 companies that you already know, that could be transform nationwide for the country, these would become Global Companies and die right. Of course, the misstep both and thats fine. But at the same time, i ended, i dont you called at the head of the all these companies as an indian, isnt that great . How do you think in the present situation, we can come through this or we can handle this . I think theres a couple of this one is a more passively which is, you know, and ccr has already actually passed a very strong order against google. Google is simply not implementing it using clicks of the tree, and we should have learned globally and trying to squirm out of it. And thats why i said that they really end up being a very heavy benefit to you and badly for them because theyre playing with the law. And todays dispensation and government doesnt take that life. So i think since you have is come, dont have any of this of the order on that, which is Competition Commission of india. So one is a passive, it already can play by using organization such as c, c. I will ensure that there is no monopolistic behavior in the level Playing Field is available to everyone and nobodys taking advantage of our ongoing companies. But i was small and medium in the process, right . Thats certainly one the other ways, a more active way, which the government has already been doing. So if you look at u b i d, b, i the only country your credit cards are struggling because you guys become the preferred model statement. Absolute. I think companies that would be medically expressed its 4 percent from the merchant is highlighted already is free. What are the kind of what a piece of english amazing. I 2nd his own nbc, which they have time to do for e commerce. What they did for being told is our health initiated, which again create common Public Infrastructure for those to bring up on me, we can do the same thing for that stuff that shift to shop there. Yes, i find it very exciting and theyre finding that c o w as an actor. What im no acting up being myself, but theres some drama youll see a this is actually as real as it gets b, c, the richard who comes on stage to pitch. When you see, you have no idea who the pictures you walk on stage and the see the farm to come in. But youre right. I mean, you know, theres better than anybody else as soon as a camera worked on you. Yeah. However, the old a show is that is some drama that comes in because you know, and you know that a theme cameras on shop. And so, you know, you become a performer that some of them may laugh to an interest in acting out on an acting school. So i, i detect a possible act or something that, oh yes, you are john, one of the most popular acting schools for the longest time. I felt it was not, you know, deep down. Maybe it was something i cherished or add value for, but you wont be always putting down, growing up, right click on do anybody you go right. This is all the books i read on adult. Absolutely. I remember that when we had all of us had black and black and white televisions, and then mr. Model, it that was sort of by the novel was in my next door, you go to color good in this week and were going to deal with it. Thats what we said that hes a good man. Yeah. You have to justify for yourself. Yeah, i dont. Right. And so for the longest speed it i was, i wasnt that gab at this point in my life. I think im really enjoying the role that i play on shock bank. And i dont know if i have the patients or the talent, be very honest to be an actor, right . Ive experienced what it is uh, you know, waiting invited events doing it in shock. Thank. Do you have a different floor. Might be a busy to out of the car someplace is driving actually organization like patients. Not like that. And okay, the united way than i did. Yeah. But i dont have that. I couldnt be sitting waiting for one shot, doing one shot, and then wrapping up and waiting. Thats one seconds. I dont think i have the bad code. I think im far more effective, given everything ive known is to continue furthering onto pro shipping this country. Building companies, so i think might impact that so which is as far as each ad relation and the recognition. Im now getting to shop by the list that part is inactive because thats what and i think thats the only part that perhaps is very interesting is an act on a name for that is you get to play so many different professions and understand so many different facets because you have to do some level of research whenever you please. So i can get it to. I think i find the equity compelling one that you would be, i think you think a 100. 00 a 100. 00 and then not. And thats a good thing that can happen because you must do something that you think youve got to take you out of your comfort. So yes, ive read somewhere that you of x pitcher the bus and what is good to 100. If you know, we are seen as a land of believers because we have directly so many gods, but reality, historically issue located, we are lando seekers and spirituality, to me is really about seeking. And you know, when you said you are restless, right . But thats, thats whats coming to or s listeners and confusion is the most creative state of affairs. Thats why i dont, i have not had a so called traditional holidays. Yeah. And all these 40 is that a book . I dont think i have gone to some beach in thought of late on and then. Yeah, i can do that. I have not done. I can do that myself. Yeah. Nice on the people to that. Why do, why are you so restless . Why do we keep on doing that . Keeps me well to am. So youre more often angels than a shock. Im more do that and sure. I dont know if the phone, those who come and shop thing would agree with you. They think im always trying to get the better be. But yes, to answer that question in one word, a split to try to be a seeking and there is no end to seeking. Thats right. Thats where you can go on. It was a pleasure talking to you on the same here on the phone. Thank you so much. Wonderful. One lovely, lovely talking do and thank you for watching. Joining me next week for the intimate yet engaging debate only on lets stuff out of the amount of im a kid. Im a scott. The take a fresh look around his life. Kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to vision with no real live indians. Fixtures, design to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen for you. Fractured images, presented as 1st. 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