Seeking to balance that . Yeah, theres little doubt that the g 7 had the unusually heavy influence within the g 20. And i think this is an attempt to play in this to try and balance. Thats due. We need to have the concerns of the developing countries reflected more realistically at the international level. How does that translate then into actual concrete progress . What would you like to be seen from offering . Well, its not just africa, it is the developing world is facing certain specific economic challenges. And unfortunately what is being happening is that the way its creation is happening primarily in the west. Yeah. And instead of directing these funds that the west has access to, to infrastructure and Development Projects in the developing countries, this money is still residing if that is the right for me to in the risk. So the whole emphasis and the aim of the indian presidency up to do 20. Whats the good except to try and make sure that not only to global institutions get reform, but the fundamental philosophy that underlines them also is james towards sticking on board. The developmental challenges faced by the developing, what is the g 20 the, the correct format for the for those boys to to be hurt because we do know in the past month or so they the bricks and everything has in large theres, theres quite a waiting list as well, and that includes african nations with john. We believe from the start of january n, e c o b a on egypt, among them they believe it seems that there are future lives within that bricks. Family. Now you dont, its not unique. You can go and you can, you can go in different groupings, but particularly it seems that bricks is catering for that. So in that regard, this is the g 20 in one way a little bit. The felt as compared to what bricks is doing . No, i wouldnt say that it was in fact uh, i think, you know, this is a problem that we have faced historically. Uh, we have always since the fortys and the more progressive minded intellectuals have always spoken about the demise of capitalism. Unfortunately, capitalism has found new ways of reinventing it says, and therefore is very strong. The 2nd aspect is you cannot forget that the rest has more than 30 percent of that was to be. So they all part of the world and it is good to involve them in the development of the was this is one was, this is one family and all hows the Prime Minister says . Absolutely. So therefore, trying to create blocks which are separate from each other, would not be the right way to go about it. Which is why the bricks is not an end to western organization. It does not have the rest in it at this point of time. But if you look at the, the projects on the ideas that are emanating from the breaks. Uh, countries i think that influence on the rest is visible. Its just my point is that you look at groupings work, you know, theyre there to, there is issues within breaks. Of course, there are some regional arrival rates, etc, but they seem to be rolling and in the one direction. When it comes to the g twins, youve laid eyes to positives, but youve also got very disparate and often use that they want to reach a western country is very different from at one in the global size as compared to what their priorities are currently. So if youre wrangling at either side, its very hard for, for me, for progress to be made in that regard. And thats my point is that perhaps smaller group, things were more like my, its a good start together. Thats going to be more of the future. Where it is maybe to there will be multiple groupings. I mean, for example, india, india is a member of bricks and as a member of the 20 s c o cord, multiple organizations, smaller organizations. But each of these organizations reflect specific interests. And so youre going to have countries aligning with each other depending on their areas of interest. Youre absolutely right about that. But at the end of the day, we cannot forget that a all the, the Global Economy is one. We are looking at the risk which is attempting to enact certain protectionist measures, whether its the Inflation Reduction Act in the united states, or the carbon tax and the u. N. That is something the developing world doesnt want. The developing world needs globalization in the feel sense that existed earlier because those are the benefits, the developing was would like to draw. So it is important for us to ensure that the west is part of that exercise or i, but i agree with you. There are many views and many uh, interest you know, the best as which our country to the interest of the developing was. And we have to find ways to finish that. The reason i bring it off is because in the build up to this, youll have read as many as maybe articles saying that this is the opportunity for western countries to and persuade, and nations not just within the g 20, but partner nations as well. Weve got the likes of finally dash you a number of nations here. So is that happening . Do you think this weekend . Especially when vladimir put and then she didnt ping are not to your that western nation full time persuade. Get a kind of Greater Coalition to go against nations such as russia and china. But you know, 2 things have to be kept in and all nations goes to the national interest. The g 7 has a particular interest and theyve been pursue it. And but i started to the g 20 is but the economy low rate, the g 7 actually could. But im saying this weekend, the g 20. Thats what it, thats what its focus is. But it seems as if politicize ation has slid in. Yes, absolutely. I mean, politicize ation. So theyve been at the last uh, summit in body. So here is video, the ratings. Once the do you need gets out of the buckle, its very difficult to put it back. But india is trying to do that. They want, they want to know when the, the global science. So yeah, because india sees its priorities and its interest in a completely different area. And youre absolutely right. G. 20 is primary and economic body. And it should look at the Economic Issues because for india to use the primary challenge is economic development. So that audit insightful it as a zation. And thats what i was driving as youre saying that the g 7 has particular interest. Theyve been pursue them. That is to be expected, but at the end of the day depends on how all the rest of the countries view their interest and how far they are willing to compromise. Kind of is interesting as well. Of course, because you the teach with the has all the members of the tea, 7, all the members of bricks as well. You know, thats one dynamic going into this weekend at, can i get your thoughts on an the joint communicate that will be applied at the end of this event . Its the ukraine conflict is, is, is, i dont know if i should use the word overshadowing, but it seems to be the focus of many western countries. And they want that hammered home in the, in the joint remarks. A lot of other countries saying, as youve been going through, well, weve got a lot of issues that we want to get through on the we want this joint communicate at to be released. But, russian, china are their, their argument that this has to be about the, the economy trade, etc. This would be the 1st time in history that a joint communique is not released. Do you see that as a viable issue . Do you think that could happen this weekend . What right now, diplomats, even as we speak, i said trying to find some kind of consensus, but i agree with you with the john says that uh, the communicative will be headed hostage to western interesting on ukraine. And therefore not happen is a possibility to exist. But i still think that the of the world will come to a consensus on this after all the conflict and ukraine does effect all of us in many ways, whether its because of the sanctions or because of other disruptions. So it is not something that can be completely ignored, but i think we will find a common position on maybe just to expand on russia and china are, are not here at the president s for perhaps the different reasons. And what was that was the disappointment for india. The lack of president clinton is definitely a disappointment. President fulton would have been welcomed in this country. There would have been an opportunity for president fulton and mister monday to meet they havent met for that annual summit. And also to us, so this would have been a great opportunity to discuss some of the problems that have cropped up, but bilateral relations between russian india they, theyve been good on their, theyve been historic as well. They go back a long way. It would also go a long way to show that mister fulton is not isolated, as the rest would like to show. But maybe it was not what it had been boris Prime Minister, moody, if he came and would have started speaking. And there was perhaps a walk out, you know, i, i would say that if mister fulton not coming is a blessing in disguise because it saved in the embarrassment of protocol and problems. You know, how do you do the group photo . Where do you see mr. Porter . Not the do not and things like that. But nevertheless, the point is that india is a friendly nation and puts in would have been welcome. The 2nd point i would like to make yes, mr. C. And put in a lot of yeah, but that doesnt mean that countries are not represented very much to the chinese view in the russian view. Will be put forth by a very, a believe by the Prime Minister of china as well as the following, missouri go to russia. Yes. So, and hes in orlando this. Yeah, he knows exactly what he has to say. So therefore, i dont think there is going to be any significant loss in terms of inputs at the g 20 all structure and all the time. I just personally because youre somebody whos spent a lifetime looking at things like this, what would you like to see . Come i to all of a summit where the most important leaders of the world come together. Theyve got a chance to, to shape history. What would you like to see the big focus on come monday. But i would definitely like to see the big focus on 3 or 4 issues which are related to the economy. One is of course, Climate Change is a major challenge. And i think what people dont realize is that developing countries are being asked to develop or go through the process of industrialization and without using fossil fuels. This would be the for the 1st time in history of any nation or any countries, a group of countries will have to industrialize without fossil fuels. This would require entirely new resources, both financial human as well as technology, technological. So the developing well definitely needs help and even if the finance has come on in terms of we one, the point is the technologies do reside mostly in the restroom on some of the made reside in china and russia. But it needs everyone to come together to meet these common challenges. Then of course there is a Digital Partnership infrastructure partnership. Uh there are all these of, you mentioned about clean energy. So all these are the issues that i would think the joint community should address. Yeah, hon if you can is not mentioned. I dont think that would be a great loss. Im just finally finally at, by next the year when the, when the 100 over of the g 20 from india to brazil happens. Could it be by rocks, handing it over to present it was, you know, if you look at the Institute Constitution of india, you will see that it starts by saying was not exactly starts with the article, say is in the that is but it, so moderate and in the book to say that part of india, it was just interesting because it was on part of the the g 20 dinner invitations to leaders. And it didnt mentioned india that only by rod leaving too much speculation, but it is not uh, yeah, a significant it is a political country was in india interesting, but it is not unconstitutional that. Well, thank you so much for your time and delving into all those issues with us. None done. Any christian on to for correspondence in russia, as you said on distinguish fellow up the Observer Research foundation. It was a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you for inviting. Thank you sir. All right, so a lot more going on. Of course, over the next 48 hours in the run up to the g. 20 summit. Here in new delhi reports ive been circulating in western media, all of and you charm offensive. On the global side, one of the issues we just talked about, the presuming goal is to distance those nations from russia and perhaps china with the leaders of both states. As mentioned, absent from the event with both the chinese and russian president s staying away from the to day gathering in new delhi b. U wants to seize the moment according to people familiar with the preparations, who ask not to be named, discussing internal strategy. The 27 nation block aims to show that it is serious about redefining its partnership with africa. Despite the troubled legacy of colonialism, they said it looks like the European Union has become that guy. The one who schemes to hit on you at an event when they find out be or significant other wont be there. Sounds like African Leaders attending the g 20 in the absence of russia and china are going to have to put up with being backed across the room by western officials getting all up in their personal space. Like every tree does at night clubs. The western process reporting that the e u is planning to avail itself of global summit as an occasion to step up. Its outreach, getting all touchy feely with the global so on the sidelines were sounds like something for which you need a safe word. Well, i would at the club so that youre best he can come and rescue you. Its not like you leaders have been to settle about their intentions, either german chance or all off. Schultz made a trip back in may to African Union headquarters in ethiopia. And then ask that jerry wanted the g 20 to make it official with the African Union. We want to support the African Union and get them to sit in the g 20 so that it can participate and have a same decision making. African must play a bigger role in international relations, a role that does justice to the continent and its growing population given to africa is currently on us free of cruise that effectively inject european new colonialist interests that have been getting a little too handy with African Resources for far too long, africa just might not be in the mood to entertain western promises of commitments, which so far have yet to materialize or the usual western pick up lines either. For example, here, zambia is Opposition Leader putting silver tongued playboy washington in its place during Vice President carmel harriss visit. The country that does so many governments enough that does lead so many cause enough income and other parts of the world. The country that does acute mental go any does enough and other parts of the world the key level puts us. Remember, those are the Proper Department for room those and why my goodness today are coming to, to just about the american Vice President s trip is part of the western seduction strategy. Born of fear that africa just might want to data around specifically with russia and china. Its the kind of cleaners that typically comes from in security. They only seem to ever want to be bothered making an effort when they feel that they have competition, which apparently hasnt escaped the attention of experts. These uh, basically desperately overtime costs africa is showing slipping out of the tubs. If you look at the going ties between beijing and also the gap between most claim africa, i think it does have very much considerable and much more viable and friendly alternatives in terms of developing partners in the russia and china. And you just have to wake up and smell the coffee for you as far as seats. In apartment c, the un security calling you in the future, give it to us for whatever reason. And so when decisions i was thinking, i forgot the point, why suddenly i very a sense of the brakes. You know, so somebody is where to go and roll it. But i said more that could be by the fish. Because when very to the right now, the 5 for got loan to pass. Those are the rates are, those are pool. You g 20. So the idea is large. For the level of africa. The idea is to you patricia and of the south research. And that does continue to dominate the relationship between africa and the this is security over what russia and china might have to offer africa would also explain why, right after russian for administer sergey laughter of, toward africa last year, july, didnt had to interrupt his nap schedule, and go all the way over to egypt for the cop 27 summit, while secretary of state anthony blinking blips, the continent on visits to south africa, congo, and rwanda. Now, perhaps you will find a way to somehow build new and better ties with africa. But their best shot comes from being totally honest and authentic about what they really want, rather than like, decrease the bar who pretends that he has absolutely no agenda. Archie contributor rachel marston. So just to reiterate, thoughts and use emerging from the for them today at the African Union has been invited to join the g 20 group. Well, in that regard, we got some reaction at from a c, g, 10 anchor on what to chinas role is in that and their interest to. And heres at least 2 young a. D, 20 a. Supposed to be a platform, more mechanism for global problem solving. So at this summit, the countries are expected to come in a constructive way on Multi LateralDevelopment Climate banking reform, debt relief technology is set aside the deal political questions and really focused on problem solving and delivering for the world that should be the angle. And thats the hope of it and trying to welcome some more countries from the global south 20 in the block. Youre right. Everybody is talking about the global south these days. China has declared as a wavering support for the inclusion of African Union in the g 20. It is the 1st country to explicitly support this significant endeavor because paging, genuinely believes the potential inclusion of the a. You could foster a more inclusive and Equitable International community. And Global Governance system as well, and believes the importance of having Diverse Voices and perspectives in addressing pressing global challenges. So this is one of the things that china would be watching. It would love to see happening. Well, there you have at the African Union is set to join and that means 55 african nations will have their say at through that the there is only currently one nation g 20 from i forget. So its, i forget all those other nations will now have their say on, you know, the issues surrounding that are great because they want to talk about a lot of issues. Just looking through some of this at neo colonialism. Keeps being talked about, their resorts is being taken without, at largely invitation. And, you know, if you want to grow your economy, you need the resorts is that you have on your lawn. So how does that . How does that going to play out in the g 20 . What kind of voices are going to this send to that . Whos going to agree with it throughout the weekend will be here. And analyses will be going through that story at with a lot of guess or, but for now, from here from new delhi on us. So 3, saturday, the temperatures are going off by the way. You might be able to see some of the birds behind me at the flying quite low. I was told that if that is the case, rain is coming. I tell you off. Theres a lot of people praying for that because it is a hot day in new daily. Lots going on. Were going to stay right here at the right the day, but a spot to rory, sushi on the R T International team in moscow. Bye for now. The yeah unit, thank you very much for that. Enjoying your coverage there from the g. 20 live in new delhi. Now just before we go any further in the program, a quick update on this uh, devastating uh its quick that happened uh, friday night and saturday morning and morocco. We understand the latest updates now possibly numbers in the neighborhood of 600 potential Victims Office of quick in morocco. Those details are often in coming for the meantime, though, this news just in the south african president has confirmed the death of problem. One of the pod hide here relate to mine, goes to was to put that last the age, 95, where the defensive zulu royalty was a strong advocate for his people. The Largest Ethnic Group in south africa, often described as a rise volt, nelson mandela, a boot the last he played a Central World with naturally securing south african freedom and democracy. Yeah, those details continue online right now at all. So youre not confident. Meantime, its great to have your company as were towing in just a few minutes, but also not long before well go back to june in new delhi for both coverage. And this is every good treatment to try to call the 1950 to us as the was returning to peaceful life. But the newspapers didnt report ongoing massacres and the ukrainian saw, according to intelligence ukrainian nationalist and the ukranian in search of ami said by romano. Shell give each the joy to these atrocities. For future was the best old that that was going. What . But i senior yourself, the new way to be way to be like this is of course well do a new one. Obviously the plaintiff was the head of the n, k, v d, sabotage departments of the time. He was tasked with stopping the atrocities in ukraine for good reason, general sort of blonde. It was very familiar with the situation. He had experienced fighting the nationalist before the war. Named lovelyn to con, get a z, a do it to made. So didnt know, could i e, but it was, well thats funny. So give me the task was tremendously difficult, but suit up a lot that was determined to complete as we have personal accounts, the central with the ukranian nationalist. Right, so the last and the plane or the rest of these until it was a boot phenomenon. What we should do east, east or west northville south. We must, per phone, lose solidarity and global corporation. Youre starting to the guy in the world has never seen. So hes dressed and also one time really wants the known in vietnam, american war, the vietnam war. Last, its almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. Not any time we have now, and then you dont see it now. Why . Its all on the empty hundreds of thousands of american troops who was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me. And the american soldiers murdered resistors, most of the slaves burned down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. And lee laid up day by all right. Did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did and on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive . Yeah, yeah, yeah, thats, thats a ways to to the, what is she just said what else . And well see. Whats the story, what people mutual in which a lot of what you see is not the supervisor. The blue. It goes along because you still have a pre, a, to a new one. And then the last one. You really . Yes. Well people for, for lose the vision was one thats always focused. Did it when you uh, lets do a Virtual Assistant for the just a quick thing just to see with jenny. And so the 1st portion of you do is just so thats the way to put them here. Its no, its not what we do. But as it will so you can put the little system with that, its still filled with the clear the account. Right in a 2 step arcs occur on 9. 00. And im with the national garza from the long beautician issue. The list for sale is the the breaking news this hour and all the international, updating the numbers, they basically doubled in morocco, the desk told, following a deadly break is when over 600 full details up and coming in, describing 3 soldiers or a respite imparting a facet wanted charges of coughing against the routing ministry, which was led by the will. The youngest head of state india has proposed the permanent membership for the African Union in g 20. I am confident that we have consensus on this proposal