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E hmm, so we understand that awareness of this is ripening, but how will this affect the continuation of the conflict in ukraine by time, kiev and the United States say they have nothing to do with the attack on the kremlin, but nevertheless, how and when we will respond, in addition, ukraine recruits russian citizens to carry out terrorist acts on our territory. What should be the punishment for these crimes . This is what we will talk about today in detail. Our minister actually meets with representatives of his colleagues from these countries, yes, but what are the states that do not want or do not want to communicate with ukraine there, who is this . India pakistan huh . China i. Why i ask, because the annual plan, for example, of china yes , recently there was a conversation between the leaders of the prc with zelensky that is, the conversation is going on, and who was our minister talking about. What do you think, is it really so now. Naturally, when Sergei Viktorovich says, he relies on specific information and specific facts, but first of all, of course, this is our position, that is, to talk with the government of ukraine, which allows itself. After attacks on the heart of our country. It is impossible to expect other countries to stop and fully communicate with the ukrainian government. Now it may even be premature, because the same chinese. They need to maintain this relationship. What kind of intermediary will be if he cannot communicate with the other side, yes, but first of all, the point is that the sco countries, uh, just like the brix countries perfectly understand the weight of russia and perfectly understand the weight of the socalled ukraine and uh, they understand that russia is a permanent member of the security council, this and Nuclear Arsenals this and deep, history and so on. And there is another main trend that can be seen, both in the sco and in the brix organization, is fatigue from us pressure from hegemony. The us has this fatigue. Yes, it is felt. This is very strong and in addition to fatigue, there is also a certain disdain for the americans, which was not, for example, 10 years ago or 15, and even more so 20. Well, imagine that the leaders of saudi arabia or the emirates did not pick up the phones when they try to get through us President Biden is trying to get through to them. Well it was impossible to imagine such a thing, in my opinion it was not shared. Im talking about this jersey. Do you remember, yes, and im talking about this tshirt, he was standing right here in the studio. I say, listen. But it might not like it, maybe someone likes it, right . Well, i understand that you dont like it, but its a fact. Im just here, actually this transmission. Yes, im just talking about the middle east. That is, it didnt seem to me, it really is. So it really is. So this is true, that is, the period when the americans dictated their ruled the period when they held their umbrella over many countries. This period of danger has passed, and now the umbrella, in some places full of holes for good reason. The same saudi arabia complained that American Patriot systems do not let drones through. Uh, it lets through, on the contrary, the drones that uh were launched from the territory of yemen and there are clearly their Security System there. Even now, many are looking towards russia and , most importantly, towards china, because the position and policy of china is also changing earlier. What the chinese said they said, let the americans keep their security umbrella, and we will in asia, in the arab countries, in particular, deal with the economy, invest and so on. Now the chinese have realized that they cannot ensure the security of their belt and road project without more active involvement in security issues, it is important for them to reconcile arabia and iran with each other, it is important for them that their investments are safe, and they see that the americans are far away there. And they are not so worried about safety, on the contrary, they are trying to make the nearest neighboring countries quarrel with each other , what they are doing in the former soviet union. Well, divide and rule. This is a longstanding principle, but states have emerged that do not just say no , which make specific efforts to do something and offer alternative options, so everyone is now drawn to both the sco and brix. And there are processes in africa , there are still processes , and in south america , everything is also not in favor of the usa but the rafaelniks. Here you. Well, you know about america, and everything they breathe. You also know, i know, he has a huge number of different connections there, right . But tell me, they also understand this correctly. They cant help but understand it all. They understand perfectly, but they are not happy about it. And what can they do so that, well, it doesnt work out, this is chinas story there , i dont know, so as not to lose this very hegemony, about which Elena Vladimirovna and lavrov actually actually met with the tranche. He also talked about this hegemony. Yes, what can they do . Here, for example, there, yes, they can provoke a clash between china and taiwan, or maybe they will climb again there in afghanistan, maybe somewhere else, where the balkans will blow up some in order to actually preserve their positions, perhaps these options or no, the instruments of influence of the modern United States are changing and decreasing. We have talked more than once about the political, economic, ideological , informational, and financial components that made up about 20 years ago. Weigh this whole palette was in their hands. They are like you know, so to speak, e virtuoso pianists. They could manipulate anyone, somewhere they blocked financial flows, somewhere they influenced information by removing unnecessary journalists from the space where it was political pressure up to the change of leaders of these countries, now this toolkit is limited. And what should worry us in this situation is that this toolkit is now reduced, in principle, to three, lets say, fundamental keys. The first is information still controlled by the anglosaxons. That is, accordingly, so to speak, we see perfectly well, this is even in our postsoviet space. How does this affect . I m not talking already there, by the way, i want to pay attention. These processes are taking place now. I mean such aggressive propaganda on the territory of india. India , as an englishspeaking country, is now becoming the center of this information battle. Theres a lot going on right now. I am also following this second financial closely. So far, no one has canceled the dolor. They influence in exactly the same way now in this plan and here and there, removing these two. I want to approach the worst scenario. This is a military group. Still an aviation group, they have not gone away. For now. A fairly powerful army and what you just said in pursuit of that deep regret, we must be prepared for this scenario as well. It will be a military intervention, a military invasion in one form or another with our own hands under a foreign flag, or what if we now see in ukraine with our own hands, so to speak ukrainians. But look whos he made a statement the other day. Remind me. But in detail just exactly on this very topic. He said that we are powerful, which means also economically and militarily , but at the same time, china and russia have the same practical power, but for now we actually surpass them and therefore in a different direction, and therefore we will try not to do this economically. We can already say that the americans simply can not stand it now. Here is what turns out to be, for example, the socalled help ukraine is everywhere at all levels, starting with trump ends up with a potential prize. They say, we cant afford to pay any more for this. Our economy has overheated and it should. I m not talking about europe, therefore, the military is also a very controversial component because. Well, ill give you two examples. This, of course, is our hypersound and a new type of weaponry, which are not even in america in any form yet, and the second is a completely active rapid buildup of the navy, china, which already now, it turns out in terms of quantity, it surpasses the pacific groupings there, yes, but at the same time, as they say, its still dangerously very dangerous. Yes, we are not burying america, i understand, yes, it has not yet reached that point. Fine . Sergei ivanovich, look, it means that lavrov says yes, just the main problem is that the west and, first of all, the states want to preserve their behemonia. Here it is this quote, yes, and so far it is so impossible. And while it is so impossible to solve. Hmm, there will be no conflicts in ukraine anywhere else, that is, it has i mean those conflicts that already exist and maybe those that already exist and even more so. Yes, but tell me here, and the participants of the sco. These are exactly the very countries that are not satisfied. Thats the fact that the Americans Still have this hegemony now, i understand correctly, here it is, here it is, its interesting, yes, three point 297 billion people. Even more. These are a bit outdated. Yep, thats a huge number of people. Yes, yes , they probably didnt take into account, some recruits on the water, maybe they forgot it doesnt matter suits these people, i understand correctly the hegemony of the United States yes, they are not satisfied, they intend to dismantle it. This does not mean a funeral and america remains and dollars remains in a position of hegemony will inevitably go away only a matter of time, unfortunately, tying between trying to accept this reality. Well, if not prevent, then at least visibility. This is the process of loss of global haemonia. As far as the sos is concerned, this sos is evolving from the debating club that it was in its early years. And by the way, in the twentyfirst year, the twentieth anniversary was already sco, yes, the anniversary of e has passed. Now it is a fully integrated structure. Right now. Uh, lavrov went to the meeting. Foreign ministers , yes. But besides these regular and even the council of foreign ministers, they meet regularly, in addition to the heads of the ministry of Foreign Affairs , the head of the ministry of defense regularly meets. There , the heads of the ministry of emergency situations, the heads of Central Banks communicate regularly and coordinate their actions. All this is happening within the framework of shost, dear friends. That is, it is already complete. The intuitional structure is taking shape before our eyes. Eh means e. Which, by the way, is this was a preparatory meeting attended by a. Lavrov. Uh, in early july, i think there will be a summit of heads of state on the third of the fourth. Right there in new delhi. Its all wonderful. I want to know what to understand, look here. This is how we speak well about the sco. Uh, and we know the main countries that are members there, but at the same time, it seems that they are all against american hegemony. Well, this process is wonderful, as it were obvious well, but as soon as the americans throw in some kind of resolution. For some reason they vote. Actually for or in in the best case, someone will abstain, why here i am trying to understand if this is integration, if we are friends, or rather, here they are friends against the United States, i understand correctly that this is so this association is against no. Everything, this is not an association against it is in order to american hegemony. It means that it is against no, it is not against to trade with them inside the growth of a huge commodity turnover. Inside, which is significantly an hour. This is the trade turnover in National Currencies going on. This is what they came together for. They are in order to show kuzkins mother from there from new delhi the same thing, no, well , in order to trade in their currencies, this is necessary. Trade in dollars, im wrong to argue. Its a byproduct of the merger. And not the main goal at all, the main goal is more, of course. By the way, this is the main goal for what we said later, i dont mind. The main goal for those who enter, by the way, has finally formalized the membership of belarus there iran forgive me iran and belarus has accelerated, and now completes the registration of membership in what but what else is important. Uh, listen, uh, the powerful trio of oil gas camels. It is saudi arabia, kuwait and the United Arab Emirates that have formalized membership in the sco at the level. E bail partners. This is the last stage of resettlement. Story. Yes, once again, i still cant understand in any way, or is everyone interested in trading, as you say among yourselves in your currencies, but this means. 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It was clearly a hostile act, it is clear that without the knowledge of the owners of the kiev terrorists could not have committed it, and we will not respond by talking about the incident, was it or not . And we will answer specifically, seeing actions. We will respond with concrete actions. I have a question. Here Sergey Vladimirovich tell me why we harness for so long . This time then and in my opinion, from all countries there were so many judges of pakistan. Yes, this is the attack on the kremlin, i have not heard. Its just that maybe im wrong, but i havent heard from anyone else, and you havent heard any statements from india there, and i havent heard from china, i havent heard any statements condemning specifically yet. Ok then. So when are we going to answer . Well, if you asked, we wont. I briefly answer said the only one who supplies weapons to ukraine. Once again , this is it. How does it all work . He has arms from one side to the other side. This is a phenomenon of pakistani politics. Lets not waste time now. Lets not, yeah, lets talk. Oh, actually speaking about the answer. Yes, you know, here, in fact, it has already been 3 days since the attack. Yes , on the cream, yes, 3 days have already passed. Yes, here and and here, but the question is in the air. Why are we still not responding . And here, uh, our minister it will take one cut in order for the answer to be the answer, of course, there must be, because this is an attack simply, but listen, lets talk like that. Lets have someone waiting. Heres what i think, i immediately wrote. And now it remains to wait until some next blinken declares that it was russia itself that fucked the kremlin in this world of absurdity. This, perhaps, is quite, but in any case, we must now do something about the red or already brown line, jokes are going around the situation. Not at all funny punches on Energy Infrastructure is not suitable, people simply will not understand. Well, look in your your post with all due respect to you. You still say to do something. That is, you also do not have a specific answer. This answer must be given by professionals, yes, who must weigh it all on a pharmacy scale. Uhhuh i think its not easy to prepare. You understand, this is this, this is this, in a street fight you can quickly dunk my fist. And you waved your fist, if were not talking about a street fight. Uh huh, yeah, if were talking about not to succumb to the provocation of a hybrid war. And look at kadyrov , by the way, kadyrovs statement is very interesting. Yes, it was unexpected for me, where he says that he is provoking ours to provoke us to sort of start some kind of massive carpet bombing of cities and so on. Then a media wave began. Thats what were talking about, that is, will we fall for it or not . Im not saying that it needs to be swallowed. It cannot be swallowed. Yes, yes, but often you dont want to repeat this banality that revenge should be a dish that is served cold. Its not revenge, its the answer. But i think it will take some preparation time, so heres whats gone from my point of view. This is not enough. Thats all. It can be slow to answer. Thats right after the crimean bridge, well done there. And so she cream. Its something unprecedented, you know, yes, there was a lot of stuff like that, it wasnt like that. Talk about a street fight, street fight. Sometimes it happens you see the girl home back there is some kind of punks for you something there makes some claims there was a street fight, that is, it was unexpected there. Here we are conducting a special military operation. We know who we are dealing with, we know these people who have already shown us 20 times what they are capable of and what they are ready to do, they talk about it at all levels. Well, i think we probably should have been ready for Something Like that. This is how i argue. Well, well, something is what . Thats what you write . And here i agree with you. Let the professionals decide, because i cant answer the decision is for the supreme commanderinchief or the chief of the general staff or the deputy minister of defense. Well, look, there is another statement, but the Prime Minister of hungary let s see that the skaurban is also an interesting statement. Look here. I dont have the imagination to imagine that someone can defeat a Nuclear Power to think that the russians will sit back and watch as they are defeated, their political system is broken, their president s are assassinated, they stage a drone attack over red square, believe that they will silently watch and put up with military defeat can those who have not grown out of childhood. So in a fairy tale there is no reality. And spiridon pavlovich well, urban has already moved to elementary school. Yes as far as i understood, he left childhood. He went to school all the time, and the rest still get there, yes, that is, they understand perfectly well that this is a Nuclear Power, everything that orban talks about, and yet. They continue regular aid packages absolute support in terms of information and not in terms of information for these people who are attacking the kremlin and what goal do they really want to provoke us into something so thoughtless, what sergey was talking about with his palm, there, i dont know, but a nuclear strike. Yes , you probably meant Something Else. What is their purpose . Lets proceed, if were talking uh uh, the drones are hitting the kremlin from a Military Point of view. It has no value at all from the military. Yes, and as far as the attack of psychological science is concerned, Russian Society is unconditional. These are symbols and, accordingly, the goal is what goal, what i have been asking for many times. I have said many times, listen a. Well, you dont like it there, i dont know. The cabinet of ministers in kiev or the building of the supreme joy, beautiful knowledge is absolutely beautiful. Lets not want to hit the building there, but the Security Services of ukraine, which is not a monument and a completely ugly publication. Well, okay. Well, hit the maidan of independence , this is what brought ukraine to the state in which it is now, this is a symbol. This is a very important story. We dont. Apparently they wanted to do exactly this. They wanted to do more than just that. Here everything is much worse. We are all practically experts who discuss all these Current Events on the ukrainian issue and in general the trends that are taking shape in the world. Everyone comes to the conclusion that the main goal and, by the way, it was originally. Yes, the west still destabilize russia to cause certain. Uh, well, its understandable to bring the economy to its knees to cause, uh, certain social riots. And as a result of the change of political power in the Russian Federation, but i want to continue this logic here. Yes based on this, you need to understand another thing, if this goal is related to the destabilization of russia and the change of the political regime, then this gives us reason to believe that they believe that it is impossible to achieve this goal by military means. Well, whether there is logic in this or not, its impossible, therefore , i dont exclude everything that concerns the other, with regard to the ukraine antirussian war project, and so on. Everything is sharpened for implementation. This idea hmm, that is, to discredit the russian government , the russian army is not able to protect its interests, and so on and so on and so on in order to what in order to cause resentment within Russian Society. They have already understood to bet on the liberals, it makes no sense at all. They wont pull this story out. Now they want to bet on the turbo patriots who should as a result of certain events that will take place. Well, lets put it this way, and act rationally from the point of view of the interests of the same russia. Well, will they be able to implement ideas like this or not . I doubt it very much. Why because i will return to the first part of your dialogue when asked question. And what will they do . To maintain their hegemony, i want to tell you i will not do. They are already doing it, and they are trying to do it, but it must be admitted that not everything works out for them, but they are trying to do it. Yes, the sanctions policy is work, there is work with india. There against china that is, they have the whole, as if everything is all painted. I will say more than that, there is even a schedule. You know, as they say, and so on different countries. Yes, uh, there is in this chart and iran is there in this chart, russia well, as you say, the main pie is, of course, china and by the way, im in regarding china, unlike many, i have no illusions, and i think personally. This is my personal opinion. Uh, i think that china, at least the china that we know today, well, it seems to me that there is absolutely no prospect of becoming a world leader, because why i think so, because china is sure to become the number one economy in the world. But this is not enough for leadership. And so far, china has not demonstrated its other capabilities in terms of defending its interests, including by military means, a very popular point of view. We do not yet know, that is, we see chinas large army. All clear. There are rockets. But when you are big, you know, like in life, there is a very big person. He is very passionate. Yes, but if a fight has already begun, and he turned out to be this terrible person, there will be enough spirit or not enough. Yes, not in spirit, say yes, then the situation will already be completely different. Well, yes, in relation to e ukraine and dronov , i am. I want to look for another one. For some reason, we are discussing only the attack on the kremlin. And i will say during these three days, otherwise from drones was in the kursk belorussian e, Rostov Region and so on, what does this say . Explosions in the bryansk region of the canvas in the leningrad region, what does this mean . This is still preparing for a counteroffensive. This is absolutely in terms of contrast preparation. This is absolutely logical. Its just that all this is also needed in a certain way. Uh, of course, uh, react. What will be the answer. I think thats any any answer. From this point of view. Well, as it were, it seems to me, he will put in an even worse position. Heres what regarding the political response to the attack on the kremlin. I believe it is already given here in mine. Again, this is my personal opinion. In what it is expressed in the fact that one of the goals, and one of the goals this is an attack by drones on creams, was still enu, like any terrorist act, to cause fear. Yes, the population has some kind of it, and accordingly, i think it was connected with the future victory parade, that is , the idea was what if they attack the kremlin, then during the parade everything that people should not go there could explode, conditionally on the apparatus there or u to fully celebrate , there is victory day and so on, but as far as i understand, its time to make a decision on the apparatus and uh, there will also be an immortal regiment, but uh, there will be car races and so on. That is , if our reaction was such that there is an attack by drones, and someone like this, sometimes calls us here, some. Yes, you need to respond somehow. Would come out to say. In terms of public safety. Were canceling the victory parade. But that would be just a political disaster. You know, its just for me. I i think it would be a political catastrophe, but it will be in the army and, accordingly, final. Goals, probably, they partially achieved some goal. Well, of course, goals after all. I think they have not achieved to bomb, kiev or not to bomb, kiev, you know, this is a decision of the militarypolitical leadership from the point of view of military expediency. Well, i , for one, think that at the moment i see no reason to bomb, just take kiev and just uh, well, as they say . Everyone says lets bomb it. There is a center, kyiv will be smashed. Well, come on, you were in kyiv, you verbal and politically, you were understood, you were not understood , and i lived there, yes, what is the value . For example, ill tell you which one we climbed on the maidan in what . No, im not in anything , im just roman, im inclined to think that if we start to beat, uh, bomb, kiev, the west will just sit and applaud like that. In general, i want to say even more here our goals may coincide. I will tell you even more, the more ukrainians die in this war, the better for the west we know, the better for the west every ukrainian family, in their understanding should to bury at least one Family Member so that we, not the people of ukraine and the people of russia, hate each other forever. Ugh forever. Thats how it happens. Still doesnt work. It doesnt happen that way. Well, you will agree after a while, after a while we communicate. By the germans themselves, but from the point of view of the interests of the west, the more ukrainians die, the better if tomorrow russia, er, simply wipes kiev off the face of the earth, and 3. 5 Million People die there, but they will just sit and clap their hands. I dont know, im not in the military. Im not a military expert im not a no general staff. 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We dont know yet what it happened. We do not provide any ratings. I saw the comments in the morning. Dmitry peskov the assertion that we are somehow involved in this, so that washington is involved. I can assure you that there was no involvement of the United States, whatever it was, the United States was not involved in this, that is, no no, by no means is it us. And in the end it turned out, as i wrote here. Actually in the telegram channel at home, which is already practical. We ourselves did everything with a staged action and so on. Why are they refusing . They are afraid of something or for some reason . Then roman, well, uh, in general, uh, previous similar events in the territory, uh , of our country and indeed. For some reason , now everyone is talking only about the kremlin. But there are other such events in the country. Eh, i think in no less significant places for the country, quite a lot of e happened after a certain number of years. I hope that it will be clear what really happened , what really happened, what really happened while the hostilities are going on. Nobody says a wont. Even someone knows, i think that most people who now confidently comment on everything do not know and cannot have such information , it would be, to put it mildly, strange if such information, uh, such information would be available, including information war from all sides. We dont know much at all, we dont really know whats going on. We dont know how many people actually died. How much earlier. How many are captured on both sides. How many in captivity and in my opinion, it has no absolutely continuation is now in perspective. You yourself said in the last block that yes, someday, uh, there will be normal relations. Really. I remember that ah. Well, its amazing to germany to the germans, uh, there was one of the best relations, despite what happened in our country. Uh, fortyone. Uh, fortyfive. So maybe, no need to wait to pass. These are the loss of life, i drive a lot on the side regularly. I see these new graves, maybe already move on to the finale, which will inevitably be, about which everyone is talking. Well, while i see this ending. For some reason, for some reason, and for some reason, supporters of zelensky putins chronicle on both sides, he plays the same chorus absolutely and they are happy with each other, because if it were not for these people who play. Here are those who want peace, they call to surrender. Its absolutely. This is absolutely mirror situation. We can not. Let us give each other. Thats what other people have to do with it, no one goes there by himself from those who call. Eh, thats basically it. This is really such a sofa internet. Uh, couch internet on the army, so i believe that the only option is to conclude a ceasefire agreement. Uhhuh here at the negotiating table to investigate war crimes. There are definitely war crimes. There is someone investigating them. Now, as long as it goes, there must be consciousness, an international group, which will be which will receive. Uh, the confidence of both russia and ukraine of third countries neutral not participating with support. There are definitely such countries, even though china please mayatnikova, im trying. Or rather, i remember that i remember there was such an idea to lead peacekeeping units to the donbass. You remember, yes, and no one even wanted to discuss it. Why because uh, russia says . Yes, please , or, in my opinion, lukashenka said. Lets get our units over there. Uh, kazakhstan has some kind of its own there, ukraine wanted ukraine and lets go, we will launch the british americans there for this, in fact we cant go , because as a model, when is it us, when can it happen, when in our society, including in our studio, there will be a real need for this, because i remember this has been going on for many years. Yes, how many times have i said that a peacekeeping contingent should be brought in so that people do not die, so the civilian population should have said this, but that someone supported no, since it is impossible to keep it. This message must be political. All of them or should he deal with this, our ministry of Foreign Affairs please, this topic was discussed, lets say, on the same sco. Here, look. Look, they didnt try to implement the idea in the minsk agreements, yes , there is a big war for 8 years of a peaceful way out of this situation, look honestly, it prohibits. I remember this day very well, here is an endlessly long broadcast of more than four hours in the studio now with the advanced pavlovich and we were waiting that now zelensky was meeting with the president , and the Russian Federation, they really would agree on something there. As a result, zelensky korchel, make faces for this very thing, sitting there on the right or to the left there from macrons or from someone i spoil, faces and nothing is difficult for you. Leave me to say that zelensky behaved behaved correctly. You dont make me say it. I wont say it. I so i believe that everyone made a lot of mistakes. Everything can be. Lets understand now that people are paying for these mistakes with human lives on the one hand, and our country is losing money with its future, because everything is now just a second, because, uh, look a lot at the beginning, but about the sco summit, but listen , this indeed, they themselves and all organizations are now working for the greatness of china, not against the United States in that you had a discussion on the greatness of china , for which russia is an excellent raw material for them, an excellent source, they will not consider that russia , they will not consider that russia a great power with our weak economy, and it will constantly shrink as the war continues , and unfortunately, everyone is really interested in this. Maybe we need to get out of this impasse. Yes, its just such a strange story, then. If you do not leave, and i just continue what you are talking about, but if you do not leave, because of this confrontation, your economy will shrink. And if you get out of this story, then your economy nikolai thinks it should take off, but it seems to me that if god forbid russia comes out , it will be perceived solely as a defeat, capitulation, followed by simply annihilating actions against the Russian Federation a. Now back to the quote. Organ. Me difficult. Again if possible its hard to accuse me of sympathy for this leader. Yes, it is impossible to defeat russia on the battlefield. Impossible impossible to continue to live to change russia there to the west. In general. Yes, it is impossible no one side to be defeated, not the other all this. Military stalemate, this is his humanitarian stalemate, because the continued loss of life, but can be bought yes out of the stalemate, as a rule. Theres an idea, an entrance. This is the easiest way to find a way out. That is, until we return in 2014 to the coup detat and those criminals who carried you out and those who sold there until we punish them all. This confrontation is unfinished to do what ukraine practically does. What to do . How do you propose invented. Why are you looking at this question . Yes wait, friends let me ask a question to the representative of greece have you seen the statement that says we have nothing to do with this want before. We had statements there. Actually, other americans, no less highranking, who said that they only provide these systems. And there and so on. Information share. Everything is here. They give ukraine what they need, but he says, no, its not us , but publications, that russia itself did it, why im trying to understand, but if they are all so cool of themselves, if they are not afraid of anything, if they think that russia is nothing will not do either in response or without an answer, that she will simply swallow everything. She is not in a position to be there then why do they smell it so carefully, they are clearly being cautious. Why . Well, they would say, yes, we provided this data. We actually supervised this operation. And what . Here i am i can tell that of all that was shown, the New York Times flag. They wrote there, but russia did not give any evidence to whom to give evidence. It was somehow the ukrainian side, lets say, that is , in fact, they are here, look, there is no evidence and ukraine yes first of all, they behave like an arbitrator. Come to us. Bring some evidence here and then well see. Here, uh, russian liberal glad. The same thing, he says, lets do it. What international committees are there, these commissions and so on in order for them to somehow unite us, that is, in fact, that the military who fight there , the british, the americans will cross over and they will become somehow blue berets there, or just what is called there. Well, i guess i dont know how. How so i want to say two things to remind everyone. In the spring of the ninetysixth year, maskhadov in the kremlin, this yeltsin receives him and says the war is over, then i look, all eyes are opened, then they say that russia has completely surrendered in chechnya. That is, it was she who surrendered in chechnya. Yeah, many said that its all calm somehow and all. And if it had not been for the ninetysixth year, for yeltsin to win, win by choice, as he won then, and it would not have been the ninetyninth, when they blew up in moscow how many houses are there, bridges on tverskaya and so on and so on. This is a very concrete example, if russia is now. On the basis of some pacific or i dont know yet somehow human questions, but will not bring it to the end. This uh this story, then there will be more blood. It wasnt just more blood there was more blood 15,000 in the donbass, and i told you in this program in brussels, when you talk about the donbass, they say no, we wont have any such region, you know, there were no donbass, and one more question. I see now in greece and yesterday the day before yesterday they called me right away then it was thats why, because it was spectacular . Yeah, you need a president ial residence. There, how many times we have been and the effect, but they can not understand. How it all happened, because these ones had not yet come out right away, then they received a line on how to behave, that russia itself did it and didnt at least. This is what helps russia. What is the question here is that this strike on the kremlin, which, as someone rightly said, is like a mosquito bite from the point of view of somehow strategy, but from the point of view of spectacularity, it is of great importance, therefore russia it seems to me one thing what grinds there is love. 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And everything that the kremlin says, i have divided into two difficult to comment or argue about it, without knowing the reality of the facts, we leave it up to ukraine to decide how it is going to defend itself and how it is going to try to take back the territory. Well, how to understand this person . Sergey boevich is lying, how is he breathing . Yes, they are cautious, because they are waiting for the continuation. They believe that there should be a continuation. On which side should it be from the russian side, so they are cautious about which then, or rather, about some kind of continuation then, they, in principle, think, which means, firstly, what we are faced with. This is obviously a well calculated and carefully prepared provocation. What was calculated provocation. Yeah, what was the expected reaction expected a paroxysm of reckless anger hmm that is, well, flared up, and i understand that it was anger that hit the ancient sacred city like that. Ah, the hearth of our common civilization. This means that this did not happen, and thank god , look, this is the man Andrey Yermak , who you know him. Yes, and look at the beginning i published this little thing, like rockets fly by accident. Then then there was the next little light, when all this, yes, flew in there. Look here, yes, little lights, and then he took the whole thing and demolished it. Here it is a provocation. So, now im just getting to this. Ah, so look whats next. What a continuation, uh, then you need to show that there were affected. Whose iron . Whose control was and what and whats in the software . We have not yet seen this, but only one exploded. By the way, the drone, the second one, just fell, which means that we need to find out. Whose are they yes and the second story important second question did not pass to the second story. Yes, what will it change . That is, you in do you really think that we should prove something to someone there, or something, they say to know, wait to know, we are listening. Well, imagine, we ll show you tomorrow, lets say these bespilocheks, well show what blin says is important, what he says to his people will show. We connect on the gas to our people show. It doesnt matter what he says, i dont say goodbye. This chinese block has software, you dont need it, dont get involved, which means the second question. Where was the launch from . Where was the launch from . Yes, if the launch was from the territory of ukraine, then there was satellite tracking. So the states knew that kirbys answer means america knew if the launch, as many experts say, was from the Moscow Region e. Here are possible options. Uh, maybe they knew, maybe they didnt know, but the most important thing is what needs to be done, dear ones. Friends, what to do . What should be the answer . I agree there is no bombing of ancient kiev yes the answer should be obvious and slow, firstly. It is necessary to at least report , maybe without details, what is the fault . New e established and punished this episode so not punished let the guilty guilty into this very helsinki and very many, for example, stopped that he should not. Return to ukraine i am a man, so at least tell me that the perpetrators have been identified and punished, this is the first, and the second, dear friends everything must be done to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. Well , finally make a dome, at least one sacred place in moscow is needed, so that no drone could overcome it. This would be the best answer. Yes, can you imagine, yes, the kursk region arrived, the governor of the kursk region, belgorod, flew in. So you call for this, say, lets do it. Well , what do i need . Yes . Yes, it is enough, yes, that is, to take it publicly. I didnt say left everything is now a problem. No, i havent said enough. I didnt say the problems were solved. I said that this is the first reaction, which is absolutely necessary; the first one does not need to be stoked; i cant fire it. Yes, lets bring zelensky here, by the way, this happened literally right away. Just look at the attacks on the odessa region , nikolaevzaporozhye, the part that they have under control, kiev, the amount, chernigov chernigov yes, well, well, of course. This is what we are starting to get used to. And when we talk about the answer, we mean Something Else. Well, look Andrey Nikolaevich here Sergey Borisovich says give proof that made by the americans. Well, show me this same drone there, the second one fell at all, and it is probably whole there, well, at least in better condition than the one that actually exploded. Yes software, show it exactly. The same agenda that they write about, that you do not provide a document. Well, if not, provide proof to him to prove. Lets just show our people that we healed it. The people have doubts. Who did it sergei well, cool. There is a desire to give important details of this event and a desire such. Here i have a person there. Yes, but what do the special services do to you after that . I dont know if its a mystery or not a mystery. I know that i personally have absolutely no need to show the remnants of this. And i dont need, im not interested. When i see the post of the head of the office of the president of ukraine, when i see that it flies, in fact, to the kremlin, i know who did it. I know who did it or not. To me its infinity. Let them talk about some groupings on some. I know, i am also funny ukraine participated in this, but i want to know, uh, they launched from there with the help of the americans. Yes, from here, maybe they didnt know. I want to know from here can pull it. This is another other. Story. Where did you launch it . Here, too, i want to eat, probably, well, i think were just in the future. Interested in, well, why are you talking at the same time as me . Please explain to me, im sorry. We are all interested in this, so that there is an understanding of where these drones flew from , no one argues with this in order to prevent this from happening, next time similar stories. This is understandable, but i should show some software there, or the remains of this drone and speak. Well, now we know for sure that ukraine is absolutely not needed. I know that Andrey Nikolaevich is the one who knows when. Why do they deny it themselves . Why . Explain by the way, by the way, i actually think it is completely different, because if you dont come, lord, there on this drone, there really is direct evidence that it was involved, the United States is actually doing the situation very difficult to explain why everyone here somehow talked a lot about the sacred significance of the kremlin, and i strongly advised reading the Nuclear Doctrine of the Russian Federation, which considers the attack on the premises of state bodies where decisions are made, and the kremlin is a residence as a precedent for the use of Nuclear Weapons president of the Russian Federation and any attack on him is military and there is no need to talk about more drone no less. You will agree to the point that a direct attempt on the president of russia is also impossible be considered as a precedent, because well, you never know, we have not only the president , our other officials can, in fact, also happen here, be considered as bellis incident for what i mean and naturally, the United States of america does not in life he does not admit his involvement, because in fact this is a direct attack on a Nuclear Power. Well, Andrei Nikolaevich well, then, heres the next question an attack on the hungarian airfield. This is our Strategic Air force. This is also included in our country, you know . However, we did nothing in response that we could have done, guided by our doctrine, the problem is in a second. Well, thats even good. Once again, let it not be americans. Well , ukraine is also going to vk zelenskys statement. Give it to me. We dont attack we are not attacking putin or moscow, we are fighting at home on our territory, we are defending our cities and villages. We dont have enough weapons. Even for this, so we dont use it anywhere. For us, this is defense. We cant waste it we didnt attack. Lets leave putins tribunal. They also refuse. So this is not news. And what they officially recognized here was, by the way, a very wonderful conversation about the need for an International Investigation into what is mine. In general, we want the truth , you know, 9 years have passed since the house of trade unions in odessa. Yes, the west could resolve the issue with this investigation. So he did nothing for 9 years. Although there, excuse me, the participants in this crime, then excuse me, they walked around odessa barbecues in front of people in front of really children, relatives of the dead their name there by family name is known. Someone tried to investigate it. The west is somehow interested. West excuse me openly believed in the air conditioner lugansk he did not care, or do you think that the west does not know the children in the donbass all these years killed. I can bring a fresh example in the crimes with the murders of russian prisoners of war. Excuse me, the faces of the illuminated ukrainian gentlemen who participated in the crime were officially revealed. They are known by name at least one foreign structure has done something to put pressure on to arrest them. I can also remember the story with oles buzina, where just two murderers made a sociopolitical career in ukraine. What kind of investigation . Who will carry it out is the policy of terrorists, which maintains the smell and when this conversation begins. You understand, understand a simple thing, 150 billion was downloaded into the war of ukraine into weapons 150 billion is the cost of the International Space station for all the bots of its operation of existence, if 150 billion were downloaded Peaceful Development of ukraine was a question closed by itself instantly in the annexation of the same donbass because they would get rich , but it was not necessary, just as the whole of ukraine is not needed. Therefore, the story is about the fact that we will go tomorrow and agree on something. There is no need for this on this side. They make. On the contrary, she begins to talk. Well , we are good people. Yes, we are good people. Well, you see, here the question arises, when people speak they demand an answer. They demand an answer, not because they are bloodthirsty or do not want the death of hundreds of thousands more. Ukrainians, because there is an understanding that there are some things that cannot be done by definition, because more and more more follows, when you let down, engels then Something Else happens, you understand, there are no answers, there really was said. Thats worth it. This is erysipelas. You see, this is a mug, it is no different from barefoot him in absolutely nothing, because there is also much more blood on him, both civilians and our military personnel, but a conversation begins that he is a person untouchable with some kind of joy. Well, yes, we adequately believe that he is the leader of the nations. Etc. And so on. But then it turns out that there are no answers at all, and they do not recognize this. Theyre trying to kill our president. Naturally. This will not be officially recognized. Yes, even if god forbid something happens, they will still pretend that they did not do it. 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Something. We look forward to seeing more. I want to tell you a red pencil, it has long been erased. Here we are now trying to draw these lines with blood. You see, no one no longer rolled. Uh, i want to say that in regards. Eh, this particular case is the business of the militarypolitical leadership. I do not presume to take advice, what exactly needs to be done . I understand as a human being, what kind of reaction would you like to see, for example . Lets assume here. If today they hit the kremlin conditionally, yes, then tomorrow they would like to hit the banks, but i think zelensky would have left the country for that. Yes, you understand, yes, its not a coincidence that you have exactly now and in heh, because the most a simple answer that could be and that would satisfy society. Yes, regardless of the consequences, the bank will be destroyed or not. But if, lets say, i flew in for creams, then tomorrow ill fly in, something there, relatively speaking, in banking. Well, here it is all thought out. Everything is logical here, that is, the president will be fired. What is the point of hitting the bank, it will no longer be read as an answer, because zelensky is not in the country. Just whats the point of bombing her. Do you understand . Therefore it is i believe that the americans to this wash the most immediate relation. In general, i think that everything that is planned is from a Military Point of view. These are exclusively americans and british. Moreover, when i see zelensky, i already know him quite well by his facial expressions, by his movements, so to speak, and so on. I generally get it. Sometimes the impression that a route of its movement. He recognizes the same media as you and i. You see, here i am. He takes pictures, where is he going, who is he . For what . Did he come there . How many days will he be on a business trip, that is, you see, this is approximately how all this is and when we say everything about the involvement of the americans in these events for years. Listen, they have entered there so systematically and deeply that they are already annoyed when the ukrainians themselves try to interfere in their internal affairs. You see, they control this process, and they control it, based again on their National Political interests, but these terrorist acts. Here you see hmm means, and the trains of the power lines of the parcels, which are through various services there. There are deliveries, there they send, they send, and so on. Its all americans too. I believe that i do not know, maybe the americans, maybe the british in terms of. No one who sells is not the british, of course. Yes, everything that is planned, of course, in this regard. I want to say, in general, the british are not injured. There are simply no equals, because they are. In this matter, yes, i want to tell you a very simple thing about these russian acts. We have entered the turbulence zone. This is a zone of turbulence, exactly before the president ial elections in the Russian Federation, at least what is there we dont know what will happen next, but for now, during this period, they will use all the available tools, all sleeping cells , all kinds of methods to destabilize russia from the inside. I already spoke about it. This is the only way to achieve their Political Goals to undermine and overthrow the regime. In russia, they are betting on this war this is ukraine, they cannot understand it, that allows them to implement this strategy, but they also have a huge toolkit that they will not try to use during this period of time. Listen you know, i really cant. Heres what i cant understand. They think that putin is to blame for everything, right . Listen, they are lucky that putin is still so kind. And how are you, as you said, a man who does not hit backhand there. Yes, there is impulse. He must think something over and accept something there, because if you simply focus on the people , the people are much more aggressive and decisive today than the president of russia, and they believe that if putin is removed immediately, the issue will be closed, yes, yes, they are so consider. They think so. On the one hand, they are amazing. They are lucky that putin is very kind, but on the other hand , they are not very lucky that putin is also smart, because well, lets be frank about what is happening now. Its not just with attacks and drones and other things with other news coming. Today it started a counteroffensive, the same counteroffensive. True, it began in the information space. Well , its really different on the battlefield. Break down and break from the inside they once succeeded in the ninetyfirst year. And you remember well. I remember what orban said. Do you really think he said . He, that the russians will sit here, yes, and watch how they are defeated, their political system is broken , their president is being killed , Something Else is being arranged there. Yes, men will simply be children. They believed that this should cause the following reaction, like my comrade Sergei Stankevich , for example. Today he announced it. Lets deal with those homosexuals. I apologize for allowing this launch. Uh, these drones in moscow, what to deal with kiev, what is dealt with with the states . Lets find it here in moscow. So lets figure out the culprits, that all these technologies , so to speak, starting from this technology. Yes , they are, of course, Sergei Borisovich knows correctly. Its exactly the same here. This is what ill start from afar, starting with tom the dog, who suggested our exporters, and send them to invite, but without the egyptian flag. These are technologies aimed at splitting society. Its definitely a Technology Oriented that other developments. Sergey dont interrupt me, please, please, i didnt interrupt you. And this is a technology aimed at splitting society, they work and they have to wait for a repetition , and the sublimation and turbo patriots that spiridon pavlovich said will lead them now, and the sublimation of liberals should disperse everyone, well, its impossible if you understand that you dont you can defeat this country, and outside of its other options. No. Well, look dmitry well, look for and for many, many years we have a huge number of people in our country. I felt great working against countries. Yes, in the interests of anyone, except for the interests of the Russian Federation, they felt great. I suppose the percentage of the majority of people who watched all these processes were perplexed, filled with indignation, but nonetheless. Well, what to do . Yes, respectively, but they observed and continued to live and began to get used to it, that it turns out that it is possible to be here and at the same time engage in subversive work and nothing will happen to you for this and more, or maybe if you get sick they will send you the whole board by order of the minister of health with the best doctors. Do you remember, right . Who am i talking about, right . How are these boilerplate . She works everywhere, and from where im sorry, not the most alien for not for you not for me armenia uh, every third employee. Uh, every third adult person is someones employee. Its the same thing, but good. Well, im just what. Look. And now they are specifically using Daria Trebova to carry out terrorist acts against our citizens in our citizens. Yes, some money was thrown pass, then, here it is in your hands. And heres some money for you. Yes, send some parcel, and then make some money for you, this is for the army, a railway line, power lines. Something can be done with this, that i will now say our society, including ours , about which you just said they have already managed to split, where you dont have to think some of the people with a fifth see how Arkady Babchenko said. He is not a solitary purge. Doesnt matter. There, at the level of the thirtyseventh year or without blood, it happens with necessarily with any regime change in 1520 years. There is nowhere to go under napoleon, under cromwell, uh, did you stick with the outsaduna . Does it matter where it is . Unfortunately, there are, unfortunately, elites, they are. Unfortunately, it is calculated on them and what is happening now is more in the glass. It is no coincidence that i am talking about other todays events. In all the internet , everywhere, this technology is working to split the society and they are very successful and have to use it. Well, yes, we conducted a survey on the ntv website. Lets see what topic. I think you will be interested. Lets ask a question, but formulated it as follows. How to prevent kiev from using russian citizens to carry out terrorist attacks. Here, judging by what we just talked about, it turns out that, well, how it hurts. Well, thats just the operational, the actual work there, and the fsb and everything else, the rest doesnt work out in any other way, because we have a lot of people who are happy. And maybe even free of charge. Actually. Here in this terrorist attack against the Russian Federation, but look what they say our people 65 said that it is necessary to toughen the punishment for terrorism 27 need increased work, special services eight percent. We need to call on people to be vigilant. Well, thats 65 of the punishment should be tougher should be tougher punishment, or vladimir well, what do you think now before the wand, what do you think . Thats what here to do here at all . Well, the demands of a tough hand have been heard for a long time and they sound not only about terrorism. We have a lot of problems that you mentioned about the National Elites that turned out to be not national, but comprador in some parts of the world people. They say, we are the people of the world. Well, yes, very much so. Lets frankly have citizens have complaints about the situation in healthcare , education and the economy, and in housing construction, that is, it is necessary to tighten everywhere in order to stop stealing or at least become less. Yes, and these problems also require a hard hand. And that it can be softly somehow solved . It is impossible to solve it softly, yes, but about tougher punishment for terrorism. Now, uh, ours has adopted new amendments. And its already there. It already has a russian passport in hand and they took you there, i dont know on any terror or prepared. Theres something in there. It must be an aggravating factor. I think so, of course, naturally, but you also need to work. Especially with young people. Yes, so that they dont go for this. Well, someone is brainwashing them. Yes, it is impossible to imagine a mirror situation. Well, imagine, lets say that somewhere. Well, where on the embankment or on deribasovskaya a in odessa there is a flock, lets say young guys and the question of the correspondent. They would say that and we are for russia, it is possible to imagine this today. Yes, its impossible now. Why it is impossible to be and it is possible, but it will not be for long. Yes , people are being caught in zaporizhzhia, because they are engaged in adjustments. And they actually take out artillery fire and say you are engaged in the withdrawal. Eh, get out of here. You are not good. Thats how it is, maybe, isnt it time to change something. In this situation, you seemed to be an acetological question before where i am i am there everywhere, everywhere, yes, everywhere everywhere and punishment is needed to strengthen the work of special services and to call on people. It should be a set of measures aimed at preventing this kind of terrorist attacks against terrorist attacks, it is very difficult to fight; there is no one tool that you can apply here, and it will give an effect more than this needs to be dealt with. Both within their own country, and potentially those countries that one way or another may pose a threat or interest in the implementation of terrorist attacks. There, on the territory of the Russian Federation in these countries , special services should also work, which should prevent this kind. This is a very difficult job. This does not mean that all terrorist acts will be prevented. By the way, were talking about it. How many drones flew in, they struck there at some object. And how many did not fly . And how many of them did not fly. And how many terrorist attacks were carried out . We talked about dugin, there and many others. Do you understand how many terrorist attacks were prevented . We are just this. Well, lets just say we are not interested, because we are interested, we draw more usually understand. You yourself are glad, realized all the Staff Members of ukrainian intelligence. But how many of them prevented their leaders there. Crimea should have now taken them showed, what we just talk about to society well , society focuses on a successful terrorist attack, because it causes interest. Yes, but what is being shown on tv today by the special services of the Russian Federation was prevented by a terrorist attack. Uh, in suchandsuch a region or in suchandsuch a region. Well, yes, well, everyone understands that the special services are working. Well, yes, or reports. There all the time they talk about some crazy numbers of terrorists. All this is just like a statistician. Here is my question. Here, tell me, please. Lets suppose, lets say, something would happen there, well, Something Like that in america. Yes, some house flew there, there , the dome of the white house, Something Like that. But what would the americans do . Well, let s now think about all these scenarios, then you will tell us in just a few minutes, when we return to the studio and continue the conversation with our guests. Mask special edition for valerias anniversary on sunday at 20 20 on ntv that same feeling when i just received the money that was needed right now tinkoff cash credit on the card immediately deferment of the first payment up to 90 days. Apply for a cash loan and get money right now tinkoff he is such a one price delicious and the point of pain in the legs of varicose veins is important to treat from the inside, we present a novelty. cashback 3 bonuses to take care of yourself in sberbank online favorable conditions when you want to be with slices of roses, fa sauce relay shio sauce with smoke, even lightning is not terrible. Is she ready . 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Here is the situation, lets say there is a conflict there in the region of north america and a drone arrives. Mexico says no, its not us, although russia is behind mexico and the americans know that we are helping mexico. We are behind mexico there, we supply Orbital Systems with intelligence. In general , everything we can give to the mexicans. And now Something Like this is happening to them, for example, in the area of ​​the white house, what would their reaction be . How do you think . It is possible to simply make such a historical chronology, but let me give you a few examples to give a short answer this, of course, will be spaced apart. Everything to smithereens in half for literally several days immediately. Look at the attack on bee bread, it seems that the military operation against the military base served as the answer to hiroshima nagasaki. This is quite specifically associated with this, and, among other things, there was also an absolutely monstrous bombardment. Tokyo , where also more than 100,000 people died, then the currents were simply burned all over with phosphorus bombs. So to speak, an american. It was the answer. Thats it for this, and in addition to everything else, for sinking the lincol, which at that moment was the emperor did not i remember he was there, he was there barely sleeping. So that was it. Lets take examples. E such small is already so partially forgotten. This is a grenade when the americans. It seemed that something seemed to be happening there, not what they needed, it seemed to them that the spanish builders were building an airfield that would pose a danger to the United States of america. It seemed to them, is that, it also seemed to them in iraq. We also know with you. And what they did with hussein with the rest of this , if we take the second world war, again we remember very well, what was the answer of the anglosaxons from the united england of america , the bombing of london and the country wiped dresden from the forest of the earth, just simply wiped it off the face of the earth. Here is the answer. The fact is that the mentality, as far as i can judge, as far as i can judge it is yes, it is obvious that they should be listed for this. Yes , it should be, of course, the british, for example. The bombing does not need to be watched, they are ashamed, and they we are ashamed to say to the people who passed after they struck, in fact, the strikes on hiroshima and nagasaki, they never made a single generation of rules and promised to do it there, he did not, absolutely all the negative examples, just shameful or you know, here is dresden, which is now remembered. Dresden, literally a few years after the war ended in the dresden gallery, we returned all the most valuable, and the exhibits that were taken out by us. We returned it all there, and therefore there now come, and there you can see others. Yes, good art. And you know what they did, ill tell you. The textbooks say that there was a bombing. What the bombing means was carried out by the british with napalm burned there a frantic number of civilians, but you know, separated by a comma, that they have a textbook written there, which made stalin hmm wonderful. You are attracted by the blue all impossible examples who are impossible to repeat. And even more so to tell as an example. I hope we didnt tell. As an example of the fact that no one apologized and no one thinks. Believe me, i live in america, no one has ever been embarrassed to say that regulation is to some extent harmful. America, they are proud of it, it has always been like this and i am somewhat surprised that our dear colleagues are more ashamed of this than those people who carried it out. This is what is a little unclear to me. Why do you think why do you this imitation we need this life and this is the most. The main thing is that the americans do it. Here it is to us it was when i said, yes, because there is no need to rush. No need. There is a lot to think about there. Yes, im trying to understand, simply and already called. What kind of reaction why is this happening . Why are they not ashamed . Now we are approaching this main thing. Why do they think its okay, because it shows the lack of political will for anglosaxon. This is the worst thing, they are ready to pour blood on absolutely everyone, and all this can even be done. Look in the translation where lets say england is the middle of the 19th century, when the sepoy uprising was, when the english the press told us so to speak, look kills our women kills our people. Why dont you do anything, what was the answer to the guns tied fired, you understand quite right those who are not aware of what is happening here we come to the most important lack of political will. This is the worst sin for any politician. The United States and i want to say that this is not unreasonable, because what is now what they are taking us for now. Thats how weak they show us and unfortunately, its quite effective it turns out. Here, my colleagues said that this was a very spectacular step to show us that our political will is really not in order. We dont need to demolish cities, we dont need to kill civilians, but the political will in resolving these issues. It should be specific, please, just a crime against humanity. You know, learn how not to do it. We could be presented to the public to do an interrogation to ask how he carried you out on september 11, 2001. For some reason, just a couple of days ago in may. You understand nothing. In absolutely about what the americans did, so i said what the americans did already in advance, people know that we will not do this. It is understandable that it will be asked differently what we should do to you. Roman just said that this is decided by the militarypolitical leadership. These are technical issues that need to be dealt with. Dont try to lead the conversation now, oh, youre not suggesting anything. Yes, i do not offer, because i am responsible for my words, and i am a political scientist, not a military specialist, but the answer should be thats about it. We are now saying we cant take it anymore. Now its the same and further. Everything will go later. Crimean bridge, bombardment passed. Bryansk Kursk Belgorod passed daria dugina passed. Oleg buzina. Now he says that olesya also passed the elderberry. Here we should not have this political will to protect the interests of our country. If we are here, i will tell you once again how, but we will not say, now is a second. We wont say anything, but you know. In fact, uh rafael uh, you said about the same as what i said in the beginning, but you know, im remembering my childhood, when i was a pioneer, yes, i wore a tie and watched the international panorama. And now i remember from my soviet pioneer childhood. As they explained, that the worst thing that could be was the bombing of keroshima and nagasaki. Yes, and now, thank god , they clarified this a little at the end, but at first, when i listened to you, it felt like they did it. So lets, well do it, yes the question was what did the americans do . Hello now. I want more briefly anyway. I dont know for some reason they hushed Sergey Borisovich yes here when he asked for details. You know, and the only way to fight propaganda with an approximation is with these here are some, uh, and turnaround phrases, is to be specific and substantive. I was a little surprised you are a professional one of the best journalists. You say youre not interested. Why dont you wonder why . Dont you want to arm yourself with these facts . Im in for listen, listen it did, but thats not the point. You asked for a transfer questions. Why didnt the sco countries react . And because they have no facts , they are sitting, for 3 days 3 days they call me, the indians call the pakistanis. These countriesshots are talking. And what is it . I say ukraine and there is to prove what i say. Well, well, lets go. No, well, after all, the facts, and sergey , at least just chile, offers. To live with it is more powerful to say good good. Yes, i understand and they lie. Here we have the facts, but we do not have this. And you say we dont need it. We are not interested. Ill explain again, yeah even if we showed something, therefore it will change a lot, nothing is needed, nothing will change anything, not biased. No. Believe me Sergey Ivanovich is not a biased country. As you say, they perfectly understand who did it, they do not need any proof , just as they perfectly understand who blew up our northern streams, just as they know that any work who will steal your wallet now. And check, in fact, there is a war to meet. No, thats the love that your wallet will steal from you if you dont catch it. Hand. He will never in his life say what he did, never a single killer , nothing at once to you, this very rarely happens. Very rarely. When you say right away. Yes, its me, yes. Thats it , yes. Thats what happened, right . But if, here, if, but they really would have managed to do something, i dont know about these drones in the kremlin, well, something significant like that. Do you know how they would roar and yell at every corner, what did they do . What is it, how is it possible . Yes , or how they say it, that its simple furious. There, the operation is crazy excellent, exactly the same as they actually screamed and rejoiced when it happened, and the story on the crimean bridge. And in the same way they issued the stamp immediately, because they did it and i assure you. They will issue a stamp here already. Come on, come on, here you are, therefore the best weapon is any sco country, not the sco, yes, even the americans and the british and the germans and the Czech Republic know everything very well, everyone knows who did it. Where are the cars from . Where are you from often as shown . Eat one very important question the question is, if russia gives up the weakness, it will simply destroy it, since big russia has been trying to destroy it since the ninetyfirst year since the ninetysecond year and look they gave 200 Million Dollars in order to destroy the soviet mir station they gave money and agreed to mutually somehow resolve the issue of chemical weapons. Russia destroyed