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Norkin. My colleague is ivan trushkin. We are working live and we have a proposal to start immediately with operational information that was circulated this morning by the federal security service, and our countrys fsb itself reported on the detention of terrorists who represent the Main Intelligence Directorate of ukraine in their plans. Included an attempt on the leaders of the republic crimea, as well as the organization of terrorist attacks on infrastructure facilities on the peninsula , means that the fsb reports among those who, from whom these tairovists planned to start killing, the head of crimea, sergei aksenok, is the speaker of parliament. Vladimir konstantinov also yalta and neither on pavlenko targets for those preparing for iraq, as i said, were infrastructure facilities specifically transport infrastructure. Crimea detained only seven people. These are citizens of ukraine, russia, and there is one bulgarian. He is involved in the delivery of weapons to our the country has been confiscated, you see this, now there are five minds ready for use, electric detonators, radiocontrolled mechanisms, trackers for surveillance, the explosives themselves and the components of explosive devices were britishmade, and the windows in russia they got through turkey and georgia, and they were transported under the guise of electric stoves during interrogation , the detainees said that the order for the terrorist attack came from the office of the president of ukraine. And this man roman moshevets acted as the direct organizer. He has been deputy since the twentieth Year Department head. One of the suspects is a former Police Officer named viktor basement. Here, during interrogation, he said that he acted on his own, based on the fact that he had two sons living in ukraine and he needed to save them from so that they would not serve in the army, this man himself contacted representatives of the Main Intelligence Directorate of ukraine and offered his services, and the recruitment itself took place already in krakow ; uh, to military Intelligence Officers , a close friend of kiril labudanov. I came to poland by agreement. We phoned. He didnt score. The first time back in march he asked me to come. Uh, somewhere abroad , and after my children and grandchildren finished school, we left, uh, with the children in the city of krakow where we met. There we happened another detainee. His name is sergei krivoshein, he followed directly the house of the mayor of yalta, so during interrogation he said that the suspects acted in conditions of maximum such conspiracy and secrecy. They didnt even pass gps trackers to each other for surveillance. They did like one buying posted a resale ad. On avito, i already ordered other advice for myself, that is, mutual meetings were excluded. You place an ad on avito at the price that you bought from you in a couple of days, he says we will buy it, and the next day he called again, he says, buy another one. That is, well, for two years already, i assumed that this is all necessary for surveillance. Well, the head of the crimea, Sergei Aksyonov , said today that it was this detained group of saboteurs that was responsible for e. Explosion on the railway in the bakhchisaray area well, the footage of another incident or on the railway the night before was distributed by the investigation committee, we are talking about the bryansk region, as they told the department , an explosive device went off on the tracks in the area of ​​​​the snezhinskaya railway station, as a result , the locomotive derailed and several freight cars important so that there are no casualties in this incident. And this is already here are the shots from the krasnodar territory. There he eliminates a fire at an oil depot in the village of krasnaya volna. Taz, citing the emergency service, reports that the uav may be the cause of the fire, while official confirmation has not yet been received according to preliminary data of victims and there are no injured, no evacuation is planned. Well, ukrainian social networks are full of them today. Here are some video footage. This hot tank farm in the ukrainian city of kropyvnytskyi is said to have been hit by a russian drone during the night. And this, apparently, was not the only goal. Also, a fire was reported after arriving in konstantinovka , the location was presumably hit Ukrainian Military personnel on wednesday night, kiev reported that several ukrainian regions, including the Capital Region , were subjected to a massive strike at once. Ukrainian authorities report the Successful Operation of air defense. However, data from the field contradicts this, for example, in dnepropetrovsk, a drone hit an administrative building at the same time they were very worried United States representatives now they are demanding that china put pressure on russia to stop the strike what we want to see from china so this is pressure on russia china could push russia should not resort to bombing ukrainian territory. We have witnessed huge human losses just in the last month or two as a result of the brutal russian air attacks and drone attacks, so i think that this is what we European Countries and ukraine would like to hear american words. Somewhere, without any diplomatic embarrassment. They say whatever they want. Well, i dont know about fun. I would like to know the pleasure, yes, where did he see the huge human losses as a result of russian. Uh, so, maybe, here in donetsk where rockets recently flew into the minibus, so this is it. Well, okay, i, uh, i suggest moving on to other examples then, when he sees something that is not there. And in fact, this is the development of one story that we told you about a few days ago. Now the uk is waiting for putin. What is the story here that happened last week . Show us the footage again, please. We have already shown you a piece of this report by danish journalists. This our ship is admiral vladimirsky but these danes approached him there and said, oh, i see people there. Well, remember, yes, that is, they have a story, what is a gun in their hands . Well, its not even a gun. It is very strange. In general, there was a big scandal, and they said that supposedly under the guise of fishing skins, and our ships. E with disabled transformers looking for targets to destroy. In the north sea. Here , in fact, the cottage, then, uh, all the information ended there, and the british, uh, develop this story, lets see what it has now become the present day. Ah, the British Press. Brits are being scared russia is planning sabotage on vital undersea cables. In the north sea, as a result, the kingdom will be left without electricity and will be paralyzed. The kremlin plans to strike at wind farms and communication cables. Russia has created a fleet of such vessels disguised as fishing trawlers and Research Vessels that carry underwater equipment to monitor and quarter Key Facilities for possible sabotage for greater visibility they even drew a Detailed Route for a certain russian ship off the british coast. This is being passed off as confirming that our rivers were looking for targets to attack. An investigation tracked the ship late last year as it headed across the north sea to marys bay of scotland, it lingered at this huge wind farm, then headed south to another, then proceeded down the east coast of england passing by even more wind farms. Now, one more thing, reconnaissance of positions. They want to be ready if the crisis between the west and russia will become more serious if a war breaks out , obviously we will suffer greatly if both pipelines and internet cables are destroyed at the very beginning of the war. Well, ill honestly tell you that i cant somehow, well, purely psychologically, trust already similar materials, but they are a muddy front line, which listen, youre not an avalanche of this one for me. Im already like a shot sparrow and i know a little, yes, when the editors demand blood. And when she does not demand it, but you knocked me down on a very intriguing moment alexander yurievich literally yesterday. He told us that he would be very pleased. If anything, anywhere would suddenly get fucked up. Im even here, well, here they say, windmills, some kind. They listen to the ship, and then they all have excitement, if they didnt watch us, they wouldnt be all sorts of us. Uh, lets try without the furs. So, uh, what the British Press writes. It leaked from the british general staff. 100 . So ah in turn. Now ill say 150 sure usually they say 146, when im 154 percent sure that on the table in our general headquarters are all these maps of submarine cables, and these display stations there are ready for such trips. In general, not really needed, or what . Wait a night ready. Maybe theyre a year old two years old adam needs to upgrade upgrade to do. And if they are talking about it now, uh, how would they have known earlier this is an element of the information war a reference , however, you said that it is not the information war, but the psychological special psychological russia that is intimidating me, or something, we are intimidating them so that im saying friends you cant beat russia on the battlefield with arms on ukraine lets sit down at the negotiating table. Persuade them to make concessions, because without western support we understand, huh . Kane cant. Uh, actually resist the Russian Military operation. This is your working strategy. You already see some kind of fruits, which, if indeed our company is the fruits that the company brings, in addition to the fact that the british were afraid to transfer somewhere in their know, in fact these are such publications. Its like a poster citizens. Be careful, i understand correctly. Well, everything then, vladimirovich, if all taboos are removed, should it again develop from the shadows. Be. Yes, as a result of the removal of the taboo , it will gobble up. Im pretty sure its iron man. And what do you want to say, after that, of course, everyone is preparing for the worst scenario, and we are for this, if and if, uh, Something Like this happens, with the same british, there, i dont know, or german americans. Here we are, well, no, how was it at all . What is not . Stop . What colour calmly, but if they have something ours will be . The action after the shooting, he talks about the fact that there will be vladimir next. And then viktor zhozevich. Always always adheres. I will say exactly one rule, that if we do Something Like this somehow , that opposite side will naturally inflict the next one, that is, viktor zhozevich warns us, and not yes, of impossibility, and this escalation cannot be allowed for sure. I will give him the floor, so that he himself will now say, and you will object, well, what am i, as translated, yes, any action causes opposition, and therefore, with some kind of joy , expecting such events does not come, but there is something that will not happen here. As a result of such events, neither the americans, nor the british, nor their other allies will stop helping ukraine. So lets alexander, this is it. Eh, the fact that victor really says every time that the answer to the answers will begin, and by increasing the level this is, as it were, an escalation ladder with one exception. I ll give you an example. Boxing match, if i hit the opponent, then naturally wait for him to take a hit on me. And if i cut off his hand, then he wont strike me, but this is not boxing, yes, no. And we have ballet dances on ice, we have a war going on, therefore, if at the xhour by our means not by our unknown means, something swam , a sawfish swam, sawed through, suddenly we disrupt all communications in europe, even with the United States. Im fine. Maybe i didnt finish it in yours then. Wait, i have a question. Are you sure that you cut off his hand, really. Here i drank fish, went sawed, that is, you cut off the hand of this opponent of your boxer and rejoice that they will not be able to strike, but it turns out that you did not cut off his hand, but relatively speaking, the tail, which is not very little finger. Well, like, he has nato boxers there, quietly, quietly. For this, an article from the new york times, for this, intelligence should work to collect information to walk underwater north america and cut it off once. So no more growth. So lets Alexey Petrovich if you are talking about the tail, i also remember an anecdote. I have there, uh, it was a boa constrictor who was at fault, but this famous cartoon was so cut off. The tail says, yes, yes, up to the very head. Yes, you understand with little fingers, people, not yet. You say, well, you cant cut off his head, because lets cut it off. The tail, for the most like this, but the fact is that, firstly, we will not deal with little fingers. Well what do you think . Well, something we were there, it was a fulltime injection to do. No, this will not happen. If we talk seriously, but on the other hand, you need to understand that what is happening now in europe, these spy spy on maneuverability. This is the demonization of russia, this is the dehumanization of all russians and the deletion of russia for the history of european programs. This program now throughout europe in europe is now preparing for the fact that in eight years in europe you will not find a single euro. Whoever says something good will not pass them. Theyll all be hated in eight years. Well, about the same for him in ukraine, this is if his administrator ends in 2030 in 2030, and natos Strategic Program 2030 in 2030. It must be monolithic firmly, a welded militarypolitical bloc in which there will be no National Interests of individual states. They will all be subordinated to the common interests of euroatlantic security, which extends to the whole world and in which, therefore , opponents are clearly identified in this strategy. This is russia, china, that is. Uh, the europeans will have to hate the russians equally. I understand and china everything lets stop. 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Lets start with the news that ukraine is preparing a provocation in transnistria, according to rt channel sources, back in april , the Ukrainian Armed forces deployed 4,000 servicemen to transnistria, they hid on the rocks of Agricultural Products for several weeks. And now they will advance in two groups from the ninth to the 15th. You see, one of the groups in side of tiraspol in order to divert the e Russian Military peacekeepers, while others at that moment will try to seize the ammunition depot, the largest in europe which is located in the village of sausages , sources of the rt channel report this. Well , the United States is now negotiating with finland on deployment on the territory this countrys military bases are at the disposal of the main finnish newspaper. Helsinki sanato has now even got a copy of the document, for now. If you believe, because the newspaper writes it is not a question on the deployment of nuclear weapons. On the territory of finland however , the United States wants to use this country to deploy its own military bases for maneuvers. Finlands accession to nato is very important for us, finland provides a large army in a state of full mobilization of 280,000 ground forces, a very competent navy , a large and growing air force. They are in the process of acquiring 64 f35s. That will allow creating a grouping of 250 fifth Generation Fighters for all three northern scandinavian countries, so when you connect finland, its very powerful. Well, today several countries at once announced all kinds of negotiations on the extension of the grain deal. Let me remind you that it expires on may 18, the turkish minister of defense said that this friday in istanbul, there will be a meeting of the deputies of the military departments of russia, turkey and ukraine, and there they will just discuss the issue of prolonging the agreement, while specifying in turkish form, that the prospects for the extension are not really clear and everything depends on how the requirements are met russian side. Here it is important to note that russia does not confirm the istanbul talks, our Foreign Ministry only announced a meeting in moscow that is being prepared on may 5 , which will be attended by representatives of the exchange nations organization, while highlevel negotiations on a grain deal are still under discussion. Well, here is how the prospects of the deal itself are commented in the kremlin naturally, we are interested in the terms of this deal being observed, so that the agreements that were reached quite a long time ago are fulfilled. Upon activation of this transaction, contacts to this account continue. Well, here is the urgent news that is coming right now , the press service of the president of russia reports that an attempt was made this night, and to strike an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle at the kremlin residence of the president of russia , the details of this news. I think the very near future will follow, so far, with only one line, they tried to strike with a drone on the kremlin residence of the president Andrey Vladimirovich Andrey Vladimirovich said, in my opinion, its him told us and there were some others. Or maybe not him, but there were such leaks that they had been planning for a long time. In fact, the ukrainians do something similar, but the americans constantly dissuaded them. Thats what strikes at the kremlin well, lets wait. I think today before the end of the program, of course, in detail, of course, yes. I want. Heres a little more to sergeevich to return, because what he said, there are contacts somehow there, he said there. Contacts on this account continue on his transactions. And not only here now our large delegation is in cuba, it has been officially announced that we are dealing with issues there. Here are some grains. There are also unofficially a lot of various hints that we cubans can stir up something similar to what we discussed in the first part of our program. Lets see the plot, theres a little bit. More about it. At the end of last week , a large parliamentary delegation arrived in cuba on an official visit to establish cooperation. She entered the heads of relevant committees of the state duma, headed by speaker vyacheslav volodin, given the historical nature of strategic relations and, uh, our friendship. Shes a special tried and tested uh for decades. Eh, the key is hard. It would be right for us to do everything to ensure that within the framework of the parliamentary dimension. We were able to reach new cooperation information, chairman of the Duma Committee on international affairs. Leonid slutsky promised that russia would not leave cuba and would help, in particular, with the supply of grain and fuel in march to russia already handed over 25,000 tons of wheat to the republic. Slutsky also promised to build up humanitarian cooperation, to train more cuban students in our universities, so that when they return to their homeland, they form political and business. Skeletu became president s, prime ministers and heads of state corporations, we will focus on bringing economic relations , trade and financial ties, as well as cooperation between our countries to a higher level. Because historically our peoples had very good relations. At the same time, as our delegation emphasized, russia is counting on certain reciprocal steps, as experts believe , the deployment of a base of Russian Nuclear submarines in cuba is underway, this and other sensitive topics can be discussed behind closed doors. What was hinted at in our world. Is it considered at all, but the likelihood of deploying the Russian Military infrastructure in countries outside of europe well, for example, lets take venezuela too. I dont want to confirm or exclude anything. Here too i wont depend on the actions of the american colleagues of the United States, the buildup of russian cuban cooperation, is not officially commented on. But the western press is trying to convince the reader that between moscow and havana is not an ideological friendship during the cold war, but a forced economic partnership, in contrast to the Nonalignment Movement that was growing during the cold war and in which developing countries. People like kubo resisted colonialism and western domination. Today, developing countries have little ideological commonality and close unity in pursuing its policy in the current complex international situation, characterized by sharp rivalry between the great powers. Well, we dont ask for this, of course, we dont leave anyone. And here are some response steps. Abbas do you think the cubans can do something beyond the cooperation of a mutually beneficial warning . Lets just say that i am extremely wary of such forecasts that take place today, what they say this is a return. Here in those e times when i have military cooperation, it is fully possible was and so on. I hope everything will be great. Uh, but a submarine base. Its wonderful. Understand im not. I ask if its wonderful. This is wonderful, of course, but i dont really believe in it for one simple reason, cuba today is not a cup, then cuba today is trying to maneuver, but to be both there and there to hope. Here the expert will not let you lie about the fact that it is possible that warming with the United States is possible. Some progress can be made regarding the lifting of the sanctions, because there was such, yes, Barack Obamas course, then then trump is all castros business tried to put his hand on his shoulder and castrated raul. Just like that, i caught it and held it. In general, this is the whole metaphor of these relations was that on camera we saw this one thing, what was inside was completely different. Im sure that in cuba the island is free to hope so for such, but, but im not saying that the relationship will not deepen. Yes, we are a union if we have a big future so uh, emotionally i want to. Thats why i want to ask vladimir viktorovich. Although, as we know, he is a viking by origin, nevertheless. So you will agree that now cuba is not so much a cup, which are, and this does not matter at all. Why one simple reason, but see the russian now anyway looking for different ways to deliver. Uh, discomfort. This is how our overseas partner to the United States of america e, since they have become more active in armenia in central asia, e with the kazakhs. We are now having difficulties one after another here, well, ours simply have to respond in some way. Yes, its not exactly symmetrical. Symmetry is far away here, but it makes connections for such a purpose. Thats quite cuba, like no one else you had, yes, and how wonderful the impression was. Im even a christian, so you can count on them right in a difficult moment. No, you cant count on anyone right now. Well, take it off, you can at least talk about this topic, and this one already creates a certain threat. For the time being, let such a uhhuh conditional for the United States and they definitely wont like it. Well, yes, if they have someone whispering about something next to them, in continue a little. The president of russia was not injured as a result of this attack, right . Uh, the change has not undergone continues in the usual mode of this peskov the russian side reserves the right to take retaliatory measures where and when it sees fit it is being mounted now. Its listened to this listening message. Yes, we will remind you a little later that zelensky is now in euniversal. Now wait, finland finland 13 germany yes, lets go back to this, well definitely go back to cuba. I agree that we must necessarily bring discomfort to americans anywhere, somewhere. Only, perhaps speaking, father and america and cuba nicaragua and venezuela are three points three reference points. How can we threaten . Wait what does it mean to threaten the military, uh, not cool, for example, last year they passed a law allowing the deployment of these foreign troops. I mean the russian troops, with regard to cuba uh, and i answer the question of cuba this or not, but, as i would say, will the will of fate, i had to live and work for a long time on the lip. I want to say that it amazing people and uh, i would not even share the Political Leadership and the cuban people, and they relate to international relations. They are on international relations. They extrapolate human relationships. And in this sense, they are very different from many others, and countries and especially they treat russians well. They remember that they lived, and survived and lived very well. Are they ready now somehow. I think for some reason to donate. And i think that they, for example, and in the sixtyfirst year they were ready take on a Nuclear Strike when our missiles were deployed. Its worth it so much , moreover, often already other times absolutely. By the way, we Alexey Petrovich are there, of course, but not the same, because the older generation is 40 plus they remember well, they studied the soviet union there. They know then the younger generation, somewhere around the age of 2025 years. This is a little different. Yes, they have preserved traditions, but for them we are a kind of distant, but friendly country. Now we need to understand that we are not the ones to be ready. Sacrifice cuba for their own interests. Well, the wrong country, uh, and therefore it deploys something striking on the territory of cuba and it makes no sense , and so it will fly and their air defense will stop. The fact is that cuba, in addition to its sugar cane. There are very good ones. Uh, the wealth that they say, but it is cuba this is , uh, the worlds second largest nickel deposit in terms of reserves. And this deposit can be developed by our specialists. This is wealth that has not yet been revealed, and in exchange for this wealth. First, we must update their military technical. Well them in army, because what it is, of course, they are well done what they do there, what they come up with as a means of weapons, but in the modern world any aggression for a rude one will be more fatal than it was there, for example, in the seventies. Well, there we will reduce the attack in the bay. Yes, at the same time, you need to understand that you also need to substitute a blow. It is necessary to install modern air defense systems, as we supplied venezuela, it closed its airspace. This makes it very difficult. No need to build a base there. Uh, for our submarines. Need item bunkering, then autonomous navigation finding on the position of our submarines. The atlantic will take longer. This was in soviet times, the ships went there, replenished supplies, changed crews and went out again on combat duty. This is more rational and less. It is dangerous for cuba itself, which will have an updated armed forces. We are looking for them to pay not only sugar cane. If we follow such a program, then everything will be fine and also snow. Ships can go there, its not necessary to build something there militarytechnical aleksey sergeevich i dont know whether it happens in the frame on the air or not. You said that cuba is completely different. She drifted towards the usa. I understood you correctly that you do not expect any comparable warm cooperation. As we urge, low, really islands in the dawn of bagrov and because, for example, uh, obamas policy of rapprochement with cuba, it is now being unfrozen by joe biden. There are huge family ties there. A huge cuban diaspora lives in the United States of america. Much more important, perhaps, would be the presence direct flights. Of course , todays cuba has not fallen, but cubans need cubans with relatives who live in the United States, and you understand, but you need, of course, to build relationships. Well, maybe communications need to cause inconvenience to the west, but you need to understand the boundaries in which we are today. Today we cannot offer cuba as much as the United States can offer. I completely agree. As for the population of the people who love russia, we need to use it, but understand what it is. Such a lack of such a headache that we americans can deliver with our allies next to us, we will not be able to deliver to the americans and we need to be friends, but remember the borders. Unfortunately, our current capabilities are particularly with cubes. And for you, sergei, very briefly, the pros and cons, but for cuba, firstly for us, which was not mentioned here, in addition to the traditional very friendly partner relations with cuba allied. There is another advantageous one. E for russias theme is to help cuban aid to venezuela and others, but the leftist government. E latin america left e, various groups, which, uh, this cooperation is beneficial to russia, including now, as far as views are concerned, all this means , excuse me, for gods sake, we need to stop now and the only thing is that after the advertisement we will return to the event that vanya has already managed to tell, i will remind you, that according to the official technicians who fell on the territory of the kremlin, the president was not injured. Sergei sobyanin, the mayor of moscow today , has banned the use of any drones on the territory of the russian capital. Now we will collect all the details that were and the next part of our program will start just on this topic on may 9, on the most important holiday for the whole country on ntv parade dedicated to victory day, live broadcast from red square, and then the best films about the war all day long the war has not yet been staged. 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Please show me, here, as it were, a bench to my left here Alexei Nikolayevich smiles happily that finally, he xiang, yang , sat down on one constitutional field, so that it means now i will not pull, because, of course, you are all waiting. Details. Breaking news that ivan and i have already told you. Wacome on then, now we will not keep our viewers in ignorance further. Yes , lets give us this urgent news about the attempt on the president s general. Here i will stay as close as possible to the text that spread the kremlins word because it is important so tonight the kiev regime tried to strike with drones aircraft on the kremlin residence of the president of russia, this is reported by the president s own service. There were two of these drones. They fell, were put out of action, more precisely, and neutralized here , the military and special services worked together. And there was no damage. There were no casualties. The kremlin regards this attempted strike by the kiev regime as a planned terrorist act and an attempt on the life of the president of russia on the eve of victory day, and here is another wording. I will give you now the russian side leaves reserves the right to retaliate where and when it sees fit. Well, immediately after this news appeared, moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin announced that from today the use of drones in moscow was prohibited. They decided to introduce today a ban on the launch of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in the city of moscow, with the exception of uavs used by decisions of state authorities. Authorities. The decision was made to prevent unauthorized use of the uav, which could make it difficult work of Law Enforcement agencies. I remind you that the unauthorized launch of a uav is an offense and entails administrative and criminal liability. It is clear that after this news, journalists began to attack Dmitry Peskov that, in fact, with the president , i quote putin , today he is working at his president ial office near moscow, but his schedule for the New Residence has remained unchanged, as for the parade on victory day, everything is according to plan. Actually, im glad to take place, uh, on may 9 at andreys. I think that the update is still in progress, release, probably, i really want to say Something Like that, but as they say, an egg is expensive for christs day. Im already directly tired of waiting, when as it is said there, there and so on. Well, you know my position, i designate it constantly in our program. But, probably, now is not the time for me to cut out with my calls there, really. Well see where and when, where and when, sooner or later. Here, i want to return to our topic for breaking news reports. We will follow. So i said we want to this chat. We do not change our plans, which we used to have. Talk about the possible return of one soviet practice and i will immediately say that here i am with both hands because it seems to me that this is a very correct story. And we somehow mentioned it. Well, probably a few years ago. I dont remember a conversation for a long time. It was about the distribution of students. In short, the initiative this Initiative Comes from tatarstan from local parliamentarians. Studying on a budget after completing your studies, in my opinion, 3 years now we will tell you in more detail from work and be kind in your specialty at some enterprise or return money to the budget. Here, in fact, thats all. Lets see who and how this initiative relates. The initiative with compulsory employment of students belongs to the deputies of the state institution. Otherwise , tuition fees. We will have to reimburse the budget for the function of distributing graduates , they suggest entrusting it to commissions at universities , they will send young specialists to regions experiencing a shortage of personnel the state allocates significant funds for Financial Support of training, however , there is a shortage of specialists at the level of District Centers and municipalities. At the same time, young specialists are experiencing difficulties in finding employment, as employers prefer specialists with experience in the work of the initiative of regional deputies, received ambiguous assessments in the state duma , some parliamentarians called the project populism ; be concluded because the state. No, it should be treated by the budget, but by the Budget Department of universities as a kind of nonrecoverable waste, and this should be, in my understanding, sort of like a contract like a state loan that you repay with your work during. Its the same 5 years there, and it will certainly help many of our industries get the coveted new right trained professionals of ours. But the trade unions unanimously supported the idea of ​​labor distribution, believes that it allows each graduate to find a job according to specialties. And this saves time, the power of the idea, and a huge number of guys get an education. After that, they are forced to retrain in working specialties and go. Well, that is, losing in 5 years of your life and thus a modern student, that it is very motivating when you explain to the courier on the phone how to find him . The Main Building of Moscow State University he says, yes, i know, im finishing it. So i think about this Elena Nikolaevna and what is populism . I dont know what populism is. It seems to me that this is such an obvious norm, which in general is already needed simply by everyone and not only the state that i believe that here the business exactly supports absolutely this idea. Although it seems, yes, so far we are talking only about budget places, but you know the question, what is the question, who cant find a job. I think its 100,000 lawyers, or maybe 120,000 economists. All other economies. We just need to come , lets take everyone here simply, because there is a catastrophically lack of personnel of people, another thing is that they leave universities a from universities with very High Expectations and salary expectations. Well, how am i with a diploma. I certified specialist. Now you ask me such a salary, why such a salary, because i spent money on education. Give me everything back and so on. Therefore , here this imbalance of it will still have to be understood, after all, that we have a shortage. What, uh, she roughly speaking brains or hands, i ask you to understand me correctly . Yes, i m talking about brains. These are universities about hands. Im talking Technical Education Technical School and college. We have a shortage of everything and brains and hands, both here and there , and we have a catastrophic enterprise that they cant find specialists, too, there is a lack of brains, and there is not enough, we dont have enough. She now is that business with both hands for the right thing. I heard you, if the business is with both hands for a business is somehow going to participate. If suddenly this system is introduced in that people need somewhere to live, if they go from peoples home region, they need to be fed somehow until they receive the salary that allows them to provide. No just business with both hands behind to somehow force them on. Employees rather participate in the infrastructure business room know business for business now and teaches. You look already at Large Companies already have their own universities, the departments of the Training Group already have all the forces in the Moscow Region, i will now tell you Something Like i cant do this plaid no. Translation is called competence centers. Here is the huge royal Moscow Region korolev center of competence. They gathered under their roof, uh, Technical Schools for a huge number of cities near moscow. And they directly cooperate there with energy with everyone. Here are some other enterprises there, so they are waiting. Uh, graduates. Everything is already working. Well, this is not enough. No, its not everywhere. Maybe this is the price tag. He is somewhat active today. Yes, there is no populism. And in general it is obvious vent, he lie down immediately. They began to giggle, its not obvious that nothing is true, that this is pure water populism, because when, by the way, when a deputy of some one introduces such bills that are completely unrealizable in practice. Its all right, thats understandable. He may not understand there, again , he wants to hype when a whole year. Well, this is a very serious body. Actually with the apparatus brings it all. Why did many besides me read here that this is a bill . Everyone read it in its entirety. And what do you know . How do they offer, for example, to collect applications. In what terms, through commissions , for example, before february 1, they collect from the application, which means 4 months before graduation, which means this future student. So, you can imagine, yes, the business must give an application to understand who it needs during this time, the business can break down. I mean, maybe he needs two specialists instead of one. Secondly, business what is needed, in fact, is not just a specialist, but a specialist who suits him. Both of them, who sent him to turn everything over. And whats wrong with the very idea of ​​student distribution. After what does it mean . Lets do it so well, but the fact that he goes gets a job in his specialty and an apartment, it turns out. Why did you decide that the apartments there are you right . You ask, but there is nothing about this in this law, moreover, this bill says that additional funds from the budget of the Russian Federation are not required. This bill, no need to explain it to me like that. Im talking about the idea itself, which means the idea of ​​distribution. She is like distribution to her when a specialist really gets a good job, when he is provided with good income apartments, which allows him at least normally. Wait, here we have the vanonse, which was at the beginning of the program, now back you didnt hear it, colleagues are there. They somehow used the phrase of the ides promedov with such a laugh. Yes, well, that is, graduates of medical and pedagogical universities whose well, obviously not enough, which earlier, as far as i understand, there are soviet times. So they ended their metliped and drove for a while. Excuse me, maybe even in some village there is a movie. Uh, honeymoon storyteller. Yeah, she didnt want to leave leningrad, but they provided housing. She when she arrived at the house, they were just building, she lived on a barge, well, because they have it there, well, its okay to tell. In any case, what kind of housing was given . And now here is not, i hostel anyway, this is the first. Wait, you tell me you are against this unfinished bill. There are two points colleague. There are two points, the language is not native to me. Yes, it means, and the first moment is the law, no second is itself. The topic of distribution is good or bad distribution, perhaps it was in the soviet union because it was different, like the economy, because everything was strictly regulated there. Everything was actually a state, formally not, but in fact. Lets. Now its just not possible. This is injustice. Well, alexei, i understand that you are also against it. Otherwise you wouldnt transplant. Well pro distribution, uh, i remember an old soviet joke yes, yes, a helicopter is carrying graduates to a distant village. The university descends there , hangs at a height, 20 m above the ground. A crowd is forming under him, which means that the graduates are asking, but when we go down, he says, jump as a pilot, he says. He says youre crazy here 20 meters high cant go down then. Those who jump below will start, and here, well, that is, about the distribution. Ive actually been working in education for many, many years now. There professor at various universities. A hmm im against education. Generally i dont believe in education or distribution. I dont believe in education times and i dont believe in distributions. Yes, i teach, i probably dont believe in him, because because the main thing is that education itself depends, right . As children say. Now ill tell you what, you didnt listen to me and dont believe me. Well decipher it, please, im telling you guys, if you want something, you want to achieve in life. You have to learn tv yourself, so i showed an interest in going out about journalism faculty, it was not graduate students who came to her, especially students. So, well, and everyone is interested in the fact that if the desire matches, everything is fine. Yes, yes, the definition of the country is absolutely not necessary. The country needs a target set, when is it what . Well, this is a very simple story, when there are departmental regions that need people like that, but they make the cry yes among the people that there is such an opportunity to recruit a certain number of young people further for these regions. They buy a certain number of dress pieces. Yes, and for a place in universities, people get an education, then, according to, uh, the contract, and they are obliged to work for a certain number of years, and in the region from which they took it, because the distribution is bad distribution you can be sent to no one knows where, if this is a target recruitment, then they are recruiting people, here in some region of the soviet era and then send them back. I mean, he doesnt need to. Ah, to adapt to the plague, that is, in short, you, uh, you say that you have helped now, that the initiative should not come from above, that is, we are sending you here. There there, based on some understanding. And for it to be from below, when they really say we need it, we need it like that, that is, uh, the initiative should come from the authorities, the authorities of the factories there, anyone, they should train people for themselves with their own money, then they arrange them on the spot. Fine . Yes, they support that , well, in my opinion it is very strange to talk about in the government of the subject of the Russian Federation that he suffers from populism there, especially what is it . Of the most industrial regions that were engaged in longterm planning there, at least within the framework of the fiveyear plan and better than ten letka who spoke. Here we will develop, for example, the ekibastuz coal basin. And here are the applications. We need a workforce balance. Let such people prepare these people after, well, and so on and so forth. This is one side, and then you need to recreate, in principle, the entire team, or this is a matter for discussion. Eh, you can always improve something, but you understand to marry eh, a horse and a quivering doe in one strip from the shoulders. Well, its pretty stupid. It is just possible, yes, to get 8 meters of barbed wire. Yes, it is true. 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Let s see, this is a study by the Higher School of economics, and last summer, like a year earlier, most of the state and paid students entered the medical faculties. It is connected by the heads of the pandemic, first of all then the physicians are required a lot in the second place. Type of popularity informatics and all sorts of Computer Technology on. You see, pedagogy is jurisprudence and economics, while you can study as an economist in half of all universities in russia , not even in the profile. And one more study this is the company headhunter, it shows that 40 of University Graduates do not work in our specialty; of them, almost half moved to another job due to low wages. A third did not even start working in their specialty after completing their studies. Victor joseph, here we have a lot, well, i dont want to say about all, but nonetheless. What part of the useless economists and lawyers. And thats where theyre going to go in this distribution system. Just a second. And you can return again this table and where is the list . Yes, it was the first. As i understand it, just in this case, economists seem to have the most of them, but the outflow is also the largest. This is correct. Yes, yes, that is growth. Almost 3. 000 budget places less, but still, nonetheless. Its still the fifth aa in the interests of the direction, see prudence lawyer, it turns out the largest increase. That is, everyone went right to the lawyers. Yes, and now programmers are all flooded in computer science, what are we going to do with them 50,000. No, what kind of jurisprudence plus 2. 500 is not, the number is credited to applicants budget amount well, i clarified this, then the economist is coming back to you, what are we doing, here with all these shoots, which in the end does not work in the concept. Here, that is , the use of that system, which was quite effective in the soviet time , in our time, completely different structures of the economy are not state capitalist economy. She doesnt work there, there are a lot of problems. I will designate literally a few first private business, in contrast to e state. Or businesses, maybe just close . Today they recruited specialists in this distribution, and after 2 years or a year or a month later. Maybe after 3 weeks something happened, but the right to work or the organization did not have the right to fire him. Is this restriction necessary . Who will decide now will not have the right to terminate that employee. Within 3 years without the permission of some state organization, but the business itself needs it. But what if this is a business that works, then you hire such a stupid employee that you fire him, because the state distributes distribution. And when to distribute this worker, who studied poorly. Where to distribute it to someone, he should, he will fall into someone where he is correctly forced. This is where you should send it. Wait for all sorts of stupid specialists to come out if he is bad studied and hes a shitty specialist, so he shouldnt. Get e diplomas in education, well Andrei Ivanovich is the perfect bubble. This is an ideal magician who wants to gain freedom and not be distributed anywhere, he will study somehow wrong, then another question, since there are students who study for a fee and who will not be part of this project. They will not be distributed anywhere by business. They will think about it or it is more profitable for business representatives to take those who studied for a fee, because they will not be in business no commitment to these people. They wont have to keep them at work. They wont have to provide them with anything, so theres a whole host of questions that will come back on that exclamation of yours. Yes, there are no such questions, and so on the topic, in general, in fact, the First Physical shortage of personnel in all areas. There is no one to work in moscow and the Moscow Region in the rivers, exactly in the cities in the regions. Listen, if we want to, yes, where will you create the conditions for creating them, we did not want to, but serfdom. Yeah send people it is not clear where you want the country to have a production economy. Yes, take back Elena Nikolaevna, you support, as on behalf of the business of the business, which, it seems, should live according to the laws of harsh capitalism. Yes, serfdom for graduates in state employees themselves agreed it is clear that she has already started you only two against four, so you are each other. Dont interrupt. Lets not first. This is the first second we all understand that recent years have stimulated people to go to the region, young graduates went and the zemsky Doctor Program and a million rubles were given and housing was given. No, they are not going now. They will sit here in moscow as waiters instead of coming and working out their budgetary education, so dear comrades, you need to introduce nerves and dont immediately have an interview today. I was driving here. I ask him who is in education. He says a lawyer, Higher Education higher. Why are drivers in the first Place Specialists who studied well and in their third fourth fifth year already worked. Eh, in practice the practice was internship at the enterprise, he will be torn off with his hands without any distribution. This is firstly, secondly, yes, all these programs are good cool doctors. Everything else he himself tore it off with his hands, he himself gave me the second zemstvo distribution. Wait, wait you anton cook that you will pick up the bandits like this. And how then it turns out that we have a lawyer with a Higher Education turned out to be a driver. So, look, you had such a reservation, you said, a good specialist, which means they will tear him off with his hands, which means that this lawyer, after all poorly studied, apparently in bondage. Maybe something happened in life, it is unknown or he is lying that he is a lawyer. Yes, hes not lying, diploma, they checked that the crazy taxi showed a diploma, right . Well, listen, listen, well, you know very well that we really have a lot of all sorts of lawyers, managers, who else do we have there my savings so that they go out and its not clear, in general, to whom they are and why do we need so many of them, if why . . And why do we need an accountant for 5 years, why do we need to study journalists for 5 years, why i dont understand, but i would like to return to these programs all these programs zemsky doctor. All the rest are classics. I went. I think things are more important. No, it seems to me that if we have a flaw in that we actually flood the market with specialists who are unnecessary to anyone, when it means specialists from this and this happens precisely because we still dont have a really normal scientific approach forecasting five by 10 by 15 years ahead. What specialists do we really need we have all this either, uh, financial topic, or a hype topic, now well do it. Eh, a lot, that means programmers. I will be very happy. If, for example, 50,000 will come out every year, then, respectively, and which one will be typed, there are 500 million or one and a half million. They have a normal job. They will go to work, respectively, again , they have become all the warriors that people go to, but this is a point solution to the problem. These are not Systemic Solutions to the problem. When where, damn it, chic , this is not the last phrase. Here is the phrase gift. Its not some dumb bullshit the state is each of us and we all decide, the state is what i said. Okay, this is including his state. I am the state, this is the state. This is the victor of each and every state. Come, its up to the people to decide who to send where. For what money do you understand . This is what we decide. Yes, we determine, here you determine, because you have a doctor in your local clinic. But those who are listening to us are a beard with a population of 50 60. 000, approximately wait wait you listened to you decide you now lived in a rural terrain. I understand better than you what problems there are in the soviet area, there are doctors and teachers. I said that these problems need to be addressed. You have to pay normal wages. It is necessary to allocate normal money. And what is offered. This is not a solution to the problem. These are people. So they lived against me in shit, thats all the young professionals. Yeah shit level. Well, no need to smoke yes, lets. 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Call by phone or order on our website leoma. X. Ru this is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and we continue. Well, i remind you that the main news of the day. This is an assassination attempt on the president of russia today at 3 00 night. Two ukrainian drones attacked the kremlin residence. Vladimir putin, both of these drones were shot down by the efforts of the military and special services, the president was not injured. Uh, his schedule has not changed, this was reported by his press secretary dmitry e, peskov well , according to peskov, the parade on red square will also take place as planned. For now, here are some further updates. No , lets move on to other topics of the day, and this is just by the way of our discussion, regarding whether they are highly paid or not. Very, paid professionals who live in shit and vital professions. Yes, which is exactly what we re talking about right now. These are the bloggers that we are now interested in, the federal tax service and gives them a lot. And attention to those who have a large number of subscribers. And big earnings on wednesday morning became. It is known that the federal tax Service Suspended all operations on the Bank Accounts of daria zateeva, better known to us under a pseudonym. Instafemale about this on may 3 writes the telegram channel mash. He referring to her sources in the tax service, by an amazing coincidence, the singer, just the day before , shared footage from the aircraft cabin on social networks. Here you can see them geotagged. Dubai , according to the same mesh, insta female entered the socalled black list of bloggers, who, like the grief marathon run with elena blinovskaya. That week they were talking about suspected tax evasion and Money Laundering on may 2 , news appeared on the network about the blocking of the accounts of two companies that are associated with blogger Oksana Samoilova and two companies in the name of tiktoker diss issaeva, the federal tax service , this information has not yet been officially confirmed at the same time by the head of the Internet Security league. Ekaterina mizulina warns that this is only the beginning . Now we see that systematic work on the part of the tax service of the Investigative Committee is in full swing. I think that we will witness not a single highprofile situation related to nonpayment of taxes and another blogger who also came to the attention of the tax. This is alexandra mitroshina. Shes here on wednesday repented and said that yes, the last few years did not pay due attention. Accountants, Investigative Committee. Let me remind you that i brought a criminal case against her for nonpayment of about 120 million rubles. Taxes were at the end of march. And now, as ria novosti reports, at the end of april, the girl repaid the debt presented to her. I made a mistake and focusing on how i develop as a blogger, as an expert, how i develop projects and a team, i, starting from about the twentieth year, did not pay due attention to accounting and taxes. I admit mistake and indeed some taxes were underpaid. There was a monstrous error where not. Well listen. Well, of course, i want to ask the experts. What area, then on the other hand, if the young lady did not pay extra 120 million, then she really is an expert, in this matter, thank god that such specialists are not trained anywhere in our country. They somehow themselves how to appear, like mushrooms. Yes . Well , lets go back anyway. I remember remember, yes, uh, in my opinion, either nikolaevna asked a question about what we still lack. I said theres a shortage hands in the regions, in principle, there for a long time, as if they realized that this is really a practiceoriented approach for them, already from the first place, on average, about 50 of the time allotted for practical training, students conduct training. Industrial enterprises in the college with modern equipment supplied to us by the industry of beautifully renovated premises kuyvashev conceived the reform. He wants to transfer all colleges and Technical Schools, after all, to noncore ministries, so that they conduct targeted recruitment students. They also want to introduce this practice in dagestan, the task of increasing the output of qualified workers. They are ambitious, they are represented by the president of the country, and doubt is one of the key aspects for enterprises today. Aleksey nikolaevich so then he can somehow start from this principle of dislike for education of yours, as if a little bit of this sacredness of Higher Education, how to remove and engage in Technical Education. Thats who we really need, see Technical Education, indeed, it requires certain qualifications. And it takes a lot of time. I myself am an engineer myself, i studied heat Power Engineering for 6 years. But under soviet power, it ends. Moscow Power Engineering institute. Im probably not talking about universities, but im talking, thats what it was called. At our Technical Schools there, at the Financial University , sociology was taught at the same time. I had a joke for students, and a fouryear sociology course in 2 hours. That is, i could explain to students in 2 hours the main ideas of sociology, which will be told for 4 years, that is, if desired cut money. You received a teacher for four years. Or for two aha its Something Like that. But really a joke, yes, this is a joke in honor of education. They are money. And so. Uh , education, lets say the humanities, it can be reduced Technical Education , understandable, it is not necessary and impossible to reduce, as far as any education is concerned. They are now flustered. Good liberal education. It is absolutely not necessary to reduce not in any area. So, look, what about the principles of education in general . I would go back to the principles that were considered in the middle ages, when there Leonardo Da Vinci e, went to learn to draw. How did you start . You put the paints there to grind and then canvas and like this to him, that is , he did something there and at the same time he was taught to draw. Thats how several years spent in the workshop gradually took him there as a great artist. That is, any education should be tied to practical activities, including, by the way, economic activities, and so, that is, we have just looked. Education in the workplace there at Machine Tools is the best education. With what is considered some kind of general preparation. And the fact that we have such an obsession with university education, jan janca, is some kind of leftover. I do not know for several decades of history. Here you get sacralization, which means a university crust. If you become a person with a good r, all your life you will have some kind of it and it will be over. Here, classes will go to the institute. Yes, you go to the Vocational School there is no sewerage and there is nothing to be ashamed of that comes to him, so the employees. Here he is, he says, forget everything about what he was foisted on at the university, they say and say so, and i dont have a college education. Well then , you are no good for us, no good for us, we need to call graduates of universities audibly. Uh, you know, and uh, this is what you just asked about, this is, uh , an eternal problem that has existed for at least 100 more than even 100 years. And this is a kind of general university education. That is, the word university, it is a singleroot word universal, that is, universal education, when people are there for the first few years there for 2 years. Actually. Many universities not in russia work like this for the first 2 years this general liberal education. And after that you decide in some area you want to specialize, because without a general education without you raising your understanding of the world and yourself in this world to a certain level. You wont be able to make the right choice. This is one paradigm, another paradigm. These are what are called Technical Schools. There germany is technical there and in englishspeaking countries there are also many logically called, which they say you know. Go to university and youll know a lot of theories but practically you cant work. And here we are not going to give you the theory, but we will give you a practical orientation, practical skills, and both should exist. There are no questions here, even if it is obvious that he has outlined in one direction. Yes, it is necessary to correct this or see how it should be corrected by itself, of course, but to do this by adopting a law on the mandatory distribution of those who studied on the budget to the budget budget. Its quite a funny way to fix it, you know, but in fact, when at the same time it is said that people studied on the budget, let them give it back. Its like, you know. Dear atm, thank you so much for giving me my money, because people who studied at the budget were not formed from the moon, the budget was formed at the expense of taxes and people studied there for their own money or the money of their parents. Well have more vectors. Look important. No, lets do better. 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Excuse me, i dont want to offend anyone, but its true that your proposals for solving this problem viktor zhezovchik is to solve this problem, preferably not by coercion, but to provide propaganda with propaganda and propaganda of which propaganda of working professions propaganda of those professions that the labor market needs to be reinforced so fucking conditions that can professionals. So lets Oleg Vladimirovich come on, we have been trying to solve the market for 30 years and not solved this problem the state should return to the regulation of the state regulator public regulator. It should also regulate the interests of the labor market. And education to connect with each other and people Aleksey Nikolaevich to all freedom of any distribution everything should, strike to regulate the labor market. Well, if he has not been able to regulate this for 30 years. Well, if he hadnt been able to adjust, we wouldnt be sitting here with anyones staffing situation. Cheskaya this will tell you any small medium large state municipal any enterprise, therefore, very tough measures are now needed, perhaps for the next 5 years , firstly, to reduce the number of universities , and secondly, to drastically reduce enrollment in many specialties. Thats what we talked about, lawyers and so on. Unfortunately or fortunately, but now we need engineers in the real sector to the machine tool. Doctors teachers. We need people. Antonchik is disgusted by many universities and specialties that are offered. It is not only we who decide the opportunities for future students to receive a normal education, but we also we just throw out a huge number of teachers on the street, my proposal is exactly the following, we need a systematic approach to the state. I dont like the word regulate. Probably rather to carage. What is the need for what kind of personnel and through its state budgetary places . This is this , we will rub everything to fulfill everything, the point of our todays argument. Its actually not even about the labor market. Its about how much a citizen should return to the state in one form or another the money that the state spent on him sports philosophical Andrey Vladimirovich in different guises and we will conduct another program. Today we argued not about this, but a philosophical approach. Now there was a lot about students. Yes, and for the first hour there we had such a healthy piece about surveillance through the windows. Yes, if you remember, a story has surfaced from the depths of memory that unites these topics. Yasha, we urgently need to buy that the curtains in the bathroom are a sofa, my joy. Why is this necessary . A student dormitory was built opposite our house. Students can see me naked in sofas. Dont need in vain spend money as soon as students see you naked. They themselves will reset to us what it was. 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