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Went without zelensky; as a member of the twenty , they managed to avoid the bullshit of ukraine ; fugitive russian artists are asking to return to their homeland. Whether the motherland is ready to take them back, look right now. Hello, is this Meeting Place on ntv a place where everything becomes clear . Im Andrey Norkin my colleague ivan trushkin. We are working live. As you can see from our announcement. Today we have a lot of different topics. Well, we will start, as always, with the news. I would like that said, even with the good news about annulina berba. Well, really, i even felt a little sorry for my aunt. So she finally solved her transport problems. If you remember, she tried to fly away some time ago , tried to fly away twice, in my opinion, she couldnt do it both times to australia because two planes broke down in a row. Then that week she wanted to go somewhere by train, the train broke down. Well, thats all, its good now. Yes, yes, the train has been repaired, where should we go . Well , naturally to kiev. Here she is there this morning arrived, everything is the same as in the case of the us secretary of state, such a veil of secrecy and mystery. Well, nevertheless, something is already done now. You can tell after the fact, it means you have arrived, i repeat again on the train at the station. Now you will see her met by the ambassador of uh, germany in ukraine, his name is martin jager. Well, thats probably it anyway. Uh, man. And this is his wife. I dont know, this is probably the german ambassador, but it doesnt matter, and the head of german diplomacy assured representatives of the kiev regime of unwavering support from at the same time, berlin really called on kiev to continue the reform , including that aimed at fighting corruption in the official kamenka , which was published by the german, saying that verbak made an unexpected visit to kiev as a sign of support for ukraines efforts to join the European Union. Stefan steffing what to expect from the visit of the head of the ministry of Foreign Affairs to ukraine, the minister will meet with the president of ukraine, support for ukraine will be discussed , one of the topics is the supply of longrange cruise missiles, of course, the situation in ukraine will be discussed at the front, they will also discuss such issues as ukraines accession to the European Union and the further implementation of reforms. Including in the fight against corruption in ukraine, well, us secretary of state anthony blinken, who, as you remember, recently visited kiev for 2 days, barely left the ukrainian capital, began to give a very peculiar interview. For example, there is an interview with the abc tv channel where he reflects that if moscow shows interest in negotiations on ukraine, then ukraine tells us blinkin is ready for such a peace process, in fact, he says that ukraine is ready for negotiations, which directly contradicts the position of kiev, which was enshrined in law a year ago. As for negotiations, it takes two to make a difference, and so far we have not seen any signs of diplomatic interests on the part of Vladimir Putin, and if he shows interest, then i think the ukrainians will be the first. Who will enter into negotiations . And we will be right behind them, Everyone Wants this military conflict to end, but it must end on fair and sustainable terms, reflecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. Well, the terrorists feel the shame of the jewish people. Zelensky, apparently, feels like the ground is slipping from under his feet. Yes, its better to have a kind of interview with the british edition of the icon. There he appeared as such an offended blackmailer, firstly. He says that he feels that the consensus of western countries on ukraine is somehow falling apart and moving apart and threatens those who try to make things worse from this concept. When i read hear and see in their eyes, we will always be with you, but i see that he or she is not here with us when some partners say, so what about the counteroffensive, when will the next step be . My answer today is that our steps are probably faster than the new sanctions packages, interview. This came out as a subtitle. This is a bad moment for diplomacy. And there , the terrorist zelensky called on western politicians to abandon the idea of ​​negotiations with russia altogether and believe in ukraines chance to carry out a successful counteroffensive. He also assured that he himself is physically and emotionally ready for a protracted war of attrition in russia, but for this he lacks according to zelensky, western resources will not stop the curtailment of aid to kiev. End of the conflict. She is against his words. This will lead to a prolongation of hostilities, but moreover, the terrorist zelensky threatens that stopping funding for ukraine could provoke an unforeseen reaction from thousands . Ukrainians who have now settled in western countries after the start of the conflict, well, the pentagon believes that they have a month left, but maybe a month and a half in order to do something with their counteroffensive, because otherwise nature will already intervene, the roads will become soft due to the rains and some opportunity for maneuvering at the front will disappear. You see, this is general miles, the head of the American Joint chiefs of staff, but according to us, this is like the chief of staff. Here he speaks directly about this ukrainians are still making sustainable progress. There is still plenty of time left, probably about 3045 days , before bad weather could hinder them. So the ukrainians are not finished yet. The fighting is not over yet. They did not complete the combat part what they are trying to achieve is too early to say that the ukrainian counteroffensive has failed or has not failed; heavy fighting is taking place. Well, here we can andreevich move from the battles that are already underway to battles. I wanted to close the topic of blinkins trip, because over the past few days there have been a lot of different pictures related to how blinkin and kuleba sat at mcdonalds and in kiev. And i liked it most of all. Eh, just a little bit yesterday, its the latest one. Eh, i came across this picture, and its interesting such an angle and right on top of them, how was it filmed there . Well, apparently someone raised the camera there and its very clearly visible, which means that there s a bag of fries lying next to the kuleba in the hands of the pie and its written that the kuleba is talking. Or maybe well take something else, and theyll celebrate the blinkin, eat it, lets have it, its delicious , period, i liked it, so lets get to the news. We will come back again, and now the next one is ours. Eh, this one is the first one today. And i would like to start blok in the program again with the classic saying of zemaner alter coumarin to the republics, if you remember in the film mimino the phrase people like you disgrace the republic , uttered by professor khachak, extremely dissatisfied with the activities of his namesake. It seems to me that now professor khachaan probably has the same thing. It would be possible to say this phrase in some broader sense over the last few years. There has been so much news related to armenia. Ahh. Of course, we couldnt ignore this topic anymore, but this is the proposal. This means that armenianamerican military exercises began today. Thats right today we will start from this moment with this fact and gradually we will rewind all these events, all this news back, because i want to raise, in general, what is happening. On monday, a tenday joint exercise with the United States called eagle partner 2023 started in armenia ; the composition of the participants, however, is quite modest, only 85 american soldiers and 175 armenian ones in yerevan , against the backdrop of another aggravation of relations with neighboring azerbaijan, the event was called important and they are already promising to prepare an Armenian Army so that it meets nato standards. The decision to conduct the us exercise is a sovereign decision of armenia. I understand that various parties may have concerns and express dissatisfaction. The decision taken is also a reaction and result of the deepening armenianamerican relations. The maneuvers in armenia naturally alerted russia. Moreover, after yerevan in january refused the planned exercises of the csto forces on armenian territory, which includes armenia, the kremlin said that they would monitor the situation with the americanarmenian exercises, the head of the Russian Foreign ministry spoke out more straightforwardly, the aggressive country nata and is trying to penetrate the transcaucasus, uh, we dont see. I dont think that this is good, but its good for someone, including armenia itself, wherever the americans appear. They know, they have hundreds of bases all over the world nowhere. This doesnt do any good. Against this background, armenia is also actively inviting armenia into its ranks; such an invitation was made last week by the president of the nato European Development committee , gunter felingar. Federation council of russia armenians are warned against rapprochement with the western military bloc, but in yerevan itself they assure that they were not invited to nato. Nobody in nato called on armenia to join the alliance, but yerevan is ready to continue cooperation with this organization, as for the partnership between armenia and nato, it is being implemented, we have been cooperating with nato in various formats for several years and the armenians themselves are ready to continue this process. More and more people identify themselves with the western world, especially those living in the United States. Last friday, Rolling Stone magazine published an open letter models Kim Kardashian and armenianamerican director Eric Israelian to president biden. They called on the United States to intervene in the conflict with azerbaijan and prevent a new genocide of the armenians in january from reilian, together with the singer of armenian origin, cher wrote an article for the american magazine newsu and where he also called on the white house to help her ivan we ask our political leaders in the United States and the people of all of the world who care about justice and decency boycott and sanction these bloody regimes shutting down the neverending flow of money and applying more consistent standards when it comes to protecting human rights. Come on, destroy the shera. This, of course, is impossible for cher forever or 20, probably back at her farewell concert nothing grandma sings like this gevorg valerievich why is such cosmic speed just in the last few days, but was taken by yerevan in the process of rapprochement with america and with nato, is this rapprochement at all, and you think no, maybe it could be shown then, like two questions would be good . You they took it as an epigraph, and it became professor khachakyan. I would take another word from the minister. Lavrovs two words much acceptance reflects everything that the armenian leadership is doing now. And it would seem, yes, well, people are engaged in collective suicide by destroying their own state, but in reality , everything, unfortunately, is much more complicated. So you say, why has everything accelerated so much . Because what we see now is part of a great strategy that the armenian leadership has. Its not like pashinyan has been developing over the past years and i know yours relationship, but still try to explain to me, you are saying suicide to the state, but it is unlikely that the person who occupies the main position, well, the president. Eh, a little aside, the main person in armenia is the Prime Minister. Yes. So he occupies such a post and he wants to destroy his country, he probably has some kind of logic of his own, fish quote, i dont really like it, theres no need to confuse your fur with the state. Yes, in this case , mr. Pashinyan is not guided by the interests of the armenian state. Somehow someone, because he is interested in the armenian state obvious and, unfortunately, for him there is no alternative. Armenia has no other options other than to completely rely on russia for its security , simply because not because we are good or someone is bad, but simply because there are no alternatives to russia; neither iran nor the United States nor france can ensure the security of the armenian states. Why is this all that we are showing now, because this is yet to come. As part of a strategy aimed at ousting russia from the south caucasus, which is implementing pashinyan, at least since the eighteenth year since his premiership, elements of this strategy were the release of karabakh in the twentieth year. An element of this strategy is also an attempt to explain to the armenians to explain to the armenians incorrectly that russia is not a reliable partner. Why are relations now being escalated, including allegedly with russia . Well, they demand too much from russia. Put her in the place of the russian leadership. Now there is a lot from russia that demands that russia defend there and do something. Believe in your peacemakers creative mandate. Thats the point of the russian leadership now doing something risky with a knife in the back from the tires. Lets maxim anatolyevich yes, i shook my head at the same questions, just yes, come on, come on, answer, why has it accelerated right now . Well, because a new war is approaching, because azerbaijan with a high degree of probability may start very soon. A new operation the azerbaijani troops were already concentrating, there were already a lot of personnel where they were so tactical like zet and in ours before 24 february. In general, uh, in this situation, pashinyan wants to explain the inevitable future defeat and the inevitable future concessions to his electorate to his compatriots in the easiest way, that russia is to blame for everything , its our ally who abandoned us, this ally allows the azerbaijanis to carry out a blockade of karabakh a and in general, now there is no choice left for us and a new election but to turn around. Yes, no , wait, please wait. And what, the United States, if events develop as you say, they will find that this its impossible to explain, because i agree with gevorg. Well, thats how it happened. This is the situation in armenia, what to protect . Maybe only russia if america wants to protect, it cant wont want to for many reasons, even the collective west, for example france, where the most powerful Armenian Diaspora cant do anything militarily that could affect aliyev, there wont be soso sanctions, because the west depends from Azerbaijani Energy resources, which have now been replaced, so europe does not depend. It seems to me that you are Alexander Nikolaevich they said that you admit that the americans will somehow seriously intervene on the armenian side. Why is it that armenian politicians come as a surprise to me personally, that for a long time i was convinced of exactly what gevorg said. So, in general, armenia is the representative of russia in the south caucasus , there are no alternatives, and so on. But i knew that there was a huge amount of american or socalled democratic ngos, there was soft power there, and so on. Further, but the ratio is this, uh, about 60 to 40, it remained in favor of russia and suddenly like this. Heres the turn. Well, what can i say, they were very offended. They expected appropriate steps from the state clinical hospital. Which ones, accordingly, will the dkb fully support them with armed intervention, including Alexander Nikolaevich alexandrovich themselves . The csto can intervene . When it defends one of its members, if armenia recognized, for example, nagornokarabakh as its territory, i dont know if it would have declared, im completely pashinyansky, if they recognized this as an independent fraternal state for themselves, and so on. They themselves have not recognized or declared any general mobilization, and they also want the territory, thank you, well, exactly. Thank you, it is impossible not to mention all these claims and they began long before , all these claims began when there was no incident. Now were talking were talking, now wait. Now, if about now there was a question that you have not yet answered now Alexander Mikhailovich lets see ah. And how is america . Hmm, physically, what can they do . Do . Well, in fact , they can put pressure on both ankara and baku, so they put pressure on ankara. Something doesnt really show up as a wolf. Lets see, because politics. And what is happening now in armenia does not appeal to me either, because after the last few months , from the point of view of yerevan, the main culprit, from the point of view of yerevan, of everything that is happening, for some reason, is russian inaction. And there is always any problem there. It was the russians who didnt do enough or didnt do it. Lets get the material on last this week, numerous videos appeared on social networks where columns of Azerbaijani Military equipment were allegedly moving towards the border. With armenia, footage later appeared of the transfer of armenian equipment. And it also seems like boundaries at the official level. Completely mutual accusations against azerbaijan. It has been accumulating troops along the contact line for several days. In nagornokarabakh and the armenians on the azerbaijani border , armenian hate speech has become more intense in the azerbaijani press and propaganda platforms. Armenian the military in karabakh left the barracks area and were transferred to forward positions. Which indicates high combat readiness, while in yerevan for some reason they decided to shift responsibility for the tension in the region to russia at the beginning of last week, armenia recalled its permanent representative from the collective security treaty organization; moreover, in the local Security Council they say that membership in the organization creates certain problems. And when the csto asked for protection, the anamul did not act, and the claim to moscow is said by Prime Minister pashinyan, according to him version, our peacekeepers allegedly do not fulfill their obligations. And thats not all, some figure, in my opinion, the head of parliament allowed himself to say that russia gave karabakh to azerbaijan. Well , its hard to imagine a more incorrect and dishonest statement. Russian peacekeepers appeared in nagornokarabakh in 2020, when after another escalation, azerbaijan and armenia, with the mediation of russia, concluded a tripartite agreement. Our peacekeepers deal with humanitarian issues and monitor, that the parties observed the ceasefire, however, both baku and yerevan even said when signing the documents that this was a temporary measure and the karabakh issue. It will not decide; russia has consistently devoured both sides to the negotiating table all this time. This conflict has been going on for decades, so ah , we still need to end it someday, i agree with this, i know that, uh, you have the political will for this, uh, and we support this in every possible way. At the same time , yerevan, which constantly reproaches moscow, has more than once declared its readiness to recognize karabakh as part of azerbaijani pashinyan said that this is possible if the security of the armenian population is guaranteed by the local opposition then. Not in this statement, like the surrender of nagornokarabakh andrei nikolaevich, can you somehow describe to me the train of thought, perhaps, on the armenian side, an attempt to hang all the cards on russia, an attempt to come to an agreement, as if with a defender who, in fact, cannot defend, i i dont i understand, thats the logic here, but here you know, theres a very peculiar logic here. You are not here, it was wrong it is said that the conflict has been there for a long time. And if you unscrew it back, you understand that the karabakh problem was one of the cornerstones, for which the union collapsed, and there, too , no one wanted to catch the sanity of the armenian politicians, that is , this was repeatedly said to solve the problem that we are seeing here. Well, we must start from the fact that pashinyan, firstly, is not an armenian politician. He is about western politics and he takes longer to solve problems that, in his vision , solve the problems of the people on whom it is oriented, and this is not the armenian people at all. When we talk about the conflict that resulted in azerbaijan in its twentieth year. He returned the territory, which, let me remind you, was stopped and did not turn into a complete defeat of armenia. Only thanks to the intervention of russia and the strengthening that, firstly, mr. Pashinyan never recognized the nagornokarabakh republic and did not declare war on armenia , the Armenian Army did not enter the war. Yes, they are azerbaijani armenia just showed up and they will call it, you understand, he did not do this. And all. This time he talked about bad russian missiles, because he was brought to power in 2018 with the sole purpose of creating problems for russia in the southern caucasus and forcing it to leave there in the best possible way. In fact, mr. Pashinyan. I said this here, and hell finish by saying that, as the head of a turkish province, hes an idiot for this, and only when they tell me that the americans are decreasing somewhere. You see, the americans have a foundation, natos main ally in this region. This is turkey , so the americans will give it up with peace of mind army. As a prospectorate, there will be some problems for the armenian people. Americans dont care much about who thinks otherwise. Remember about the childrens genocide a hundred years ago , there were a lot of words from the west about how to clean up, that, well, no one saved the armenians and the american state today exists exclusively because at one time it existed russia and the soviet union , mr. Pashinyan is primarily focused on the armenian people, he has his own tasks exactly as mr. Saakashvili did not care about the georgian people, mr. Zelensky, in ukrainian is exactly the same field and andreyka is now after all. Then, uh hmm, if we look at it from our side, you said creating problems for russia, but how can this process move forward, what will these problems look like, lets say, in a month, if everything goes on, since its going on now, if we say, if you say that the americans there will hand over this armenia as a protector, such a problem. Our situation will be very simple and another conflict will begin. Our peacekeepers are under attack. We provide the situation, or a second front opens. There you will have to fight with azerbaijan from turkey or you think for yourself, but in width it will be time to stand aside or go away. After which she will say that we are fulfilling the agreement with you, she will demand that we take away the military bases from there and get out of armenia. Uhhuh, and then turkey will deprive the pashinyans of their questions in their cabinet. Pashinyan does not care about what will happen to the armenians in russia at all. Avoid problems victories and tragic mistakes of the armenian leadership, but there were certain mistakes on the part of uh, errors in calculations on the part of russia and it is important that they are not repeated. And what mistakes . I say first of all, in moscow, many hoped that the end of the second karabakh war, unsuccessful to put it mildly, would lead to the fall of yerevan. Eh, pashinyans authorities. However, this did not happen. This is when he was hiding. There were several episodes for a month and a half when it seemed that everything yes, pashinyan survived. Can you guess . I just dont want another election to win the election. Absolutely right. Can you guess . I just dont want to use other formulations, that today there are those in moscow who believe that in the event of a new military conflict in the south caucasus, and if it starts and the armenians have to leave the entire territory of nagornokarabakh, then then then and there are armenian refugees, there are 100,000 armenian refugees. They will pour into the territory. Eh, it will be a disaster for armenia economic catastrophe, political, and in moscow there are those who believe that this will definitely lead to the fall of pashinyan. However , they were completely mistaken last time, so as not to be mistaken this time, so it is very important here. In my opinion. Eh, certain certain, and the words must be spoken by the russian. What, armenia, so that the armenian population understands who is responsible for the Current Situation . In my opinion, such words should sound on what topic what, armenia today, the armenian leadership should do or what it should not do for in order for russia to defend within the framework of the csto, as if bypassing the territory of armenia itself, because we are talking, as i already said here, not only about the territory. Lets, you know, nagornokarabakh , most likely, lets be objective, Nagorno Karabakh will go to azerbaijan. Well, no matter how it sounds, he is coming, but now we are talking about something a little different, and lets say were talking about the assessment of the vzor corridor, which turkey and azerbaijan want to, uh, knock out. So break through the territory of armenia in the direction of jeering. This is already a sovereign territory, the armenian republic of armenia and this is where russia can show a principled position. And it may sound like this. Russia may very well not be behind the scenes in any way, but openly make it clear so that it is clear that this is a symbol of the armenians in armenia. They only tell pashinyan that if armenia stops this uh approach to multivectorism, it will stop uh, rapprochement between the United States and france with nato countries, if armenia abandons western platforms for negotiations with baku and switches to russian platforms, then russia, within the framework of the agreement on the cst, guarantees armenia security, its sovereign territory, including the siberian region. This is what it should sound like. In my opinion, on the part of russia, so that if those events that we are talking about here, if they happen, so that pasha does not work out, lets say, someone, i dont know, the minister of Foreign Affairs or there, i dont know, the president himself says. This, and this plan is good point by point, but i thought that the reaction to this would be on our side, it seems. Not the worst now the thing is that the speech is in the wording about which i spoke there is no talk. Regarding nagornokarabakh, in general we are talking about the internationally recognized territory of the republic of armenia, which is recognized within the framework of the Road Accident agreement. Well, russia and other countries are not members of the tkb. Therefore, here it is. Well, you see, what you just said, it seems to me in baku, may be perceived as some kind of aggressive step. Im just asking, listen, youre sitting there planning. Eh, the course of events. I am asking a question there is not a single Russian Military base on the territory of azerbaijan ; the Russian Military base is located in gyumri; base. Eh, azerbaijan, as if they said absolutely correctly, is not a member of the ibc. Armenia is a member of the Road Accident traditionally, armenia is an outpost of russia in the caucasus if russia is ready to lose armenia as this outpost. We can follow that path. We re going, abbas, so i have a question then. Why should we engage in what we call megaphone diplomacy, making some statements and so on, when we already saw in the twentieth year that when president putin calls both leaders. He can resolve the issue quite quickly. Why here . It is proposed to go out on a public plane to declare something when there may clearly be some kind of agreement. Well, not about public ones, well, russia in this case found itself in a very difficult situation on the one hand. I understand what victor is talking about on the other hand. I also understand that we have a lot of our own problems, ukraine, and to say it the way viktor suggests means to quarrel with azerbaijan and turkey. As i understand it, i am now saying without emotion, without my personal position, thats how and the investigator, thats how i am i dont see the situation in the kremlin very well. Uh, this is the, uh, scenario theyre aiming for. Now, as for logic, logic. Here the next one actually won pashinyan after the defeat of armenia not against azerbaijan yes, uh, he won for one simple reason, because for years, western ngos working on the territory of armenia , uh, that means, uh, successfully explained to people that russia and ordinary people in armenia are to blame for everything naive people believed it, so i worked there during the elections. And i saw that this vote was largely a protest. They really voted for pashinyan and pashinyan, he really won honestly, really honestly, but not because they loved him, supported him somehow, yes, and so on, but simply because anyone, as long as he wasnt the former, this is such a formula there was anyone, but not those corrupt ones. And why are they corrupt, because moscow supported them, and who are they, and these are the karabakh clans. This means that karabakh is a complete mess. We need him. This is what was poured into peoples heads, so if now, god forbid there will be a catastrophe. Its not a fact that pashinyan will fly off. Again, these are the same ufos through their media through their agents, the influence will be explained to people. Moscow gave you this, so keep your voice low. Well, or some uh, pashinyan 2. 0, there and so on, but not for those, because they and the kremlin betrayed you. This goes further, as far as logic is concerned, but armenia actually has it, and it is ironclad, these constant complaints against moscow are due to one simple thing inflated expectations from russia and what are the reasons for these High Expectations . Complete dependence on moscow and in. Well , indeed, even now they naively, again, believe that these exercises with nato are some kind of conversations. Eh, teaching with america , conversations, her visit to pashinyans wife in kiev and so on will diversify somewhat, somehow it will make them more independent, or something. What is this logic based on . I dont really understand. I call it, just a political crisis. Right here. Eh, gevorg said, but suicide is throwing. Well, there really isnt a political crisis. Heres a clear understanding. What to do . Thats what i would like. What else right now we have very little time, and we hmm dont answer. We answer the main thing. Ahh. I dont really understand for us, but whats the difference . Now you are saying everything, even. If there is a war there, yes, if it happens , as it was said, a catastrophe is absolutely not a fact, there, that pashinyan will not hold out, there or he will hold out with you. What difference does it make whether he changes, whether he continues his policy or whether he wont be there . And what will happen then, that is, we are not just complex situations. And so am i i dont understand at all, then in this case, i also dont absolve us of blame, at least for the fact that we ignored somehow didnt take very seriously all those ngos that worked there for years, apparently we fell into the trap of a stereotype , according to which, if the country is close, if it is dependent, then it will not go anywhere. Thats what we need. Indeed, as victor correctly noted , he does not step on the same rake. That is, you support, these are the ones we need. There is no worse way to work, what needs to be done now is openly, but it is not possible to express a position about it openly i know, but we absolutely wait, these ngos, oh, which we are all talking about here and by the way , they have not been operating openly for many years, what prevents us from also systematically effectively and deeply carrying out work on the territory, which is essentially this business, but really to us very close. You are proposing a longterm plan. And now we are trying to understand in the event of some kind of crisis. Well, its a military moment thats happening right now. Yeah, not publicly or publicly, but turn on all the levers so that this conflict does not happen. The most important dont be like pashinyan and dont give in to emotions, because the wild ones are an irritant for the kremlin, but its the armenian pashinyans who come and go. These are all his general words, if we allow it now, even if they hate them broadly. Yes, this means that if we allow azerbaijan to quietly do whatever it wants from the territory of armenia itself, which is our ally, it will be a colossal blow to our prestige in the eyes of the percentage of all other allies, current and potential , in africa somewhere and in the csto. There, kazakhstan and belarus cannot do this, therefore, in at some point, aliyev just has good, very good human contact with our president. 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This Meeting Place on ntv is a place where everything becomes clear and we continue this information part. Lets start with an urgent message from ria novosti. They refer to Kremlin Press Service and messages this is a short message dedicated to the arrival of the north Korean Leader in russia. True, i will read the short text almost verbatim at the invitation of russian president Vladimir Putin , chairman of state affairs of the democratic peoples republic of korea kim jong un will pay an official visit to the Russian Federation in the coming days. So far this is short, if there is some more detailed information. We will, of course, inform you, but for now. Lets get the Foreign Press financial. The times released a very loud publication. So we can look at it and the building reports that nato is planning to hold the Largest Military exercise since the cold war. Why, to test readiness to repel a russian invasion, according to the publication, maneuvers called stalwart defender are planned for the spring of next year and their scale is, of course, significant in the territory. They are poland from the baltic countries , over 40,000 soldiers will train to fight our country, there is no other way to say that over 50 warships will help them in this , in addition, as fine incial writes. Times will fly up to 700 combat missions for the first time in training. Nato will also attract sweden. Whose application to join the alliance has not yet received approval from hungary and turkey, and the potential arena for a clash between nato and Russian Troops is in the very west of nato , which they consider the baltic, where another, uh, exercise is taking place, which is called the northern coast. Why are we talking about them, but it would seem like just another exercise, what is important to take here is that it is not defense that is being practiced, but rather the offensive actions of the alliance in the event of a military conflict. It is clear that our during the exercises, the allies practiced the transfer of Alliance Troops to the baltic sea and landed troops. Eh, again in case of a military conflict during maneuvers. These were 14 countries, 3,000 people were involved. 30 ships and 15 aircraft particularly distinguished themselves in germany, the publication Foreign Agent deutschevelli reports that berlin sent a proposal to nato to place on its territory the headquarters of the command of nato naval forces. The ifc exercises are aimed at combat coordination in the event of war with russia in the baltic region seas, and the development of deterrence also includes the development of the ability to attack. We are sending russia a clear signal of vigilance. Well, the western press is actively discussing the prospects of a war with russia. Moreover , it is discussed in such a pessimistic manner. Heres the daily mail, which studied the uks combat aircraft fleet and, one might say, was horrified because it calculated that britain has only 169 fighters, while russia has 1,500. Well, the delimail probably does justice. The conclusion is that with this numerical superiority, russian aviation, in which case the british, well, simply with the ball. Andrey, back to the twenty discussions, probably. Well, lets return to the language of diplomacy with all its complexities, as i said, we really went through it. At the end of last week , the g20 summit took place in the indian capital. It hasnt been renamed, no, not yet, which means its still in the indian capital, and we can say that the result of this summit is somewhat unexpected, because a joint statement was adopted. First day of work, not even the last one opinions differ. The western press believes that, in general, thats it. E. This speaks of the failure of the sambit, in general, almost the defeat of the west, e struggle, at least such a verbal one with russia of western politics, they say no, everything is fine. We showed russia there, as always , in its place. Lets see and try to understand who is more right. The final declaration of the g20 was agreed upon on the very first day of work; it talks about the recognition of different views and prices in ukraine; the bbc corporation laments that the declaration does not contain direct criticism of russia and all the wording is streamlined. And journalists are also indignant ; the document mentions the war in ukraine and not the war. The Business Insider newspaper considered it against ukraine. This is a capitulation to putin , afanet yellow times called this quote a blow to western countries, which have been trying all year to convince others to condemn the kremlins action. The declaration calls for a just and lasting peace in ukraine but does not commit. This requirement directly relates to the importance of the territorial integrity of ukraine, as demanded by western countries. Also not in her a statement was included in 2022, noting that the majority of members strongly condemned the war. But western leaders interpret the results of the summit as a diplomatic victory over russia, the british Prime Minister sunok said that he was pleased with the harsh language of the declaration, and the oneeyed german chancellor scholz, who was forced to transform himself after an unsuccessful fall while jogging, scholz considered that the declaration demonstrates the integrity of all countries, although without reference to ukraine , they spoke with enthusiasm about the results of the forums in white house advisor to the us president sullivan said that the declaration includes a set of consecutive paragraphs, and the situation in ukraine is a. Joe biden himself did not distinguish himself with eloquence; he once again publicly disgraced himself and, as the press writes, left the event early. I would like to thank Prime Minister modi and the crown prince of saudi Arabia Mohammed bin salam as sorry mohammed bin salam and the president s of funderalian the European Commission and since he did not speak today. Or he was just speaking, today i didnt notice whether he spoke or not, perhaps i will end this in kiev with the results of the twenty itself. Naturally, the ukrainian Foreign Ministry was dissatisfied and criticized the final declaration. They issued their own revised version , the Department Said that the g20 participants had nothing to be proud of, because the ukrainian delegation was not invited to the forum, just like the terrorist president zelensky , the political publication called this a missed opportunity to solicit new submissions. Bloomberg notes that this time ukraine was not in the spotlight. But here is a comment from our ministry of Foreign Affairs thanks to. Uh, such a consolidated position of Global Protection of its legitimate interests. E managed to prevent it. Eh, success in your attempt. The west will again ukrainize the entire agenda to the detriment of discussing the urgent problems of developing countries. So Andrey Nikolaevich is your assessment. Well, it depends on how you go, what we say i dont say. Its good that its a set. Yes, the last parameters, because when we see how biden speaks, you understand, there is only a discrepancy of a consistent nature, but here is the question. What is . Everyone here evaluates it in his own way, taking into account that for the west everyone is like that, this is solely a desire to show the isolation of russia, condemnation of russia there, and that all this is getting stronger, naturally. We need to tell them that something happened, but lavrov said the right thing at the g20. First of all. Its strange, globally its easy to not have your own interests. And in fact, even the conflict in ukraine itself , which the west portrays as something unimaginable for the global yuka. Sorry, well, this is some kind of , in general, in many ways a secondary story them. We need to develop and solve our own problems. Needed for this. We need russia, china and the fact that the master of bags there is trying to solve some of his internal complexes, you know. Why should other countries worry about this . Naturally, when you gather as a big seven, where are these masochistic lovers of bdsm and western well, for the sake of yes , people have come here to solve serious issues. There you understand, Industry Needs to be developed, someone needs to eat something. But these are the pens of the senile in the old ones, like biden, to which the words you cant name the person youre communicating with. Well, well also show you the fresh biden. Tell me, lets show you the fresh biden, it sounds somehow strange , but, nevertheless, yes koltsin nikolaevich and what do you think, somehow the global south, uh, is starting to live an independent life, and for us this glass is so half full, so halfway yes, i agree about the glass, because the global south, and in this case, it will play into the hands of the global world , that the global skirt is interested in reconciliation will one way or another push russia towards some positive steps. Eh, towards reconciliation. I dont know if its true or not. I read that Mohammed Bin Salman made some kind of statement. What about 510 years from now . Ah, in general, the middle east will explode at such a pace. Well, in general, the center of peace and all Development Paths will come from there, from this region. And there is not a word about the west at all, but we are generally the center of the world. Uh, everyone is already beginning to consider themselves the center of the world, but they did all this in what is truly the global south, including china and absolutely it is necessary for this war to end; they really need to develop and solve their problems. Yeah and therefore there will be a certain amount of pressure. Andrei nikolaevich says that the global south s reaction to the war in ukraine is well, soso, but they, of course, notice, but you are the one who says that they need the military conflict to end. Actually from here, my question is half complete for us. This is the whole story with the resolution, where ukraine was little noticed or , after all, the temporary perspective is half empty. So yegor kladovich. Well, look, this one actually ended in a victory for the west, in the sense that the west showed sound pragmatism, that is, they made concessions. In what sense could they, of course, flunk this declaration , stick their horns in and say declaration. As a result , it will not be accepted. Yes, because there are no correct words about ukraine. What would this lead to . This would lead to the realization of the fact that its strange globally, you would have strangely even reached 20 at the last summit, that with these you cant make a common mess of the g20 format that was conceived, as a format of interaction, developed, developing, they sit together and lie together. Eh, economic problems are primarily, so the ukrainian animator was not invited by india, but by economic problems. It doesnt work. What conclusion will the Global Christmas tree draw from this, the only more powerful one is that the only possible format is the conditionally brix format where they sit only in the global south and in the end the west will drive itself into this global isolation so that here what what will it look like. So the g20 format will be leveled out. Instead, much the decision within the framework of brix will gain more influence, and in which it will shrink to the seven. Well, in general , global gatherings where they came and chatted and left. No more than this, the west categorically allows it to keep its finger on the pulse of all the Big Decisions in the field of economics that we have over time, guys, a minute. Let maxim specifically talk about this themselves, then rather the glass for russia is 2 3 of the floor, because it could have been much worse, and initially, when it became known that president putin was not going, chairman blue rides indians. It is unlikely that the loot would have been received with enthusiasm; it would have seemed then that the indians, as organizers, would not and the rest would not be like that. Fight for wording, but more or less, and in the end it is quite acceptable for moscow to accept it. Why did this happen . Well, because the position of the global south has really changed in some ways over the past year, because then a year ago in indonesia, yes , most countries, and now it turns out that they have not been able to convince the majority of the same global there, the brazilian conditionally brazilian president or the crown prince saudi arabia after all. No, that is, clearly 10 western countries. This is their position, but ten others have a different position, and therefore this is the result. So we all take a break, in a few minutes we will return to the air and move on to the next novel. Kostomarova. The whole country of radonezh prayed after 6 months of severe coma illness and amputation of the olympic champion again. Amen its actually a miracle that im sitting here. Yes, probably today i really remember him, by the way. By the way, how he found and did not lose his beloved woman. She didnt leave hide, dont quietly, there has been a crisis in our relationship. 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We have a minute. Nikolai viktorovich didnt come up yet. I want to remind you, dear friends, that you and i are also returning to our practice of meeting outside the Television Studio on september 23. I invite you, pskov house of officers september 24th Window Center in Veliky Novgorod september 30, ufa City Cultural and leisure center. Here in october we have Nizhny Novgorod dzerzhinsk kaliningrad and st. Petersburg Andrey Norkin. Rf. There on this site you can find all the information that relates to the end, uh, the concerts have a different format. So now i promised a fresh baidan. Well, actually. Vanya will do this. That is, this is like a continuation, that is, of the story with the speech of the us president at the g20 summit and biden. To be honest, i was even worried at some point moment, but honestly, everything is in order. Lets mean after the g20 summit , biden. Together with his pancake , he flew to vietnam and there they signed a Strategic Partnership agreement with vietnam. Well, that is, its as if all old grievances are forgotten, but this is not the most interesting, the most interesting thing is the press conference that the us president called after this visit ended. It was visible there. I will now very carefully say that biden is not in the best shape. Well give you a few pieces lets show that it all started with the fact that when he came to this press conference, he greeted everyone with a phrase from the film. Good morning, vietnam is there, the radio host greeted the soldiers like this, the film from 1987 encouraged them. And it is in vietnam that biden. I suddenly decided to remember this film. Now in the evening its really interesting to travel around the world in 5 days. So one of my employees said, remember the famous song good morning vietnam, well good evening vietnam and Good Morning America could be say what it is . Well, it was a bad joke, but it happened that way, but then it was very difficult, biden confused day with night, biden. Said he was going to go to bed. Biden didnt understand who should take it, who was addressing him in the hall, he was talking to some of his mysterious staff. Overall it looks very tight. Im just following directions. Staff, who hasnt spoken yet . Im not talking to you. I will answer only 5 questions from the daily mail. This picture from the press conference is called shameless and amazing because which in theory, as dml writes. This biden tour was supposed to demonstrate that at 80, biden is still wow, but it didnt turn out very well at all. After he said it out loud. For some reason, i used the phrase. The third world began to mumble something several times during this press conference. Here he is. The very staff to whom he addressed, apparently his press secretary is the root. Pierre oduvan, she started the music and said that the press conference was over. At the conference we discussed stability, how to provide it to the third world countries. Oh, sorry third world strange Southern Hemisphere access to change. Thank you everyone , the press conference is over. Thank you the man is responsible for the Nuclear Suitcase of the soul, tearing apart the spectacle, of course, as by the way, here , uh, i read, and the mask, in my opinion, and he also talked there for a very long time about all the features of the mental president s of the United States and an interesting thing. He noted about the prompter. It seems to me that he just doesnt see the prompters yet. Well, you know, yes, yes, they talked about this many times, how it was all organized. They are transparent, as if they are not very visible. Well, just spectators, and the person who gives the speech. Remember, from time to time he is deceived all the time. Thats how he performed, when he was spinning just like that, maybe thats why he just doesnt see what s written there, so he slows down there. Well, in general, of course its true. Its a shame somewhere like this. The proposal should be considered as one legislative initiative. Here at the beginning of our topic and our friends in the union state in belarus, uh , the president ial decree came into force well, regulating the order, and obtaining citizenship. Well, partial. In a sense, it means, to put it briefly , you cannot get a belarusian passport. Now, being abroad. You are a citizen of belarus for some reason, business or not, you are abroad. You have a belarusian passport, which you need to change, again for some reason, or renew. Now this was possible before. As i understand it, this should be done at the consulate or embassy. Yes , secondary. We must definitely return to belarus and get a new passport. So those those who criticize the initiative shout, look , this is how belarusians crush their opposition to the end; those who like the initiative, they say, is a very correct tool for states to protect their interests. We need our own interests. We need to take it into account. In a little more detail, last week Alexander Lukashenko signed a decree prohibiting children abroad from issuing belarusian passports, that is, now belarusians living abroad, in order to renew or obtain a new passport, are required to come to belarus and apply to the passport office. Also diplomats will no longer issue powers of attorney, according to various estimates , the new measures may affect about two million belarusians living abroad, experts believe that the decree will hit the most hardest are escape and the opposition who left after 2020. If one of them returns to their homeland, they may get cut. Ok its all over now. You are homeless, thats it, dad signed a decree, now you cant change your passport at embassies and consulates abroad, and feeder zein mainhera is afraid of the initiative of the belarusian authorities. They got excited in the west. They said that the ban on the issuance of belarusian passports abroad violates the rights of 1,000 belarusians and called for a review of the decree to study the consequences of the new measure. They promised. And in brussels , since minsk allegedly neglects the rights of its citizens, the state department accused belarus of repression. The United States continues to consult closely with our european allies and the Belarusian Democratic forces led by svetlana tikhanovskaya, and minsk is struggling with ways to help belarusians abroad affected by this punitive decree. Who is active criticizes his country from abroad and other methods. In july , the updated law on citizenship came into force in belarus. Now the belarusian authorities can deprive people who have left the country of their passport if a Belarusian Court has accused them of extremist activity or causing grave harm to the interests of the state. Also , those belarusians who enlisted in the army, police or security agencies of a foreign state may lose citizenship. Well, of course, you understand why it seems important to us to discuss this initiative, because we have been having a debate for several months now, so very heated, that it is possible or not to use the institute. Thats just deprivation of citizenship, as some kind of punitive or educational measure. Here are the belarusians, Something Like this has already been formalized in the form of a law, vladimir viktorovich, how do you like it . Look what Alexander Grigorievich will achieve. Well, probably that some gentlemen or ladies will have to return to the republic and there, indeed, they may have problems with the law due to their political position question. If we try this on ourselves, how much do we need this . Are our prisons empty . Well, who do we want to lure out in this way . Eh, on the territory of the Russian Federation it is immediately offered to prison, this is an offer, this is an offer to people as it is, you understand . Its not that i support this proposal for people to decide. You either you are there then, go ahead, goodbye, or you still somehow consider yourself part of the country, the passport you carry, which means, somewhere in the depths of your wide trousers, well, we suggest people burn bridges, i understand correctly. I thought we were interested the idea of ​​burying these bridges in some way is by sound. Yes, vladimir viktorovich, come on. You will remember for now what you want in the eyes of a person in three words. Enough instead of taking the word, passing the word, saying, so to speak, the maximum position that adheres to voice. I think that citizenship should be deprived. It is necessary, but for treason to the motherland for the most terrible crime. Here is a conditionally skripal, who collaborated with british intelligence, should not only receive a prison term, but also be pardoned and deprived of citizenship, going to the uk that is, this is the maximum program now , as for lukashenkos decree. I absolutely agree with ivans interpretation this is a desire to encourage people, uh , to make up their minds and to create inconvenience for those who are fighting against the current government in belarus. But there are several thousand of them, and the inconvenience is compounded million. I rather we why did we take it to belarusian, for example, to understand that this is applicable in our experience. You told us that somehow we need to do something with the bad, runaway artists, singers, lets not name everyone by name. Here there is no way to do something with them. Yes, like this here, as they say , they shot at sparrows from a cannon, that is, people who committed a crime of such magnitude as treason to the motherland should be deprived of citizenship. Those who have gone somewhere. They should calmly exchange their passports at russian and foreign institutions. They didnt commit a crime. Uh, why should they carry some kind of reminder, this second belarusian uh, option means a Court Decision of a person who is accused abroad found guilty of extremist activities. Then he can be deprived of citizenship. There should be a list of very serious articles here, an example for us in the uk, please. Remember that the passport was first submitted to Great Britain as soon as its ruling regime in britain suspected something wrong, no Court Decision. There wasnt even a minister of the interior. I just wrote that you are no longer a citizen. They took all my passports. Goodbye. This is how it works back in america no, she worked in britain, what did she do . That is, i dont remember they said many times that in america, but i can have some other citizenship. And what now, if a person has two citizenships, then europeans can. This is the acquired citizenship of a person, like europeans. No, you asked, i answered. In the sense that i am clarifying the court, thats why we are frozen in a certain situation. Uh, amendments were made to the constitution and laws were passed stating that acquired citizenship can be deprived. Yes, but citizenship, which is by birthright , cannot be so. I believe that it is necessary to deprive traitors to the motherland who committed treason citizenship. It is necessary. But the fact that uh accepted respect, uh Alexander Grigorievich , this is what we should do. You dont need to know exactly when to apply this situation. Uh, what do we now consider, uh, high treason. If we are talking about these external irritants of ours, as in the plan, he says, the couplet artists, they committed treason, no, yes, well, what is treason, people are in arms against our country. If they were foreign, i dont remember if it was you or not, but one of our guests was sitting here. Also on the extreme patriotic the field said that the fact that they leave like this and criticize the motherland should be equated with treason and so on, so we are asking you again. Yes . E, of course, i am ready to bear responsibility for everything that is said in this program. You would just like to still limit it, which i say, im surprisingly balanced right. Thats today. How you approach well, they paid attention to you well, how not to Pay Attention to you. Can i have some container . Andrey vladimirovich, let me clarify how legal it is in terms of procedure and laws. We can do this as he suggested. If there is a law. No, why are we doing this, this is not an infringement of some basic rights of a citizen. Is it possible in our country, probably everything can be done with them in our country during a period of time when, probably, the legislation changes to suit the situation, and we will give an assessment of this. Uh, many years later, when the enemies are over, and we will look for internal enemies and apply to them. This is legislation. Therefore, i would postpone such restrictions, and even more so, well , it seems to me that, firstly, they give rise to a new legal consequences, for example, a person cannot obtain a passport. He applies or in europe abroad. That is, he says, i cant, due to circumstances , a disaster happened on my home territory. Um, i handed over the decree to the president and i cant go back there. Prison awaits me and in this case the institutions are legal institutions. Europe may well give him asylum. Well, that is, we, in principle, are planting and replanting from the budget of belarus from the budget to europe. Well, probably this is for the budget. This is not bad, but from a point of view. Ahh, what is the logic of losing people . Qualified people, and it was people with education, people with Language Skills who went there. Yes, that is, there are people who can carry something and something with this is a big loss for the russian. Im not the first, and not on this one. I take it with my tongue. Whoever you name something every time, here are the people with education, the people who left there. Such, well, if you understand, besides panin there are decent people, decent people, in my opinion, did not leave. So they understand, and this is a subjective perception according to the laws, as it was then, and the law must correspond to the rights, so that a person must be right. First. The main rule is the right to defense. It is fixed; a person must defend himself. If you amaze him in his rights, you amaze him in his citizenship. He must defend his citizenship somewhere, where he will defend it. If you understand, theres a child, lets say, look, hes teasing, uh, lets say, there s a guard dog there, i dont know. So he knows that the dog is sitting behind the fence. She cant do anything to him there. And so he begins to tease her. But the same situation is here people left, they feel like they are there. Well, panin doesnt i know, there, he craps himself, they say on his lawn there now more than once. Yes, they feel protected. They start teasing us. They start making faces there and saying some nasty things, some start collecting money for everyone. They understand that nothing will happen to them for this and neither do we, that we cannot somehow defend ourselves. Do you understand . This is a weak position. Why is this their weak position, and their weak, yes, and a weak position, that they cannot express themselves in any other way, you know, this is, you know, hopelessness, it seems, its not i agree, but at least a bark from behind the fence. Yes, but if a person, relatively speaking, believed in legal institutions , he would probably come and leave his system , his rights in court, but since trust in the judicial system is high, as we would like, then the human being, naturally, chooses a weak position. He says, i wont do anything better than fences. And you there, how do you want to sort it out . Well . Come on, we can give you another example, we will now give you an example from a country that we dont like, but under it is a union state and the union state. This is a ukrainian example, where there is already an initiative so far. If a person has gone abroad to ukraine and does not want to defend his homeland during a military conflict, then he needs to suspend his ukrainian citizenship. Let the authors of the idea decipher this idea. For example, i dont want these people to decide the future of our country when theyve already been here for a year and a half. No, they do not know the fears of our ukrainians. This is the first question. And i dont want them to receive social benefits and the right to pay a pension in the future. I for example, i think that this is a matter of fairness, so a termination mechanism should be developed. They are deprived precisely of the termination of ukrainian citizenship; this is real for those citizens who, after the war , will not return for a certain time , on the one hand. Of course, we are not ukraine, we always said that we are not ukraine on the other hand. Again again. Uh, its been a year since weve been saying that people who left their homeland instead through upper lars instead of going to defend it with these people. Somehow the state treats them well call it excessive to put it mildly, its excessively harsh, maybe the option is whatever you think, but this is actually the option that appeared with ukraine. Its not even worth considering, because well, why do we need to repeat all sorts of nasty things . Evil practices, which means you were talking about the state treason to the state. Lets try, you know, lets abstract ourselves from everything. Whats so nasty about this guy, i dont know what kind of political strategist they have. He says that these people have been outside the country for a year and a half out. In general, the problems of the country are beyond the problems of each of the citizens. And he says that i say i dont want these people to return home after some time. Here we began to resolve some of our own issues and develop my country. Well, in principle , there is logic in this, maybe any kind of logic, moreover, the most terrible crimes. You can also fit some kind of logic into it, for example, with good words, including the actions of the nazis against the jews, also there. Well, what could be distorted like that on this washing machine . All, this means that in the Russian Federation there is such a law, the basic law is called the constitution, here is the sixth article of the constitution. It says whether you may be deprived of citizenship of the Russian Federation, which means that a person may or may not have citizenship. As long as our constitution and the sixth article of the constitution are in effect , a person cannot be deprived of citizens , the point is, what can be done about it means, but this is a question of changes to the constitution, which will need to be put to a general vote, and so on and so forth. If people are like this they will decide, well, they dont think that it is necessary to discuss this ; there is nothing in the constitution about this. There is federal legislation, but okay, so the position you say is not there. It is written there. So we ask you. Do you think that this needs to be discussed, you dont try to you dont let me fail the layer, and in belarus, by the way, citizenship in belarus doesnt decide, they do it differently in belarus they say we wont give you a passport, but citizenship doesnt decide in in the case of recognition, wine, but in the experiment and in it seat damage issue. Im now telling the portal the situation and in the case of belarus and in the case of ukraine they have ideas, which idea is the same to create certain inconveniences. Which these people will return, respectively, and will perform the tasks that they need. Well, in the case of ukraine, they will go to war, in the case of belarus, we will punish them whoever needs to be, whoever needs to be, then well put uh, continue to work on my tv, will they achieve these initiatives and return here and there, peoples, of course not, because it was absolutely well said after such discriminatory measures are introduced. And this right will be called discriminatory measures for centuries. These people will receive asylum that they could not get before. Then we just need to formulate the question do we need to train or what, yes, and then do we need to achieve a return . Here, well, then lets look at how this is done after a pause. In the midst of her own wedding, the woman found out that her adopted daughter s motherinlaw approached her parents and said, you have adopted parents. the motherinlaw has no idea who the motherinlaw could have found out from the main secret of her life, i immediately took offense at her. Why did you do this . Did she grin . 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Last friday, fugitive tiktoker Danya Milokhin, known for singing the ukrainian anthem all over the internet and painting his nails and hair yellow and blue, reported that he allegedly returned to russia , according to the blogger, he left, he was in the heat of the moment, but its stupid to break ties. This means the quote the country and people deserve a second chance, which milokhin apparently gives us all banned from social networks, he posted a photograph allegedly from red square, and later in one of the moscow restaurants. The truth is that the blogger himself is not in the photo, but his brother is also a producer. Ilya told the press that milokhin was testing the waters in this way. For example , his return, because he wants to come to work, the rapper and agent alisher margenstern are doing the same testing of the waters. The other day, the musician released a video called black russian in the style of chanson, and before that, morgenstern published a video, where he says that he misses his homeland earlier. Now he complained that he regretted moving to the usa and admitted that he couldnt build a career there, honestly. My in russia is another potential returnee and on agent Ilya Prusikin last weekend , the founders of the Little Big Group told another who left and on agent Mikhail Schatz that he is experiencing the depression of an emigrant in a foreign land, and at the same time he talked about how easy and comfortable it is to live in his native country , of course, to live. Eh, home in the motherland is much nicer its more convenient there for you and your mother and, like, your city in which you grew up. Where can you come and, as it were, remember your childhood . Vladimir aleksandrovich, i came across two diametrically opposed positions. How to treat such recognizable people who want to return is the first position. Why did they give up to us . They left and the unpleasant people said , there was someone there and agents and so on, the position is this if they are now these return, then, looking at them, there are a lot of unrecognizable and completely unknown to us people who left through upper lars or after february 24, seeing that everything is fine with these. They will also slowly come back. And this is good for the country. How do you like these thoughts . Well, uh, after all, apparently im sitting on the wrong side, i should have sat there, we have laws of the Russian Federation, yes, there are bylaws and everything else, if you discredited the army, armed, armed with the power of the Russian Federation, you must answer in law. That is, you want to come back, please, you come back, we do the process. We just you see, no matter how you say it, our country is not a pioneer camp, when you can come and say to the counselor, sorry for the bullshit. I said, i wont be here again, this shouldnt happen. If you want to come back, please come back to the court. Maybe he can make a decision. If he expressed condemnation of the actions of, uh, the russian army this, in my opinion, is subordinate to the law, it could be a criminal case, but in these cases they did not say anything. Well, even if they didnt say anything, well, okay, guys, you want to come back. Lets try for six months. There there are teams. These are the kind of men you come there. You understand how people live here, can you imagine, if Danya Milokhin is a person, how he is, uh, im afraid, yes , he comes to russia and talks to him there. Forgive me , good people, and go there for six months. You just said that we are not a pioneer camp. Yes , but a country that lives by the law and the measures you yourself propose in the second part of your remark is in fact. Well, not yet, its not legal, it needs to be written down in the law. I think not. There are um, conditionally in the law. Yes yes conditionally there is criminal liability. Yes, its conditional to say, right . A suspended sentence is a suspended sentence. Believe me, when you come there all the time and see these guys who have the attitude, you know, if we speak from the position of those people who are fighting there, they will say, yes, why do we need them , right . We really dont need them, neither the melokhins nor the others there understand, but if the laws are uh, that is, if from the position of the people who are here and who say thank you to the guys who are fighting there, well, you can forgive me, but then buy blood, as was the great patriotic war, you know, i agree with volodya that it would be nice for these artists to express condemnations of both our country and the president. We have seen it all, forbidden visits to social networks. There, even just to look at those who defend their homeland, you know, ill give a simple example in china, now there is an actor who, somewhere in japan, was engraved against the backdrop of an unfriendly temple. He was a very famous and popular young man for his canserili. If possible, so to speak, everywhere, although he brought tearful repentance there. He was on his knees, he simply is not in public space. Nowhere are his songs filmed in films. If he sang something there, they are not in the rotation, he simply does not exist. You see, this is the answer. Very good very simple. There was such a position of the consul, and it still exists against our country. Yes, this is not our method, because we are with it ourselves. Well, because we ourselves must understand that they are trying to abolish the russian culture of the body. And were talking about specific characters who expressed disapproval of our motherland everything. It seems to me that this is enough and volodya is absolutely right when he said something about the president about the army and astronomy. Overall. Thats it, you and the agent who must suffer a certain punishment are some kind of mess here, because Foreign Agents are not criminals and formally. We have according to our law on foreign substances. They can continue their activities, but i, as a consumer , understand that this person exists on imported money . Heres the stairs. It seems to me that belarus has ukraine and russia absolutely different tasks. If belarus is trying , so to speak, to lure the opposition to itself and somehow deprive it of something and punish it, then we have the opposite situation, to lure tikhanovs. Yes, so lala, yes, we have the opposite situation. We need to filter out those who want to return to earn Tatyana Lazareva a bad word. Why is it good to have a good word for some some year and a half these people. It was the military forces who scolded russia and so on, and now they want to return and the same one, for example, Tatyana Lazareva and milokhin yes morningstern. They want to come back here in order to earn money, which is the most moronic thing in this situation. That is , it would be obvious to me. If we could figure out a way for them to come back. Let them be unwanted there. Yes, they were fellow citizens, but they did not have the opportunity to earn as much as they did before. This seems to me to be a lot easier to come up with a state like you. Well , now we have some kind of middle measures, that is, because yes, we seem to have laws and Everyone Wants the state this is to be done by the state. Guys, you yourself decide on the public one. Just, look, if i explain, if they come back here and continue to earn the same way they earned, they earn from likes and from concerts, that is, when people come, then a strange story turns out. That is, if we dont cancel them, people still, despite what they said abroad, still continue to appreciate them and go to their concerts. It turns out then what is the state talking about . How to celebrate if people go everything it still doesnt work out for me here. Yes, this is the group zveri who said something, and then there was a precedent, she went to the ne zone, sang a couple of songs and please, they have a concert in the debtor. That is, so you can eat the contender, we drove very normally. So, we do this, the instafemale is Walking Around with a bad script. Lets discuss. No, i think this is not normal, because this is not transparency. This is not a nono in the law. Who decided that it was Ekaterina Mizulina who should justify intus, instafemale and hoffman . Well, how is she and where are the brains . Cleaned it. Of course they apologized and so on decided to speak. That is, it turns out that this is a precedent and everyone else can also make a morning star. May come. Here is his blue sword in a good sense, a morning star. Lets legislative level look, we are now practicing our favorite activity. Lets come up with some kind of kara for those we dont like. Well , once again, those people who left have an important social mission. They are made to be hated if they wont be there, then Ekaterina Mizulina. Sultan khamzaev, a huge number of people will feel unnecessary in the Russian Federation, this needs to be thought about, including them, this is serious. Im at work. There is an employee who is late, who called the police once, and then got into a fight with the police and received 15 days, i am not firing him. Why is he my instability factor . Thanks to their employees, they are at least of good professional nature. Here is a creative nature, flying a little, they are needed for society. Please understand that you cannot sterilize. Or what, we need to transfer the lightning rod to Foreign Agents and nina agents of artists who are now abroad. Do we need to bring him back here or let him sit, as he sits , lightning rod in his dubai and he gets it and look. Just look at the experts, political scientists, economists who left russia and are now trying to criticize russia; every month they become more and more irrelevant and funnier, because you dont understand a damn thing about whats going on here. They are needed here by metro. Its as if i wont come now. I constantly go on the subway and people come up to me and say, volodya. Do you think they will come back . I say, well, you need them. They say, screw it, we dont need songs, let them ask us all. I always have a question at every end of the concert. How do you feel about those who left, do you think that they will return, but i really, honestly say that i think that they will all return. Suddenly they come back because what options do they have . No, theres no one. They communicate there with Intelligence Services of all kinds. Here they are for everyone. Here you go, there is a surname there. At first it seems that the issue needs to be resolved. Whether they need it or not, and then its nikolai viktorovich. Wait, lets wait a few minutes in the next hour. Now lets take a commercial break and then continue. I think the terrorism case should be opened by the federal security services. Do you have anything to report about the funds you are looking for in the wrong place . Well, did the detective catch a stupor . Lets go over the versions again. 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We didnt actually interrupt nikolayevich, we didnt even give him the opportunity to get some sleep. Now heres the plot, lets see, its a direct continuation of the topic and then your comment. Honored artist of the country ekaterina guseva, who regularly visits donbass with concerts, has recently spoken about the stars of the domestic show business who have left, who throw mud at russia abroad. Advised to admit mistakes and return to their homeland. Actor yuri baturin has a similar opinion, he believes that everyone has a chance to return home, and to atone for guilt, you can do something useful for the country for the rehabilitation of cultural figures who have left, director Konstantin Bogomolov also spoke out if people want ready. Aand, if people realized that they were mistaken . Otherwise, we need to give them the opportunity to confidently give them the opportunity to return and work in their country for the benefit of their country and their viewers, some, like actor marat basharov, are ready. Understand and forgive poor artists only if they truly repent. Basharov said last year that people like khamatova will be able to one day return to russia and the motherland as a mother to accept a repentant child. Actor soslan fidarov said that those who have gone to see the artists can be forgiven if they, quote , kneel down and ask for forgiveness from the russian people, and the wider russian actress tatyana vasilievna also reasoned in her soul and i think that they will not return. The people wont accept them, they wont let them in, i ll tell you about our great people. We are very loving people know how to forgive. We have a religion. Such a distance is given on one cheek, and more radical ideas are heard in the state duma to match the other. Last year it was proposed to send repentant artists to a special operation zone. But such work on correcting mistakes was supported. Not all directors yuri kara believe that children or cultures cannot be forcibly driven to the front. Its even somewhat dangerous. Well, except a bullet in the back, expect nothing from traitors. So nikolaevich do you see how many different options there are . Yes, to be honest, basically opinion is one thing and i absolutely agree with him, russia is merciful. Lets just decipher it, because i talked a lot today. And what does this mean here for a person to have the status of a foreigner, but specifically this is not criminal, it does not come. He can come, no one is holding him, but with this status there are certain restrictions. Here you go, keep coming. Uh, criminal cases. If there are, they are not initiated based on the fact of the return of a person to russia, but on the fact that some kind of violation of the right has been committed, these criminal cases have already been initiated and the person who wants return. He knows that this is a criminal case. There is an investigation coming. Maybe a trial, maybe a verdict, maybe nothing, but we are talking about tens of thousands of our fellow citizens who are not artists, writers or poets. Let them come back too. They shouldnt at all. Some kind of additional burden, like sorry, good people, if were not talking about an artist, but about a tractor driver, who suddenly is the only tractor driver who escaped from russia, the only tractor driver gives the team workers who he created inconveniences, and before he doesnt need to apologize to him. Repentance to all the people. But he is a peoples artist, he must repent in front of the people. And here the most important thing is to send him to the zone. Of course, no one can be sent there by force. But if you want todays russia so that people will truly forgive you and accept you as one of their own, you must go there. You dont have to go. But then you may have concerts, you may not have songs on the radio. And why . But because the state is the regulator that is put forward, this is such a forbidden profession for those we dont have anyone who turns out to be against russia. You see, thats not the point. I agree with you. It is absolutely certain that some mechanism needs to be developed. I agree with vasilyeva because she says that a russian is a russian soul. She will accept anyone, because if you repent, if you have tears in your eyes , they will believe you and but the best decision is to go to the bastard. And sorry, ill interrupt, but were talking about adults. What does it mean, sorry, i was wrong. This is not a pioneer. The camp, as we said, is adults. They substantiated their opinion in all prohibited social networks. No. If there is no criminal case, it is very difficult. But there is, but there is some kind of moral value , of course, our parents raised us, and with the help of the church, with the help of the pioneer organization, we were raised, but in different historical periods, normal, normal , absolutely still sometimes almost the same age as you, especially the pioneer organization. Yes, the church is a little no to me at first. Yes, well, thats probably how it is for you. Yes, look, but what will it look like . Heres normal ill try look at it through the eyes of our ordinary tv viewer. Here was some artist who, when something incomprehensible began, slobbered abroad on a criminal case, did not tell himself, but he was with them. He left. Then he returned and said, sorry, maybe he even said this word five times. And here he is again on all platforms making money, going out to people to sing, is there something in this. I dont know how to say callousness. I would be doing some kind of show off or something, i dont know. Therefore, to be honest, again through the eyes of a tv viewer, tomatoes should be an important thing for you about confusion. Well, there really is a lot of confusion, because even when the shooters discuss this topic , we bring relaxants under it, in general, everyone starts with those who have committed specific criminal cases, ending with someone saying something, and finally. Those who were generally silent. Nothing, they just left. These are completely different categories and should have completely different actions. You because if a person has broken the law, everything is clear here, as for those who have not broken the law, there is no need to invent anything here legal mechanisms. There is a question of moral and ethical assessments of people, and accordingly they apologize. Well, lets say some people apologized and then people believed him or not. If he does, including, wait, including whether they will go to his concert or not, whether they will watch a tv series with him or not, because there is just that. It will be immediately clear what they want. If someone believed and went to this concert, and then those who didnt believe it felt like they came to this concept and all sorts of bad things began to happen. Here i am again i will say, the thing that i said, at the very beginning, what kind of state are we and what kind of state should we at least live in, if a legal modern state is one, if i can , a state that wants to replace morality with law. Yes, our subjective assessments can replace the law. We want to become ukraine, but thats something else. I hope the moral. And as you say, morality can replace the law. And that laws should or could be immoral . But they can still be objective. And although not all laws can be good, laws can be objective, and morality is always a subjective assessment. If a person has not violated, it will end in no way. Then he cannot contradict. Well, okay, we can, of course, tell fairy tales that the laws there have left all the laws over morality. Everyone has their own morals. We even all have different attitudes towards this or that law. For example, you need to ensure that you are directly afraid. Listen to the fact that there is a law and it doesnt wear a seat belt. He doesnt like it like this. Here it is for him. Is the law morally right or wrong . Hes a fool. And this is yours. Well, as you remember, i drove without a seat belt all my life, then i got fines. Do you understand the difference . You understand the difference. In this example, that is, different people have different attitudes towards the law. You say hes a fool. I agree with you, but he is not considered a fool. That is, from his point of view. The law does not correspond to the morality of its morality; morality is objective. These are completely different things. And the last thing you can say is that in general now, it is more important for the state to conquer or obtain the history of the transfiguration of people. Oh, god. Bravo is true. The transformation is the transformation of people in the church, of course, the organization. Wait today time program. Give it all there, or in one right at the very beginning, when they describe this situation with the word dirt, this was said, what do you mean that yes, there are just different ones. Parts of those who left and those who do not fall under the law and did not violate it, but behave strangely, to put it mildly, for me this is dirt. But there is a third part this is a huge number of my friends who left and have already returned, by the way, and, by the way, no absolutely influencers, such as milokhin ambassadors, to look at them are not incredible, examples of transformation and there is some kind of immorality there, to start returning the country back. They are already doing this. And it seems to me that it is more important to work with them and not flirt with them. Who doesnt know, they need to return, that is, not everyone returned. Someone needs to be convinced that mortgages are a reprieve from mobilization for it people. Eh, that Creative Class that left, just out of fear, im saying goodbye to everything without mortgage benefits, and those who need to return, its necessary for them preferential mortgages, why not select the entire Creative Class, for example, the year of animals. What if im not creative . Yes, yes, yes, lets leave reactively. Now lets formulate this question somehow and take a short break for the final part of our program. The man shaved his beloved, brazenly chained her to the bed for a month , mocked her, and then cut off her hand. He took a large kitchen knife and took a hammer. This was witnessed by the couples fiveyearold son, dad. Why did you cut off the numbers hand . 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Im a boy you know, i think, so those who left without saying anything, without doing anything, without harming the motherland in any way, of course, can go wherever they want and return at any time, but personally, i dont really believe in the repentance of these artists who bring confession before the wedding in the temple, and then a few minutes after the wedding they lie down in the hearse, for example, well, im an example, they are the same adults, they have their own opinion, so they can express it. In any case, there is space. I wont. I understand, although these are just uh, citizens are not leaving. They didnt leave well, Vladimir Alexandrovich no. I also think that people are adults. If you left, then you left, we have a lot of our own problems, for example. Lets take care of music schools, of which we have a lot and which need to be repaired, restored, but not liquidated. So nikolai viktorovich of course , we need to return people, firstly, because russia is merciful, and secondly, because these are, after all, engineers with a human soul. But those who committed the crime owe it to them answer. Yes . So, leisya, we have time. We can tell you a little longer, which one is not. Believe me. And i think that denmark needs some measures prohibiting advisory measures, and preferential mortgages or some convenient conditions for people in the creative industry. But after all, in our country, it may not be very comfortable to develop, lets call it that. Well, i think that it shouldnt be like a barker or some kind of vulgar advertising. So many people go back and return to their families, and mothers dont need any there is no need for special conditions or discrimination either. Just dont bother people. If they want, they will take everything and return it. I am sometimes confused by the wording when we discuss all this about returning. For example, people who will return say, but these artists who left should, as a edification and punishment, go to the zone. In general, the idea of ​​​​visiting ones zone is good, but when they say it for edification or punishment, and we have those heroes who are now there in the trenches, every day. Are they being punished, do they need to be taught something . Lets still choose formulations i have everything well, you probably agree with me that the vast majority of jokes about returning are dedicated to the husbands return from a business trip. This is not exactly our topic for today. Heres our conversation today. I think uh is more suitable. Eh, a slightly modified story. Mom returns home after a two week vacation. There is a sanatorium there and asks his son, and dad was very sad while i was away. 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