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Our own special heliocentric lowearth orbit tonight, the Clinton Campaign seeks to reach hyperspeed and we explore an alternate universe. But first, Donald Trumps super nova of suspense. The republican nominee walked off the debate stage last night having created one megadplak tick problem for himself, when he refused to say he would accept the results of the president ial election. Today at a rally in gardelaware ohio, here is how he tried to clean up his selfmade mess. I would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the United States that i will totally accept the results of this great and historic president ial election if i win. Of course, i would accept a clear election result, but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. So, mark, with his efforts today, do you believe that donald trump has put this matter behind him effectively, or not . He compounded one unforced error with another. This story will live on now, i think, in the absence of there are no more debates, i dont expect any other big news to occur, in case theres some major wikileaks disclosure or thin something, hes created a secondday problem saying something thats almost as offensive to people. Under like seven layers of rhetoric, hes got a point. But its under seven layers of rhetoric. And the way he has talked about this as offended people across the country and he only compounded his problem today. The reality is that, a, we do not have a problem, a widespread problem of voter fraud in this country. Theres no evidence of it, it does not exist. The other thing is that we have, in many states, we have mandatory recount laws. If the vote is really close, theres a mandatory recount. So you dont need to avail yourself of those rights. A, first, its not a problem. The second thing is its handled if its super close. We have recounts and examinations and thats what happened in 2000 in florida. I dont understand why if you wanted to make the second point, which is to say, well, of course, i want to make sure everythings legit here, why he needed to say the first thing. The first thing is, the sound bite that will play forever,ly accept the result if i win, which is if you said in some ways worse than what he said the night before. He took a solid debate performance and undermined it by this. I watched a lot of coverage last night and today. Its all anybodys talk about and all anybodys going to talk about into tomorrow. Could the story line change tomorrow . Maybe. But this will linger in history and linger in the news cycle. Yes. To be clear, theres a reason why its lingering. Theres a reason why people are focused on it. Republicans, elected republicans currently in office, former republicans, the former chair of the Republican Party who said it was disqualifying last night on television, it is something that no Major Party Nominee has ever said or done before. Which is to suggest that they would not abide by the peaceful transfer of power. Its a huge anborgation of enormou norms. Lots of americans will care about this. The people who really care about it, the people who drive the coverage and chatter about it for days on end. No doubt about that. I know youre saying is they care more about it, but there are lots of normal americans to reinforce the plan. Lots of normal americans were upset about this when he said it. All right. Democrats have no intention of letting this issue go. Last night, after debate, Hillary Clinton paid her press corps a visit on the airplane, and deemed Donald Trumps remarks horrifying. Today some of trumps top surrogate twisted the knife a little deeper out on the campaign trail. If you question, if you assert that a democratic election is fixed, you are attacking the very essence of the notion whether we have a democratic system. After a campaign where he has insulted everybody else and now hes going to insult the very central premise of our democratic process. When you try to sew the seeds of doubt in peoples minds about the legitimacy of our elections, that undermines our democracy. Then youre doing the work of our adversaries for them. Because our democracy depends on people knowing that their vote matters. There are plenty of republicans who also are critical of what trump said last night, including senator john mccain, who once faced a decision about whether to challenge the results of a president ial election, when he was on the losing side. So, john, before the debate last night, we agreed that trumps chances were somewhere between slim and none. Does the prospect of a hail mary come back now after what hed said last night become even more remote . Lets put it this way. Last night his chances of a comeback were between slim and none and now slim is packing his bags. This is, again, there are many days there are still 2 1skp1 weeks before election day, and i dont rule out the possibility of some cataclysmic thing happening. In the absence of that, i think this thing is cooked. And this was his last best chance last night and hes now spent one full day and hes going to spend more days now, again, justifily, answering criticism for this crazy thing he said last the night. Its answering criticism. Its keeping him from having anything positive going on in at least two news cycles. And its keeping him from arguing that he actually won the debate. Because he lost the debate on one single remark. I think he probably would have been judged of having lost it narrowly, away, or somewhat. But the reality is that the polling data now has gotten worse and i think it will get worse in the wake of this debate, because hell have two days of bad coverage. Hes got less time now. Hes got no other big events. And the other thing is, the perception is now amongst a lot of republicans, more than ever, is its done. To win the election, he needed to gain some new votes. The thing he said last night did not gain him a single vote and almost certainly lost him some votes, because there are some of the people that he needed to tract who looked at that and said, i dont want that as my president. And now the split in the Republican Party is even wider, because you have downballot republicans who are going to say, youre calling into question if i win, my electoral system is now maybe rigged. I dont want any part of that. And when donald trump and their inner circle are angry at the press, angry at the republicans who criticized him, they dont perform well. Theyre like, this is a 90minute debate. Why is everyone seizing on one thing. Just point to those three democrats we just saw. We often talk about why Hillary Clinton has an advantage. She has these big super surrogates that have big megafunds. They think they have the boot on Donald Trumps throat and they are pressing down hard. They thought the election was over before the debate and trying end to it de facto right now. Exactly right. How is the conservative media reacting to all of this . Their reaction has been mixed. On the one hand, Rush Limbaugh and wall street journal editor defended trump, saying that the Mainstream Media is overreacting to his comment. Others wrote that trump was, quote, headed towards his best debate of the campaign, until those few seconds. Radio host laura ingraham, whos been a steadfast defender of trump tweeted, quote, he should have said he would accept the results of election. Theres no other option until were in a recount again, end quote. And all day, there were conservative voices on fox news calling the whole thing at best a distraction. Heres how karl rove summed it up on fox friends. He could have said, of course, ill accept the results of the election once theyre certified and validated. But he thinks the whole things rigged. This wipes out everything he said last night on trade and immigration and on the Clinton Foundation, because this is the headline. So over on the other side of the ideological chasm, progressive pundits in much of the Mainstream Media hailed the clintons performance as nearly flawless, ezra klein wrote that his performance basically put the finishing touch on the most effective series of debate performances in modern political history. So mark, just for the sake of argument, lets pretend we live in an alternative, parallel universe, where donald trump didnt call into the postelection peaceful transfer of power, what would the verdict today be in that circumstance on last nights debate . I think people would have had three main takeaways. One, Hillary Clinton is a masterful debater, masterful at preparing, and had found her voice last night with some emotion and poignancy, as much as she ever has on the national stage. And if trump had performed that well in the first debate and improved into the second and third from that base line, things might have been different. And the last thing is that he doesnt prepare. Even by the third debate. He clearly was nowhere as near as prepared as she was. And when Chris Wallace asked about substance, he was dancing. In the first 30 minutes to have the debate, where trump seemed like he was almost on a tranquilizer, better than hes ever been, but in the back hour, the same thing happened to him thats happened to him in all three of the debates. She not only prepared on policy, but she psychologically prepared a strategy of getting under his skin. And every time she would Say Something like last night, when he said he choked when he we went to mexico. He demeanor changed. The thing where he called her a nasty woman. He said, youre a puppet, youre a puppet. She brought out all of the things she wanted to do, which is to bring out his temperament. And by him baiting that way, i think he lost the debate even without the most egregious in a parallel universe, no access Hollywood Tape or women coming into these debates, a big part of the story would have been Hillary Clintons evasions. Skillful. Chris wallace tried to pin her down. Once were living in that parallel universe, i want to take away wikileaks. Were going to break down some of the other interesting moments from last nights debate after these words from our sponsors. Hey, hey, hey, there are no bad suggestions here. No matter how lame they are. Well said, ann. Ive always admired how you just say whats in your head, without thinking. Very brave. Good point ted. Youre living proof that looks arent everything. Thank you. Welcome. So, fedex helped simplify our ecommerce business and this is not a passive aggressive environment. I just wanted to say, you guys are doing a great job. Whats that supposed to mean . Fedex. Helping Small Business simplify ecommerce. Do you make the same commitment that you absolutely sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election . I will look at it at the time. Im not looking at anything now. Ill look at it at the time. One of the prides of this country is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hardfought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign, that the loser concedes to the winner. Y are you saying that youre not prepared now to follow that principle . What im saying is that ill tell you at the time. Ill keep you in suspense. That is the big moment in last nights debate that everybodys talking about and will for years. But there were other moments that should get their due. For instance, there were times when donald trump showed a rare calmness, exposure, and policyfocused presence, that offered a stark contrast to his more typical, offmessage remarks throughout the evening. We need a Supreme Court that, in my opinion, is going to uphold the second amendment, and all amendments, but the second amendment. The justices that imoing to appoint will be prolife. They will have a conservative bent. They will be protecting the second amendment. They are great scholars, in all cases. And theyre people of tremendous respect. They will interpret the constitution the way the founders wanted it interpreted. Its all about the constitution. The d. C. Versus heller decision was very strongly and she was extremely angry about it. I watched. I mean, she was very, very angry when upheld. And Justice Scalia was so involved. Zp and it was a wellcrafted decision. Im not saying if he had done that for 270 minutes over the three debates he would have won, but it would have a much different set of contests, i thi think. Youre right. If he would have tried to do that i was surprised he cited a case, that he cited heller. He had no depth of actually understanding, if you asked him to explain, what does heller say, im not sure he would have known. But just tonally, its a very different world than what we live. And the exact tone many said going into the first debate that shuler hell adopt. And the Clinton Campaign tried to get him to adopt. Lets actually look at an example of that right now. Hillary clinton, as the New York Times pointed out in a story today, was a little out of character last night, as she tried some trumpian maneuvers on the debate stage, interrupting, mocking, and needling her opponent repeatedly. We had a meeting with the mexican president. Didnt even raise it. He choked from everything i see has no respect for this person. Well, thats because hed rather have a puppet as president. This is a person who has been very cavalier, even casual about the use of nuclear weapons. Ten people who have had that awesome responsibility have come out and in an unprecedented way said they would not trust donald trump with the Nuclear Codes or to have his finger on the nuclear button. Theres only one of us on this stage whos actually shipped jobs to mexico, because thats donald. So he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is, but he has given jobs to chinese steel workers. He was borrowing 14 million from his father to start his businesses. And id be happy to compare what we do with the trump foundation, which took money from other people and bought a 6foot portrait of donald. I mean, who does that . In my apartment today, on a very Beautiful Hotel down the street, nobody as made with chinese steel. He didnt get an emmy for his tv Program Three years in a row, and he start ed tweeting that te emmys were rigged. Youre whining before the game is even finished. It just shows, youre not up to doing the job. Just like we went after bin laden, while you were doing celebrity apprentice. He was criticizing president reagan, social security, payroll, contribution there go up, as will donalds, assuming that he cant figure out how to get out of it. But what we want to do is replenish such a nasty woman. And there it was. Right there. The barb fest. There were a lot of those barbs. Some trump responded to, some he did not, but that last one, in a sort of crystalized moments, thats the kind of thing she did for three debates, but that is it, in a nutshell. I praise Hillary Clintons debate prep team, to feed her things that shein her heart, her gut would feel criticism of obama with trump with prewritten lines that she was comfortable delivering in her own voice, in her tone attitude. And almost last night, with a sense of almost joy. She was enjoying herself doing that. She prepared hard and they gave her a lot of good options and she pickeded the right ones clearly. And clinton also sidestepped some issues from moderator Chris Wallace, and did it in a way that a lot of people have noticed. Weve learned that from wikileaks, you said this, i want to quote, my dream is a hemispheric Common Market with open trade and open borders. Well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, i was talking about energy. An electric grid, an Energy System that crosses borders. I actually think the most important question of this evening, chris, is finally, will donald trump admit and condemn that the russians are doing this . Why isnt what happened and what went on between you and the Clinton Foundation, why isnt it what mr. Trump calls pay to play. Everything i did as secretary of state was in furtherance of our countrys interests and our values. The state department has said that. I think thats been proven. But i am happy in fact, i am thrilled to talk about the Clinton Foundation, because it is a worldrenowned charity. The Clinton Foundation made it possible for 11 Million People around the world with hiv aids to afford treatment. And thats about half of all the people in the world who are getting treatment. In partnership with the american Secretary Health association, we have made environments in schools healthier for secretary clinton, respectfully, this is an open discussion well, it is an open discussion and the specific question went to pay for play, do you want to look, but there is no evidence i think its been very there is a lot of evidence its been very well studied about the very good work mr. Trump so that was not her at her most evasive, but if she did not enter this debate on a roll, i think people would have focused on, she was pretty evasive there, but handled it much better than some of the other tougher topics shes had. And think about the contrast with her and trump. I agree she is evasive. But this is what we talk about when we talk about someone doing well in a debate. Pivoting is what youre supposed to do, quick answer, get out, dont seem defensive, and get on the attack again. Another way in which her preparation helped her and did not hurter. Another reason why republicans are frustrated. Up next, its a schlapp attack. Well talk to the American Conservative Unions matt schlapp after this. Something new has arrived. Uniquely designed for the driven. Introducing the firstever infiniti qx30 crossover. Visit your local infiniti retailer today. Infiniti. Empower the drive. Youre a smart saver. You find ways to stretch your dollar. 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Is American Conservative Union chair, matt schlapp, whos also a big donald trump supporter. Although, well ask him whether he still is after last night. So, matt, theres a big split in the Republican Party right now, over what donald trump did last night, unprecedentedly saying he wasnt sure if he would uphold or accept the election results. Where do you stand with those conservatives who are hitting him hard today or with those conservatives who are making excuses for him . I dont know. Maybe somewhere in the middle. You know, i wouldnt have answered the question that way, john. And, you know, i think i would like to see these two get to a point one of thems going to get elected in 19 days. And i would like to see these two to be able to do something simple like shake hands on the stage. I think it was ridiculous that the Clinton Administration or the Clinton Campaign, you know, negotiated that they didnt have to shake each others hand. If you dont even have enough respect to look each other in the eye and shake each others hand, were in a pretty bad place. And we know the country is as well. And on election day, im confident if donald trump does not win, that he will hey, matt, matt, let me ask you this directly, what was wrong with his answer . I think the only thing that was wrong with the answer is that it overshadowed what i thought was a really good debate performance. What was wrong with that particular answer. You said you wouldnt have done it that way. What were the negative implications or costs of him answering that way . I think that the negative i think its bad i just think it looks more magnanimous to say, look, it to beat my opponents brains in, but if she wins, im going to support that. And i think it and so i think that makes him look like the better man. I can understand, with everything weve learned on wikileaks and the way the clintons roll, that hes frustrated. And he i thought the answer that made that the clearest is when he said, you shouldnt even be able to run because of all the legal problems were all reading about, and brought up the example of the fourstar general. So theres a certain degree of frustration for those of us that are not clinton fans, that she has seemed to find a way out of every one of these legal concerns shes gotten in, when othersn similar positions have not. Att, you agree that america is an exemplar of democracy for people around the world, right . Absolutely. You dont have any lack of faith in our ability to conduct a free and Fair Election . I think we have the best elections on the globe. Dont you think that all the ways trump is talking about this, from the things he said last night to the way shes tryi hes trying to fix it today, that hes skeptical of that. That he has doubts about integrity of the american elections. Is that something a president ial nominee should be expressing implicitly . It doesnt look like this race is a one or twopoint race, but there are polls that say it is. And lets say this race is tight at the end. As you all know, subjectivity does come into play. I spent a month in florida during the recount and bunch of al gore democrats do the same, because we know it often comes down to a room where someone has to make a decision if a hanging chad results in a vote for one person or another person. All Election Night into the Early Morning the next day, and after several recounts and several lawsuits, all of a sudden they didnt win the race. There is subjectivity to close races. Matt, weve got less than a minute. Youre probably seeing a lot of the same private republican polling data that we are, that shows donald trump standing in some of the key battleground states that media leaks dont think hes going to win . I think the states that will tighten that he has to win. I think he has to get that electoral vote in maine. I think he has to win new hampshire. Obviously, virginia doesnt look like it improves, you have to get to michigan or wisconsin. Hes got to win nevada and hes got to win iowa. And i think several of those states i just walked through are states that will tight, up dramatically over the next two weeks. I think the demographics look good for him. And i think, i agree with that Investor Business Daily poll that shows about a twopoint race for hillary. That was the closest we know. And i think these polls are tighter than a lot of these indicate. All right, matt. Come back again soon. Well be right back with union chief Randi Weingarten after this quick break. war drums beating fight heartburn fast. With tums chewy delights. The mouthwatering soft chew that goes to work in seconds to conquer heartburn fast. Tum tum tum tum. Chewy delights. Only from tums. Afoot and lighthearted i take to the open road. Healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. The east and the west are mine. The north and the south are mine. All seems beautiful to me. Welcome back. With us now, the president of the American Federation of teachers, a big Hillary Clinton supporter, Randi Weingarten. Thank you for joining us. Its always great to be with you, even viually. How would you write Hillary Clintons chances of being elected to president in november . Well, with you know, im one of these people who its not over until its over. But, you know, i think, i think she has a pretty good chance now. And, you know, im not you know, you look at the different upshot and nate silver and you see all the chances, and how the arc has changed, but i think whats happening is her trajectory is going higher and higher, with a greater and greater percentage of showing that shes going to win. And donald trump trajectory is in the opposite direction. And so, normally, at this point, things actually start showing which way the electorate is going. And i think people are confident in her competence. So youre seeing not just the people who would ordinarily support a democrat, but youre seeing more and more people saying, when they look at these two candidates, theres only one of them that actually has the judgment, the temperament, even if you disagree with some of their positions. Randi, one of the things the Clinton Campaign has made clear for a long time now is that the key to her winning this race would be to disqualify donald trump. And with his help, they have done a pretty good job of that, or at least making it pretty toxic. As we turn this corner into the home stretch, what does Hillary Clinton need to do now as she prepares, perhaps, to get ready to govern . Should she continue to just basically trash trump or should she start doing Something Else . So i, look, i think we have a november 9th problem. And im a big believer that you lean towards peoples aspirations, not peoples fears. And i think what she tried to do last night, when she had the time to talk and to really debate, was she actually lifted up aspirations. She talked about what her plans are Going Forward, not how to and she did more of that than spar with donald trump. Now,onald trump, on debate stage, is so reckless, its hard to ignore a lot of the things that he says. But i think that he, himself, disqualified himself so much yesterday that her path right now is to connect to peoples aspirations, like jfk did, like fdr did, like reagan did, and to show, as she said in her closing, that regardless of whether you vote for her or not, her responsibility is to be the president for everyone. And to lift everyone and to actually make those words stronger together means something to people. Randi, you think about your friends and your family. Of the people youre closest to, whos someone who supports donald trump and whats your understanding of why they support donald trump . So, you know, there are a couple of people i know who support donald trump. And their view is that washington is broken and you need somebody to shake this whole thing up. Its like the people who say, i need to change that house, so im just going to burn it all down. Its a level of frustration that suggests that no rationale thinking would pierce it. Its a level of anger that is really connected to a frustration about what has happened in washington. And i think that thats it gets rooted to the point that whats scary about this is that when you see donald trump, basically, not distinguishing between fact and fiction and living in his own reality of life or whatever it is randi, i basically, supporters believe him. I dont want to put words in your mouth, but are you saying that the 40 million or so people who will vote for donald trump are all irrational . No, im not saying that. Im saying that there is a sense of loss that and that is emotionally moving people to feeling like he is going to be the savior. And thats very scary. But it does come underlying it im actually saying, underlying it is a sense of loss of their lives. So im very sympathetic to that. Thats what the Labor Movement has fought for all our life. Its a sense that they that people felt like their lives should be better Going Forward and theyre not. Randi, theres a lot of people on the left in the democratic party, particularly brrnds supporters, who have been reading some of the things that have come out the wikileaks emails that feel like all of their suspicion s about Hillary Clinton have been borne out by those emails. That shes different in private than she is in public, that shes a phony, basically. Do you have any sympathy with that view, with the progressive wing of your party thats frustrated with what theyve seen in the wikileaks emails, in that way . Theres two things about the wikileaks emails and i want to separate them. One is the watergatetype interference in elections this time done by a foreign government. So lets put that aside. But that is a problem in and of itself. I think what youre seeing here is, you know, people are embarrassed. But this is what ends up happening in elections. Its what ends up happening in organizations. There was a really heated debate between bernie and hillary. And you see a lot of, you know, heated language. Even, there was one from many where i called somebody sanctimonious. And in retrospect, you wonder why you would do that. But you see that kind of you see that in campaigns. The real issue is, i think, what we did at the plamp. Which was after all all of these leaks, post date all of these leaks, and what we try to do together, hillarys people and bernies paem to create the most progressive platform the dems have ever had. And the accountability is what she said at the convention, which is when she looked at the bernie people and said, look, we did this platform together, we ran, ultimately, together in the last month or so, and lets actually, lets actually implement this. Lets actually do this. And i think that a lot of us on the progressive camp or the Progressive Side are going to have to try and make sure that we get to rewrite the rules of the economy, which is what most of us are talking about. And what the big difference was between where bernie initially was and where hillary initially was. Randi weingarten, thank you very much. Going to hold a bipartisan strategy session right here, right next. If youre listening to us in washington, d. C. , you can listen to this program on the radio every day at bloomberg 99. 1 f. M. Well be right back. Im not a customer, but im calling about that credit scorecard. to dog give it. Sure its free for everyone. Oh well thats nice and checking your score wont hurt your credit. Oh to dog im so proud of you. Well thank you. Get your free credit scorecard at discover. Com. Even if youre not a customer. And so when i saw that, that was completely disqualifying. Im a republican, but this election is so much bigger than party. My son max cant live in trump world. So im crossing party lines and voting for hillary. I dont always agree with her, but shes reasonable. And shes smart. She can work with people to solve problems. I want to be able to tell my kids that i did the right thing when it really mattered. Im Hillary Clinton and i approve this message. For over 100 years like kraft has,natural cheese you learn a lot about how people cook. I wish i had like four different mexican cheeses but in one super melty cheese. It does exist you still have two cheese wishes left. You might have heard that last week in new hampshire, i gave a speech. And let me just say that since then, my office is has been flooded with thousands of letters and emails from folks all across the country. Speaking out for the values of decency and respect that we all hold the dear. Men of all backgrounds and walks of life agreeing that decent men do not demean women. And we shouldnt tolerate this behavior from any man, let alone a man who wants to be the president. That was first Lady Michelle obama, criticizing donald trump at a rally for Hillary Clinton in phoenix, arizona, not that long ago. The first lady was one of several powerhouse democratic surrogates out on the trail today, hammering donald trump. With us from the city of brotherly love, that would be philadelphia, is republican strategist, kim alfono, and here in our studio is democratic strategist, mike feldman. Mike, i want to start with you, one of the things thats been happening since last night, when donald trump made his comment about not necessarily accepting the results of the election, is that people in his camp and people out there in the country have been saying, whats so bad about that . Al gore contested the election in 2000, given your closeness to Vice President gore and that you were part of that story, explain to us whether they have a point or not . They have a point, but its the wrong point. This has been pretty well litigated today, but, look, 2000 was a disput election, as you both know, florida was under recount by law. I think nobody would doubt that it was good to go through every Legal Process they could to determine that the will of the voter was actually honored by the process. But, again, when the highest court in the land weighed in and stopped the recount, al gore and there were plenty of people encouraging Vice President gore to pursue it further, he not only graciously conceded the election, but he told everybody look, dont trash the court. And theres a fine line here between anarchy, essentially, and a disputed Supreme Court decision. And it was a good motel and what concerned me about last night were people that were going out and using that example, when, in fact, what mr. Trump did last night was the very opposite of that kind of graciousness. Kim, remind everybody, briefly, where you stand on your partys nominee. Are you voting for him . Um, ill keep you in suspense. Okay. Very funny. Ill tell you at the time. Lets say that this program ends and your phone rings and its steve bannon and Kellyanne Conway on speaker and they say, trump wants something new to put this behind us. What would you tell them to do . Stop trying to be so clever. I think he gets himself in trouble, where he has the meat of people who are supporting him, and people who are disgruntled with washington and the system want to hear and then he takes it too far. I think that happened to him a couple of times in the debate last night. East got good gut instincts about whats going on in the hearts and minds of people who are tired of politics as usual, but then he tries to be too clever and put on a show, instead of just laying that out there. And i think thats just because thats who he is. Kim, whenou were watching that debate last night, one of the things we discussed in the show is the moment when Hillary Clinton made a comment about him not paying taxes, and sort of not under his breath, he stnappd at her and called hear nasty woman. Ive heard from women all day who read into that, not just snappiness, but a kind of misogyny that upset them. Both as a woman and a republican woman, when you heard that, did you groan . What was your reaction to that comment by there trump . Actually, a suburban pennsylvania voter. Right, there you go. Woman. So, look, i think that you know, i dont like the guy. I really dont. I dont want to hang out with him. But i think that people are getting their panties in a bunch a lot over a lot of stuff. He says things in an incendiary way. He shouldnt, but he treated her like on any other guy who might be on the stage with her. If youre a woman in a business like i have been for a long time where there were no women, i would have taken that as a compliment, not that i would want anyone to talk to me that way, but i would havent gotten so upset over that. And i think that, you know, the bulk of everything that hes been talking about for the last several days, it does turn him into a really big jerk. But, actions, as well, are important. And if you look back over history, there are some whose actions have been pretty gross, too. So Hillary Clinton calls you after the show and says, mike, everyone around me says things are going really well. I want to interview everyone on the staff and make sure were doing everything we need to do. Who would you talk to, what would you ask him . I think theyre doing a pretty good. I think she did it last night, but it was overshadowed by these comments that mr. Trump made. Shes got to start and randi alluded to it earlier, shes got to start laying claim to the outcome this election, which at this point, i think, if the election were tomorrow, people would view as a total repudiation of her opponent and not necessarily a mandate for her. And i think you saw her starting to do that last night. You saw her starting to try to talk to independents, moderate republicans, and others, and try to lay out a vision, and nobody heard very much of it, just because of the outcome of the debate. Thats one thing, because they immediate to start thinking about how theyre going to govern in addition to how theyre going to turn out this vote and win their election. I agree with what you said on the substance, but the debates and its been said often, and its true. Debates do matter, and preparation for debates matter. And i think what this debate showed and what all three debate have shown in totality is a lack of preparation and discipline which is troubling in a potential president of the United States. Its not like mr. Trump was going to know there was going to be a question about his comments about a rigged election. Everyone was giving him a trail of bread crumbs for that question, yet he still dominated the news the day after by making a comment that was clearly out of the view of his own party. Michelle obama is down in arizona. We just played that sound. Theyre trying to win arizona. The polls in texas are pretty close. Missouri, there are a lot of places, suddenly, that the Clinton Campaign is playing. Right now, today, if you had to project, you think Hillary Clinton would win by whattish . I dont know. Is this starting to look like a landslide, or do you think its going to be tight . It feels like shes going to have a very good night. It depends on turnout, her campaign has been methodically communicating to her viewers. I would guess the Trump Campaign and the gop has less certainty around whos going to turnout. But what you saw today is an example of what the Clinton Campaign is going to do. Surrogates, principles, let people know couple, if youre a dispassionate analyst there in pennsylvania, are you starting to feel a landslide or does this still feel like a tight election to you . I am loathe the to predict anything in this election, ever. Because i was on your show about six months ago and got everything wrong. So first, ill lead with that caveat. I think that we cant really predict a landslide, though to start, in any election, the its kind of it is sort of rigged, not in the way that elections dont work, but it is rigged the Electoral College kind of leans democrat to begin with. But i dont think that this is a left right split anymore. I think this is a top bottom split. And how that place out on election day will be new and different for all of us to look at. All right. Kim, you think theres any chance that donald trump can win pennsylvania where hes sitting right now . I will, you know, keep you and suspense. Man, kims taking a pass on all questions today. So but we always love having her here. Kim, youre awesome. Mike, youre adequate. Thank you, both. Well talk ticket splitting and a little bit more when we come right back. Its not just a car, its your daily retreat. The es and es hybrid. Get up to 5,000 customer cash on select 2016 models. See your lexus dealer. Just like that, a moment turns romantic. 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This years different, partially because of Donald Trumps unpopularity. Partially because he has less of an operation, a ground game operation than past president ial candidates do. And hes more reliant on party operations, party ground games. The problem is is that they have different goals than donald trump does, especially in an election like this, where hes so unpopular. I talked to a Party Chairman in arizona, who was for trump, totally supported him, but he said, were working in the same direction, but we have different goals. My goals are to turn out all republicans and at this point in the race, not all republicans are for donald trump. So how are campaigns, in terms of methodology or mechanics, how are they trying to find ticket splitters . We tried to recreate this with me and my colleague, sasha issenberg. We took two different sets of data. We took the data that shows a voters likelihood to be republican or a democrat, their partisanship, and also data, their likelihood to be a trump supporter. And in cases where we had republicans, voters who looked like they were going to be republicans, that number was higher than voters who looked like they were going to be Trump Supporters. So we said, the difference between those two numbers, those are the vulnerable targets that the Clinton Campaign might want to target, and we mapped them around a couple of the key swing states and found that new hampshire, not surprised, an independent streak there, but also indiana and also ohio. And things are so close, any kind of movement could move the needle in that state. Arizona a huge focus, because youve got a lot of republicans there. Weve seen Hillary Clinton move up, a lot of republicans there who would be mccain voters, but not necessarily be trump voters. Thats right. So how important is it in other words, does jm neohn mcca need clinton voters to get reelected . No, clinton needs john mccain voter ifs she wants to win that state. The Clinton Campaign has been clear theyre making a play there. There are two senators, john mccain and jeff flake have been antitrump. The chairman of their party has been one of the most vocal Trump Supporters in the last few days. And so if youre republican in that state, its not clear what youre supposed to do on election day. And the governor is a big supporter of trump, too. Maricopa county, a very key county, you looked at that. Whatd you find . Most of the voters in the state are from maricopa county, about 65 . Around phoenix. Yeah, so its key to any sort of turnout in the state. But we found a huge percentage of these ticket splitters were there. And a lot of them, we found, were mormon, which is one group. We also found a lot of them follow the same sort of trends that trump has had problems with. 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A. , and im actually sort of rooting for the cubs. We have new from our Bloomberg National politics poll also on the website, bloombergpolitics. Com. Until tomorrow, for me and mark, we say to you, were glad were out of vegas and we say sayonara. Coming up, hardball with Chris Matthews. No honeymoon in vegas. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews up in new york city. After the dust settled, it was clear the most stunning moment of last nights debate was Donald Trumps refusal to say whether hed respect the outcome of this years american president ial election. Do you make the same commitment that you absolutely sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election . I will look at it, at the time. Im not looking at anything now. I will look at i