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Headlines, a 57 surprise. Guess who just showed audiotaup sidelines of the summit in france. Nobody at the Trump Administration is talking about it. There are reports the Iranian Foreign minister is coming. Can you confirm that . No comment. Plus a new deal but not the deal. A major u. S. Ally agrees to sign on the dotted line. And second thoughts about second thoughts. The president s comments about the china trade war and the tortured white house clarification. For inside and analysis, we have all of these folks right here, a number of correspondents and analysts in place for us. Well begin with bill neely, our global correspondent on the ground in france. Bill, its a big deal this ir iranian planes arrival. Who was in it . The g7, the plane landing about three hours ago. Hes been in talks with the French Foreign minister. I say gate crash, but the french know about it. Macron has been working quite hard over the last few weeks talking on the phone to irans president and, indeed, directly to the foreign minister himself. What he wants to do according to statement from the presidency a short while ago is to deescalate the tensions between washington and tehran. And the Iranian Foreign ministry saying the foreign minister will not be having any discussions or negotiations with the american delegation. Whats it all about . President macron sees a narrow window. He wants to create space so that the Iran Nuclear Deal which europe supports and the United States has pulled out of, can be renegotiated. He wants to do that by creating a window giving iran incentives to go back to the negotiating table and he thinks persuading the United States that it might be a good idea to soften the sanctions, to let iran, for example, export some oil for a limited amount of time, to some countries. Giving iran some financial incentive to go back to the negotiating table. Now, the iranians have said they would be open to this, but as you said right at the beginning, the big question is will the americans be open . To that President Trump has said hes open to having a new deal, but the white house has given no real indications that this might be possible. And dont forget who is with President Trump here at the g7. None other than john bolton. Is he really going to be sweet talked into agreeing to softening the sanctions on iran . I would say thats the major obstacle. President macron of france seeing a small window, not just to make this a big success for him, but also to lower those tensions in the persian gulf which have seen explosions, which have seen ships boarded. They have seen drones shot down. There is a real issue here that concerns everybody, so he sees this as a narrow opportunity. One final thing. Were not quite sure how long zariff will be here for, but big surprise as there always is at his submits. Zarif is here for talks we know that zarif is there for a bilateral with france. It should be noted that the Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson said specifically in this trip there will be no meeting or negotiations with the american delegation. Were going to have to see if that holds true. Thank you, bill, for that. Now to Hallie Jackson who is following the president for us in france. Is it true . Is there any indication that the white house knew about this . I know that you asked about this. How big a surprise is it . Right. Nbc news has learned from our reporting on the ground that this blind sided some white house officials who said it was a total surprise. Not only that zarif was invited to the g 7, but that he showed up in the middle of a conversation essentially that some reporter were having with top officials. This is certainly not sitting well with some Administration Officials described by our sources, some of them as furious about this latest development. As bill neely was saying, the french do want to open this window. They see that window, but this idea that they sort of took the u. S. By surprise is not going to sit well for any negotiations down the road. That said, i asked Steven Mnuchin about this as this was unfolding moments after zarif arrived here in southwest france. I want to play for you what he had to say. Does the president welcome foreign minister zarif to be here . Would you have a conversation with him . The president has said before that to the extent that iran wants to sit down and negotiate, he would not set preconditions to the negotiations. Im not going to make anymore comments about who is here and whos not here and what conversations may or may not be going on. Theres still another event today. Its unlikely were going to see the president as it is closed press. Hes set to meet with the other leaders here. It would be surprising if zarifs appearance on the sidelines of the summit, hes not going to be in the group of meetings just with the g7 leaders did not come up. Thats not the only drama weve had today. Its only noon there, but its 6 00 p. M. Here, and its been a day. The president as you referenced seeming to soften his stance an china for roughly six hours until Top White House officials came out to harden it up. Secretary mnuchin in that conversation also emphasized that the president was not having second thoughts about the trade war and if he was, its that hes regretful that tariffs werent tougher initially. You may ask does that mean theres a round of tariffs . Were told those are not being looked add at the moment, but they remain on the table eventually if the white house wanted to put it in place. Definitely a roller coaster ride at the summit. Unlike past overseas trips when the president has come in and seemed intent on trying to throw his weight around, thats not the kind of commander in chief weve seen. This is a president who appears to want to get along with everybody and is outwardly talking at least before zarifs arrival about how good the discussions have been. Larry kudlow told me a couple hours ago, the vibes have been great, in his words. Zarifs arrival may change some of that. Thats a storyline were watching tonight. Hallie, thank you for setting up trade talks. I want to get back to a report from yesterday. You said macron and trump met for 90 minutes yesterday. Are you telling me there was no indication macron did not tell the american president that he had invited the foreign minister of iran to meet during a 90 minute conversation . I mean, thats a hell of a diplomatic dance hes conducting. Sure would be. And as we note in the story that we just posted on nbcnews. Com, its not clear when the president himself was told by macron about this. Whenever he was told, it did not trickle down to top Administration Officials we talked to who are saying they were surprised that zarif actually showed up here. Bill neely noted there are no meetings planned between the u. S. And iran. The president might be open to that. Thats what weve been hearing. He said he would be willing to talk with iran if there were no preconditions to the discussions. It doesnt look like thats going to happen in france, at least not right now. All right. Hallie jackson, thank you for staying on the case. Well find out anything through you in the future. Appreciate that. Joining me now is a democrat from oregon and a member of the Foreign Relations committee. Sir, were going to have you onto talk about your new book america is better than this, and talking about the Trump Administrations treatment of Migrant Children right now. Its a phenomenal book. Well get to that, but i have to ask how you interpreted what weve learned, that the Iranian Foreign minister is at the g7 continuing talks with france in a bilateral fashion. A spokesperson says not meeting with the american delegation. I am struck about how wide the Atlantic Ocean is getting. This space between the United States and europe. Because going into this g7 theres already an agreement not to have a common communique, and then differences over russia and whether it should rejoin the g7. Whether or not how the approach should be made to china and trade policy, and of course the gcpoa, the agreement with iran over Nuclear Fuels and deescalation of a program. That gap between the United States and europe punk chated by this arrival. If, in fact, president macron did not convey this to President Trump and the state department, it would be a massive diplomatic breach, and again, emphasize how different positions europe is coming from and the United States. And senator, on top of that, we heard the treasury secretary say theyre not going to set any sort of preconditions to negotiate with iran. What does this leave the u. S. If the Iranian Foreign minister does not mean with President Trump or anyone from the american delegation which hypothetically while theyre in the same building . Well, then its not just about the Iranian Foreign minister and he wants. The arrangements had to be worked out in advance, who he would speak to, who he wouldnt. If that was the condition on his coming that he wouldnt speak to the u. S. And just the european powers again shows this really bizarre strategy in which europe is trying to confront trump in a way without a confrontation. Without the foreign minister of iran speaking to him. Ultimately the United States is on a very dangerous course here. We led the world in developing an agreement to dismantle the Iranian Nuclear program, and then we abandoned it and left them hanging. Theyre like no, this was really a good agreement. This made the world safer. And so were completely out of sync and this just will be remembered as an example that on the other hand, if, in fact, there has been prenegotiations on this, and the americans understood the game and are part of it, then maybe its an opening people have been looking for. Thats the mystery we dont know the answer to. If zarif is in france and at the invitation of france, theyre only meeting with france, is this an indication that president macron is borrowing a line from donald trump and putting france first . It would be a tremendous offense to the United States if hes using the g7 gathering to do this in this fashion. All right, senator, im going to have you back in a little bit. Sit tight. Well talk about your book which i said was quite extraordinary. Well get into the details. Thank you. The other two from the g7, the u. S. Announced a trade deal in principle with japan. The president next month. Were been working on a deal with japan for a long time. It involves agricultural, and it involves ecommerce and many other things. Its a very big transaction. Weve agreed in principle. And second the white house trying to change interpretation of the president s statement after he appeared to imply regret over the escalating trade war with china. The president was asked three times about it. Reporter do you have any second thoughts in escalating the trade war with china . For sure. Might as well. Reporter you have second thoughts about i have second thoughts about everything. The white house says those comments were, quote, greatly misinterpreted. Daily beast reporting that secretary mnuchin suggested it was a crowded room and the president did not hear clearly and if anything the president regrets not escalating that trade war further. He has no second thoughts. No second thoughts. His only second thoughts as he said was maybe he should raise tariffs more. I was in that meeting. There were a lot of people yelling. I found it somewhat hard to hear. He didnt exactly hear the question. He intended to say he always has second thoughts and he had second thoughts about possibly a higher tariff response to china. Joining me now shannon, and john harwood. Shannon when you heard the president say he had second thoughts about the trade war with china, how did you take it . Reporter well, we can all listen to this video and interpret it in different ways. I think a lot of us at that time sort of took it as a flippant remark he was making. Because Everything Else he said still seemed to indicate that he had a tough tone on china and continued tough rhetoric on china. It seemed he was making a flippant, offhand remark to it. It speaks to a level of confusion that we covering the white house have repeatedly with this president. Earlier this week there was a back and forth over the payroll tax and whether he was considering it, the white house said he wasnt. Then he said he was thinking about it. Then he said it was off the table. Its just sort of a perpetual cycle where the response to the question is very clear, but then we have the white house backwalking and the president and sometimes his own advisers trying to backwalk what he just said in response to a pretty direct question as you could tell in this scenario. It was a pretty direct question asked multiple times. John, how did you interpret the president s remarks when you first heard them . Reporter like shannon did. The answer was not really responsive in any substantive way to the question. It was the president making a face and making a flip response. No to me the shocking thing was not the president s statement but what grish m put out later to say he wishes the tariffs were higher. They didnt have to do that. Perhaps she was ordered to issue that statement, but the idea that at a moment when the markets are frajl, when economies around the world are vulnerable, you would not just walk away or down play what the president had said, but take it hard in the opposite direction was quite striking. And you think, john, that was because it seemed somewhat ambivalent. The president seemed to be backtracking. We know the president likes to punch harder. You know, we know. His wife said thats his style. And weve seen him punch down, if you will. You think he was just pushing back harder to try to make his point . The president is very responsive to the needs of his ego. And he values being seen and projecting the image of a tough guy. And so when you have remarks like he gave that flip remark, whatever it meant, when it became interpreted as hes backing down, i think the president s reaction is im tough. I dont back down. So he doubled down, and i to me thats the most likely explanation. Okay. Shannon, what about the u. S. japan trade deal. The president says its been agreed upon in principle. What does that mean and how significant is that . Reporter well, it essentially means that all the details have to be hammered out. And again, weve seen this with this white house before where they appear to have reached an agreement in principle, but the devil is always in the details. Were going to have to make sure the japanese and the u. S. Can actually work through those details, and oftentimes those are where the sticking points are. We know the japanese want to get a deal done. They seem to be negotiating in good faith. The president has a close relationship with abe. I would anticipate this is something that goes fwarorward who knows . One thing i add to china. The president always wants to appear hes very strong. I have seen the administration and Administration Officials have signalled this to me, that they also at the same time want to show china that there is an open door and to try to keep them at the table. There have been instances where the president was going to give a speech and they pulled it back and made sure the chinese were aware the president requested the Vice President not to give a speech to show the chinese if you play nice with us, well play nice with you. Well hit you on the nose but also pat you on the head. It doesnt appear this was one of those moments, but i am sort of looking for that moment where the administration appears to soften to show china we will play nice with you if youll play nice with it. Clearly multiple strategies trying to be used. Alex, one postscript to the conversation that you were just having with senator merkley and bill neely initially. I think emanuel macron was hitting trump where it hurts by having the iranians come for a surprise visit. That was a statement that u. S. Leadership has been sidelined. France on behalf of partners in the g7 and taking charge of the situation inviting someone who is not going to talk to the United States, it was a demonstration that u. S. Leadership is not central to this issue, and, therefore, President Trump is not central to this issue, and i would be surprised if the president doesnt react sharply against that before this summit is over. Shannon, you want to comment on that thought . Yeah. Absolutely. The response, i and hi colleagues hallie and carol lee have heard the Administration Officials are very upset. They feel blind sided by this. The president has gone out of his way to compliment macron. How hes been treated beautifully. Congratulating macron on this summit. Maybe, it is possible, that the president knew of this and did not communicate it to anyone else in his staff. That is definitely possible, but if the president did not know about this, like the rest of his staff, yes, i think he will we are going to see a tweet or negative response to macron. If anyone is going to create a surprise here, its President Trump as we saw in the last g7 summit where he left early. The white house makes the surprises. They do not like to be surprised. Yeah. I think the price of french wines are going to go up. Thats just my thought of it all. All right. Good to see you both, shannon and john, thank you so much. Trump challenged a former congressman who plans to run against him. Whats the angle . Later the fires burning in the amazon. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United States Postal Service makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Ecommerce deliveries to homes Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance, hmm. Exactly. So you only pay for what you need. Nice. But, uh. 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Now to the new move from the Trump Administration to get rid of the limit on how long it can detain immigrant families. Who areas where they want to detain families are operated by private companies. The forprofit businesses make more money the longer they detain immigrants. They have faced multiple allegations of mismanagement and mistreatment. Under a new rule the Detention Centers would no longer need state licenses. Instead, i. C. E. Would send detention standards. The Company Reportedly earns 55 million a year from this facility where detained women allege some sexual abuse actions by guards and last year a migrant toddler died shortly after being released from this texas center where there was a revenue of 171 million in 2017. The childs mother testified before congress and is suing alleging her oneyearold developed a respiratory illness while being detained and was given inadequate medical treatment. Joining me now a democrat from oregon. He has a new book titled america is better than this, trumps war against migrant families and is a sponsor to stop cruelty to Migrant Children act. Sir, because youre a member of the budget and formulations committees, i want to ask you about the president saying he has second thoughts about his escalation of the trade war with china but moments later the white house claiming what he means is he regrets not raising the tariffs higher. Your reaction . Everything is inconsistent in the trade discussion. Its like the president is throwing rocks and then regretting he threw so many rocks and china is going to throw rocks back. Theres no coherent plan on how to decrease the manufacturing gap with china and bring jobs back to the United States. Its more rhetoric than strategy, more chaos than productive exchange. Okay. Now to the book. You recount in this your visit to the Detention Centers including the two i just described. You write in your book, quote, the Trump Administration is hard at work trying to create a massive system of family internment camps. Why did you write that statement . Its a pretty profound statement there. What did you see there . Lets go back to june of last year. 14 months ago, in which the president had an executive order and he laid out three strategies to allow the indefinite detention of children and children and their parents together. Thats where the internment camps come in. Theres one in texas and one in pennsylvania. But currently theyre restricted to Holding Families for less than 20 days. In fact, under florez, its supposed to be less than three days except when theres a big influx occurring on the border. This idea, this core idea of indefinite imprisonment of children is part of a war on children as a strategy of the United States of america. The president has laid it out. Former attorney Jeff Sessions has laid it out. Former head of dhs and chief of staff john kelly laid it out. If we treat immigrants ho riffically, it will deter immigration. Thats unacceptable under any moral code or religious tradition. Its just not true. The statistics will show that a mother trying to escape violence from a country in Central America will forego any sort of legal channels and go through the rio grande in the middle of the night in an inflatable raft if she has to. It is not proven to be a deterrent thus far. Alex, youre right. It doesnt work as a deterrent. If you are like one family i met, the woman was there on the border with her 56day old child. She fled because her family couldnt repay a bank loan and by that, private bank, i assume she meant to a cartel. The cartel said youre targeted. If your family cant repay, you will die. She thought they would not kill her while she was pregnant. She waited hoping to repay the loan until she was eight months pregnant, and it took her three months. I asked her what happened after you left. Was your family able to repay the loan. She said no. I said then what happened . She said well, they killed my uncle instead of me. She was rejected at the port of entry by the United States, customs and Border Protection three times. Sent back into mexico with no funds, no family, no friends with a little tiny baby in her arms . And she was claiming asylum and turned away . She did not i dont know if she officially claimed asylum or not. I dont know if she legally knew how to cross the border. I said how did you get across if you were blocked on the bridge. She lit up for a moment and said i was so desperate, and then i saw there was a pedestrian bridge and a car bridge. On the car bridge there were people washing windows, and so for tips, so i washed windows into the United States of america. But she was treated as if she had illegally crossed the border, even though she came to the port of entry seeking refuge. She may not have known the right legal words to say or even had a chance to say them, but she was definitely in this world where the Refugee Convention senses someone is persecuted and comes to your border, you are to give them safe harbor. That is something weve fought for. Helped lead the world in human rights and now were deliberately injuring children under this administration. Sobering there. Lets talk about the prison industry. Weve been reporting on the industry itself, having poured record amounts of money into the 2018 election cycle. Numbers here, if you add it up, it gives about eight times as much to republicans than democrats. Does that explain why the Trump Administration is pushing to detain immigrant families . How strong is the prison system lobbying efforts . In terms of child separation, the biggest guilty partner is john kelly, he was on the board of the for profit child prison before he came into the administration. He started advocating for child separation as soon as he came into the administration. And as soon as he left, he was put back on to the board of calibern in a paid position. This prison has been emptied out probably because of the hurricane season, but it was being fed multiple children and expanded to a capacity of 3200 children being paid 750 to 775 a day. Every incentive to lock up children rather than move them to a statelicensed facility. A care facility. And they should be moved into homes as they await their adjudication for asylum. Treat children with decency and respect. Senator, we cannot forget that at least six Migrant Children have died in i. C. E. Custody or shortly after being released. Have you seen evidence that i. C. E. Is capable of maintaining a healthy environment and prevent more children from becoming deathly ill or dying while under their supervision . No. When you have the philosophy from the top of inflicting pain deliberately, you find it very easy to not meet basic needs. We have a president who said children should not be let outside to play out of their dormitories to play in a soccer field. Who has said the administration has said were not going to do flu shots at the cbp centers even though flu has killed three Migrant Children or was a cricketing factor in the death of three refugee children. They have appealed a decision that they have to provide bedding, toothbrushes and soap for children. What government in the world says were not going to provide basic hygiene and basic nutrition and a place to sleep for children . Its the government of the United States under donald trump. They cannot be trusted. They want to get out of state licensing, thats part of this rule that they just put forward. They want to get out of state oversight and inspection and oversight under the florez rule where allows outsiders to monitor and they want to allow indefinite imprisonment, or forever incarceration while people are in the asylum system. Separation and imprisonment do deep trauma. Senator, sobering. The book america is better than this. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Every day, visionaries are creating the future. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United States Postal Service makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. My dbut now, i take used tometamucil every day. Sh it traps and removes the waste that weighs me down, so i feel lighter. Try metamucil, and begin to feel what lighter feels like. He borrowed billions donald trump failed as a businessman. And left a trail of bankruptcy and broken promises. He hasnt changed. I started a tiny investment business, and over 27 years, grew it successfully to 36 billion dollars. Im tom steyer and i approve this message. Im running for president because unlike other candidates, i can go head to head with donald trump on the economy, and expose him fo what he is a fraud and a failure. Developing this hour, President Trumps dattle with Anthony Scaramucci escalating to the next level. Scaramucci says hes starting a superpac to dismantle the president. He also knows that at the end of the day you know i can grab ahold of five, six, 8 of the people that know hes nuts and possibly move them. And so thats what well be working on over the next 15 months. Joining me now sam nunberg. Good to have you here. Do you think scaramucci is telling the truth . I want to compliment you about your audience to see how you multitask during the breaks. Emailing im not sure what it is. Anyway. Anthony is a little inconsistent with what hes saying about a superpac. When he said if i could convince five to six, eight percent of people in the next 15 months that means hes working into the general election about defeating donald trump. Sometimes i hear him talk about trying to find a new nominee. And i doubt that the people that hes talking to would be the real power players because the president for better or worse holds the party. I mean, if hes raising a lot of money directly to his campaign to the r and c, and whether or not his poll numbers have dropped a little, hes at 80 , the last National Poll showing. He has a connection with the large segment of the American People and particularly in the party. He still attracts massive crowds. You saw this in New Hampshire. I do not believe that the president can really be subject to any serious primary challenge. Im going to ask about the challenges, the ones up and coming in a second. I want to note that last night Anthony Scaramucci was seen at a fundraiser in the hamptons for joe biden. He said i dont support joe biden, but he sure does not support donald trump. What is he doing . Anthony, he supported barack obama in 2008. Then he supported mitt romney. Anthony is a power figure in his own right when the president says nobody knew about Anthony Scaramucci, thats dead wrong. I mean, im a big wall street Money Never Sleeps fan. Anthony was in there along with ali velshi. Anthony as always known marketing. Thats why the president brought him in as communications director, and anthony goes around in different circles. Anthony claims that wasnt a fundraiser for biden. It was a fundraiser for charity, but it wasnt a good look if hes trying to convince the republican primary voter that donald trump should not be the nominee, which, of course, seems to me as a fools errand. If past is prologue, quickly, you can primary a Republican Office holder from the right from a populous type message. Donald trump may not be as conservative on spending, but hes a populist. But there are those putting money into the races. Theyre out there stepping out. You have william well, former governor of massachusetts who is running. Hes made it official. And a couple hours ago it was made official by joe walsh. Lets listen to what he says and why he thinks he could pose a challenge to trump. Heres that, everybody. He has no freaking clue what hes doing. He said he was going to build a wall, george. We havent built a foot of the wall. He said mexico was going to pay for it. We havent. He told us trade wars were easy. Tell that to American Farmers right now. Tell that to American Consumers. President trump said i will eliminate the debt in eight years. Hes increased it faster than barack obama did. To his point, does the president have no freaking clue what hes doing to quote him . Well, i think that the president has is in a lot of directions. And sure, sometimes he does not do his own homework, but, for instance, with the china, previously reported, when he says i have regrets then i dont have regrets, this is an issue he does know a lot about. I could tell you from my time working with him, i could never get him to do a briefing on foreign policy, but if you bring up an issue of trade, he likes that. He sends mixed messages all the time. Joe walsh, he was im not here to poo poo him, but this is a oneterm congressman who doesnt really have a national profile. I dont think that he was a major radio host. Hes a talk show but this wasnt a major syndicated talk show host. Bill weld is interesting. Presumably because of being governor of massachusetts, he could be very well organized in New Hampshire ann get a lot of crossover votes from independents, and so there you could see him overperform. But with that said, once again, the president will be the nominee of this party. Can i get your take away on the president s comments to democratically inclined Jewish Americans who she says are disloyal if they dont vote for him. Shes inartful about what hes saying. It was the same thing with his tweets about the squad. Everything he said besides saying he should go back home especially to three americanborn americans, and then the issue would not be as divisive as it is. Look, the president is in a bind. He has to win catholics and he has to overperform with the jewish vote. Mitt romney got the most jewish vote according to polls in 2003 and won catholics. Thats why he thought he was going to win. This president needs to get over 30 of the jewish vote and he needs to get over 55 of the catholic vote. These are issues that he is desperate. The one thing about this president is he may say all the polls are fake, but he knows whats going on, and right now he has a tough pathway to the reelection. 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Im running for president because unlike other candidates, i can go head to head with donald trump on the economy, and expose him fo what he is a fraud and a failure. The first survivor of alzis out there. Ase and the Alzheimers Association is going to make it happen. But we wont get there without you. Join the fight with the Alzheimers Association. Conservative radio host joe walsh announcing a 2020 president ial run against trump and hes already making his case to gop voters. He has no freaking clue what hes doing. He ran he said he would build a wall. We havent built a foot of the wall. He said mexico was going to pay for it. They havent. He told us trade wars were easy. Tell that to American Farmers right now. Tell that to American Consumers. President trump said i will eliminate the debt in eight years. Hes increased it faster than barack obama did. Joining me no now is republican strategist and republican strategist rena shaw. Welcome, ladies. Susan, you first. Joe walsh, does he pose a serious threat to the president in this is the guy known as trump before trump. Is he the person that will turn gop voters . I dont think hell necessarily have a chance against the president in the actual primary but i do think he has the ability to drive the president absolutely bananas. Not forgetting his background of being a conservative radio talk show host. That will bother the president and he also the clip you showed there went to some of the fiscal issues but what hes promised is that he is going to go after the character of the president. That is something that no one has really done in the campaign situation and i think hes going to make the democrats job a lot easier. Hes questioned why more republicans havent come out. Im all for it. I think its great. Anything that can hurt this president and take him down and get him out of office, im all for. Thus says our republican here on the panel. Elena, to you. Is walsh making the case for democrats. Is that what you heard . The message 2020 hopefuls should echo. Susan said it will make it easier for democrats. I dont think joe walsh is saying anything the democrats havent said. Hes more of the same. Joe walsh pedalled in using the n word and inflammatory racism troeps. He called barack obama a muslim which would be fine if he was a muslim but hes not. Joe walsh is not the answer. What he is doing, i disagree with susan is going to be a thorn in the side of donald trump because he is on the republican side coming from the right saying all of the things that we already know that donald trump lies every day before breakfast and he is becoming unhinged and that he is dividing the country and joe walsh speaks to what voters are thinking about their Economic Future in the insecurities that we are feeling with trump in the oval office. Hes not the only republican that is challenging trump. He joins former Massachusetts Governor bill weld. Hes made it official. Former South Carolina governor mark sanford is still considering running. Kr rena, you were one of the top strategist. Do you think any of these candidates with oust trump in a primary or what should their strategy be in terms of what they hope to accomplish in. Theyve already done the right thing by not forming a third party bid. Thats really important. Joe walsh already, this is a twitter presidency. He won me over many months ago with his tweets. Hes been steady. The drum beats heavy against trump. I really like that about joe. Did i like joe in 2010, heck no. Hes guy i would not have supported. Joe walsh is man who apologized over and over for so much of his part in creating trump and creating the modern republican day party. I think thats really huge. Man who wants to apologize, that is incredible. He also seems to understand the modern media landscape far better than welds does. Sanford, if you ask me, hes a liar through and through. Theres some liabilities in joe walshs past. Im excited because jimmy carter, he was an incumbent. Had a tough primary challenge. Joe walsh has the ability to do that. He wants bar fight every day. I know hes going to bring it to him. Every word counted from each of you. Thank you so much. All good. For all of you, as you can look at the clock, its just past the top of the hour. We have three breaking News Headlines to share. The first up, a dramatic sunday surprise at the g7. An unexpected guest shows up on the sidelines. A new deal but not the deal. Just who decided the sign on the dotted line. What did he say and what did he mean . The president s comments about the china trade war and what to make of the white house clarification. We have a number of correspondents and analysts in place for us. Were going to begin with bill neely. Lets talk about the iranian plane arrival and the important figure on board. What do you know about all that . About four hours ago irans foreign minister gate crashed the g7 to every ones surprise. Not quite gate crash because he was invite bid the french president who say its an initiative to try to reduce tensions between tehran and washington. A french official has been briefing reporters and saying president macron decided this at dinner last night but emphasizing this is a french initiative, not a g7 initiative. The Iranian Foreign ministry making clear that he will not have any negotiations or discussions with the american delegation. Why is he doing this . President macron has been working quite hard over the last few weeks talking to irans president and indeed how to save the nuclear deal. The idea is that if president macron can persuades the americans to ease sanctions just a little so that iran can sell some oil for a limited amount of time to some countries and help the humanitarian situation there then theres the possibility that the iranians would agree to go back to talks with the United States. Will President Trump agree to this, does he feel hes being backed into some kind of corner . We dont know. Obviously, john bolton, the National Security adviser is at his shoulder so he may not be sweet talked into talking with iran. Alex. It remains to be seen. Thank you for that. Lets bring in Hallie Jackson who is on her beat following the president from southwest france. The white house was blind sided by this visit. What have you learned . Its not clear that President Trump will be sweet talked into discussions with iran. The door might be open to negotiations with no preconditions. Some of our colleagues in the White House Press cool caught up with the australian Prime Minister who is said to meet with President Trump today. Australia is not a member of the g7 but they were sent an invite by the french to be here and have broader conversations. The french president wanted to make this move to bolster an issue important to him. How is that being received inside the white house. Several Administration Officials are telling us they were blind sided by this. Some in the administration are very upset with the french for not giving more advance note. President trump had no comment when asked but let me play a bit of what treasury secretary mnuchin had to say. Will you have a conversation with him. To the extent iran want to sit down, he would not set preconditions to those negotiations. Im not going to make anymore comments about who is here and who is not here and what conversations may or may not be going on. Reporter its not clear when the president himself was notified that he would be here. This is not an expected stop for the iranians. A source telling us that he was headed to asia but last minute received this invitation from the french and rerouted here. Alex. Thank you very much for that. Lets go there to iran. Thats where nbc news tehran chief ali has been following this story. What have you learned . Was this last minute invitation that a pivot was made. Thats right. It was very unexpected. The press core here in iran had been told he would embark on a tour of asia. We know over the last few days the frechb and the irans video been talking and perhaps there was enough there in those conversations for both sides to feel it was worthwhile for zarif to show up at the g7. I guess the one person and the gate crasher to another. Beyond that, they are miles apart on their approach to tehran. Also the invitation may be perceived as provocative by President Trump. Even though sparks may not fly, there will be a pretty cold atmosphere. It was recently that trump said that france doesnt speak for the u. S. And today when the french were asked whether the white house was aware of zarifs visit, a french official said they operate on their own terms. What is likely is when iran and america are in such close proximity with each other and there are players involved in between them trying to diffuse the situation then messages may be exchanged more quickly, more coherently between the two. Whether that will yields any results is anyones guess. You say france doesnt speak for the United States. It does not speak to the United States as well because hallie was reporting that you had macron and trump in a 90minute conversation where there was not a word uttered about this which is a pretty significant thing in itself. Thank you so much. We appreciate your take on all of this. Last hour i asked a member of the Foreign Relations committee for his reaction. I am just struck about how wide the Atlantic Ocean is getting. Europe is trying to confront trump in way without a confrontation. The United States is on a da dangerous course here. We left, we abandoned it. We left them hanging. Theyre like no, this was a good agreement. This made the world safer. Marie was voinvolved in negotiating that daily. How do you interpret the Iranian Foreign minister has arrived at the g7 summit but the spokesperson says hes not meeting with the american delegation. The europeans and the chinese and the russians have been working really hard over the past month since President Trump unilaterally with drew from the deal, they have been working hard to try to keep it in place. The fact remained under it, iran had significant limitations on their program and could not develop a nuclear weapon. Its just extraordinary to me to think back to those years in the Obama Administration when the United States was leading the negotiations. They were bringing along the french. We were bringing along the rest of the European Countries pushing the iranians and now were in a leadership role. W were not even at the table. Were outside that negotiation room. Despite how much President Trump hated the deal, by being on the outside of this process, we dont have a say in these negotiations. Thats a really weak place for the United States to be. I hope the french can keep the iranians in the deal and keep the restrictions in place. President trump, by blowing up the deal without anything to replace it, hes spplaying spoir here and the europeans are trying to clean up his mess. Do you agree with the statements offered in the last hour that say in indicates how far the United States has fallen in terms of its leadership. Macron is saying i know this is happening right in front of trumps face but i dont care. Im going france first. Its really extraordinary and not just on the issue of iran although thats the news of the day and a very concerning one for the u. S. Not to be a part of. We have seen reports leading up that the other countries are working on Climate Change together. The yiUnited States doesnt wan to be part of that conversation. They are work on how to counter what is looking like a Global Economic slowdown, possibly a recession caused in part by Donald Trumps own actions. They are working on that without us. All of these issues of global importance where the United States used to play a leadership role, whether you liked our policies or not, we were leading the world. Today President Trump is just throwing rhetorical bomb, ripping up agreement, having nothing to replace them and isnt driving the leadership role in the world anymore. Hes just on the sidelines and it seems like the g7 is saying how can we have him do the least amount of harm which is a terrible place for the country to be in. These negotiations that you were involved in relative to the iran deal that europeans are trying to salvage here, is this going to be an issue . The fact you have zarif coming here in the face of everybody to do a bilateral. Did this need to be done right now or might there be some blow back as a result . There does seem to be real sense of urgency. We have sort of seen coming out of the iranians their adherence to the deal will not last forever. They already tried testing pieces of it because the sanctions have been put back in place by the u. S. It does seem to me like theres a sense of urgency that folks in europe, folks in iran do actually think this is a moment where we need to shake things up and you know what, theres some maybe some upside to throwing this in the president s face saying were going to do this with or without you. Do you want to be part of this or not. There may be some strategy on macrons part. Stay with me. Here a couple of the two big story we want to get into right now. The u. S. Announced trade deal with japan. The president said they will sign the deal around the u. N. General assembly next month. Weve been working on a deal with japan for a long time. It involves agriculture and e commerce. Its a very big transaction and we have agreed in principle. Second the white house trying to change interpretation of the president s statement after it apy appeared to imply regret over the escalating trade war but listen to how the president was asked three times about it. Any seconds thought on escalating the trade war with china . For sure, why not. Might as well. Might as well. Do you have second thoughts about escalating the war . I have second thoughts about everything. The white house said those comments were greatly misinterpreted and he regrets not implicating the trade war further. He has no second thoughts. Maybe he should raise tariffs more. I was in that meeting. There were a lot of people yelling. I found it hard to hear. He didnt hear the question. Actually, what he was intending to say is he always has second thoughts and he had second thoughts about a higher tariff response to china. With me now francesca chambers, carol lee and marie hart is back. Was there room for misinterpretation especially that reporters followed up on his second thoughts comments not once but twice. Those are follow ups after making that statement. There was a report in the daily beast, you heard larry kudlow saying he wouldnt hear. There were a lot of people in the room. I dont know about you, with the exception of clicking of camera shutters, it was pretty clear what those reporters were asking. Absolutely, alex. I think one of the reasons it was asked so many times is that the answer was so unusual for this president. Its not a president who admits when he makes mistakes as the president said you never apologize. The idea he was saying that he was having second thoughts about something, particularly something as significant as his trade war with china seemed like an implausible thing to be coming out of his mouth which is why he was asked repeatedly. Then they tried to clean it up. If you look at that whole pool spray, hisdemeanor was conciliatory. Hes been such much more softer. His tone has been softer since hes been here at the g7. Sheem ed he seemed to be going with the flow and the Prime Minister of the uk that he was sitting across from disagrees with him on this issue. He made the point of saying so publicly. Talk about why the remarks were so surprising. Because the president had been so steadfast in his plans for escalating the tariff war with china. Hes not backed down from it. Broadly speaking hes really leaned into this policy and just generally is not a president who adviser to say that hes made a mistake. Thats what it sounded like he was saying. That he was having second thoughts about something as significant as this. It was just a very unusual moment. Yeah. Quite. I know you were also there, francesca. Is there an appetite to raise tariffs higher on china. Well, to carols point, perhaps he was picking up on those beach vibes that weve got here. Maybe its bit of jet lag. He said, sure, first. He was very nonchalent about it. Maybe confused about what was being asked about it which is why reporters asked several times if hes sure thats what he wanted to say. The white house saying after the fact it was being misd misinterpreted. Trying to spin it a different way saying he just misheard it. They said they hadnt asked the president that question, by the way, as to whether or not he misheard it. They absolutely doubled down on this idea if he was going to do anything, it would be to hike up tariffs higher. They said theres no plan currently for him to do that. I want to get to the announcement on the japan trade deal. You start with that one. What we know about it and how significant is this development. We know, a little bit about it. The president said its going to be a big deal that they will finalize the u. N. General assembly next month and the most significant piece is that japan has agreed to, according to the president buy more Agricultural Products from the u. S. Thats good news if this goes through and the devil is always in the details. We havent seen the details yet. Its good news for the president politically because as you know, theres been a lot of consternation among republicans and some of his supporters in the midwest. Some farmers because they have suffered under his trade war with china. Thats one reason why this would be, if it goes through, and is what they purported it to be would be good for the president. This is a president who campaigned on cutting deals and this would be one of the initial first big deals that he would be able to deliver on in terms of trade which has been his signature issue since he campaigned in 2016. Marie, do you see this as a win for the president and would that push other countries to try and reach some sort of a trade agreement with the u. S. . Its definitely not a win yes. Its people sort of getting on the same page about the general outlines of what one might look like but as carol said the devil is in the details. We have seen japan negotiating trade deals with other partners around the world. It took them months after they said they had agreements in principal to finalize those deals. I would be very surprised if they were able to finalize a trade deal thats coming up in just next month. Certainly if he were to get a trade deal done, that would be good. The details we have seen so far that its fairly limited. You started to hear even more and more republican supporters of the president come out and set the stage for months and months of trade wars can other countries around the world. Administration officials saying privately they dont actually think they will be able to get a china deal and republican politicians telling their c constituents consumers will pay more. Steel Companies May have to keep laying people off and American Consumers and businesses will be bearing the brunt of this for a long time. This announcement about this principal principle of an agreement isnt going to change that yet. You asked about the president s intention to invite Vladmir Putin back. Whats the word on that . The United States will actually be the host country of the g7 next year and so it would be up to donald trump to decide whether or not he wants him to be there. Treasury secretary Stephen Mnuchin telling me theres no decision on that yet. 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I think when they steal and take out intellectual profit theft, anywhere from 300 billion to 500 billion a year and we have total loss of almost a trillion dollars a year, if more years this has been going on. Many many ways its an emergency. I have no plan right now. Joining me now is democratic congressman from california. Hes a member of the House Oversight committee. You heard him say he has a right to declare a National Emergency. Its worth noting were still in a National Emergency. The president declared one along the u. S. Mexico border. Is china a National Emergency . Is it possible the president is abusing his authority . I do agree with the president and the administration that we have real issues with china that need to be addressed. We have to look at whats going on here. Im fortunate that i built businesses up to 10,000 people. What businesses want more than anything is predictability and stability. What we have with our president is unpredictable behavior and instability that he brings to the table when he unilaterally by tweets threatens or implements tariffs. This is not good for business. This is not good for our international relations. Picking up on what you just said. Law experts say they are worried the president does not fully understand his own threat against china. Quote, trump is increasingly dangerous creating situations that cannot be readily fixed down the road and he clearly doesnt care what happens in the long run. Whats your response to that . I think its spot on. I think what were seeing right now with the g7 summit and the President Administration almost being ostracized because of the activities and conduct and behavior in Foreign Relations that this administration is taking is causing foreign leaders, our ally, our historying allies to have to look at other avenues in addressing this trade war and the way its proceeding under this administration. The president has confirmed hes not ruling out inviting Vladmir Putin to next years summit in the u. S. Im curious your reaction to all of that because i want to remind you as well as our viewers what robert mumeller said in july about russia. Is this, in your investigation did you think this was a single attempt by the russians to get involved in our election or did you find evidence to suggest they will try to do this again . It wasnt a single attempt. Theyre doing it as we sit here and they expect to do it during the next campaign. What kind of a message would that send . Alex, im flabb ebergasted o one hand but not surprised on the other because this president does so many things unprecedented. In ottatwo of the president s meetings with president putin, there was no interpretor and he literally took the notes from our interpreter so our National Security advisers have no idea what was discussed in that meeting. To offer the idea that we would allow russia to rejoin and have the g8, o foreign adversary who interfered in our elections as specially stated the first half of the Mueller Report in muellers testimony, for the president to suggest this is the right course of action is beyond belief. We all have to step up. Republicans and democrats and make sure this doesnt happen. We requecannot lose sight. This is a foreign adversary thats taken actions on the International Scale thats ingrui inbegi ingruent with our beliefs. I want to ask about the amazon fires. Is the u. S. Doing enough to help. They will accelerate Climate Change in two says. We are losing what many people calling the lungs of the world. The brazilian rain forest. Not only are we losing forest, we are emitting co2 emissions into the atmosphere. We just had a meeting in semi valley to talk about the impact fires have here in california and the rest of the United States as well as in brazil and other places. 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Im not really concerned because so far to the point you just made, were not really seeing these gaffes reflect poorly for joe biden in the polls. Hes still riding on top. Hes still number one in all the polls. Hes growing his base especially in the key constituencies like the Africanamerican Community and older white voters who tend to be the most reliable voting block in the democratic party. At the same time they are not ideal. I think what it does is remind people of his age and remind people that there is a Younger Generation of candidates who are running in this primary. So far were not seeing this reflect on him. I think people are so worried about beating trump. Democratic primary voters believe joe biden is still the most electable candidate. Thats taking the precedent over any sort of damage that a gaffe could have. This wasnt an isolated incident because biden raised some eyebrows after saying this to voters. I graduated in 1968. My two political heroes were Martin Luther king and bobby kennedy. My senior semester they were both shot and killed pm imagine what would have happened in barack obama had been assassinated about becoming the defacto nominee. What would have happened in america . Those are painting this as questionable judgment by painting this picture. Whats your reaction . I didnt understand why he felt the need to conjure up that memory especially as we have right now white nationalists ann a number of people that have been arrested because they were attempting mass shootings. I dont think its the right imagery. I also think he forgets that the people hes talking to, many young people, they have grown up in 9 11. Were born after 9 11 and have lived with kind of the residuals of that horrific tragedy. They have lived through the great recession. There are horrific things that have happened and School Shootings that young people, millennials, gen x folks have lived through. Im not sure what he wanted to do there. What the correlation was and the imagery. To the point, these gaffes are pr problematic but not a symptom of his age. Hes been doing this his entire career. This is why he adviser tends to out. Thats why hes run three times. The polls are on his side now but his folks should be worried. It doesnt feel like hes strong and has the stamina and energy and the heart that he once had in this race. Im curious with regard to the president because he is started going after bidens gaffes saying things like hes not playing with a full deck. If this ends up being the president ial matchup in november, how far does that argument take trump especially as his own words and actions are under scrutiny. To answer that question you need the look back at what joe biden said when he announced his run for office. He brought up images of ch charlottesville. It proves the point hes trying to make with his campaign. These things are happening in our country today. Ten mile ts frs from where i li yesterday, the ku klux klan was standing on the street. You wont see him return fire on a lot of these attacks. As far as the age, they are about the same age any way. I dont think that makes a big difference. S can i get all three of you to weigh in on the candidacy of joe walsh. What do you think of this of him jumping into the race. I think its a vanity project at best. This is someone who has called for policing the boarder with alligators and motes if necessary. He was trump before trump. There may be an appetite on the right for primary challenge, its not joe walsh. Danielle. He is actually no better than trump. If his candidacy can pick off some votes here and there then im all for it. Its not like hes offering anything better. Hes just as racist and xenophobic. Last word to you. I agree with the only panelists. I think its a vanity project. Donald trumps Approval Rating is 85 among republicans. 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They see unfortunately now members of the latin excommunity being targeted for violence and shootings and murder. And then they see laws that or at least legislation that has been passed thats sitting on the desk. For instance, and i just have to site as it relates to gun safety, the legislation that would close the charleston loophole and require background checks. Very modest gun safety measures. They see all of this violence taking place in the country and yet as laws and bills move through the house, they see that theyre stuck on the senate desk. And senator Mitch Mcconnell will not do anything because of the Trump Administration saying we dont want to see this take place and its okay to be in the pockets of the National Rifle association. So this is reflecting, i think, the publics view of what has taken place which is very, very sad. I want to pick up on the position of race from the perspective of 2020. Because you have endorsed senator Kamala Harris for president. And yesterday, she spoke at a gala in North Carolina for the Durham Committee on the affairs of black people. She said the termite polit iden politics is the new version of the race card. That term, the race card. The new term is identity politics. People bring it up in a way that is meant to marginalize the subject. In a way that i believe is meant to say, hush. In a way that sometimes is meant to say, shut up. Is she right . Senator harris is absolutely correct. When you look at the Unfinished Business of america, for example. The fact were commemorating this year 400 years of the first enslaved africans being brought to the shores of america. Slavery continuing for over 250 years. Then jim crow for a hundred years. Now what you see in terms of mass incarceration and the huge gaps in the injustices still within our system that are structural in terms of racism. Thats a situation we have to deal with. When you look at the fact that immigrants are being targeted now. And this country is no longer welcoming to countries where people of color come from, that is very terrible. Its tragic. And so thats the Unfinished Business that we must fight for. When you look at the fact that lgbtq individuals are still discriminated against, we have passed the equality act. Thats part of the Unfinished Business. When you look at pay equity when it relates to women and women of color, that gap is still huge. Again, democrats have passed the bills sitting on the senate desk with senator Mitch Mcconnell that would require pay equity for women. Thats not moving anywhere. So there is a heck of a lot of Unfinished Business. And so anyone who says that identity politics or playing the race card is incorrect and inappropriate, they dont recognize this country and care about those who have been marginalized to achieve the american dream. So shes absolutely correct. Weve got to keep fighting and thats one of the reasons im supporting senator Kamala Harris. 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