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People looking in the tt happen assembling in las vegas for a were contributing to our resources have showed up. It has now become part of the political forum. That comes just days after they norm of response to such success. And so i got to tell you. Tangled in the motor city after a second round of debate. Incidents. Im also joined on the phone first prize in todays political by jim kavanaugh, msnbc. Beauty contest, the potential i think jim has a camera so endorsement of the nations then another person came up to well get to jim on cam, a largest Public Employee labor me and said they had a young union. The candidates are expected to former atf analyst. Lady who grew up in the answer questions from Union Community who started in a hey, jim, what does it tell you, workers during that forum. Program that i established years and i just spoke with your notably three candidates are not ago coming from the inner city colleague from the fbi, expected to attend the sin city who is now a medical doctor. Previously, frank, the fact that the atf has been called into this as well . Affair. They are senator kirsten do you think it is as frank come on now. Working at university of suggested evidence of multiple gillibrand, andrew yang and maryland. Agencies working effectively then somebody else came up to me and said, man, weve got our together . Is there anything special because atf is called in as former governor john well . Well, atf and fbi both business started. I think it was connies waffles hickenlooper. Joining me now is vaughn respond a lot of times on gun and chicken. Violence, but what it tells you hilliard. When theyre responding today is vaughn, who do you think has the biggest stack of chips in this its likely not something the inc. Thats the na event . Thats a big question coming officers, the Patrol Division out of the debate in detroit, i think thats the name of it. Can sort out real quick like, but they came up to me and said, you know, im so glad that i you know, a couple of gang alex, especially when you have live in baltimore because it has members shooting each other, 19 candidates during the course made a big difference in my which is not unusual in any city of today. They all have 15 minutes to life. In america. So what i want to say to all and they dont always call out those people, since we have a atf and the fbi for those national audience, come to address about five members. Things. And like frank said, likely you you have nurses, you have baltimore. Correctional officers, you have do not just criticize us but have the sheriffs, the el paso sanitation workers. Essentially where you expect to county sheriff s. W. A. T. Teams there, el paso pd s. W. A. T. , atf see a lot of the focus is on the economy. Thats a focus of the trump has we call it srt but its a campaign is how well the economy come to baltimore and you will s. W. A. T. Team, fbi has s. W. A. T. Is doing, low unemployment be welcomed. Rates. But what the democrats are jesse and danielle, i want so theres plenty of help. Looking to do is essentially set up how the democratic nominee Texas Department of Public Safety and other departments. Could offer a better but what they have to sort out to bring you in on my panel. When you see democrats taking a is whats going on, is it inside alternative, whether that be increase in wages, a 15 minimum swipe at Barack Obamas legacy that walmart, and the task of the commanders, alex, it goes wage. Via joe biden and his candidacy like this on a critical the stock market. Several democratic nominees say incident. As he had been the eightyear its locate the assailant or it goes back to the pocketbooks Vice President for barack obama. How did that make you feel . Personally, its tough to of middle class and low income assailants, isolate them, hear anyone take shots at workers. Thats what you should expect evacuate from behind you areas today. As to who has the upper hand . That are safe and then eliminate president obama. Joe biden will be speaking here the threat. So its locate, isolate, in a little bit, and each of the candidates are making their case its interesting because i really feel like to a certain evacuate, and eliminate. Thats what the commanders are to these members here in las doing right now. Thats what theyre trying to vegas, but most candidates are degree Vice President biden, do. Some of it is personal. And they dont know, you know, going to hold separate events this is his friend and someone is it a false report, is it one who is a leader for him who shooter, is it multiple har picked him and empowered him. Around town, so theyll appear shooters, theyre trying to sort and then shoot off different all that out. Ways, to reno and other parts of i imagine part of his reaction and theyre smart to get all the has to be just a personal las vegas, alex. Help fast because if you dont reaction of, i dont like people need it,l go back, but if they can you tell me how the folks talking about my friend, my there have responded to the boss, this leader. It, its there. Latest debates and particularly part of it is that. What i really want is for the let me ask me phillip menna, Donald Trumps attacks on the Vice President , for really all you mentioned the walmart is democrats, to take a little bit separate from the actual mall legacy . Sure. Of time to think about what it ive heard from people theyre area. How separate are we talking . Means if we take that route of you said theres a parking lot worn out. They noted in that first debate between them, a large parking lot. In other words, im trying to knocking down our last get to the point that if this is there were the focus on the democratic president. Because what we want people to a shooting in the walmart future and what the partys feel is nostalgia about when we platform should be. Had a democratic president , a specifically, is it likely that in the second debate, it was the mall is going to be affected hard for a lot of folks to sit stable presidency, a dignified in terms of security or can it through, saying they felt like be contained . The personal attacks went too presidency, and we want to really dig in on that. If theyre really close, thatco. Far, particularly when it came we dont want people sitting and to the Obama Administration, and the fact that the legacy of the wondering, do i hate everything that every president does . Eightyear president really kind we want them thinking, that since it was so early on, of was drawn into attention. Still developing, i would cordon off not recaution and the part, though, the second barack obama time, that was a good time in america. Yeah. You have to also wonder, only cielo vista mall but part to that answer, though, that i want to say, alex, danielle, a couple things. Theres another area called the several of the folks i just the fact barack obama left talked to here this morning, office with a nearly 60 fountains, which is another area they actually didnt even watch of shopping, shopping area that the debate over there in detroit Approval Rating, you have to there. And i say that to note because wonder how smart it is to even is right across the street from that cielo vista mall. There is still only a few use this tactic. But put that in the context of but if the shooter was inside Million People that actually the walmart, they would have to watched the debate or saw the what were seeing in the racial coverage after it, but for a lot go outside to go into the mall. Of folks, were still five division, that which is generated by the president in months out from the iowa caucus, the last couple weeks. Okay. So theres no connecting tunnel six months out from the nevada this debate fell within that time period. Or walkway. Caucuses and its events like what are your thoughts on that . Since we dont know really how extensive this is, it makes to attack barack obama is thig these where most of these folks all the sense in the world for are union workers, many of them problematic. Its not a good strategy. Them to take the precaution to working the night shift and and i think the blowback that werent anyone to see the shut down the area because it is debates. The Democratic Candidates faced in the immediate vicinity, just so its opportunities like this or seeing them on the local news in the media of the debates, i not connected. That is an opportunity, and the dont think its going to happen yeah. Reason why these candidates are okay. Jim, to you, there is some again. I dont suspect that in here on a saturday in august. September we will see that. Question as to whether, because look, there are plenty of things okay. We dont know, its a single as are you, my friend. Well see you again in another to talk to joe biden about, his hour or so and get an update on whats happening in las vegas. Senatorial record, the crime shooter, multiple shooters. I will say we just look at thanks so much. Were going to discuss this bill, violence against women. Citizen journalists. Its all over the map in terms there are a lot of things to with our panel. Of their reporting or their discuss without going after commenting, i should say. Laura bassett, and reporter for barack obama. Does it make a difference as right now his Approval Rating is youre in your role as a at, like, 95 . Yahoo news and john bassett, profiler the way you approach so i agree with jesse that we Senior Editor at large. Need to be reminding people what something, trying to figure out what brings a shooters when john, looking ahead, who do you think is going to make the next a positive, thoughtful, debate and how critical is you try to analyze the hows and dignified administration looks like. Reaching that point . The whys Something Like this and, you know, and contrast that to the absolutely chaos that unfolds . Well, alex, i was not a were living in right now. Profiler so for democrats on the stage to try and distinguish themselves but how we evaluate that is this by going after barack obama is a thats a good question poor, poor move, because if you is standard situation normal because the debate we saw in poll people now, barack obama late june didnt have much sits very closely in their information you receive that a impact on the race, once you washed out the immediate hearts, and so attack joe biden chaotic scene when youre the on his record. Commander. Effects, Kamala Harris bumped up hes been in Public Office for when you get there, i was a and joe biden bumped down, well special agent in charge for many 30plus years, right . Years, when you get there, its see whether this one has an but dont go after the obama chaos, whether its bombing, administration. Youre not going to win any shootings, all this violence effect. Although the immediate polling points with democrats or going on, and youre used to afterwards suggest it did not. Independents, for that matter, i dont know if its crucial or by doing at. Getting all this information not. Its a losing strategy. Its possible that voters have to the point of chaos that thrown at you. Already, sort of in their minds, sometimes those cases are you make there, is is also, extended and they go over settled on who the top tier multiple killings. Candidates are, maybe a half because of donald trump, dozen of them, the five leading somewhat bleeding into the like the d. C. Sniper or some Republican Party . Bombing campaigns we worked. This will be to you, rick, and poll candidates, harris, you, kurt. So you keep getting information the fact that we have six coming in about the case, and sitting Congress Persons who are its not always right, but you saying, you know what . Buttigieg, biden were out. Know that already. We are not coming back for part of your training. So what the commanders are another round of all of this. Trying to assess here through sam how much, kurt, do you think the s. W. A. T. Teams and through this has to do with the chaos their information of their yeah. They may not be paying attention that danielle was referring to detectives and their 9 11 cen r to the others, but i expect 10 of the last three years . I think it has everything to or 12 to make the stage, and it centers is can we locate and do with it. Will be enough that abc will end lets be very clear here. Isolate those who may be you look at the last two weeks, responsible if this truly is up splitting it into two nights active killing. Trump attacking first the four thats what youre pressing on. The way we have the first two so thats the main thing right now. Minority female women in thats what the commanders are far. But brittany, if you dont congress and then the attack on trying to keep the main thing. Make the cut for the september i know the sheriff of el paso. Debate, does that mean youre i traveled with him when he was dropping out soon . Elijah cummings, is it any chief of police of el paso pd, thats a really good surprise that black members of question. I think it really depends on the congress said, i dont want to richard wiles. Run for reelection. Im sure his Tactical Team is there. Candidates wealth. I dont want to spend the next im sure a lot of deputies are years of my life having to there. Theyre going to have the man marianne williams, if she defend these things, being and woman power to stop it, but, doesnt qualify, she n asked, do you agree with the president that these are alex, walmart is main street in think its worth the investment. Attacks . America anymore. Or someone like john delaney who do you believe hes racist . And if you want to get a crowd do you want to speak out for the is on the edge. Republican party or not . On a saturday, just like the hes personally wealthy so he this is a guy who, by the way, a reporter was saying, you go to may say, you know what, i dont couple weeks ago was dubbed one need the debates. Im going to show my score on of the few people of the facebook, on instagram with an Republican Party and now hes walmart. Im not surprised it could be an taking his ball and leaving it ambitious digital push. I dont need that. Because he doesnt want to deal active shooter. I can campaign in smarter, more with it anymore, and he were not even in the shadow of certainly wont be the only one. Digital ways to reach an i think in august well see a gilmore, california, another lot of members of congress increasingly Democratic Base who arent watching tv. Spending time at home with their crowd. The garlic festival last good point there. Districts, with their families, sunday. Thats right. And, you know, the police so, laura, all the talk of the with their constituents and stopped the guy, they fired on really thinking, gosh, is this him, turned the focus on them. Last debate was the democrats worth it . Is this what i want my life, my his fatal shot was a shot by his attacking joe biden using the legacy to be about . Own hand to his mouth, according because when we look at the to the coroner of gilroy, but it administration record. Do you think thats a function of having so many candidates, attacks against coupummings in was the Police Officers who and do you think that falls away baltimore and you look at stopped him and probably knocked somewhat as the field narrows republicans, theyre going to be him down with their gun fire. Down . I think it has a lot to do judged right now about whether they stand up against it or but it hasnt really if a with the fact that biden has whether they dont. Been the clear frontrunner up to will they show up when it person is thinking about doing this point. Matters most . And bind, every other word i think a lot of these people an act like that, that is very fresh in their mind, and i uttered out of his mouth is are deciding that its a lot easier for them to just go away. Think, you know, the word obama. The thrust of his campaign so copycat to me is a cheap world, how much do you think, rick, far has been tying himself to alex, we all use it and throw it obamas record and saying, well, this has to do with the tenor of arnold, but the mental aspect of obama picked me for his vice this is deeper than just a things, the attack on elijah president. In order for these candidates to go after biden, and that is cummings and the racism that the copyc copycat. Its people that are somehow ultimately who theyre trying to president has been accused of beat right now, theyre not throughout his years in office . Trying to beat trump right now, involved in a movement or it has everything to do with theyre trying to beat biden. So i think it does make sense theres something in their mind or some troubled individual and people look at the age of they see this stuff, they read that theyre going after the about it on the webs, they get a Obama Administrations record. I do think its unfortunate for Elijah Cummings who in his own little radicalized, just like remarks talked about hes toward frank said in his oped. The Democratic Party in general the end of his own life. Because i think voters would this is exactly the progression, like to see the voters go after trump and not barack obama. You know, that we saw in isis t i think republicans have been a he lived under racial tensions bit more smart about that. You dont see them going after not only in his city but in washington, d. C. And los angeles reagan. Influence. You remember the blind chic and they lionize raegan and they do the cases where and the city of new york, and the opposite with obama. Those were bad days. They were just agents of the president brings those influence that al qaeda would john, essentially the polls spread across the are showing nobody has changed things up and it reminds people of a place we dont want to go throughout a number of polls right now. Back to, that things are is is there reason to believe that thnders, there racism . Yes. Warren, harris, buttigieg. But do we want to go back to those types of days . Is hope realistically lost for no, we dont, and the president brings those up and its the rest of the field . Hurtful. For the democrats to attack barack obama, its really what do we see for cory maniacally stupid. Booker . Its disqualifying. He had the best night, i think, africanamericans not just out of the second debate. Africanamericans, but his if he moovves up a little bit, Approval Rating is so high amone that shows you where hes at. The nominee unless you have support of africanamericans, if not, its very important for the news media and voters to and thats true in baltimore track a large number of where more than half the candidates. We have some very wellknown Democratic Base is people. Africanamerican. Think about this. Biden, Bernie Sanders was with in 2016 the africanamerican warren as well. Vote in michigan, wisconsin and so if people cant process pennsylvania, so think about information from the new people. Cities like philadelphia and Steve Bullock just got in, was milwaukee and detroit, it was in on the debate for the very down. First time. The participation was about 56 . Does he get a bump . He performed incredibly on the four years before that, it was stage. If he doesnt get a bump, if at 66 . Cory booker doesnt get a bump, so thats the difference between winning and losing. I think that will tell us this thats the difference between a thing is pretty static. So brittany, for including racist president and not having cory booker, can anyone beyond a racist president. That group catch biden . And so that is the key vote and i think that its going to be a really tough uphill battle, why you would want to attack because were talking about not someone that they hold in high only recognition but campaign regard and rightfully so is finance. If they cant outrange joe biden beyond me. I agree with danielle, its probably not going to happen again. I think they all figured that or Bernie Sanders, its going to out. Yeah, and as if all had be tough to say, im better for happened a couple weeks ago and you than the Vice President that everything in the wake of that was linked to president obama. I do want to say a lot of was not enough, can we put up established democrats really the tweet from the president laud obama. I think he has something in the that was calling out the north 90s Approval Rating from the establishment, and the aca burglary at Elijah Cummings has something of a low 80s house a week ago. Approval rate. Those are pretty ambitious really bad news, the baltimore numbers. I just wanted to add, i think house of Elijah Cummings was robbed. Theyre counting not on too bad. The president has tried to necessarily catching joe biden backtrack that, but when that but biden falling down. Went out, what was your reaction he had a bad debate the first to that, jesse . Debate. Do you think as the president he was better in this one but he was not a strong debater. Says now, he was saying, come but he bounded back. On, i was saying it was really he bounded back but he was too bad. Thats adorable. Not outstanding on the stage, he im not surprised by anything was better. I think the hope of people is anymore, and honestly, hes that joe bidens support is broad but shallow. If he stumbles and leaves, then forfeited the benefit of the there is a vacuum potentially doubt at this point, so i dont for some of these pod rats, give him that. But i do give representative klobuchar, bullock and others, to move up. Cummings all the spotlight he all three of you, laura, wants after this. So if he wants to keep shining a brittany, john, stay with us. Were going to get to some other light on baltimore, lets keep news and come back with you. It there and lets keep folks new this hour, two major flowing to the city. Including me, im going to plan political stories to share. A trip there as soon as i can. Next up, news about the future danielle, your thoughts on of the Republican Party in congress after six house that tweet as well and the republicans announced they are not seeking reelection, and that thought we should all take a trip. Maybe we should take a road trip includes texas congressman will to baltimore and do the show hurd, the only black republican from there. In the house. I think we should. That leaves senator tim scott as look, the president is the only remaining republican despicable. Hes a horrible human being, and black member of congress. In a new interview, hurd spoke to me that tweet is trying to about the diversity problem incite some type of violence, facing the gop. I think the Republican Party some type of harm to elijah can be more diverse. Tim and i shouldnt be the only cummings. If thats what you think about your base, that this is what africanamericans in the Republican Party. Plays with them, the base should ive met people throughout this be insulted. Those people should be insulted country that come from all walks instead of cheering him on at of life and our message does rallies. Does he think that were stupid, resonate. And i do believe that we can that we dont know that his too make our message resonate with bad was sarcastic . Folks of all walks of life. He doesnt care about Elijah Cummings, he doesnt care about the people of baltimore and he ive proven that over my few terms in congress, and im shows that day in and day out. Looking forward to taking those i shake my head and i say, yes, lessons and the tactics, everyone should go to baltimore. We should do a roadshow. Techniques and procedures that everyone should show up in that we developed to take a conservative message to all walks of life. City. Its a beautiful city. And just disregard the president also developing today, some new comments from the congressman who put democrats because hes despicable. Past that halfway mark is now a im going to speak out to my majority of house dems support boss yvette and say, we should and impeachment inquiry. Go out on the road and support it. I want to thank all four of you guys for some really thoughtful, ali velshi asked congressman interesting, great conversation with just the right tone from all of you. Danielle, rick, jesse, kurt, you guys, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks, alex. Carbajal what drove his so the fbi warning and the decision. To actually hear the testimony, but to see time and time again the fact that this qanon slogan that turned up at a president and this administration have ignored all trump rally. The subpoenas put forth by were going to make sense of that if we can, next. Congress, i think is ultimately what did it. I think as democrats we could can, next pursue an impeachment inquiry and still focus on the bread and butter issues that the American People and the residents of my district want us to focus on. Fill up for the chance to win free fuel for a year. Congressman carbajal said he recently told nancy pelosi that thats one of thousands of prizes in the shell great gas giveaway he was thinking of supporting an fuel rewards members are automatically impeachment inquiry. Speaker pelosi is again entered when they fill up at shell. Defending the focus of legal battles saying, no present or future president can dishonor the oath of Office Without being held accountable. Also new today the president tweeting on chinese trade talks. Lets go to hans nichols. Hes following the president. Hes in brooklyn heights, new jersey today. Hans, good morning to you. What else is the president saying . Reporter alex, its more what the president is doing, and hes doing two things. Hes defending his approach to slapping additional tariffs on chinese goods. Those would take place september 1. But hes also preparing the country and the markets for a prolonged trade war. When you look at the president s rhetoric, this morning is just another example of him indicating that this fight could go on for a long time. Fuel rewards members are automatically cake in the Conference Room showing em youre ready. To be your own boss. He said, things are going we well with china. Thats the beauty of your smile. Crests three dimensional whitening. Theyre pig us tens aying us te. Removes stains,. Whitens inbetween teeth. Millions of dollars, made. And protects from future stains. Possible by their monetary crest. Healthy, beautiful smiles for life. Devaluations and pumping in massive amounts of cash to keep their system going. No help from the fed. So the president is complaining about George Powell for not lowering Interest Rates faster and doing it on a steeper slope. But really, if you look at what the president is trying to do, hes indicating this next round of tariffs, which is going to be some 300 billion this gooin goo that will hit consumers a little more, the basket hes trying to go for, hes trying to say consumers wont feel that. But heres the thing, alex. The mucma fest of summer. Consumers are smart. Country musics biggest stars perform their hottest hits. They know when prices go up or down, and well see if china is and the first time ever. Lil nas x, Billy Ray Cyrus and keith urban using cheat money to carry the perform the hit old town road. Cma fest sunday 87c on abc. Charge to american consumers. And after the show check out a special encore performance of john, tweeting that china is brett youngs song, catch. Paying for the tariffs, thats available only on xfinity. Not true. Just say brett young into your x1 voice remote. In fact, its entirely false. Where does the truth lie . What the president is saying is ridiculous and everyone knows it. The Chinese Government or chinese businesses are not paying these tariffs. These tariffs are levied when people import chinese goods and theyre paid by the people importing the chinese goods. If thats walmart, walmart either has to decide whether or not theyre going to accept the hit and reduce their profit marge margins or pass the cost on to consumers. All the evidence suggests theyre passing it on to consumers, many of whom are trump voters. Yes, its true, we do not have high rates of inflation but there are a lot of things that go into the overall inflation rates. Take individual products like washing machines, which were affected by the early steel and aluminum tariff. Those prices have gone up. So, no, what the president is saying is absolutely false, and all economists know it, republican and democrat, and the question is whether or not voters are going to tolerate that, especially the people that donald trump is trying to get to turn out and vote for him next year. Especially if prices are going up on things they need to buy. What about you, brittany, in terms of any indication whether Real Progress is being made in. At a quarter past the hour, china with these talks, or is lets go to the gathering since there just no resolution in this weeks debate. Sight . Steve bullock is now speaking well, weve seen this with there on stage. Hes one of 19 democratic the president before. He tries to make ambitious deals president ial candidates who descended on las vegas. About trade with china or the topics, beauty contest, the mexico, and he reports that labor union. Those deals kind of fizzle or notably three candidates ant materialize in the last hour. Expected to attend this forum. So i think we should take what the president is tweeting with a grain of salt. Its unclear to me that well in just the last hour, julian see this resolve in the trump castro answered president s from administration in their favor. Laura, as you know, 118 this forum. And senator warren was asked how she would transition to a democrats calling for impeachment. Program of medicare for all. But heres the reality check. The transition, as i see it, you think thats a tipping is the unions are at the table. Point, or is this a real number that is going to grow as a nobody does anything without result of what congressman working people well represented. Carbajal said, which is that hes listening to his [ applause ] you bet. There are a lot of folks who are constituents and theyre coming in a lot of different positions at him and saying, why arent in terms of health care plans. And what matters most is we get you supporting impeachment . Everybody at the table to figure twothirds of impeachment, a out how everybody gets fully congress is hearing them. Thats why this number keeps compensated for what theyve growing. It was 95 a month ago, now its negotiated for. 118. Joining me now from las i think its going to come down to leadership. Vegas, nbcs vaughn hillyard. Its going to come down to nancy pelosi. As of now, she does not want to move on impeachment. Talk about this day so far, how she thinks its going to be the candidates are really stepping up and following the politically detrimental to the debate, putting forth their democrats if he doesnt end up being knocked out of office, ideals as being questioned now by the union workers. Its going to make trump reporter exactly, alex. Stronger in his base. I think the most interesting thats pelosis perspective and part so far what weve heard she holds the cards here. From these candidates is almost ultimately its whether they can change the leaders mind. Called a correction of course its an interesting time after the debates the other day during this august recess just how much the constituents tell in which the obama their representatives, we want administration, the policies of to pursue it. The Obama Administration, there well see. Laura bassett, brittany was a sharp eye on them particularly of the candidacy of shepherd, john harwood, good to see you guys. Vice president joe biden. Thank you. Thank you. Elizabeth warren was asked about well see if the tide is the Obama Administrations indeed turning on impeachment, legacy, and she says its no and later, making sense for surprise you can go to the medicare for all and the best Public Record and there are areas of difference between her way to reach 100 coverage for and the obama ai ultimately whe americans. Came down to it, she had the a Health Care Expert will join idea of the Consumer Protection us. A Health Care Expert will jon us whats up with your. Partner . Bureau and she said the obama not again. Limu thats your reflection. Administration went through and created the bureau. I want to play for you a little only pay for what you need. Bit of sound, though, because liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty Julian Castro also took the stage this morning and he had been critical of the Obama Administration and its deportation policies. This is what he said just a little bit ago. The administration got better over time on immigration, right . I joined the administration in july of 2014. By that time, and through the end of the administration, as you all know, what happened is the number of deportations went down. So i think it made improvement over time, but there are lessons we can learn, right . This is not about criticizing president obama, this is about, okay, what does the next administration have to do in the face of a President Trump that is absolutely terrible . There is no comparison between obama and trump. Reporter i also just asked Julian Castro, the former head secretary there, about the debate and kind of the squabbles that went back and forth between candidates,nde he said he felt like candidates were rewarded in this debate when they called another candidate by name, because it gave that candidate time to respond. He said those who wanted to talk policy and substance, they were not the benefactors of the form of debate. Alex . I want to give you a breaking news story were following in el paso, texas. Were getting an alert from the El Paso Police department that says, active shooting. Stay away from sierra vista m l mall. Scene is still active. Its in the middle of hawkins pirate girl ahoy and gateway east. Gotcha girl nooooooooooooo theyre warning everyone to stay man nooooo away from the sierra vista mall vo quick, the quicker picker upper area. Were trying to get some bounty picks up messes quicker, information. And is two times more absorbent. 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Do you think the tide has turned on impeachment and will it continue going this direction . I think this will be a long month for my democratic colleagues to be back in their district listening to their constituents. A lot of them will be talking about impeachment. Still talking about the bread and butter issues in the legislation that were passing out of the house. Still talking about constituent services, but i still think the most common theme will be about impeachment. So members of your party, theyre debating the time lines here, and i know you have this new oped and im looking at it. You wrote this about wait and indict trump when hes out of office . No, start impeachment inquiry now. Youre reminding the readers that the statute of limitations for obstruction of justice is just five years. Explain to the viewers why five years is so crucial. Well, the old criminal defense attorney in me probably came out as i was questioning the special counsel. And i raised this issue. Bottom line, the Justice Department policy says you cant indict a seated president. It is very clear thats the reason the special counsel didnt indict the president for obstruction. Well, if you follow that logic, a president who serves a second term of eight years will be able to outserve the statute of limitation. It is impossible for me to imagine that the founding fa a system in which the president of the back with this breaking United States was above the law, news, everyone. Look at that tweet from the el and if he had his own party Paso Police Department. There was an active shooting, to stay away from the sierra vista control of the senate, in a hyperpartisan world, he knew he could be above the law. Mall areament its the area of so back to this tough, long month of august that youve talked about and that you know your colleagues, yourself, will be facing your constituents. Cielo vista mall area. If you have many of them its an active scene. Clamoring for impeachment, can were getting all sorts of information here but none of it they not listen to the voters who put them into office . Has been confirmed. I mean, will your colleagues until we get information about then support at least an inquiry potential injuries or specific locations, welcome on the air when they get back in september . And give that to you. Id like to think they would but right now im going to get if only for strategic reasons, joined about another issue which is domestic terrorism right now right . I think the strategy used in in terms of two reports that are raising concerns on that topic. Watergate was an impeachment there is an internal fbi report. Inquiry. It spells out the crimes and it was published by yahoo news misdemeanors, it provides the Necessary Authority the committees would need to get the in which it warns that conspiracy theories pose a new subpoenas answered, and i think it would give us a real boost in the courts to help us with all domestic terrorism threat. The fights that are taking place right now to get the records, to joining me now, malcolm na nati get the subpoenas answered and to get people to testify. I know chairman nadler judiciary intelligence, head of a has said that were sort of in a terrorist project. And director for de facto impeachment inquiry mode now. Counterintelligence and nbc well, were still battling with all our weapons, and i think an National Security analyst. Guys, were going to talk about impeachment inquiry would help what i brought you on to talk us toward that end. Look, we know where you about, but as soon as i get information about el paso that i stand. You wrote the oped about it. Can confirm, im going to feed how about your constituents . That to you as well and get some what are they telling you . Insights. Frank, with regard to the new i think my constituents here in the north side of chicago and york times oped, you said that the near west suburbs are very instinct and experience tell me concerned that this president is were headed for trouble in the unfit for office and that hes form of white hate violence committed high crimes and misdemeanors. I think everyone understands stoc stoked by a racially violent that there is political reasons president. Give me your backup on this. What do you have . That the speaker of the house is i did not take lightly my concerned about and that she can decision to put pen to paper my count votes in the senate. For me, at some point in time concerns. As malcolm can attest to, given the ongoing obstruction of anybody who is in the intel this administration, its Time Community post 9 11 understood for him to face the music. The shift toward pushing out intel when you sense a threat. Everyone needs to be held and i do sense a threat because accountable. This is a man, as president of the United States, who has never im increasingly seeing been held accountable for his parallels between what we see in sins in his entire lifetime. Islamic radicalization online t can i ask you a hypothetical here . Lets say the house were to pursue an impeachment inquiry and eventually get to a point where he ththey take a vote on d the president is impeached in the house. What about the prospect of not sending that on to the senate knowing full well it would fail and making record, something the president couldnt take away as being a blemish on his record, somethi election, that he had been impeached in the house of representatives. Is that viable . I see that as an option, but i do think that watergate is, again, a great history lesson, right . Barry goldwater, i think, was the turning point for Richard Nixon to resign. And it was only after those long hearings took place and all of congress was educated and informed as to what took place. It wasnt until those hearings that we learned that there were secret tapes taking place in the oval office, which is actually what sunk president nixon. So i do think the hearings would provide an opportunity well beyond what we saw with the special counsel muellers hearing, brief hearing, that took place. This is important stuff. Right now adam schiff and mr. Nadler are trying the best they can as chairman of those two committees to get this information from the american public. I do think this impeachment inquiry will help us, and hopefully help us organically, as we say, with constituents moving the senators as well. Let me get, quickly before i let you go, to the director of National Intelligence post. You have the president who picked John Ratcliffe of texas. The president blaming the media for it, but intel Officials Say ratcliffe is a relatively disengaged member of the committee. He has yet to take part in one of the committees overseas trips to learn more about spy agencies work, and its unclear if he spent time at the cia or dni headquarters. You worked with ratcliffe. Was he qualified to be dni . I think he was a smart person as a prosecutor, but that doesnt qualify you for the important position of dni. I think mr. Coats understood how important it was, and while i would have disagreed thoroughly with mr. Coats and his role when he served in congress, ill say this. He served with integrity. And he worked to build the relationships, and thats the role there. You have to understand the different agencies involved, all 17, and how they need to work together. This is critical to keep us safe as that entity was created after 9 11 to break through these silos, to share information to keep us safe. I think ive been in about 15 committees to share in the intelligence committee, and its important to know how our allies are doing, how that information is shared. I think it takes a wide band of experience and institutional memory. Mr. Mueller was part of the krircia for 33 years. Most others have served much longer. The law actually dictates you have experience. Clearly the president was looking for something else. He was looking for someone who was going to be abjectly loyal. That is the opposite of what you need. You need a smart, experienced person who takes the nations ones dont. M doable, which ones dont security first, not whatever the president of the United States is dictating. Yeah. We should make that point of mueller with the fbiweekend. Good to see you. You, too. Thank you. Making ones seem doable, wh we all use our phones differently. I can manage the time they spend on their phone, who theyre texting with, all of that. 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I think hes motivating people like myself, middleaged africanamericans and many of whom didnt vote and dont vote. And he is allowing the democrats to turn them, particularly africanamerican women, into a formidable weapon to give a backlash. Because we see whats going on, we dont particularly like it. Yeah. Frank and malcolm, guys, youve heard about the breaking news about the active shooting in el paso, texas. Im going to ask you both to stay with us as we take a break. Were trying to get more information on this. But we want everyone to watch the information coming out of the El Paso Police department. There is an active shooting in the cielo vista mall area. We can also tell you the kcbm affiliate is responding. They are on the scene there as well. Needless to say a lot of terrifying thoughts being experienced by people in that area right now. Stay with us. Were going to take a short break and get more information on this and bring back our guests and discuss it. 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The clash of medicare for all is complex, but if we simplify it, 2020 president ial candidates can be pretty much divided into three camps. Those who want a singlerun government plan with no private options, senator sanders, warren, mayor de blasio in that camp, and then on the other end, joe biden wants to fix obamacare and have a public option. In the middle you have dems with some sort of health care with varying editions of what should happen with private insurance. It would take place immediately. There would be a public plan under my plan for medicare and a private plan for my plan of medicare. It will be ten years of a transition. We everhave a dysfunctional Health Care System, 87 million uninsured. Im not going to support a plan that rips away Quality Health care from individuals. Were not talking about taking away health care from anyone. Im not sure why anyone goes to the trouble of running for president of the United States just to talk about what we cant do and shouldnt fight for. As we said, it is complex. Were going to go inside the Health Care System with Wendell Porter who worked for two decades with two big Insurance Companies. With a welcome to you, wendell, as we look at your experiences as former Health Insurance but its not really something yoyou want to buy. Executive, id like your its not sexy. Assessment on the proposals to oh delicious. Get rid of private coverage. Or delicious. Is that plausible . Or fun. Do you think it would increase the quality of Health Insurance . I have no doubt that it would. One of the things you need to but since you need both car and home insurance, keep in mind as were talking why not bundle them with esurance and save up to 10 . About the debates so far, i would argue were seeing the which you can spend on things you really want to buy, like ah candidates divide themselves into two camps, those who are saying that the Current System well i dont know what youd wanna buy cause im just a guy can be fixed and those who are on your tv. Saying that it just cant. Esurance. Its surprisingly painless. And im in the former camp. Weve got a system that over the years was built largely by the Insurance Companies and others who make a lot of money off our Health Care System, theyve created this kind of goldberg type of contraption that is a moneymaking machine, and nine years ago when the Affordable Care act was passed, lawmakers decided, we just have to keep that rubegoldberg contraption going because its too hard to get rid of it. You see sanders and warren saying, no, we have to get rid of it. I agree with that because we cannot fix this. We have the most expensive Health Care System in the world and one that is costing middle 36 past the hour. Class families and businesses what we know in el paso, there more and more every year. Theyre the ones who are is an active shooting and the disadvantaged to the most part Police Department is asking everyone to stay away from this with our Health Care System. We just cannot continue to go cielo vista mall area. We may be getting more on. We can build a system in which information from a couple sources, one being 12 news radio you have quality coverage, the benefits that we really need, no restrictive networks that are imposed on us by Insurance Companies, and no Insurance Company bureaucrat standing between us and our doctors. Wali cites a s. W. A. T. Team going that can be achieved. And we can do it and spend less money than were paying private to that area. This is the first time a news Insurance Companies right now. So you agree with warren and entity is saying that they have gone to a walmart in el paso, sanders. You think theyre the ones that have the best proposals at this texas. Point. I do. Again, according to 1200 what is it that you think can take from where we stand right newsradio woli. We should say that the walmart now, which is about 990 of were able to find is about. 8 americans being covered with Health Insurance to 100 . Of a mile away from this cielo what has to make up that 10 vista mall area. That said, that tweet from the difference . 10 doesnt sound like a whole lot. El Paso Police Department may when you really look at that, thats almost 30 Million People. Have been their original message to get out to citizens in the thats a lot of people. Also not included in that are a community and say stay away from growing number, millions and this entire area. Millions more, who were again, an active scene there. Underinsured, people who were paying good money every month im going to be joined by evan m for Health Insurance and getting less and less for it. Theyre in high deductible plans. People need to be more and more aware of just how much theyre time ago at a town hall meeting paying for lousy coverage. I think senators sanders and warren are making a pretty good put on by Veronica Escobar there compelling case for that. In el paso. Advocates need to do the same evan, join me on the phone and thing. Tell me what happened there. Wendell, youre making a i know youre not necessarily near to where they say there is point where you hear a lot of the time people do have health an active shooting, but tell me insurance, but a lot of it is what happened. Yeah, hi. Unaffordable for them because of the high deductibles. So we were at a town hall what is it that can be done to meeting for Veronica Escobar, make what you have more representative from el paso affordable . Here. She took over for beto orourke who is the culprit, if you will, for making it not affordable for after he left to run for senate. She was doing the scheduled town people . Insurance companies and their hall. Everything was normal. Executives. That was one of the big reasons i decided to leave my job at cigna in the first place, and she was talking to staff because i was expected to be a cheerleader for these with microphones and said the highdeductible plans. Town hall had to shut down i left as this strategy was taking hold. Because police had heard about over the years, more and more of us are in these plans to the an active shooter in the area which was obviously the other point that the Commonwealth Fund side of town where this mall is. Says that 42 of people who get we were at a place called corado their coverage through the Obamacare Exchanges are now high school, on the other side underinsured because of these of town where this shooting is high deductibles. People who get their coverage allegedly taking place. So the police shut down the town through the workplace, now about a third of them almost are now hall because all local Law Enforcement was sent to the scene of the shooting, meaning they were no longer there to underinsured. Protect the town hall. That is because Insurance Company executives said many got it. So she had to leave, years ago the problem with our Health Care System is americans everybody had to leave. I spoke with her briefly on the dont have enough skin in the way out of the town hall on what game. They need to pay more for their care out of their own pockets she had heard from police was before we, as an insurance multiple victims and that it was company, will start paying for their care. Thats where it started and an ongoing situation. Thats whats going on. She returned to her district thats what has to end. Office in downtown el paso where i am now where shes going to Wendell Porter, youre going be briefed further. To have to come back again but we were there just sort of for the exact moment that because i do appreciate the everybody in this town hall found out about this, and most clarity youre bringing to a interestingly, i thought, was there was so much calmness. People just sort of got up and very complex system. Thank you very much. Kind of filed out and went to Elijah Cummings is still their cars and were talking speaking. A short time ago, this is what about the town hall and talking about councilwoman escobar and he had to say. I thank you all for being sort of headed out. Here, and i want you to keep now were all just waiting for investing in baltimore. Let me say one more thing since more information like everyone else is, but, you know, its we have the National Press here, and i hope they dont just just kind of reporting in america in 2019, i guess. Concentrate on me but concentrate on this park. Yeah. I was going to ask you about i want people to come to your interpretation on that and im going to do so in a second. Baltimore. We are a great city. We really are. Do you know where, because you were the first person we really are. Articulating on our air here, evan, that there have been [ applause ] multiple victims. We dont know how that if you want to know about description plays out, but do you know from whom she got that baltimore, read the sun paper. Information, the congresswoman, where she got that information . Read it, the last few editions. She told me that the Police Someone came to me yesterday and had told her multiple victims. Said, you know what . Until all this controversy came huh. That is unconfirmed by us and up, i didnt know how great we were. I didnt know how many people it was just directly from the were contributing to our congresswomans mouth to my ears and now to your ears. Success. And so i got to tell you then i will say were getting from the El Paso Fire Department to couple with what weve heard from the Police Department, our another person came up to me and viewers are seeing now the new tweet saying, avoid the area of said that they had a Young Hawkins and gateway until lady who grew up in the further notice. The Police Department responding community who started in a program that i established years to an active shooter incident in the area. So the Fire Department actually ago coming from the inner city trying to help get the message who is now a medical doctor. Out to keep citizens away from that area. Come on, now, working at about how far were you guys away at this town hall from this Area University of maryland. In el paso . Then somebody else came up to me and said, man, weve got our do you know, evan, el pass owell . I dont know it that well. Ive spent the last few days business started. With councilwoman escobar i think it was waffles and because part of her job is trying to change the perception of the border politics going on chicken. I think thats the name of it. Down here, so they brings but they came up to me and said, members of congress down. She just had a large codell you know, im so glad that i live in baltimore because it has made a big difference in my members of congress down here on life. So what i want to say to all the border the last couple days those people since we got a looking at i. C. E. Facilities and national audience, come to Border Patrol facilities. Baltimore. They all have left. They left yesterday, so ive do not just criticize us, but been spending time with her. Im not super familiar with el come to baltimore and i promise paso, but i am aware that we are you, you will be welcomed. I promise you we will give you every bit of hospitality weve bachkly basically on the other side of town from where this shopping got. Because every time you come to area is and where this alleged walmart is. We havent confirmed that, baltimore, every time you spend either. But i will say the congresswoman a few dollars in a hotel, that was briefed on scene and has now means somebody in this neighborhood is working. Returned to her office to be it gives them a job. Briefed further on the issue, it gives them hope. And like i said, what we know is and finally, let me say this. Reports from the police and there are not many things that feed my soul. Congresswoman that there are i do not have time for people multiple victims and all Law Enforcement in the area, which is significant in el paso who want to trash our city. Because so many agencies that work there have been called to but i do have time for our kids. The scene of this active shooter situation. Yeah. And again, what were getting and i tell you, the more i have from 1200 news radio woli that seen, larry, over the last few specifically a number of s. W. A. T. Teams have all focused and converged on a walmart there days, i have just been floored by the number of people who have in el paso. There are probably a few given come to me and are encouraging the size of that city. Me. I swear this is not a day that look, evan, i want you to, before i let you go, and thank goes by without me getting about a thousand emails of support. You for being with us through this. The comment that you made, that you observed everybody leaving dont get me wrong, i get a few calmly, of course thats what of them from out of town, but you want. You do not want people to panic unnecessarily. The fact is that i want to thank but you say that it spoke in your mind to a broader baltimore. Sentiment. Talk about that. Finally, a lot of people say why well, look, im in texas. Do you love baltimore so much . I love baltimore so much because this is Second Amendment country my mother and father were in down here. In fact, just a question or a question or two before this manning, South Carolina when they got married at 18. Announcement was made ending the they made a decision to come to press conference i mean, baltimore when they got married because they wanted a better ending the town hall, excuse me, life for their children. One of the locals got up and and they came to baltimore, and talked to congresswoman escobar about how hes a gun owner, proud gun owner, and guns are my mother delivered me and my important to him, but hes six brothers and sisters at the concerned about the gun laws in the country right now because he university of maryland. Says kids are more important than guns. Come on now. And he was personally concerned my father got a job at grace about the number of firearms and chemical lifting heavy drums and breathing chemicals for 45 the way the firearms laws work years. My mother was a domestic, and the laws that are in texas. Cleaning houses in guilford and this had nothing to do with the roland park, just like mayor event we were there for, but gun politics are a big part of the youngs mother did. Conversation here on a number of levels, and the fact that a lot of people here own and enjoy 27. 27 in coffand coffee is wha firearms, several people are concerned about the number of firearms, and to have that got. I think about the idea that they conversation happen with a sacrificed so much to give me congresswoman directly before this opportunity. The act of an active shooter so it is an honor let me say that again. Sort of led most people who have it is an honor let me say it heard this story so many times one more time. Of active shooters, theyve it is an honor to be associated heard it on tv and radio, it with all of these good people. Happens so much in our society, it is an honor that they have to just kind of get up and come to make a difference. Calmly leave, get back in their they dont come criticizing. Cars and go about their day was they come trying to makeame a pretty interesting moment for me, i thought. Hundreds of organizations, there i can totally see why you feel that way. Are hundreds of thousands, Evan Mcmorris santoro with sight probably, of people who come to me and they say, little basebal. Were trying to find a few dollars for it so that we can go news. On a little trip. Evan, thank you so much. Theyre not trying to get to and for all of you, were going to try to get more information. Disney world, theyre just trying to get to the local park. Weve heard a couple details coming through. So dont waste my pain. Most notably both the fire and dont step on it, dont trample Police Departments in el paso on the pain of our people. Asking citizens to avoid hawkins and with that, i thank you very and gateway. There is also reference to the much and ive got oh, and cielo vista mall area, that there is an active shooting weve got another program where scene. And one more thing from news radio 1200 woli saying they we have decided oh, a lot of are reporting a number of people dont realize this. S. W. A. T. Teams have descended on a lot of people ask the a walmart in that area. Were going to try to get more question, why did the young man information for you. Stay right here with msnbc. On cnn anchor last thursday, why well be right back. Well be right back. And new strawberry summer caprese salad. Did he almost break out in order online for delivery. Tears . He was a young man that came to panera. Food as it should be me almost 20 years ago in my Elijah Cummings Youth Program in israel. A program that i along with the Jewish Community put together 20 years ago. Victor blackwell, im talking about. If you havent seen his piece, you need to see it. 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And unlike sonicare, oralb is the First Electric toothbrush brand sir, what do you want the people of baltimore to know . Accepted by the ada for its effectiveness and safety. I want them to know all what an amazing clean they have to do is read the ill only use an oralb oralb. Sun paper who i think is doing a phenomenal job of correcting brush like a pro. The record, first of all. And i want them to have hope. These little incidents like t s this, you may not think its a big thing, but its a big deal because it brings life to their lives. You know, i have so much to do. You know what i think about, i was thinking about it this morning, of my 23 years in congress, i think i may have gone on five hotels. Im trying to create opportunities for people, because i grew up in an environment just like this, and if i can become phi betta kappa and become a lawyer, they can, too. I have to go. Why do you think the my bladder leak underwear. Orried someone might see so, i switched. 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Difficult and challenging 48 after the hour, and we are circumstances who are now doing following this breaking news of great things. An active shooter in el paso, i tell you, it feedsthis is wha. Texas. Specifically according to the el so i dont have time for my Paso Police Department asking citizens to stay away from the mother used to say you concentrate on the things that cielo vista mall because of the are most important to you, and active shooter incident. We have also gotten reports that these kinds of things are most this is happening at a walmart, important to me. Sir, half the House Democrats have come out now in favor of 1200 news radio woli is impeachment. Is it time to proceed to formal reporting that there is a walmart at which s. W. A. T. Teams proceedings . Thats a very good question. Have descended on the area. You know, ive said first of were also getting a report that all, im very clued in to what there is news of both atf and fbi having been dispatched to is going on with regard to the scene of the shooting. It is something that is leading impeachment. El paso residents, no doubt, and and i agree with nancy pelosi. The rest of us as we watch this you have to keep in mind that i unfold pretty terrified with am one of the investigating what is happening there. I want to go to philip mena. Philip is one of my colleagues one that heads up the at msnbc and philip is in el investigative committees. I think her course is the proper and if the administration way. We are doing our research, we are trying to do our jobs, and paso, texas. Disobeys court orders, because i philip, do you know this cielo there may very well come a time vista mall area, and do you know think then we have no choice. If there is a walmart within that wall, or according to a when impeachment me would be wh so well see. Google map that weve seen, one do you think your committee about. 8 of a mile alex. Ignited the president s as a matter of fact, i used to criticism . Work there in high school. Im sorry . It is the busiest of all the do you think your committee ignited the president s malls in el paso, in that area criticism . What do you mean . The committee. That immediately surrounds in i dont know. The parking lot they have thats another great question. I do not know. Restaurants, olive garden, red by the way, to your last lobst lobster, the wal mart as youre speak of. And on saturday afternoon like question, a lot of people this, it is probably the busiest part of el paso at this moment. Okay. Question may question our when you atheres a walmart there, again, were trying to pinpoint different walmarts. Its not inside the actual decision. Remember, i have confidence and mall. Not attached to the mall. But they would share a parking lot and there would be a im trying to be fair. Standalone building. Thats why we need to do our so its not attached to the actual mall. But the people that are coming research. Thats the way it is. Out of the mall and coming out of the walmart would likely one of the things that i want is share the same parking area. To preserve our democracy. Yeah. Okay. Looking at new police tweets, i worry that the democracy that im going to read them to you, we have will not be if we do not phillip. Gateway west at hawkins, police activity, right lane at cielo do something. Vista closed, minor backup, and well do it. And well do what we have to do clearing time until further notice. To address these issues. Saying that the scene is still but im not doing this for active. Avoid this area from airway to hawkins north of i10. Myself at 68 years old and a black man in america. I realize my life is short. How large of an area does this im doing it for generation encompass you think that is number one. Being affected in temples of and thats whats so important. Keeping citizens away and telling people dont come near we want to send people into the this area . Not only is it busy in terms future. I often say our children are the of foot traffic but the i10, the main highway that runs living messengers. Through the city, thats the exit. I mean, its you take that we send to a future we never see. I want to send them strong, bright, healthy, bold and full exit, the cielo vista exit to get to the cielo vista mall, of hope. And so i think, you know, when i that walmart, and one exit over so the airport several miles hear criticism about anybody about my city, i think the thing away but where traffic would that bothers me most is that we funnel into. If theyre coming off any of those exits it would have a have a situation where there are massive impact on anybody trying to get to the mall or the folks who are stepping on the airport from the highway. Yeah. And with regard to this, is it foot and hope of our children. An open air, outdoor mall . If i had i dont know what i is it all enclosed . Would have done if i had people its enclosed. In high places when i was a and you say theres a walmart little boy telling me what i not specifically attached to the couldnt do. Cielo vista mall, but they share instead i had people telling me a parking lot. What i could do. And the other thing, when how big a space is this . Its essentially a plaza somebody asked a question about area. What do i want to say to the community, to the baltimore so its it would have to be community, i want to thank you. Several acres large, including i want to thank the johns the mall, with that, because hopkins of the world. Like i said, there are so many i want to thank the under armour standalone businesses that surround the mall. Of the world. They give to programs like this yeah. So its a large shopping on a weekly basis, on a monthly center and cielo vista mall just happens to be the hub. Basis. I want to thank the weinberg as another major cities, in other cities you have the mall and there are other suburban foundation, so many foundations areas they have restaurants and and all those people who have targets and walmarts, best buys helped us to make sure that our and what not right around there. Children grow up to be all that this is a imsituation. Im going to ask the control they can be. Thats it. Booth, phillip, to take a look at ktsm. Thank you. We are getting some information from there, our nbc affiliate. There you have it. Want to know if we can go with Elijah Cummings, congressman of this information and spread that baltimore there initially at the out there. Lets try to confirm that when dedication of a nature play we can as soon as possible. Space there in downtown baltimore. But you see him there with very let me bring frank into the conversation as well with me. Heartfelt, thoughtful responses so frank, if you have atf and to the controversy that was generated by President Trump fbi tell you . Attacking not only his muchbeloved city, you saw that in his words, his smile and his eyes as he talked about baltimore, but also attacking Elijah Cummings himself personally. A way to turn around a controversy and make it work for you. We have a bunch of people joining me to talk about this right now. Ive got daniel moody mills, sirius xm, kurt bardella, spokesman of the Oversight Committee. That is of course Elijah Cummings committee of which he chairs right now. Nbc news political analyst rick tyler. Hes in the Strategy Group for media, and former obama speechwriter. Guys, what did you think about this . I found it very moving. Elijah cummings speaking with a lot of heart when he talked about his city of baltimore. Jesse, to you first. Do you think his words are effective and do you think now he will have people come to baltimore and try to embrace what this president started in this firestorm . I think it was brilliant. I think Elijah Cummings, if the president wants to shine a light in baltimore, congressman cummings is here for it. Lets go. I think that was exactly what he needed to do to pivot and make sure this isnt just a partisan punching match and to Start Talking about what baltimore really is, which is a beautiful city with deep, resilient people thats headed in the right direction. As a republican, rick, give me your thoughts on what he said. If it really got political or if it was just more honest and heartfelt. I think what we saw Elijah Cummings do there was return with good evil. His city was attacked, the people there were attacked, it was a vicious, ooefevil, racist attack and he turned it around to good to show what the community is really like. Ive been to baltimore. It has a maryland. His district is more affluent than most districts around the United States africanamerican. So when the president wants to attack a city like that, which hes supposed to be president of. Hes t people live, hes the president of all people, and he ended up looking like things i cant say on the air. Mind, danielle, as you were listening to Elijah Cummings . Ive been incredibly moved by Elijah Cummings. The fact is donald trump is a rai ra racist. I used to live around baltimore to enjoy the harbor, to enjoy many areas that baltimore has to offer. What we know to be true about this president is he uses language like rats and rodentinfested to discourage people of color. And baltimore, unlike many of the red states the president wants to lift up, has much higher Median Income and also happens to be 60 africanamerican. When he wants to disparage these places, weve never in our looiflives had a president of the United States do such a thing, to talk so badly about the city in which he is a part of. He is the president , as rick said, of the entire United States and he wants to cherry pick what it is he wants to support which is generally where his base is. Kurt, i want to get your thoughts as well, and also the shoutouts that Elijah Cummings gave to the Baltimore Sun and the fact their reporting specifically refutes the president s claims about baltimore. What weve seen here, alex, is the power of the local media, the media thats close to what the people can have like this. Watching this, ive known Elijah Cummings for the better part of a decade. Ive worked against him with republicans on the Oversight Committee and now as an advocate for the oversight hes conducting. And i tell you, each side of that, hes always been a fair and decent and honest and sincere person. Ive seen time and again republicans stand next to him and applaud him for being so fair, applaud him for being so respectful and being willing to work with them. I tell you, behind the scenes, the relationship between republicans and cummings has always been a good one rooted in respect. Its part of why its so important to me that few have come forward to defend him. I was there when they had the official hanging of my former boss of the Oversight Committee, and cummings showed up and stood next to darrell. Even though they butted heads on tv, he put his arm around him and said, i respect you. Weve had a great relationship. Congratulations for this moment. Ive watched this unfold so frustrated that people havent come forward to defend cummings. I was in baltimore until 3 00 in the morning, actually, at a music concert. And it was so great to see everything going on there. We had a baseball game going on, we had a Country Music concert going on, you had people of color, white people, rednecks, all together in the same downtown area enjoying this city, and cummings is absolutely right, that it is a remarkable, resilient and amazing place, and i hope people heed his message to come visit there. Kurt, was that last night you were there until 3 00 in the morning . Yes, sir, i was there with a bunch of rednecks. I have to say that kurt brings up a very good point. Where have republicans been on this . Why have they not stood forth and been more president . Because they dont want to be the center of his attacks. But look, ive always taken the view you go to congress, you go to washington as a citizen, you serve your time and you return back to your district as a citizen with decency and thats what Elijah Cummings seems to me he represents. I dont know how a lot of these members who had the opportunity to stand up, all these opportunities given to them and they didnt d even mention thei