Both . This is a guy who is worse than a racist. Id like to see everybody reduce the rhetoric. You got to go fut than that and say mr. President , youre wrong. I disagree with the view that if you criticize somebody and they happen to be a different color skin that makes it a racial criticism. When you disagree with the president , suddenly youre a bad person. Extreme heat. When will the country get a break from dangerous temperatures . Plus muellers moment, what to expect when he testifies on capitol hill this week. New today, though, passionate reaction after a week in which the president has harkened on racially divisive attacks on four congresswomen of color. Elijah cummings says the president s go back tweets are painful. The chairman of the Oversight Committee says the president s words bring back memories of being beaten as a teenager when trying to integrate a pool in his hometown of baltimore in 1962. I can still remember bleeding from my forehead when people were throwing bottles. These were adults throwing bottles and saying go home [ bleep ]. I would say to the president right now, mr. President , we want you to be a role model. We want somebody in that white house who our children can be proud of. Who our children can emulate, who our children will look up to. And that is not the kind of example that youre setting, and im telling you, mr. President , you and we, our nation is better than that. And yet this morning another attack from the president who wrote, quote, i dont believe the four wonk women of color are capable of loving our country. Coming to his defense, Steven Miller considered the master mind of some of the most controversial and racially insensitive policies emerging from the trump administration. Anybody who is running for office right left or center always puts where they think America Needs to go and can do better, but theres a fundamental distinction between people who think that we need to lean into and strengthen americas core values, whether it be our constitutional values, the rule of law, the principles of western civilization or people think we need to turn america into venezuela. And part of the president s defense is attacking the four progressive congresswomen for controversial comments that other democrats have criticized. But adam schiff says there is no equivalence. Yes, we have a big and diverse caucus and the political views of the caucus is reflective of the country as they are of our caucus, but that is not equivalent to the racist rhetoric coming out of the white house. I fully expect our members are going to be very aggressive out there. We have strong disagreements with this president. But were focussed on those disagreements when it comes to providing good paying jobs to people. Issues like minimum wage, trying to save access to people while he wants to demonize four women of color. Meanwhile a new cbs new poll shows 87 of americans believe the country is somewhat or very divided i ai long racial lines with 13 saying its not divided along racial lines. Hans nichols is following the president in new jersey. A good sunday to you. You have new tweets from the president. Hes really digging in his heels on this fight. Whats the word from there . Well, its the president either likes the fight for his own sake or he doesnt think hes winning it and wants to recalibrate. This morning its new and slightly more aggressive. Hes basically calling the four lawmakers weak and insecure. We havent heard that before from him, but its more of the same. Its the president clearly enjoying this fight hes in. This is looking like were going to have week two of this. Remember, this all started last sunday. And lets take a look at the charge from the president. This is the tweet that started it off this morning. Here he is saying he thinks the lawmakers are weak and insecure and that i dont believe the four congresswomen are capable of loving our country. They should apologize to america and israel for the horrible hateful things theyve said. Theyre destroying the Democratic Party, but are weak and insecure people who can never destroy our great nation. We are going to have a long debate throughout the rest of the week on what the president s strategy is, his tactics, where the president wants to take the fight. Hes disputing that he almost stumbled into this strategy last week. From the Washington Post they talked to 26 aides and officials. They gave the indication that the president made this tweet on sunday last week not really knowing how offensive it would be. Now, this morning mercedes who is now with the campaign is defending the president. Look, i have worked with President Trump for two years. And he is not a racist. He is a compassionate man whose policies have focussed on the minority community. He is a results oriented president who is focussed on helping uplift all americans including blacks, including hispanics, and i have to say ive been with him in the room with all these different communities, and he does stay focussed on ensuring were implementing the right policies for all americans. Reporter thats the dynamic for the week going forward. Well see the white house on the defensive while the president himself goes on the offensive. And well be monitoring closely to see how the attacks from the president have changed whether or not its significant. Whether or not it appears to be tactical and the frequency of his attacks, because you saw the arc of that last week where it almost looked like the white house was through with this when the president went to the rally, and then you had that send her back chant at the rally. The president initially distanced himself and was critical of the lawmakers again, and it seems like his position now is somewhere close toing a n agnostics on that chant. I think it will be the focus for a long time given it might be in the campaign in terms of ideology. Were going to focus on it with our discussion. Joining me now jane newton small and charlie savage, msnbc contributor. Big welcome to you both. Charlie, its been about a week since the president s onriginal go back tweet. The president is digging in. Why does he want to keep this going . The question about trump or one of the questions about when it comes to this race stuff is does he himself, a racist, as the people around him insist hes not. Is it cynical going back to his birtherism that launched him into the political sphere . Does he see it as a place where theres Tremendous Energy that other people shy away from and that he can tap into and that at the end of the day theres more white people who vote in this country than people of color even now and that means he thinks its a Winning Strategy for him if he can polarize people along racial lines no matter what the cost to the country. What do you make of the defense coming out of the white house or the campaign as with merced mercedes schlapp. Theyre always trying to smooth over the president s comments, making them seem normal and this is okay. The fact is you talk to republicans on capitol hill, and behind closed doors or off the record, theyll express a lot of concern. Certainly you even saw Lindsey Graham that donald trump, President Trump this morning disavowed and said it was fake news saying this is actually worry somebecause it goes so far as to single people out as racist and to use racist language. And thats not theyre trying to sort of make this distinction that the idea that you can hate peoples ideas but not people themselves, and that they are the ones who are hating america. And he seems to really relish this idea that hes elevating these four women that he would rather run against them than joe biden who constantly beating him in polls and is more of a milk toast democrat. Hes trying to elevate the more extreme version of the Democratic Party or the much sort of left wing to the Democratic Party to run against them versus running against more moderates. But at the same time hes actually inciting democrats to unify and come together, and to drive democrats out to the polls because this is so outrageous. Right. When is the last time we talked about the pelosi versus the squad regarding impeachment and the like . Theyre unified on this. This Washington Post article. Charlie, what are your thoughts . Zblim struck by the lead of it. It talks about how aides to trump didnt think that he actually knew what he was doing when he put out the original go back to yeah. I mean tweets. That Kellyanne Conway had to explain to him why this was a problem. Well, i wonder, though, theres an ambiguity. Are they saying he didnt know it was racist and would provoke this kind of anger, or is it that he didnt know that it was tactically foolish, because it allowed as you were just saying, democrats who had had this wedge between the pelosi faction and the sort of more left wing to get past that and unify and that he didnt realize it was too far not because its bad to say things that are racist but it was bad to throw a life preserver to the democrats . The way its phrased it sounds more i wonder if its more the latter even if the aides are kind of selling it to the reporters as the former. All right. Got to turn right now to whats happening. The congressional hearing on wednesday with Robert Mueller. Jay, to you first. What do you think democrats hope to hear on wednesday . And is there any concern that the public has sort of moved on from the Mueller Report . Well, i think the problem with the Mueller Report has always been that if this had been one report that dropped, it would have been a huge bomb shell and it would have had an enormous impact. The fact that it leaked out over the period of years while he was doing these investigations, that there was so little of the report that we didnt know or very little of it that when it finally did come out, it was sort of like oh, well, its not that surprising and it didnt feel like it was a huge bomb shell. What they really want Robert Mueller to do is basically say that the president obstructed justice and he probably should be indicted or should be impeached but Robert Mueller is going to be hesitant to do that. Hes made it clear he doesnt want to weigh in personally and hes going to simply refer back to the report. The report should speak for itself. He doesnt want to talk about anything not in the report in terms of the underpinnings of all the information they collected. He really just wants to talk about what was actually written. I think its going to be difficult for democrats to pin him down and get him to sort of Say Something that moves the needle to such an extent where you get bob mueller calling for the president s impeachment. That would be their dream headline. I dont think its going to happen. Ive looked at law fare blog. Its brilliant. I suggest everybody on judiciary and intelligence read this blog. Because he has questions which in my mind would provoke pretty good answers. Lets listen to what some of the House Judiciary Committee chair jerry nadler had to say about this. We want the American People to hear directly from special counsel mueller what his investigation found. I think there is very substantial the report protects substantial evidence that the president is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors and we have to let mueller present the facts to the American People and see where we go from there. We hope it wont be one and done and were going to ask specific questions about look at page 344 paragraph 2, please read it. Does that describe objection of justice and did you find that the president did that, for example . Is this a pervasive fear, that indeed, as you said, the fear that it could end up being a dud . What would the implications of that be . Well, i guess a dud in whose eyes is the question to ask. For people who have read the report and written about it a lot, i think were not going to learn anything new. But as we saw when mueller made that brief statement in the camera a few weeks ago, just his saying to on television that he was not exonerating the president , had this explosive\impact. Some of which imply if ied by tv news because its video to go with the words. I do think it will be interesting if mueller is willing to play along. I agree hes not going to say trump should be indicted or impeached. If he will help go methodically through some of the episodes in which his own only sis shows that trumps actions seem to meet all three criteria for obstruction, and really work through that and pressuring don mcgahn to create false evidence about whether he had previously told him to have don mcgahn fired or trying to get Jeff Sessions to stop mule freller f investigating anything. How that might add up to obstruction but for the fact that a president cant be indicted, i dont think a lot of the public who has not read this report have thought about that or been confronted with that information yet. It could still be of Significant Impact even if to insiders its something weve already read. Its going to be a point on tv and should be. Good to see you both as always. Much of the United States remains under a heat wave. Millions of people seeking relief after days of temperatures above 90, and then add the humidity pushing real feel numbers into the low hundreds. Our meteorologist pulled the short straw. Youre outside in the streets of new york city. When is this going to end . Thats the big question. Reporter alex, im braving the elements as millions of other new yorkers are today here. Weve been out here since this morning at 7 00 a. M. , and the big difference this morning, temperatures were slightly cooler. But man, its still clammy if you put your hands together. Youre really noticing the humidity in the air. Taking a look right now. Official word from the National Weather service, new york city at 94 degrees. But humidity at 78. Thats that oppressive air. The feel like temperature, 110. Were at Madison Square park. On a normal day you know its packed here at shake shack, the line would be backed up, and very few people out here. And im actually really glad to see this with feel like temperatures, this is really unbearable heat. And that is really going to be continue uous here for the northeast and the midwest for the next 24 hours. Lets look at the advisories now. Its dramatically changed from yesterday where we were over 100 million. Today were down to 90 million. So sort of a better situation, and i do expect those to deteriorate in the next few hours. But this cold front is going to make it way through. Thats going to be the game changer here for the northeast, mid atlantic to the midwest as well. By tuesday afternoon, alex, we are going to finally see temperatures cut in half and the huge story . Dew points cut in half. Thats good news. You can see right now people are still trying to be out and about, trying to enjoy their weekend. We are not in the clear just yet. We havent had any reports of any closings from mta. People are just trying to hold on here. I can promise you a change alex is going to come here just hold on. I am so holding you to that. Let me tell you. And by the way, notice nobody sitting in the sun. Everybody is sitting in the shade in fact. Nobody. Not very long. Nobody. See you next hour. Get ac between now and then. If not russia, what about the racially divisive rhetoric . The new case being made for impeachment. Next. Impeachment. 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Hes doing damage to the american spirit. Its good youre saying that instead of letting it just pass which many gop congressmen refused to do. Lets listen to what Elijah Cummings had to say about the effect of this. No matter where i go, what im hearing over and over again is from my constituents, its please save our democracy. Please save our country. And you know Something Else they say, george . They say im scared. And i have not ive never in my total of 37 years in Public Service ever heard a constituent say they were scared of their leader. Scared of their leader . Scared to the president of the United States . The president out United States. Thats right. What are you hearing from your constituents . Any similar tones there . Look, i do hear similar tones. Theyre worried about the direction this president is taking this country in. This is not the country that they grew up in and my constituents grew up in democratic and republican administrations. Good times and bad times. During war and peacetime. This is one time they feel theres not a uniter. I may have my disagreements with george bush and Ronald Reagan but they never tried to divide the country for their own political gain. This president lives and dies by that. Thats against the dna of this country. When something is that wrong, they just have a rejection to it. Theyre trying to find a way to get out of it. The way is by voting . Divided states of america. Its disturbing. Lets move to this weeks failed impeachment effort. It was brought to the floor on wednesday by al green. I know you voted against it. Correct . First, tell me why you voted against it. What was it about it that you felt it did not rise to the standard to get your support behind it . I recently came out in support of articles of for the impeachment inquiry. Representative green was pushing for articles of impeachment that skipped that process. I think its important we have precedence. Its important to have steps in process. We dont many years from now to look back and see how hastily potentially we acted. Youve made the distinguishing point between inquiry and actually pushing for articles of impeachment. How many feel like you do that making the inquiry and doing that thoroughly and fully is appropriate . I think talking to many of my colleagues, they do feel thats appropriate, the impeachment inquiry. If we look at the articles of impeachment, for example, Richard Nixon had a 7month impeachment inquiry. I dont believe we have to go that far. I think representative mueller has done a lot of great work sorry. Especially prosecutor mueller has done a lot of great work, but i believe you still have to follow the process on the constitution. It was interesting talking to representative green yesterday. He said he felt he had more work to do to put forward enough credibility, enough stats, facts and the like for you, his colleagues, to support that. Do you expect that this is going to be a neverending situation, that it is going to happen left and right, that well continue pursuing impeachment . I dont believe so. I think it will be put to rest . I believe that theres going to be a decision thats going to be made by the caucus once mueller finishes testifying this week. I think the American Public does demand it, but i do believe that opening the impeachment inquiry is the important step. It allows us to fully investigate the crimes of this president. Theres one issue representative green was quite passionate about yesterday. I want to play what he talked about. And see if you dont believe impeachment might follow as a result of this. Here it is. It would be far better for this country to impeach the president for his hate, for his means by which hes harming society with his bigotry than to impeach him for obstruction of justice, because his hate is what is at the root of all of this. Obstruction of justice impeachment will not change and have an impact on the hate. Weve got to deal with this hate. If we dont deal with this hate, it is going to deal with us. What are your thoughts on that . Look, i really appreciate what representative green is saying. He has been a leader in the civil rights movement, and hes the conscious of congress. I do believe, however, that we have to go through the proper process. I do think just looking at all my republican colleagues who have been making excuses for this president , that we wouldnt even have any proper support among even republicans in this country who i think do have an opportunity to show their pay trichl by standing with us in this process. I think what we saw with representative mueller, im sorry, with mueller testifying what were going to see is somebody who is going to lay out that there is a problem in this white house that he should have been indicted had he had the opportunity and that he was not exonerated. Those three things are going to be important. You think were going to get that after wednesday . I believe its going to be clear to us that mueller tried to do an investigation but was impeded by this administration. And that there was no exoneration. And i think the most important thing to remember is this administration has repeatedly said theyd been exonerated. We saw on page 244 and also mueller actually testified saying there is no exoneration, and had there been exoneration, they would have dwladly announced it. Thats important. Thank you for joining me. Good to see you. The power of the squad, whats in it for the president to inflate their impact on the Democratic Party . Act on the democrat picarty you only talk about your insurancet, when you complain about it. garbled . Its so painful. Good point thats why esurance is making the whole experience surprisingly painless. So, you never have to talk about it. Unless youre their spokesperson. Esurance. Its surprisingly painless. 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Youre seeing the squad dictating the rules of the Democratic Party. That is where you see the Democrat Party in disarray where these democratic president ial candidates are going to have to kiss the ring of the squad because they are the new voices of the Democratic Party. That should be concerning. The Senior Adviser for trumps 2020 campaign pushing the president s plan to make the four progressive congresswomen the face of the Democratic Party. The Washington Post in a new report saying the president had wanted to elevate them with his tweets last weekend. Thinking they were good foils. Lets bring in former deputy labor secretary during the obama administration. Jonathan alter, republican strategist susan dell purseio. Chris, clearly schlapp is painting the democrats as extreme. Do you think that message actually resonates with the voters that he wants to reach . Those that are beyond his base . I dont think so at all. Look, these are four dynamic young members of congress who have wide appeal among millennials, but there are also 31 House Democrats who want districts that donald trump carried in 2016. You have adam schiff and jerry nadler and you dont have a president calling them disloyal to the u. S. Government. So whats important here to understand is that this is what they are trying to do now is paint over these racist comments into a political strategy. This is nothing more than racism. And the American People rejected this approach in 2018 and theyre going to reject it again in 2020. What do you think, susan . How much does the racist aspect of the president s tweets, how much does it muddle the intended message to the point where it gets lost upon those that he needs to reach beyond his base . I dont think it will end up working in the end, because at the end of the day, the president s only path is to show that he has had a successful first term which is to show that if the economy holds, the economy is going well. This strategy is to i think is a place holder for the president. Thats what i think hes thinking. Heres just another thought and to put it in perspective about how many people hes going to turn off and why i want to hold republicans accountable for being silent. What would you say if the principal called and said your child just told someone who looked different from them to go back to where they came from . Most people would be horrified and they should be. I think that kind of ideas, that sentiment is going to stick with mod moderates, independents and suburban women. Jonathan, there is a dangerous aspect. Well does it in a moment. Is the president driving this narrative, and doing it so now projecting to 2020 and if so, what do the democrats do to counteract it . Just keep harping on it or more . Well, hes good at driving a narrative. Hes a big megaphone. But remember, in 2018 they tried to use nancy pelosi and Maxine Waters as punching bags. It failed. It will fail this time. In less than six months theres going to be a punitive democratic nominee, and that person man or woman is going to be the face of the Democratic Party. And it wont work for trump even as a place holder strategy to beat up on the squad. However, you asked what can the democrats do in response . Interesting that in 2018 both nancy pelosi and Maxine Waters made themselves small targets. They didnt try to step out there with anything particularly controversial to say. And they did not lead with their chins. And that is a danger the democrats sometimes fall prey to. That doesnt mean the squad should shut up. I actually think they responded very well in this situation. And they have a lot of interesting things to say, but they might be smart not to say get into a fight about israel or Something Like that right now which can be its own form of distraction. The squad when they responded were quite right that what trump was doing was distracting from the real issues. They dont want to also they should not want to also distract. And i think if they can be politically disciplined, and theyve shown some signs of it in recent days, that this will be disastrous for trump next year, because unlike a lot of other trump controversies, send them back is really easy to remember. Its not complicated. And its going to stick. Oh, yeah, and there will be more chanting, no doubt. The dangerous aspect were going to get to, chris, about the president singling out women, four women of color and these chants is how some followers might project that onto others in this country. So politically speaking, whats your assessment of that notion . Well, thats exactly right. Look, as an Asian American who has spent 20 years in Public Service what about the immigrant who walks into a restaurant or store today and is taunted because of how they look or how their english sounds . What about that school child who is going to be bullied in school . And heres the irony. This was what the first ladys be best program was trying to solve, and yet, you now have a president whose normalized conduct that is considered unacceptab unacceptable, its so unacceptable that if you did it in your workplace, you would be fired for that. This is a time for all elected officials to speak out. All americans need to hear this is unacceptable. And unfortunately, you have republicans right now who out of Blind Loyalty to the president will not question him publicly. And thats damaging not only to their party but its damaging to the country. Listen, guys, all great comments. Unfortunately nick told me were out of time. You made perfect sense to me. Thank you so much. Defending the president. Is it getting tougher for the head of the National Diversity coalition for trump . Im going to talk to him and find out next. Advanced Safety Technology on a full line of vehicles. Now, at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. Lease the 2019 es 350 for 379 a month, for 36 months, and well make your first months payment. Experience amazing. Doctor bob, what should i take for back pain . Before you take anything, i recommend applying topical relievers first. Salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, nonaddictive relief. Salonpas lidocaine. Patch, rollon or cream. Hisamitsu. I do think its important that with that chant what he told this country is that he doesnt want to be president anymore. Because he wants to pick and choose who he is a president to. And thats not a president. Once you are elected, you have a responsibility to everyone in this country, everyone. Just like me, im a member of congress, i am responsible for the people who didnt vote for me too. Congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez reacting to the president s supporters chanting send her back. That chant was inspired by the president s words. Joining me now, executive director of the National Diversity coalition for trump. Also a member of the president s 2020 advisory board. Bruce, welcome back. Lets get to the point the congresswoman was making. Does the president have a responsibility to serve even those who did not vote for him, and isnt he failing to do that when his tweets and words hurt and insult Many Americans . Well, yes, thank you for having me. And in all fairness, i think theres a lot of noise out there. I believe you opened here with alexandria ocasiocortez saying she these things, but i challenge and this goes for everyone. When you run for office, republican or dc, congress especially, senate, you promise your constituents to fight and serve for your district, by god, do it. These Congress Folks throwing socialist ideas and these types of things at the country are polling in the Single Digits as it relates to their popularity in their district. The reason is because theyre not holding what they said they were going to do, to go to congress to fight to bring jobs, education to their district, and not throw fight and incendiary comments at the president. It does nothing for their constituents. They are reacting to the president , bruce. Dont you think the president is hurting insulting Many Americans with what he says and tweets . Alex, in reference to this rally, you can go to the Bernie Sanders rally, the Hillary Clinton it was just unheard of the things and comments they were chanting in those rallies. Look, at the end of the day, First Amendment people say things. It doesnt mean if someone comes to your house or community and says something that represents you. Youre going to have that everywhere. And this gets back to what ive been saying all along. All elected officials, republican and democrats go out there, fight for your district, fight for jobs. Fight for good Quality Health care. And just work together. My god, look at the womens unemployment rate. 50 years all time low. Look at the president s initiatives on the opportunity zoning. Thats going to bring 100 billion why are you saying this . Why is the president not putting that out there . Why doesnt he focus on that instead of the four Progressive Democratic women. I think you know as well as i do, this president is a counterpuncher. The numbers speak for themselves. Look at the low employment. Look at the lowest African American unemployment in my lifetime. The numbers are there. People have got to stop. Stop getting caught up in all this emotional social rhetoric and Pay Attention to the numbers . Okay, but do you like it . Do you appreciate it when the president says things that are hurtful to Many Americans . I mean, what do you feel . Get off of your position as being part of the campaign and advisory board. What do you think . I feel that people have rights to take any type of anything out of context, whatever. People take a lot of things out of context. But alex, at the end of the day as i said earlier, were talking about elected officials. Were talking about this whole deal out here on Race Relations. Alex, Race Relations and cultural relations comes with our community in our faith based community. Not the government. All the folks who come out and you hear incendiary things out there. Take a look at their constituents, friends and family. Are you jewish and getting along having a muslim brother at your table. Are you African American and having a white couple in your home . Its all community. Its not government. And we as a people, we have to take care of this. Not push this on the president , the governor or anyone. Since were talking about the president , if you argue hes not a racist, does using racially divisive attacks for a political gain effectively make him a racist . I dont see listen, it doesnt matter whether youre white, black, pink, purple green. It does matter. Whatever happened to we all all we have is our word. This is the president of the United States. Alex, look, heres the deal here. The president out of his term has done more, been the champion, for example, on prison reform. You know, 94 crime bill that devastated a black community, as van jones who is on the other side who i dont agree with said President Trump is the leader in prison reform. Theres a lot of things that are good things going on out here, and theres too much noise everywhere. So, bruce and the numbers dont lie, alex. Why does he need to do what he does with his divisive rhetoric . You mean if thats i mean qf he just puts that out there, it might reflect well on him. Why does he reflect so poorly on himself . The president loves this country unconditional. When you as elected official or anyone speak up against this nation, the president will check you in your place. It doesnt matter what color or where youre from, everything. This is america. And if we dont start preaching and believing that who we are as americans made in america, you saw the big deal at the white house, people making things. Where is the rca and zone it, and the american spirit. This is what the president of the United States believes in as we the people, america first. And alex, by the way, we cant govern or help anyone else if we dont take care and keep our own country safe. Okay. Im out of steam. But i do i enjoy our conversations. Heated as they may be sometimes, bruce. Thank you for coming on. Well see you again. And condolences to your father. Im sorry to hear that. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. This weeks mueller hearings, the most crucial questions james comey wants the committees to ask but will the president be watching . You know what . At some point they have to stop playing games because theyre just playing games. No, i wont be watching mueller. I customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. When you have diabetes, dietary choices are crucial to help manage blood sugar, but it can be difficult to find a balanced solution. Try greattasting boost glucose control. The patented blend of protein, fat, and carbs is part of a balanced formula thats clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. In fact, it provides 60 more protein than the leading diabetes nutrition shake and contains only 1 carb choice. 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A third goal and as important as the first two is for the questions to illicit a rebuttal of the massive disinformation campaign. The Propaganda Campaign thats been waged against the American People by trump, bill barr, Lindsey Graham and others. I would ask special counsel mueller, youve heard the president say your report found no collusion, is that true or false . He has to say based on the four corners of his report that is false. Same for no obstruction. That is false. Every time we run a clip of the president spouting out that propaganda, we ought to juxtapose and immediately play bob mueller saying that is false. Thats the way you get to the hearts and minds of the American People. And editors around the country are duly taking note of that. Your thoughts. What do you we expect from mueller . I expect him to support his report. Its an interesting situation because when he begins his testimony, he is starting with the obstruction section then they go to what happened with the russians intervening. I wish that was switched because when youre trying to tell a story, you want to have the ark of the story and the first part is the russian investigation. We obviously need know about how they interfered in the election. How the Trump Campaign had contacts. How they knew the russians were trying to be helpful and how they never called the fbi. I would like that highlighted. Then you get to the obstruction. The comey question is interesting. Instead of asking a yes or no question, isnt it true you found evidence that the president tried to fire mueller. Then we need a big explanation. They are dividing up the questions. I hope they divide it up when someone is talking about the substantial evidence, that person follows up and gets the evidence that underlies it before the next person can take the next obstruction count. Glen, do you have concerns on this point that these comey questions, if these are used as a prototype that it would be direct but incomplete. Yeah. Its a tough call whether you want to ask mueller leading questions or nonleading questions. A leading question boxes the witness in. Its like special counsel mueller, isnt it true that you found that the president asked White House Counsel Don Mcgahn to lie and cover up some of President Trumps conduct. Then bob mueller would say thats true. Thats documented in my report. Bob mueller agreeing with it. Its evidence of that thing happening. Let him talk about the misconduct that his report documents. Cynthia, do you think these questions, if asked, will satisfy the public . Has the public reached a point where they have their own conclusions where they come from the president or the medias coverage . Very few read the report. Im an optimistic person and i believe that justice is coming but i have a cynical side to me that people have made up their mind already. I think they should do both. I think they should ask the leading question and get the answer in the record and require mueller to go through and catalog the evidence to support it. If he does that, justice is coming and maybe people will really listen and change their mind. If all it is boring yes or no, people will turn it off. I know youll be staying tuned. Thats for sure. Thank, guys. Hate groups across america reaching a record high. Attracting more than 1,000 of them. The effect of the trump era inspiring hate, instilling fear. Inspiring ha, teinstilling fear. Here, it all starts with a simple. Hello hi how can i help . A data plan for everyone. Everyone . Everyone. 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The chairman of the Oversight Committee says the president s words bring back memories of his being beaten as a teenager when trying to integrate a pool in his hometown of baltimore back in 1962. I can still remember bleeding from my foreheads when people were throwing bottles and these were adults. Throeing bottles and saying go home [ bleep ]. I would say, right now. We want you to be a role model. We want somebody in that white house who our children can be proud of. Who our children will look up to. That is not the kind of example that youre setting and im telling you, mr. President , you and we, our nation better than that. Yet this morning another attack from the president who wrote i dont believe the four congresswomen are capable of loving our country. Congressman reacted to the attack. I think its just sad that any american president would say that about any other citizen, let alone in congress. Every american is capable of showing their love their country through service. This president has changed the norms so much and so fast were all kind of letting it slide as if this is something normal. This is something really abnormal and hes doing damage to the american spirit. Here is how the white house is depending the president. I feel worked with President Trump for two years. He is not racist. Hes a compassionate man whose policies have focused on the minority community. He is a results oriented president who is focused on helping uplift all americans including blacks, including hispanics. I have to say ive been with him in the room with all these different communities and he does stay focused on ensuring that were implementing the right policies for all americans. Meanwhile a new cbs poll today shows 87 of americans believe the country or very divided along racial lines with 13 saying its not divided along racial lines. Lets go to nbc hans. Another good day to you. We have the president leveling a new attack against the congresswom congresswomen. Lets get to what hes saying there. Reporter its a clear indication he wants this to dominate. Whether he think he needs to slightly tweak his message, we dont know. We do know its on his mind and hes accusing them. Its not a new attack, but its altered of the same thing. Hes saying i dont believe the four congresswomen are capable of loving our country. They should apologize to america and israel for the horrible, hateful things they have said. They are destroying the Democrat Party but are weak and insecure people who can never destroy our great nations. The president s tweets was about this Washington Post story. Really gives you an a gnatnatom the last week. Not really aware of how it might, the role Vice President mike pence played in this. Then it took new life on wednesday with the send her back chants at the president s rally. The president distanced himselves and then seemed to be little closer to where his audience was and the real hateful people is those four lawmakers. Earlier Stephen Miller was asked about this and whether or not he thinks the president is racist. All of this is fair game especially the president s attacks. Anybody who is running for office, right left or Center Points out where they think america can do better. Where they think America Needs to go. Theres a fundamental distinction between people who think that we need to lean into and strengthen americas core values, whether it be our constitutional value, the rule of law, the principles of western civilization or people who think we need to turn america into venezuela. Reporter taking the totality of what the president has been tweeting about, what his aides have been saying, it appears this is a conversation the white house is prepared to engage in a bit longer. Whether its a conversation, debate or a nasty mud slinging conte contest. Looks like the white house is set on this. Well see what extent the president continues to press his points and continues to make these attacks. Very thorough report there. Thank you very much. Lady, with a good sunday to you all. Steph, what do you think is behind the president os effort to keep this controversy going . Were seeing the president to continue to tweet about the squad, these four members of congress. This is really part of its become part of his 2020 campaign strategy. He doesnt have a nominee to rail against. He thinks by tieing the Democratic Party to these more progressive members of congress who many republicans and more conservative people dislike, he thinks thats the best tactic but as we have seen, that hasnt played exactly the way he was hoping it would be but we also expect to see more of this race baiting as part of his 2020 strategy. Whats interesting is the Washington Post is reporting here that even his closest allies were unnerved by his original tweet. Senator Lindsey Graham said he always doubles down then he a adjusts. You think thats what hes doing . Republicans are struggling with how to respond to this. They dont want to criticize the president but they dont want to be seen as supporting this type of rhetoric. I talked to multiple members of Republican Leadership who are staunch allies of the president and took their concerns directly to Vice President mike pence and said please share our concerns with the president which he agreed to do. Hang on. Any of those folks go public with it . No. Several of them are on the record in my political report including Paul Mitchell of michigan. Mark walker, a conservative pastor from north carolina. These are actually people that are now going on the record and saying were very concerned. They are worried this will become the campaign man trtra. This will define the gop. They would rather focus on the progressive policy, the Green New Deal and medicare for all. They do not want to engage in these ugly, racially motivated, personal attacks on these women of color because they know its going to hurt their standing with minorities and moderates in 2020. Steph, with regard to mercedes and what she was saying this morning. She asserted the 2020 candidates will have to kiss the ring of the squad because they are the new voices of the Democratic Party. Branding these four members of congress the face of the party, it appears to be strategic. How should democrats handle this going into the Election Year without playing into hands of the administration in. This is intentional on the part of Trumps Campaign and the republicans. They do want to tie pelosi to these more progressive congresswomen and what they have to do is these member vss have lot of say. Their tweets do go viral. When it comes to their work on the hill, ive spoken to democrats who say what they are getting done is not a whole lot. They are driving the conversation and need to be defended when the president of the United States is tweeting racist things directed at them. There needs to be the Democratic Party needs to unite around them but also needs to not fall into the republicans strap of trying to tie them to the more progressive policies and everything that these farther progressive candidates stand for. Have you heard how democrats plan to approach all this . Well, they already did a resolution on the floor just this past week condemning the president as racist but some members are pushing for even more. Some of them want a censure resolution and would be a much more severe type of punishment. Nancy pelosi and Democratic Leaders have a lot on their plate. They are focused on ensuring the safety of these four women on capitol hill. You heard aoc at a town hall this weekend mentioning the attacks against her. Looks like the president has handed ammo to some of the partys fiercest fighters on the battlefield. They will not let this go easily. Anything that democrats can do to keep the president from effectively calling these four the face of the party . Will it have to wait until theres a democratic nominee in. I think a lot will depends on who is the standard bearer for the party. Nancy pelosi has tried to mar n marginalize the four women prior to the attacks. The lot of the democrats dont want to be tied to these women. They dont want to be called socialist. Thats a problem for a lot of these swing district democrats who will be up again in 2020. Last word to you steph, do you think theres any good to come of this in terms of uniting the Democratic Party . Theres been a bit of a divide between the squad and nancy pelosi but not right now. It does seem the president s tweets have united the Democratic Party. Its given them something to hold up and say we dont want to be like that especially going into 2020. In the same way trump has been using racial tactics to try to give himself a strategy going into 2020 it also gives power to the democrats to be the opposite of what the president is doing. Good to see you both. Bear the heat down there in d. C. Well get to that now. A big blanket of heat covers over much of the United States creating big discomfort, even danger for several people. Dont tell me youre going down into the subway . Reporter this is the real deal. This is how everybody tries to commute and get to work. Outside its 94 degrees in parts of new york city. Thats in direct sunlight. When you start to get into a confined area, you add about 25 degrees. The feel like temperature down here that many people are dealing with, 118 degrees. I want to show you here. Look at this. This is kind of unusual. Were at the 23rd train station here. You dont see that many people. I think, alex, a lot of people are taking heed to what our forecast is saying. You need to stay inside for at least the next 12 to 24 hours. I do want to show you the big time relief that were about to see. This cold front is already making its way across the midwest. That will slice the temperatures in half northeast to northern new england. Parts of the midatlantic. You will not see a reprieve in the weather system until about tuesday afternoon. You know, its easy kind of being outside. We still have to climb the stairs. Its really harsh on the beside. Were talking about yesterday when your body goes over 95 degrees, you sort of start to panic here. Im starting to sweat here and the humidity is completely taking over. Its almost just unbearable. You need the leave. Walk back upupstairs. Yesterday, i thought i was going to jump on the subway and i thought im getting into an airconditioned taxi. Leave now. Go get in the shade. Coming up, the Ripple Effect of racial rhetoric on communities and families. The palpable impact of the president s bully pulpit and the indecision over what constitutes racially charged remarks. A new poll shows six in ten americans say people dont agree on whats considered racist language and nearly 80 believe heated rhetoric by politicians about certain groups of people makes violence more likely against those people. More likey against those people im alex trebek here to tell you about the Colonial Penn program. If youre age 50 to 85 and looking to buy Life Insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. What are the three ps . The three ps of Life Insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. A price you can afford, a price that cant increase, and a price that fits your budget. Im 65 and take medications. Whats my price . You can get coverage for 9. 95 a month. I just turned 80. Whats my price . 9. 95 a month for you, too. 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Scared of the president of the United States. President of the United States. Thats exactly right. Joining me host of the hutchinson report. Is that a sign that the president s attacks are creating a collective trauma particularly for communities of color . Yes. What President Trump is doing is hes exploiting group divisions. Divisions that have always existed in our country regrettably. Theres the immigrant, nonimmigrant. White versus black versus latino versus Asian American. These identities have always existed but what hes doing is driving wedges and propping up these divisions and making people feel nervous and scared and looking at the other person who is not like them and wondering what their intentions are and seeing negative aspects to that person where just because were different doesnt mean thats a bad thing. Hes layering on negative aspects. They dont love america. Hes been cultivating is if you dont agree with me, youre antiamerican. How can you argue with that . Folks who find themselves in that position of being attacked, where else do they have to turn. This is what representative cummings is seeing with a lot of the folks hes talking to. I want to bring what he said. Yesterday congressman al green told me this. I know what send them back means. Ive had it said to me. Ive had people to chase me because they wanted me to go back. When i was a child, a gang of young anglo men chased me. Ive had a cross burned in my honor, i say, but it was a cross that was burned for me. I know what hate is all about. This president is expressing the hate. That was painful to hear yesterday as well as Elijah Cummings talking about trying to integrate a pool and was chased and left with a bloodied forehead because of that. Were talking about pretty painful memories of racism and folks having to relive it. Are they instructive for today in. They are instructive and also their are cathartic. Itback memories. I have memories. Many africanamerican, many immigrants have those painful experiences. It is instructive but thats not enough. Instructive for who . 90 of republicans do not think anything that donald trump said is racist. What really caught my eye was you had a significant percentage of other americans who do not tag themselves as republican or gop who also thought the same thing. When you look at that, those numbers and measure that against the experiences, negative experiences and the remembrances of so many people of color in this country, you really got a volatile mix here. You also have Something Else. The divisions we talk about all the time are there. The bigger question is how do you bridge that gap. How do you bring people together . How do people see the other point of view or other peoples experiences. I think thats the big and challenging question for all of us. The volatility can be dangerous. Theres a survey by the Research Center that found 78 of americans believe that when elected officials use heated or aggressive language that makes violence against those targets much likely. You got 61 of republicans who think that way as well. How do you interpret these numbers . Rhetoric has an impact and President Trump knows this. We know that negative rhetoric mobilizes people. Theres a reason why we see so many negative campaign ads and im going to lop in the racist ads within that. If it can mobilize you to vote, it can also mobilizize you to d negative thing pps ths. This is why we do have to talk about these things. Thats why we have to discuss it because actions do come out of the words that are spoken and we need to recognize that at the end of the day we are a diverse country and that in that diversity there needs to be respect. We may not always agree with each other but there does need to be a certain level of respect to keep violence at bay. Lets take a listen to how the president senior add vivise reacted when asked are the president s words are racist. I think the term is too often deployed by the left, democrats in the country simply to try to silence and punish and suppress people they disagree with. Speech they dont want to hear. Im curious what you make of that because you write its tough to get a handle on what is racism and who can be called racist because of the fuzzy, misunderstood definition of what constitutes racism. What are you thoughts . It depends on who you are calling a racist and who is calling that person a racist. If you have racial bias, if theres racial prejudice. If theres inclinations on the part of someone to think ill of someone else based on color, almost always color, but it could be gender, sexual preference or place of birth then the fact of the matter is youre going to call that person a racist, thats the last thing they want to hear because youre challenging something about them. Right away the battle lines are drawn. Right away they will dig their heels in. Right away they become defensive. When that happens, how can you talk to anybody. It doesnt work. Going to have to figure out a way to come at peoples biases, expose those biases without labeling them. Thats really the big challenge. Whats your take on Stephen Miller suggesting that democrats are using the term racist to silence people they disagree with . Talk about the historical significance of telling someone to go back. We saw a shift in the 1960 from overt racism where we had laws on the books to symbolic racism where its just hard to put your finger on it. Thats where Stephen Miller can say these things. Its not fair to say someone is racist because a lot of issues have become code for racial issues. In the 1980s it was the welfare and the Willie Horton ads. Today its go back. Hes not saying something explicitly like i hate immigrants but hes skating very close to the edge of overt racism. I think thats skating to the edge and not quite crossing over is essential for trump because it allows him the cover and supporters cover to stay in that gray area of like, well, were not being overtly racist. Were not saying the n word or the double baw back word for immigrants. We are talking about people who dont accept our values. This is the gray area that gives folks like this cover. S im very glad to talk to you both about it today. Thanks so much. Thank you. Another fail eed impeachment effort in the house. Ill ask a congresswoman why she voted against it. A congresswome voted against it whooo want to take your next vacation to new heights . Tripadvisor now lets you book over a hundred thousand tours, attractions, and experiences in destinations around the world like new york from bus tours, to breathtaking adventures, tripadvisor makes it easy to find and book Amazing Things to do. And you can cancel most bookings up to 24 hours in advance for a full refund. 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Lets get to your reaction of the president s relentless ie ta attacks your colleagues. Its disappointing when you see the president using petty rhetoric to attack people. Its not worth the dignity of his office. He needs to stop provoking people and stop being divisive and he needs to focus on delivering for American People. I think its unfortunate that somebody who holds the office acts in a way beneath the dignity of that office. I know Elijah Cummings is saying his constituents are scared of their leader, meaning the president. Are your constituents expressing any similar thing ss . Absolutely. Words matter. Theres no doubt this rhetoric is hurtful. I think he owes these women an apology. They are in Public Service. They might have disagreements over policy but that doesnt mean that these women are any less american than the president. Again, i think its really disappointing to have somebody in that office not use that office to unite this country but to damage our american spirit. I spoke with your colleague congresswoman al green yesterday who said the president s rhetoric this week is enough grounds for impeachment. Take a listen to this. It would be far better for this country to impeach the president for his hate, for his means by which hes harming society with his bigotry than to impeach him for obstruction of justice because his hate is what is at the root of all of this. Obstruction of justice impeachment will not change and have an impact on the hate. We have to deal with this hate. If we dont deal with this hate, its going to deal with us. Whats your reaction to what he said there . Clearly its heartfelt and comes from place where he feels those attacks personally as well. When were talking about impeachment there are certain standards and a process and you have to have the underlying facts to prosecute that case for impeachment and just the fact that somebody is hateful isnt grounds for impeachment. Weve got right now six committees that are working on oversight and investigating whether or not there was an abuse of power by this president. Whether or not there was obstruction of justice by this president. We need to allow them to continue to do their work and gather the facts. If the facts lead us to place where impeachment is warranted then go forward with impeachment. Is that why you voted against the failed effort that congress al green led. Is it because you feel its still a work in progress . You dont have enough yet. Sure. We havent heard testimony from mueller. I think thats important testimony to add to all the underlying facts that have been collected so far. If they lead us to a strong case then impeachment would be the next step. I dont think were quite there yet. Okay. May i ask also about with regard to the i. C. E. , the immigration raids that were allegedly taking place. The only reason i say allegedly is because we have not heard much publicly about them. Can you confirm that any happened in your district and what the reaction was . Its been very low key since all the build up. We did not get reports from raids in my area. I have not heard from constituents about it. Raids can happen at any time and its important for folks to know what their rights are under the law. I think that these raids, unfortunately, and raids in the past have not been focused on that element which we agree we should not have in this country which is people with criminal history. There seems to be this preoccupation with removing everybody and splitting families apart. Thats not who we are as americans. I would rather see concerted effort to focus on the element that we dont want in this country and to allow families to Stay Together while they are waiting for their cases to be heard in a court of law. All right. Nice to see you again. Thank you so much. Thank you. Taking a on trump. 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It would be based on what kind of feedback over i get over this 30day period. The degree to people say sign me up. Let me help out. The degree theres people and resources coming my direction. If there are birds chirping, that will tell me something too. Do you think the federal deficit which is your lone point that you want to discuss, do you think trying to fix that and turn that around and hold republicans accountable for letting that soar, is that enough to gain the kind of support that you need . Time will tell. I think to your point, its an issue that is not on the front of everybodys mind these days. Its not a part of this president ial debate. I think it will be. I dont think we have another four years to wait to this this debate. President ial election cycle, those years have been the year which we debate as americans what is it that we believe, where are we going as a country, what are our priorities. I think woefully absent has been how much can we spend . How much can we take from taxpayers in this country . What does it leave the next generation with with regard to debt and deficit . Where are we going . I think we have worked ourselves into a real pickle and if we dont have a debate now, the Financial Markets will solve this problem for us and that has been blood di for ty for the mi class. Violently detrimental to peoples savings accounts and job prospects. How shocked are you that what was once one of the kmapcommands of the gop has just dissipated. Why has that happened . Thats the 94 question. Youre hitting the nail on the head. The problem is its difficult. You have a president who said i will not just the things that drive debt and spending in our country. You think a senator, a house member will stand up and say youre wrong, mr. President. I think we need to. Not in this sort of cult of personality we have going right now in the Republican Party where all things swirl around the president with him very much in the middle of that circle. I think were there in part because he said were not going to talk about it, were not going to touch it and nobody wants to go against that hailstorm. Here is something that will back that up. Theres a poll that found that 89 of republicans approve of the president. Does that discourage you as you consider challenging him . I just put it to you this way, i was governor for two terms and in that process often times had to deal with evacuation on the coast because in fall we have hurricanes that come our way. You spend all kinds of time preparing and oftentimes the most beautiful of days were just days before a hurricane was going to come our way. Youd have these tourists down on the beach and issuing ore ii and local Law Enforcement saying get off the beach and go inland. They are like no, its beautiful today. It wont be in about 48 hours. I think i would say its the same analogy that fits with our financial position. I would argue were in the most vulnerable financial position we have ever been at as a country since our found and the civil war. Thats how dire our situation is if you look at the numbers. People are complacent because times are comfortable. They 401 k is doing okay and they have a job. If you look at numbers where we really are. Its more like the family down the street that appears to have great life going but its been stacked up based on credit card debt. Following your primary loss last year, your told chuck todd that the Trump Movement morphed into a loyalty test. Do you they believe in donald trump or do they fear his wrath . What could you offer the gop to gain their support . I think its more fear the wrath. Nobody wants to be at the bad end of a trump tweet. You dont want a twitter nickname, you mean. People in politics react out of fear oftentimes. Selfpreservation is a big motivator and driver in the world of politics. Hes a force to be reck onned wi with. They dont want to get in the middle of that. I think its incumbent upon all of us as republicans to say where are we going with this . What have we been about. Its been one of the corner stones of the party for a long time. At least we talked about it. I think we need to get fwook that. Im not going to debate that. I defined it as being one of the commandments of the gop party. We may have you back as a potential 2020 republican candidate for the presidency. Well see what happens with that. Good luck. Well speak with you again. Thank you. Thank you. Why are republicans having so much trouble criticizing the president , at least in public, next. President , at least in public, ne i cant tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you Liberty Mutual customized my Car Insurance so i only pay for what i need. 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Amy is here in studio, so ill start with you. You you said you dont believe that the president is a racist, but dont you see how deeply people feel his words, and that they may be perceived as racist . Do you still disagree . I do disagree. He is not a racist, but i believe he was not wise with his choice of words. That happens quite often with him. Ive been with him numbries times, beside him in a place of worship, and hes not a racist, but were those wise words . And i dont minute muse representative cummings at all, and im sorry they trying terr those feelings, but i dont believe it was his intent. Don clearly disagrees. Im going to ask you to respond to that, in addition to the Washington Post report that the president had open le going after the four congresswomen, saying he wants to elevate those four and telling advisers they were good foils. So in response to what you think amy said is one thing, but do you think he fully understood what he was doing, or do you think im not one to ascribe strategy to the president , where its clear hes not a deep thinker, but he is, however, in campaign mode. I see this as a Good Campaign device for him to gin up his base, fueled by the xenophobia and racebased hatred. I see this as an early proxy for what he will intend to do in terms of this is just the shootaround or the warmup for that, if you will. Weve got to reach a point where thinking adults realize just because youre not warring a white hood and have a swastika tattoo on your forehead, you can still be a racist. Theres no question remaining in the minds of reasonable people that this president is a racist, and it doesnt start with this tenure as president. Youve got the central park five issue, youve got the doj citing the Trump Companies for several years of intentionally keeping black people out of his buildings, housing discrimination. Youve been the birtherism, which he led, which is flatout ratest. And, you know, i have a hard time where we went through the metoo stuff, its not my position to say what is sexist. Women are in the position to feel and determine what is sexist or not. Much as people of color can feel something is racist. We know it when we see it, and it doesnt take a lot of i dont really know what else to say. Only certainly white folks are saying hes not racist, and unfortunately it breaks down partisan line. I have to havegive amy a cha. He didnt discuss race or color. These four women just happened to be women of color with different ethnicities. There was not a white female or white male who participated, but nothing in his tweet had anything to do with racism, but everything to do with questioning their patriotism, and the fact theft made antisemitic and antiamerican comments, period. That means, amy, you are ascribing the president a very analytical thought process into what those tweets were. You think he thought about it and analyzed and wanted to make sure he wasnt using verbiage that would be received as racist . Well, they definitely were not racist comments, but was the tweet well thought out overall . No, i cannot support that scenario. I think once again, like don said, any rational person cannot fully support the way that was thought out. This individual who is our president i think would work best with a, are you sure button on the tweet before he presses send. Adrian, i wanted your thoughts on all this and hopefully a sound bite from Steve Bullock to refer to. Of course hes racist. We sauce this during the 20152016 campaign. Hes some my soldier and the re we are talking about this day, the reason why he keeps sending out these tweets is because the i. C. E. Raids two weeks ago failed, and hes trying to distract his base from the fact that the i. C. E. Raids failed. This is what he wants us to do, letting this drive the news to distract from the real problems. Mueller is testifying on wednesday. He doesnt want his base to remember that, and were falling into his hands basically. Wednesday well be all mueller, all the time. No time for the Steve Bullock sound bite, but i have time to say thank you to all three of you. When much of the country could finally see relief. Those on details at the top of the hour. Details at the top of the hour Award Winning design. Award winning engine. The volvo xc90. The most awarded luxury suv of the century. The volvo xc90. So chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Rkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. 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