Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20190127

Roger stones media tour, what he said about the possibility of cooperating with Robert Mueller plus, why a dozen employees at the Trump National golf course were shown the door. And open for now it is less than three weeks, though, from the next deadline to keep the government open. Whether a deal is really possible coming up, you will hear the new and curious spin from the white house. A very good day to all of you from msnbc World Headquarters here in new york. Welcome to weekends with alex witt we begin with Donald Trumps long time friend and adviser roger stone. He is now shifting his tone on whether he will cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller his indictment goes further in trying to answer muellers core question did donald trump or his campaign attempt to clued with russia quote, a Senior Campaign official was directed to contact stone about future releases from wikileaks and dirt on the Hillary Clinton campaign stone said he wont testify against the president on friday. Then earlier today he said this. Any chance you will cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller if he asks you know, thats a question i would have to i would have to determine after my attorneys have some discussion if there is wrongdoing by other people in the campaign that i know about, which i know of none but if there is, i would certainly testify honestly i would also testify honestly about any other matter including any communications with the president. It is true that we spoke on the phone. But those communications are political in nature. They are benign. The chairman of the House Intel Committee reacting to the new revelations. These are very specific allegations of lies and witness intimidation they are matters that will be easily provable. These are not ambiguous statements they are very detailed and i think he is going to need a much better defense than the one you just heard. Joining me now, Barbara Mcquaid. Welcome to you on a sunday you just heard the former trump adviser changing his tone on cooperating. What do you make of that and how dangerous that could be for the president . He did. He seems very open to it he has had a chance to think about it perhaps and is not foreclosing the possibility. Yesterday what he said is that he wouldnt bear false witness against anybody. Prosecutors arent going to ask him to bear false witness. What they are going to ask him the do is tell the truth about criminal activities of others. Sometimes when people have lot baggage it makes them difficult to be witnesses because they lack credibility with someone like roger stone the only way for him to be valuable is if he can provide information to Robert Mueller that can then be independently corroborated in that way he could be valuable he could tell them about phone calls they didnt know about before, individuals involved in things they didnt know about before if they can duplicate that information by talking with other witnesses or confirm it with documents or records or surveillance or other things that could give him some value as a witness. He appears pretty confident by saying his false statements to congress werent something he intended to say. Listen to how he spun this i did forget on some occasions that i had Text Messages and emails that are entirely exculpatory i will prove in court that any failure of memory on my part was without intent. As a former prosecutor, does step tos theory hold up in court. It could in some cases. If they were relying on minute details or the word of someone else against him maybe but not in this case fwhib who actually read this indictment he may be gailt gaming on the fact that not everybody read the document i dont think it is going to hold up one thing he did is memorialized his faults states in emails and Text Messages. For example, on one of the days he denied to congress he communicated by text with someone uhl he actually communicated 30 times with that person the idea that it slipped my mind, on the very same day, 30, it doesnt hold up and the threats and other things are there this writing in email and texts. I see this as a strong case. Coit be stronger . Or is it less strong because conspiracy was not included in the charges . He described the whole thing as being thin i think you have to think about it in two different ways the charges that are here are narrow but strong. Could you then charge a broader case involving conspiracy . The answer to that is yes. Because these charges were filed do not preclude additional charges were being filed later on why not charge that now . Could be a couple of reasons joyce vance had the theory of holding back discovery so they could continue investigation also i think it gives them negotiating power to say to him you know we could charge with you a conspiracy to defraud the United States by interfering with the Fair Administration of elections which would bring some significant penalties. You can plead guilty to what you have been charged with now and corate and earn a reduced sentence or we can add these charges. Either theory makes sense to me. Barbara, dont go far, you will come back and talk to me in a bit. Lets talk now with Betsy Woodruff, and jeff mason betsy, your take on roger stone trying to change his tone now on whether or not he would cooperate with the special counsel. How do you interpret that . It is a rapid and significant tonal change that said, the comments he made certainly were not unequivocal essentially what he said has been consistent with what he has been saying the last year or so as he publicly speculated about his legal woes that is he is willing to the the truth and the truth will not be damaging to President Trump. He reiterated that message today but the change that i heard is the way he is talking about muellers investigators. A few days before he was indicted i was texting with roger on the record about how he viewed his involvement in the mueller investigation. And he told me that if he were charged with anything, he said it would be a setup. And he also said that he would use his moment to reveal wrongdoing on the part of muellers prosecutors to try to argue that he was illegally surveilled and that muellers lawyers were engaged in sort of egregious violations of Justice Department norms the fact that now a couple of days later he is leaving the door open to working with them and perhaps working with them as they build other cases or providing information that could be eggs culpatory that strikes me as an interesting change here from stone it is thatrd to say what that means long term going forward. He kind of says what he thinks it can change from day to day . I am looking at your article in the daily beast, some of the colorful things that were written in the exchange with stone and credico. How does this add to what we know about who roger stone is . The emails that we have we are the first publication to publish the full email that mueller cites as evidence that stone tried to engage in witness tacherring stones relationship with Randy Credico is a small but important component of the indictment. Credico is on the left of the political spectrum s talk radio host in new york the indictment doesnt name him of he is the radio host who interviewed Julian Assange the messages are foul mouthed. He is also threatening the dog. The emotional support dog. I cant even say i cant say any of the words in that sentence. Thats right. The dog is a very small, cute, fluffy white critter named bianca Randy Credico took bianca with him when he testified to muellers team because he was anxious. Now we see stone threatening to take the dog away. What is important, the conversation they were having i reviewed the email chain. The conversation they were having where stone threatens the dog was not a conversation about muellers testimony. He was talking about upcoming media appearances, about openly discussing his relationship with roger stone. Then stone comes in with this extremely graphic and offensive language going after credico and his dog. Yeah. Publicly, jeff, the white house is pretty quick to distance the president from stones indictment saying it had nothing to do with the president is the white house as confident privately . Thats a good question. I think we will have to see the way that that i think the best way to answer that is to watch them in the coming days as pressure mounts, perhaps, as more information comes out from roger himself as he continues to give these interviews. And as we see what other developments come from the mueller investigation. This comes at sort of a nexus for the white house having reopened the government on friday there is a focus on whether or not there will be a deal with congress the next few weeks and there is focus on the investigation of muellers and the indictment of stone. We will talk about the government reopening in a moment i know that reporters were eager to ask the president about roger stone. We were. Were you surprised he didnt take any questions what do you think is behind that. I was surprised it is hard to tell when President Trump is going to take questions and when he is not more often than not he is willing to take questions. I was in the rose garden just a few weeks before when he was in sort of a similarsituation and went around sort of down the line and took questions from all of us. Uhhuh. The stone one was definitely at the top of my list if he had called on us or called on me he didnt. He ended up walking away and not taking any questions but i know that there were certainly some people who thought that he did that appearance to sort of distract from the roger stone news that day. He wouldnt have distracted if he had taken questions on. Perhaps that was the thinking behind it. Both of you stay with me as we get to the other big headline of the day, that being the government slowly lee reopening as members of congress are trying to avoid another shutdown the National Mall and National Parks resuming normal operations today but the effects of the shutdown is still going on the white house is vowing to pay back as soon as possible those two paychecks that workers missed during the shutdown but the clock yet again ticking with just 20 days to reach a Border Security compromise and this morning, the acting white house chief of staff defending the president s decision to back down without getting any funding for a border wall. He did what he did because Many Democrats had come to us, some of them privately, many spoke out publicly that they were actually starting to agree with him on the necessity for a barrier on the southern border they had come to us and said look we agree with you, you are winning the battle on the importance of a barrier on the southern border but we cannot work with you while the government is closed thats a marked difference from where the democrat leadership was. They said they wouldnt talk with us about the wall ever. I think the president saw a chance the try to take the democrats at their word. Betsy and jeff. Jeff, you first here really do you know that democrats came to the president saying, hey, you are definitely winning on the message here, but we cant work with you unless there is an open government. Lets put our Heads Together and do some big kumbaya moment did that happen . A spoke to an Administration Officials on friday who said they had seen hesitation or Movement Among democrats who had won close races in districts that President Trump won in 2016 and that they were showing some willingness to work on the wall. So there may be some truth to what Mick Mulvaney is saying there. That said, i think it is kind of hard to sort of reconcile that with suggesting that President Trump was winning the messaging war. The democrats stayed very, very unified during this entire time. And that was, you know, in large part because of nancy pelosi saying we have to stick together, we have to stick together and they did in the end, the acting chief of staff can say that but the bottom line is on friday the president didnt get a down payment for the wall like he had said just the day before was required instead, he just backed down. Mick mulvaneys statement there, betsy three options in your answer either it was true, or it was spin, or as jeff is intimating, it may be some big exaggeration. What do you think . It sounded to me like pretty classic spin and there was probably a certain element of exaggeration incorporated as well i think jeffs point is a really important one, which is while democrats remained publicly united about opposing giving trump any money for husband wall there are a number of new freshman democrats in the house who have a tenuous hold on the seats they won they won in part because there was such a National Backlash against trumps policies for many of those members they are looking for ways to position themselves as moderate, as willing to cooperate with the administration, as willing to be bipartisan and open to working across the aisle did any of those come to mulvaney and say you guys are winning the messaging war. Color me skeptical what i think is more likely that as white house officials are reaching out to some of the freshmen democrats they are having conversations that are poe tpgsly slightly different in tone than their conversations with House Democratic leadership does that have any Significant Impact on the way that money becomes available from congress to the president for Border Security i doubt it it is important to remember that even though the Democratic Caucus is united it is not a monolith. Jeff your piece layings down what went on behind the scenes of the president s announcement and you write that the outcome of the agreement was lastminute . One of the thing that happened is the Vice President and Jared Kushner brought a series of about four options to the president. One of them included the option that he ended up choosing on friday morning the other option, one of four, was to go ahead and declare that National Emergency they said that he sort of slept on it on thursday night, and then on friday decided to go with the route of letting Congress Give it another go and that one of the key factors that ended up helping to influence that decision was seeing that Law Enforcement, including the fbi, were not able to do their jobs at full strength. So he sort of weighed do i keep pushing for this wall, which i am trying to do to help Law Enforcement and help Border Security while at the same time it is hurting Law Enforcement right now. That anyway was the story that came from one of the sources to whom i spoke and in any case he ended up deciding on friday that that was the way he wanted to go, at least for now. Jeff mason and Betsy Woodruff always love talking to you guys. Questions from the to be russia probe investigator in the house. 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We know that the russians told the Trump Campaign as early as april of 2016 that they had the stolen emails we know that they offered dirt to the president s son, don jr. , and he said he would love to have the russian government help with that. And then we know that some person directed a Senior Campaign official to reach out to roger stone to find out what wikileaks had gotten from the russians and all this taking place while donald trump is pursuing what would probably be the most lucrative deal of his entire life and then of course all of the above, lying about all of the above. 100 contacts but probably a thousand lies. The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee adam schiff laying out some of the evidence surrounding a case of potential collusion. Joining me now, a democrat from california and a member of the oversight committee. Welcome, sir awfully glad to have you here. I want to opponent out what you just heard, representative schiff highlighting the finding. But there is a new poll which found that 55 of those surveyed found congress should not begin impeachment proceedings. Taking into context what we found out about roger stone, how do you feel about the impeachment proceedings today . Should we proceed . Should we wait i have great confidence in adam schiff, a topnotch prosecutor before he was in office also Elijah Cummings is a man of incredible integrity i think the big change is going to be starting in a few weeks we are going to do investigations unlike my republicans colleagues have done while they were in charge elijah says we are going to follow the facts to the truth. That will change those numbers people will see we are not politicizing it. We are doing what the congress and the house were supposed to do, and envisioned as the founding fathers, being a coequal branch of government and finding the truth. What investigations do you want to take place at least which do you first want to delve into . I work closely with our staff. We have a great staff on the oversight and government committee. I will support the chairman. He wants to go through this methodically just today the issues of security clearances and mr. Kushn kushner, thats a big concern. Elijah responded to that nbc reported that. Uhhuh. We have a lottan our plate. But we have to take a deep breath as adam and elijah will do and be objective about going after the truth. We want to show the public we are not the republicans, what they did to benghazi and how they politicized that. We have to be a cocall branch of government. I want to pivot and talk about the temporary Government Shutdown your state has daca citizens, what are your demands in a Border Security government would you fund some type of a border wall in exchange for permanent daca and tps protections . I have to say after this last incident it is very clear that the president and many of his associates are sociopaths, or at least in that kind of behavior i have been to the border. I have met with federal workers who havent been paid. Sociopaths dont have any empathy for the cruelty that they impose on other people. They are pathological liars, clinically and they have a great sense of grandiosity. That fits exactly what i have seen the president do during this shutdown. So we need to focus on the real issues we dont have the capacity at the border i have talked to judges. I have talked to Border Patrol people at the border to handle the influx of people seeking their legal right for asylum they need more help. Where we can do cost benefits and see where there is a need to secure the border better, then i am all in for that what happened is we created this political narrative developed by mr. Bannon and mr. Mueller in the white house to drive americans apart rather than focusing on the challenge and the problem at the border. How temporary do you think this threeweek reprieve is . How confident are you some deal can be struck in 20 short days. I think there is a deal between people on both sides of good faith, if they focus on the real issue only a heartless fool would shut the government down again after what we have been through. I support a bill that democrats and republicans should not shut the government down. It is cruel to the families. I have seen them here in northern california. They are trying to pay bills i had constituents calling me. I had a young woman who is pregna pregnant, she and her husband bought their first house and they are worried about cash flow thats ridiculous. We shouldnt do that to federal employees. We know Michael Cohen has postponed his testimony before your committee and cited quote threats by the president and his lawyer you wrote, sir, on twitter that if it is true that the president or anyone of his team threatened cohen it would be a clear violation of the law and a blatant attack on our democratic process. Do you think your committee should subpoena cohen . Absolutely. That sounds like obstruction of justice and tampering with a potential witness of congress. These are the things that you are going to have to be as you noted in your introduction, we are going to have to be of a demeanor where we are just following the facts to the truth. Clearly there are a lot of facts, as mr. Schiff just explained to you. What are the most pressing questions you would ask of him if he gets to you, if Michael Cohen gets to you via subpoena i would want to hear from him how many instances he was told by any of his clients, including the president of the United States, to not tell the truth, including under sworn testimony. So this is the basis of our whole system is you cant perjure yourself when you look at the roger moore indictment it is unredeemable. These are the things we have to get to we have to assure the American Public that we are doing it in their best interests not in our political interests. Democrat from california, representative mark desaulnier. 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The clock is already ticking on the president sdeadline for democrats to agree to some sort of immigration deal in order to avoid another Government Shutdown lets go to capitol hill mike, how does this look this week a bunch of feverish negotiations do you think well, it would be feverish or they could do what congress always does and put it off until the lastminute. Thats not a joke. Thats what they do. 11 00. 11 00 on the 14th the deadline being february the 15th for them to come sort of deal on Border Security. It is not likely to include much money, if any, for a wall. Nancy pelosi pretty much made that clear after she was taking her victory lap after the president appeared in the rose garden and acquiesced shall we say to the congresss demand today they are sifting through the wreckage of a recordlong shutdown 35 days. After which they got neither a policy nor a political victory republicans would have us believe that it was not a victory for nancy pelosi Mick Mulvaney the acting chief of staff says dont judge President Trump and whether or not it was a victory over what happened at the end of last week rather, judge him what happens at the ends of this process. Juan of the talking points republicans are using today is that democrats said all along that once you reopen the government they would negotiate. The government is open, lets start negotiating. Kevin mccarthy on meet the press this morning says there is no victory in the status quo. Nancy pelosi cant claim a victory because we still have a problem with immigration we still have in his estimation, a problem at the border. Heres more of what mccarthy had to tell chuck todd. In three weeks they said before if you open it then we will negotiate they wont. They are the ones causing the problem. They changed the course of what they voted for in the past Speaker Pelosi vote fahder a wall and barrier schumer had voted for a wall and barrier. Now they will not because it is President Trump . I think thats wrong. Alex, fact check there. Chuck shumer in 2006, we think mccarthy is referring to the secure fence act which possibled congress and resulted in several hundred miles of wall and fence being built. Pelosi didnt photo that are that secure fence act. Meanwhile, joakim saying this could be, quote, unquote, enhanced fencing in a final product final agreement. We will see what comes nm the next days. New reporting from the Washington Post says a dozen of undocumented employees at the president s golf club have been fired because of their legal status Barbara Mcquaid is back. The, woulders allegedly worked at the club at least a dozen years. Is the organization legally liable for this . Because it appears it wasnt necessarily checking important documentation properly or is it a problem if they knew that these employees were not of legal status and yet they employed them nonetheless. It is a crime to hire ten or more individuals who are here without permission, undocumented immigrants but the law does require actual knowledge of the persons undocumented status. Now, the law also says that to prove actual knowledge you cannot engage in whats known as willful blindness. That is if there are all kinds of clues standing out at you you cant ignore those and say oh, i didnt know. If the person lacks documentation you are supposed to he can which you are supposed to fill out a form and check the box as to which piece of identification you looked at to confirm they were eligible to work in the United States. There are a number of ways that that can be proved, that actual knowledge. I want to put up a quote from eric trump who says the organization is make an effort to identify any employee who has given false or fraudulent documents to unlawfully gain employment but there was some reporting in december that federal investigators were investigating allegations that the president s new jersey club provided some workers with fake green cards. I mean, how long would an investigation of this take it could take some time to figure out how that ring was working. But if thats happening, that is actually a very serious crime, to create false documents and provide them with workers is far worse than the crime i just described of maybe being duped by employees or maybe not being careful. Because that law does require actual knowledge but if you are proactively creating false documents so people can work illegally, that is a serious crime after 9 11 that crime became even more heinous because the hijackers used false documents to gain entry into the United States. 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I want to go over with you adrien a report we are just seeing that Hillary Clinton is not yet ruling out running in 2020 among the thing that are cited here is that she toldpeople as recently as this week that she is not closing the door to the idea of running in 2020. This just came out whats your reaction well, yeah, i saw that report i think it was jeff zeleny from cnn reported that this will morning during one of the sunday shows. Look, secretary clinton made it very clear that she would love to be president of the United States 63 Million People voted for her. I for one would love to see her as president of the United States i think this time it is going to be very difficult. There are plenty of advisors out there who would tell her the same thing the circumstances are different now. There is a lot of speculation, there are a lot of donors, democratic supporters who would like to see her run for president. It is not a surprise she may be having these conversations she made it clear she would labor to be president but trying to get from point a to point b is very difficult, especially in this type of environment. Rick, i saw you shaking your head given that you are a republican strategist i am not surprised. But what went through your mind when you heard that . My first thought was there were two people in the country who want Hillary Clinton to be president. One is Hillary Clinton the other is donald trump. It would be a great gift for donald trump to be able to relitigate 2016 all over again it would unify his base immediately because Hillary Clinton is this sort of demonic character thats been cast into that role for the gop. I had my hand in doing it over the years in the generations it would be a way for trump to reframe all of his failed presidency and all of his corrupt presidency and go back and say what about her emails wh what about this what about the and relitigate this with a a guy that it becomes a bondfire for fox news and the info war asks the crazies around him to reboot that and she doesnt do something for the base, i think, at this point that sufficient anymore. I dont think she gets the base as riled up as they need to be they need a change we had a long arc in politics of clintons and the obamas, dominating the political landscape. There are a new landscape of democrats out there addressing the rising base in the democratic party. John, do you agree with this take i do. I love secretary clinton in a just world she would be two years into her presidency right now. It is probably not the best cycle for her to run the thing that bothers me the most about her considering it is the one thing that reasonable folks could hold against her was some sense of entitlement. The entitlement that president obama derailed in 2008 and she was cheated but defeated in 2016 this feels like that entitlement like this is my spot meanwhile we have a young exciting diverse crop of candidates in 2020 i think it is time to pass the baton. Amy, you get the last word on this from the female politician perspective, Kamala Harris, elizabeth warren, gillibrand all having declared their run for the presidency or their speculation and looking a the possibility of doing so. Talk about that legacy at least that Hillary Clinton has. Sure. Well, as a republican, i actually favor the most qualified not just based on gender but since we are talking about females running for president , i do know that there are people out there who are excited about possibly a gabbard run and these are democrats that i have been speaking with. Senator warren as well she has been heavily campaigning on finance reform. Uhhuh. And then of course not a female, but people do love joe biden. I think it is time for hillary to step aside and let these democrats have their shot. Okay. I didnt want to get your reaction because we were just getting that report coming in to us now, as we look at the president s challenging week overall, you have roger stone being indicted you have him really getting nothing in terms of the, quote, deal that was made to reopen the government which of these issues, rick, ends up being worse for the president . I think the major loss for the president this week was that the fraud and the con of donald trump, that he is the master negotiator, that he is the king of the art of the deal, that he always wins when he sits down at the bargaining table was finally shattered. This is a guy who spent who threw our government and economy into chaos for 35 days and who insists, absolutely categorically that under no circumstances would he stop this shutdown unless he got 5. 7 billion for his wall, his physical barrier he walked out of the room withing no he didnt even have his pants on by the end of this negotiation he has been humiliated, been shamed, he was knocked down hard he got spanked hard by nancy pelosi and it still hurts so much he can barely sit down. Amy, your take . Well, i disagree with rick on that it was a tough pill to swallow i will not lie there were a number of republicans that were very disappointed and felt that he capitulated. However, i think that either side, you know, they were actually both duking it out and digging their heels in and not willing to compromise and come to the table but in the end we still needed to have somebody who was going to be the bigger person and unfortunately, or fortunately, whichever way you want to look at it, it was President Trump. What do you think don in terms of the issues the president faced this week . I know you want to respond to amy right there. Which one do you think is worse. They are both bad we talked about it in the last hour i think that the stone indictment is back because of what it pour tends for futur indictments, particularly the noncooperation indictment nonconspiracy count but also i think that the pelosi victory is huge because we still have two years this presidency this is january. To he mome it shows the presidet is a new day there will be no rolling the house for two years. You know the president isnt really loving the job. The house is here to make sure he despises the job he has to get up and do every day for two more years. Last word to you. 15 to 20 days to get this job done what about the chances they will come to a deal that will keep the government open . I think the chances are pretty good. Because i think President Trump has been, looking at his poll numbers realizing that 32 of the american electorate who has been with him through thick and thin that base is starting to decline and erode and a lot of it has to do with the fact that he was responsible, solely responsible, with all due respect to amy, for the Government Shutdown. So i think his side, and democrats have every super to not allow the government to shut down again by the way, there is a simple way to do this, to give dreamers a full path to citizenship and we can also have Stronger Security measures. 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New reaction from roger stone today about his indictment by the special counsel in the russia investigation here is what he said about the case against him any chance youll cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller if he asks you know, thats a question i would have to id have to determine after my attorneys have some discussion. Joining me now, jonathan alter, msnbc political analyst jonathan directed a documentary thats going to air tomorrow, monday at 8 00 p. M. On hbo cant wait to talk to you about this, but i do, jonathan, want to get your sense about roger stone. Will he flip he was unequivocal there we had you on yesterday. You mentioned you had known him for 30 years interviewed him at the Republican National convention the last go around. Right. What did he tell you . Well, one thing he told us was that stay tuned. Theres going to be dirt on Hillary Clinton coming out when my wife heard that, she thought, oh, this is news. But he had been tweeting the same thing at the time look, stone and i ive known him for as you mentioned 30 years. He was part of a Political Consulting firm called black manafort and stone black was an operative we know who manafort was what these guys did was they defended the sleaziest foreign dictators in washington, represented them as lobbyists. Theres no honor among thieves so its not entirely sure that, you know, he wont flip on trump. And that last indication from George Stephanopoulos program suggests hes leaving the door open to it but i think hes more likely to be a g. Gordon liddy type who plays to the Republican Base by going down flags flying, doing a little bit of time and coming out the other end with a big radio show that can help him get some of the money back that hes lost you know, hes been through so many incarnations. He was over the cover of swingers magazine dressed in leather. Okay. This guy is a real character. And you cant predict where hes going to go. 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