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Anger and defiance from david ka cameron. Its showing the execution of a british aid worker. The third westerner beheaded in recent weeks by the Islamic Militant group. Heres David Cameron today. They are killing and slaughtering thousands of people. Muslims, christians, minorities across iraq and syria. They boast of their brutality. They claim to do this in the name of islam that is nonsense. Islam is a religion of peace. They are not muslims, they are monsters. We have reaction today from the white house and Nbcs Kristen Welker. But first, lets head to london and get the latest there. Cassandra with a welcome, what have you learned about this new isis propaganda video . And what is the reaction there in britain . The video is released last night showing the execution of david haines an aid worker taken in syria. And isis militants threatened the life of another uk hostage. Its been received here with disgust, people are sick, and also the uk is grieving the loss of an aid worker who was taken during the work that he loved. Yeah, you can about imagine the kind of disgust going around the country there. Lets listen to a bit more of what Prime Minister David Cameron said today. Theres that. British people need to know that this is a fanatical Organization Called isil that has not only murdered a british hostage, they have planned and continue to plan attacks across europe and in our country. Is there anything specific, cassandra to that . Any specific threats to the homeland there in britain . Were not being told about any specific threats to the uk. But last month, the British Government raised the Terror Threat level to severe meaning an attack is highly likely. And as cameron told us today, he said this murder, this beheading of david haines only strengthens britains resolve to destroy isis. Were getting word that the brother of david haines is going to make a statement fairly soon. Are you hearing anything about those details . He is expected to make a statement shortly. Already hes come out and said that his brother will be horribly, horribly missed. He praised his work in syria and other conflict zones around the world and said thats what gave his brother the most joy was working for people who needed help the most. All right. Thank you for that. Lets go to the white house now and Nbcs Kristen Welker with more on this. Kristen, with a good day to you, whats the president saying about this new isis video . Well, making similarly strong statements to the ones you just heard from Prime Minister David Cameron, president obama saying that the United States is outraged by this. Let me read you a little bit of the statement he released. It says, quote, the United States stands shoulder to shoulder tonight with our close friend and ally in grief and resolve. We will work with the United Kingdom and a Broad Coalition of nations from the region and around the world to bring the perpetrators of this outrageous act to justice and to degrade and destroy this threat to the people of our countries, the region and the world. The question is, alex, what happens now . And how might this impact the United States efforts to build an International Coalition . And how might this pressure Prime Minister David Cameron and the people of the uk to get onboard with a more robust military response. And we know the United States has been launching air strikes in iraq. It seems as though syria is going to be next. This past week, the uk, not at least publicly being specific about how it might respond in terms of a military reaction. One top official there, though, saying they were not going to engage in air strikes against isis targets. And then, a spokesperson for Prime Minister David Cameron said wait a minute, we have not ruled that out yet. So the question becomes, alex, will this latest gruesome act put pressure on Prime Minister David Cameron to, perhaps, join the United States in terms of launching air strikes. We know that military action is very unpopular in the uk. But here in the United States where military action was very unpopular prior to the executions of those two americans, now polls show that 61 of americans support military action against isis. Secretary of state john kerry also speaking out this morning, alex, after, of course, he was trying to build an International Coalition among those arab nations. Heres what he had to say. Take a listen. Were not looking to put troops on the ground. There are some who have offered to do so. But we are not looking for that at this moment, anyway. The answer is, yes, there are some that have said that. There are some that are clearly prepared to take action in the air alongside the United States. And to do air strikes, if thats what theyre called on to do. So, alex, the headline from that statement that you just heard from secretary of state john kerry is that he says he has gotten some assurances from some countries. Although hes not naming the specific countries that they will be putting boots on the ground. Thats significant because military Officials Say it is impossible to defeat isis through air strikes alone. Absolutely. We are getting, at least, the number ten and in doing the research, you can look to history who has stood shoulder to shoulder to varying degrees. But youre right, no specifics yet. When we get them, i know well get them from you. Thanks. Joining me now with more is washington editor at large and an msnbc contributor. Welcome. Lets talk about this new video. It marks a new moment. Youve got a british citizen now being beheaded by a man believed to be a fellow british citizen. You could hear the anger in Prime Minister camerons voice. Do you expect this to change the uks involvement . Well, i think it deepens the passion about the response that british citizens and really westerners in general feel about wanting to do something with regard to isis. This is a very emotional moment. But on the other side of this, i think its important to remember that isis is taunting the west. Isis is saying come into our zone. Fight us because theyre using these taunts as a way to try to legitimate themselves in the eyes of other muslims as being those that are fighting Great Britain, the United States. And so we have to look at both sides of the equation here. Its a horrible, horrible video. And my heart goes out to the family and friends of david haines. We have to ask ourselves, why is isis doing what its doing . Well, as you know, in all three execution videos, isis is saying their killing is in direct response of air strikes and the like. Inside the Decision Making with the white house and the pentagon, is this influencing, effecting the thought process Going Forward . Well, theres no doubt its changed the political ground. Exactly why this is deepening the resolve of many british folks to do something more robust, and i think they will. It has changed as youve shown in the polls in the United States, the way americans feel about taking military action again in the middle east. When we have this similar set of conditions with a lot of people dying as a result of chemical weapons and the possibility of u. S. Action in syria, americans were not prepared to support the president. So these beheading videos have completely changed the on the ground realities in the United States and the white house sees that as giving itself more options to respond. Well, and specifically from the political perspective, youve got the Washington Post with an article out today, looks at the uncertainty in the Intelligence Community about the actual danger isis poses to here, the u. S. Homeland. It notes the president has said in his speech on wednesday, there have been no specific threats to the u. S. At this point. And yet, he has declared war on isis with a sense of urgency. Talk about the change this is for this president. Well, i think with regards to the potential threat to the United States, if this doesnt go responded to in some way, weve already seen quite a lot of attention to those people who have gone to sort of train with isis to engage themselves in syria and weve heard former cia analysts and others like bob bair report about the fact some of these people have come back to the United States have gone back to the uk. So we dont know what that represents. But, you know, to many, that looks scary, that looks like a lurking threat out there. And i think thats part of the question. It doesnt mean you want to sort of hyperventilate and overrespond and create problems doing that. But i think it would be naive to think there are other issues here. What i worry about is we now see john kerry out in the region trying to assemble a lot of support to basically help a u. S. Led mission against isis in the region when, in fact, people like myself have said we cant bring arab nations in on the lowest level of engagement, they need to be the maximum level, in fact, they need to be seen as leading and spitting on isis. Showing theres no space in the Sunni Islamic world for what isis is doing. And that seems to be the missing component, which i think is the most vital component. You make an excellent point there. Theres also this, former cia counterterrorism expert, he was quoted in the article. And he said the u. S. Air strikes turned isis focus toward the west. Do you think theres a chance that until the Bombing Campaign began, isis was more in the mold of the taliban. They were looking to establish a caliphate state. Paul pillar is one of the best analysts, but i think at the end of the day, the precursors to isis were al qaeda and iraq and others we know well wants to define themselves and be defined in the spheres for which theyre performing as being a global player. And the way to become legitimate in the eyes of angry sunnis in iraq and upset folks in syria and others is to be seen being challenged by Great Britain, by the United States, by france, by nato. And so i dont i dont quite buy the notion that it was a kind of indigenous force, fighting for something and had no interest in attacking the west. I think attacking the west was probably all, you know, along part of their game plan. Okay. Steve clemens, always a pleasure, thanks so much. Come see us again. Thank you. Also in the news now, a north korean Court Sentencing an american tourist to six years of labor. Convicted today of entering the country illegally to commit espionage. The california man reportedly tore up his visa and asked for asylum upon arriving in pyongyang. A man hunt is intensifying for the shooter or shooters who killed one state trooper and injured another. They believe the ambush was a targeted attack. The shooting happened friday night and well bring you a live report on that in the next half hour. A Malaysian Airlines flight had to turn back because of an autopilot defect. The airline stressed the defect did not have impact on the safety of the plane or its passengers. Calling the move a precautionary measure. Two major disasters this year. Supporters of Hillary Clinton are calling it her iowa homecoming. The former secretary of state will join former president clinton in a couple of hours for the annual steak fry. Its one of the most highly anticipated traditions in the Hawkeye State. At the steak fry for us in indianola, iowa, casey, its good to see you. This event has been so popular with the democratic president ial hopeful. What are you expecting to hear from her . Sure. Well, officially shes here to celebrate tom harkin and his retirement. But unofficially, this is being treated as the kickoff, the early stage of a potential 2016 clinton candidacy. And she does have a lot to prove to these voters. Although shes stepping into this state in a much different position. The question is going to be, what are we going to hear from her in her speech . Is it going to be something where she takes on the political themes and issues of the day . Or is she only going to give the attendees here sort of a cheering for senator harkin . And i think, youre hearing a lot of desire the people ive been talking to in iowa for her to come here and actually lay out what her political vision might be in a way that leads them to believe that she is taking this path down the road to a president ial campaign. Theres over 5,000 people who have rsvpd here today. And theres a sense she comes in in a very strong position. There are some people who mentioned to me they might be looking for an alternative, maybe somebody a little to the left, maybe a different face. The big difference, there is no barack obama waiting in the wings and shes operating from a position of strength. Yeah. Can we talk some specifics about the steak fry . Does a steak actually get fried there in these 37 years its been going . The steak does not actually get fried. It was called the steak fry by the woman who founded it originally, it was a small fundraiser for tom harkin when the local boy was running originally for congress. They called it a steak fry because other events were a fish fry. They do actually fry fish at fish fries, but here theyre critic grilling thousands of pounds of steak. He says hes going to miss doing it quite a bit. Okay. I also understand they do have veggie burgers available for those who choose that, too. And theres chicken available. Its appealing to everybody. Thank you so much. 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At least one womens Advocacy Group is going to be flying banner planes, three today, one tomorrow where games are being played. The focus, the nfl commissioner Roger Goodell still under fire. Those banners readi reading goodellmust go. Players and fans will return nationwide today after one of the nfls worst weeks ever. The tmz sports video, criticism of the commissioner and another mug shot. This time, one of the leagues biggest stars. Even though his face is on todays ticket, Adrian Peterson will miss the game, benched by the team after he was charged with injury to a child, reckless and criminal neglect. Peterson hasnt commented since posting bond saturday after he was accused of disciplining his 4yearold son with a wooden switch, a small tree branch. That plea was not reasonable and did not reflect the Community Standard of what was reasonable discipline. Petersons attorney says, adrians a loving father who used judgment as a parent. And while ray rice wont be on the field either, he was on the sidelines saturday at the High School Football game, his arm wrapped around his wife janay. Also with him, the couples daughter raven. Ray, is there anything you want to say to your fans . Huh . Still, no comment for reporters. Rices former coach defended the suspended star. He made a very terrible mistake. But i know the character of the man, and he will rise from this. Reporter with the handling of Domestic Violence cases under fire, analysts say the nfl is particularly sensitive to the growing base of female fans. Its a more untapped market. And the reason is that if moms dont want their sons to play football, thats going to be a problem for continuing to grow in the sport. Theres also a new tweet making the rounds on twitter. Well put it up on the screen for you to get a look at it. This is an image of the makeup line. You can see its photo shopped to look like the woman, the model has a black eye. A lot of scrutiny on Roger Goodell. Unclear if he will be at any of the nfl stadiums today. Joining me now is dana jacobson. And welcome to you. So, Peter Alexander report right there. We heard about the support from rices High School Coach. Why are people looking at ray rice as a victim more in some cases than janay rice being the victim . Is that the nature of a sports star . Or is it specific to ray rice . I think thats some of it. I think people dont know how to embrace a victim of Domestic Violence. Especially one that says, stay out of my life. Youve destroyed my life and isnt fighting back against her abuser. And then, yes, in the case of ray rice, this is somebody that until this incident had been a role model in the league and had done so much for the league and his team and everybody looked to him in that new Rochelle Community at rutgers. This is a star, someone we can be proud of. So then this behavior that seemed so not ray rice. And i think people dont know how to respond without saying, well, we remember this other guy, we cant just put this one moment ahead of all of that. How about your listeners . What are they saying . Its a mix. And i have to tell you, i know we heard a lot of this after the thursday night game where there were women out there saying, i support him, this isnt fair. And i started looking back. We got some of those calls. Stay out of it, this is their personal business. This is Domestic Violence and thats what it hides behind. Its not their personal business. And i looked back to warren moon, almost 20 years since he was acquitted of abuse against his now exwife. She didnt want to testify against him. And there was so much at that time said afterwards by jurors saying this is what happens between married couples. Bruises, cuts, choking someone. How far have we come . Almost 20 years and were hearing some of that well, this is just what happens. We saw her get knocked, punched out, knocked to the floor. Thats not what happened between married couples. No, i always question why Domestic Violence has to use the word domestic. Its just violence. But yesterday, i spoke with trevor price. He seemed adamant that commissioner goodell could not have seen that second tape before this past week. He says hes a very sensible guy. First of all, do you agree with that . And even if goodell didnt see it, do you think his jobs going to be in jeopardy for the overall handling of this . Well, i want to believe how could you see that second tape and come down with a twogame suspension. But how could you see the exterior of the tape. I dont know what happened at the nfl and i hope that the investigation is going to lead to maybe some answers because it seems very murky and unclear. If a tape got there, how was it that the commissioner never saw it. As for his job security, we have to remember, there is a huge difference between what were saying in the public and public opinion, which can put pressure on a team like the Carolina Panthers. But when it comes to Roger Goodell, hes made billions for the league and it comes down to the 32 nfl owners, 24 would have to vote him out. And i think he has a lot of collateral with them and a lot of things have gone right under his watch. And it might not even be the best move. To take a man who at least right now is owning up to making some type of mistake. Youre not going to get rid of this problem of Domestic Violence by saying get rid of the commissioner. This goes to the owners in the league and what they want. Maybe with goodell there, punishment, suspension, give some of that 35 million bonus money to Domestic Violence and education. Maybe then they can make inroads instead of saying, well, we got rid of the guy in charge so the problem is gone. Thats not the problem. They have systemic issues, but its only a part. Thats a bigpicture perspective there. Lets fold in here the Adrian Peterson case. Ray rice has already been through the judicial system. Hes in a pretrial intervention program. Peterson could face far worse because his case is just starting. Do you think this changes how the nfl might handle their cases Going Forward . Well, theyve already. In the Ben Roethlisberger case, it didnt need the judicial process system to play out. So theres already a precedent there that we dont have to have resolution from a court in order for punishment to be handed down. I think what will be interesting to watch for the vikings, they dont really have precedent here. If theyre just learning, information is coming out and this likely wouldnt go to a trial until next year, do they keep deactivating him . And in that case, does the Nfl Players Association get involved . Hes getting a paycheck. But does he have a right to play . I honestly dont know that answer. I know the vikings were aware of what was going on when this happened back in may. And theyve been following it. This was the first time, though, they heard the word criminal attached to it, obviously, in the complaint, and then with peterson going down to turn himself in yesterday. So they did the right thing by deactivating him. But Going Forward at some point, i dont know what that right answer is for them or for their fans. I guess you could say if you have this hanging over you, do you want him representing you on the field . Now as i told you in the commercial break, i loved you on espns cold pizza. A family heartbreak and anguish. In minutes, well hear from the brother of the hostage killed by isis. A cop killers on the loose somewhere in the northeast. Why didnt police find him . To fill your Viagra Prescription online . Go to viagra. Com to find out about viagra Home Delivery. Millions of men have some degree of erectile dysfunction. 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Reporter well, i think isis is sending a message to the world. Its sending its message to its own potential recruits. Its sending a message to al qaeda that it wants to replace them. Its clearly sending a message to turkey, to the uk. And, i believe its sending a message to turkey. Turkey shares a long border with syria. Just on the other side of the border are places where isis has headquarters. Turkey traditionally has been the base of the moderate rebels, the Free Syrian Army. And most importantly, in this case, there are more than 40 turkish hostages being held by isis. Isis hasnt talked about them much. The turkish government doesnt talk about them. Its illegal for the turkish media to talk about them. And it is one of the reasons weve seen a great reluctance from turkey to get more involved. So isis is sending out this message to a lot of people. But the turks in particular are listening with great personal concern. They dont want to see their diplomats in the same orange jump suits that american journalists and british aid workers have been finding themselves in, unfortunately. How about the reaction to the video in iraq . Whats that been like . Well, here in iraq, the stories weve been hearing about encounters with isis have been, if anything, on the same level or more terrifying. We talked to refugees and here, unbelievable stories. Ive been doing this for a long time. And you dont hear the kind of horrific things that you often hear when refugees escape from an area about women being enslaved, sold into marriage. We have forced conversions of christians on a large scale. And when they dont convert, they are being executed with christians being enslaved and used as labor for the isis fighters. Just, humanitarian catastrophe by this brutal group that is holding hostage, but holding towns and cities in iraq and syria hostage, as well. All right, Richard Engel as always, thank you so much for weighing in on this. And joining me now with the view from capitol hill, adam schiff member of the intelligence committee. And with a welcome to you, sir. First of all, i want to get your reaction to this execution of david haines. A british aid worker who simply had gone to syria to help people. Its absolutely horrific. And all of us, our hearts go out to the family of this latest victim of isis brutality. Heres a person who dedicated their life to trying to help people in distress. He was there to help refugees from the civil war and syria. And his reward is being beheaded by this monstrous group. I certainly think its going to have an impact on britain which now sees some of its citizens in both the role of executioner and murder victim. And so terrifying event, just appalling and heartbreaking. And im sure what the brother has to say is just going to be awful to hear from a humanitarian point of view. Absolutely. And we are monitoring and waiting for that statement. David haines was kidnapped along with his colleague. Italy pays ransoms and right now hes home, safe, david haines is not. It begs the question, is it time to reconsider america and the uks policy on paying ransoms . I dont think it is. I cant see us basically funding isis by paying ransoms. I think that only encourages further hostage taking. Im sure if this was a member of my family, i would but saying quite the opposite. But i think as a national policy, we cant be paying these ransoms. And i join the president in discouraging other countries from doing it, too. It simply has earned them subsequent members of their country being kidnapped and, i just dont think we want to be in the business of helping to fund these groups and encourage further kidnap attempts. But in all honesty, is anything the u. S. Doing going to free the remaining hostages . Well, its very hard. I think we took an enormous effort, and the president really put a lot on this on the line by trying to rescue the hostages earlier. Im proud he did that even though that attempt was unsuccessful. That couldve ended badly. We couldve had a lot of our People Killed in that fire fight in the heartland of isis. So that was, i think, quite a dramatic and risky thing we shouldve done. And its heartbreaking it was unsuccessful and looks like it wasnt unsuccessful by many days they had been moved, unfortunately. But i dont know whether another attempt like that was possible. I would imagine isis is moving their hostages and wary of any further rescue attempt. Im not sure theres much we can do in this situation. On friday, the white houses classification of the conflict was upgraded to a new level. Lets take a listen to this. The United States is at war with isil in the same way. I think we are at war with al qaeda, and its al qaeda affiliates all around the globe. We are at war with isil and al qaeda around the world. We know we are in war with isil in the same way were at war with al qaeda and the affiliates. So those were the white house, state department and Pentagon Press secretaries making it quite clear the u. S. Has declared war on isis. We did not hear declaration of war on Congress Even though youre the ones that can legal do it. Does this need to go to a vote . Absolutely. They are saying this is war. And only congress has the power to declare war. But then they add on that second phrase just in the same way were at war with al qaeda. I think were doing that because the lawyers are telling them, were relying on this 2001 amf that lets us go after al qaeda. But that is a very slender legal argument to make. This is a different foe in a different country at a different time. And this is exactly the kind of question that Congress Needs to weigh in on with a vote to authorize the use of force. I hope well do it this week. Although, i have to say my expectations are low. Isnt that supposed to pertain to the perpetrators of 9 11 in. It is. Its supposed to be empower the president to go after al qaeda and those responsible for harboring those that attacked us on 9 11. And, of course, isis has been excommunicated from al qaeda. They were often fighting with the al qaeda franchise in syria. So its a pretty weak argument in my view from a constitutional point of view. And this Administration Made clear the president lacked the unilateral authority to initiate military strikes unless there was an imminent threat. And the administration has said that at this point isis doesnt pose that imminent threat. So Congress Really needs to act. We dont need to be asked by the president to do so. And i intend to introduce a narrow authorization this week to give us a chance to do so. Adam schiff, always a pleasure, thank you so much. Thank you. Office politics, my conversation with kady kay. 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Reporter for troopers, stopping car after car along this pennsylvania roadway, its personal. Two of their fellow officers gunned down in a brazen ambush friday night right at their police barracks. The one thing i can say, this is unbelievably heartbreaking to all of us. Both of them were young troopers with families. Corporal brian dixon was killed by the shoots, Alex Douglass was injured and rushed to surgery. Hes been in critical but stable condition. Police immediately fanned out into the dense woods nearby. Several roads and a major highway were shut down. We saw a lot of state police, there were some ambulances. Choppers scanned for any sign of a suspect or suspects. Were going to use every possible technique and piece of equipment we have until we have this person in custody. There are still few details of the attack. So police from neighboring states are now expanding the search all on high alert. As are those who live nearby. Were all sort of on pins and needles. I understand that many members of the community are concerned, and i wish i could lessen their concern. But we have a very dangerous, armed criminal. But in the rural northeast pennsylvania town, people are also united in their sympathy. At his restaurant, gregory is feeding troopers who have been working almost nonstop since friday. If we could do anything to help them, you know, this is what we do. Its a small town. So were here to help any way we can. A Community Coming to grips with its loss, even as the search for a killer continues. Our prayers go out to the officers, their family, the barracks and, you know, the whole local area. And alex, police wont say if this was a lone gunman. Theyre searching for a motive in the attack. All right, kristen. Thank you for that update. The bbcs kady kay and the funny way in which american politicians have the edge over brits in parliament. But first, i asked her about the vote for Scottish Independence from Great Britain. If on the 18th of september, scotland votes for independence, that is a huge deal and hugely unexpected. If you had asked me six months ago if this referendum could possibly lead to scotland being an independent country, id said you came from planet mars. It was inconceivable. And yet, now we have for the first time polls showing that a majority of scotts would like independence. And i think, you know, its really been a kind of heart versus head campaign. That need for kind of being an independent country, for being scotland, all the history that means, the antagonism is coming to head in this referendum against, is it good economically longterm . What does it mean for scotlands National Security . What would it mean for social services . And what would it mean to be a small independent country . Would it be part of the european union. Would it be part of nato . All of those questions havent been resolved during the course of this campaign. When president obama took office, it seemed like the rest of the world, especially europe was hungry for this kind of presidency for the image, what it all meant, particularly after the george w. Bush years. Where does this stand now . Europeans have went after 2008, europeans thought the messiah had been elected in america. Wed gone through a period of really intense antiamericanism, george bush was seen as a guntoting texan who doesnt understand the world and caused havoc everywhere. And there was a real antipathy amongst europeans and along comes president obama and everyone falls in love with him. And we wanted to vote in this election, too. And some of that blush has worn off. I would state that the europeans are still more think barack obama as still more cool than americans do. The scale has not fallen from european eyes to the degree its fallen from american eyes. I think all of europeans are aghast at the paralysis in america. And americas inability to act on basic things that would make the country strong. I mean, we looked at the debt crisis and thought, whats going on . I mean, really . Really, america could possibly do this . Do you see anything like this in the British Parliament . Its a totally different system. In a parliamentary system, youre elected into office and you have pretty much free reign to do what you want and the job is to sit there and say no, no, no, no. In a way, in america you have that, the republicans say no, no, no. And it doesnt work. Your system is built on and for cooperation, but theres no cooperation. So the system doesnt work. Right. And we just have a very different system. We are brits and europeans are endlessly fascinated by american politics, by the size of it and the color of your personalities and the money you spend on it and the length of your campaign. We have nothing we have gordon brown, even the name is kind of boring, right . 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And i was thinking they were going to walk past. They came straight into where we were. And very deliberately, they shot everybody around us. I never looked up, i never saw anything. It was just a sound of just they say now it is your time. We have come for you. Joining me now is the producer and director of terror at the mall. Dan reid. So much of this film was about the individual heroism of the survivors and those that came forward. When the system broke down. The military arguing outside. Strangers pleading for the lives of their children. Whats your biggest take away when talking to the survivors . My biggest take away, personally, when you were caught in this kind of situation, run, dont hide. That would be my, yeah, my take away in terms if i was chatting to a friend. The overriding, you know, tactically what to do if youre caught in a attack like this. If you hide, youre a sitting duck. And most of the people who were killed were shot lying trying to hide somewhere in the mall, just lying down, it was a cowardly massacre. Interestingly, though, one of the most powerful stories of the film was from that one woman hiding with her baby. Were going to play a little bit of that and what she said. As im looking at them, the terrorist thats in the middle in the front looks at us and sees the baby peering around and turns his head to the side and kind of cocks his head and makes this cute baby face and waves at me and waves at the baby. And i just remember thinking if they see my face now, theyre going to know how crazy i think this is. I cant believe what just happened. Theyre killing women and children and theyre making baby faces at us and waving. I mean, what is that . You hear hints of humanity in these terrorists but killed so many others in cold blood. Was there any kind of logic as to why some survived and others died . I think there was kind of a change of plan. There were further instructions given over the phone. These guys were in touch with their masters in somalia. I think, you know, after the initial shooting spree in which they gunned anyone down regardless of faith or sex or age, they were told, you know, maybe slow down, maybe release some muslims, release some women and children, show that were not being completely indiscriminate in the attacks. I think its a case of, you know, an updated set of instructions, partly. Something that might make this footage so incredibly terrifying to the viewers is really the juxtaposition of it. Youve got this shopping mall, it gets transformed into a war zone. You think thats the true goal of terrorism to bring fear to what we find common place and familiar . Exactly. I think this attack, shopping mall, the place where we all go, where we feel relaxed, where were vulnerable around the world, you know. People can easily imagine this happening to them. And i think thats, you know, thats if you want to call this an effective terrorist attack. The idea this could happen to e me, where i live, where i go, thats terror. This attack was perfectly suited to propagating that sense of fear. And, dan, these survivors you speak to a year later, in general, how are they doing . Does this does their experience haunt them on a daily basis . I think they are all haunted. I think they deal with it. You know, some better, some worse. A lot of the people that i interviewed were remarkably, you know, in good shape, very strong. But its certainly something thats completely as it would, as you would imagine changed their lives. They now think, yes, this could happen. There were all people like you and me, oh, it could never happen. And it did happen to them. And its changed the way they see the world. Most of them are dealing with it quite well, especially the moms, you know, i told three stories of mothers hiding with children in the mall. 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We have new reaction just in from the family of david haines who was executed in the new propaganda video released by ice sis militants. As youll be aware, our brother, son, father, nephew, husband and friend was brutally and coldbloodedly murdered after being held hostage since march 2013. We have as a family received all support and cooperation. We can only praise and give our thanks to the agencies that have helped us during our time of need. Calls it an act of pure evil. It sums up with this organization stands for. They are killing and slaughtering thousands of people. They make no secret of their desire to do harm to any countries or peoples who seek to stand in their way or dare to stand for values they disagree with. Lets go to the white house and Nbcs Kristen Welker. Reporter well, strong words from president obama as well who sharply condemned the brutal killing of david haines. It says, quote, the United States stands shoulder to shoulder tonight with our close friend and ally with grief and resolve. The United States vowing to bring together an International Coalition to deal with the threat with isis. Will this latest beheading put pressure on Prime Minister David Cameron to, perhaps, join the United States in terms of launching air strikes . We know that secretary kerry earlier today said that the United States had gotten some commitments from a number of countries saying essentially they would put some boots on the ground, that they would join the United States in air strikes if that is what was asked of them. Kerry was not specific about which countries have promised that. We know that secretary kerry has been crisscrossing the middle east. Ten arab nations signed a communique essentially promising some type of military aid, humanitarian aid. That International Coalition is starting to come together, but there are a lot of questions about what specifically it will look like. Of course, the United States has already begun launching air strikes in iraq, 160 of them at last count. And it is believed that syria will be the next country to undergo air strikes at isis targets, alex. Well, in terms of what it would look like, we heard Dennis Mcdonagh talking about that. Whats he saying . Thats right, he did, alex, the administration wants to be very careful to explain to the American Public what this military operation is going to look like. And theyre drawing sharp contrasts between this and the ground wars in iraq and afghanistan, for example, making it very clear there are not going to be u. S. Boots on the ground. Any boots put on the ground are going to come from those who are actually in the region. Heres a little bit of what Dennis Mcdonagh had to say on meet the press. Take a listen. This effort against isil is something well undertake with a Broad Coalition of nations. And its something not like the war in iraq where were going to have hundreds of thousands of Ground Troops in the effort. But rather, this is something thats going to be concerted, targeted and its a war we have to win. Reporter and so, alex, you hear him use that term war underscoring the fact that the United States has shifted the way it now sees this fight against isis. Were also getting new polling numbers, the latest wall street journal poll shows that 61 of americans support military action against isis, but only 31 of them believe that the president s plan at this point in time will be effective. So the administration clearly has some convincing to do on that front. But they do have the backing of the vast majority of americans to move forward with this operation. Kristen, thanks for that. Were going to pick right up with what you were saying. Because at any time now, the United States could be launching air strikes inside syria. But now the Assad Government wants to play a role, something the Obama Administration has called a no go. Joining me now from damascus, syria, bill neely. Hello, bill. Reporter yes, hello, alex, from syria. The killing of a third western hostage and a threat to kill a fourth is, of course, designed to terrorize, intimidate and to pressure western governments. It certainly wont deter them as president obama made clear saying we stand shoulder to shoulder today with the uk. But theres no doubt the president faces some hard choices now. Weve heard his intention to degrade and destroy isis here in syria, as well. Thats the rhetoric, if you like, the reality when does he order air strikes here in the country where western hostages are being killed. Can he do anything to stop further hostages being murdered . Where does he strike . Who are the moderate rebels who might retake the ground after u. S. Air strikes . And does he coordinate those air strikes in any way with the syrian regime, who this morning have been using their war planes to bomb rebels about a mile, mile and a half behind me here in damascus. So there is no doubt there is pressure now on the president. Not just because of these videos, its an immensely complex situation. As i say on the edge of damascus, not isis trying to take areas. But another rebel group, which is allied to al qaeda. Now, in what respect could they ever be regarded as americas allies . And how do you tackle isis without strengthening president assad. So the choices for the president in iraq and here in syria are very different. But the most immediate choice. Is there anything he can do to stop the killing of yet another western hostage. Back to you, alex. Bill neely, thank you much. The new nbc news wall street journal poll shows 68 of americans lack confidence that the u. S. Will accomplish the goals laid out by president obama expressing the doubts the u. S. And its allies will be able to degrade and defeat. To take action against isis in iraq and syria while 22 oppose it. On the heels of that, lets bring in managing editor and White House Reporter from the Washington Post david macnumora. I think i interpret it as americans have a long memory. Theyve seen what it means. They know that president bush was in office for two terms left without getting bin laden, that came later under president obama. Even as the president tried to get bin laden, you know, there was an attack on a cia station in afghanistan. Theyre very, very clear, i think, now on what it means to have a fight like this. So while they support the president and want to see isis diminish, destroyed, degraded, its because they perceived the threat that the president does. But they also know that theres no easy answer here. Yeah. David, do you get a sense of how the white house is interpreting these numbers . Well, i think the white house knows they have a challenge. Even the way the president walked up to his speech sort of taking his time, taking a lot of criticism that he hadnt acted strong enough. There was a reason the white house did that. They wanted to sort of change the government in iraq to get a more stable coalition there. They wanted to work on International Partners and to get partners in the arab sworwo as well. And now, youre looking at a strategy that has no particular end date. Youre going into a country that is very uncertain with its own civil war as your report just talked about and relying on countries such as saudi arabia, agreements with iran and the idea theyre going to train Ground Troops with the Free Syrian Army which just last year the administration was saying unreliable ground force. I think thats why theres a lot of doubt as to what really the end goal is and how long its going to take there and whether we have the means to do it. Whats interesting, the president has said, he welcomes congressional support for this. But hes also said, look, i have the authority to go ahead. And thats getting reaction from members of his own party and that would include lets listen to what he said. I think this is a new war, a new chapter, and a long standing problem in the middle east. And congress has the responsibility and the obligation of taking it up, declaring war or authorization to use force and circumscribing in my view, the nature of that war. Members of congress saying weve got to take a vote. Those sentiments echoed, as well. So what do you think happens . Is this a vote that all members of congress would want to take especially with midterms looming . Right. And i think thats exactly it. I think there are members of congress who are incumbents who are seeking reelection who dont want a vote who are trying to distance themselves from this. Weve seen others, both republicans and democrats, frankly, who would like an opportunity to vote who arent up for reelection, you know, senator john mccain is a perfect example of a republican on one side who has been pushing for a vote knowing hes totally safe not facing voters again right now. But i think, you know, i think the president just Going Forward and saying, look, this is whats going to happen, you know, you can act in congress any way you want. And we still dont see Congress Moving forward on anything, and they have the authority to go ahead and vote on something if they want. Okay. Hey, david, weve been talking about isis releasing this new execution propaganda video. What is the reaction youre hearing from your sources in the white house . I think last night, at first, they were a bit cautious talking about theyre going to leave it to David Cameron, but then he did come out and talked about a brutal murder and reiterated the vow to degrade and destroy isis. In some ways, both sides are playing their own game. Isis, i think, wants to stir up this kind of emotion and bring sort of the attention theyre getting worldwide. At the same time, i think the administration believes these kind of propaganda videos while dangerous and ability to maybe recruit new recruits, you know, to the cause, at the same time, hopefully well stir sort of International Support and new partnerships that sort of backs the u. S. Effort here. Is it the kind of thing that might also stir congress to take a vote on this . Seeing these kind of horrific videos, propaganda videos . And there may be more to come . Perhaps. And i think david makes a good point, too. Which is the original killings of the two americans journalists was shocking to the American Public. You know, an overwhelming number of americans know about that. 94 . 94 to anything else. Anything. Its extraordinary. It had a huge impact. We see today, australia getting involved. Supporting the president , supporting this effort. It could very well be that congress is moved enough and it could very well be, as david said, helping to get other people more stronger partnerships involved in the coalition. Yeah. Hey, david, in terms of coalition from arab states, what kind of coalition will secretary kerry be able to cobble together . I think that remains to be seen. Theyve already announced, you know, partnership with saudi arabia, train syrian fighters. Thats an important step. And obviously, you know, theyre talking about maybe training other forces, as well, and of course, the iraqi forces. 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Yeah, i think what the league is faced with is an intolerance by the public for a lot of these cases that seem to have been mishandled and the teams are taki taking into their own hands so i think theyre looking at these cases a little bit closely now, theyve seen the backlash, especially on social media. Yeah. And i think theyre worried about the image issues right now. Big time. Interesting. Ray rice showed up, as you know his old high school, new rochelle here in new york. And he wanted to watch a game there. Showed up with his wife and his daughter. Lets take a look at what the High School Coach said about that. The new rochelle Football Program is a Strong Program and once youre a member of that program, youre a member of that program for life. And ray is a part of our family and a part of this program, and thats why im very happy hes here today. Its all about timing. I know you were at the game, youre writing a book and happened to be there all week at the new rochelle high school. Talk about the reaction. Two things happening here. Sort of the institutional response. What should the nfl be doing. And the insular response. Ray is a part of that family there. And that was the coach there for 25 yores, won a state championship with ray, a huge mentor with ray in his life. Two years ago, three years ago, not because of this event. Ive never heard anyone condone or make excuses for anything ray has done. But at the same time, they are welcoming him as the family member. They did take his hall of fame stuff down. They want kids to see there are consequences. Terrible mistake, you dont do this. But theyre also saying, look, hed been a guy who has come to this community and given a lot of time, given money, were going to allow you to get your life back. In terms of what theyre looking for with robert mueller, do you know what theyre looking for in the investigation . I think the smoking gun is did Roger Goodell see that video. Its an interesting investigation. Its an interesting investigation because theyre overseeing it and before this had come out with a letter in support of Roger Goodell. Adrian peterson, how damaging is this to his career, potentially . Well, it absolutely could end his career ultimately. He has one count of injuring a child. The biggest thing for the issue was the image damaged again coming after ray rice. And how are they going to handle it . I think the vikings did the right thing. They deactivated them today. It doesnt take money out of his pockets. I think whats going to happen with his career with adrians career would be meted up with the judicial system. Getting back to the league. You know, until everything happened with ray rice. Adrian probably would have been on the field. 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I dont think shes going to do anything to distract from tom harkin today. This is his day, hes retiring, a lot of history there between the clintons and the har kins. Hinge shes going to talk about his legacy, the 2016 candidates. And stay entirely away from 2016. Your article, the latest one is titled Hillary Clintons long, difficult history with iowa. What do you mean . Well, iowa has never been friendly to the clintons. Never been their home state. Harkin in 1992 ran for president , so bill clinton didnt bother campaigning here. When clinton came in 2008, none of her senior staff had experience here. They considered skipping the state entirely. And when a memo expressing that leaked, it was a huge bombshell. She was, you know, totally outmaneuvered by barack obama, came in third on iowa caucus night, which was a huge embarrassment for this front runner. And its really the state that derailed Hillary Clinton. Its the state that made barack obama the president of the United States. A new poll among the Iowa Democrats shows Hillary Clinton is way ahead of 53 and Vice President biden, hes coming in second at 15 . How big an event, alex, is this for potential president ial hopefuls with the likes of 5,000 tickets sold just for today . This is huge. I mean, this is how you reach the Iowa Democratic faithful. These are the people who are going to knock on doors, who are going to be precinct captains, get people to the polls on the cold january night when you really need people fired up and excited. Every president ial candidate makes a pilgrimage here. And for Hillary Clinton to come here so early, its a big deal. Her supporters in the state have been wanting her to come. Theyve been wanting her to spend some face time with iowa voters. So this is, you know, very important for her to come here. So important, in fact, that Bernie Sanders will be in des moines later tonight and joe biden, the number two is coming on wednesday. So tea leaves to be read there. Okay. Well, we enjoy doing that with your help. Thank you so much. Secretary of state john kerrys preparing for what could be a crucial meeting on the war against isis. But one middle east country is being told to stay away. And its one of the greatest political families in american history. And ken burns tells the story of the roosevelts. I know what youre thinking. Youre thinking beneful. [announcer]and why wouldnt he be . Beneful has wholesome grains,real beef,even accents of spinach,carrots and peas. It has carbohydrates for energy and protein for those serious muscles. [guy] aarrrrr [announcer]even accents of vitaminrich veggies. [guy] so happy you love it so much. Yes you do but its good for you,too. [announcer] healthful. Flavorful. Beneful. From purina. Means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing. G, and when weather hits, its data mayhem. But airlines running hp endtoend solutions are always calm during a storm. 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They claimed to do this in the name of islam. That is nonsense. Islam is a religion of peace. British tornadoes and Surveillance Aircraft have been helping with intelligence gathering and logistics. This is not about british combat troops on the ground. Actually, alex, were not expecting to hear more from the Prime Minister today, anyway. He did promise in that statement earlier that Great Britain would take whatever steps necessary to defeat isis, but he made no mention of getting more deeply involved militarily. There are no plans to Call Parliament in recess or any sort of vote against the Islamic State despite pressure from his own party. The Prime Minister lost a vote in syria last year. He also has a serious domestic crisis to deal with right now. Hell tread carefully at least until that vote is over. Mike haines spoke half an hour ago or so about his brother david. Heres part of that. Nor is it the fault of people of middle eastern descent. The attraction of complete control as an implement of population control has an appeal throughout society. What are you hearing about the general response from british citizens and leaders from other countries . Alex, people have used words like incomprehensible, sickening. Inexcusable, barbaric act. In fact, we heard from the president of the Islamic Society of Great Britain who called the isis militants criminals and villains a lot of outrage, alex, of course, the question is, will it translate to public support or pressure for more military action . And so far, theres been very little appetite in this country for that kind of involvement. Well see if it shifts, alex. Okay. Kelly in london, thank you for that. Kelly talking there about public support. Lets talk about diplomatic support because meanwhile, tomorrow the International Leaders will meet in paris to discuss the threat of isis. And president obamas plan for coalition. One major player not invited is iran. And now theyre saying that they never wanted to come anyway. This meeting comes amid speculation that the fight against isis might present an opportunity for the u. S. And iran to Work Together against a common enemy and improve relations. Joining me now to talk about this, she is the former tehran correspondent for the times of london. This question about isis, how much interest is there in iran to get rid of this group . Well, iran feels very threatened and vulnerable by isis by whats happening so close to the borders. In june, iran and the United States did hold brief talks about isis. That doesnt sound as unusual as it appears. We mustnt also forget that iran and the United States held talks in 2001 about the common enemy then, which was the taliban. But clearly the Supreme Leader has pulled back the reins with america at this point. Do you think iran would ever go along with air strikes inside syria . Absolutely not. If if it was any if it was to do with it involved with the United States at the moment. And you can see this power play at the moment happening within the Iranian Regime that more moderates are far more open to speaking to talks with the United States, to speaking to the United States. But the Supreme Leader, like i said, has pulled back the reins. In fact, only last week, he told an audience of clerics that he believes isis was created by the americans. And he said he has evidence of this. This perfectly shows you the power play at the moment that the hard liners are blocking any reform, blocking any moves to establish better relations with the United States. Lets talk now about your book, city of lies. A profile of eight tehranians from all walks of life. How did you meet these individuals and why did you decide to write about them . I wanted to show the complexity of iranian society. I wanted to show that tehran is a really sophisticated city. And its not this monolith thats often viewed in the west as this kind of country thats divided between hard liners on one side and secular iranians on the other. Its a real mixture. And i started interviewing ordinary iranians over the last ten years. I felt the voices had been eclipsed by the Nuclear Crisis and international politics. Its so much more revealing than international politics. Tells you so much more about a country. But heres whats interesting. The title of the book, its called city of lies. Why is hypocrisy and dishonesty, why is that a part of todays tehran . I make it really clear that iranians arent congenital liars. But they lie in order to live the lives they want to live. And lying has become a way of adapting to 30 years, over 30 years of islamic rule, of the regime. Okay. One of the people we meet in your book, its a terrorist who tries to execute a former police chief. Why did you include him . Well, first of all, he has an amazing, dramatic story. And he, as well, represents iran on so many levels. So he does represent dissident movements, the exile going back to iran, trying to rediscover his roots. Trying to understand his identity. All right. We talked about something, and we were teasing this interview. A few chapters in, we meet laila, a beautiful prostitute, a judge, a wealthy playboy. She starts appearing in pornographic films. Im not going to give away the ending, but it doesnt work out well for her. Then we learn about the iranian governments obsession with sex. Describe that. What is the obsession. Yeah, there are many laws about sex. And some of them can be quite specific, how youre allowed to have sex, about homosexual sex, all the punishments over sex. And whats happened in iran is really interesting on a sexual level within society as well as anything that becomes thats oppressed. People become very obsessed with it. And at the moment, i think whats interesting, there seems to be a real sexual awakening among the youth about sex and their sexual lives. And sex in a way is now used as a tool of rebellion. Its used as a form of protest in a way. Well, its an interesting book, we wish you the best of luck with it. Thank you for speaking with us about city of lies. Thanks. Thank you. As president obama grapples with the prospects of defeating isis, equally daunting challenges face one of our greatest president s. Franklin roosevelt is just part of the story of ken burns 14hour look of the roosevelts and how would fdr and t. R. Confront todays turmoil . Tch thu the good news in person, bad news in email. Good news fedex has flat rate shipping. Its called fedex one rate. And its affordable. Sounds great. [ cell phone typing ] [ typing continues ] [ whoosh ] [ cell phones buzz, chirp ] and we have to work the weekend. Great. 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Make it happen. I cant believe were missing the game for this. Were not. Ive got xlte. Vo it doubles our 4g lte bandwidth in cities nationwide, so be that guy with verizon xlte. Now get 1gb of bonus data, and our best pricing ever on the more everything plan. A new documentary showcases one of the most impactful political families in american history. The roosevelts transformed the country from introducing the National Park system and the new deal to reshaping the role of american women. Master documenttarian ken burns highlights the fascinating stories in a sevenpart series that begins tonight on pbs. Heres a little taste of the roosevelts and intimate history. Both were hugely ambitious, impatient with the drab notion that the mere making of money should be enough to satisfy any man or nation. And each took unabashed delight in the great power of his office to do good. Well, the man behind the series, director ken burns joins me now. Always good to talk to you. And you are getting rave reviews for this, my friend. That must feel great. Its been very, very satisfying. Its been a long sevenyear slog. These are three of the most interesting people. And our story is not just a political, military or social one. Its an intimate history of who they were, the flaws they had, as well as the greatness. And the obstacles they had to overcome in order to be those great people. So its the kind of american Downton Abbey with the added virtue of it being true. And it helps if you have meryl streep reading eleanor and ed herman reading fdr. No, theyre all going to be fantastic. It seems like, ken, this was an era where or leaders were able to get so much more accomplished through government. Especially in this period of this unrelenting gridlock. What stood out the most to you while making the series . Well, i think it is exactly that. The sense of leadership. And i think thats the central question of today. You know, not only what is the role of government, what can a citizen expect from his or her government . But also, what is the nature of leadership . How does character form leadership . And how is adversity, you know, instrumental in forming that character . They had advantages that current politicians dont. And that all the president s had the congress on their side and could get things through. But even then, the opposition was tremendous. It sounds like an echo of today. Both t. R. And fdr were accused of being socialists, social security, the hallmark of the new deal barely cleared committee. So that youre dealing with people who were really good at rolling up the sleeves and getting things done and being invested as were the opposition parties in compromise. And when that, you know, when we reached the kind of gridlock today, we sort of lament that we have no heroes, we have no leaders. But, in fact, it seems that the poison in our system is more systemic than it is the lack of heroes. Well, lets face it. What i do for a living, notwithstanding, they also didnt have the 24 7 news cycle where everything they say is parsed through and validated and scrutini scrutinized. That was part of it. I want to talk about eleanor. Her story is fascinating, as well. With the amount of adversity she had to overcome to achieve what she did. Im going to play a clip about her. Heres that. She had learned to face fear and master it long before her husband declared that the only thing americans had to fear was fear itself. Her own character and energy and devotion to principle would make her the most in american history. Where did she get her resilience . And how was she able to make that impact . Well, you know, this is one of the great miracles of the american political story. I mean, she is orphaned as a young girl, her father had been a hopeless alcoholic and mentally ill. Her mother was a great beauty but aloof, who was disappointed in eleanors looks as a little girl. And called her granny, called her own daughter granny. She was sent to live with relatives. She should not have survived, and yet, she did. And she seemed to have been ahead on every issue of the day. Race and womens issues, poverty, immigration, health, children, labor. Shed go down in the mines. She is just a testament to the human spirit and is without a doubt the most consequential first lady. Everyone measures their performance in that role by eleanor roosevelt. And hank stubers from the Washington Post. He wrote he couldnt stand it when the 14 hours of the series was over. He was sad it was over. But he also wrote about eleanor in saying that, what you said, actually, rather, is that even though burns never sets out to bring his projects into a current context or beat his viewers over the head with an editorial message. Still wondering what made these rich people so much nicer than the fat cats. You just described them as they were then. But why are they nicer than the ones we have today . You know, this is the interesting thing. And i think the root of all evil. Money has come in and polluted things. These were people who are well to do, privileged to the manner born. But money wasnt part of the equation. Of course, it gave them the possibility to devote themselves to a Public Service and life. And theodores father was a philanthropist who had what he called a troublesome conscience. Everything has to do with reelection, making money, the election cycles are essentially, you know, huge money fests in which dump trucks of money come. And that changes the equation of the ability to just look a problem in the eye and say, come on, we all want this solved. What are we going to do . Treate corners. We are not interested in making little bitle call hay. My point of view is not important in our films. We want to tell a good story. We know that the past is prologue, not even past. I love your perspective on everything. Drek tor ken burns, thank you for your time. Thank you. All of you can watch the roosevelts tonight at 8 00 7 00 central on pbs. Its a fight against a global tragedy. How you can help save the lives of oh 50 Million People next. Do you have something for pain . I have bayer aspirin. Im not having a heart attack, its my back. I mean bayer back body. It works great for pain. Bayer back body provides effective relief for your tough pain. Better . Yeah. Thanks for the tip crest gaand the other, a crestwhitening toothpaste. Heres what they thought. I cant tell if the paste whitened. Well the whitestrips worked. Yeah. The paste didnt do that. Crest whitestrips work below the enamel surface, to whiten 25x better than a leading whitening toothpaste. Crest whitestrips. The way to whiten. It is a historymaking movement aimed at fighting extreme poverty that has stars like hugh jackman, Carrie Underwood and gwen stefani. It is going to take over central park this month. I will do this show live from the event a week from saturday. Betty nguyen has details on how you could be a part of it, too. Reporter cheering crowd wills fill central parks great lawn for the Global Citizen festival on september 27 featuring jayz, no doubt, Carrie Underwood, fun, the roots, and tiesto. Hugh jackman here. Im excited to host this year the Global Citizen festival. Reporter its all absolutely free. While you cant buy tickets, concert goers, better known as Global Citizens, can earn them by taking action to end extreme poverty by the year 2030. Its not just about clicking a button, going to a concert, smile and thats the end of it. For them it becomes a lifestyle. Im going to take action year in, year out. Reporter hugh evans is the ceo of the global poverty project. The Organization Behind the Global Citizen movement. We believe in the next 15 years if we get the right policy environment, the right interventions we could end extreme poverty forever. Reporter Global Citizens are taking individual actions pressing government to implement poverty preventing efforts for countries in need. Like this woman who weaves baskets trying to send her daughters the to school. One in ten children in the world have no access to education. Global citizens are working to get 29 million kids in school. They are also campaigning for sanitation and clean water in some of the worlds poorest areas. Just as important is the Global Citizen effort to save 6 million lives with immunizations. 1. 5 million children die every year from vaccine preventable diseases. You can help change that. Global citizen is not just an organization. You are the Global Citizen. Heres how it works. Just go to the Global Citizen festival website and join the movement. Once you have earned eight points you are eligible for a chance to win free festival tickets. There are a lot of ways to earn points. The more action you take to prevent poverty the better shot you have at concert tickets. Actions can be anything from taking a social media action, so tweeting. To emailing a congressman, to signing a petition. Easy actions that have great impact for the worlds poor. Reporter the impact doesnt stop when the concert ends. Global citizens leave knowing they are part of a historymaking effort to wipe out extreme poverty within the next 16 years. That was msnbcs betty wynn reporting. Catch it september 27 beginning at 4 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. Thats where the concert which will be fantastic. Well address issues brought up by the Global Citizen festival on msnbc in the broadcast beginning with Melissa Harrisperry whose show will begin at 10 00 eastern. Followed by mine. Tune in for that. Were all excited about it. 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