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His cabinet picks this week with veteran diplomat tony blinken expected to be named secretary of state. With the state department depleted and many of our alliances fractured, the question is, what message is biden sending to the agency and to the world . And millions of americans are traveling for thanksgiving, despite Health Officials urging everyone to stay home. With covid cases already surging, the question is whether were setting ourselves up for a nightmare before christmas . Its way too early for this. Good morning, and welcome to way too early, the show that deserves, along with all of you, seconds and maybe even thirds this thanksgiving. Im kasie hunt on this monday, november 23rd. Well start with the news. The u. S. Surpassed 12 million cases of covid19 on saturday. It followed two Straight Days of recordbreaking highs that drove the United States to a million new cases in the last week. On thursday, the cdc recommended against traveling and gathering for thanksgiving, but the tsa says it processed more than 2 million passengers on friday and saturday, the highest twoday total since midmarch. Heres the headline on the front page of this mornings Washington Post testing negative to travel home, about the safety precautions students are taking to try and protect their families. And when it comes to hospitalizations, dr. Anthony fauci said yesterday that a substantial proportion of those in the hospital are middleaged adults between 40 and 59 years old. That Holiday Travel warning isnt just to prevent another surge, its to help mitigate the one that were already in. The country continues to set singleday records. There were more than 194,000 cases on friday and there are no signs that any of this is slowing down. Lets take a look at these headlines. Cases are up 1,200 in cleveland, while 1 in 49 coloradoans are believed to be contagious with the virus. Daily deaths are also on the rise, adding to the 257,000 americans who have now died. All this increasing the strain on already overburdened hospitals, and there are now fears that not only are hospitals becoming inundated, but that care may need to be rationed because of the overwhelming number of cases. Dozens of hospitals are bracing for even more patients following the thanksgiving holiday. Stay safe out there, folks. Wear a mask. In a scathing opinion, meanwhile lets go to the president now that left no room for ambiguity, a pennsylvania federal judge on saturday dismissed the Trump Campaigns lawsuit to stop certification of the states vote. District judge Matthew Brann all but shut the door on the president s effort to overturn the election in court, dismissing the suit with prejudice, he writes, one might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formedably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption. That has not happened. Instead, this court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of america, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. Brann found that trumps attorneys lacked coherent arguments and their client lacked standing. He also found that voters suing because they were unable to cure a bad ballot were asking for the wrong remedy. Brann writes, rather than requesting that their votes be counted, they seek to discredit scores of others, but only for one race. This is simply not how the constitution works. And though judge brann was an obama nominee, he served as pennsylvanias Regional Republican Party chairman before he was appointed to the bench. According to the wall street journal, trump spent the weekend looking for new approaches to try and reverse the election outcome, despite this latest legal setback. At present, 24 of 36 cases in six states have been denied, dismissed, or withdrawn. And all of this leads us to the Republican Party. President trump is facing growing pressure from republicans to accept the outcome of the election and concede. Senator pat toomey of pennsylvania released a statement saturday night. He says, President Trump has exhausted all plausible Legal Options to challenge the result of the president ial race in pennsylvania. He went on to say that in order to ensure hes remembered for his accomplishments and to help unify our country, President Trump should accept the outcome of the election and facilitate the president ial transition process. Heres what some other members of the president s party had to say yesterday. Whats happened here is, quite frankly, the content of the president s National Legal team has been an embarrassment. Ive been a supporter of the president. I voted for him twice, but elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didnt happen. You have an obligation to present the evidence. The evidence has not been presented. We used to go supervise elections around the world, and we were the most respected, you know, country with respect to elections. And now were beginning to look like were a banana republic. Its time for them to stop the nonsense. It just gets more bizarre every single day. And frankly, im embarrassed that more people in the party arent speaking up. So, Maryland Governor larry hogan, who you heard right there, was later in the day attacked by President Trump on twitter. The president shared a breitbart article about flaws with some of the coronavirus tests that hogan had received from south korea, calling hogan a rino, republican in name only, and said hes just as bad as the flawed tests that he paid big money for. Hogan wrote back, if you had done your job, americas governors wouldnt have been forced to fend for themselves to find tests in the middle of a pandemic, as we successfully did in maryland. And heres the kicker. He writes, stop golfing and concede. Joining us now, senior washington correspondent for politico and coauthor of the playbook, anna palmer. Anna, good morning to you its always great to have you. Thanks for getting up early with us. I think the question weve all been grappling with for the past however many days its been since joe biden was declared president elect and news organizations called the election for him, was when were republicans in Congress Going to look up, look around, and say, okay, were done, we need to support, we need to start i mean, at the very least, calling joe biden the president elect in the hallways . It does seem like there was some significant progress toward that over the weekend. We didnt talk about senator Lisa Murkowski there, but she was one who came out with a statement along these lines as well. At what point do we see Mitch Mcconnell i doubt hes ever going to really do anything publicly, but the pressure has got to be building for him to send that signal privately, its time to say that this is done. Yeah, to your point, i do think weve started to hear from more Senate Republicans in congress, certainly at the governor level and across the country, calling for the president to concede, but we havent heard that from the leadership, certainly not Mitch Mcconnell, not California Republican kevin mccarthy. Its unclear if thats going to happen. I also dont know if that even makes a difference. I dont think you are seeing the president weaken his stance or really consider conceding based on people coming out and saying, all right, its time now for you to move on, right . The country, for the betterment of the country. The president doesnt seem moved by that, so its unclear to me, you know, whether Mitch Mcconnell thinks its even worth him doing it at this point. So, were seeing joe biden, obviously we mentioned that we expect him to name his secretary of state this week, possibly other cabinet officials. I mean, its very clear that they are trying to press ahead with demonstrating to the country, to business leaders, to our allies across the globe and to our enemies, for that matter, that he is going to get his government ready, he is going to be the next president. There is, you know, there is certainly a Public Relations consideration in terms of how theyre handling it all, but the reality is, behind the scenes, they still dont have that president ial daily brief access that would let them really get ready for this, they still dont have the ascertainment from the gsa that will give them access to the agencies, the ability to clear people through. I mean, at what point do republicans and democrats get on board to try and get the machinery of government to move for him . I mean, weve seen more of that pressure from republicans, but so far, it hasnt moved the needle in actual reality. Yeah, absolutely. I think its a real concern. I was talking to sources in the biden camp over the weekend about what theyre trying to do. And to your point, they are trying to do as much as they can to say, we are the steady hand of government, to really calm peoples nerves around the country about whats happening, to do as much as they can. Theyve raised money through Grassroots Efforts to try to fund this transition effort since gsa hasnt had an ascertainment yet. Folks i was talking to said, you know, they are looking at every single option that they could possibly use, and that even includes suing the gsa. You know, thats not going to be a quick remedy. Theyre not going to all of a sudden sue the gsa, then theyre going to get the money and the ascertainments going to come, but i do think they are trying to have a multipronged approach. The congress is out this week because of thanksgiving, but weve started to see democrats in the house ramp up questions to emily murphy at gsa, to say, why arent you certifying this election . I think that that pressure is going to only increase from people ive been talking to, after the thanksgiving break. But youve started to hear more calls from republican lawmakers to say, all right, its time for the certification to happen, for the president elect to get all of the things that he needs to be ready, that there are Actual National Security Issues in terms of, you know, security clearances and vetting to happen for all of bidens cabinet that cant happen, and things could get delayed. So, i expect that that pressure ramps up, but probably post thanksgiving. Well, and we know that House Democrats have definitely been taking their cues from the biden campaign, and they do have a lot of tools at their disposal, just a question of how and when they deploy them. Politicos anna palmer, thank you very much, my friend. Really great to see you on this monday morning. I hope you have a happy thanksgiving. And still ahead here, with infections surging, President Trump skips a g20 event that focused on the coronavirus pandemic to go golfing instead. Plus, joe biden is expected to announce some cabinet picks this week. What Incoming White House chief of staff ron klain is saying about that. Weve got those stories and a check on the weather when we come right back. We come right back. Wow a new buick . For me . To james, from james. Thats just what i wanted. Is this a new buick . I secret santaed myself. I shouldnt have. But i have been very good this year. Wow wow wow this year, turn black friday into buick friday all month long. Now during buick friday, pay no interest for 84 months on most 2020 buick suv models. Sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. Shes confident, protected, her strength respected. Depend. The only thing stronger than us, is you. Good moves. Or hydration. Neutrogena® hydro boost. 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The chiefs defense seals it with an interception on the raiders final possession. Kc wins, 3531. Meanwhile, in landover, maryland, the Washington Football Team comes away with a 209 victory over the bengals after cincinnati quarterback joe burrow is carted off the field in the third quarter. Burrow reportedly suffered a torn acl in his left knee after being sandwiched by two washington defenders during a passing attempt. We dont have an immediate update on burrows condition, but the number one draft pick signaled that his promising rookie season is now over, tweeting yesterday afternoon, thanks for all the love. Cant get rid of me that easy. See you next year. Wishing you a speedy recovery there, sir. Meanwhile, the coronavirus pandemic continues to affect the College Football season, as saturdays game between number four clemson and Florida State was postponed just hours before kickoff. The tigers arrived in florida on friday, when they learned a reserve lineman had tested positive in the teams latest round of testing. Clemson quickly isolated the unidentified player and sent him back to campus. And while clemson administrators offered additional testing to satisfy sfus hesitation and play the game, later saturday or in the coming days, all those suggestions were turned down. And the acc announced that medical personnel from both sides could not agree the game would be safe to play. However, clemson head coach dabo swinney criticized fsus administration for the decision, telling supporters on a Conference Call last night that he believes Florida State called off the game for reasons other than the coronavirus. Swinney said, this game was not canceled because of covid. Covid was just an excuse to cancel the game. He added to me, the Florida State administration forfeited the game, and if they want to play clemson, in my opinion, they need to come to clemson or they need to pay for all the expenses. Other than that, theres no reason for us to play them. Wow. The tigers were nearly fivetouchdown favorites heading into saturdays game against the noles. According to clemsons athletic director, the trip cost the program about 300,000. Meanwhile, for the second week in a row, the top eight teams in the ap College Football poll held their spots with the alabama crimson tide now the first unanimous Number One Team of the season, receiving all 62 firstplace votes after beating kentucky, 633, on saturday. Wow, 633. Northwestern university, meanwhile, moved up eight spots to number 11 for its best ranking in nearly a quarter century after they beat wisconsin, 177, on sunday. The loss drops the badgers eight spots to number 18. Time now for weather. Lets go to meteorologist bill karins for a check on your thanksgiving week forecast. Bill, good morning. Hey, good morning to you, kasie. And yeah, we had a nice, quiet week last week, and this weekend was pretty nice in most areas, but now weve got a couple storms to track as we go into thanksgiving. First one is in the northeast this morning. You see behind me a lot of rain moving through philadelphia, new york city, shortly, rains going to pick up and all through new england. Unfortunately, a little rain for the ski areas in northern new england, too. They had been able to make snow over the last couple days. Todays forecast, rainy first half of the day, especially in new england. Then it will clear out in the afternoon. Theres a new Storm Brewing in the rockies. That will be the next storm were going to watch. So, on tuesday, we see, look at denver, a chance of some snow, 34 degrees. Theres also going to be rain and storms in the middle of the country, from dallas to oklahoma city. Were okay on the east coast on tuesday. Then for the rest of thanksgiving week, wednesday, you know, usually thats the biggest travel day of the year, but not this year. We will still see a lot of rain in the ohio valley, midwest, all the way through the southeast, a little snow in northern new england. Then for thanksgiving day itself, that looks kind of gray and rainy still, unfortunately, for areas of the east coast, especially early in the day, and that rain may linger in southern new england on thursday. Then finally, kasie on friday we see the northeast clearing out, but a new storm in the south. So, for the eastern seaboard, kasie, i think most areas will see a decent afternoon on thanksgiving, but that will not be the case from new york to boston, southern new england kind of looks rainy most of the day. My apologies in advance. All right, well keep an eye on it. Bill karins, thank you so much, as always. Well see you tomorrow. And still ahead here, were going to take a look at whats going on inside the white house amid President Trumps continued refusal to concede. Plus, new reporting about what may be next for trump after he leaves office. Were back in just a moment. He leaves office wee rback in just a moment. F, lexus has been celebrating driveway moments. Heres to one more, the lexus december to remember sales event. Lease the 2021 is 300 for 339 a month for 36 months and well make your first months payment. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Did you try it yet . Comparing plans . Oh yeah. They sure can change year to year. I found lower premiums and lower prescription costs. And those new insulin savings hundreds of plans, 35 a month. Thatll save you money. So uh, mark . On medicare. Gov now. Open enrollment ends dec 7th. Comparing plans. Really pays. Paid for by the u. S. Department of health human services. Welcome back. As World Leaders gathered at the g20 summit, focusing on the coronavirus pandemic, President Trump went golfing instead. On saturday, leaders from germany, south korea, france, and argentina were reportedly scheduled to participate in the event, but during a meeting on the pandemic, President Trump had rolled up to a golf course. The g20 summit was reportedly on the president s schedule starting from 8 00 in the morning with no end time listed. Despite the u. S. Leading the world in cases and deaths, no american was scheduled to speak during the Global Summits saturday session on covid19. Were also learning new details inside the trump administrations crumbling, as the president refuses to concede. A person close to trump tells nbc news, he knows he lost, but he wants to make it at least as difficult for democrats as he believes they made his transition into office. As a reminder, Hillary Clinton conceded the race the day after the 2016 results and then president obama hosted trump in the oval office two days after the election. Aside from policyfocused conversations, senior aides are said to be, quote, largely avoiding the oval office so that they dont have to be part of the election fight. Meanwhile, the Washington Post reports that in private conversations, trump is plotting another president ial run in 2024. He also has been reportedly exploring ways to make money for relatively little work, such as giving paid speeches to corporate groups or selling tickets to rallies. The post reports that he may also write a scoresettling memoir about his time in office. Okay. Still ahead here, nbc news correspondent carol lee joins us with new reporting about who joe biden may be eyeing as his pick for secretary of state. But before we go to break, we, as always, want to know, why are you awake . 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Youre going to see the first of the president elects cabinet appointments on tuesday of this week, meeting the pace beating, in fact, the pace that was set by the obama biden transition, beating the pace set by the trump transition. Last week, biden said that hes decided who he wants to nominate for treasury secretary and will make the announcement around thanksgiving. Bidens move to announce cabinet picks and move forward with the president ial transition process comes as President Trump still refuses to concede, even after his campaigns legal challenges were struck down in pennsylvania. President trump and his legal team are increasingly resorting to Desperate Measures to try and change the election outcome, including urging state legislatures and judges to, quote unquote, flip the results in his favor. In a series of tweets that were flagged by twitter, the president wrote on saturday, why is joe biden so quickly forming a cabinet when my investigators have found hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes . This goes on at some length. Were not going to read it because none of it is true. Joe biden is undertaking a transition because he is going to be the next president. And a Senior Adviser to the Trump Campaign continues this. The president s daughterinlaw, lara trump said its still a quote unquote possibility that legislatures could override the vote in favor of trump. Watch this, but remember, it isnt. Will there be an effort to sway legislatures, state legislatures, in places like michigan or georgia or arizona to change their electorates from probiden to proPresident Trump electors . Well, i think that the general effort is to make sure that this election was free and fair and that every legitimate vote gets counted. To what extent, im curious, do you think the campaign will go . Will it go to those state legislatures . Well, thats a possibility. Look, weve obviously been putting forward lawsuits across the country in states where we feel like there were really egregious violations of peoples rights and the way this election process played out, and were open to anything. Joining us now, nbc news correspondent carol lee. Carol, good morning. Its great to see you. Good morning. Thanks for being up so early with us. I actually want to set aside all of this nonsense thats coming from the trump team because we know that what theyre saying in the press, in public, is not the same as what theyre telling judges, and those lawsuits are getting thrown out left and right. So, lets focus on the real news this week, which is learning that what the contours of our next administration are going to look like. And i know you have some reporting on tony blinken, who has been a longtime biden Foreign Policy adviser, as his secretary of state. What more can you tell us, both about blinken himself and also about the biden campaigns strategy in rolling out their cabinet choices pretty early in this process . Well, look, theyre trying to, as you heard in the clip that you played by ron klain, they want to show momentum, which is why you heard ron klain saying, you know, theyre ahead of the obama biden transition, they are ahead of the trump transition because they want to show that they are moving forward. So, thats part of whats happening here. And so, the president elect is supposed to announce this week that hes selected tony blinken as his secretary of state. And as you know, kasie, tony blinken is somebody who has worked for joe biden when he was on the Senate Foreign relations committee, he was bidens National Security adviser at the start of the obama administration, hes a known diplomat, he was a deputy secretary of state during the last couple of years of the obama administration, so hes experienced. Hes a loyalist, which tells you a lot about what joe biden might be looking for, specifically in Foreign Policy, and he knows joe bidens Foreign Policy inside and out, where he would stand on any given issue. And there are a number of big crises that are facing the incoming administration. So, theres that. And also, ive got to say, the one question that was coming up when you look at who joe biden was going to pick for his cabinet was how many fights he was going to pick. And here he chose not to pick a fight. He went with tony blinken. Susan rice was another candidate who was up for the secretary of state job. She was being considered. Chose not to go with her. She, obviously, would be somebody who would be very controversial and could set off a big sort of battle within the senate. Yeah, its really hard to see susan rice getting confirmed by the senate, if mcconnell is, in fact, going to remain in charge, which of course we dont know yet. But its a good point. And i think people shouldnt forget how important his time as chairman of Senate Foreign relations is and was to joe biden. So, picking tony blinken lines up with that. Carol, lets also talk for a second about whats going on behind the scenes with the president in terms of his next move. Yeah. Both the times and the post have lengthy stories out over the weekend talking about, you know, all of these ideas hes throwing out about what hes going to do next. He clearly is going to likely paralyze the Republican Party heading into 2024. What do we know about where his head is, what the next four years are going to look like from Donald Trumps Vantage Point . Well, kasie, you mentioned one of the things that i find most interesting about what President Trump is doing, and thats this signaling, and in fact, there are many people who think that he is actually going to announce that he is running. Whether or not he will in 2024 is a separate question. But even if he announces it, he freezes the field for a number of republicans who have been loyal to him, who have been biding their time and holding out in hopes of mounting a campaign in 2024, and within his own administration the Vice President , mike pence, secretary of state mike pompeo, former u. N. Ambassador nikki haley, and then some of those who have come out and really been defending the president as he digs in on trying to overturn these results of the election. You think about ted cruz, for instance. And so, in doing that, in allowing the president to have this time to extend the amount of time that he doesnt concede and to sow all this doubt about the election, they are actually emboldening him to potentially run in 2024 and freeze the field when they have been all thinking about running in 2024 themselves. So, thats one avenue. Then the other is just making money. And as one adviser said to me, kasie, its about staying the center of attention, above all else. Isnt it always about that . And there is something there is quite something to this idea that all of these republicans who have, as you point out, been waiting in the wings, a lot of them privately really not, you know, cant get rid of trump fast enough, are going to have to put their own ambitions on hold or at least deal with him for quite some time. Nbcs carol lee, thank you for your great reporting. We appreciate you being here. 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And save at trelegy. Com. Welcome back. Time now to gather around the water cooler for things that will have people talking today. A florida man is being praised as a hero for jumping into the water and wrestling an alligator to save his puppy. I dont know if you saw this on social media over the weekend. It is just the best. Richard wilbanks of estero, florida, was sitting outside, enjoying the sun, when he heard his new puppy cry out and saw a small alligator dragging the puppy into the water. Lets look at this. So, without thinking, wilbanks jumps into the water, wrestles the gator to free gunner, is the name of the puppy. Thats his 3yearold cavalier will charles. Wilbanks said it happened so fast, instinct took over. Look, gunner gets away from the alligator, runs off. Wilbanks participates in a program that puts cameras on private land to document wildlife, and this incident happened in late october, but the footage wasnt discovered until the cameras memory card was collected. Gunner is recovering from a puncture wound and wilbanks has a few cuts on his hand, but theyre all going to be okay. And its worth pointing out, he didnt even drop his cigar that entire time. Glad everyone came out okay. Here is a story about going with the flow. Ufc fighter mike perry was walking into his saturday bout when an unexpected song started blaring from the loudspeakers. It was not his first choice of pumpup music. We can hear a little bit of this. Turning to his corner as he walked out, he asked them, quote, is this blanking halo . And it was, indeed, halo by beyonce. Its a slow, dreamy jam. Perry took it all in stride and started singing along, because i mean, really, how could you not . Guaranteed rate, you could save massive amounts on your morning from guaranteed rate, now visit rate. Com. Hes singing he is such a character mike perry is the man. Pretty good sense of humor. Perry did end up losing the fight in a unanimous decision against tim means. Now out to another type of jam. Inandout, the california fastfood brand opened its first ever locations in colorado this weekend, and it caused quite a frenzy. Traffic in aurora and Colorado Springs was incredibly intense as coloradoans flocked to get their first tastes of these inandout burgers in their state. In Colorado Springs, a timelapse video posted to twitter shows a small section of the drivethru line with the first car in line reportedly waiting since tuesday. In aurora, traffic was just as bad, if not worse. There were some local reports that these lines were lasting over 12 hours. I mean, inandouts good, but really, guys . Like, it will still be there next week. Anyway, still ahead here, it seems like the state of georgia has been called multiple times already, but now President Trump is requesting another recount of the States Election results. Well have the latest from there when way too early comes right back. 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Campaigns can request an additional machine recount if a vote margin is within half a percentage point. The final certified results had biden ahead by a margin of 0. 26 , roughly 12,000 votes. Unlike in other states, the hefty recount bill is footed by the georgia taxpayers. Joining us now, political reporter for the atlanta journalconstitution, greg lunestein. As has been said about you on morning joe, there is no one i would rather talk to about what is happening in georgia, which is going to be the center of our political universe this year, but probably also many years into the future, so thank you for getting up early with us. Yeah. This recount request, what Trumps Campaign is doing here, its taking place against the backdrop also of two senate races that are going to decide who controls the chamber. My question for you is, what do republicans who are focused on those races Mitch Mcconnell and others, who know thats the future how does that play into what donald trump is continuing to do, trying to continue to call the president ial race results into question over and over again and demanding that taxpayers pay up for it . Yeah, well, theyre worried this is a distraction. Theyre worried that all the false claims of fraudulent voting and irregularities will end up depriving republicans of one of their best arguments, which is that senate control, Republican Senate control, is a check on joe biden, because they cant acknowledge that its a check on joe biden yet because they havent acknowledged joe bidens victory yet. And secondly, theyre worried that it could depress turnout, that it could be the equivalent of a wet blanket on republican turnout at a time when they need every single vote they can, because georgia is newly competitive. So, greg, the conventional wisdom in these kinds of runoffs has always has typically been, anyway and this isnt just in georgia, but across the country, in fact that when you have a special election, you know, its frequent voters who are more likely to show up. That oftentimes is the republican base. And i dont mean the trump base. I mean the traditional republican base, people who vote in primaries with regularity. There is always an assumption that democrats show up more regularly only in president ial years, so that would seem to advantage the gop in these two contests. But it all seems very uncertain and up in the air, and im wondering what your assumptions are going into these runoffs about how theyre going to play out . Do you think perdue play out . Do you think perdue and loeffler go in with an advantage other warnock and ossoff or do you think that we should be making a difference out of assumptions in these races . Look, i think that republicans have a historical advantage in this state like georgia. They have won every statewide runoff in history but this is an election like no other. All assumptions have to be thrown out because democrats showed they have a path to the statewide victory and democrats hadnt won the state of georgia in the president ial race since 92. And not a statewide election since 2000. So they have showed they have a pathway to success and yes, the electorate tend to be older and whiter which tends to help republicans. But you never had an election with such high stakes or with an africanamerican candidate warnock at the top of the candidate who democrats hope energize the black voters who dont typically turn out in these elections like the general elections. Kelly loeffler tested positive for covid over the weekend. Greg bluestein, we hope youll come back at some point soon. It was great. Earlier on in the show we asked why are you awake . 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So, nick, hes essentially saying, okay, our country is reallily divided, not our fault. We should remind people the kochs have put so much money into our political system particularly for republicans and we have heard koch express some regret about that. What else did you learn in this interview . Yeah, the koch brothers, they have been the biggest funders of partisan politics and millions of dollars into the conservative causes and this is the First Television interview in four years and he back tracked on a lot of that, saying that wasnt the best idea and he said that partisan politics existed before he got involved. He is starting to feel a little bit of regret they have put that much money into it and they blame it for the failures to accomplish a lot of things they wanted to do. He talked to mike about eliminating barriers to entrepreneurship, to business. And he said the partisan atmosphere was really what stood in the way of all those kinds of accomplishments. It was saying not sort of taking credit or responsibility for the creation of partisan politics. He does lament the fact that it exists and doesnt feel like the many millions of dollars they spent certainly helps that cause. Almost a little bit of an apology tour he has been taking on television and out of the book hes published about the role they have played in the spending and the partisan politics. So nick, this seems to me to be part very significant and an important part but part of a developing narrative about the Business Community getting nervous a little bit about the populist, maybe nationalist, im not 100 sure how to describe it yet, but the way that President Trump gins up his base is in some ways very unsettling if you are a company trying to do business in the long term, trying to avoid volatility. We know that stability is important to the Business Community. You have seen some signs over at the chamber of commerce that they have come out and said we want President Trump to concede. How much of that is part of what were hearing here from charles koch . Yeah, the Business Community was not 100 behind President Trump and i think that chamber of commerce thing was a huge thing, they started to back the Democratic People running and that hasnt happened in a long time. There are people speaking out about President Trump, now post election, saying it was time to move on. Remember, they were a big believer in immigration and free trade and they supported the policies which President Trump did not support at all, so it was an interesting split, in the business interests and President Trump and i think were seeing that in the way that charles koch talks about how this movement they helped to fund evolved and were hearing from the Business Community saying it was time to move on from President Trump to move on. Hans nichols spoke to a huge backer of President Trump and said that President Biden has won, time for everybody to get over the election. Yeah. I was going to ask you about that. Because schwartzman told hans that while he was a fan of the process, that the president wanted to go through, that he was trying to a voice of reason but then he says quote, the outcome is very certain today and the country should move on. I mean, we have focused a lot on elected republicans who dont necessarily seem to be able to move President Trump one way or the other even if they were to call for him to leave, but this is something else. These are people who can write big checks and we know the president cares about what his bottom line is going on the in the future. Whats your take . We are seeing a lot of that right now, that the sands are starting to shift, a lot of people are saying its over. Jamie dimon, big Business People are saying that murkowski and toomey and others said its a all over. 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