Transition, despite the Trump Administrations road blockbloc. No recognition of the transition, and so far no cooperation between the biden team and the trump people. The three questions, how long will republicans allow the president to keep this up . How vulnerable is the u. S. Right now . And how does this look to the rest of the world . Its definitely way too early for this. Good morning. And welcome to way too early, the show that can definitely feel Ken Dilanians pain. Im kasie hunt, on this wednesday, november 11th, veterans day. Well start with the news, well start with President Trumps continued refusal to concede the election. And some coming out that joe biden may not have won after all. He did, spoiler. Until the Electoral College votes, anyone who is running for office can exhaust concerns about counting in any court of appropriate jurisdiction. At some point here, well find out, finally, who was certified in each of these states. The president wasnt defeated by huge numbers. In fact, he may not have been defeated at all. Senator, have you congratulated Vice President joe biden yet . No. Why not . Senator did Vice President joe biden win the election . We dont know yet. We dont . Its not been certified. We need to finish all the votes. All the votes need to be counted we need to have all the votes counted. I look forward to that being finished. Just for the record, not typically the standard by which this would be measured, but here we are. A handful of other republican senators have said the contested nature of the election shouldnt stop the transition from moving forward. The acting Senate Intelligence chairman marco rubio said, quote, we need to have that contingency in place. I dont think allowing the General Services administration to move forward on some of the transition work prejudices in any way the legal claims the president intends to make. And republican senator mitt romney told nbc news yesterday its very much in our National Interest in our Foreign Policy interest and National Security interest, to make sure that if theres a new team that they become the leadership team, that they be given all access as quickly as possible. And senator mike rounds of south dakota told reporters, with regard to the transition itself, i think they should be able to work out any issue between them to allow certain parts of it to move forward. Well see if this makes a difference. President elect joe biden meanwhile said the Trump Administrations stone wall will go not stop his transition. The ability for the administration in any way by failure to recognize our win does not change the dynamic at all, what were able to do. We can get through without the funding. What do you say to the americans that are interested in the fact that President Trump has yet to concede and what that might mean for the country . Well, i just think its an embarrassment, quite frankly. The only thing that how can i say this tactfully i think it will not help the president s legacy. Were going to have a president who muses out loud about how to Say Something tactfully. What a change. As for republican lawmakers who refuse to acknowledge his victory. Biden says he believes theyve been mildly intimidated. Mildly sbintimidated by the president. Meanwhile a Senior Trump Administration official tells nbcs Peter Alexander that the president s legal challenges are, quote, unsustainable, emphasizing theres no path to victory for trump. And adding, quote, its not wrong for bidens team to call it theater. Joining us now nbc news correspondent mike memoli who has been, of course, covering joe biden, since the very beginning, not just of this campaign, but of his journey to the white house with former president obama. Mike, good morning to you. Thank you for getting up early with us. Reporter good morning, kasie. Lets talk about this transition. Clearly, former Vice President joe biden is trying to telegraph calm. Hes taken the same demeanor as he has throughout as this steady leader thats going to return us to normalcy. We know, for example from the 9 11 Commission Report that there have been concerns that hindering a transition has serious National Security implications. Are there conversations going on between the biden team and some of those senators who came out saying, hey, we should be able to do this . Or how do you see the next week unfolding on this score . Kasie, i feel like this is the story of the trump era, right . Theres something as procedural and bureaucratic as an ascertainment letter thats a flash point. On monday, you saw the biden team sending up a flare, saying theyre going so far as of defending legal action if they didnt get this designation under all past traditions under which this law governs come within 24 hours. But yesterday, all of the signals from the biden team, including from the president elect himself was to try to deescalate this. You saw bidens Team Announce hundreds of names of Agency Review teams. Those are the folks who would go in to meet with the current career officials to try to take stock of what needs to be done to ensure an effective handoff of power on january 20th. Biden himself downplaying this completely, saying it really wasnt consequential, even by not having access to the Daily Briefing which National Security says is critical to learn about what might be Ongoing Operations that hes going to inherit in less than 70 days. Dont be mistaken, kasie, there is concern behind the scenes with this. I think kofrgconversations are ongoing with folks on capitol hill. Quiet efforts to reach out to some of those career officials to try to understand what they can within the realm of the law. And i think its also worth noting, kasie, if the General Services administration isnt recognizing president elect biden yet, the Prime Minister of canada is, the Prime Minister of United Kingdom is. The chancellor of germany is. So, as biden is having these initial conversations with world leaders, theyre sending the very clear signal that this election is over. That hes the duly elected president. And i think ultimately to the extent that there is confidence on the biden team that this will be resolved sooner than later, its that. This is a little bit of sound and fury over nothing but nothing that they can take for it, kasie. Were going to talk about mike pompeo from yesterday. Because, wow, from my point, Mitch Mcconnell and joe biden havent talked. At least they will at some point down the line. Joe biden has got to be wanting to call everyone in the u. S. Congress hes ever met or had a meal with. What kind of contacts are going on behind the scenes in that regard, as he kind of prepares to take on this new role . Reporter well, kasie, both sides are being very careful on this, right . You know that Mitch Mcconnell is focused on those special Runoff Elections in georgia next month. And so is joe biden. Thats why you saw them put such a focus on health care yesterday. They believe that can be a powerful issue to galvanize the democratic channels. Theres background conversations but nobody is willing to talk. Nbcs mike memoli, thank you very much for being here with us. Were going to get a lot more of your reporting coming up on morning joe. Meanwhile, the trump campaigns legal pursuits progressed as they dug in their heels refusing to concede the election. In the certification of the States Election results making the same allegations of fraud without citing evidence. This followed news earlier in the day that a request of congressman doug collins heading up an effort in georgia to have the vote recount down by hand in that state before the vote is certify collinss letter of request to secretary of state alleges hundreds of voter discrepancies including absentee ballots counted without verification. But again, this evidence that they provided quote unquote doesnt provide any specifics. And nbc has learned that since attorney general william barr authorized it, the association is looking into voter ballots in pennsylvania. Its important to underscore here, in all of these places, the biden lead is so significant, even if there were to be some of these things. And again, weve said over and over, the president has the right to do this. If it shows something, certainly, he has the right to have that rectified. The fundamental reality is still that we have no evidence as something so massive that the Election Results can be overturned. That is the bottom line here. Still ahead on way too early, despite the latest challenges, the Supreme Court appears ready to uphold the Affordable Care act. Well bring you that legal fight. Plus, secretary of state mike pompeo, as you saw, facing criticism of whether President Trump may have a second term. Those stories and a lot more when we come right back. Back. Here . Nah. Introducing the all new chevy trailblazer. Here . Nope. Here. When the middle of nowhere, is somewhere. The all new chevy trailblazer. Making lifes journey, just better. The all new chevy trailblazer. When panhe doesnt justs mmake a pizza. He uses fresh, clean ingredients to make a masterpiece. Taste our delicious new flatbread pizzas today. Panera. Unlike ordinary memory want supplementster . Neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. Memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. Try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. With the ninja foodito intelligesmart xl grill. Ing just pick your protein, select your doneness, and let the grill monitor your food. It also turns into an air fryer. Bring outdoor grilling flavors indoors with the grill that grills for you. Welcome back. Time now for sports. College football teams continue to grapple with the coronavirus pandemic, as three Southeastern Conference games scheduled for this weekend are now postponed. Saturdays showdown between topranked alabama and lsu has been called off. Wow, thats a big one. They might not be able to play it at all, as the defending champion tigers contend with a covid19 outbreak that has multiple players including several staffers in quarantine. Yikes, were thinking about them. Fifthranked texas matchup against tennessee has been posted after the aggies say they have three active covid19 cases including two people who traveled to South Carolina last week. On monday, auburns game with Mississippi State was postponed because of positive tests and Contact Tracing inside the bulldogs program. Meanwhile, the american athletic conference, navys game at memphis on saturday has been postponed because of positive tests at the naval academy. Its the second week in a row that navys game has been postponed. Meanwhile, over in the nfl, four Pittsburgh Steelers players have been added to the reserve covid19 list including starting quarterback Ben Roethlisberger after they were deemed highrisk close contact with tight end Vance Mcdonald who tested positive for the virus on monday. Roethlisberger, linebacker, vince williams, running back jaylen samuels. And hawkins are on fiveday quarantines and should be able to play in the game against the bengals unless they return positive tests. A total of 56 league employees including 15 players and 41 Staff Members returned confirmed positive coronavirus tests between november 1 and november 7. And that prompted nfl owners yesterday to unanimously approve a plan expanding the postseason, from 14 to 16 teams. If a covid19 Outbreak Forces the regular season to be shortened. Commissioner Roger Goodell confirmed the consensus on the plan which would include eight teams in each conference, making the playoffs in the event that not all 32 teams can play all 16 games. And finally, this ones pretty great. As pga players ready for this weekends Masters Tournament in augusta, georgia, golfer jon rahm showed off during yesterdays practice round skipping his ball on ball on purpose across the pond and on to the green at hole 16. The ball on the 16th hole. The ball tracks around the edge of the green, funnels towards the flagstick. And rolls into the cup. It was a hole in one, if you can believe that. I still cant believe that. It was his second hole in one this weekend. Did it first time monday at the par 3 4th hole. And it was also, by the way, his 26th birthday. So, hopefully, the magic wasnt just for practice. And hell actually get to show it off to us a little bit. A tradition unlike any other. Im very excited for the masters this week. Time for weather, lets go to meteorologist bill karins for the forecast. Bill, what do you got this morning . Kasie, in perfect 2020 fashion, yesterday i said it looked like eta wasnt going to be much of an issue, the storm has reformed, closer to florida. And now we have a hurricane watch for florida. Yeah, just sums up the whole 2020 Hurricane Season in a nutshell. Lets get into the details and show you what florida is going to look like and experience over the next 24 to 48 hours. Its not a category 3 storm or anything like that. But it could possible be a category 1 making landfall in the next 24 to 48 hours. We have hurricane watches in the pink areas from tampa, tampa bay and were under storm warnings. Heres the latest from the hurricane center. You can see it clearly spinning there just off the florida west coast right now. Its occasionally had an eyelike feature. The hurricane craft is going to investigate it to see if its a hurricane already. Already, the torrential bands in the ft. Myers naples area. And going to pour all day into tampa. They estimate peak winds at 70 miles per hour. Heres how its going to play out. This is the forecast from the hurricane center. They do think it will become a hurricane later this afternoon and weaken slightly before landfall. Sometime before early thursday morning. And then it will head northward after that. And weaken rapidly by the time it makes it to jacksonville, florida. Anytime you involve the west coast of florida, its very susceptible to surging. We could see water rising two to four feet in the tampa bay area. And that will be the story. That will occur late tonight, early tomorrow morning. Rainfall could be problematic with any storm like this. It looks like the heaviest rain, we could get totals up to three inches possible and bands. That area of bright red could be five inches of rain or more from tampa to sarasota. Kasie with that, we have a heat wave, the record highs, will be ending today as the rain moves in. Can you believe it, we could possibly have a hurricane making landfall tomorrow in florida. I mean, this Hurricane Season has been unreal. Absolutely unreal. Its the middle of november. This year, i think i think were all pretty over it. Bill karins, thank you very much, my friend. Really appreciate it. Well see you tomorrow. Still ahead here, the latest on the rising number of coronavirus cases in the united states, as governors across the country impose new restrictive measures. Were back in just a moment. New neutrogena® rapid tone repair 20 percent pure vitamin c. A serum so powerful dark spots dont stand a chance. See what i mean . Neutrogena® when panhe doesnt justs mmake a pizza. 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According to the covid tracking project, the number of hospitalizations topped 60,000 yesterday. For the first time. Meanwhile, governors across the nation are making increasingly desperate pleas to the public to take the fight against the virus more seriously. In wisconsin, Governor Tony Evers issued an executive order urging stayathome orders. In minnesota, governor tom walz ordered bars and restaurants to close by 10 00 p. M. And in iowa, kim reynolds will require masks in gathers of indoor of 25 or more people. Yikes. Two Supreme Court justices, conservative Supreme Court justic justices indicated yesterday theyre likely to vote to youp ho uphold the Affordable Care act. Interesting. At issue is where the aca as a whole should be allowed to stand as congress repealed the tax levied on payment. And chief Justice Brett kavanaugh implied that the penalty could be tossed while keeping the rest of the act intact. I think its hard for me to argue that congress intended the entire act to fall if the mandate were struck down when the same congress that lowered the penalty to zero did not even try to repeal the rest of the act. I think, frankly, that they wants the court to do that. But thats not our job. Looking at server ability precedents, it does seem fairly clear that the proper remedy would be to server the mandate and leave the rest of the act in place, regarding the preexisting conditions and the rest. Congress does know how to write on inservver ability clause. With the three liberal members it appears theres five votes to uphold most of the law. I guess we will see. Still ahead here, much more on President Trumps refusal to concede the election including his administrations new plan to proposal a budget for the next fiscal year. Even though trump is no longer going to be president at that time. But before we go to break, we want to know, why are you awake . 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Its 5 30 here on the east coast. 2 30 out west. Im kasie hunt. The Trump White House continues to drag its feet on transitioning to a new administration. The budget was instructed to continue to prepare the Trump Administrations proposal. The plan typically issued in february which would be at least two weeks after trump is expected to move out of the residence. The move has stunned several career staffers given joe bidens widening victory and the fact that hell submit his own budget plan to congress, early next year. Meanwhile, the Washington Post reports several allies inside the Trump Administration have conceded trump will not win reelection despite his legal challenges. Now, theyre trying to give the president time to come to grips with his loss. Knowing hes likely to ever officially acknowledge the Election Results. He hasnt in the past, remember, when he said that ted cruz didnt actually win iowa. Yeah. Meanwhile, republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania says that the Trump Administration should start cooperating with bidens president ial transition team. Were on a path, it looks likely that joe biden is going to be the next president of the united states. Its not 100 certain. But it is quite likely. So, i think a transition ought to begin. Toomey also said the transition would be moot in the, quote, unlikely scenario that trump does ultimately win the election. Adding, quote, but i think thats not the likely outcome. Joining us now snar pretenior p analyst for the washington examer. David, were watching the Republican Party yet again have to grapple with the fear they have of Donald Trumps supporters in a way that i mean, its part of me was expecting this, based on reporting that i had done before the election. But i think the degree to which, the lent to which we are going here are pretty astonishing. You can im interested to know what your reporting is telling you. What kind of conversations youre having about how theyre going to get themselves out of this. Because right now, theyre, you know, entertaining a president s ego, when they all know that joe biden is going to be president elect, and lets be realistic. Right. Look, i think the way to get out of this the votes are certified, the lawsuits dont go anywhere. And president elect biden is inaugurated. Its very interesting, kasie, because i dont think we would have assumed that with a Biden Victory republicans would have necessarily had this sort of dilemma, regardless of how President Trump decided to handle it. Because when you lose an election, usually, the party whose president lost is able to turn the page. Especially if they really want to turn the page. And they can look at the departing president as, look, whatever hold you had on us, whatever weve had to do to keep you satisfied because youve been the leader of the party and the leader of the country, we are no longer obligated to do that. Were not under political pressure to do that. Because you wont. A couple things well, yeah, because you lost. I think that things happened that maybe even republicans werent expecting. First of all, the president and the party generally had a strong votegetting night, right . First of all, republicans are going to gain maybe ten house seats. Thats because of the turnout that the president generated. They held the Senate Majority, in turn because of the turnout that the president generated. Even though joe biden is the biggest vote getter in american history, the president is the second biggest vote getter in american history. Because the president has influence over the grassroots. And theyre inclined to believe him that not everything is on the up and up. But my point is, we now have republicans in washington looking over their shoulder, refusing if they refer to president elect biden as the president elect if they refer to president elect biden as the president elect, and acknowledge that he won the election. In fact, his vote tally across the state across the states that matter is bigger than President Trumps in 2016. If they do that, what if the base doesnt show up in georgia for the Runoff Election that will determine the balance of power in the senate. What if with the president s encouragement, they decide to punish republicans heading into 2020 midterms when they have a chance to have the House Majority and Senate Majority could still be in play. Yeah. I mean, theyre still so afraid of the tweets. Its remarkable to me. David, very quickly, i do want to ask you about 2424. Because there are earlier reports that the president is already thinking about a white house bid. Oh, yeah. If youre tom cotton or nikki haley or any one of these republicans that wants to run in 2024, doesnt he totally freeze the field . How can they say i should be the next president if theyve got him hanging out there if theyre going to be afraid of him . I dont want to cast judgment too soon. These are people waiting patiently, or not so patiently for a president ial bid. Even when the president was in the middle of his first term. I think theyre going to continue to go ahead. I think theres a good chance that the president dangles this out there and doesnt actually do it. I think depending on how the final tally shakes out. Its possible that a few will decide. Theyre not going to wait another four years, eight years for their turn. I wouldnt get too hasty with that. Clearly, the president has talked for months about running again privately to advisers. Its something they might do. And it will impact the field in such fashion. Its such a nightmare for these people waiting in the wings to have to be dealing with that. I will say that, the washington examiners david drucker. Thank you, my friend. Appreciate your insights. Still ahead here, while the holidays might look different this year during the pandemic, the Rockefeller Christmas tree is still going to stand tall. Yea those details coming up next in the cooler. Way too early back in just a moment. You love your pet. But hate wearing their hair. Did you know that your clothes can actually attract pet hair . With new bounce pet hair lint guard, your clothes can repel pet hair. One bounce mega sheet has 3x the hair fighting ingredients of the leading dryer sheet. Simply toss into the dryer to bounce out hair lint. Look how the shirt on the left attracts pet hair like a magnet pet hair is no match for bounce. Its available in fresh scent unscented. 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Doesnt President Trumps refusal to concede discredit those efforts . Thats ridiculous. You know its ridiculous. And you asked it because its ridiculous. President trump later weighed in on twitter, writing, quote, thats why mike was number one in his class at west point. Oh, boy. Joining us now, the New York Times reporter matt oposo. Matt, thank you for being here. I dont know what to say about mike pompeo, except, i cant imagine that people around the world are looking at americas top diplomat and feeling reassured, shall i say, about the state of things here . So, i will say that europe for right now, and sort of global allies right now, seem to be taking a very this is going to work out, everythings going to fine. This is normal. Everything is normal kind of approach. Europeans leaders talked to president elect biden. They put out normal statements, even Boris Johnson considered to be a the closest trump ally, put out a statement saying were looking forward to working together. Nobody is really freaking out, the vice chancellor of germany actually put out a statement saying look forward to working with president elect biden, and President Trump you should probably concede because thats what happens after elections. Right now, everybodys cool, everythings fine. Democracy is going to work. I think thats what joe biden is attempting to say, thats certainly what we heard from him, when he talked about the lack of concession being an embarrassment. I guess the question is, also, is there concern about so far, the inability to actually execute on this transition . I mean, im hearing some republicans on the hill start to say, notably marco rubio who is the acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee saying, hey, yes, this is the kind of thing we do need to actually start moving forward with. Of course, some of those leaders in countries you mentioned, particularly the United Kingdom. I mean, we have an incredibly close intelligence collaboration with the uk. Is there any concern that those functions may be impacted, if the president doesnt acknowledge his loss sooner rather than later . I dont think were there yet. I think those are abstract concerns. I think what youre hearing, when you talk to people here in europe. And you talk to folks who work in the intelligence world, they say its difficult to overstate the importance of a stable democracy that works in the united states. Its not just like, you know, the united states, theyre having difficulty in their election. Its like, europe has worked with republicans, theyve worked with democrats, they stood beside ronald reagan, standing up to communism, you know, together they defeated the nazis, but its all based on this idea that democracy works and we move from one administration to the next and it just works. Youre really seeing our allies grab on to that idea right now. Yeah. I mean i think its pretty all of us have been some like frogs in boiling water through the Trump Administration when you step back and think about fret a global perspective the idea that we would be fundamentally questioning americas role as the leading democracy in the world is as stunning as that sentence just was. T the New York Times thank you very much. Earlier on in the show here we asked why are you awake . From michelle, up way too early getting ready for work helping to serve our annual free veterans day breakfast. This year is a little different. It will be a drivethrough but typically one of the highlights of my year. Thank you to our veterans and michelle her honoring of them. Jeff, emailed this photo writing, ella, the newest member of our family wanted some attention and to watch you. She is so cute. Michelle says shes a special education elementary schoolteacher and up too early to plan a fun science experiment for the day. That sounds fun. B. L. , up with her new granddaughter who was born on november 9th. She says, her first name is kamala. Shes named after the Vice President elect. Congratulations to your family on your beautiful few addition. Coming up next here, were going to take a look at the axios one big thing and on morning joe, the Biden Transition Team moves forward with the transition of power as the president and his allies continue to contest the Election Results. As the nation honors its Service Members on this veterans day one of only four female veterans in the house, congresswoman hula han will join the conversation. Morning joe moments away. N thn morning joe moments away you got to move the phone in front of you like. Like its a mirror, dad. You know . Alright, okay. Hows that . Is that how you hold a mirror . 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Its foolishness, about you got to be this progressive or that progressive. That phrase, defund the police, caused Jamie Harrison tremendously. Real talk with jim clyburn what sat down with Alexi Mccammond who joins us now. Good morning to you. What clyburn had to say to you and the message to democrats i think is one that were going to be grappling with Going Forward for the next couple of years frankly, because democrats did lose streetses eats in the hous werent expecting to and on the senate side didnt win as many seats as perhaps they thought they would heading into election night. Weve already seen the ramifications of that and how republicans have reacted to President Trumps refusal to concede, the reality a lot of republicans came out to vote for President Trump and, of course, the fact that democrats now have slimmer majorities as they are going to be trying to governing partners in the biden administration. What do you think this means for progressives handles themselves Going Forward and knit themselves together considering what happened. That conversation, the clip you played with congressman clyburn reflect wag youre saying, the tension were seeing within the democratic between some of the more establishment folks like clyburn and progressive meshes like alexandria owe casa cortez, blaming the slogans around the liberal policies for the demise of democrats in certain districts that couldnt handle the weight of the policies. I think were seeing that tension unfold now and while democrats might be celebrating their victory in the white house with joe biden defeating President Trump to your point theyre going to have to figure out how to make the two wing of the plane operate in the same direction and thats going to be difficult when members are feeling increasingly emboldened because of the losses they saw to speak out against those members. Its going to be harder to get folks to sit down at the table if some of the progressive members feel sidelined and might not be willing to work with them in the same ways and more antagonistic because of it and were starting to see that. Lets talk about how joe biden handles this in context. Youve been covering the campaign in wilmington and the message we saw from the president elect yesterday was in the face of comments from mike pompeos, the president s refusal to concede a message of hold steady, you know, keep the faith, everything is going to be fine if we just continue ahead on this track. Do you sense that that is going to hold even if the president drags this out and even if republicans drag this out, potentially all the way through the holidays and to january 5th which i think is the next important deadline for Senate Republicans who are trying to keep their majority . Yeah. I mean its kind of fascinating to seat ways in which president elect joe biden is already being put to the test not just rhetorically, but politically by republicans, by the president who refused to admit that he won the election and President Trump, of course, refuses to concede the election. But the public statements that were seeing from joe biden suggests a way that hes ready to handle this moving forward and that also reflects the way that he ran his campaign. As you know, casey, he talked about uniand bringing the country together and hes following through on the promise. Alexi mccammond, thank you very much. Really appreciate your time and insights this morning. And as we move forward on this wednesday, i just want to take a personal moment to say that im humbled and we here at way too early are humbled by and grateful for the service of all of our veterans on this veterans day morning. We cant thank you enough for the freedom and this democratic system that we all enjoy. Thank you very much. That was way too early. Stick around, morning joe starts right now. After a moment of posing for photographers, it was into the white house to continue what has been day of transition business for the president elect. The president pledged personally to carter he would do everything needed to make the transition smooth. That could not have been a better demonstration of unity and friendship and goodwill than has been shown to me by president ford since the election. He escorted the reagans back outside saying were very glad to have you here. The president was most