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I dont know that she said that or was that written out by adam schiff and schumer and pelosi. It sounds like somebody else. I dont believe it could be. It could be. It might not be too. Its just too convenient. The president doubts Ruth Bader Ginsburgs dying wish as Mitch Mcconnell locks down key votes for a quick replacement. The question is do democrats have a plan to stop them . Plus, the cdc changes its guidance again on whether the coronavirus is airborne, claiming the latest update shouldnt have been posted. The question is does anyone know whats going on . And the department of justice labels three u. S. Cities all run by democrats anarchist jurs dinisdictions over civil u. The question this morning, is the president really about to cut their funding . It is way too early for this. Good morning and welcome to way too early, the show that definitely debates the alarm clock every morning. Im kasie hunt on this tuesday, september 22nd. Well start with the news and the battle over the Supreme Court. The president says hell announce a nominee either friday or saturday, and there are two serious contenders. Meanwhile two more republican senators have switched their positions from 2016 on whether president s should appoint Supreme Court nominees in an Election Year. Chuck grassley of iowa and cory gardner whos locked in a tough reelection bat colorado both say they will support moving ahead with a nomination. In 2016 when president obama nominated merrick garland, grassley said, quote, the people shouldnt be denied a voice. Now he says in part, quote, the constitution gives the senate that authority, and the american peoples voices in an election couldnt be clearer while the direction in 2016 under a divided government, there is no such ambiguity in 2020. So make no mistake, grassley added, if the shoe were on the other foot, Senate Democrats wouldnt hesitate to use their Constitutional Authority and anything else at their authority to fill this seat. Back in 2016 cory gardner said this, quote, the next president of the United States should have the opportunity to fill the vacancy on the Supreme Court. In a Statement Last night announcing his support of a vote on the president s nominee, gardner didnt explain his reversal on Election Year nominations. Joining me now, nbc news correspondent leanne caldwell. Leanne, i want to get to your thoughts on how its shaping up on conservativing on abortion, but lets start with the news overnight where Lindsey Graham told sean hannity, we got the votes before the election. What is the thinking right now behind the scenes on whether they can push for a final vote because we know some people had been arguing to do the hearing but wait to have the vote until after the election. Whats the calculation . So i think that the concurrence is split according to the people im talking to, and theres two trains of thought, kasie. The first is go ahead and get this done before election day because if the president lieus on election day, if they lose the senate on election day, it proves much more difficult to prove this vote. Theyre saying, we have the white house, we have the senate, lets go ahead and do it and preserve a conservative court. Then it will motivate conservative voter, the evangelical voters in some of these critical states not only for the president but for Senate Republicans trying to win reelection as well to get to the polls on or before election day to ensure that that Supreme Court nominee is seated on the cou court. Those are the political applications. There are Practical Applications as well. Can they get the background check done and the vote on the senate floor done before the election . Thats a pretty heavy taf fk you compare it to recent nominations that have gone through, kasie. Not unprecedent but tricky. Do you think its a split between Mitch Mcconnell and the white house . Is it the white house that wants to push this through right away and mcconnell and republicans want to give themselves a stronger chance of holding onto the senate, or is the dynamic different . I think its a little mixed. Of course, the president has come out and says he wants a vote before election day. Also Lindsey Graham wants a vote before election day. And then you have these conservatives who whose big focus is a conservative judiciary who want a vote before election day. You have senator josh hollholly senator ted cruz, these members who care so much about the court want to get this done. And then you have mcconnell who wants to maintain his majority in the senate. Of course, its important to him, but, of course, keeping his position as majority leader is just as important to him, kasie. Right. Theres the maintaining power argument and the conservative abortionrelated argument. Yeah. Leigh ann, very quickly, reality check here. Can the democrats do anything to stop this from happening . Not really. Procedurally, not really. Theyre in the minority. Speaker pelosi said on chris hayes last night that she completely shot down the idea of shutting down the government in order to stop this. Of course, theres a government funding deadline just days away that both the house and the senate have to do. Pelosi said thats not going to happen. Democrats say any of these retaliatory tactics are not good. They think that it hurts them in these critical battleground states, and they need to focus on winning in november instead, kasie. All right. Nbcs leigh ann caldwell. Thanks so much for getting up early with us. The late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg will lie in repose and shell become the first female to lie insta in state. It will allow for a public viewing outdoors. A private interment will take place next week. One of muellers team says they failed for fear of being fired. Andrew weissmann writes in his new book that the team, quote, could have done more in the ties between the Trump Campaign and russia in the 2016 race. In the first insider account, weisman says the team shied away from scrutinizing the president s finances to avoid being disbanded. Wei weissmann says he believes that mueller may have been illsuited for such a politically charged investigation and that the former fbi director should have explicitly said the president obstructed justice. Weissmanm says there are questions still to be answered. He writes, we dont know if the president had other business dealings with russia before the election, how they may have aided or constrained his campaign, or even if theyre continuing to influence his presidency. The book where the law ends inside the Mueller Investigation will be available september 29th. Still ahead, were going to play Lindsey Grahams latest remarks. Plus my good friend Philip Rucker will join us with his reporting on the latest battle. Were back here on way too early in just a moment. Way t early in just a moment. Its my 4 10 noexcuseson gameday migraine medicine. Its ubrelvy. For anytime, anywhere migraine strikes without worrying if its too late, or where i am. One dose of ubrelvy works fast. It can quickly stop my migraine in its tracks within two hours, relieving pain and debilitating symptoms. Do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. Most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. Migraine hits hard. Hit back with ubrelvy. 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They turned a 100 deficit into a 2417 lead. The raiders go on to beat the saints, 3424. Now to prohockey and the quest for the lord stanley cup. The lightning jumped out to a 30 lead against the stars. They come back and even it. Game three of the best of seven series is tomorrow night. And in major league baseball, the Oakland Athletics become the first team to lock up a division crown, ending the astros threeyear rein as a. L. West champion following the 610 loss to the mariners. Were not sad about it. Its oaklands First Division title since 2013 as they head to the playoffs for the Third Straight season. Time now for weather. Lets get to meteorologist bill karins for the forecast. Bill, good morning. Hey, good morning, kasie. Wereoing to talk weather and big climate news thats going on. First lets talk about Tropical Storm bay tachlt it was a big rain event and behaving itself. Its southsoutheast to the hewn area. We have one here. Still 11 Million People are at risk of flash flooding. It looks like the highest rainfall totals will be in southern louisiana and then spreading to the southeast as we go throughout the next couple of days. Notice were not having anything too dramatic thats going to cause too many issues out there. The west coast is fine and areas of the east coast is fine, although its a little chilly in the northeast. This is eyeopening. There was a political poll asking voter as what their top priority is. This is the first time they everybody ever seen this for the democratic voters. This was the npr nbc news marist poll. Climate change was the top. And then later, it wasnt even in the top five. Ive never seen before where its the number one topic. Lets look at lately. Just in august, we had 4 billion weather disasters in the country, isaias, the wind and wildfires, and hurricane laura, Hurricane Sally hit last week, and now you look at whats going on and how these continue to add on top of each other. In this year alone, weve had 15 billion weather disasters across the country. The average is exclusively seven. This is the sixth Straight Year with 10 billionplus climate events. Instead of spending the money to fight climate change, were going to pay for all of these individual events one after another out there. Kasie, it was eyeopening and shocking to see that poll, even with coronavirus and the economy, the number one top concern for the poll is climate exchange. Were all experience it in our own lives. You and i were talking about smoke from the fires in california that made it all the way here to the east coast. I cant help but wondering if the polling is reflective of the message questioning the under leeing science. Even Mitch Mcconnell is saying, yes, this is happening, the question is what are we going to do about it. Just how much it costs is an argument for industry. Bill karins, thank you as always. Its going to be so interesting. They are for sure. Thank you so much, bill. Still ahead, the president threatened to with hold funding from democratic cities that are under stress. And is the u. S. Still short on critical ppe like face masks . Were back in just a moment. Were back in just a moment. My wife and daughter had been killed in an automobile crash, and lying in the bed were my two little boys. I couldnt have imagined what it wouldve been like if i didnt have insurance to cover them immediately and fully. Forty years later, one of those little boys, my son beau, was diagnosed with terminal cancer, given months to live. I cant fathom what would have happened if the Insurance Companies had the power to say, the last few months, youre on your own. 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Back in march taylor was shot and killed by the agencys narcotics officers serving a warrant at her apartment. Theyll see if they violated any policies. Taylors death has sparked more than 100 days of protests around the city. The department of justice yesterday classified the cities of portland, seattle, and new york, as quote unquote, anarchist jurisdictions, marking them for a lot of federal funding at the president s instruction. Yesterday they have refused to undertake previous measures to counteract these criminal activities. Attorney general bill barr released the following statement with the announcement. We cannot allow federal tax dollars to be wasted when the safety of the zinltry hanks in the balance. Its my hopes the cities will become serious about performing the basic functions of government and start protecting their own citizens. Its been called a political stunt and they threaten to sue. Letitia james said its an attempt to scare americans and added it should be prepared to defend this illegal order in court, which hypocritically lays the groundwork to defund new york and the very types of Law Enforcement President Trump pretends to care about. Yesterday joe biden said hes creating a panic in the face of an outbreak. He wasnt talking about a health panic. He was focused the stockmarket. Trump was worried if he told the public the truth, there would be a panic on the Financial Markets and that would hurt his chances of being reelected. Thats how donald trump views the world. He sees the world from park avenue. I see it from where i grew up in a town like this, from scranton, pennsylvania, a hard scraping hardworking town just like so many more across wisconsin. When i look at the world from park avenue, basically all i can see is wall street. Youd think wall street built this country. And at a Trump Campaign event yesterday, ohios Lieutenant Governor john husted was booed for suggesting that the audience wear masks. The recap captured that moment. If you go in a Grocery Store where youve got to wear one, right . Hang on, hang on. Just listen up. Just listen up. [ booing ] all right, i get it. But if somebody tells you to take it off, you can at least say that youre trying to save the country by wearing one of President Trumps masks, right . All right. Wow. More than six months into the coronavirus pandemic, hospitals are still facing shortages of n95 masks and respirators, creating fear among Health Care Workers that during the winter season they still wont have enough supplies. According to the Washington Post, President Trump has used the Defense Production Act Authority far less when it comes to n95 masks and other respirators, allowing major manufactures to scale up as they see fit and potential new manufacturers to go untapped and underfunded. This has left organizations that represent Health Care Workers and facilitying pleading for more information while the administration maintains the government has already done enough and that the ppe industry has stepped up on its own. But as the weather cools and the death toll climbs, americas Health Care Workers fear that when winter comes, they still wont have enough respirators, and the longer the shortage lasts, the longer n95s will remain largely out of reach for the millions of others who could be protected by them if we had enough of them. Unbelievable. Still ahead here on way too early, the cdc updated its guidance on the coronavirus just to change it again yesterday. What the agency is now saying about the spread of the virus. Plus were going to talk with phil rucker about the battle over the Supreme Court as Mitch Mcconnell battles over the president ial nominee. Before we go to break, we want to know why youre up way too early. You can tweet. Use the waytooearly. 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Its 5 30 on the east coast, 2 30 out west. Im kasie hunt. Well begin this half hour with more of the news as Senate Republicans continue to push for a vet on a Supreme Court nominee less than 50 days before the election. As of today, there are 43 days until november 3rd and 104 days until the end of this congress. The senate has more than sufficient time to process a nomination. History and precedent make that perfectly clear. There was clear precedent behind the predictable outcome that came out of 2016. And theres even more overwhelming precedent behind the fact that the senate will vote on this nomination this year. Were going to keep our word once again. Were going to vote on this nomination on this floor. Weve got the votes to confirm Justice Ginsburgs replacement before the election. Were going to move forward in the committee. Were going to report it to the United States senate so we can vote before the election. Thats the constitutional process. After kavanaugh everything changed with me. Theyre not going to intimidate me, Mitch Mcconnell, or anybody else. They faced hard pushback from democrats after notoriously opposing voting on former president obamas Supreme Court justice pick back in 2016, only to seemingly flip flop now. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, meanwhile, paid tribute to the late Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg on the senate floor yesterday, remembering her as a woman of great right owness and v valor. Then he turned to politics. Leader mcconnell and chairman graham have made a mockery of their previous position. They seem ready to show the world their word is no good. Its enough to make your head explode. And then to hear leader mcconnell up on the floor trying to defend this. Pathetic. Pathetic. If the Senate Majority over the course of six years steals two Supreme Court seats using completely contradictory rationales, how could we expect to trust the other side again . How can we push one another if when push comes to shove, when the stakes are the highest, the other side will double crosstheir own standards when its politicallied a van tanks. Tell me how this would not spell the end of that supposedly great deliberative body. Joining me now political analyst for nbc and nbc news, my friend phil rucker. Thanks for getting up so early with us, phil. Its really great to have you on the show. Lets start where Chuck Schumer left off there and also what the white house is looking for behind the scenes. Ive spent a lot of time reporting on Mitch Mcconnells thinking around how this should play out, but ive seen reports that the white house in particular is pushing for this all to happen before the election. What does the president and his aides want to see from the senate in the next 40someodd days. Yeah. Well, first of all, kasie, congratulations for the show. Im so excited for you. Its going to be a great hour every day of the week, so congratulations. Im glad to be here with you. In terms of what the white house is looking for, you know, the president wants this vote to be completed for this justice the eventual nominee to be confirmed by the senate before the november 3rd election of, i guess now, 41 days. Mcconnell can make that happen, of course, given the calendar, you know that. Hes in charge of that process. But the president is not really interested in holding off on the eventual confirmation vote during the lameduck session, and i think thats in part because of all the political uncertainty. They cant control whats going happen after the election. The white house knows that this election, trump could lose the election or it could be very close or we could not have a declared winner for a number of days or weeks after november 3rd, and so they want to take care of the Supreme Court pick while theres more certainty in the environment before things change, and theyre also looking to postelection litigation fights potentially if the result is closed in a number of these battleground states. The president has been very transparent about his intentions to fight the lawsuit, to challenge the Election Results in the federal results. That, of course, could go all the way up to the Supreme Court as it did 20 years ago with bush v gore, and so the white house wants to see nine justices on the Supreme Court if that would be the case, and, of course, they feel trump would benefit by having the ninth seat filled by his own nominee. You know, i was going to ask you exactly that as a followuppings because theres the political followup in the senate, what does Mitch Mcconnell want to do to hold onto poweller for himself in the senate, but do you think the white house at this point basically expects the result of the election to be litigated in the courts, and what else are they doing around this to try to prepare for it . They do. You know, the president has said the quiet part out loud, so to speak. Hes made clear that his intention is to pursue litigation, to take this into the courts if these battleground states are as close as the polls suggest today they will be. In fact, if trump were to lose in a number of states narrowly, he fully intends, i believe, to appeal those results, to claim that there was Election Fraud in the mailin balloting. This is something ees laid the groundwork for for months now. Theyve assembled a large legal team to prepare for some of these challenges in the states. So it could be a very ugly november and des if we think that theres not going to be a clear outcome. You know, they want the court on their side. Its one of the reasons the republicans have moved so aggressively and urgently these last three years to stack the courts with as many jurors as they can, to fill ought these positions quickly with anyone the president puts forward, and that strategy continues with the Supreme Court today. Yeah. We have been covering that carefully. Very quickly, phil, Amy Coney Barrett met with President Trump. She seems to be the strong frontrunner. Whats your sense of whether this is how were going to move forward . Is she likely to be the nominee, or does Barbara Lagoa still have a shot . Barrett has the momentum inside the white house. Shes sort of a known quantity in part because she went through this process two years ago as a finalist for the seat Brett Kavanaugh eventually had, and shes good with evangelical conservatives. However, the president is also enticed by lagoa, first cuban american, and theres a belief she could lock down the seat in november. If they want to move fast, Amy Coney Barrett seems like the better bet. Phil rucker, thanks for getting up early with us. Thank, you kasie. The cdc has removed its previous language saying the coronavirus can spread through the air. On friday the agency updated its website that the virus can transmit beyond six feet and that indoor ventilation was vital to prevent infection. Before then, the cdc noted it spread primarily between people in close contact through droplets by those infected. It was confirmed the agencys update was scrubbed. They said, quote, unfortunately an early draft of a revision went up without any technical review. The agencys website now says the cdc is currently updating its transmissions regarding the transmission. The updated language will be posted. It is the third major revision to cdc information or guidelines since may. Earlier this morning we reported that Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg will be the first woman to lie in state at the capitols rotunda. If you want to be smart, you can tell your friends rosa parks was the first woman to have a public viewing in the capitol rotunda. Still ahead, were going to gather around the water cooler to hear what Ellen Degeneres has to say after her hiatus. Way too early. Were back in just a moment. Wa were back in just a moment. Stay restless with the icon that does the same. The rx, crafted by lexus. Lease the 2020 rx 350 for 409 a month for 36 months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. Does it worry me . Absolutely. Sensodyne sensitivity gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. Theres no question its something that i would recommend. The largest 5g network. With tmobile for business, your business has an easy choice. 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And the peace of mind of knowing that important things like your prescriptions, and ballots, are on their way. Every day, all across america, well keep delivering for you. And at fidelity, youll get planning and advice to help you prepare for the future, without sacrificing whats most important to you today. Because with fidelity, you can feel confident that the only direction youre moving is forward. Time now to gather around the water cooler that is going to have people talking today. Ellen returned for her 18th season after a hiatus. Employees say they faced racism, fear, and intimidation while working on the show. Heres what the host had to say about it in her opening monologue. As you may have heard, there were allegations of a toxic Work Environment at our show and there was an investigation. I learned that things happened here that never should have happened. I take it very seriously. I want to say im so sorry to the people who were affected. I know im in a position of privilege and power and with that comes responsibility and i take responsibility for what happens at my show. This is the Ellen Degeneres show. I am Ellen Degeneres. My name is there, my name is there, my name is on underwear. We have had a lot of conversations over the last few weeks about the show, our workplacing and what we want for the future. We have made the necessary changes. A and today we are starting a new chapter. A remarkable time for Ellen Degeneres. Meanwhile tributes for the late Justice Ginsburg have poured in across the country and theyve made it to the steps of wall street. The iconic fearless girl was first installed on wall street in 1917 and now she has donned a lace collar. They took out a full page ad in the New York Times with a caption that reads, quote, heres to the original. How nice is that. Still ahead, were going to go live to cnbc for an early look at whats moving u. S. Markets. 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Completing the census ensures federal dollars are spent on schools, hospitals, and restorations in our neighborhoods. Funding is at stake for marginalized communities. So make it count to be counted. The more you know. Welcome back. Time to get all up in your business. Wall street is on track to have its worst september in 18 years as stocks yesterday saw a major decline. For that lets bring in cnbcs Geoff Cutmore live from london. Geoff, whats the story . How are the markets looking this morning . Yeah. Its a little bit better this morning, i have to say. It was really an ugg session yesterday with the dow closing off over 500 points. The interesting thing was we didnt see a similar selloff in the nasdaq. In fact, we saw all the markets bounce off in the lows and the nasdaq finished nearly where it started the trading session, which means its fears around growth, its fears around coronavirus, and its fears that we wont get a new stimulus plan from the federal government. The experts are lining up on cnbc at the moment to tell us the worst may not be other either until we society really of a vaccine or evidence that coronavirus cases are going down. So its a time to be a little bit cautious around these markets. One other reason to be a little bit wary, the Congressional Budget Office coming out with new estimates as to where they think debt will go over the next 30 years, and theyre talking about a yearend figure of 100 of gdp and then potentially 195 by 2050, which is an eyewatering number when you see the debt is already 26 trillion at the moment in terms of the countrys debt. That equates to let me just do the math let me do the math quickly, 81,000 for every american citizen. And thats where we are today before you even talk about that 2050 number. Back to you. I am very impressed you can do math live on television. Not a thing i plan to do in my career. Geoff cutmore, thank you very much my friend. Earlier in the show we asked, why are you awake . Allison tweeted this adorable photo, with the caption im awake with scecile. Thank you for watching. For mary beth, shes up way too early because of leroy, even though hes still asleep. And kosher tweeted its 11 30 a. M. In poland and im thinking hard about my lunch options. Thank you for watching from poland. I love this one on twitter from scott flax who says at 42, i am up training to section hike the appalachian trail with two friends. Good for you. Best of luck. Next we have a look at axios 1 big thing. And on morning joe senator jon tester will weigh in on the vacancy left by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Plus former Trump National security adviser h. R. Mcmaster is going to join the conversation. You dont want to miss this. Morning joe just moments away. Morning joe just moments away. 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Neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. Memory. Focus. Accuracy. Learning and concentration. Try it today with our moneyback guarantee joining me now with a look at axios a. M. , political reporter for axios, hans nichols. Its great to see you at this very early hour, my friend. What is axios 1 big thing for this morning . The 1 big thing were looking at is bipartisan, which is good news but the bad news is its a failure. Its a bipartisan failure to get something done to invigorate the economy. As you know, as well as anyone, the cares act is past the initial one, the second one p s passed in may didnt really move. Theres a great deal of concern what this will do across industries, not just for Small Businesses but for hospitals, states, localities, congress has failed to get something done. And the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and all thats going to inject makes it less likely youll have any sort of stimulus, any sort of package before the election. Kasie . I was going to say, hans, this was already relying on nancy pelosi being able to cut a deal with the Trump Administration and that was foundering. Now, the temperature has just been turned up, democrats are so angry about how republicans are handling this Supreme Court vacancy. It seems impossible that something is going to get out there before the election. And that seems like it could potentially have ramifications for the economy overall, no . It will have short term and long term ramifications for the economy. This isnt just a fourmonth window or a window to the end of Donald Trumps first term or whatever happens in january. This has generational impacts. When you look at the effect on schools, day cares. The failure right now by washington d. C. Is going to have longterm consequences. And its something were hearing for a lot of our sources. You know this as well. Now, sometimes deadlines can be forcing. We have a start of the new fiscal year, that could be a potential opportunity but theres not a lot of impetus and momentum for any sort of bipartisan progress. Its really discouraging for a lot of people who were hoping there was more help out there. Youre also reporting about the growing complaints of the politicalization of the cdc. Yeah. What are you reporting about whats going on there . It almost reads like censorship really . One with the cdc we see a lot of trust thats been eroded, a lot of errors. Just over the weekend they had a website, something that went up and they had to take it back down. Theres another angle to the story and thats how it bleeds into whats happening with the vaccine. Our new polling shows a great deal of vaccine resistance. That is a huge problem. Ill give you one data figure, kasie. In august, there were about 17 of americans said theyd take a first generation vaccine, thats down to 9 . Across the line theres a great deal of growing resistance the idea of vaccine and that just indicates a fundamental lack of trust in science and what our institutions are doing. Kasie . Well, hans, we were just showing a chart, maybe we can throw that back up on the screen. This is not one party or another party where this decline in trust is showing up. Its clearly there are more democrats who are excited or willing to do it, but those trend lines all go in the same direction. And youre i take your point about science absolutely. But it also seems like theres a lot of distrust in President Trump and, you know, frankly the fact that he continually. The Washington Post has documented every mistruth out there, there are a lot of them. That has a real impact where it matters. Youre directionally its going in the same direction, its going in the wrong direction. And that is a huge concern. So when you look at where it was just a couple of months ago, there seem to be some thats much more willing to accept this and embrace a potential vaccine, but its the fact that theyre moving in tandem these two lines, and that tells us something is going on, something we might not totally understand right now, something is going on with trust in this country. It could have implications and it could have disastrous implications. I know youve been on the trail with the Biden Campaign as well. It strikes me if he does win the election on november 3rd and takes office in january, this may be Public Policy challenge number one for him as president , to convince americans that this is safe, effective, and something they should do. What are their plans, what are they thinking about . Do they have policy options to try to encourage people to take this vaccine . Joe bidens personal dignity and his trust. That seems to be the plan. You saw biden speak yesterday to all americans, not just democrats. Theyre laying the ground work for this because they recognize the challenge. Kasie . Hans nichols, thank you very much. Great to see you at this hour of the day my friend. Hope to see you on the regular here. Well all be reading axios a. M. In just a little bit. You can sign up for the newsletter at signup. Axios. Com. That was way too early for this tuesday morning. Stick around because morning joe starts now. From akron to cincinnati, the queens city, cleveland, and dayton to toledo, we inherit the legacy of generations of ohio patriots like neil armstrong, annie oakley, and the amazing ulysses s. Grant. Good morning and welcome to morning joe. He was one of the better ones. He was great