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This week. Tuesday was pry mire night in ohio where the tea party wanted to make an example of john boehner, a House Speaker they have never trusted since he took over three weeks ago. Boehner ridiculed the resistance of conservatives to immigration reform. The appetite amongst my colleagues for doing this is not real good. This guy is back here with a camera, but heres the attitude. Oh, dont make me do this. Oh, this is too hard. You should hear them. John boehner was on the republican primary ballot in ohio on tuesday and the tea partys idea was to embarrass him to send the message he would hear. When the votes were counted, the egg was on the tea partys face. Boehner took nearly 70 of the vote. He crushed the closest Tea Party Candidate by almost 50 points. There was another congressional primary in ohio as well where the tea party was convinced it could win and would win. Freedom works and the Tea Party Citizens Fund chipped in 100,000 total in an effort to knock off first term congressman dave joyce on tuesday. They called him a liberal republican because he voted to reopen the government without defunding obamacare. Dave joyce won on tuesday. Another tea Party Primary challenge derail ed. There was another bad news for the tea party this week too. A new poll found support for the Movement Among republicans has fallen sharply since 2010 when 60 of republicans used to call them tea party supporters. There was great news for two more icons. For mitch much and thad cochran. Both entered potentially career threatening tea Party Primary challenges. The challengers both received Quick Support from the Senate Conservatives fund. Thats the group that was started by jim demint, a group who has torment ed in the past few years. As the hill reported on thursday, with Mitch Mcconnell and cochrans primary fast approaching, that fund has gone silent in kentucky in the final two weeks and has dropped out of mississippi where it it backed Chris Daniels primary against cochran. The Group Independent of jim demint is spending in safe primaries in the hopes of notching a win. Then there was the biggest blow to the tea party this week. North carolina on tuesday night. Republicans needed a candidate to run against democratic senator kay hagan. The establishment had its choice, thom tillis is his name. Hes the speaker of the state house of representatives. Mitt romney endorsed him. The u. S. Chamber of commerce spent heavily on his behalf. When it comes to endorsements, hes about as establishment as it gets. Meanwhile his main opponent was backed by rand paul, who is the Biggest Tea Party star in america. He came to campaign for that candidate on the eve of the primary. Freedom works also endorsed brannon. They talked up the grass roots nrge. For the past few years, this has been the setup for one tea party triumph after another, for one humiliating blow to the establishment after another. But not this week. Thom tillis won easily on tuesday. North carolina will probably be the most closely watched senate race in america this fall. Its a pivotal state for republicans o to pick off if theyre going to win back the senate. Now the establishment has the candidate it wants. This time it stopped the tea party grass roots from nominating another christine odonnell. It stopped the tea party from giving away the election to the democrats in the primary. So this was not a good week for the tea party. At least on the surface. I say that because if you look a little closer, there was a different story that emerges. The Tea Party Candidates got shellacked and they are running away from republican primaries. The wind on that level is out of their sails. But why is that happening . Is it because Republican Voters have suddenly moved to the miltd toward moderation, toward compromise . Or is it because the republican establishment moved toward the tea party . Take thom tillis, he has all the establishment endorsements and gotten title, state House Speaker, hes a professional politician. But on the issues, thom tillis is indistinguishable from the tea party. Hes pushed bills through the house in North Carolina and into law that have slashed tax rates for high earners and have radically reduced unemployment payments to to jobless residents, that have barred North Carolina from expanding medicaid and that have cut hours at polling places and mandated voter i. D. Asked if Climate Change is a fact at a primary debate this spring, tillis said no just like his Tea Party Opponents said no. No state in the last two years has moved more sharply, more dramatically to the right away from the middle and toward the tea party than North Carolina and tillis has been instrumental to making that happen. This is the real story u of the sudden resurgence of the establishment. Its not that the republican establishment is really figured out how to beat the tea party. What they have figured out is the wisdom of an old adage. If u yo cant beat them, join them. We know what happens when they nominate unfringed candidates. Its a big reason they squandered chances to win back the senate in 2010 and 2012. Now in 2014 they have another golden opportunity to grab the senate. But this time a new question is on the table. What happens when republicans package tea Party Ideology in a disciplined, well credential candidate like thom tillis . If it talks like an establishment republican but votes like a tea party republican, will there still a price to be paid in the general election . Thats the question that the race in North Carolina and that control of the u. S. Senate may well hinge on. Here to talk about all of this we have a political writer. And an associate page editor at the new york pams. And david korn, thank you for joining us. Jim, i will start with you where all that primary action was this week i guess the first question is tell us about thom tillis. Every headline in the country this week says the establishment candidate wins. Some even said the moderates get their way. When i look at thom tillis and what he has overseen in the legislature i see a tea party republican. Is that a Fair Assessment of him . You know, i dont know. The whole Republican Party in North Carolina theres no doubt that the party has moved to the right, but theres still a spectrum in the party. Rand paul was here and he referred to tillis as democrat liel light. We ticked off the big ticket items in the last few years. What is it in tilliss record legislatively that would make somebody like rand paul say democratlike . I dont think tillis is on the would agree with rand paul and greg brannon on a numb of things on downsizing the federal government to the extent they want to do it. He has pushed deregulation, lower taxes in North Carolina, and driven North Carolina in a conservative direction. Yes, he has denied Climate Change. He came out in favor of the shutdown last fall. But i think a lot of that might have just been to e repeal to the Republican Base in the primary. Thats a question we were asking about mitt romney in 2012. Is he secretly a moderate . I guess this illustrates what im saying, the difference between the tea party in the republican establishment is like who hides u it better. I think the tea party should have a banner that says mission accomplished. Its pulled the whole Party Forward to the right to match the gravitational pull of the base. The tea party has had two components. One is a far right. I dont mean that derogatorily. Libertarianism, cut the federal government. But its also had a crazy side. And so greg brannon, who was running against thom tillis, at mother jones we reported that he spoke at a pro rally. Public session a marxist plot. Maybe that attracted rand paul to him. But thom tillis puts that aside because that does turn off moderate voters. So he put the crazy to the side but has kept the hard and fast ideology with a little bit of craziness in Climate Change. Thats the question im asking here. Okay, you look at the Tea Party Candidates who have blown races in the last few years. Christine odonnell had to say im not a witch. It was sort of at that level when they played to a caricature. We have seen thats destructive for republicans. Lets take a look at thom tillis. Hes a disciplined, polished candidate. Hes been in politics a long time. Hes not going to say the stuff that brannon would have said. Is hes going to be disciplined. But on paper, youre looking at far right ideology, is he going to pay a price for that in a state like North Carolina . So much of it depends on what kind of turnout we get, but kay hagan is counting on that. Shes given support for the Affordable Care act. Shes going to push him on ideology. And i do think that we have seen a lot of turmoil in North Carolina. You have a governor who is a real moderate, one of the hand ful left when he was mayor of charlotte ran on that basis and became a radical conservative with thom tillis leading the way for him. Theres a lot of anger about that, but will those voters turn out. If you look at the Republican Party, both parties have an ideological wing. It was a progressive wing of sorts. It was Teddy Roosevelt against howard taft and moving on. Now theres no establishment moderate wing. Its a wing of people who are the establishment who are far to the right of Ronald Reagan against a group of people who are bat proof crazy. So when you look at thom tillis, how do you think of somebody like tillis . I agree partly with what norm said, but what we have seen here is actually something we have seen going back decades. Just 20 years ago if you saw what happened with the rise of ross perot, whenever you see these populous movements, they get coopted by one of the larger parties and i think thats basically whats happening here. The republicans saw this populous element in terms of the tea party and what it was doing. They nurtured it for the first couple years. In fact, we saw many benefits coming out of it in 2010 coming out of the house, but they saw some of the problems that arose from the government shutdown. They said, okay, we need to take that energy, bring it into the party, focus on the ideological elements and push down the crazy. Heres the question. So okay, if the success of the establishment were seeing this year is they are not going to nominate a greg brannon who said Second Amendment if they are not going to nominate a christine odonnell, but they will nominate somebody like thom tillis who is going to satisfy the tea party because the establishment of the Republican Party, its a conservative party. And as tom said, the sort of what might be considered the progressive element of the Republican Party has basically been falling by the wayside going back to barry goldwater. So this is not surprising that its continuing this move to the right and the establishment reflects that. I guess it comes to the ideological question and also how do we govern. Thom tillis supported the government shutdown. Are you going to let somebody willing to compromise . Its always been a conservative party and sometimes its a little less conservative or more. Now its in a period of more conservative. It sets up a really clear, really clear cut ideological divide in North Carolina and a lot of other places. In some ways it makes it harder for the democrats because they cant rely on selfsabotaging. So they have to make arguments for obamacare, expansion of medicaid, Climate Change argument again and again and again, because its how the establishment, which make s it more powerful to be mouthing these far right ideological views with guys like thom tillis or Mitch Mcconnell in the senate who are well trained politicians who know how to win. Ultimately thats actually good for the public debate because youre not going to have i think at some liberal democrats would put it, youre not going to have a kay hagan trying to run as a democrat light. Shes decided to make it a battle over Medicaid Expansion, which is a good debate to have. I want to play a clip about kay hagan standing up for Medicaid Expansion. It was something to watch. Well show that when we come back. 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Not a good number for republican governor state like North Carolina. You can see kay hagan there sees an opportunity to play up part of the Affordable Care act and run against that unpopular number and attach him to tillis. I was just going to say robert said theres a history of extreme elements that get coopted into the party. This is a case of a party being coopted by extreme elements. Its the other way around. In fact, if youre a republican now and you say maybe we have to realize the Affordable Care act is here to stay and lets look at improve iing it it, you are it becomes a difficult thing to do. The Medicaid Expansion we have had more pragmatic conservative governors who said its crazy not to take this on. But for the most part, if you argue in favor of it, you are per son non grata. Given the study of health of people in massachusetts if youre not insured, more die, the failure to move forward with an alternative is going to leave some republicans in some states on the defensive on this issue. I want to get gym and charlotte back into this. I want to ask about this strategy were seeing here from kay hagan where she sees not good poll numbers for pat mccrorc. Theres a backlash against what they have done at the state level. Do you think shes going to get traction of making tying tillis to mccrory, thats thom tillis, do you think thats going to be a factor in this race . I think absolutely. I dont think its as much tying him to mccrory but to the General Assembly who passed all these things last year. The mine field is the legislature goes back in session on wednesday for another six to eight weeks. So anything could happen. So shes going to be making that an issue. Dont forget that the protests are going to kick up against as soon as the legislature goes back in session. That will keep all these things in the news again. Is there polling down there or do you have a sense when it comes to Medicaid Expansion how that breaks . Is that on their radar . Is that something that kay hagan can exploit and provoke outrage over that this hasnt happened . I think its something she can exploit with her base, with the Democratic Base and talk about that. I dont know how much tuned into that are the middle voters, the moderate voters, the unaffiliated voters, but she can galvanize her base with that. Just to clarify, norm said i said that the Republican Party had sort of taken over the extremist element. What i actually said was that it was the tea party was a populous uprising that the Republican Party tried to absorb. In a way, you might be seeing kay hagan try to use that populous move with medicaid. Obamacare has always been unpopular, but the Medicaid Expansion actually polls at a much stronger way. Shes using that, so shes pushing Medicaid Expansion as opposed to obamacare and that might turn out to be something to cross over from her base into the broader electorate. I think u in this race youll have Democratic Senators who supported obamacare really focusing on the features that poll very well, that are popular. Expansion everything but the mandate. Keeping your kids on, expansion of mammograms, single moms to vote, they are really telling this. Its a great fight to have. It will be a fight about obamacare, at least from the democratic side, without obama being part of it. You know the polls, if you ask people if they u think of the Affordable Care act it polls better than if you call obamacare. We will have very sharp ideological debates and fights in North Carolina and throughout the country. All the more important. What do you get states like michigan where the republican candidate says she wants to repeal obamacare but replace it with something. But whenever shes asked what would you replace it with, how would you deal with preexisting conditions, she fumbles all over the place. In the house of representatives where they have pledged they would come up with an alternative, they havent. Its a problem when you take a radical position, blow the whole thing up and not focusing on problem solving. Thats why North Carolina obviously you look at the polls, its going to be the closest. Its so important to republican chances of winning back the senate. But all the stuff we talk about at the national level, that has all played out in North Carolina in just the last two years. Now youre really going to get that contrast this fall. Youre going to get a democratic incumbent and a republican challenger who is going to have to answer for all those things he pushed through the legislature. Its going to be an interesting watch. I want to thank jim, david corn. Well see the three of you later in the show. More critical primaries coming up all month long. Well discuss what is at stake. Thats straight ahead. We asked people a question, how much money do you think youll need when you retire . Then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. I was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. Im going to have to rethink this thing. Its hard to imagine how much well need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. So maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. Whatever happened to good . Good is choosing not to overshoot the moon, but to land right on it. Good is maxwell house. Good to the last drop i have a great fit with my dentures. I love kiwis. Ive always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. 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These are races that will tell us what directions democrats and republicans are headed. In some cases, states that are either deeply blue or red will essentially serve to pick the winners for novembers election. Lets look at whats on the calendar for the rest of may. Turning to kentucky where ten days from today Mitch Mcconnell, the Top Republican in the u. S. Senate, the architect of the reflection strategy that republican z have e deployed against obama, will try to head off matt bevin. As we asked in the last segment, what is the price of that survival . Has mcconnell compromised himself pr a very close race with the democrat this fall. Joining me at the table is benji. You have been traveling to cover all these primaries. Lets look at kentucky. Mcconnell versus bevin, all the talk six months ago is mcconnell might have to worry about being the next bennett from utah, the next republican who gets taken down by one of these things. Looks like hes going to survive. But has there been a price . Has he had to do things to shore up his right flank that have exposed him in the general election . Yes, Mitch Mcconnell has been very careful about this, about making sure to minimize his vulnerabilities. The biggest single example is that he has rand paul supporting his campaign and part of the reason, one would guess, is he has jesse benton running his campaign, who used to work for rand paul, ron paul, married to ron pauls granddaughter. Hes become very close with the paul family. Hes at the mercy of the pauls. There was a tape that kacame ou. Look, i have to hold my nose to work for mcconnell, but its all good for paul later on. Normally you would fire your campaign manager. He cant. He cant defend the line. Its rough because virtually 100 of them are huge rand paul fans. If you ask be vin, he will tell you, rand paul, i would be just like rand paul. Its so demoralizing not to have that in your corner. The most bizarre thing i have seen this year in following these senate races is the fighting controversy in kentucky. So basically be vin went to the cock fighting rally. Bevin showed up and spoke and said i have no idea. Video turns up where hes saying he speaks saying criminal behavior if its part of the heritage of the state is a bad idea. So he was speaking about cock fighting after all. This is an area you see that matt bevin is just not the most polished candidate. This may sound like a weird statement, but its pretty unusual where i have talked to a politician and they have lied to my face. He said this was not a cock fighting rally. I have the first speaker and i left. This video shows up and every single one of those things was false. The first speaker was a guy saying, hey, were here for the cock fighting rally. It was the game fowl defender. I want to get to another one. The 20th, georgia. We think of it as a red state. Democrats have the daughter of sam nun, they think if things break right, she can win this year. Big crowded republican primary. He got five candidates in the primary. The democratic hope was the two guys at the bottom. He was one of the only people to come out to todd akins defense. It looks like neither one is going to make the runoff. Does that end democrats chances or do they still have a shot . Democrats would argue that they all are so far to the right on their positions that they would have a chance. But it gets very difficult. The swing voters in this are sort of republican leading suburban voters and seems unlikely that too much of a problem would summon. The chief vul nernlt would be elements of his business records. One issue is some of his companies havent gone so well. They are outsourcing all their production. Theres some of this vulnerability. But those voters are going to stick republican in this race. Michelle nuns advantage is she might be able to convince some of the moderate conservative leaning women especially to come over. Kingston and purdue dont leave too much of an opening for that. Its a state thats changing dem graph if i kplip democrats are looking for the next ten years to change. Look out for karen handle in this thing. If anybody could sneak up there, she started the whole planned parenthood controversy a couple years ago. Shes running with sarah palins endorsement. Its an interesting story to watch. Keep an eye on her. Tha thanks benji. A lot to get through. Appreciate it. A lot happened in politics while you were sleeping last night. Well kick it around, next. Really. So our business can be on at ts network for 175 dollars a month . Yup. All five of you for 175. Our clients need a lot of attention. Theres unlimited talk and text. Were working deals all day. You get 10 gigabytes of data to share. What about expansion potential . 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Back at the table, joined by our panel to take a close look at the headlines. We have l. Joy williams and shes joined by david corn. Lots of major news developments this morning including out of detroit where a county clerk declared that john conyers failed to hand in enough signatures to qualify for the democratic primary ballot. There wont be a final ruling until tuesday, but it means one of the longest careers in congressional history could be coming to a sudden and shocking end. Late news yesterday out of arkansas where the march of gay marriage took another step. The judge striking down the legislative and constitutional bans on samesex marriage. The decision will be appealed to the state supreme court. Rand paul is also in the news this morning. This after he dared to kbo where no republican will go these days, openly questioning his partys push for voter i. D. Laws. The white house candidate met with a group of black ministers in memphis. Afterward he told the New York Times that everybody is gone completely crazy on this thing. Its wrong for republicans to go too crazy because its offensing people. For any republican this would be news, but its especially significant coming from paul. He famously questioned part of a crucial act of 1964. More recently paul has been reaching out to leaders with a Cross Country outreach listening tour. It raises the question, is this the first time a politician has gone on a listening tour and actually listened . What do you make of this . I dont know about the Civil Rights Act to lets back off voter i. D. Hes come a far way. Notice in his comments he didnt say lets not introduce and pass these laws. He said lets not go crazy about this. Not that we might be restricting their rights. Theres a clear difference of that and people know that. He didnt lay it out, but an acknowledgment this is offending people, he spoke at howard maybe a year ago. This issue was raised by people in attendance. He at the time was, what are they talking about . Now hes saying its offending people. Do you get cookies for standing up and saying, yes, were offending people . Or do you get kudos for changing the policy that restrict the right to vote. We should send him at least one cookie. But this is a guy who believes that tax rates should be at 10 . So he wants to slash all federal assistance programs that would help white people, black people, brown people, so hes not out there as a friend of working class americans. Hes saying this is ticking peek off so maybe we should think about how we go about doing this. Hep has a long way to go. I think theres something kind of interesting here. Traditionally when republicans have made overtures to africanamericans, they are trying to appeal to them through sort of the social conservative means, either abortion or gay marriage or things like that. This time i think rand paul actually has an opportunity to kind of use his actual libertarian viewpoint and appeal to africanamericans that way. Because africanamericans have this history of government trampling upon their rights and they have a legitimate fear of big government. I think if he starts to recognize that this idea of voter i. D. Is as offensive to africanamericans as the idea of going to nra people and saying we need i. D. For you to buy a gun. Theres another point here which is he has been for felon reenfranchisement, for prison reform. This is such an interesting mix. Drug policy as well. Its going to appeal to some younger people on the nra stuff but also i dont think hes going to win a lot of votes, but its a different kind of candidate. Those are the two questions to look at. Does he tie this to specific calls for taking things off the books, but how is this received in the Republican Party because hes been making so many end rows. Another republican breaking ranks on a major election issue is mitt romney. Came out in favor of a minimum wage hike yesterday in an interview on the set with morning joe. I think we ought to raise it. Our party is all about more jobs and better pay. And i think communicating that is important to us. He wasnt on this set, he was on remote, but romney joined other notable republicans and past president ial candidates who have come out in favor of raising the minimum wage. This mornings washington post, a split is now emerging in the Republican Party on this issue. Republicans filibustered a minimum wage hike in the senate a few weeks ago with democrats making it a center piece for their strategy. Could we see progress on the issue . Not in the house. So the answer is no. This is the best evidence, if anyone thinks that mitt romney is so masochistic that hes thinking of a president ial run, that statement tells you that he is not. You cant win the president ial nomination if youre for raising the minimum wage. The split you have really gotten is between those who are in elected office and those who arent. The three you mentioned, santorum, tim pawlenty, and mitt romney. A lot of republicans in states where theres persistent high unemployment have a different view. The leaders, however, starting with john boehner, have a visceral reaction against it. The house is just they think that unemployment Training Programs will help minimum wage. Were the party that were for the blue Collar Worker and we care about them that we need to move on this issue. So it has to be those republicans that believe in this that have these districts with high unemployment that says to leadership, we need you to move on this instead of moving for multiple votes on obamacare, move it on this for unemployed workers. That could win them some votes and some momentum in other places. Santorum has had Union Support so its not surprising. 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I think it gets them to feel even more free to say. I think well have less to choose from. When you look at the controversy that grew out of the republican debates, was it because of gotcha questions from the media or rick perry not being able to think of three things on the fly . It was not the fault of the moderators or it provided a space to display their crazy. There wasnt that. But what i find interesting is that how this limits free speech that you bar people from participating in other debates, in other areas on other interest groups. Do you like this idea . I can understand why they might want to have more party control. However, even if they are not considered debates, youre going to have these forums that some of the prolife groups are going to put on. Its just the nature of how the base will move the candidates. They will go to those and they will be covered and youll start seeing honest discussion. The party can limit the official ones, but the unofficial ones will go. Its a challenge to networks here, i think. Youre being dictated to how youre going to run an event. In the past you had a network that would do a debate, decide the moderators, decide the questioners and the candidates would show up. Are you going to be used this way. Its something thats going to get a lot. A party should be allowed to tell. Who is going to be controlling their particular party. It reminds me of the nfl a few years ago realized, you know, we dont need these external Media Broadcasting our games. We can have an nfl network and youre taking control. We have to kbet one more thing in here. Its almost mothers day. In honor of that event Michelle Obama delivered the weekly white house address for the first time. She had a special message for women around the world. Take a listen. Like millions of people across the globe, my husband and i are outraged and heartbroken over the kidnapping of more than 200 nigerian girls from their School Dormitory in the middle of the night. These girls embody the best hope for the future of our world. And we are committed to standing up for them not just in times of tragedy or crisis, but for the long haul. Earlier this week the first lady posted a photo in support of the bringbackourgirls campaign. Its a horrible story. 200plus girls. Everybody is asking themselves, is there a way to get them back and now you have the first lady weighing in. Its particularly difficult because as were tweeting on the hash tag and raising awareness about this condition and asking other nations to get involved to bring them back, theres still the issue in the ground that people dont understand really the Political Landscape of what goes on because this group has been terrorizing the country for some time. Clearly the tragedy of taking girls from having an education is certainly the heart of people across the world. Im reading a number of articles about what can we do and theres obviously people has hope they are sending assistance. Theres hope to recover all or some of these girls. Theres also the question of providing support for other girls in similar situations so they can get an education and be safe while getting an education. Kudos for that speech by the first lady. I want to thank norm and rob george. The power of one in 2014, thats next. [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what youre made of. Why let erectile dysfunction get in your way . Talk to your doctor about viagra. Ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain. It may cause an unsafe drop in Blood Pressure. Side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. To avoid long term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. Stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. This is the age of taking action. Viagra. Talk to your doctor. 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I think children should be the focus of our education system. I believe a Strong Military equals a strong america. I believe there shouldnt be so much red tape. I vote for religious freedom. Every human life is worth protecting. I vote for an all of the above energy policy. Im a republican. Im a republican. Im a republican. I believe in opportunity for all. And im a republican. The gender gap isnt exactly a new concept in politics. Reaching out to women was one of the priorities that the Republican National Committee Identified in its selfautopsy after the 2012 election. Only once in the past two decades have republicans won among female voters nationally and that was in 2010 when they were winning wherever. So thats the democrats recipe for survival, drive up support with women and get the women motivate odd turn out. Thats the basic strategy and you have probably heard about it by now. Its actually a lot more complicated than that because the gender gap we often talk about is becoming something of a red herring, a misleading statistic because more and more what really matters in deciding who wins elections is the gap within the gender gap, the marriage gap, the difference between single and married women. Single women have the power to make or break the control of the senate. They are tremendously reliable democrats, increasingly reliable democrats. 2012 barack obama won the women 55 to 44 . But mitt romney actually won among married women by seven points. Obama was only able to win the women because he won among unmarried women by 36 points. 36 points he beat mitt romney by among single women. The unmarried women are growing in numbers. They account for 1 in 4 eligible voters. With marriage rates declining, their clout only figures to grow. The problem for democrats when it comes to midterm elections, unmarried women have not been showing up at the polls. Their turnout in 2010 plummeted more than 20 points from the 2018 president ial election. Thats a far more dramatic dropoff than among men. Our cover story writes, in one very measurable and consequential sense there are two americas. Theres the america that votes in president ial elections, which has helped democrats win the p popular vote in five of the last six cycles and then the one that votes more regular ly. Eisenberg points out that 127 million voters get to the polls in president ial elections, but only 78 million vote every two years, 50 million fewer. Unmarried women make up a critical part of that group. They live in every state, every district and could put the democrats over the top. Will it require a longterm campaign . What explains the marriage gap in the the first place . Is there something about marriage that turns women into skeps or being about being conservative that likes women to get married . My panel joins me now. So thanks for joining us. That question, im fascinated by this. We talked about president obama winning single women by 36 points in 2012. In 2013 this happened again in virginia. Terry got elected and defied history. He won single women by 42 points in virginia. This is staggering when you start looking at these numbers. How do you explain the basics of this marriage gap of how married women are voting republican are unmarried women are voting democrat by this large amount. Whats driving that . Another race to look at is 2010 where you had the one anomaly from the model you talked about where single women stayed home was colorado. In many ways 1 2 Michael Bennetts senate race. And in many ways that broke the tide because it embraced womens issues. They spoke specifically to women. Other races in 2010 may u not have done that. So that includes access to health care. That includes economic benefits such as raising the minimum wage. You see that in the conversation right now. It works in 2010 and 2012. But it wasnt applied across the board the way its going to be applied now. Single women move around a lot. They tend to have less economic stability. Another way to look at the numbers is women of color were the ones who made the difference. Given the historical economic disparities, these are people who are looking for specific solutions that the government can offer to kind of bridge those gaps. So as a pollster, you have been looking at demographics and poll numbers for your whole career. When you look at has it always been the case that single women are more democratic than married has the marriage gap always existed or is this a product of the last five years . Its a function of transformative changes in america that are not going away. This is not a fad. This isnt the group that were identifying this year that were going to come back and find the office. You have a majority of unmarried househol households, which is growing, and you have the Republican Party, three quarters of the evangelicals, twothirds are married, half of independents are married, half of democrats are married. Its a big divide between the country. And given what economic struggle it is being on your own, being unmarried is a big economic and values issues. Republicans seem to be moving further and further away. So these voters are becoming more and more democratic. Its part of the structural changes. We can put this up on the screen keep. Your firm did research from march. Some of the top messages that resinate with single women. Equal pay, equal health insurance, that was a top one, protecting medicare and social security, protecting job paid leave and childcare. The flip side of this though that i wonder about too, married women voting for mitt romney by 7 points. Does something happen when you get married that your priorities on issues change . Im just curious. I cant speak from experience. Not trying to ask who is married or single, but im baffled. Their points are well made. These are a lot of economic issues. Just last year women saved millions of dollars on Birth Control alone. Were not talking about mammograms or Preventive Care that are included in the Affordable Care act. So as a single woman myself, i think i would be a lot more financi financially stable if i were married and that could be one of the things. And i was thinking about the segment and talking about it this morning, i remember one of the most surreal moments of the president ial campaign. So on the one hand we targeted women voters and were having women for obama events and talking about well womens visits and all the provisions Affordable Care act would give women. On the other, and its so early to say this, we were talking about mandatory transvaginal probes. And since 2013 eight states have introduced laws about mandatory ultrasounds for women seeking an abortion or end of life. The differences between the democratic and republican parties could not be more severe. So this is definitely why youre seeing democrats talk about it. So talking about colorado in 2010 and michael bennett, sort of surprised given it was a republican year and ken buck was his opponent. Hes a tea Party Surprises who said a lot of things that were kind of out there and alarmed a lot on cultural issues. Thats something i wonder when we look at virginia last year. So 42point gap, they win the state by two points. A lot like ken buck, virginia was a state where the transvaginal ultrasound had been an initiative a year earlier. But on cultural issue, you cant get more to the right on him. Is that part of the ingredient that democrats need . Does the opposition need to play to type like that to mobilize voters like we saw in virginia . I dont necessarily think so. To the point made earlier about women of color, black women outperforming, in that race it was 97 women voted black women voted in that race. But i think certainly those races where theres a clear difference between on where republicans and democrats stand, whether its on Health Care Issues or economic issues, that certainly helps and allows us to do that. But i think as democrats, we need to be focused when those things dont exist, how do e we speak to single women voters in order to move them out. One of the criticisms we have a lot about our party is we dont spend enough as much money and investment in turning our base voters out, being single women and voters of color, in midterms. And so we have to as a party focus on telling our donors to give more during that time and putting the same infrastructure we do in president ial elections. That includes this microtargeting and focusing on womens issues of economic security, of health care, and particularly interesting about your poll in talking about medicare and the amount of single women taking care of their parents, that percentage of them caring about medicare and social security, these are messages that we can take part and focus on women to pull them out in midterm elections. And state elections. Because a lot of these bills that were seeing across the country, they are not being introduced in congress. These are bills that are being introduced in state legislatu legislatures. We have to flip those state legislatures and the Governors Mansion in order to take hold on this. So much of that, its midterm elections are key to that. So many governors offices are decided in midterms. We have to squeeze a break in here. I want to look at how republicans, specifically female candidates, are trying to deal with this. 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Karen handle is a vp at the susan ko man race for the cure, the Breast Cancer organization. She had been involved in that decision briefly to cut off funding to planned parenthood and caused a national controversy. Now shes running for the u. S. Senate in georgia. Shes in this fiveway republican primary. The pick shes making has to do with the democratic claims of the war on women by democrats. This is the pitch shes making. The democrats play book will be, war on women and income equality. You know, i have seen this in a couple places. In michigan, almost the exactly the same case shes making in an ad up in michigan. Basically the claim of democrats are saying war on women, im a woman, im a republican, is that an effective advantage among women . I have to make the comparison between latinos and republicans because just fielding la ttino candidates doesnt mean you get the latino vote the same way that just fielding women candidates doesnt mean you get that. Were not about style, were about substance. Obviously, the party is completely tarnished when it comes to medical and personal decisions. So this isnt about talking pretty to me or being emotional or as boehner said, more sensitive. Its about how youre voting and where youre standing on the matter. If republicans are going to change either policy views, do they gain any advantage or do they undo any of the damage is the better question by nominating female candidates like in a state like michigan or georgia, Something Like that. Im so unimpress ed with thi. You roll out of the convention, credibly diverse platform. People are not stupid. You cant be rolling out a set of diverse set of candidates or speakers at the same time youre dpning the vie inin i denying the right to vote. Whats that about . People understand when i listen to that i wonder if karen handle in that situation s she making a pitch to female voters or to republicans or men who are sick about hearing about the war on women. I dont know what shes talking about because karen handle is the definition of the war on women line. The defunding of planned parenthood that you mentioned was a boilerplate for what would come in the 2012 election because democrats saw the kind of support the planned parenthood had and felt embol n emboldened to campaign on these issues after they saw. She created some of this formula and it works against her. So historically republican women do not do well in republican primaries. They do not like to vote for them. Having a woman say theres no war on women, i im a woman, thats placating to republican men. But i dont think enough can be said about how stigmatizing the language is about single women that they see them about uncle sugar and the libido. The plan if only single women got married and there would be no more poverty. These are deeply profoundly condescending ways that dont have baring on the actual realities. It makes you as candidates and as a party look like an idiot. Because if the messaging youre sending is of me taking and looking at the statistics of the number of single women who are working multiple jobs, taking care of households, not only theirs but their parents and other people. Look at africanamerican women who are starting businesses and contributing to the economy and then hiring other people and then you have messaging talking about that were taking from this country. Its completely condescending and makes you look like an idiot and we dont want to look like idiots. So joy was talking about the need for democrats to focus more on mobilizing single women. We showed that dropoff between 2008 and 2010 of 20 points. Much more substantial than you saw with other groups. What are why is the dropoff so pronounced . Everybody gets that they have to be targeted and thats happening, but i think what we recognize and supported is they want politics to be relevant to their lives. Its tough out there for single women. They are on their own. Its financially tough. The little support. If you look at that agenda, a lot of that is recognition that says, hey, finally recognize how difficult it is to raise a kid and work and the kind of support you need if youre doing that. They are looking for both recognition of their lives and how tough it is. And in an agenda that would matter to them. So that matters to their motivation. The biggest motivator was pay equity in our research. Thats what had the biggest impact of interest in vote iing. And particularly to your point, if in midterm elections, if the focus was on pay equity, if the focus was on raising the minimum wage as it is here in new york city, if it was talking about after school programs, it was about these things that matter to sung l women and matter to their everyday lives that i have a slot for my child to kbo to school and somewhere for her to go after work because i work until 8 00. These are issues that directly a affect their household and directly affect their pocketbook. So those things can move them. And so we have to have candidates on the state, local and in the midterm elections that focus on those issues. Good news for single women as we talked about in the last segment, mitt romney is for raising the minimum wage. Two years time, something might happen. My thanks to my panel this morning. Why this week looked an awful lot like 1998. Well talk about it, next. Im their mom at the playground and im his mom at the dog park. 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Their goal to use opposition to bring down poll numbers as past as possible and to get him out of office as soon as possible. For Hillary Clinton and her husband for that matter, this was a brand new e phenomenon. The personal attacks that president obama was facing from republicans were similar in intensity and purpose to the relentless and personal attacks that the clintons faced from republicans for well over a decade. All the way from 1992 right up until the spring of 2008 when obama replaced the clintons as the face of the party. Just like this she discovered what life on the political stage was like when you and your husband arent the constant targets of the other party. And arent the constant subjects of scrutiny. Her poll numbers soared and so did her husbands and now she is positioned like no front runner we have ever seen before to claim the next president ial nomination, if she wants it. But does she . This week brought a vivid reminder for Hillary Clinton and all of us of the difference twiend of press attention you get when youre a nonpolitical secretary of state and the kind of press coverage you get when youre back in the game of daytoday politics. Thats what led to this. Monica lewinsky now 40 years old writing in a first person article on the last 16 years of her life ever since her affair with bill clinton became knowledge. Thats the kind of press coverage she can probably escape for good if she doesnt run in 2016. In a case of why she might not run was made recently in politico. They wrote, if she doesnt run, the single biggest factor holder her back will be the media according to an informal survey. A contentious relationship with the press was a daily reality for her for well over a decade. Something that started even before she and bill moved into the white house in 1992. Shes with barbara bush just after the election. Take a listen. Talking about the media there. Were still two and a half years from 2016. The argument was made that its so early in the president ial cycle that Monica Lewinsky resurfacing now does Hillary Clinton a favor because it will be old news again. If thats true, isnt this the kind of treatment shes in for if she runs . Is this what she wants her life to be like for the next two years, six years, maybe the next ten years . To discuss all of this our panel is back with us. Here you are. Theres a lot to talk about with this. I want to get to the question were raising about does Hillary Clinton want to go through this again . Lets start with the Monica Lewinsky thing. It seems pretty clear the idea of breaking her silence, shes done an interview, shes spoken out a number of times. It isnt like its the first time we have heard from her, but its also impossible the timing cannot be a coincidence. The hilary fever is starting. Low and behold, she has something to say. It make s it seem if Hillary Clinton e declared six months ago im den with politics, this story doesnt come out. I think part of the context here is that monica has been unable to move on with her life. She writes in her article that the scandal still dogs her. Shes been unable to get a job. Shes probably paid the most profound and lasting price of that whole experience. Bill clinton and Hillary Clinton, they all had established careers when the scandal started. They all moved on with their lives. So i think part of what is going on with Monica Lewinsky, part of it has to do with well, if shes going to be Monica Lewinsky, they might as well embrace it. That was brought up by rand paul as a way to inoculate the war on women we have been talking about. Its profoundly sexist to blame Hillary Clinton. Most of the coverage of Hillary Clinton, much of the coverage has been profoundly sexist. So i think this is going to create an enormous amount of blowback if people remember how monica was treated. She got a raw deal. A lot of the coverage of Hillary Clinton was enormously unfair. I want to show an excerpt from this. Hillary clinton in her white house years was sending letters to a friend. She knew these were being held for posterity. And in it she talked about how she did blame herself for the affair. My first thought, and e she also called Monica Looney tune. She blamed herself for her husbands affair for being emotional neglectful. The affair was nonetheless consensual, it was not a power relationship. One thing i have been hearing is people trying to make sense of the reaction that some feminists had in 1998 to Monica Lewinsky. She feels feminists were not there in 1998. She also seems to be saying hes bothered by how Hillary Clinton processed what happened. Again, to your point, this is about Monica Lewinsky and trying to move on with her life. And so shell forever be tied to the clintons. Thats just something shell have to bare. But how this is connected to Hillary Clinton and its her fault and what chances does it have against her race is completely sexist. Its condescending and its annoying. When we just had this conversation about women and what we care about and so bringing this up, this is a dig really at media, i would say, to continue this media cycle days over and over again about what a woman responsibility for her husbands infidelity is condesce condescending. Her blaming herself is not the same as baring political responsibility. Theres a point that were talking about bill and Hillary Clinton in the sense its a former president sort of going back to the white house. His wife would be president. Bill clinton is a part of the story. The least surprising story here is that the media will be bringing this story up and the republicans will be bringing this up as well as benghazi. I cant imagine that seeing these stories that hilary is saying, i cant believe this is happening again. She knows this is a narrative around it. Shes handled it. I think the voters will very quickly have view of incapslating this in way of saying we have so much at stake here. The biggest challenge is not this issue. The biggest challenge is how do you become a voice for change when the country is going to be looking for change. How do you deal with an economy that hasnt raised income equality. There are big issues in the country. But you know the clintons, so im curious what you make of this this week. Even some people on the record around Hillary Clinton talking about the she really doesnt like the way the National Media treated her and her husband. She really doesnt like how she was treated. Except when she was secretary of state. Thats totally unchanged. Its not a monica. Its not a scandal story. Its a lack of trust of the media. That was true in arkansas, it was true when they came to the white house. It was true in her 2008 campaign. Theres a lack of trust. Is this an example of that the fact that the media would bring it up . I think its totally predictable. I think part of your planning. Hillary clinton may be the only democrat that has hostile relationship with the media as your average republican. And i think maybe possibly for good reason. But i think stan is right. She now has almost 20 years of her own policy record, her own political record. The monica stuff to the extent that it may have a political factor, it may be that people are always a bit weary of the clinton drama that seem to circulate around them. But everything about Hillary Clinton, if she does decide to run for president , is going to be focused on what she did when she was senator in new york or as secretary of state. And how can she be a change agent when she has been on the scene for 25 years . This is new. We dont have the sound of this, but i want to get this quote in. But put this on the screen. Marco rubio in New Hampshire, last night, this may be the republican tactic when Something Like this comes up. Its not to talk about lewinsky directly but they are threatening to nominate someone who wants to take us to the past. The 20th century is gone. Almost hope these things in the media think about the Fleetwood Mac song and how she can run on that anthem. But i want to connect this in terms of women as candidates. And how the Media Coverage on whether its their past, whether its their personal relationships, thats just another barrier women candidates, you may not think of Hillary Clinton as being involved in politics having to face that, but women across the country who tried to emerge as candidates or trying to convince to become candidates have this barrier of how they will be treated, how they will be written about, how their personal lives, this is an example of that. It will continue to be an anchor you have to carry. My question isnt so much i have no expectation if Hillary Clinton runs in 2016, i have zero expectation anybody in the primary voting booth is going to make any connection i didnt like how she handled Monica Lewinsky. The question im interested in, we talked about it a little bit with stan about the relationship the clintons have had with the media. The significance of this moment is this is a return to what the clintons face from 1992 to 2008 and what they didnt have to face. The last six years, her feempeople even say it were the golden era of the press treatment. That seems to be ending. Well be right back. Where bacteria can multiply. Polident kills 99. 99 of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. Thats why i recommend polident. [ male announcer ] cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. [ male announcer ] cleaner, intercourse thats painfulit. Due to menopausal changes. The problem isnt likely to go away. On its own. 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Your money needs an ally. Ive always believed in a zone of privacy and i told a friend the other day that i feel after resisting for a long time ive been rezoned. That was then first lady Hillary Clinton back in 1994 at a press conference. The significance of that moment is she sat down in front of the press for a few hours that day after sort of resisting. That was her first real sort of tellall public event on white water. White water led to the whole lewinsky thing. But the point i was raising at the end of the last segment, we talked about this in the break. The clintons from 1992 to 2008, its so easy to forget that they were the daily targets of the republicans. Bisically every day. As soon as they left office, the clinton restoration is coming. You can remember after bill clinton left office, they were trying to blame him for 9 11. They never left office. Then in 2008 things abruptly changed in how the media covered them and how the republicans treated them. Barack obama became what they had been. The face of the democratic party. We now in the last five or six years grown accustomed to the clintons as these elevated figures. Above politics as the secretary of state, bill clinton, he was the great compromiser in the 1990s. They got along with him. They impeached him in the 90s. So this is a reminder, i think, to the clintons that that world they used to live in comes back if she runs. Do they want to live in that world again . Do you really think that what bill and Hillary Clinton are really looking for is a time when republicans dont attack them . They did have that. The last five years. Its on a trajectory. Its built a platform tennessee and an opportunity to do big things globally and with Hillary Clinton. They wanted to take down barack obama so they used clinton as a tool. Its an annoyance, but its not what youre looking for as an end point. Im going to pull back bringing change because i can no longer be the punching bag for republicans. We had this discussion a few weeks ago. Its tactical. Its the same reason democrats praised Ronald Reagan in contrast to the Tea Party Republicans now. Parties do this. Its purely tactical. Now if it looks that Hillary Clinton will be the nominee, if shes gearing up, shes jumping back into the ring. Im trying to thinking about this in human terms. The clintons have demonstrated back in 1992 when the jennifer flowers thing broke. They demonstrated that they are willing to stand in there and take the punches and not leave the ring. At this point, for any human being, do they look at the choice thats facing her of whether to run or not to run and look at daily attacks from the media . As a human being, do you want to go through that again if you dont have to . From a Campaign Perspective and the evaluation that Hillary Clinton is determining whether or not she wants to run, im sure that what Media Attention will happen and will they be able to cut through that in order to reach voters and win on election day in 2016 is a factor in the conversation. And certainly the personal in politics is something you think about. Do i want this information out there. Not just as a mother now, but as a grandmother. Is that the of the calculation on whether or not she runs in 2016 or not. But specifically if i can if the campaign will be able to cut through that and reach voters and have a message that reaches voters in order to pull people out. And shes also factoring in the thought that she can still be the second president to be making history. You know, not just not just succeeding in a sense after 20 years her subbed but the first female. Im real interested in the idea just watching i came of age watching the clintons take it on the chin every single day so i just wonder as a human being. One thing that is profoundly different now is there was a feeling in 2008, okay, maybe barack obama will rise above partisan strife. That was explicitly his promise. The idea was it was the clintons fault that there was a vast rightwing conspiracy against them. We have not seen any of those rightwing attacks back off. We have not seen wild conspiracy theories about the president s origins, various aspersions cast on him, we havent seen those abated at all. In some sense there was a blaming the victim situation with the, quote unquote, vast Conspiracy Theory against the clintons. So after the experience of the obama administration, you kind of the blueprint for the republican attacks against the legitimacy of the presidency started in the clinton era and took a new character in the obama administration. It raises a whole other question of when you look at how the Obama Presidency from a policy standpoint, how its really all been stalled, the government has been stalled the last couple of years. If the reality is the republicans are controlling the house, whats the presidency worth in that situation. I think thats another question but thats for another time. I wanted to get the human one out. Ill bring you all back and talk about the other one. What do we know now we didnt know last week. Our answers after this. St how g. Good is setting a personal best before going for a world record. Good is swinging to get on base before swinging for a home run. [ crowd cheering ] good is choosing not to overshoot the moon, but to land right on it and do some experiments. So start your day off good with a coffee thats good cup after cup. Maxwell house. Good to the last drop maxwell house. meowright on cue. laughs its more than just a meal, its meow mix mealtime. 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The head of the Largest Teachers Union in the country, the uft here in new york, mike mulgrew basically confessed that he sees education reformers as the enemy and he did everything he could to undermine the whole idea of teacher evaluations in the latest contract. And that is something rather disappointing. Thats what i expect a New York Post guy to be talking about. According to politico, rejecting the medication expansion could kill 6,000 people in a year. And stan . I would go with that one, but benghazi and a select committee, i think we now know the Tea Party Really does govern the house. Boehners socalled pushback is not real. The tea party governs. Thats where we will end the show, where we started basically. I want to thank l. Joy williams, rob george, irin carmon and join us tomorrow at 8 00 a. M. Looking at this weeks gamechanging testimony in the bridgegate scandal plus the interview with Elizabeth Warren. 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