I dont know if hes going to bring in sage or crystals or Something Else to pray over the whole place. What actually does cleaning the white house look like for the Incoming Biden Administration . So the General Services administration, theyre like the landlord of all the federal buildings, they will be coming in between the time that trump exits the white house and biden and his team move in. And they will clean every surface that is touched by human hands. That means the doorknobs, the light switches, all the furniture, the bathrooms, et cetera. They will also have an additional private contractor come in and do disinfectant misting, make sure theres no lingering droplets in the air. After that it will be up to biden and the team to prevent the outbreaks weve seen so many times among Top White House staff this year. So if this is whats going to happen in the white house, im wondering, will this set the new standard for all government building need to be cleaned up . Theres office of management and budget, the fbi, theres so many other federal buildings in washington, d. C. Is the Biden Administration going to set up a new standard, look, every week these buildings need to be cleaned this particular way . Or are all agencies figuring this out and using the white house as a model . So what theyve discovered is that over the course of the pandemic is that the most important thing is to not have a bunch of people in an enclosed space breathing the same air. So, yes, it is about doing the deep cleaning, but its also about allowing as many people as possible to continue working from home so that youre not all crammed in together. These buildings, many of these buildings, including the white house, are old and theyre, you know, they have cramped spaces and ventilation issues. So the best prevention is to continue to have most people working from home and only having the people who are absolutely necessary to have in person come and physically be there. So, alice, how is that going to affect meetings at the white house . Look, under the transportation, we know that theres a low bar. But trump had all sorts of people walking in and out of the the white house. He had parties. When joe biden has to have a meeting with a foreign elected official, when joe biden has to have a facetoface with some important leader, are they going to meet in another building . Is there going to be a special Isolation Chamber where theyre wearing hazmat suits and high fiving . How do they conduct meetings at the white house . Were seeing this play out. We saw it on the campaign trail and now during the transition. Everything that can be remote is remote, and luckily we all have video technology. Im joining you from my house right now and staying home and staying safe. And they are employing that whenever possible. You saw a few days ago when the president elect rolled out his health care team. Some people beamed in by video, and some people were physically there in person. And theyre using, you know, frequent testing and masks and distancing. When the president elect and the vicepresident elect are together, they are distanced and wearing masks, et cetera. And so luckily theyre not taking off in march when all of this was brandnew to us and we didnt know how the virus worked. Theyre taking many months into this, were practiced at working from home, and theyre able to use what theyve learned. So the white house will be cleaned. Youll only have a skeleton staff coming in. As we know, even if you clean a room, even if you wipe down every surface, yes, theres still droplets in the air and only so much filtration you can do. Do you know if the skeleton workers in the white house, will they be required to take the incoming vaccine . Are they considered essentially workers . Or the vaccination process comes later . The vaccine, the priority right now is health care workers. Health care workers are a Precious Resource right now, and many of them have gotten sick and died this year. Right now with hospitals nearing full in many states, its absolutely essential we vaccinate them first. That will take a lot of the first wave of supply. And then going down the list of prioritization will be other frontline workers, people at the grocery store, postal service, maybe teachers. And so itll be a while before it gets to white collar office workers, including the president s staff. Now, that could change, but that is the current understanding. So at least for a while, the greatest protector in the white house will be mr. Clean. Alicia, thank you so much for being with us. Thank you. Despite one loss after another in federal and state courts across the country, President Trump refuses to accept the reality that he lost the 2020 election. Yesterday Supreme Court dismissed a lawsuit brought by the Texas Attorney general to overturn joe bidens victory in four battleground states. And today in wisconsin, while his lawyer was actively arguing whether to argue the cases, a separate trump lawsuit failed as a matter of law and fact. Meanwhile, president elect biden spent the past few weeks quietly building a diverse cabinet, maybe not as diverse as some people like, but the challenge of unifying the country while keeping his own party united is daunting. An audio of a meeting with civil rights leaders on tuesday leaked to the intersept. He appeared to i also dont think we should get too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with Police Reform in that because theyve already labeled us as being defund the police. Anything we put forward in terms of the organizational structure to change policing, which i promise will occur, promise you. Just think to yourself and give me advice whether we should do that before january 5th because thats how they beat the living hell out of us across the country saying that were talking about defunding the police. Were not. Were talking about holding them accountable. For more on this, lets get straight to our political panel. Associate professor of Political Science at Howard University and author of american while black. And victoria desoto, assistant dean for Civic Engagement at the lbj school of public affairs, director of communications at latino decisions, and an msnbc contributor. Thank you so much, both of you, for being here. Im going to start with dr. Carter. I think this is the biggest story this week. What does it say before we get into the content, what does it say about joe bidens relationship with legacy civil rights organizations that his first meeting was already leaked before he even steps into office . I mean, i think theres probably a climate of distrust here. I mean, joe biden is exactly what folks say he is, a very centrist oldschool did he tell you really he wants to governor like hes still a senator. And i think what you saw is people trying to hold his feet to the fire because ultimately they dont trust his word. They dont trust that hes actually going to do the things that he said he would do to hold police accountable. That language is very particular. Because he doesnt actually want to go toward the progressive types of issues around decreasing funding for police and some of these other things. So i think this leakage of this tape shows theres distrust with this administration. It strikes me as interesting that hes already getting pressure from inside the room by people leaking this out. Dr. Defrancesco soto, so far there have been people who have had questions. The names hes thrown out for agriculture secretary, tom vilsack, hes been talking about doug jones as ag. What do you think different kinds of communities, africanamerican community, aapi, latino community, what are people actually looking for joe biden when it comes to descriptive representation and actually representation in his new administration . Jason, descriptive representation is essentially putting up a mirror to the country and having that mirror reflected in the cabinet. And so far it doesnt look like that. What were seeing is our country increasingly become more diversified, more black and brown folks, more folks that are of asianamerican and native american descent. And i think whats really frustrating here is that were not seeing a lot of receptivity by the Biden Administration. In addition to that, were not seeing diversity in terms of the ideological spectrum. Folks on the left, the Bernie Sanders supporters, the Elizabeth Warren supporters are also feeling frustrated. So joe biden is dealing with a whole heck of a lot of frustration. But, you know, we also have to stand back and, you know, my money is on georgia being extremely tight and perhaps going to the republicans, which means that Mitch Mcconnell is going to have a lot of say in who gets appointed. So i think i see a safety here in terms of joe biden appointing a lot of the folks that have been serving in the government in cabinet before because he wants to get folks in quickly and get serving. But at the same time, thats one win, but what happens to that diversity that he promised us during the campaign . Dr. Carter, speaking of georgia, so joe biden comes out this week and says, hey, im going to give marcia fudge hud and give one of the bestfunded agency, department of agriculture, to vilsack, who fired Shirley Sherrod. For those of you who may not remember, she was basically attacked by a rightwing group and vilsack fired her and she was in charge of agriculture in georgia. Even though some people in georgia say that that appointment isnt necessarily going to affect the races down there, it does speak to the fact that joe biden seems to be picking his friends. He seems to be picking oldschool people like susan rice. What do you think needs to be told to joe biden right now as were starting to get to the most important selection . Were now at best picture, best actor, best supporting actress, were at ag, labor secretary. What do people need to be saying in his ear right now for these selections . I think its time to let the Biden Administration be the Biden Administration and let the obama years go. If you want to have an identity that is your own, this is a historic presidency, youre in another historic white house. Joe biden will be in the record books twice for being with these two historic presidencies and now vice presidency. Going back to the people we already know, youre creating obama part 3. I dont know that i want to see or anybody in his administration wants to see the constant comparisons. Thats what hes going to say do if he keeps picking people like vilsack. While joe biden wants to talk about defunding the police, picking vilsack, who fired Shirley Sherrod and then tried to hire her back doesnt play well with the same black voters that jon ossoff and Rafael Warnock need to win need to garner in order the win in georgia. So i think if joe biden is really serious here, he has to start picking people that are fresh and new. As she disappointed out, people from across the the ideological spectrum on the left, thats going to be really essential. And that same audio, he says im not aoc, but i dont know if thats a badge of honor moving forward giving some of this new momentous here. Doesnt seem like a good idea to come into Congress Attacking someone like her. This is something that i think is huge. In california right now, gavin newsom has a very important decision to make. Senator harris is soon going to become Vice President harris. Joe biden hasnt said anything to gavin newsom. But what kind of pressure is gavin newsom going to be under to pick an africanamerican woman or a latino woman or somebody like that in california . I think its interesting. Joe biden knows that by picking senator harris that he is taking the only black woman in america out of the senate. Do you think that thats going to weigh heavily in california . You think gavin newsom is going to pick who he wants . It is going to weigh heavily. And this is not a position that i envy for gavin newsom. I mean, he has, you know, every group lobbying him to pick their own candidate, so we know theres incredibly strong pressure from the latino lobby. We know that alex padilla is one of the folks whose name has been bandied the most, Xavier Becerra before he was appointed at hhs cabinet pick was a contender. But we know black womens groups, womens groups of color have been very forceful in telling gavin newsom we need to have a woman and a woman of color here. So this is going to be a very tough decision, and then theres also the decision about who fills in for ag. Who is going to take that spot of Xavier Becerra . Lets play it out and say that alex padilla, who is, quote, unquote, the favorite for being the replacement for harris seat. Then what happens there . So jason, there are three potential highprofile seats that gavin newsom is going to have to fill. He can try to placate different groups, but we all know that the prize is that u. S. Senate seat. And we know that both africanamericans and latinos are heavily lobbying him. Latinos have never held a senate seat. Latinos make up 40 of california, so the pressure is very high on gavin newsom right now. Yeah. I think this is going to be a huge, huge story coming forward. Thank you guys so much for joining me this evening and spending part of your saturday night with us. Thank you. Next, shutting down a hospital in the middle of a surging pandemic. Well look at how that will impact a Chicago Community thats already been hit hard by the virus. And the Senate Showdown continues in georgia where ad spending hit a whopping 440 million. Will the ads make any difference. First, richard lui is here with the headlines. Hey, richard. Jason, good to see you. Some of the stories were watching this evening, kathleen casill low was arrested after driving into Immigration Rights protesters in new york city. She was charged with reckless endangerment. Police say she tried to get away from protesters pounding on her car. Two federal inmates were executed over two days in the United States. The latest was a louisiana man on death row for more than 15 years. Country music legend Charley Pride has died at 86. 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Residents, community activists, and leaders here are panicked and worried that state leaders are allowing this to move forward in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic thats hurting the very communities that these hospitals are supposed to serve. Provident is also financially struggling. Theyve downsized their e. R. And they dont even have birthing and Maternal Services here. So many of the activists and residents ive spoken to worry that this hospital is not going to be able to handle the influx. Take a look at what i learned this week. Eta davis is angry. Hes boarding a school bus in the middle of a pandemic. On her way to protest the looming closure of mercy, the hospital she depends on. Save mercy were tired of hearing theres no money when it comes to us. Reporter you would will b hard pressed o to find a black person in chicago that hasnt been hurt by covid. Black residents have been the group most likely to die of the virus since it began. So the closure of mercy, a historic hospital dedicated to serving the poor on the south side represents another heartbreak. In this community alone, we have over 216 seniors, and then we have a lot of people that are in wheelchairs Walking Around with canes. And they cant afford to take uber. What message do you think this closure sends to black and brown neighborhoods here in the city . I dont know. You might as well roll over and die. We dont care about your health. Reporter the hospital has long had financial woes and the pandemic hasnt helped. Trinity health says its not profitable enough and could close as soon as february. Patients like davis, who has a heart condition and diabetes, will immediately flow into other hospitals like provident, which has had its budget shrink too, and downsized its e. R. Dennis husband a nurse there, laid off last week. Is provident ready to handle a new influx of patients when mercy closes . Absolutely not. Theres no way that theyre going to be able to handle that. And this is the middle of a pandemic. Reporter whats your greatest fear . People get brought to provident, they need lifesaving measures immediately. And my greatest fear is somebody wont be able to access it. It doesnt have to be like that. Reporter we spoke with Mercy Hospital president Carol Schneider who expects it to become an Emergency Care center. Is there not something that can be done to reverse this decision or to delay it for a couple years . We really want to take into consideration work were doing to place all our programs, place our patients and place our staff. And other Health Care Facilities in the chicago area. And well take the covid surge into consideration when we set a final date. Reporter while shes holding out hope that a new owner buys and restores mercy, etta davis is already asking her doctors to gather up her medical records as he tries to stay healthy. 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Im Rafael Warnock, and i approve this message because im staying focused on what washington could do for you. And, by the way, i love puppies. He loves puppies, everybody. Joining us now to break down which ads are actually breaking through, marcus fer rel a political strategist and former director of africanamerican outreach for Bernie Sanders, and dr. Christina greer, professor of Political Science at fordham university. Ill start with you, dr. Greer. I want to begin with the ad where hes hugging a puppy and cutting his pizza, which i thought was a terrible thing. But it brought to mind a strategy that africanamerican men in particular have often had to use when theyre running statewide, especially in southern states. I want to show you this other ad and get your thoughts about this and how it connects to warnocks on the other side. Hey, me again, michael steele. Soon your tv will be jammed with negative ads from the washington crowd. Grainy pictures and spooky music saying steele hates puppies. And worse, for the record, i love puppies, and we deserve better, real ideas for change, like a ban on gifts from lobbyists. Thats a start, because washington cant fix our problems until we fix theirs. Im michael steele, and this is my message. I dont know what it is about black men running for office and puppies, but it seems to be important. Whats the message here, dr. Greer . What is it that africanamerican candidates often have to do when theyre running statewide and how do we see it in these two ads . I mean, jason, they have to operate on multiple levels because theres no state in the union that has a majority africanamerican population, and we have a very small history. Zero black governors in the history of our country, only two black female senators elected. We had two black male governors elected, some were appointed, and a handful of black men elected senators. Theres a mental block for white voters to think of black people in an executive role. They dont necessarily see it in their personal lives and they cant necessarily see it in their politics. And so when we think about reverend warnock, he has to disarm himself in many ways. Hes not only running against someone whos white, hes running against a white woman in the south, a white woman who happens to be blonde and a similar age. And so when hes trying to help voters understand that he is not angry, hes not too brash, hes not filled with scandals, you know, many people have seen the ad where he throws the dog feces in the trash while hes walking his beigel and turns a corner, that ad and the ad you just showed operate on many levels to try to disarm white voters to let them know that hes a special kind of candidate, that wont come in and be brash. Theres no way that black candidates can be k behave in the manner of donald trump. If reverend warnock had three wives, theres no way he would be considered for the statewide stage at any capacity. The rules are completely different for black candidates. The Playing Field is not level, and so when you have these ads and these tropes of black male masculinity and aggressiveness, we see when people are running statewide, they have to actually run on the opposite end of that. Look at barack obama. No drama obama, and just everything is nice and smooth the entire time. Until we can get past that politics of respectability, we know that were nowhere near equal in the electoral space. So marcus, weve gone from talking about how to make black men as safe and accessible as possible, to what it is looking like in georgia. Youre on the ground. Are these ads being discussed . Are these ads really being shared around . Are people talking about them in georgia . Or is it something being talked about on the National Stage and people in the state are concerned about getting out the vote . No. Ground game will always, always, always, be Television Ads no matter what you do. The organizations putting in the work are going to be the reason that warnock and ossoff win. And im also a little bit afraid that we might be sacrificing black voters to appeal to moderate white voters. Let me tell you why. Theres an interesting stat. 18 to 24yearold africanamericans, one of the largest groups to increase their voter turnout when it comes down to the general election back in november. Now, that means that we need to engage them. Im not necessarily certain that dressing reverend warnock up in, you know, camping outfit with snoopy in his hands is going to increase the turnout of voters in the state. But what can possibly happen, and what we probably probably need to do is actually utilize the key things that have happened so far that warnock has done good and one thing in a main debate down here for the senate race warnock said one of the of all time when he said Kelly Loeffler lied on jesus. I dont know if you know about jesus but jesus is a pretty important character down here. That is true. That is true. If youre talking about expanding and exciting the base maybe sort of a fishermans jacket is not as effective but maybe instead of a beagle get a pit bug. Looking at ad history as usual, 440 million spent in a runoff election. Is there real Political Science that shows that ads will really change turnout . Are they actually going to affect turnout or as marcus said to blow over everybodys heads and the ads are ways for consultants to make money. I think the latter is probably more of the truth. Unless its sort of explosive ad and if you go to living room candidate. Org what we use in the courses quite a bit has historic ads theres a huge ad and we saw what happened to harold ford in tennessee with an attack ad saying he was at the playboy mansion and can change the course of a race but what we are seeing now is either solidifying the fact youre with reverend warnock or youre not. But i agree with marcus 110 . It is about the ground game. Those in new york that give money, across the country giving money, the d. C. Consultants, new york city consultants, they dont understand the nuances of georgia, the way that marcus and project south, you know, fair fight, new georgia project, the list goes on and on of the folks doing the work and if we think about targeting the younger black men the ad like we said doesnt go in that lane. Possibly an ad more for white democratic voters and really heres the thing. Young black people have real policy concerns. Right . Whether it is school debt or Small Business or ownership those are the issues that they want to hear about and how warnock articulates that mission to them is the lane to success and not necessarily major tv ads. Much as i love seeing the ads i have to admit and convinced hearing this from you taking the 440 million and gave it to organizers of ten ground you see numbers more significant than anything that an ad will get you. Marcus, christina, thank you for your evening. Thank you. Up next, the people we have lost to covid are more than a number. Each one is someones child, someones family, someones friend. Next, ill talk to someone whos made it a mission to tell their stories. Secret aluminum free helps eliminate odor instead of just masking it. And is made with 3x more odor fighters. With secret, keep it fresh every day. Secret. Man 1 vo proof of less joint pain woman 1 oc this is my body of proof. And clearer skin. Man 2 vo proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis. Woman 2 vo . 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It is honestly hard to comprehend. A special project, the faces of covid, is putting a face and a name and a heart to those we have lost. People like lauren of delaware, a grandmother to 11 and great grandmother to 8. Her family said she had sass for miles, raised six kids on bean soup and determination. A doctor of colorado, he continued to work as a doctor despite the family saying he shouldnt go into the hospital. He told his son, im a doctor. Thats my job. Otherwise whats the point . And 29yearold Stephanie Smith of texas, she died five days after what was supposed to have been her wedding day. Her fiancee said she was the coolest, funniest, best person he had ever met. Joining me is the author of the project. Alex, one, i wanted to say this is an amazing project. I have a great colleague here Nicole Wallace who talks about covid victims at the end of every one of her show. I dont think we can talk about these people enough. What was your inspiration for putting together this page. My heart goes in my throat. Even just seeing you share one hit me extra hard. You know, i think like a lot of folks at this beginning of this pandemic and the fear and inundated with the statistics to make sense of the data and knowing that there were humans behind the numbers so first and foremost it was really about lifting up the dignity and being willing to say and shout out loud the names of the people we are losing every day. We will hit 300,000 people this week. How do you even make sense of that if youre not saying their names . I think that was the first impetus. The second one really is about accountedability because i still believe nine months into this work that every single one of these stories is asking us a question about what we could have done, how our government could have led us better and also what we coif done in community to take better care of each other and asking this question every day through the stories. Yeah. To put this in context for many people, over five years in world war ii we lost this is worse than world war ii. How do you select which people you do stories of . Is it people submit them to you . You read them in the paper . And how you decide how to prioritize them. What backgrounds make you say, all right, this is one to definitety going on the page . It is evolving. It was about researching and get my hands on anything i could find and then that work was done at the local level by local reporters so lifting up the stories is where i started. This was me and a friend of mine whos chipping in and 200 followers. Now that its grown the vast majority of the stories we receive are from families that submit them directly and i feel a responsibility to get those up and shout those names as quickly as i can because i know the families waiting for it and im getting more than ever submissions, i wake up every morn and theres more from the day before and it is really, really heartbreaking. It is important that we realize that the history of this moment and of this pandemic is being written right now and its not being written on a blank piece of paper. It is written on a paper where the president of the United States is trying to actively rewrite it and erase things and distort things and im trying to lift up communities that we know are hit harder but may not show up in this sort of typical news reporting and thats the case in black and brown communities hit particularly hard by this pandemic so im always trying to do what i can to elevate the Community Stories as much as as well. I got to ask this because as far as im concerned youre an essential worker with what youre doing. How are you taking care of yourself . How do you keep from being just brought down by going over death and death and death every week . Do you have your own self care regimen while you take care and memorializing those taken by the virus . I wont pretend that 20 obituaries a day reading them to start to finish is easy but i will tell you and i dont mean this to be cliche but it pales in comparison to the trauma thats happening out there and happening to thousands and thousands of families every day and whats driven me in this second surge is the gratitude from the families because what they tell me is that because of the isolation that covid has brought upon them they have not been able to grieve the way they would like to grieve which would be in community, with people surrounding them who they have known their entire lives. So this experience of being able to shout that name out into the world and see perfect strangers across the world replying with kindness, you know, thats motivated me and allowed me to see a beautiful part of the country where theres goodness and kindness and to see that on social media which has earned the title as one of the most toxic places to look for compassion has genuinely surprised me. Yeah. You know, i encourage people. You can follow faces of covid and probably be more inspired. Alex goldstein, thank you so much for your time tonight. Thank you. Next, there will be a new Olympic Event in 2024. Breakdancing yes. You heard that right. Well dive into that next with someone that can break it down better than most. Leffler. May your holidays glow bright and all your dreams take flight. Visit your local mercedesbenz dealer today for exceptional lease and financing offers at the mercedesbenz winter event. Stop your cough from interrupting, with dq cough and congestion. 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I want to bring out my own Cardboard Box and put on some bandanas. First off, tell me about the competitive breaking league. How did you become the main coach for this league . Right. We started off just doing local competitions for the kids here in washington, d. C. Called the lab. And then, from there, it just kind of took off. I mean, it was a concept that we just started developing out of nowhere, really. More than anything was really to be able to explain to people what a battle was, and for parents to understand how their kid could actually win in a battle. And so, its grown throughout the years. And as you guys can see in the video, the kids are taking it to a whole other level. Look. Its dance. Its everything. Got it all. Those of us who know about break dancing, everything to the underground things ive been to in atlanta. We are excited about this, but there is a real concern that, if you put break dancing in the olympics, its going to get culturally appropriate, its going to get diluted. What can we do to make sure break dancing keeps its soul, keeps its authenticity, on a global stage . I think for us here, especially, in the United States, the birthplace of hiphop culture. Making sure people who are a part of the community are involved, at the olympic level. And not just spectators and competing but actually being a part of what happens there. I think, thats really a big thing. We have to remember this dance started out in the bronx. Its a gift from black culture to the world. And we want to make sure as it becomes an olympic sport, that we embrace its roots and traditions, and it doesnt get lost the original essence doesnt get lost as it becomes this massive, olympic sport. So, basketball was started in america and we dominated basketball for a very, very long time. Break dancing started to america. We should dominate. I i will be disappointed if we dont win. Right. But, who would you see as our biggest competitor in 2024 . My guess would be korea. But who do you think will be the biggest competitor for break dancing in 2024 . The skill of breaking has gone to a whole new level. It really could be anybody, at this point. But now, here, being the birthplace of hiphop culture for us is even more special, right . We want to make history. We dont just want to go to the olympics. We want to win the gold medal, the first gold medal, especially, in an historic moment for american culture. And bringing home the gold is our goal. So, it doesnt matter who we go up against. I think we have a very good chance of winning gold and thats what we plan to do in 2024 in paris. This is for everybody who is watching now. We see commercials all the time how to support olympic athletes, how to donate. If someone wants to help the team, help americas first break dancing team in 2024, how can viewers do that . Can they donate . Can they participate . What can we do to help in this process . Right. So, we do have an organization, usa breaking. You can go to usa breaking dot org. You can donate. Its a nonprofit organization. And, you know, part of the reason for us coming together as a community is to make sure that breaking is accessible for everybody, not just people that can afford a class or can afford to go to competitions. But really, make sure that anyone who wants to participate can do it, and have the dream and be able to go to the olympics. This is a new movement. Its a new era for breaking, as a sport. We are very excited to be a part of it. I know i have students at my school, who are ready, ready to train. Again, you guys are going to see things that youve never seen before. A mix of gymnastics. A mix of just all kinds of different art forms come together to music. And its going to be amazing. Were really looking forward to it. Our communitys in celebration, this week, because we just found out after waiting over a year, that, you know, breaking will actually be at the paris 2024 olympics, officially. So, were very excited about that. I am so thrilled for this. Founder of the lab breaking school, thank you so much for your time, and best of luck in 2024. Thank you. We cant go without mentioning two big, new shows joining the msnbc lineup. This morning, Tiffany Cross premiered the cross connection. And tomorrow at 10 00 a. M. , the sunday show with Jonathan Capehart. Again, you can join Tiffany Cross saturdays at 10 00 a. M. Eastern and Jonathan Capehart sundays at 10 00 a. M. Eastern, here, on msnbc. We will see you back here tomorrow night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern for another episode of the week with Joshua Johnson. I am jason johnson. Thanks for joining me. Have a great night. vo when subaru shares the love, good things happen. 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