Ta jus. The Coronavirus Crisis the one thing he tried to mute and down play and essentially abandon ship on for nine months has finally caught up to him. Infecting him and his wife. Making their residence, our white house, a coronavirus hot spot. 27 people connected to the white house now testing positive. As for trumps present Health Status and his illness. We dont know. The white house is saying it will not reveal the date of the his last negative test. Saying its a private medical history. The pandemic is now the central issue in the election. No way out for donald trump. He is stuck in the white house. Quarantining with a deadly virus and unable to do his favorite thing. Like superspreader rallies and superspreader white house pep rallies and superspreader fundraiser and he likes to spread. Instead like a want to be tiktok celebrity hes bored at home turning out videos. Hiding his covid19. With lots of make up. He dialled into fox business. For a one hour roid rant. That included the comedic. I im a perfect physical s s specimen. Im extremely young. Im lucky that way. Ha ha ha. An American Horror show. I dont think im contagious. Regenorren. I took it. I look at it as a cure. You dont really need drugs. I could have walked out there 24 hours after i walked in. I didnt have to go in. It would have gone away. When you catch it you get better and youre immune. This is not a man who sounds well. Seriously. He still has control of the Nuclear Codes. If this was the principal of your kids school, would you be sending your kids to school . Do you trust someone who sounds like that to get the pandemic under control and return the country to stability . If you do i may need to check your vitals. His utter failure to plan or consider to make a plan to control the virus. It got him and his wife. And now threatens his whole white house and Campaign Staff led to one of the most powerful moments in last nights Vice President department. The American People have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any president ial administration in the his ri of the khistory of the country. Its lethal. Its airborne. It will effect young people. And it will be contracted because its airborne. And they knew what was happening and they didnt tell you. Trumps come back again on fox business revealed once again his nasty little problem. With women. And particularly women of color who dare challenge him. She was terrible. She was i dont think you can get worse. Totally unlikable. Shes a communist. Shes not a socialist. And this monster that was on stage with mike pence who destroyed her last night. But this monster, she says no, no, there wont be fracking. Everything is a lie. Joining me now. A former Obama White HouseHealth Policy adviser. And ben roads a former Deputy National security adviser to president obama. Ill start with you, doctor, donald trump doesnt seem like a well man. Im blunt about it. He doesnt seem in control of his emotion. Hes ranting and raving. Just loony rants and raves for an hour on fox news. Is this steroids . Is this psychological issue . What do you see and hear when you hear that . She wanted to leave her body. Joy, im not going to make a diagnosis without examining the patient. Without a full history available to me. The white house has made sure that we dont have the full medical information. And its hard to say. We have had a president in donald trump who has sounded a little unhinged before. I would say. And it is i think your point at the start its very worrisome. Given the fact we know covid19 can effect cognition. Steroids can effect cognition. And its a worrisome situation for the country. As many people said a National Security threat. We need to take that seriously. Can i just ask a question if an Airline Pilot came in acting like that, would you let him fly . I was there. I could see him and test the mental status. Part of what youre asking me to do. I cant test anything. I hear you. Im sorry. Im not trying to be evasive. Good medical judgment. Dont make a diagnosis on the basis of a video. You may remember a senator did that to no avail. You dont do that. I think we know enough about steroids and covid19, that we have to be prudent as a country. There are 330 million americans. Many hot spots around the globe. And he can tell you about the serious threats to the country. Even if joe biden wins we have three and a half months of this. Can we play this. Theres a former director of the office involved in creating a coronavirus vaccine. He resigned this week. Hes filed a updated whistleblower complaint. He spoke about the political pressure. This is the Health Officials are receiving. Heres the sound. I see it i hear it every day. There are a number of scientists in the cdc and the fda and at the nih who are afraid ov losing their job. Because of they want to speak the truth. Theyre so afraid of losing their jobs. So afraid of being kicked out of their career and unable to support their family. This fear of retaliation and retribution is prevailing over our best scientific experts in every Public Health agency today. At this point, you have this gentleman saying that there are people terrified they are afraid of this president. Essentially. The people who are involved in trying to develop a vaccine. And protect the country. You have the speaker of the house now talking 25th amendment. She suggested trump may not be thinking clear will because of the drugs hes taking. Saying hes in an altered state. I dont know how else to answer for that behavior. You have worked in a president ial administration. Do you feel comfortable with the fact donald trump has the Nuclear Codes and behaving the way we saw him behave or heard him behave for a full hour of ranting and raving on fox business this morning . No, joy, i dont at all. Lets be clear the the office of the presidency is the most powerful office in the world. And vested with enormous responsibility to deal with all mann manner of crisis around the world. A war or could be a pandemic. The important point from the clip is whats been clear to the American People from the beginning of this out break, this is a president who has refused to listen to experts, refused to listen to science. And in a way that led to over 200,000 death and his white house being infected with more cases than the entire country of vietnam. And when ebola happened, president obama didnt turn to people like me. He turned to doctors. He turned to scientists. And dr. Fauci. To form late a response. And mobilize resources of the government to deal with it. Over seas and in the country. This president is completely incapable of doing that. He was incapable of doing that before he got sick and now its more concerning because if his mental state. And the ultimate judgment before we get in a discussion of 25th amendment is before voters. Where you can vote early. And a few weeks. And the reality is the president of the United States since the beginning of the out break has not only not done whats necessary. Hes been an active danger to the health of the American People. A spreader of disinformation and now a spreader of covid19 itself. I think that highlights the stakes that is in front of the country. Can i say we now know yeah sure. Every time president acts like a doctor, he acted like a doctor with hydroxychloroquine. With plaza. Hes acting like a doctor with with how infective he is. Hes wrong. He is just plain wrong. And hes got to stop thinking he knows better than scientists. And it just it galled me Vice President pence last night on the debate said were going to the listen to the scientists. Referring to climate change. As if that is the standard. Their standard is not to listen to scientists. And is it we now know through reporting that his actual doctors when he visited the hospital for the mysterious visit that he turned up at walter reed in 2018, we dont know why. Had to sign ndas. Will the me listen to one bite of him. Here he is. These people should be indicted. This is the greatest political crime in the history of the country. That includes obama and biden. To be honest bill barr will go down either as the greatest attorney general in the cnt em. And in the state department. Pompeo has not been able to get them out. Im not happy about him for that reason. Address christopher wray. Will you replace him . I dont want to say that. Hes been disappointing. He talks about the voting thing. He doesnt see the ballots as a problem. Last question to you. You have ndas. Which may excuse the weird behavior of the weidoctors. You have him ranting and raving about arresting president o. Isnt that going to happen. Bill barr isnt going to do that. Its disturbing for the American People to hear the president of the United States acting like this. Its loony tunes. Last word. Look, this is the logical end point. What we have been through for four years. This is who donald trump is. Here we are, in a massive pandemic crisis, economic crisis. And hes ranting and raving about a Conspiracy Theory that nobody understands. You have to go to the darkest corner of the internet to understand what hes referring to. Hes doing that while americans are at risk. And i can tell you from being there, the office of the presidency theres responsibility on that person. Theres life and death decisions that run through the office. The people he chooses to listen to. The people he chooses to empower. The way he chooses to spend his time. And were not even commenting hes spending time calling a fox business anchor for an hour on the phone during a pandemic. If any other president did this our heads would fall of or bodies. We have been conditioned to think its normal. Hes turned the presidency into a bad reality show. Its too dangerous to continue. He hasnt mentioned his wife and campaign manager. Thank you both. The last few minutes his physician released the latest update on the president s progress. Writing trump finished his course of therapy. He can return safely to public engagements saturday. Do we have a second to ask him if he believes that . Meanwhile. Im here. Very quickly. What do you make of that . I think what he means is hasnt gotten remdesivir. He should be on the ten day course. Thats the standard course. Im not 100 sure what to make of it. Saturday would mark the tenth day of from supposedly when he was having symptoms. Again we dont know what he was positive. Before. So i think were not getting the full picture. Which is typical. And no independent ability to assess this with the most powerful man in the world facing a very dangerous worldwide situation. Its very scary. Theyre not honest. You cant believe anything they say. Thank you so much. Meanwhile, donald trump history of disparaging u. S. Veterans came into focus after the atlantic reported he called americas war dead losers and suckers. And mccain and gold star families and widow of a sergeant. He blames gold star faemilies wo attended an event with infecting him with coronavirus. I met with gold star families. I cant cancel that. I cant say back up. They want to hug me and kiss me. And they do. And frankly, im not telling them to back up. Im not doing it. In a statement the greatest Generation Foundation of Veterans Charity organization. In organizing the event said all attendees tested negative and all are doing well and exhibiting no symptoms of covid19. Joining me now. I have ruined the clock on the show this morning. Going over. Ill let you respond, senator. The real danger is donald trump the not gold star families. Of course he would blame them for spreading a virus. The only person dangerous is donald trump. Imagine a foreign adverse ri deciding to infiltrate an the white house sending in an agent to spread the virus around and infect the commander in chief, military and key adviser and infect major members of congress. And members of the senate. And then get the joint chief of staff and staff infected. And then force them to be quarantined for 14 days. Imagine if a foreign adversary did that. It would be an act of war. You know who the agent is . Donald trump. Hes the one going around infecting everyone and blaming everyone else. The man is not only incompetent and negligent. Hes put the country in real National Security danger. Because of his utter lack of respect for science and the fact that he himself is the one thats gotten everybody sick. It is an excellent point. Hes so open anyway to foreign persuasion. And isnt in charge of anything other than calling into the news media. The idea that he would try to blame these gold star families. Who have already had loss. Thats why they are gold star families. That they would want to be in their presence is remarkable the way hes talked about war heros and on and on. Your reaction on saying its their fault. He risked infecting them. Not the other way around. Its utter disgust. Im not surprised. He blamed two days earlier servicemen and women and Police Officers that he met with prior to the rose garden superspreader event he created. He is blaming everyone else. Saying the article wasnt accurate. He didnt call them suckers and losers. Within a few weeks hes turned it around and now hes blaming gold star families for spreading a deadly pandemic. This is what hes doing. He let down the military and military families. For him to continue to insult gold star families is shameful is not the word. Hes not fit to be commander in chief for another minute. I hear you. Senator, thank you so much. Really appreciate you coming on. Up next on the the reidout, the depraved plot to kidnap michigans governor. After trump attacked whitmer saying liberate michigan. And rages about Kamala Harris debate performance after her epic take down. If you have a preexisting condition. Heart disease. Diabetes, breast cancer. Theyre coming for you. The the reidout continues after this. Woo go go go go on a real vacation. Visit go rving. Com or your nearest rv dealer. Find a stock basedtech. On your interests or whats trending. Get realtime insights in your customized view of the market. Its smarter Trading Technology for smarter trading decisions. Fidelity. burk customer deepsomething like that. burke well, heres Something Else with your farmers policy perk, new car replacement, you can get a new one. customer that is Something Else. burke get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum whatever road you take, make sure your tires are ready to get you there safely. 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Months after armed protesters converge on the michigan capitol to protest the coronavirus lock down order and after trump called for the liberation of michigan. Whatever that was supposed to mean. And called protesters very good people. 13 men have been arrested for plotting to kidnap democratic governor gretchen whitmer. Six charged by the fbi. One involved in a Second Amendment rally at the Michigan State house in june. According to Court Documents the plan is kidnap the governor and try her for treason in their own little made up courtroom. Additional seven men linked to the so called watchmen militia. And charged by the michigan defense attorney general. For planning to kidnap and planning to start a civil war. True story. Governor whitmer called out trump accusing him of encouraging this extremism. Head of state spent seven months denying science. Ignoring his health experts. Stoking distrust. And giving comfort to those who spread hatred and division. When leaders speak, their words matter. They carry weight. Im joined by former assistant director for counter entejsz intelligence at the fbi. Can i play for you a little bit of what attorney general the Michigan Attorney general had to say. Calling this the tip of the iceberg. This maybe the tip of the iceberg. I dont feel as though our work or the federal authority is complete and i think theres still dangerous individuals that are out there. And point of great concern. Its so important that the elected leaders tone down the rhetoric and make it clear once and for all. And the fact they do not condone and actually condemn these individuals and this type of conduct and this type of organization. Frank, according to to the testimony of neighbors from the watchmen suggest they had a disturbing relationship with the far right military movement. A dozen active military groups. With that as a setting. What trump said liberate michigan. And extremists saw a call to arms. This was nba news report in april. What is the relationship in your view between Donald Trumps coddling of White Nationalism and saying things like liberate michigan and what were seeing today . If you think theres a connection. The lets connect the dots. The commander in chief is a radicalizer in chief. The Walmart Shooting and the language he was using in communications and his documents online. He kept referring to the brown invader and other language repeated frequently by the president. And that language toward immigrants is echoed throughout various social media platforms. Of extremist and violent groups. Fast forward. The debate night with joe biden. The president said about the proud boys, stand back and standby. And lets look how that was received among the groups. Who saw it as a call to arms. Call to violence. They were ready. They were energized by it. Now lets look at the michigan arrest. And the take down of the militia and affiliated members who were prepared for extreme violence to include blowing up police departments. Assemble ieds. Kidnapping a governor and when did that plot start . According to the charging documents, soon after that tweet. Liberate michigan. I say the dots are there. Whether the president intends it or not is almost incidental. What we need to study is how his language, his rhetoric and refusal to denounce clearly as being received by violent individuals. And Law Enforcement is preparing for more of this. More of it leading up to the election. And more of it between the election and inauguration day. This is donald trump this morning. Its not what happened today changed him in any way. Here he is. Talking about the governor. Shes the lock up queen. What shes done to that place is horrible. Shes locked it up. She has people li living in prison. If this was a Counter Intelligence investigation, and say there was a small town mayor who was repeatedly stoking and egging on violent groups in their community. Would they be a part of the investigation . Would the rhetoric be part of the investigation. Could he be aiding and abetting domestic terrorism . If this were virtually anyone else, their name would be added to the subject line of the investigation. That would be looked at for instigating violence. Aiding and abetting. Conspireing. There would be a serious sit down at the very least and they would be shown the dots that are connected between their rhetoric, their encouragement and actual acting out violencely. This is the president of the United States. We have an attorney general who is keeps pointing to the far left and trying to draw some kind of equivalency between extreme organized violence onlt right and violent protests on the left. That isnt there. We have a Vice President who in his debate with Kamala Harris when asked what the role would be if the president refused to step down after a certified election refused to answer the question. That gets received by violent extremists as a wink and nod. Its okay to act out. If we dont get our way in the election. I have to say thank god for christopher wray. He stood up really strong to the weird boss. Youre great. Thank you. We appreciate your time. Up next, trump backs out of the next debate. Is it because hes afraid or too sick to take on uncle joe. Knowing who we are is hard. Its hard. Eliminate who you are not first, and youre going to find yourself where you need to be. The race is never over. The journey has no port. The adventure never ends, because we are always on the way. It was built on bluecollar, hard work. Hard work means every day. Getting it right. Its so iconic, you can just sit it on a shelf if its missing, you know it. 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Now joined for tonights discussion by a net work of the electronic facility. Which permits each candidate to see and hear the other. Good evening, senator. Good evening. Good evening to you Vice President nixon. Good evening. Dont you love old video. Years later an unraveling nixon would conduct booze filled calls on the white house line. Ranting about perceived enemies. Flash forward 60 years and a similarly unpopular president. Possibly jacked up on steroids is ranting about perceived enemies. This morning after the commission for president ial debates announced next weeks debate will be a virtual town hall. Because one of the debaters has a highly contagious coronavirus. Trump freaked out and said he aint participating. The commission on president ial debates announcing this morning the second president ial debate will be virtual. Are you not participating . I wont waste my time in a virtual debate. You sit behind a computer and debate. Its ridiculous. And cut you off when ever they want. Trump aids believe its a mistake to seed ground to joe biden. You think . Campaign manager who also has covid19 at the sa covid19 attempted a clean up. Pushing the debate back. Saying it should happen october 22. And shifted back a week to october 29. The Biden Campaign said no dice. We set the dates. Im sticking to the dates. Ill show and be there. If he shows up, fine. If he doesnt, fine. For more im joined by republican strategic and seen your adviser on the lincoln project. Trolling trump as they will do. You all do a lot. Saying hes scared to debate. Is this fear or just was it the roids . Maybe a combination. Who knows. We dont know what medication hes on. We dont know what his medical status is. I wouldnt go on and debate stage anywhere near the president. Especially since we dont know when he came down with it. Hes not being honest. Thats not a surprise. These doctors are not honest and sharing the proper information with the public. I have to say, im so happy you showed that footage from 1960. Thats kind of where Donald Trumps mentality is. He should relate and embrace his inner 50s and 60s. Maybe if they make it black and white hell show up. Memories. Let me read the washington post. The situation is getting worse and worse. This is like access hollywood. Were seeing terrible poll numbers. We didnt think it would be this bad. Everyone is wondering where the bottom is. And what they need to do. This is the Republican Party freaking out very belatedly. That the whole party is unraveling under trump. I didnt listen to Lindsey Graham saying if they nominate trump it will destroy the party. Mitch mcconnell is saying maybe i dont go near him. I can tell you i havent been to the white house since august 6. And i personally didnt feel they were approaching the protection from this illness in the same way i thought was appropriate for the senate. First of all, whatever, mitch. Whatever. You were right up there in the white house covid19 party. Because youre getting judges. What is happening to your party . They hitched themselves up to trump so closely. Now do they think they can back away 26 days before election . They cant. They maybe delusional and think they can. Ask graham how its working out for him. He wanted to avoid a primary. Hes in a dead heat race. The fact South Carolina is a toss up state . What universe is that happening in other than trump destruction. And that is what hes doing. Destroying everyone, himself and taking everyone down with him. And you know what, he doesnt care. He never cared. And thats what i dont understand about the senators. They just followed him lock step. And they deserve to be beaten in november. I hope they are. You have the reporting the department of justice is like lets rig the election and saying prosecutors violate rights to vote. Mike lee saying were not a democracy. Thats dangerous. The arguments are getting more absurd as trump gets more absurd. Do you see a bottom . Are people sending resumes out . I dont understand what the end game is for any of the people. Do they think theyll get jobs at the Trump Organization . They have 15 staffers. They actually have nowhere to go. Thats the problem. They locked in with trump and got to stay him until the end. Maybe hope he has a tv net work or something they can bring him in. He doesnt have any money. He wont have a tv net work. Hes broke. He likes spending other peoples money. Hell try and do that. Not sure who will give him a loan. Whos going to give him a loan . Theres no place for republicans to go to right now. And mike lee, really . Were not a democracy . Stop. Just they all need to stop and realize they have lost. Just walk away and dont dig deeper. There isnt a bottom with donald trump. Thats what we have known. When you think he cannot go lower, he does. And he takes everyone down with him. Your one of the wise ones who got off the ship before it was the titanic. I appreciate you. Stop if you heard this before. Vice president his opponent and a fly walk into a debate stage. Okay. Theres no punch line. Social media went crazy. Look at the most memorable make that unforgettable moments from last nights debate. Needs help customizing their Car Insurance with liberty mutual, so they only pay for what they need. False alarm. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Struggling to clean tough messes with wipes . Try mr. Clean magic eraser sheets. Just wet, squeeze and erase icky messes in microwaves and on stovetops for an amazing clean, get the power of mr. Clean magic eraser in disposable sheets. Where weve got the best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, gas ranges and grills. And if youre looking for. Where weve got the best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, life doesnt stop for a cold. [man] honey. 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The tiny winged intruder who an hour into the debate nested atop pences head. Lingers motionless. Long enough to break the internet. The late night host got in on the fun. The big star of the debate tonight. A fly. That landed quite symbolically on the Vice President s head. I assume the fly thought he was a light bulk and was attracted to the. It stayed on his head for two minutes and three seconds. That fly is now his running mate. For many, the wee little fellow evoked the most memorable moment in politics on the fly. You see what i did there . From way back in 2009. Get out of here. Thats the most persistent fly i have ever seen. Nice. That was impressive. I got the sucker. Of course, mike pences fly was lucky enough to survive the night. It has its own twitter account now. I follow it. And tons of memes. The debate flys moment swarming pop culture was not lost on the Biden Campaign. He tweeted out a picture of himself with a fly swatter and joked about it in a joint appearance today with senator Kamala Harris. In arizona. I watched how last night watching the debate. Couldnt take my eye off the fly. Last nights debate was actually quite substantiative. Well get to the important points after the break. On your interests or whats trending. Get realtime insights in your customized view of the market. Its smarter Trading Technology for smarter trading decisions. Fidelity. He calls on the nations antop health experts. S, working together, for all americans, is what joe does. When writing his healthcare plan, joe biden worked with both doctors and patients to make healthcare affordable by lowering premiums, reducing drug costs, and protecting people with preexisting conditions. 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Switch and save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. With the carrier rated 1 in customer satisfaction. Call, click, or visit your local xfinity store today. But despite the rising pain and anguish made worse during the pandemic, Insurance Companies still refused to cover Mental Health and addiction treatment. Until now. Senator scott wiener went to work taking them on. Passing a law requiring the Insurance Industry to cover Mental Health and addiction treatment. Now more than ever, californians need Mental Health coverage. I wont let up until the stigma of Mental Health and addiction is finally over. If you have a preexisting condition, heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, theyre coming for you. If you love someone who has a preexisting condition thank you, senator harris. Theyre coming for you. If youre under 26 under your parents coverage, theyre coming for you. A huntering reminder of whats at stake from Kamala Harris in last nights president ial debate. That was more civil than fit pr mike pence spent most of the night deflecting and dodging questions when he wasnt interrupting or refusing to stop talking. The debate revealed sharp distinctions between the two candidates on things like the supreme court, health care, and the coronavirus as senator harris took the case against the administrations response to the American People. The president wanted people to remain calm. Lets talk about susan, this is important. Susan, i have to mr. Vice president , im speaking. Im speaking. You have 15 more seconds and then well give you the Vice President i want to ask the American People, how calm were you when you were panicked when you were worried about where you were going to get your next roll of toilet paper . Thank you. How many calm were you when your children couldnt see your parents because you were afraid they could kill them . Im joined now by Karine Jeanpierre and Senior Adviser to the Biden Campaign. Kamala, i think that your candidate did very well last night but did get through a solid prosecution of the Trump Administrations handling of the virus, of the coronavirus. In the minds of the Biden Campaign, is the pandemic the whole argument, the Closing Argument . Is that the Central Point right now . I think the pandemic and the mismanagement by this administration is a crises that everyone is feeling right now. Its multiple crises if you think about it, joy. It is people who are dying, more than 210,000 americans, grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers, fathers, people who we love dealer, our neighbors and friends who have died from this virus. And also you have an economic crisis. Those are the capitalizrises th American People are trying to deal with. We havent talked about the last four years of what this administration has done. What pence refused to do is basically what his boss refused to do, he refused to answer questions. Just think about it, joy. Right now theyre in the courts. The Trump Administration is in the courts trying to take away aca. Theyve never put forth a plan of how theyre going to replace it. Republicans had ten years to do this. They havent put forth anything. Just like the senator said, theyre trying to take away protections for preexisting conditions. If your kid is on your plan, they want to take that away. They want to make being a woman a preexisting condition. And then they are lying about it, joy. The Trump Administration is lying, and more than 7 Million People are infected with coronavirus. Thats a big number. Thats a serious thing. And they want to take away health care right now. Yeah. I mean, we got three kids that are over 18 but also one of them is going to hit that 26. This is definitely something people are going to relate to. We did invite someone from the Trump Campaign on as well. I should note that. But they did not provide anyone, so were giving the floor to Karine Jeanpierre. The other issue last night was criminal Justice Reform. Thats an important issue for a lot of voters. Lets listen to a little bit of that exchange and what Kamala Harris had to say. It brings me to, you know, the eight minutes and 46 seconds that america witnessed, during which an american man was tortured and killed under the knee of an armed, Uniformed Police officer. And people around our country of every race, of oveevery age, of every gender, perfect strangers to each other, marched shoulder to shoulder, arm in arm, fighting for us to finally achieve that ideal of equal justice under law. This was after she answered that she does not believe justice was done for breonna taylor. Mike pence didnt exactly answer the question. He said that he trusted the grand jury. What are the specifics of criminal Justice Reform that the Biden Harris Campaign is selling to voters, saying this is what well do . Senator was involved in criminal justice as a senator, but what are the specifics . Can i say this, joy . Our community is reeling in anguish and pain right now because systemic racism is permeating in our society. And you have donald trump, who cannot call out racism, and what he does is he fans the flames. As i was saying, we have multiple crises right now. We have people who have died from coronavirus when you hear i think were losing when you hear the name george floyd and breonna taylor, it reminds you how it reminds you how brutal violence, how black people are subject to that. And so what we need right now is someone like joe biden, like Kamala Harris as part of the solution, not part of the problem that we see from donald trump over and over again. I dont know if you can hear me, joy. I can now. You zipped out for a minute, but we got you back. What would biden and harris do in office to change that . Im sorry, joy, i cant hear you. Oh, no. Were losing audio. Can you hear me now . The magic of television. Can you hear me, karine . Oh, television isnt giving us any magic right now. Black girl magic is being interrupted. Lets try one more time. Karine, can you hear me . Darn. Okay, were not able to get Karine Jeanpierre back. We had an issue with the satellite. That is unfortunate. But i think it was important that that debate happened last night. What were you saying to me . I was listening in my ear. I dont think were going to be able to get Karine Jeanpierre back. Thats unfortunate. Oh, well, we tried. Karine, thank you very much. That is tonights reidout. Theres still more coming up. Well cover more about the threats to the governor of michigan. Theres a lot more to cover on that as well as, obviously, Donald Trumps very strange day, his strange morning, and the strange things that he said. Stick with msnbc for the rest of the night because theres a lot of show left, starting with my friend, chris hayes. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in. Can you tell us anything else about your condition . Im essentially very clean. Contact tracing the infected president. I met with both families. I didnt want to cancel that. They want to hug and kiss me, and they do. Tonight as the trump cluster grows, the president pulls out of the next debate and Biden Deputy Campaign manager Kate Bedingfield is here to respond. The rightextremist plot to kidnap the governor of michigan. Tonight the governors responding