Hes not hinting about it. Hes not vaguely creating the impression he might want to do that. Hes just flat out telling people go try to vote for me twice. Wednesday. Until relatively recently we were at least kind of a normal country, you know . Ups and downs for sure. Things you can take issues with easier here and there. At least we knew how long the number line was. At least we knew zero to 100. Now with the president behaves like this, the system kind of breaks. For example, open your heart, soften your heart a little bit and look at the lead on this tonight from our colleagues at nbcnews. Com. There is nothing wrong with lead whatsoever. The fact that this has to be written. It is just not built with this level of weird. I mean it is like you invited friends over for a barbecue and you are like lift up a carpet of the room all of the nouns work until you explain what you are doing and it does not compute. This is what i mean. Here is this lead from nbcnews. Com. President trump suggested that people in North Carolina should vote twice once by mail and one inperson. Escalating attempts to cast doubt on the results. The president said let them send it in and let them go vote, if the system is good they wont be able to vote. If it is tabulated theyll be able to vote. The president said this one and asked about the mailing Voting System in North Carolina. He concluded thats the way it is, thats what they should do. It is illegal to vote more than once in an election. Yes, it is illegal to do what the president just told you to do. It is illegal to get people to do that. This is a weird day. Today is also the day that the Trump Administration, mike pompeo, announced the United States government will sanction the International Criminal court. Not the United States will sanction the International Court. People sentenced. This is not sanctions on International Criminals. This is the u. S. Government putting sanctions on the people who work at that court. Putting sanctions on people who work at the International Court. People who prosecutes more war crimes and stuff. Nazis and stuff. The u. S. Will sanction the people who prosecutes criminals. Those people will now be sanctioned by the u. S. Government as if they are terrorists or cartel leaders or themselves criminals of any kind, all because they work at the International Court and the Trump Administration is raging waging war on all International Institutions which we used to support. It is just bizarre almost noncomputable behavior by our government. That is the order of the day. The president is continuing as you know conducting his campaign on the grounds that america is burning. American cities are all on fire and burning down and theyre terrible house scapes. Which is not what life it like. Youd never know that from ads. Beyond whether or not this scare campaign of u. S. Cities if it is true. It is an awkward message, right . Even though the president right now is donald trump while he says all this stuff and this terrible stuff is happening around the country, the president s Reelection Campaign is based fundamentally more than anything else on this premise that this horrible urban hell scape that we are living in now, is the future once joe biden is elected president. If this exists now why is it happening while youre president . It does not compute. This is not logical stuff. The president s campaign right now, there are fundamental messages. See how terrible things are. Keep me in charge so this wont happen. It is irrational at the highest of american politics. It also filters down to local news in weird ways. The Portland Press herald posted this online. Somebody tweeting, can you help me understand the portland riots . Why have you not stopped the violence . The respond, well, we are a newspaper in maine. Is the main reason. Portland maine is more than 3,000 miles away from there. You know i am sure is their fault. This is the front page of the Portland Press herald today where you can see our National Weirdness coming home to national news. Local news. Defiant pastor tied to outbreaks divides local community. This is a fascinating story. Until recently the little town in maine. They have been basically untouched by the coronavirus, the boston globe reports, the whole county has been about 150 cases over the two counties over the course six months which is not a lot. There has been no cases at all. That area around millinocket, maine, has the highest of covid19 cases due to a wedding. It was august 8. Reportedly no or very few masks. No social distancing. There were a total of 62 people at the wedding. As of now, at least 30 of the 62 people at that wedding tested positive. 30 of the 62, ages 4 to 78. Of course it did not stay confined to the Wedding Guests. The center of Disease Control identified 143 cases that traced back to one wedding. Thats the worst outbreak in may. One young person got infected at that wedding infected their parents and that parent infected a child at a senior center. Because of the wed ing, they now got multiple staffs and patients infected. Another Wedding Guest was at the employee at the york county jail. As of yesterday that led to, we learned that led to 19 staff and 35 prisoners being infected at york county jail. The members of the jail are up to 68 cases now among employees and prisoners and again traced back to that wedding. Where the jail employee attended and brought it to work. At the venue itself, multiple Staff Members tested positive, and at the local schools, students becoming infected and a teacher working at the wedding reception and turned up onsite to prepare for the school year and there are multiple infections at the school and among both staff and students so that means theyll not be opening schools at millinocket when they thought they would. The superintendent is among those infected. An elderly couple who lives in an isolated wood cabin at lake cedar, they have been isolated at that cabin for months throughout the course of the epidemic because they are older and they knew they were high risk and they knew they were living in a lowrisk place. With almost no cases. Well, their community used to be a lowrisk place. Once the virus spread took hold after the superspreader event in town. She was 83 years old and died at the local hospital. Hes a world war ii veteran. He was hospitalized two days after his wife died. The other place that one wedding resulted in an outbreak is a town called sandford, maine, it is not in the same area. The guy that officiated came from sandford, maine. The hoe cal the hoe ca the local pastor flew himself in to conduct the wedding. And flew home. The maine cdc announced on saturday theyre investigating a new outbreak at that pastor church. The town also now has an outbreak at the local fire department. You see how these things go. It goes from 0 to 60 really fast. It is super contagious Infectious Disease. That kills some people it infects. It is interesting of what happened here. The guy that officiates the wedding, he officiates the wedding and they dont take any precautions. Or not enough. One person is dead. A world war ii vet is hospitalized. Theres an old folk home with an out break because of this. There is a school in maine that has a new outbreak because of this and the pastor at church. All derives from this one congregate event where people got together and did not wear masks. It turns into the biggest event that created the biggest outbreak in maine. The pastor and all of maine, and everybody learned about this and Public Health authority tracking all this down. And being transparent. This pastor officiated the service where all these outbreaks came from and infections came from and all these institutions happen to be shutdown and one person is dead already. This pastor learned that his home church where he came home to is being investigated at an outbreak because they got multiple cases there, too. He learned that on saturday. What did he do . He holds multiple inperson services in church because he does not believe any of this is happening. It matters. Where people get their information. It matters what people are hearing who they accept as leaders. You can see the headline here from the boston globe. I want the people of god enjoy libertys pastor at maine superspreader wedding gives defiant indoor sermon. Just one day after Maine Centers for Disease Control announced it was investigating a coronavirus out break among his church. Todd bell, the pastor portrayed the church he leads as being at the frontline. Of a culture war. I will tell you what the world wants all churches to do bell said during sundays services. They want us to shutdown and go home and let people get use to that long enough until we can stop the advancing of the gospel. The comments echoed political talking points that others used to decry coronavirus restriction. At rally in New Hampshire on friday night. For example. The president lamented that democrats dont believe lawabiding citizens can go to church anymore. You cant go to church anymore. He says that on friday. The pastor found out he got a break out at his church and he held a service on sunday. The august 7 wedding has been linked to 123 cases in maine. The wedding linked to 143 coronavirus in maine and more since then, about 20 more cases. It is the largest outbreak in the state of maine. It led to a death of an 83yearold woman who did not attend the event. Bell sermon was unrepented. Saying he hoped media would watch the service on sunday morning. On sunday morning, a 15people in choir maskless. And singing. He just taken apart of an event of the largest outbreak they had in the state. Who cares . Screw the democrats. He told his congregation that masks are pointless. Theyre like trying to keep a mosquito out of a chainlinked fence. He wont take any vaccines if one is developed because if any such vaccine would be abortion. If you are taking the vaccine you are supporting abortion which is so far crazy talk of where we are accustom now of where ever you find in our life. Except hes a poipt man in the largest out break in his state. One dead and a jail and a school and all the rest. But, you know what if the people you accept as leaders say these stuff, it matters. It manifests in the world and it turns out it matters. What gets said about this stuff. If they dont believe lawabiding citizens, they go to a church gathering, you cant go to church anymore. Do you know how many church closes in this country because of the democrats . When the president says stuff like this. Less than 48 hours later, the guy with an active break in church decides hes going to hold indoor event even after the event that led to 140 plus to people. It matters in the real world. Its a matter of life and death. They close our churches. People of faith are under attack. Democrats wont let you go to church. They dont believe law biding citizens. Can go to church. Citizens. If you publicly insist that trying to not spread covid is a democratic partys plot. To ban church and kill god. The result is you are going to have right wing pastors happy ly spreading covid where ever acan because thats what they heard they should do in order to be a hero. Any measure of slowing covid is a democratic plot. It is antireligion, dont fall for it. You see this manifestation on the local front pages. This is the biggest in maine. You will see this all over. And while thats happening and why we see the power at the nonsense at the top manifests deaths on the ground. What has emerged is it may no longer be the policy of the u. S. Government to try to stop the spread of covid. We like the fact that there is a lot of cases in lowrisk populations because thats exactly how we are going to get herd immunity. Population immunity. These people getting the infection, it is not a problem. In fact, as we said, months ago when you isolate everyone including the healthy people, you are prolonging the problem because you are preventing population immunity. Lowrisk groups getting the infection is not a problem. Its a positive. It is a positive. The more people getting infected, the better. Thats a man named scott atlas. Not an Infectious Disease doctor. Not an epidemiologist. His special is mris of the spine and brain. Nothing to do with coronavirus as all. He has no Public Health experience and no epidemiology experience. Hes the new guy thats running the u. S. Coronavirus strategy at the white house. The president liked him doing these hits on fox news where he proposes these ideas where get everybody infected, thatll be better. With that, the expertise being a ra radiologist. Going on fox saying these things. Hes brought to the white house and sidelined the other actual qualified experts who were apart of the Coronavirus Task force. Scott atlas has been taking over. And and has the president s ear. The white house and the president has been talking about covid in ways that are new and that lined up with the state of view of this guy who was kind of a prank on this subject. It did not get much attention when he said it. There was so much else going on. When the president said this that i am about to show you at the rnc last week. He was apparently describing a new strategy for coronavirus. This is not the way that he described it before. It was the middle of his rnc speech. This is not what him and the white house used to say of how we are tackling this epidemic in the country. We are sheltering those at highest risk and allowing lowrisk americans to safely return to work and school. We want to see so many of those great states be open by democrats. We want them to be open. They have to be open. They have to get back to work. They have to be open and get back to work. Shelter high risk and allow low risk to get back to work and school. Well protect the vulnerable. Open Everything Else back up. Of that but, open Everything Else backup so that everybody of lowrisk gets infected. This is the idea that dr. Atlas has been saying on fox news. For months before he was brought to the white house. To turn this into policy. If the president really wants to pursue that some sort of efforts to protect those most at risk but most people encouraged to be infected. If we are pursuing that which is what this doctor is advocating and what the president tells what you say he wants. It is good for him to start to let us know this is how he wants us to change pack here. We should brace ourselves for what it means and this is what hes going to do. As the Washington Post points out this week, nobody knows if immunity even works. The way the herd immunity theorists believe for covid19. Nobody knows how much immunity is conveyed by being infected with covid or how much of the population have to be infected to take whole. Hold. If you take them at their words and take them at a conservative estimate 65 of the population to be infected. For this idea to work. In the United States the population of 238 million people. If you reach the 65 threshold for immunity, if you let 65 of the country get infected. Conservative speaking, 1 fatality rate, that means you would have 2. 13 million americans dead. Thats what they are aiming for. Those are the most conservative estimates. That would be the good news results. 2. 13 million dead. Thats only if we have a 1 fatality rate. Could be millions more dead if the fatality rate is higher than that of 2 or 3 . Theyre aiming that at 2 million dead americans because of fox news radiologist said so. He out maneuvered experpts at the white house and he made this the u. S. Policy. This is reportedly why the cdc just recommended in the past week all of a sudden fewer americans should get tested. This doctor and the fact that he got the president s ear is reportedly why the cdc now says if you have been exposed, you should not get tested. This new theory that the president goes by, the more the people are infected, the better we are. That means they want to test less people even after you have been exposed. If you have not been tested or been exposed, you dont know that you are positive. The more the people infected, the better. This is madness. It has taken hold at the top of the u. S. Government. The president is taking this as a big idea. How to deal with coronavirus from here on out. Any democrats or anybody in the country that does not want this and want to stop people from getting infected, theyre trying to shutdown your churches and against god and lock you in your home for some sort of nefarious hypocrisy. Conspiracy. 60 days before the election. Our former National Institute of health joins us to talk about this next. 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Show more of you. If i could, baby id how can i, when you wont take it from me you can go your own way go your own way your wireless. Your rules. Only with xfinity mobile. In 1989 went to these guys. A pair of viralologists who made Ground Breaking discoveries about the origin of cancer in the human body. Their research led to all sorts of innovations in cancer protection and cancer preventions. Four years later president bill clinton assigned one of those two scientists to lead the National Institute of health. He was the nobel lariat. Had over saw a massive expansion of the budget. And a wrld leader in research from aids to malaria and stem cell. President obama named dr. Varmus on science and technology and dr. Varmus was pointed at the cancer of institute. He served until 2015. Unbelievable career. When that is your background, you do not expect to see dr. Varmus name on top of an opted like this one. It has come to this, it has ignore the cdc. We were startled and dismayed to learn that the cdc altered its testing guidelines to reduce the testing of asymtommatic people. These changes under mine efforts to stop the pandemic. And increase the loss of life. In the face of a dysfunctional cdc. It is up to states and other other institutions to act. Up is down, black is white. Previously unimaginable thing to hear from dr. Varmus, hes the former head of the nah. That is how bad things are. He issued a joint statement endorsing joe biden. To be the next president of the United States. Joining us now is dr. Harold varmus. Im pleased you made time to be with us. My pleasure. Let me ask you of that characterization of the op sed. That argument and that headline was jarring to me because of what i know about your history in health and medicine, in science and medicine. Tell me about the Decision Making process to go that far first of all, i didnt write the headline. The headline was useful because it attracted a lot of readers. I dont want to badger the cdc. It is a Great Institution that served the nation well for many years but they made a mistake advocating that we test asymptomatic people less frequently. Thats the opposite of what we need. For reasons you laid out. We need to test people and limit the transmission of the virus. I want to explain first of all testing asymptomatic people is critical to control the pandemic and we have a lot of new tool to do that and we can do it cheaper and do it effectively. We dont need to have the most correct td advice at the moment. Im disturbed by the idea that people are confused by having Different Levels and what appears to be the Public Health. Thats the part thats very troubling. What i was trying to explain in that piece why the testing of a the people is important. This is transmitted by people who have no symptoms. We cant test people everyday. It would be extreme. We can do sensible things. The following people should be tested immediately or within a few days of having contact within person known to be infected. You know some people are greater risk of transmitting the virus if they are going to a sporting event or work and under conditions where they had to be close to their fellow workers. We try to understand this virus how it is transmitted and diminish that by urging that states and cities and institutions, including colleges and workplaces where people mingle closely. Dr. Varmus, you described it as a mistake by the cdc. I hear you when you talked about the conflicting advising and you described it as dysfunctional. I am worried this was not necessarily a mistake or something that was bungled by the cdc. With dr. Atlas having this role at the white house and the president s change in language of what the u. S. Goal is around us. I am worried theyre trying to reduce the number of people tested so that we dont find outbreaks and so that there is more outbreak because they have become be holden to that the idea that the more spread the better, we can build up immunity and save us to do anything to confine this virus because they dont like what you have to do to limit the spread. If this is a herd immunity idea, how dangerous is that . Well, it is dangerous. I resonate with your concerns and i share some of them. In the piece that we wrote how decisions got made. We are trying to look at what was replaced and what was put in place on the cdcs website and try to explain why this is the wrong thing. In the 1,200 words you cant explore and still uncertain line of decision that is led to this chain. All i can do is correct the change and change people minds of what we should be doing. Dr. Harold varmus. No noble prize winning scientists. It is an honor to have this time with you. Thank you very much for your time being here. Thank you for your service. My pleasure. Nice to talk to you, rachel. A lot to come tonight. As i opened up the show tonight. Today has been a weird day in the news on covid and a weird day on the news on president ial politics and a weird day when it comes to our greatest international adversary, that story is ahead. Stay with us. Adventure. To reconnect and be together. And once we did that, we realized his greatest adventure is just beginning. vo welcome to the most adventurous outback ever. The allnew subaru outback. Go where love takes you. With safe, convenient service. Were here for you tech well come right to you. Upbeat music tech youll get a text when were on our way. Tech before we arrive, just leave your keys on the dash. Well replace your windshield with safe, nocontact service. Upbeat music tech and thats service you can trust when you need it the most. Upbeat music tech schedule at safelite. Com. 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An ad that was launched during the convention during the past two weeks, absolutely incredible ad. It got squeezed out of the news cycle. I dont know if you have seen this before but you should see this. Watch. My son was the first person to die in combat under donald trump. Just five days into his presidency. He ordered the seam team into yemen. Not in the situation room with all the intelligence assembled but sitting across steve bannon. At a dinner table. There was no vital entinterest play. Just donald trump playing big man going to war. When it went horribly wrong. More important lyanne American Life that was lost and wounded. I dont believe you can call it a success. Donald trump demean my sons sacrifice. To play to the crowd. For four years he assailed core values. When russia put bounties on our troops heads, trump defended putin instead of our military. Its a hoax. He kneecaped the Postal Office to under mine the right to vote. This election will be the most rigged in history. He misled us throughout the pandemic. I dont take responsibility at all. 200,000 americans will have died before we vote. They and ryan have one thing in common. It did not have to be but for donald trump. If you would hear one thing, let it be this. Dont trust donald trump with your kids life or your own. Remarkable ad that was produced during the convention by the veterans group. Vote vets. We reached out to that gold star father, bill owens, for comments on that. We would love to speak to him. It does not seem like hes doing any Public Statement other than that remarkable ad that we just showed you. Certainly that should be enough. Meanwhile the organization that produced that, they really had been puncturing of their weight at the election cycle. In terms of this content they have been able to bring to the floor. Also, some well timed stuff including this i am going to show you today. Time to coincide with the president doing an event in front of a battleship today. Donald trump is panicking, finding any excuse to show up in the military communities. He knows if elections were held today, he would lose in a the military vote in a landslide. 60 disproves donald trump because he disrespects people who served. Our troops are more in danger today. Because of Donald Trumps betrayal. He abandoned curdish allies in syria. He would not stand up for our troops when putin put bounties on their heads and afghanistan. His weakness em boldens the enemy. Russia is engaging u. S. Troops, slamming into our patrols and syria intercepting our bombers and flying their bombers dangerously close to our aerospace. Trumps refusal to defend our National Security. Is dangerous. His refusal to stand up for our troops is humiliating. His threat it deplore active duty to troops against american citizens is unconstitutional. When it comes to the military vote for the next commander in chief, trump is not leading. Hes losing. New ad out today from again, vote vets have been doing these effective and antitrump ads. That point they are making from a veterans perspective how america trump refused to defend our troops and the eyes is being hurt by trump being so weak when it comes to russia. Thats a live issue not only in politics but on abc news. Russia interfering to help trump in the november election by promoting false propaganda. Thats circulating first in russian propaganda outlet. About joe biden being in poor hennal health. That bulletin about russia promoting that line, that was done in july. It is set to be released. A federal Law Enforcement agencies. The Trump Administration holds it at the last minute and would not get out. Two months later that intelligence warning still has not gone out. The trump campaign, meanwhile has been pushing that exact line against joe biden even as russian propaganda outlets had been pushing it, too. Part of the russian interference effort. Dove tailing with that. The only thing that Trump Administration has done is stop the u. S. Public from being warned thats part of the russian government operation. And this trumps sort of serviant to russia and it has an impact on the country as a whole, point of relevance to whats happening right now with russia in the world and russia in their behavior towards us. Russia is being blamed for another nerveagent assassination of navalny. Russian opposition agent. Also in the past week direct physical confrontations between u. S. And russian troops. The president has been silent on these matters. This isnt just a political issue for the election. This is live for the news. Michael mcfall is going to join us live next. Thats why ive gr of 1, 2, 3 medicines with trelegy. 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Secret aluminum free helps eliminate odor instead of just masking it. And is made with three times more odor fighters. With secret, odor is one less thing to worry about. Secret. Today Angela Merkel confirmed that toxicology results from a german army lab contain, in her words, unequivocal proof that Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a Russian Military grade nerve agent, the same used on former russian spy in the u. K. Alex say navalny remains in a comey in a hospital in berlin. Hes said by doctors to be in critical but stable condition. But this ideas that russia was behind the attack, that they used a Russian Military poison that would tell the world for sure it was them, that conclusion brought forceful responses from the leaders of the uk and nato and other european countries. Here in the u. S. , not so much. The president still hasnt said a word about this at all. Joining us now is former u. S. Ambassador to russia. Thanks very much for joining us. It is nice to see you. Good to see you. Thanks for having me rachel. So you have called on President Trump to join other World Leaders in condemning the poisoning of navalny. He has obviously not done so. How would it matter if he did . What difference would it make if he did . Well, it goes to the point that you were just making earlier, that he is weak before putin. He doesnt push back on anything. So putin thinks he can do anything, whether its running into our soldiers in syria or putting bounties on our soldiers heads in afghanistan. We dont know all the facts and details about what happened to mr. Navalny, but he doesnt do anything. It means were not leading the free world, rachel. Look at all those statements you just put. We are not even trying to catch up to them. We are behind. And that lack of unity in the democratic world makes america weaker across the board, not just with respect to russia, but with respect to all of our adversaries around the world. We have frequently seen the president exhibit this like profound weakness and subservience and meekness around the issue of russia even when people around his own government wont go along with it. Secretary of state mike pompeo seems to go along with it on the day that germans confirmed it was the poisoning. We did get a National SecurityCouncil Short series of tweets condemning it and saying that the u. S. Will work with allies to hold russia accountable. I was happy to see the statement. Thats strange to not have the president talking about it at all. Instead, to have this statement from an amorphous body. Correct. Because you probably cant even name that person, right . I cant. It Means Nothing compared to the words of the president of the United States. I want to underscore, this is not just a one up. President trump has said nothing about the democratic protests in belarus. He said nothing about what russia is doing now if our democratic elections. In other words, hes not defending the sovereignty of the United States of america. And i think this is hard for people to understand. Like if the chinese ships came into the San Francisco bay, we would expect our government to tell us about that threat because we could see it, you could do video of it. It would be physical. Because it is a digital threat, we dont see it, but its the same thing. Putin is violating our sovereignty. We should be pushing back on that. This reporting today initially from abc news and a number of other news that the Homeland Security department had an intense against briefing ready to go warning not just generally that russia is interfering in the election but specifically if you see stories out there about joe biden having Mental Health issues, those are things being launched by the russian government, laundered through their social media avenue tars and they are trying to use that to insert that story line into the u. S. Election in order to hurt bidens campaign. They had that intelligence briefing ready to go. The Trump Administration has stopped it from going out. Does it matter to the American People to not be sort of inoculated in that way against that form of interference . Of course it does. Its outrageous that they are denying the American Voters this information. And, rachel, i want to remind you, you and i talked about this in the fall of 2016 when we, or at least i on your show, was critical of the Obama Administration for not putting out more information about the threats at that time because the voters need to know what the russians are doing. If theyre trying to influence our vote, at least letting them know that theyre doing it might help them to make more balanced decisions about what they do in november. I think it is absolutely outrageous. It is not enough to debrief the intelligence agencies. They need to brief the American Public about these activities. Michael mcfaul. 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Since we have been on the air tonight we got the very sad news that hall of fame pitcher tom seaver has died. He was 75 years old. He died with covid19. He was a 12 time all star, 20 years in the major leagues, u. S. Marine corps veteran. He pitched in the major leagues 1967 to 1986. He was elected to the hall of fame in 1992. He was named on 99 of the ballots cast that year. Sad news. All right. That is going to do it for us tonight. We will see you again tomorrow. Now it is time for the last word with lawrence odonnell. Good evening, lawrence. Good evening, rachel. Tom seaver was such an idol of mine. I had the thrill of watching him pitch in person, and i was a High School Pitcher myself at the time. You would just sit there like a student and just try to memorize every bit of it. He was just a genius on the mound. Just amazing to watch. One of the alltime greats. Hall of fame is an achievement, but even its sort of not big enough to explain what he was. Yeah, and a wonderful person. A truly wonderful person. Thats absolutely right. Im so glad you included that in his bio