Donald trumps and his companys financial records, today revealed that his investigation into the president and into his company just might be much broader and more serious than previously known. It was a year ago that the manhattan d. A. , cy vance, subpoenaed eight years of tax returns and financial records from the president s accounting firm. Vances office had opened a criminal investigation into the role that the president and his business played in that hush money scheme payments that were made in the runup to the 2016 election. The hush money, if you remember, went to women who claimed they had had affairs with donald trump. Karen mcdougal and porn star, Stormy Daniels. The president tried to block the manhattan d. A. s subpoena, taking his case all the way to the Supreme Court. Arguing that he, as president , had total and complete immunity from criminal investigation. But last month, the Supreme Court ruled against the president , saying that the president does not have immunity from cy vances subpoena, and in making their ruling, the justices were clear, the president is not above the law. Their ruling made the Manhattan District Attorney basically the only entity in the country with a clear path toward finally prying loose the financial records that the president has fought tooth and nail against handing over. But there was a catch. See, the president could still go back to the lower courts and make other objections to the subpoena. So, that was exactly what the president did. He urged a federal judge to toss the manhattan d. A. s subpoena, because it was, quote, wildly overbroad. Trumps lawyers, essentially, said to cy vance, these records you are demanding go way beyond your investigation. So, this is where it gets interesting. Today, the Manhattan District Attorney filed his reply in court, and his reply is basically, oh, yeah . Well, we are investigating a lot more stuff than you think. The d. A. Cites news records on, quote, possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization. And he drops hints suggesting that the information includes bank and insurance fraud, both felonies. The filing references congressional testimony from Donald Trumps former lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen. Remember him . In that hearing, cohen gave details on the hush money scheme he carried out, at Donald Trumps direction, and for which cohen is currently serving a threeyear prison sentence, now in home confinement. But he also offered evidence of what he said was trumps propensity for lying to banks and insurance companies. I am giving to the committee today three years of mr. Trumps personal Financial Statements. It was my experience that mr. Trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes. Did this information provided to us inflate the president s assets . I believe these numbers are inflated. And of course, inflating assets for a newspaper poll to boost your ego is not a crime, but to your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to a bank in order to help him obtain a loan . These documents and others were provided to Deutsche Bank, on one occasion where i was with them, in our attempt to obtain money, so that we can put a bid on the buffalo bills. Now, giving false information to a bank to secure a loan is called bank fraud. Its a felony. Michael cohen testified there to just one instance in which he witnessed that personally. And we know that cohen began cooperating with the manhattan d. A. s office last summer, meeting with investigators while he was still in prison in upstate new york. If the new york grand jury finds a provable pattern of criminal activity, then will may ultimately be substantial charges for cy vance to bring. His office is urging the judge in this case not to let the president keep delaying the subpoenaedlessly in the courts, because that would end up being a kind of back door to the president ial immunity that the Supreme Court specifically reje rejected. Joining us now are two reporters with an extensive history of reporting on Donald Trumps finances. David enrich is the New York Times business investigations editor, also the author of dark towers Deutsche Bank, donald trump, and an epic trail of destruction. Were also thrilled to have back with us, New York Times investigative reporter, susan craig, a key member of the reporting team that won the Pulitzer Prize in 2019 for its deep and riveting dive into the trump familys taxes, including instances of what the investigation revealed as outright fraud. Its a pleasure to get to talk to both of you. Suzanne, let me start with you and just the lowest hanging fruit. How tantalizing is it to think that cy vance may actually end up with his hands on the tax returns and how likely do you think that is . I think its interesting, because today everybody it was interesting to hear that the investigation has now gone beyond the one you know, the hush money payment that you talked about earlier. But its hardly surprising. I mean, i would imagine if cy vance gets these tax returns. Hes going to be like a kid in a candy shop. Hes going to look at everything. I think we got one example of things where hes interested in looking at Tax Information to see something out in the Public Record and add to that, treax returns and financial records. I think theres a good chance hes going to get it. The question is when, but hes got a good argument and the Supreme Court has sent it on a course. The president will continue to fight it, but i think its a decent legal argument, kind of straight down the middle. And suzanne, everyone whos seen the showtime documentary about the investigation into his finances that was based on what you had of his taxes, if the whole thing were suddenly available at the end of a procedure was made public, what would be the first thing you would look for . In terms of the taxes . I mean, theres yeah. Theres so many things. What would be the first thing i would go after. You look for some of the things that cy vance is looking for. Are the payments to Stormy Daniels there or karen mcdougal, there were a couple of payments that were right there. And you would those would be, i guess, two of the big things that you would look at. Im not sure valuations would be the first thing that i would go after, but i think thats going to be a piece of a puzzle to me, because i dont think youre going to find, necessarily, in the tax returns exactly were those valuations over or under . But youll see that in some of the other records that cy vance is looking for. So hes looking not just for tax records, but financial records, that kind of stuff. David, i want to get to your story this weekend about Deutsche Bank and an investigation into the banker that worked with donald trump and jared kushner, but i just traveling back in time to this cohen hearing was so riveting, because cohen basically says that donald trump is guilty of what cy vance today revealed hes investigating, which is whether or not donald trump committed bank and insurance fraud. Heres an exchange with listen to this. Lets talk about this on the other side. To your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an Insurance Company . Yes. Who else knows that the president did this . Allen weisselberg, ron lieberman, and matthew calamari. So to your knowledge, did he commit a crime . Yes. And these three people know he did. How is this not something thats under criminal investigation at sdny as well . Or do we know that it isnt . I dont think we do know that it isnt. And i think the interesting thing to me is that the moment those words came out of Michael Cohens mouth last year, i got on the phone with some of my sources at Deutsche Bank, who have been looking who had been the ones in the drivers seat when these loans were made to trump. And they immediately confirmed that Michael Cohens testimony was basically correct. That trump was systemically overstating the value of all sorts of assets and the bankers would go in and sort of pore over his Financial Statements and his tax returns and look at the values he was assigned and kind of laugh to themselves that these were completely preposterously over the top. And you know, the bank dealt with that by arguing that they could just write down the value of the assets by as much as 70 . And they still thought that he was worth lending to. And i think the reality is that that might end up being trumps argument. That, this couldnt be bank fraud, because the bank knew as well as anyone that he was prone to wild exaggerations. So the bank wasnt taking him seriously, and therefore it wasnt a crime. So what responsibility does the bank have if he was submitting values that were so off that they laughed out loud and loaned him money anyway . Well, the bank isnt responsible for, you know, enforcing the law in this case. Deutsche bank has been proven over and over and over and over again over the years doesnt take very seriously generally its responsibility to enforce the rule of law. But i think the banks responsibility at this point is to be as cooperative as it needs to be with investigators, whether theyre on capitol hill or on sdny or in cy vances office. And to the extent this is a serious focus of cy vances investigation, it would really surprise me if he isnt going to reach out to Deutsche Bank and seek all their records, trump and his dealings with the bank. Let me put up go ahead, suzanne. I think thats really important. You said at the outset this is bank fraud. It might be. Did Deutsche Bank rely on this . In some cases, you dont need tax returns to figure out the Purchase Price of a building in manhattan. And they had other information, including other you know, his Tax Information, in some cases. So i think, just to be careful, they may have relied on it and to davids point, we can tell right now without seeing his tax returns that the information in those documents that Michael Cohen presented to congress, theres some stuff in there thats pretty crazy and its off. So it doesnt take tax returns to figure that out. And is it fraud . You have to come down to, did the bank rely on it . So, david, pick up that thread for me and also, just address some of your reporting from the weekend. Deutsche bank opens r s review the personal banker in trump and cu kushner. Is there any intersection between these two lines of inquiry . Im not sure that they are cause sally connected to each other, but theres an enormous amount of overlap. The longtime personal banker to trump as well as to the Kushner Family is now under investigation at the bank, because of real estate deals she did back in 2013, personally, where she and a couple of her Deutsche Bank colleagues purchased an apartment from an entity that now turns out to be partly owned by jared kushner. And that strikes, i think, a lot of people as a pretty glaring conflict of interest for the banker, rosemary bradley. And the reason thats important right now is that bradskblick w the Relationship Manager for trump. So when trump or Michael Cohen would go to Deutsche Bank with, you know, overstated Financial Statements or kind of bluffing the bank, they were interacting with her. And she would develop such an important central role to trump and his the people around him that she was a vip guest at the trump hotel in washington at the inauguration. She had vip seating at the inauguration. This is someone who is deeply embedded in the dna, the fabric of the Trump Organizations finances. And so to the extent that she is now in trouble at the bank, that really that raises a lot of questions about, you know, what information people might be able to get out of her, both inside the bank and outside of the bank. And so, and well see, but as i said earlier, i think if cy vance is seriously investigating the way that the that trump and the Trump Organization presented themselves financially to Deutsche Bank, rosemary bradlick is going to be very high on the list of people that theyre going to want to talk to. Suzanne, i want to give you the last word. And go ahead. I just one of the things to remember that cy vance is trying to get, hes going to be looking at these two issues, but he wants to look at the whole thing and he wants to just put all of the pieces together, both with the tax returns and the Financial Statements. He wants to see the hush money. He wants to see, was there bank fraud. He wants to see, was there foreign money . He wants to see everything. This is what hes after. Theres no question. And i guess, suzanne, the same question that i asked david was one i wanted to get you on the record on. Do you think that we know if cy vance is only person looking at what you just described, the whole picture. Do you think that sdny could possibly be looking at all of this still . I think i think they definitely could be, as far as we know, theyre not seeking the tax returns in this manner, but they could be conducting an investigation into who knows what. There could be a lot of things going on that we dont know about. A lot of things going on that we dont know about is sort of my motto these day. New york times reporters, david enrich and suzanne craig, its a pleasure to get to talk to both of you. Joining us now is andrew wiseman, former chief of the fraud section at the department of justice, former Senior Member of special counsel Robert Muellers investigation, currently a professor looking very professorially tonight at nyu law school. Andrew, thanks so much for being here. So you know, your role is often to break this down for me and we have the reporting, we have the filings, but tell me. You qgo back and watch that Michael Cohen hearing, and i watched an embarrassing chunk of it today, and its clear hes telling congress, donald trump is commit bank frauds over and over again. I just saw it one time, but this is his m. O. Is it likely that this is going to end in some clear criminal exposure for donald trump. I think theres definitely a criminal investigation and you have now with todays filing the manhattans d. A. s office saying that theyre looking at a series of individuals and entities in connection with the Trump Organization. Thats their words and their filing. And this seems like a classic whitecollar investigation, where, you know, theyre going to be looking for the bank records and theyre going to try to match those up and create a timeline to see what was the Trump Organization telling the banks, what were they telling the investigators, and what were they telling the federal and state and City Government when they were filing their tax returns . Because theyll want to see the valuation of the assets and see how those changed over time, as well as theyre going to want to see what the Trump Organization was saying about their income. Its not rocket science. You know, if youre trying to get a bank loan, youre going to be saying that you have lots of income and lots of assets and when youre filing your tax returns, you have an incentive to decrease your income, so you pay less. So the question is going to be forget investigators whether that incentive was carried out by people in the Trump Organization. A close trump ally and a veteran of the Justice Department said to me at the time of Michael Cohens arrest that that represented the gravest legal threat to donald trump, because the place where he acted most sort of hazardous to his own legal standing was in covering up affairs, was in the shoddy business practices. What do you make of the fact that cy vance went up and visited Michael Cohen in prison and seems to be following those threads . Well, its an obvious lead. I mean, one of the things that you need in a whitecollar investigation is someone to tell you where the bodies are buried. And so, you know, you dont want to take Michael Cohens word for it, but you want to see what leads he has, what documents he has, and then, you do exactly what the Manhattan District Attorneys office is doing, which is you press very hard to get documents. And you know, theyre doing something very smart, which is, the subpoena thats at issue here is to the Trump Organizations accountants. And that is really where youre going to get a cache of documents that could be really damning, if there is criminality, that is a really good place to look, because theyre going to have all sorts of records and tax returns in their possession and custody and control. So that was a smart move to go after them. Well, Michael Cohen i guess i ask, because moen was also, for a while, in the clutches of your old boss, bob mueller. And in his sentencing memo, donald trump is named as an unindicted coconspirator. Arguably, Michael Cohen gave all of that stuff to bob mueller and sdny, as well. And we havent seen anything. Does that mean theres nothing happening or does that mean it was a different sort of investigation . So, one thing to remember is first the special counsels office did not have within its remit in other words, it had set limits that were put in place by the Deputy Attorney general and that did not include a sort of personal or Trump Organization financial investigation. You know, sort of classic whitecollar investigation. So that was not directly within the special counsels office. Now, the Southern District of new york could have looked at that, but one thing that is public is youll remember, the skirmish at the sentencing of Michael Cohen, where the Southern District of new york seemed quite displeased with his cooperation and said it really wasnt full and complete. So i dont think, just based on that information, my sort of educated guess would be that the district of new york is not looking at this and that the office thats really taking the lead in this is the Manhattan District Attorneys office. Let me ask you what i asked suzanne at the top of the program. What do you think cy vances odds are, chances are, donald trump and his lawyers have gone back to the court and argued that its overly broad. Hes come back and said, thats because my investigation is broad. I mean, where do you see this ending up . Do you think cy vance ultimately gets the records hes seeking . You know, its youre always when you make predictions, you can always be wrong, but im going to go out on a limb oh, i know and say that i think it ises a as close to 100 as you can get, certainly at the District Court. As you mentioned, nicole, there were two arguments that were made by the president. One was that the subpoena was issued in bad faith. And torhe other was that the subpoena was overbroad. Both of those legal issues were already ruled on by the District Court. The District Court had already rejected them when this was first heard when it went up to the Supreme Court. So it is a near certainty that judge morerro in the district of new york is going to adhere to his prior ruling. And i dont see the court of appeals or the Supreme Court taking on that issue, so or a stay being granted on those issues. So i think that if i had to make a prediction, i would say that theres a real reason for the District Attorney to get these documents quickly, because they dont if theres going to be a criminal charge, it need to be brought within a set amount of time, so they have a need for speed. And i dont think that theres any good argument for not turning these over. Andrew weismann, one of our favorite people to turn to on nights like this. Former Senior Member of special counsel Robert Muellers team, thank you so much for your time tonight. Were grateful. Youre welcome. We still have a lot more to get to on a busy monday night. In many states, this is spoede to be backtoschool week, but the pandemic is still raging and schools are still shifting course. Howd we get here and how can we get out of this . More on that ahead. Get out of this . More on that ahead dont just think about where youre headed this summer. Think about how youll get there. 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So when a reporter asked the Top Health Official in mississippi how the state could determine when it was safe for kids to return to school this term, his initial answer that there was, quote, not an easy answer. The Mississippi Health director said last week that School Openings could depend on where the outbreaks were. That there was no one size fits all approach to School Reopenings in the state. That very same day, mississippi set a record for the number of coronavirus deaths in a single day. Cases there continue to soar. So today, the Mississippi Health director says there actually is an easy answer as to whether or not schools should open for the year. And that answer is no. Mississippis top official telling the public today that he was off when he first suggested students might be able to safely return to school. He says, now he thinks it is a good idea to delay school, maybe until september. He says if mississippi students all go back to school this week, quote, we are going to pay the price. The governor of mississippi is supposed to make the final call this week. Meanwhile, children in parts of tennessee return to school today. Many more are expected to report to the first day of school in the state this week. There are no rumblings of delaying classes there. Last week, teachers in nashville held this protest. A mock funeral to protest the states refusal to cancel inperson learning. They drove past the governors residence with their cars painted with signs that said, dead teachers cant teach. There is no federal policy about whether students should return to the classroom in the middle of a stillroaring pandemic. We are a patchwork of policies in this country, on schools and on every other aspect of this Public Health crisis. But listen to dr. Deborah birx this weekend, a highranking member of the president s Coronavirus Task force, reminding the American People in no Uncertain Terms that this is not a mississippi problem or a florida problem or a hot spot problem, but an america problem. I want to be very clear, what were seeing today is different from march and april. It is extraordinarily widespread, its into the rural, as equal urban areas. And to everybody who lives in a rural area, you are not immune or protected from this virus. It is extraordinarily widespread. And yet, 4 million cases, 155,000 deaths later, this president does not see the coronavirus pandemic as his problem to fix, but if he did, one of the things he would probably read first is this piece in the atlantic magazine. Its called, how the pandemic defeated america. A virus has brought the worlds most powerful country to its knees, written by ed yong, Science Writer at the atlantic. Ed yong joins us now. Its an incredible piece. I want to get right to it and read you some points. If i left anything out, feel free to jump in. But you write, the coronavirus found, exploited, and widened every inequity that the United States had to offer. Far from being a great equalizer, the pandemic fell unevenly upon the u. S. , taking advantage of injustices that had been brewing throughout the nations history. Let me read one more before i turn this over to you. You also write, as of early july, one in every 450,000 black americans had died from covid, a rate twice that of white americans. Latinos were three times as likely to be infected a as whs people. I mean, the statistics are so stark. And i think the sad thing about this is it was entirely predictable. Like, of course this would happen. America has such longstanding Health Inequities that date back to after the end of the civil war and ever since, when health care has been deliberately pushed away from black communities, where health care has been apportioned more according to the logic of jim crow than of hypocrisies. As a result, black people suffer worse Health Outcomes across the board. So it is no surprise at all that should a pandemic happen to strike a country like this, that they would suffer a disproportionate brunt of it. Same for brown people. The same goes for disabled and poor and elderly communities. I mean, just take take poverty. So many of the actions that we have recommended to keep ourselves safe are out of the question for people who work lowwage hourly jobs without sick pay. You know, how do you expect someone who needs to put money on the familys table to stay at home all the time, instead of going into work, working in those essential jobs that the rest of us had depended on. Again, much of what has transpired go on. I just wanted to pull the thread further with you on the same point. The cycle we seem to be in now is that, as you said, the statistics are a gut punch. Reading it on paper and reading it out loud is sickening. But where were headed now with the economic calamity, is that Health Insurance is tied to employment in this country. And with people literally pouring off the employment rolls, its about to get worse before it gets better. Its about to get much worse. Absolutely. And i think it really highlights the weakness of having a system like this, which is just singular in the world, where you tie a persons access to health care to their employment. You know, this is not the first time people have been talking about this as a problem, but i think truly the pandemic truly highlights these compounding criscompound ing crises, where you have a government that doesnt take enough action, you have a virus that then is allowed to wreak havoc around a country that is already riddled with inequalities, with all kinds of other vulnerabilities, people get sick, they fall away from they fall away from their jobs, from their normal lives, and now they dont have access to health care, at a time when they need it the most. And i think this spiral was also predictable, as with much else of this pandemic. It really has found, exploited, and wind every weakness that the United States had to offer. And it turned out, the country had plenty to offer. You also report out how in washington, the white house and the federal officials did everything wrong. You write this. This is about travel bans hurting, not helping. You write, in practice, travel bans are woefully inefficient at restricting either travel or viruses. They prompt people to seek indirect routes via third Party Countries or to deliberately hide their symptoms. They are often porous. Trumps included numerous exceptions and allowed tens of thousands of people to entry from china. Ironically, they, travel bans, create travel. When trump later announced a ban on flights from continental europe, a surge of travelers packed americas airports in a rush to beat the incoming restrictions. So even when we tried, we failed. Its the wrong measure. And you know, i keep on saying that this is predictable, but someone whose first instinct is to build a wall, who rode into power on this tide of xenophobia, was always going to reach for Border Control as their first option. And i admit that it is very intuitive and that it seems promising, but for all the reasons you read out, theyre very difficult to enforce. They might delay the spread of a pandemic for a few days, maybe weeks, at best, but theyre not going to stop it. To stop it, you need to get testing ready, you need to shore up your hospitals, you need to get Public Health strong. And the risk of putting travel bans in as your primary means of defense is you forget about doing all the other stuff, because you think you are secure. And that is clearly what happened to the United States this year. As someone who cant think of anything else other than to build walls and erect barriers between people, reached for that and did nothing else. Ed yong, Science Writer at the atlantic magazine who has reported out a remarkable piece of journalism. Thank you for sharing it with us here. Were grateful to get to talk to you about it. When we come back, operation warp speed is about delivering a vaccine faster than we have ever done it before. But can it be done quickly and safely . Well get an expert to weigh in on that, next 37. 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The white houses goal to deliver 300 million doses of a Coronavirus Vaccine by january of next year. Today, President Trump moved that goalpost even closer on the schedule, saying that a vaccine may be available well before the end of this year. While the Administration May want a vaccine for political reasons, yesterday, and frankly, all of us would love a vaccine as soon as possible, scientists are sounding the alarm that we must resist the urge to rush out of product we arent sure about. One such vaccine researcher writes in todays New York Times, quote, creating vaccines is hard and we should be prepared for the reality that some promising ones will not meet the fdas criteria. Researchers and the government should also commit to transparency, so that people can see the results for themselves to understand the regulatory decisions. Waiting for a better vaccine to come along may feel like torture, but it is the right move. With so many potential shots on goal, sooucientists are optimis that a safe and effective vaccine is out there. We cant afford to jeopardize the Publics Health and hardearned trust by approving anything short of that. The author of that stark warning in the New York Times today is natalie dean. Shes an assistant professor of biostatistics at the university of florida, specializing in emerging Infectious Diseases and vaccine study design. Professor dean, thank you so much for joining us tonight. What is the reality of this push for a vaccine. And im guessing that october or january would both represent a real acceleration of how these things are normally researched and brought to the public, no . Absolutely. Normal timelines for vaccines are measured in years, sometimes even decades, but were talking here about months. So its been an incredible feat, how quickly scientists have brought some of these products for a virus that we didnt even know existed a few months ago, to bring these vaccines so far long that were already, some of them are already in phase iii trials. These are the large trials where we actually determine whether the vaccine protects individuals from infection or disease. So this is what you write. And i wanted to ask you to just lay out where we are right now. You write this. What we have right now is a collection of animal data, immune Response Data and safety data based on early trials and from similar vaccines for other diseases. The evidence that would convince me to get a covid19 vaccine or to recommend that my loved ones get vaccinated does not yet exist. So help me understand exactly what that means about where we are right now. So, there are a lot of different vaccines that are being developed and theyre at very different phases in their development. The ones that are furthest long are in something called phase iii trials. These are the largest trials, where individualized are randomized to either a vaccine or a placebo. And we follow them to see whether they have any side effects or whether they are infected or get disease. So thats how we can tell if the vaccine is actually protecting. And so, these are the studies that determine regulatory decisions, about whether a vaccine should be approved for use in a general population. And so these are the studies that are going to inform the fdas decisions about what becomes available and the plan right now is to stick to these steps that we want to make sure that the vaccine is at least 50 effective before being considered for widespread use. One of the byproducts, i guess, of the rancor in our politics and of the distrust thats been sewn over the last five months is that when you poll people on whether or not theyll take a vaccine once we do have one available, only 49 of the public says they plan to get vaccinated. 20 says they will not. And 31 are not sure. Can you protect a population when 49 of them is vaccinated . I think those polls are very interesting, because i actually dont find the big bucket of people who say theyre not sure to be very surprising. Why should people agree to take a vaccine that we dont, you know that doesnt really exist yet in the sense that we dont know how well it works, we dont know which age groups it works in, we dont know the side effect profile. So i think thats quite normal. Certainly, the people who are saying they wont take a vaccine, no matter what. That does represent an important barrier. But i dont find the people who are unsure, you know, that to be concerning. So my goal is to really lay out what the process looks like and encourage and advocate for transparency at every step so we can convince people that the process is there to keep people safe and to help protect people and that its moving as its intended to do, so. Natalie dean, assistant professor of biostatistics at the university of florida, thank you so much for spending some time with us tonight. Were really grateful to talk to you. Thank you for having me. Election day is exactly three months from today. And that fact apparently has the president worried enough that hes attacking legislators in one state for trying to make it easier for people to vote. That story is next. Sier f poreo. That story is next into a smaller life . Are your asthma treatments just not enough . Then see what could open up for you with fasenra. It is not a steroid or inhaler. It is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. 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You wont always know that im a police officer, because im not always at work. But you will always know that i am black. Now its time to make sure that there is change, because the world is watching. Good morning, nevada. How are you . Sunday morning. All right. The senate will come to order. When nevada lawmakers met yesterday for a special session, one of the first things they got to was a bill to guarantee a mailin ballot for every active voter in that state. Some lawmakers spoke for it. Some lawmakers spoke against it, and then they voted. All right. Secretary will close the role and vote on Assembly Bill 4. The bill having received a constitutional majority is cleared and passed. This is how lawmakers in an american state on video that you just saw for yourself passed a bill to make it a little easier and a little safer for the states constituents to exercise their right to vote. They passed that bill on sunday at 10 42 a. M. Donald trump had a different interpretation of events, calling that vote, quote, an illegal late night coup and threatening to sue over it. The president sounds nervous it might be because he is trailing in the polls now as we are 92 days away from the election and several states will open voting even sooner. As the pandemic affects more of life in more places around the country, states are trying to do what they can to help people vote safely. Yesterday morning in nevada, state senator remembered the journey her near ancestors made from being enslaved to becoming voters. My grandmother was barely born free. My dad was born free. Im only Third Generation free. Three generations. Im the Third Generation to be born free. Thats important to me because i can remember talking to my grandfather, my maternal grandfather, and i remember him talking about wanting to have the right to vote. And i can remember one of the things, the last things he said before he passed away was, he was very sorry he would not live to see the day when everybody could vote. Im supporting this bill because although i am Third Generation free i am only the Second Generation to have in law the right to vote. Thats sacred to me. Thats sacred to me. Tonight the nevada governor signed that bill into law. And joining us now is nevada state senator pat spearman. Thank you for making some time to talk to us tonight. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for inviting me. I want to ask you about the state. And i want to ask you if the partisan politics that are now have sort of engulfed the debate around mailin voting at a National Level if they have engulfed your state adds well. Yes, they have, unfortunately. It is part of a trend that republicans dont think they can win if a lot of people show up to vote. Yes, unfortunately that trend has come to nevada. Senator, it seems so backwards, though. I mean, Donald Trumps voters or supporters or people who might want to vote for him in november might also wish to do so my mail. Nevada is a state everybody competes for, a very important state. Is there any reasoning with republicans, any saying to them, listen, your supporters might prefer to vote by mail in the middle of the pandemic, too . Listen, we tried that. We tried that yesterday. There is really no reason. And i believe what they have done is they have been coopted by a message that is not true. Its not true. And, so, they did everything from saying that there would be fraud, that a lot of people dont want to be forced to vote by mail. They want to vote in person. And they just werent paying attention to what the bill is about. Thats very unfortunate. Tell us exactly what is in the bill and your comments about it and your support were it for so moving. Tell us about the bill and what it meant to you personally. It is very simple. So this bill ensures that every person who wants to exercise their constitutional right to vote can do so. Every registered voter will receive a mailin ballot. They can mail the ballot back or if they prefer, they can always take the ballot with them and vote in person. We already had a primary in june where we had mailin ballots. No problems whatsoever. No problems whatsoever. This is a really simple bill, and its designed to ensure every nevadan as the right to exercise their constitutional right to vote. Donald trump says hes going to sue the state over it. Are preparations being made to defend what you just articulated, every citizens right to vote . You know, we here in nevada dont take kindly to threats. We have been threatened with lawsuits before, and they have brought them and theyre usually frivolous and they are dismissed. So to that i say, mr. Trump, we wont be intimidated. We are doing what we believe is the right thing to do for nevadans. 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