Rachel Maddow takes a look at the days top political news stories. Magazine which typically showcases male celebrities. The males chief ref new officer and Content Officer have told some employees that they unsuccessfully appealed to david pecker, the ceo of america magazine, who reportedly ordered the cover. They asked him to consider replacing her on the cover. The executives said they argued that would it hurt the reputation making it tougher to attract top talent for future covers and potentially alienating hardwon advertisers. Nevertheless, there she is. Get her workout. Guys. It says it right there in the fine print. Four days before the president ial election in 2016 the Wall Street Journal published the first report that this company, American Media, most famous for owning the national enquirer, reported
did the president have this affair . She said yes. He says no. You say stop talking about this matter. I dont want to know. I understand. But federal prosecutors are looking into whether that was an effort to influence the outcome of the election. An effort that was potentially illegally coordinated with candidate donald trump and his campaign. That is a matter of federal criminal investigation. An audio tape apparently made surreptitiously has since been released which has trump with cohen on tape discussing it. And specifically they discuss trumps intention to pay American Media back that 150,000 that they paid to Karen Mcdougal to make that story go away. So now there are two new things. Number one is this. American media really has taken this somewhat hilarious step. Where is my ben affleck is wheres My Duane The Rock Johnson . Content for a piece about her fitness routine. So thats the first new thing. American media and David Peck Er putting together this magazine cover, scratching it together. All of a sudden to make it look like that 150,000 deal with Karen Mcdougal to cover up the president s alleged affair, trying the make it look like wasnt that at all. They were really after her for her mastery of the cable pulley. Or whatever. According to the reporting on this, according to their own employees, to take advertiser hit, to take Editorial Hit to the magazine which this entailed, we know they were warned that that by their own senior employees. American media to think this was worth it. They had to be scared enough by the legal jeopardy they thought they might be in when it comes to that contract. This woman and what they did with her for trump during the campaign. They thought it was worth it and they really did go ahead and publish it. Thats one new thing. The other new thing that has happened is this. Federal prosecutors considering a criminal case against the president s lawyer, Michael Cohen, are now officially in possession of all the evidence they are going to review to decide whether to try to bring federal criminal charges against mr. Cohen. Now, the Court Appointed official, the Special Master who had been appointed to review all the evidence to see if any of it had to be covered by prosecutors, that process has now come to a conclusion. Weve heard that from the Special Master herself and had it confirmed by sdny. At the conclusion, only a tiny fraction. Of nearly 4 million files federal agents seized when they raided mr. Cohens office, apartment and hotel room were protected by attorneyclient privilege. So only a tiny fraction were held back. The rest have been given to sdny. And those prosecutors, we believe they have convened a grand jury to consider the Michael Cohen matter. That is considering the Michael Cohen matter. Those prosecutors are now in the possession of all the evidence that they need to make their own decision on whether or not to ask that federal grand jury and sdny to bring charges against cohen. In addition to bank fraud and Tax Fraud Charges that are a little bit like what Campaign ChairmanPaul Manafort has been facing, one of the charges under consideration by prosecutors is Michael Cohens involvement in that alleged payment to cover up that alleged affair. I mean, to compensate Karen Mcdougal for how much mens journal needed and wanted to put her on the cover instead of ben affleck again. Why would the president be talking about reimbursing American Media for their contract to Karen Mcdougal . If the contract was really just to put her on Fitness Magazines . Why would the president be talking on his lawyer about paying that money back . So its tick tock at the u. S. Attorneys office in the Southern District of new york. For what its worth, that is the same federal Prosecutors Office that brought multiple charges against chris collins. Chris collins was the first member of congress who endorsed trump for president. He served as a Senior Member of the trump transition. He has been arrested and indicted. The same federal prosecutors. It is tick tock at sdny. Southern district of new york for the president s lawyer. And apparently it is also tick tock in virginia at the criminal child of the president s Campaign Chairman. And boy, did this not go the way we thought would it today. This was humbling. We really thought, i really thought with Confidence Heading into today that we knew what was
going to happen. The judge has been keeping such a tight rein on the way this trial has been going, it seemed quite clear the way this would unfold right through the end. We thought for sure the prosecution would rest their case by the end of today. Then defense would have to decide whether or not they would call any witnesses on Paul Manaforts behalf. Then there would be closing statements and the whole thing would be done. It didnt unfold that way today. The prosecution has not rested its case. And the reason that happened is because almost the whole day in court was taken up today in a mysterious series of conferences at the judges bench between the judge and the lawyers on both sides. Also, meetings apparently in the judges chambers where nobody could see them. At one point the judge himself left the courtroom and appeared to walk off. Not in the direction of his chambers but in the direction of where the jury usually comes from when they enter the court. We have no idea what happened for most of the day today at the Paul Manafort trial. We know that the prosecutors did file another motion asking the manafort judge to correct something to the jury that the Prosecutor Says he messed up. You might remember this happened earlier as well. Earlier this week they file a motion informing the judge that he had improperly scolded the prosecutors in front of the jury for something the prosecutors say they didnt do wrong. They asked him to tell the jury that he had been in the wrong. That prosecutors hadnt done anything wrong and he should correct that for the jury. The judge acquiesced tp that. Last week, the prosecutors asked again. They asked him to clear up something as well as the jury. During proceedings yesterday the judge interjected, as he is want to do. The judge interjected to tell prosecutors basically that they were barking up the wrong tree. They shouldnt be trying to prove something with this
witness that wouldnt end up being legally relevant to the charges manafort was facing. As a matter of law, it looks like prosecutors were right and the judge was wrong. And so prosecutors asked the judge late last night to clear up that point with the jury as well. Now, we have no idea if the judge did or did not clear that up with the jury as prosecutors requested. If did it happen, it wasnt in the courtroom in front of spectators and reporters today who had little idea of what was going on as any of the rest of us. So an unexpected day in the case of Paul Manafort. Prosecutors at the end of the afternoon, they finally did. They brought the jury back in and finally did start bringing on witnesses that we had expected today about this allegation that Paul Manafort had offered a Trump Administration job to a bank ceo who had arranged for manafort to get millions of dollars in loans between the election and the inauguration. We had previously seen evidence in the trial that the guy from the bank thought he would end up being secretary of the army for his troubles. Today, an employee of the bank fetched the bank ceo said he thought he would be secretary of the treasury or secretary of housing and urban development. And thats apparently, those apparently were dangled. In addition to whatever else was, including a potential job with the army. So those details between Paul Manafort and so whether or not there was some quid pro quo with the bank ceo thought he would get something from the Trump Administration, in exchange for green lighting those loans. We thought that would be the finale today. That tale has started to be told. They didnt start until late in the afternoon. Honestly, The Big Question now, the big mystery now is, what happened during those hours long delays . What happened in the sealed discussions out of earshot all day long. We know it is late at the end of the case. There will be more witnesses on monday for the prosecution. Were told that closing arguments will take place only as early as tuesday. Particularly if the defense doesnt call its open witnesses, own witnesses, which they might not. Given this strange turn, is this the kind of thing that is a normal occurrence . Not too strange an occurrence . In a trial that has been running as fast as this one in this kind of a court where it seems to be run on such a tight schedule . Can we tell if it had something to do with the jury . Do we think Hit Something to do with the fact prosecutors keep trying on correct the judge . For him in their words, screwing
stuff up . And when do we find out . This was the note we got today. We tried to get the formal record of what happened in this courtroom today. Quote, the transcript is under seal and will not be available to the public. Some day that may change. Until that happens, we have to ask people who were there what happened. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Was it frustrating or fascinating or both when things sort of took off out of earshot . If some cases, out of sight . It was surprising the way things screeched to a halt. As you were talking about, weve been moving at a Break Neck Pace for prosecutors to keep it short, keep it short, and cut all the witnesses down, sometimes spending half as much time as they intended. To then see the judge consume about five hours today with procedures either being held at side bar or in secret in the judges chambers was a pretty startling development. I would say interesting but at the same time, frustrating because we couldnt get a good idea why the trial had been put into some kind of suspended animation. One thing happened was this request from prosecutors for a second time they wanted the judge to correct something that they thought that he got wrong before the jury. We saw the judge did correct himself. He agreed that they had blamed prosecutors for doing something wrong that they didnt get wrong. They asked him to correct something that was more of a matter of law in front of the jury. We know thats something, there was a motion about from the prosecution. It wasnt something they were fighting about orally and in person. Is there any way to know if that might have been part of why things went so differently today . Why the jury wasnt called in until so late . Why the first thing happened when the doors opened was Bench Conferences where the lawyers were talking out of earshot of everybody else in the room . I think that could be part of it. I think it is highly up likely that that motion accounts for all the delay that we saw. There was enough other weird action going on with the judge moving back and forth to the jurys chamber at the side of the courtroom. I dont think what the judge said wrong yesterday, while significant, he said that attempted bank fraud isnt very important and is maybe something the prosecution should be trifling with. No one would expect an attempted bank robbery wouldnt be prosecuted as a crime so it is hard to see why it would be dismissed. That was the issue the prosecution got upset about and filed a motion overnight. It is surprising and unusual there was no public ruling on that motion and no instruction to the jury. Maybe the judge denied it. If he did, the judge didnt give any explanation on the record. There was some speculation morning maybe the defense or the prosecution was seeking a mistrial on that account and it might be difficult for the judge to fix his mistake without saying that manafort was guilty on that charge, and there could have been an argument of that sort. I guess well find out when we find out with all of these things. I know it has been long hours all week. Thank you for being our eyes and ears there. Thank you. Joining us, Chuck Rosenberg and Senior Justice Department and fbi official. Thank you for being with us tonight. Appreciate you being here on a
friday night. My pleasure. Thank you for having me. As an experienced prosecutor and someone very, very experienced in the Eastern District of virginia, a lot of us who are nonlawyers and who are not frequent observers of federal trials were totally flummoxed. Whats happening, how weird is this . Is it going off the rails . Everybody was trying to read the Paul ManafortBody Language to suggest if this meant the trial was blowing up in some way. As someone who has been there and knows what this means, how weird was today . Have you seen stuff like the happen before . Especially right toward the end of a trial . Ive seen things like this happen before. I dont think it is going off the rails or blowing up. Maybe i can explain. Sometimes a judge has to take three or four hours to straighten out an issue. It is frequent but it is frequent enough that we can make an educated guess. It usually involves a jury issue. It may be something as benign as a juror has something at home. That doesnt seem to be the case here. Ive seen it happen in my own trials once or twice over many years, a juror accidentally sees something or hears something. Maybe overhears hears a conversation, a bathroom or a hallway or cafeteria. Maybe Saw Something at home at night after a court recess for the day. Overheard a conversation and more likely than not, reports that to the judge. Why does it take hours to straighten it out . The judge has to essentially call a timeout and question the jury. And the juror. What did you see or hear . What you saw, what you heard, did that challenge your opinion of this trial . Can you put it aside . So the judge probably has to make some sort of inquiry. Some sort of factual finding. Thats likely. When you see a trial shut down, it is usually along these lines. In terms of when this will become clear, i showed the note from the Court Reporter in terms of this being a sealed transcript. Is this the kind of thing we should expect to eventually become public . Whatever happened today, will the discussions remain sealed indefinitely . I would imagine it will eventually become public. The courts really want to make all their proceedings public. Unless theres a compelling reason not to. For instance grand juries are sealed. But this is an open public trial. I imagine someday, perhaps soon well know precisely what happened. My guess is it is a juror issue. One where the judge had to inquire and had to satisfy that this juror, whatever he or she
saw or heard can put that aside and consider the case fairly and even handedly. There is Something Else that happened today. I want to ask you. Can you stick around . Yes. Chuck rosenberg is back with us after this. Stay with us. I dont keep track of regrets. And i dont add up the years. But what i do count on is boost®. Delicious boost® high protein nuritional drink now has 33 more protein, along with 26 Essential Vitamins and minerals boost® high protein. Be up for life. Get ready to switch. Protected by flo. Should say, protected by alan and jamie. Right . Should it . When you bundle home and auto. Run, alan . You get more than just savings. You get roundtheclock protection. You get more than just savings. Thanks, janet. Its welcomemy happy place. Store. You can learn how to switch to xfinity mobile, a new Wireless Network that saves you cash. And you can get 5 lines of talk and text included with your internet. And over here im having my birthday party. Dj fluffernutter, hit it dj fluffernutter
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life, as an american citizen, you never before had to know name Andrew Miller. Andrew miller is an american man who apparently works now as a House Painter in the suburbs of st. Louis, missouri. In 2016 around the time of the republican convention, he worked for a long time friend and aide to donald trump. He worked for a man named roger stone. It is a little fuzzy exactly what did he for roger stone. But whatever it was, it was enough that he told Andrew Miller that he needed to testify before a grand jury. On may 18th, Andrew Miller was told he should appear voluntarily before the grand jury and should turn over documents. When may 18th turned around, Andrew Miller did not show up. Then the Special Counsel made it mandatory. The Special Counsel subpoenaed Andrew Miller to appear on june 8th. June 8th rolled around and he did not show up. Then a federal judge ordered him to comply and ruled in fact he really did have to appear before
the grand jury on june 29th. June 29th rolled around and this time Andrew Miller did not show up. He did file a formal motion to quash the subpoena. To get rid of the speenl on the grounds it is unconstitutional. That was shot down. The judge didnt just say no against the argument. She dismantled it in a 93page ruling to Andrew Millers allegation that the Special Counsel wields too much power with too little accountability. The judge shot back, the scope of the Special Counsels power falls well within the boundaries of the constitution as the Special Counsel is supervised by an official who himself accountable to the elected president. That meant andrew had no more
wiggle room. He had to testify. Today. And again he didnt show up so today judge held Andrew Miller in Contempt Of Court for refusing to show up. Refusing to testify before the Robert Mueller grand jury. I am no lawyer but to me this seems like kamikaze mission. Why do this . What is the strategy here . Where does this end . Does he potentially end up going to jail now . Joining me, Chuck Rosenberg, former senior fbi official. Thank you for sticking around to help me with this. My pleasure. I understand Contempt Of Court meaning you have been told to do something by the court and youre not doing it and you dont have an option. In this case, the court ruling that mr. Miller is in contempt for defying the subpoena, what is the consequence . Does this mean that he will go to jail . Conceivably. Im going to get a little nerdy on you. Yay
theres civil contempt in which case the judge, judge howell, simply wants miller to comply. As soon as he complies, as soon as he testifies, as soon as he follows her order, the contempt is lifted. Theres Criminal Contempt designed to punish. Not to enforce compliance. It seems the to me she held him if civil contempt. All you need to do is comply with my order and were square. So he has an easy out. If he doesnt comply, she can continue to hold him in contempt until he does, which means putting him in jail or fining him or Something Else to try to coerce his compliance. We cant see the ruling in this case. If she is now holding him in
civil contempt and he continues to defy courts order and to testify, would you say she would then have the option to increase the leverage on him, including jail, does that mean she is turning it to Criminal Contempt . She could ask the u. S. Attorney to bring criminal charges. My guess is that it will likely remain civil contempt. That means as long as the grand jury is sitting, and grand juries sit for 12 to 18 months, he could spend all of that time in jail. By the way, the Special Counsel, bob muellers team could subpoena him again after that first grand jury expires. If he chooses to disobey again, he could be held in contempt again. It is really on him to simply comply. When you get subpoenaed, you have two lawful options. You can plead the fifth
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with local activists. They even hired someone to emperson ate. They were a soft target. Russians were able to find people there they could dupe into participating in their operations. But theres another specific way they went after florida that we dont yet understand the consequences of. We dont understand the danger of it but it is back in the news. The details turned up a few days ago in the last big indictment. The indictment against a whole bunch of Intelligence Officers. From the gru. In that indictment, the month before the 2016 election, gru officers that were involved in the russian attack started checking out the websites of various counties in georgia and iowa and florida. They just started visiting the websites. The indictment says it was part of the Gru Targeting State and
county offices responsible for administering the 2016 elections. But then there is this paragraph in the indictment. By november 2016, but still before the election. The election was november 8th. This means this happened in the first seven days of november. Literally the final week before the election. These gru agents sent over 100 spear phishing emails to organizations and personnel involved in administering elections. In numerous florida counties. It contained malware that they embedded in their emails. The last week of the election . So this isnt like, this is a very specific thing. This Isnt Like Hijacking American political causes to make them more extreme and divisive. This isnt targeting facebook. It was supposed to make people hate Hillary Clinton or hate
muslims or make you think that Bernie Sanders and donald trump were somehow the same thing. This was specific. The last seven days before the election. The first week of targeted blitz. Blasting hacking tools, malware influencing individual elections in individual florida counties. What did they think they could do in the final week of the election . This was not a Planning Expedition to see how vulnerable those websites were. This was voting time. This was go time. And russia at that moment was trying to gain access to those elections. Why that blitz. What are the consequences of that. That was 2016. That was all spelled out in the
that was all spelled out in the we dont know what happened with that. The specific part of the attack actually did. Now comes a new warning that there isnt just some generic threat out there related to the elections this fall all over the country. Now comes a new specific warning that theres specifically a russian Hacking Operation Live and underway right now inside local florida Election Systems. We dont know if it is the payoff from what they did in 2016. They inserted malware for the next election. Maybe this is a whole new effort. Apparently its live and underway now. The way weve learned about it is weird and controversial and thats next. Fact is, every Insurance Company hopes you drive safely. But life can throw them off balance. Realign yourself, with align probiotic. And try new align gummies, with prebiotics and probiotics to help support digestive health. Keep it comin love. If you keep on eating, well keep it comin. All you can eat riblets and tenders at applebees. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. With the new Chase Ink Business unlimited card i get unlimited 1. 5 cash back. Its so simple, i dont even have to think about it. So i think about the details. Fine, i obsess over the details. Introducing Chase Ink Business unlimited with unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase. Booking a flight doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. For the best savings on flights, go to priceline. If you way too often. E moves then you might have a common condition called dry mouth. Which can be brought on by many things, like medication and medical conditions. Biotene provides immediate, long lasting relief from dry mouth symptoms. It is clinically proven to soothe and moisturize a dry mouth. Plus, it freshens breath. Biotene. Immediate and long lasting dry mouth symptom relief. Can you elaborate what you told my colleague yesterday about russians being in election records . Do you mean right now or in 2016 . Right now. What do you mean by that . Exactly what i said. They have already penetrated certain counties in the state, and they now have free reign to move about. They have free reign to move about. Florida senator bill nelson this week announcing theres something going on. The county administered Election Systems in his state right now. Not 2016 but now. Russian hackers have penetrated
certain counties and they have free rein to move about. Bill nelson is running for reelection. His opponent is the states republican governor rick scott. His Administration Responded to the state from nelson this week by insisting they had no idea what he was talking about. Basically saying, as far as we know, its fine. He accused him of, quote, making things up but Senator Nelson is standing by his statement and offering some important detail. Also notably the states other senator, republican member of the Senate Intelligence committee, marco rubio, is not disputing the account. Today he released a Statement Saying that the Election Systems have been and will remain a potentially attractive target
for attacks by foreign actors. Two County Officials said they heard a similar warning at a private meeting with rubio earlier this year in may. Senator nelson says both he and senator rubio warned florida Election Officials about this current russian intrusion in a letter last month. He said he sent that letter to florida Election Officials specifically at the request of the republican chairman is that the democratic Vice Chairman of the Intelligence Committee. We were requested by the chairman and Vice Chairman of the Intelligence Committee to let the supervisors of the election in florida know that the russians are in their records. This is no fooling time. That is why two senators, bipartisan, reached out to the election apparatus of florida to let them know the russians are in the records. And all they have to do, if those election records are not protected, is to go in and start
eliminating registered voters and you can imagine the chaos that would occur on election day. Bill nelson is not backing down from saying that. His warnings on the heels of the last indictment from the Special Counsels office that charged that Russian Military intelligence for some reason bombarded county Election Officials in florida in the final seven days before the president ial election in 2016. The indictment describing a huge late attack mounted against local systems in florida, that was designed to install russian malware inside florida systems. Neither the chairman or Vice Chairman are denying what senator bill nelson says happened here. Even as the republican governor, is he treating it like a joke or
gaffe by Senator Nelson. If what Senator Nelson is warning about is true, if this is happening, what do you do about the fact that the State Government really doesnt seem to care if this kind of attack is real and intelligence doing it again, are we supposed to count on random local officials to figure out if and how they want to try to defend against it . I mean, i get that localities run Election Systems, but if those Election Systems are actually hit with an international targeted attack by a hostile nation state, isnt this Somebody Else who should come in and help with that . Were just having random senators warn each other and hope someone figures out a home grown defense . Thats the plan really . Hold that thought. Thats next. Im ray and i quit smoking with chantix. I tried to quit smoking for years on my own. I couldnt do it. I needed help. For me, chantix worked. It did. Chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. Chantix, without a doubt, reduced my urge to smoke. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. Some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. Serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be lifethreatening. Stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. Tell your Healthcare Provider if youve had depression or other Mental Health problems. Decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. Use caution when driving or operating machinery. The most common side effect is nausea. I dont think about cigarettes anymore. Talk to your doctor about chantix. I dont think about cigarettes anymore. Heres a trip tip when you Search Hotels on tripadvisor. Enter your destination and the dates of your stay. Tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites. To find the best deal on the right hotel for you. Tripadvisor. If these packs have the same number of bladder leak pads, i bet you think bigger is better. Actually, its bulkier. Always discreet quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection thats a lot less bulky. Always discreet. Sfx [cell phone dialing] no. No, no, no, no, no. Cancel. Cancel. Please. Aaagh being in the know is a good thing. Thats why discover will alert you if your Social Security number is found on any one of thousands of risky sites. We have an unusual situation in florida that is unfolding over the last few days. The senator from florida, bill nelson, who is facing reelection this year. He is being challenged by the serving republican governor of the state, Senator Nelson says that there is a cyber attack underway that is targeting florida local Election Systems and in his words, the russians are in there now and have free reign to move about at will. The state through Governor Scott appears to be dismissing this and calling him all but crazy for bringing this up. From a law enforcement, Cyber Security perspective, what is your overall reaction to that . My reaction is that on the one hand it points to the natural defensive reaction we get from state officials, which is understandable and we need to account for it. Nobody likes to admit they have been hacked. But the fact is that we know that in 2016 florida was one of the seven states identified by
dhs where the russians not only were circling, but they were in their system. So i agree with the spirit of what Senator Nelson has said today. The other thing i think it points to is i made the point on your show a couple weeks ago that we shouldnt look at hacking as a single event. It is really a series of events. And we shouldnt look at elections as a thing. Elections are many things. Its an architecture. We represent the worlds greatest democracy, and we register people to vote. We educate voters on the issues through the media and other resources and the candidates, and then we have election day and then we tally the votes and in some places we do audits. So it is really a broader concept. So this campaign over here is really attacking an Election System over here and the thing is that there is just multiple onramps for our nation state adversaries. Its been demonstrated time and
time again going all the way back to 2008. I believe it is time to get our heads out of the sand about this. We need to really address it. And i think that men and women of good will who are patriotic could come together and solve this. Founder and director of The Institute For Cyber Law policy and security at the university of pittsburgh, sir, i would like to ask you to come back and talk to us about this again next week. This is becoming a political fight in florida but also a National Security fight in terms of defending these systems. I hope you will come back and join us again. Happy to, rachel. Thanks for the invite. Well be right back, stay with us. If you told me a year ago where id be right now. Aah . I would have said you were crazy. But so began the year of me. I discovered the true meaning of paperless discounts. And the indescribable rush of saving drivers an average of 620. Why does fear feel so good . I fell in love three times once with a woman, once with a country, and finally. With myself. So, do you have anything to declare or not . Isnt that what im doing . So, do you have anything to declare or not . Gives skin the moisture it needs and keeps it there longer with lockin Moisture Technology skin is petal smooth after all, a cleansers just a cleanser unless its olay. Copd makes it hard to breathe. So to breathe better, i go with anoro. Go your own way copd tries to say, go this way. I say, ill go my own way, with anoro. Go your own way oncedaily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that Work Together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. Anoro is not for asthma. It contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. The risk is unknown in copd. Anoro wont replace Rescue Inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. Tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, high blood pressure, glaucoma, prostate, bladder, or urinary problems. These may worsen with anoro. Call your doctor if you have worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain while taking anoro. Ask your doctor about anoro