Trump for president campaign, Corey Lewandowski and Rick Dearborn both testified on the Russia Scandal, and like steve bannon yesterday, Corey Lewandowski, reportedly refused to answer some of the committees questions today. Thats part of how we know that something really important and something really different is going on when it comes to steve bannon and the Mueller Investigation and the Russia Scandal overall. Yesterday, the big news we were trying to sort out last night is the fact that Steve Ban Nonon w into that house Intelligence Committee, refused to answer questions and was hit with a subpoena to try to compel him to answer their questions. Thats an unusual occurrence, and part of the reason we know how unusual that is is because Corey Lewandowski walked into that same committee. He also apparently refused to answer their questions, but they didnt subpoena him. There wasnt word that the committee demanded to have him back in to ask him the questions in a harsher tone, like previous officials who have refused to answer questions for a variety of reasons, yes, there were complaints from the democrats on the committee, but the republicans didnt seem technically bothered. Why was steve bannon treated so differently. A lot of people refused to answer questions. Hes the only one that got subpoenaed by the committee. Something with steve bannon is very different than the way Everybody Else is being treated in this scandal. Everybody in trumps orbit, from Trump Campaign workers to Trump Administration officials both current and former. We know a great long list of them who have been brought in to speak to Robert Mueller and his investigators in a voluntary context. We now know that steve bannon was never asked to come in and meet with Robert Mueller in a voluntary context, before he was
hit with a subpoena from the mueller office. The subpoena that was first reported yesterday, a subpoena to bannon that he must come in and testify before a grand jury. Bannon was treated very differently by Robert Mueller than Everybody Else in the Trump Campaign. Bannon was also treated very differently by congress. Just in that house Intelligence Committee. Attorney general Jeff Sessions was interviewed Behind Closed Doors and said he wanted to not answer their questions on the basis that the president may some day want to exert Executive Privilege to stop him from giving that testimony in the future. That was a strange argument from the attorney general. Corey lewandowski hasnt given any reason. When the president s son, donald jr. Refused to answer questions on the basis of attorney client
privilege. Neither donald jr. Nor donald senior is an attorney, and which one of you is the client . But in all of those instances, the republicanled committees in congress, the Republicanled Intelligence Committee said no problem with those bull pucky, i mean dubious, even laughbling attempts to avoid Answering Questions to assert some pseudo legal rationale for not answering the committees questions. Everybody else has weaseled out of Answering Questions and they have not cared at all. Democrats have complained, republicans have mott cared. Then Steve Ban Nonon shows up, tries the same thing, boom, heres your subpoena. Why is he being treated so differently . I think weve figured it out. Last july, july 25th. Paul manafort, surprise, appeared on capitol hill, and his spokesman announced that Paul Manafort, surprise, had
just testified to the Intelligence Committee on the russia matter. Nobody had known that was going to happen before manafort turned up and his spokesman sprung it on everybody. It had been kept secret. That was july 25th. Well, that night after midnight, on the 26th, Paul Manafort got his house raided in the predawn hours. Taking pictures of the labels of his suits and all that stuff. He had been in communication, handing over documents, he and his lawyers thought they were in a constructive or voluntary dialog with Robert Muellers office. That did not extend to the Special Counsels office knowing that when he turned up out of
the blue, surprise, it appears that the Special Counsels office obtained their noknock Search Warrant for Paul Manaforts office that day and executed it that night. His congressional testimony, his surprise congressional testimony and that raid on his house that night were apparently not unconnected events. After Paul Manafort appeared before the senate Intelligence Committee that day, surprising the Robert Mueller team, Washington Post reported that was just the start of it. Manafort and his lawyers expected to continue to cooperate with the Intelligence Committees investigation. Quote, manaforts lawyers have agreed to make him available to speak with Senate Committee staffers in the future to discuss other issues. Manafort turns over notes from trump tower meeting with russian lawyer. So he surprised everybody by testifying once, he handed over documents, he was continuing to give them stuff, continuing to meet with them. He was scheduled to speak to a whole Different Committee the
following day, but you know what . None of that happened. Those further rounds of testimony, Those Further T documents did not happen, because in a dramatic fashion in a predawn raid on his home, Robert Mueller and the Special Counsel jumped in there, that fbi raid with its speed, its swarm of officers, noknock provisions, all that drama, that may have been because of a fear that mr. Manafort would destroy some special information the Special Counsel wanted but also because mr. Manafort was starting to give that evidence away to congress. Paul manafort, eventually, was charged with a dozen felonies in october. So we have to look at the Special Counsels evidence they put together. Given the seriousness of the charges, that the charges came alongside another Trump Campaign official, equal number of Felony Charges and two other Trump Campaign officials pleading
guilty to felonies, it now seems clear in hindsight that the Special Counsels office may not have found it helpful in their inquiries had all the evidence they collected from Paul Manafort been spread all over capitol hill, possibly even provided to the white house by the president s republican allies in congress. Maybe even leaked to the public. Until the Special Counsel wraps up its investigation, we wont know if other evidence collected from manafort ended up being in another case against another person who may be charged in this roigs investigation, but Robert Muellers investigation is very obviously going full steam. Theyve got multiple charges against two senior Campaign Officials, guilty pleas and Cooperation Agreements from two other officials. They obtained a Grand Jury Subpoena and are still actively working with a grand jury. Alongside their ongoing negotiations to get the president himself interviewed by muellers prosecutors. I just have to say, in an alternate universe on earth one where things retain their natural size and shape, it is a huge freaking deal that the National Security adviser is quietly cooperating with the Special Counsel and has been for months, the Special Counsel that has been working with the grand jury which has already handed down dozens of accounts against the president s top officials. Thats happening right now, that mike flynn cooperation. While him and at least one more cooperating witness are looming over this presidency, think about the president s defense team and what they need to strategize. President s defense obviously needs all the yintel they can gt on what they are up against. What mueller has, what they need to mitigate or investigate themselves. To the extent that the evidence and the testimony is going to come from other white house officials, other Trump Campaign
officials, you know, a lot of those folks are people who the white house has direct access to. Theres no question for example that the white house is going to have ongoing access to and communications with people like hope hicks or Jared Kushner or donald trump jr. , people like that are not going to tell investigators anything thats going to surprise the white house, because those folks are in the white house every day. But then theres steve bannon. Who ran the president s campaign. Hes in a position to know a lot of really highlevel Insider Information about a number of things we believe the Mueller Investigation is looking at. The white house doesnt know that what Steve Bannons going to say. They dont necessarily know what he knows, what hes inclined to talk about, what he would like to talk about. Former white house chief strategist steve bannon testified yesterday. Didnt answer a lot of questions. Refused to answer some before the Intelligence Committee. Steve has had very little contact with the white house since he left. I know steve a little bit. Not very well. He left the white house and has certainly never returned to the white house, with the exception of a few phone calls here and there, very, very little contact with the white house. And i certainly have never spoke to him since he left. Thats white house Chief Of Staff john kelly speaking with brett baier. Whos telling investigators what about the russia matter. For all the other senior and even semisenior people who are in a position to know a lot of what happened during the campaign and the transis, ttion. The white house has access to all those people. Not steve bannon, not anymore, especially not now after the president denounced him publicly and fragrantly and repeated limit steve bannon has nothing
to do with me or my presidency. When he was fired he not only lost his job he lost his mind. He had very little to do with our historic victory. He doesnt represent our base. He represents himself. He wants to make himself seem far more important than he really is. Steve was rarely in a one on one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence. The president threatened a civil lawsuit against steve bannon after Michael Wolffs book came out. Then the president , after threatening to sue him gave mr. Bannon a derogatory nickname, sloppy steve has been dumped like a dog. I dont think the president understands dogs. The president kept pouring it on. Said publicly that steve bannon cried. He cried when he got fired from the white house and begged for his job. And the White House Press sent from the White House Briefing room said bannons employer should consider firing him. And then in fact, bright bart. Com did fire mr. Bannon. And his benefactors publicly disparaged him and cut him off at what seemed to be the insistent of the white house. And then he got a subpoena to talk to Robert Mueller, which is good timing in terms of getting a guy at a time when hes most inclined to talk, right . But he also got that subpoena right before bannon was summoned to go to capitol hill. Like Everybody Else to tell tales, the white house must be very eager to know what bannon has to say. But unlike every other senior person who is in that kind of position, or even charged with a crime, the white house is probably not in a position to find that stuff out on the downlow from steve bannon, because theyre not talking with him. Theyre fighting him tooth and nail. Hes not going to tell them
anything. I mean, plausibly. This time last night, we had no idea why bannon was getting subpoenaed twice, once bit Mueller Investigation and once Behind Closed Doors at the Intelligence Committee, well, theyre trying to force him to talk. Nbc news reports tonight that the people directly involved are operating on a belief that Steve Bannons subpoena to testify to a grand jury and the subpoena to testify in congress are not unrelated matters. Theyre operating on the belief that the mueller subpoena to steve bannon was designed essentially to preserve for mueller the first crack at bannons testimony on the Russia Scandal. What happened last night with bannon being in that congressional commity for ten hours was not the republicans suddenly being outraged that a witness was not being forthcoming with them about the stru Trump Administration. They havent cared about any other witness. What happened last night with
steve ban none non in there for hours was not a principled fight about how much they could block by exerting Executive Privilege. The very idea of that is absurd. Steve bannon and the white House Counsel have the same lawyer. The lawyers picking up his phone, i represent the white house, tell bannon he cant talk. Then he moves the phone to the other ear, i represent steve bannon, i say not to talk. Its the same lawyer. There was no principled fight going on between two sides over Executive Privilege. If so, the same lawyer would not be representing both of those entities. And the iran contra investigation, they gave immunity to some involved in that and it ended up screwing up the prosecution. In this investigation, it is led by a trump Transition Member who has been openly working with the white house to advance the president s defense on the russia investigation. That kind of thing has consequences. It appears that the mueller subpoena is at least believed by people involved in this to have been designed to stop steve bannon from talking to congress so his evidence goes to mueller instead, to preserve and present his evidence for the criminal part of this investigation. Right now the consequences of there being trump partisans leading at least some of the congressional investigations into the russia matter, the consequence of that right now, what it appears to mean about this whole steve bannon mission goss theyre jumping in to make Sure Congress Doesnt Mess Up what mueller is doing. Thats whats going on. And now is the part where i look
soberly at the camera and intone with fake gravitas, thats weird. Let your inner light loose with one a day womens. A complete multivitamin specially formulated with key Nutrients Plus vitamin d for bone health support. Your one a day is showing. Somesend you and your family overwhelrunning. Y can. Introducing febreze one for fabric and air. No aerosols. No dyes. No heavy perfumes. It cleans away odors for a pure light freshness. So you can spray and stay. Febreze one, breathe happy. Executive branch official today was fully willing to answer all these questions, it does tell us the white house is treating steve bannon differently than others who served in the administration. And this committee is treating witnesses differently than they treated mr. Bannon. Congressman adam schiff today, the top democrat on the Intelligence Committee in the house where they have tried to get answers this week from three figures in the orbit of the president , Current White House deputy Chief Of StaffRick Dearborn who were told did answer questions today. Corey lewandowski who showed up and said apparently, maybe hell answer questions sometime later and former trump Senior Adviser and campaign ceo, steve bannon, who would not answer questions yesterday but did get a nifty subpoena from the Special CounselRobert Mueller in addition to the onsite subpoena
he got yesterday. He was expected to come back tomorrow, his lawyer tonight is casting doubt on that. A source close to the situation says mr. Bannon will cooperate fully and answer all questions from the Special Counsel, from Robert Muellers investigation. The initial subpoena has now given way to mr. Bannon agreeing to meet voluntarily with muellers investigators, a meeting that is expected to happen soon, and, again, one where sources familiar with the matter say bannon intends to answer all questions and cooperate fully. Joining us now is adam schiff. Its really nice to have you back with us tonight, particularly this evening. Thankful for you to be here. Good to be with you. If a person is subpoenaed to testify to a grand jury on a criminal or Counter Intelligence matter and then they are subpoenaed to testify to congress on the same matter, do those things potentially conflict . And if so, does the criminal or
Counter Intelligence matter take precedence over congresss subpoena . They dont necessarily conflict, and one doesnt necessarily take precedence over the other. I cant tell you anything about the timing of the Special Counsels subpoena or whether it was a reaction to our inviting mr. Bannon to appear before our committee, but theres nothing that would preclude him from testifying completely before our committee and also fully cooperating with the Special Counsel. What makes this so bebuiwilderi is the position the white house has taken with steve bannon was directly contradicted by the other Executive Branch witness that we had testify today. And that is, that witness, a current member of the administration answered all of our questions, questions during the campaign, questions during the transition. Questions during his tenure in the administration, so what Sarah Huckabee sanders said yesterday, not surprisingly,
completely wrong. They didnt discuss on some long discourse with the committee about the parameters in which they would be allowed to testify. He answered all of our questions. They are treating steve bannon very differently for reasons we dont understand. It may be theyre afraid of what he has to say, it may be that they dont know what he has to say. It may be that theyve thrown him under the bus and they have their own reasons for this. But theres no denying the incredible contradiction between what they said to steve bannon, what they have said publicly and the treatment of the witness today. There is something strange and interesting going on about steve bannon. Hes being treated differently by the Special Counsels office compared to other administration and Campaign Officials. Hes being treated differently by the Republican Leadership of your committee than they have treated other senior Campaign Officials and he is being treated differently by the white house in terms of white house intervention in his potential testimony. Do you believe, at least on the
part of the way the white house is dealing with him, do you believe that this is because theyre scared about what he is going to testify about . Is there something about the scope of the questioning . The kinds of topics he could conceivably be asked about, that theres more reason for them to be more nervous about compared to the other people who have testified without any white house interference at all . That is a plausible explanation. Many of the other witnesses are current members of the administration or are members of the president s family. Theres no question about what theyre going to say. With steve bannon, theres always a profound question about what hes going to say. And that book, Fire And Fury, couldnt be further prove of that. The committee is treating him differently. The other witness that we had, Corey Lewandowski yesterday goes on fox news and says im going to answer every question of the committee. But then what happens between yesterday and today . We have Steve Bannons
testimony, and steve bannon says i wont answer any questions after i left the campaign. What does Corey Lewandowski decide to do today in contrast to what he said he was going to do yesterday . He decides im not going to answer any questions after i left the campaign. He cant provide any Executive Privilege, just that im not prepared to do it. And what do the Committee Say . Thats fine, come back when its convenient to you. When we asked mr. Lewandowski, did you speak with the president in the last 24 hours about your proposed testimony, he would not answer the question. So there is a lot more were going to need to know. He says hes willing to come back, but the committee wasnt willing to insist on answers today, and well have to hope that theyre as good as their commitment to bring him back in the near future. Congressman, one last point i want to clear up with you. Theres been a lot of discussion
today that the white house is asserting Executive Privilege in order to block testimony from bannon. Its my understanding that the white house is not formally doing that. The white house Chief Of Staff john kelly today on fox news told brett baier they are not doing it. There is reporting that suggests this is happening. Are they exerting Executive Privilege . Their this is the exact kind of dodge. They send john kelly out to say we have not invoked Executive Privilege. Technically, thats true. But what three have done is saying, telling witnesses dont answer the questions, but also dont tell the committee that weve invoked Executive Privilege. We dont want to look like were hiding something by invoking privilege, but we dont want you to answer the questions, so dont answer them. This is getting weirder and weirder. Can i mention, too, rachel . This is an important point which you started out with, if we
allow this, it will not only obviously impair our ability to get to the truth, it will impair the ability of any congress in the future to hold any Administration Accountable if we will simply take no for an answer when its convenient to the white house. Congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the Intelligence Committee helping us sort some of this out. Thank you for your clarity sir, thank you for being here. Stay with us. To their breeding grounds. Except for these two fellows. This time next year, were gonna be sitting on an egg. I think were getting close make a uturn. Uturn . Recalculating. Man, we are never gonna breed. Just give it a second. You will arrive in 92 days. Nah, nuhuh. Nope, nope, nope. You know who im gonna follow . My instincts. As long as gps can still get you lost, you can count on geico saving folks money. Im breeding, man. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Let your inner light loose with one a day womens. A complete multivitamin specially
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Celebrity News . How likely is it that youre coming to me to be updated on your Celebrity News . I know, i know. But you do actually need to know about this. In touch magazine, Stormy Daniels, my affair with donald. She is a former adult actress, the details of her affair with our current president are available on your local newsstand, and whether or not you care about the president s alleged marital fidelity or lack thereof, you should actually know about theis story and let e say why. Ms. Daniels alleged that this affair happened between her and mr. Trump in 2006. The magazine says they heard the story from ms. Daniels in 2011, but theyre publishing it today. We do have the question as to why this magazine is choosing to publish it now, seven years down the road. They had it in 2011, we asked and they gave us no comment. But this tabloid account, published after a selfyear delay, that at any other time at any other president it would have blown the doors off anything going on. One month before the election, Michael Cohen paid Stormy Daniels 130,000 to purchase her silence over her claims of a 2006 affair with the president. And she was not, reportedly, the only one. In a story that got buried, because it came out four days before the president ial election, the same Wall Street JournalReporting Team reported that a different adult star karen mcdougal, had also been paid for her silence about mr. Trump. She was reportedly paid 150,000 by the national inquienquirer, bought her story after buying the exclusive rights to that story, exclusive being the important part of that, the
trumpfriendly National Enquirer quashed that story and never ran it. The trumpsupporting National Enquirer denied quashing the story. The Trump Campaign denied any knowledge of what the enquirer said or did. Or any affair. The white house has been denying reports like this since the campaign. But in the story of Stormy Daniels, when Donald Trumps lawyer, Michael Cohen denied that there had been a Stormy Daniels donald trump affair, notably, he did not address the alleged payment, the 130,000 payment to ms. Daniels that was reported in the Wall Street Journal. We have been trying to track this down ourselves. We got basically the same response. We reached out to mr. Cohen about that payment and where the money came from. He was very nice, but he told us, quote, how many more denials are needed . Again, though, on the subject of this alleged 130,000 payment,
sir, crickets. Nothing. No specific denial on that. So, there is still this question of this alleged payment from trump world to the porn star for her silence about an affair thats now being described in a different cop tentext from an earlier time before this payment was allegedly made. So the question about this story about the idea of payment, thats why we plunked down 3. 99 for a copy of the story. If people surrounding the president were making payments to women to silence them, where candida did the money come from . Who paid . Hold that thought shawn evans its 6 am. Up to 50 faster today at invisalign. Com can this much love be cleaned by a little bit of dawn ultra . Oh yeah one bottle has the Grease Cleaning Power of three bottles of this other liquid. A drop of dawn and grease is gone. Alright, i brought in high protein to help get us moving. And help you feel more strength and energy in just two weeks ill take that. Yeeeeeah ensure high protein. With 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. Ensure. Always be you. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. The name to remember. Who paid . Whered the money come from . If money was paid to silence talk of alleged affairs with the president , as the Wall Street Journal has reported in the case of Stormy Daniels, where Candidate Mondid the money come from . Former trump adviser steve bannon is quoted in Fire And Fury about Marc Kasowitz. Kasowitz on the campaign, what did we have, 100 women . Kasowitz took care of all of them. We called Marc Kasowitz about it and asked him. He was very nice. The spokesperson told us the statements attributed to mr. Bannon are fiction. Neither mr. Kasowitz or his firm had or has any knowledge of or participation in any such payments during the campaign or otherwise, period. That statement from Marc Kasowitz about him and his firm knowing or doing anything about any payments to any girls, that is the closest we have come to getting any answer at all about these alleged payments, and it is not for lack of trying. Since that Wall Street Journal story, weve learned that no fewer than six Media Outlets were chasing this story prior to the election, including one publication run by this very impressive guy. Joining me is jacob wiseburg. Youre the editor of the slate
group. Slate has played an interesting part in this story coming to light. Its not my usual type of journalism. But i did get on to the story in the late summer of 2016 through the friend of a friend. I reached Stormy Daniels. She told me this story, and at that point, she was in the midst of negotiating, or so she said, with representatives of donald trump to not tell her story, but because she didnt believe they were going to pay, she knew donald trump pretty well. She thought theyd get past the election. Of course nobody thought donald trump was going to win the election. And then she thought the market value of the story would drop to zero, they wouldnt pay and shed be left high and dry, which is why she was trying to sell her story as an alternative. Its interesting. Theres a market for everything. The market price for a porn star selling her silence about donald trump seems to range between 130,000 and 150,000 depending on the date in Object Ctober or
november. But after november 8 it would have dropped precipitously. So shes telling you shes trying to get money out of trump in exchange for her silence. Shes talking to you and other Media Outlets to basically increase her leverage to get that and give herself another place that might potentially pay her for her story if the nda doesnt come through. She sent me a couple pages from this document. And they werent signed and i didnt have independent verification, but this document is really interesting, and it didnt seem like the time this lawyer of hers, Keith Davidson in l. A. , had worked on this type of agreement. It uses pseudonyms, and then theres a rider, a side letter published in slate that says here are the real names behind the pseudonyms. She is Peggy Peterson and blank to be filled in is david d
denison. Only two people can keep the copies, Keith Davidson, Stormy Daniels lawyer and the lawyer for the other party who we now know was Michael Cohen. He has not denied specifically that there was a payment made to Stormy Daniels. If there was, is that something that could be legally chased . Is there a paper trail behind that that could be found . The reason it seems to even matter is because the source of the funds is potentially important. If this is something that ends up having a meaningful effect on the campaign, somebody who paid that for donald trump, for the Trump Campaign might conceivably been making a the Campaign Contribution by putting up that 130,000. Wheres the best way to find out where that came from. Whether there was an fec violation. If Michael Dough Hcohen paid fo with his own money, i doubt
that, karen mcdougal. Who was paid by National Inquire irto not tell her story, that look maybe like a third party pay. In this case, i know donald trump like to pay for much himself but this might be the rare case he does pay with his own money. Theres no denial on the record that the money was paid. Not only that but Michael Cohen, trumps personal attorney, released Stormy Danielss statement. Its almost a finger in the eye if youre trying to make the case that you did not make a deal with someone, why do you release their statement . Maybe they would release their statement. It also sounded like it was written by donald trump. I dont think that, but somehow people take on this guys lin go. We could all take take on his lin go. We could all write a donald trump statement. Trust me, rachel. I want to underscore one last
thing you said there. If the National Enquirer bought the story, paid that woman 150,000 to make the story go away, the possibility that that was an inkind well, it was a campaign donation, should be looked at in terms of campaign finance. The money here is important whether you care about the sex part. Thank you, jacob, for helping us under this story. Thank you, rachel. Well be right back. Stay with us. And you dont have time for a cracked windshield. Thats why at safelite, well show you exactly when well be there. With a replacement you can trust. All done sir. Grandpa looks great tech thanks for choosing safelite. Grandpa thank you child bye tech bye saving you time. So you can keep saving the world. Kids safelite repair, safelite replace. Of these benefits to help you get better dental checkups. Go pro with crest mouthwash. Checkup . Nailed it
its not just a meeting, its a Business Meeting. Meeting, colon, Business Meeting, colon, consideration of a public release of a committee transcript. Tomorrow at 9 00 a. M. The Intelligence Committee in the house will hold a Business Meeting in room 304 at the u. S. Capitol. At that they will vote whether the committee should release the transcript from the meeting with glen simpson, hes the head of gps fusion. He testified Behind Closed Doors at the House Intel Committee back in november, kept him for almost 7 hour, cnn reported at the time that in that Hearing Simpson told the committee that the sources of the dossier werent paid. None of the sources were given money for the information. But other than that cnn reporting we have no idea what simpson told house intel. We have one transcript from him already from when he talked to the senate. That 312 Page Transcript that had lots of good stuff in it. This is a whole different transcript from a different sevenhour interview. Fusion want this is one released. And the committee will take a vote whether or not theyll release it. There are 13 republicans, 9 democrats. They need a simple majority to release the transcript to the world. We asked the leadership how they thought vote would go, nobody got back to us. They never do. We dont know when the transcript will come out, if its allowed to, we also know that the transcript left a butt load of questions. You should watch this vote tomorrow at 9 00 a. M. We are advised that its not
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