Smart phone can find exactly where they are can use the street view feature to scope out the entrance to that again, nondiscrypt office. But when the two suspects showed um to that Office Yesterday morning, they went toet wrong place. Even though they were wrong at first, they eventually figured it out. The address they were looking for was a couple of doors down from where they had started. They entered here after forcing a female employee of the magazine to enter her Security Code so they could get in. And thats how yesterdays attack began. After shooting and killing their victims, the suspected gunman e men fled northeast, they stopped less than 700 feet away from the charlie ebdo efs e offices. Thaw they continued north from there and then crashed into another vehicle before they abandoned their get away car. The suspecteds reported they carjacked another car and they took off. At that point, they were in the wind. They 3456r7 they matched the description of these two gunmen. Throughout the day today, the bulk of the nearly 90,000 extra Police Officers and Security Forces to search for these two suspects. The bulk of them focused their search very near that gas station in the small towns of long sprks ont and corcy. They also were focused on the surrounding large and heavily would e wooded area. Right around that area its one of the largest preked forszs in france. Its almost 33,000ic e ache acres of heavily wooded land. In the surrounding small towns, its about an hour and a half northeast of paris. Meanwhile, the person who had been described in social media as the third suspect in the attack, had been described as the driver of the get away car, that was 18yearold named amid murad. He turned himself in. That third suspect reportedly volunteered himself. He went to a local Police Station and turned himself into authorities after seeing his name circulated in the media as a suspected. French Officials Say that hes not been charged and are aware of reports that he may have an alibi. Namely, he was in school when that happens. There are ree reports of this that he was in class at the time of the attack. Of sloi e shrill those reports are unconfirmed. Not very much is known at all about that 18yearold who turns eed himself in. We do not know whether he was the driver of the get away car. All we do know is that he walked into a Police Station last night near the belgium border and turned himself in. Law enforcement officials have now turned to the public. Its not like they tracked him down somewhere or knew where to look for him. The only reason they got him is because he came forward and wants to clear his name. The other two, too. The two suspected brothers are on the loose and the police are saying they need the pup licks help. About a year and a half ago, we had a version of this unfolding in one of our major sill e cities. It was three days after the Boston Marathon bombings which killed three people and injured almost 300 others. It was three days after that authorities had turpned over from the marathon attacks. These two young men walking very calmly along the side of the street, you see the backpack there which ended up being key. They couldnt identify who these two young men were. They weighed the potential benefits and riszings of letting the whole world know that they had these aim e images. They weighed the upsides and the downsides and they decided to go for it. Their asked for help publicly. And, almost immediate e immediately after they asked for public held e help the actual physical chase for those two suspects began. The suspects were on the run, they hijacked a car outside of a gas station outside of boston. It was less than an hour after that hijacking that one of the two suspects was kill eded in a confrontation with police in a boston suburb. Jakar, the younger brother, got away. Watertown was put under a shelter in place order. People were ordered to stay in their homes. Police went doortodoor looking for the younger brother. It seemed like he had disappeared in thin air. Hours passed. The next day turned into evening. When the governor of mae ma finally lifted that shelter in place order. Letting residents leave their homes, even though the suspect hadnt been found. Just before 178 e78 7 00 p. M. On that friday a resident went outside to check on his bolt e boat that was parked on a trailer in his yard. Lifted the cover of the boat saw a bloodyiedyied body hiding there. Thats how he was finally captured. The trial started this week. It started on monday in boston. There are some weird similarities here right . Two suspecteds both young men, brothers who have been radicalized to commit these gruesome acts of violence and then evade capture. If they are in that forest or if they are still in france trying to evade capture, even if theyve crossed borders and are somewhere else in europe now, one of the factors with 88,000 Police Officers looking for them, in terms of figuring out how wellsuited they are for this man hunt, how much theyve thought through, how well trained they are. The e the older of these two suspecteds he reportedly traveled to yemen in 2011 to receive training from alqaida. That group is the group that trained one of the two suspects. According to theist Counter Terrorism sources, the training lasted several months in yemen. Officially tonight, both brothers were known to the United States and the u. S. Terrorism data bases. The source tells nbc news that both brothers had been on the u. S. Nofly list for years. Tonight, overnight, in france, a massive man hunt continues. And the suspecteds ares are still nowhere to be found. Theyre placing their best hopes tonight not just in detective work but in appeals to the public please, tell us anything you know. Richard, thanks for joining us tonight. Its nice to see you. Absolutely. Its always good to talk to you, rachel. Im sorry to be here in paris, one of my favorite cities in the world for such a terrible circumstance. But its always good to talk to you. Yeah. Richard, do you have any sense of the confidence levermpetence level . The competence lev e level is very high. The french Counter Terrorism authorities are among the best in the world. This is a modern country. If you saw the amount of equipment that was being deployed today and the gear that these forces were wearing, it left you with absolutely no doubt that they have the equipment, they have the training. The question is do they have the key piece of information. Where are these two brothers hide g. Most of this man hunt today was focused outside of pow e paris about an hour north of here and they were going housetohouse looking, they had some rumors that they had fled into that nearby wooded area into the national park. But we also heard rumors that they had gotten into a car and were heading on a fairly major highway on their way to paris. And there was something of a scramble here in the city as police were going to set up a drags dragnet to catch them on their way into paris. That did leave a few doubts in my mind that they have a real solid sense of where these suspects are. Theyre looking, bud until they find them i dont know if were ever going to know for sure. Richard, these new reports that at least the older brother may have trained with alqaida and e in the Arabian Peninsula for months does that change the way the authorities are thinking about the attack thinking and how it might fit into some larger plot that this might be part one of . Dufz it change anything about the way theyre thinking about how these guys might try to elude capture . I think its very important to understand who these people are. Theres two sides. You want to find the individuals and thats a man hunt op raigs, like a prison break. You want to just locate the individuals before they do more harm and to bring them to justice. But then theres the larger intelligence picture. What drove them to this. Who are their possible aassociate associates associates, do they have Major International backers. Several indications are pointing to some sort of yemen connection. First, the yemen group, alqaida and the Arabian Peninsula, that grooup had specifically threatenedtirical magazine, specifically marking for death, the editor in chief, thats one thing the group in yemen had done. And then what we learned today, the older brother, sieed, who had been the follower of the two brothers the one who was manipulated into this when we heard today that he had also received months of training. One of the two returned earlier this summer. Al cay can iskacay daalqaida is operating there and so are other groups. We do have one more piece of the puzzle that is completing a picture and tieing them through to yemens alqaida cell. Richard engle, again, i agree with you, this is a terrible circumstance to be in paris, but im glad that youre there for us. Stay safe. Thanks for staying with us. Thanks. That point that rich was just making about po tebble ten shl affiliations, that it might have been directed by others in some way, we did get one other piece of that puzzle today. And it was a surprising one. And that satisfactory is next. Stay with us. [container door opening] what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. 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But instead of going inside the white house after the helicopter dropped him off on the lawn the president , instead, got in the motorcade and head to the french embassy. He signed a condolence book for the victims es of yesterday easter ris attack in pa risz. On behalf of all americans, he wrote, i extnd ourend our deepest sympathy and solidarity as allies across the centuries. We stand united with our French Brothers to ensure the way justice is done we go Forward Together knowing that terror is no match for freedom and ideals we stand for, ideals that light the world. Viva viva flans. Viva la france. You see it right there in the president s hand. Well be right back. Good gas mileage. Ecoboost makes a four cylinder engine feel like a six cylinder. My dad went and turned in his lexus and got the exact same car as me. He had to have it. Im very happy with my escape. I dont know if ill ever not buy a ford. Make the switch to americas favorite brand. 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This new Arabian Peninsula about this direct tie, at least reportedly between the brothers and the Arabian Peninsula now has more meat on its bones. Both brothers were also on the radar for american intelligence including both of the brothers being on the u. S. Nofly list for years. Since the attack happened, and since the brothers names and photos surfaced as suspects there have been bitting of biographical detail and information about potentially reallevant affiliate euations for these guys. I have to say that most of these details for affiliations, people who they may know what their lives are like most of these details are still unconfirmed and pretty sketchy. The reason youre seeing so much speculation and trafficking in these details is because theyre of interest for a very direct reason. It is an open question. As to whether yesterdays massacre is part of an obamangoing plot. A plot that may have a second act or other people besides these two brothers. One of the few things we do have spefk specific and checkable and knowable information about, shariq kouchi. He was going to fight u. S. Troops in iraq. He never made it there. He was arrested. Ultimately, put on trial. Not just with the one other young man he was traveling with he was put on trial as part of a larger group that was essentially tried for working in concert, Work Together to funnel fighters into the iraq war. So 2005 is when he was arrested. Even though he was convicted and sentenced, his sensetence applied retroactively to the time he already served awaiting trial. Details on that are not fully clear. In 20 so10, he was picked up again. He was held for several months in conjunction with an attempted prison break. French Police Arrested 14 people and a plot to bust out of prison a man who had been convicted of master erer mine erer 3450i7bd minding a 35 ris train plot. He was held for three months, but they didnt try him. He was later freed for lack of evidence. So he was never prosecuted for that case. But police now say that in their investigation of that case they found evidence on sharifs computer indicating that he had been seeking out and watching online jihakidist videos and things like that. We got that detail because of his criminal record. Now, the older of the two brothers, as far as we know he does not have a criminal record. But now we know that while his younger brother was being questioned by police and held for three months and while they were reportedly finding alqaida speeches and jihadist content on the younger brothers cop emputer in 2010, the older brother, the one with no criminal record he was on his way to yemen to train as an alqaida affiliate for months. Thats something that we understand now that we did not understand yesterday. Sorting out what is affirmable in this case is a wrork of art. Fol loglowing that trail is the best e best weve got to go on now. 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He stopped at a local ice cream parly e lor and to, again, deliver a speech touting his conservative credentials and laying the groundwork for a president ial run maybe some day. That was 2 e june 1st, 2009. In a matter of two weeks, his president ial campaign was over. Last year, i had an affair. I violated the vows of my marriage it is absolutely the worst thing ive done in my life. I will not mention any names. The woman i was involved with and her husband, were both Close Friends and they both worked for me. Our families were very close. That closeness put me into situations during a very difficult time in my marriage which led to my inappropriate behavior. On june 1st republican president ial hopeful tramping all over iowa. 15 days later, not only was he never going to be president , he potentially was heading to the clink. That set off one of more incredible congressional scandals that we have seen in a very long time. It ineinvolved john stanson and doug hampton. They live in a nice place, its basically a suburb of las vegas on the west side. In noef 2007 their very nice home was burglarized. In the aftermath, the hamptons moved in with their very deer friends, the enson family. Doug was a top senate aide cindy did bookkeeping for the campaign organizations. They were not only both employed by john enson, they took vacations together, they spent a lot of time together. And after the hamptons home was burglarized, they needed a place to stay and they stayed with their friend. And that apparently seems to be where the trouble began. The breakin happened november, 2007. The following month, came across Text Messages on his phone came to the conclusion that his wife and the senator were having an affair. Needless to say both families sat down together. The affair kept going. Which is amazing because doug hampton was working every day with john henson. Going to a trip to iraq in 2008. While they were there, doug hampton discovered more evidence that his wife, and iz ohmhis employer for lack of a better term should. He said can i use your phone. Sure. Instead, he scrolls to aunt judy. Like that was his covert cover up name for cindy hampton. And then i realized something is seriously wrong. What do you do when youre in iraq in the middle of a war zone with your boss and you realize your boss is still sleeping with your wife. Aparentally, what you do is call your boss room mates back home in washington. John enson was a very conservative senator, publicly pieous. He lived at the cstreet house thats often shorthanded as cstreet. He sent after coming back from iraq doug hampton contacted the religious conservative lawmakers and their sort of spiritual advisor and asked them to intervene to get him to stop this affair. The c street leadership helped him confront senator enson. Tom really kind of takes the helm. Oh hes smoken. Hes one upset man. And then the senator breaks down. The group at cstreet, in this intervention intervention, they forced the senator to write a letter, this letter, and send it to cindy hampton, a letter ending their relationship. Cindy, this is the most important letter ive ever written. What i did with you was wrong. I used you for my own pleasure not letting thoughts of you and doug and your children come into my mind. I lied to myself over and over. Doug has been a great friend to me over the years and i threw that all away over wanting to feel good. Theres restoring relationships with god and basically the whole thing is over, sincerely yours, joan. That was acceptability to cindy over night via federal express. Apparently, once the letter was sent he called cindy and said ig floral ignored the letter, he was forced to write it. He then called cstreet back. For that, theres another confrontation. But this time he told the hamptons that part of the way this is going to resolve is they could no longer work for him. I remember the husband and the wife both work for john enson. Now that the affair has happened and has been exposed, it etc. s starting to become a complicated thing. Joan ensons solution is to fire the woman he had a e an affair with and to fire her husband. Two things happen there after. Doug hampton is formally severed from the payroll in 2008. And, around that time may, april, the e 2008 two things come to pass that basically look like payment to the woman hes been having this affair with and the husband he cickhold to do that. First thing, its a check for 96,000 and two of their three children. It was written to the family and it feels drawn from the account of joan ensons very wealthy parents. Thats one thing that p has. The other thing, joan enson calls around and lines up some lobbying jobs for doug hampton. Okay. Fast forwaerd a year. John enson is planning to run for pet. But this whole chapter doesnt seem resolved enough for him to be running for president. First of all, the lobbying that he was doing over the last year was illegal. Theres a cooling off period. You cant lobby for a year. Doug hampton has been lobbying. Thats one problem. At one point, senator tom c e coburn gets involved. Then, when the whole thing came to light and blew up later, tom cob colburn trying to negotiate and said he would never reveal his role in those negotiations. He told roll call that was privileged information that i will never reveal to anybody, not toet ethics committee, not to anybody. The role was privileged. When he was talking about how much money to pay the family of his mist e mistress i was counseling him as a physician. Tom coburns medical specialty is obstetrics. Hes an obama stay trigs. And who knows, its possible john enson was giving birth at the time he was talking to tom coburn about these things. But, otherwise, after the negotiations fell apart and joan enson was heading off to iowa to make people think of him as a potential pet, doug hampton basically took things into his own eyehands. Or, basically, to fox news. Ten days later, doug hamton wrote this letter to megan kelly. He was basically trying to give her the story about senator enson and his affair. A relentless pursuit of my wife led to dismissal. I would like to say he stopped his heinous conduct and pursuit upon our leaving. But that was not the case. Doug sent that letter to fox, june 11 et. Fox aparentally decided not to pursue it. Four days later, on june 15 et he forwarded a copy of that lit letter to this guy. Senator Rick Santorum. Bassically, as far as i can tell, asking Rick Santorum to help to interview eene in this whole mess. Instead, he forwarded that email straight to joan enson thereby letting joan enson know that this was all about to become public. Rick e Rick Santorum forwarding that story. He went public gave the press conference to absolutely the worst thing ive ever done in my life. A sex scandal is not a crime. Family values is note a crime. Illegal lobbying and conspireing to set someone up to illegally lobby, that is a crime. There was a big investigation and a rigorous one. The report was damning when it finally came out. The Committee Found substantial and credible evidence that senator joan enson conspired to violate lobbying laws and he lied about that mysterious 96 96,000 payment they recommended that joan enson be prosecuted for those alleged crimes. And the Justice Department decided not to. They decided, instead, to prosecute doug hampton. Joan enson arranged for him to be lobbying. They were violating it. John enson arranged the jobs. And you know what the person who doug hampton lobbied once he had those lobbying jobs . Was john enson. He set him up in these lobbying jobs so he could be lobbied by them. And john enson took action that doug hampton lobbied for him to take. All at a time when it was illegal. But doug hampton was the one who got prosecuted. Ended up pleading gmt and getting a years probation. Criminal record. He got a years probation. He got a criminal record. Joan enson got out of it. He quit the senate and is now a veterinarian. This case more than any other public corruption investigation we have ever seen is just so troubling. Sf you if youre powerful it makes it look as if you can get away with anything. How did all of this happen and doug hampton is the only one who got pros cuted . How is that possible . That was a very long introduction. Anything i missed there . No, i think you were fairly spot on there. I did contact rick to let him know that there was some validity. They really misconstrued that. She had kellys court. My attorney and the first group of ensons had met. They said at the end of the day, if you bring any charnls, theres a statute of limitations. The listen i sent the letter is to let you know that i dont think its okay. Just because theres a law, just because you think theres nothing that i can, in fact do against what hes done doesnt mean that im okay with the story and im okay with what happened. Why would we want to make decisions based on lies. The biggest reason i aploechledaploechl ed approached him with a legal team was number one, it had been unbearable to live with what happened. But he went to iowa. So in my mind, this man things thinks this is all over with. This is all done. I em going to go on with the possibly the president. He thought he had buried it. He had buried it. Only a person who buried it can go off and do what he did. When people talk about the senate, they talk about it as a club. They mean eit in a positive way. In your case the club byness of the senate seems more sinister. Yes. When you went to tom coburn what were you hoping to get from him . What did you want him to do . What did you expect . The truth of the matter is its much like why joan lopez, chief of staff of enson dnt go to Senate Ethics when i started calling on him. At the time i realized i dont izeize izeize i dont know who to call on for help. You thought senator enson would listen to coburn absolutely. They also believed that tom had the character, had the fort tud to address a very difficult issue and tell ensi non that if you dont go ill make sure its handled correctly. I should note at this point in the interview, we did note that we did reach out to former senator john ensign today through his Veterinary Office in las vegas. His staff told us he was unavailable and would not even be receiving any messages that the time, but we tried. And senator ensign if youre out there and youre watching, and i feel a feeling you are, we would love to talk to you about this, too. son oh no. Can you fix it, dad . Yeah, i can fix that. dad i wanted a car that could handle anything. 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And i never went back. Make the switch to americas favorite brand. Check out special offers on ford fusion at ford. Com or see your local ford dealer. I dont want to name names, but they were both Close Friends and they both worked for me. Former friend and former top staffer for former senator john ensign of nevada. Doug thanks for staying with us. Let me ask you about that 96,000 check. What were the circumstances of that check . Who gave it to you and what was it for . Specifically it was really for cindy because cindy couldnt keep her job anymore. John fell compelled to give her a couple of years. She made approximately 4,000 a month. So it was really specifically for cindy. It really had nothing implicitly it was severance, even though it was portrayed as a gift from his parents . Correct. It was portrayed as a gift because they found out doug said thats ridiculous and they scrambled and tried to make sure they handled the issue properly but this was specifically for cindy. It had nothing to do with me. Justice department decided no the to prosecute senator ensign as we mentioned. You ended up pleading guilty and serving a year probation on these lobbying charges. Do you understand why they prosecuted you and not him . Even though he set you up in the lobbying jobs and hes the guy you lobbied . Sure, i do. I admitted to it. I admitted that we were dealing with Nevada Companies in that fashion. But i believe that they would come in and do a proper investigation, that they would really genuinely care what the truth was. I didnt think the department of justice would stop five months before ethics stopped. I thought they would do a better job and in doing so they would understand that john ensign would help mikewith the help of mike slanker, with the help of other people orchestrated me leaving. I never needed to look for a job, they created a job immediately for me to go to because john wanted me out of his staff. So he solicited the help of mike slanker to open up november inc. Back in november to employ me. And he personally orchestrated what it would take in order to get me out and get me back on my feet. So when you talk about me soliciting john or looking to john for a job, none of those things are true. John orchestrated it all. John orchestrated all the relationships and he told me what to do. I think the mistake that i made was i didnt know my wife and i worked for him, our entire income was tied. I didnt know what to do. I had solicited the help of another senator. I had gone to him personally. I didnt know what to do except deal with what he was doing and hoping that at some point in time someone would step up and stop the insanity. And he quit. But hes never been prosecuted and hes never fully explained his role in this. We asked him if he would talk about it tonight. Maybe after seeing this interview, he will. Relive and hope. 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