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Pandemic, and thats where we are tonight. Were also going to have jon ossoff join us later in the hour as the days close in on that Georgia Election that will decide who controls the senate. Jon ossoff will be joining us once again on that tonight. You have a great show and a great new year, and i will see you next year, my friend. Thank you, ali. Thank you very much. Well, Anthony Fauci graduated first in his class from Cornell Medical School in 1966 and two years later in 1968 the country endured the most turbulent president ial Campaign Year since the civil war. President Linden Johnson johnsonen abandoned his reelection campaign. President ial candidate Bobby Kennedy was assassinated a month after the reverend Martin Luther king, jr. Was assassinated. The Democratic Convention brought a week of rioting to chicago. There were large and small protests somewhere in america virtually every day in 1968 when the country seemed irreparably broken into unreconcilable political factions over the vietnam war. It was that year that dr. Anthony fauci went to work at the National Institutes of health when he was 27 years old in 1968. Dr. Fauci is still there 52 years later with the angers and arguments of 1968 long forgotten, having been replaced by the turbulence of the 2020 president ial campaign. And arguments over Wearing Masks and social distancing, arguments that will someday also be forgotten. Nowaday jd dr. Fauci has emerged as the most important defender of Public Health. Public health is the most complex challenge a physician can face. Private health care involves diagnosing individual illnesses and injuries in isolated circumstances with the mission of restoring the health of individual patients, one patient at a time. Dr. Fauci has 330 million patients who are threatened every day by the coronavirus in this country and whose Health Depends on following dr. Faucis guidance. Dr. Fauci has told us what to do to stay safe, and he has told us what is coming. He told us that this winter would be, quote, a really dark time. And here we are tonight having set a record of the largest number of deaths in a single day from covid19 at 3,428. And the highest number of current hospitalizations for covid19 at 125,220 people in hospitals tonight with covid19. And to guide us through this dark time we are joined now by dr. Anthony fauci who is the director of the National Institute ofurgy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of health, and who on january 20th will become president bidens chief medical advisor on covid19. Dr. Fauci, thank you very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Here we are on this dark day that you predicted would come. How much darker is it going to get this winter . Well, unfortunately, i think that january is going to be a bad month. And the reason for that is that we already are at very, very high levels of infection, hospitalizations and deaths as you mentioned in the data that you showed very clearly. It speaks for itself. The problem is that when you have the amount of travel that weve had understandably during the Holiday Season, a rather prolonged Holiday Season from christmas through new years, people congregating together, wanting to be together with their loved ones, which is again understandable. But what people will do is they likely will congregate indoors with larger numbers of people than they should, and that a very precarious situation when youre dealing with a respiratory born illness. I would imagine as we get a couple of weeks into january things could get worse than they are now. I hope that they dont, but when you look at the history of what happens following events like fourth of july, memorial day, thanksgiving, et cetera, it is likely that well see an uptick in everything in cases followed by hospitalizations and then followed by death. Super imposed on an inflection curve that you showed in one of your charts that you showed a moment ago thats very, very clearly precarious. When you see something go up like that, when you have a baseline of infection of a couple of a hundred new cases a day and over 200 deaths per day, 125,000 hospitalizations, the system cant handle much more than that. So hopefully people will listen to the Public Health measures of Wearing Masks uniformly, keeping distances and avoiding congregant settings. I hope they do that in the couple of days that we have left in the Holiday Season. The new variation on the virus that was discovered in the u. K. Is now here. Its been reported in colorado. Its been reported in southern california. Ive heard you say and others say that it is more contagious. Im not sure what that means. Does that mean if i am taking the same precautions ive always been taking, if i am in the presence of this variant of the virus i am somehow more likely to get it even taking the precautions i have been taking . No. I dont think so. Im glad you brought it up in that context because that can be misleading to people. If you take appropriate precautions you dont have to worry about any viruses. Its when people are at that borderline of maybe doing it sometimes, maybe not that a more contagious virus can slip through the Public Health measures. So i dont want people to be thinking that if they wear masks, if they take care to make sure they keep social distancing, they avoid crowds, youre going to be okay. When you have a more transmissible virus that means the virus will take the opportunity understand circumstances where people are not practicing Public Health measures, that it will be more easy for them to get infected. So dont get discouraged. Keep doing the Public Health measures that were talking about. So this new more contagious version is not more likely to get through my mask . Well, you know, you really cant say that because we havent done the study to prove it. But, you know, you always get caught when you havent done a study to scientifically prove something about a mask. But the fact is that if you double down on your Public Health measures, extraordinarily unlikely that youre going to get infected. If youre out there not wearing a mask, being in congregant sessions situations youre going to put yourself at risk. But you cant give a quantitation whether youre going to be a risk or not. Do the recommendations and youll be okay. Lets listen to Vice President pence and the secretary said about doing 20 million vaccinations during the month of december. Lets listen to this. Under operation warp speed we are poised to have a vaccine for 20 million americans before the end of december. So you still expect to vaccinate 20 Million People by the end of the month even though you just shipped out 3 million doses this week . Oh, sure, yes. They were saying that two weeks ago. Did you know that was untrue when they were saying it . No. I think they said that in good faith in fairness to both the secretary and the Vice President. They were saying that in good faith because the plan was to have 20 million doses available for 20 Million People with 20 million held in reserve for the second dose. The fact that were now ending the month and we havent reached that, i believe that thats just one of those things that happens when youre getting a massive program going. And hopefully we will get momentum picking up and well make up for that little bit of a loss that we had. So there were i think 11 or 12 million doses that were actually shipped. 2 to 3 million were actually put into someones arms. What we wanted were 20 million ship asked 20 million in the arm. It didnt happen. Hopefully as we get into the first week, second week in january theyll be playing catchup. But i think the statements that were made at that time were made in good faith. Doctor, do we know why it didnt happen in terms that allow us to project that it can happen . And certainly the new administration by february will be able to realize that kind of promise of 20 million doses in a month or less than a month. You know, what i am more concerned about is that i believe that the actual shipping, the transportation of the doses from where theyre stored, when theyve been filled and finished to the individual locations will be according to what the projection is. I have a concern about the implementation of the vaccine into peoples arms by getting support. And i believe the local jurisdictions do need more support. I mean its reasonably easy when youre doing it with Health Care Providers because theyre in the hospital for the most part. You have people who know what theyre doing. They can vaccinate them pretty easily. When you start getting out to more in the community its going to be more difficult. So what i would hope that we get the kind of support locally to the local jurisdictions, the counties, the cities, the states. That they can then do what we hope theyre able to do is to keep up with the demand of getting a considerable number of people vaccinated each day. I mean, if you want to get to what weve been talking about, namely a level of herd immunity, which by my estimation is somewhere between 70 and 80 of the people getting vaccinated if you want to do that in a reasonable period of time you have to vaccinate 11 Million People a day. Thats what we have to do is turn on the after burners to get people vaccinated as we get into january, february, and march. Dr. Fauci, let me go to a technical point about the vaccines and vaccination process because weve got a story that was an inevitable story. I dont think anyone should be really terribly angry about this. There was some human error of a vaccine left out of refrigeration for about 12 hours. That wasnt discovered in time. Some of that vaccine was injected into some patients after it had fallen out of the refrigeration protocol that was necessary for it, but its a very small amount. That will surely happen again from time to time because these have to be handled in such delicate ways. Its human error. Thats going to happen. But what happens to that vaccine, what happens to that patient if a patient gets an injection of a vaccine that has been improperly handled according to the temperature guidelines . Is that a harmless event, or is there something to be concerned about about what we are then injecting into that patient . That does not become a safety issue. That becomes a potency issue. So what might happen we dont know, but likely if you look at the particular guidelines of how you handle these that if in fact if it loses some of its potency they may not get as adequate an immune response you would like them to get. Its sort of like an expired medication. Its not going to cause a person harm, but it may not help them as much as a vaccine that went thou the proper cold chain protocol. And what would you recommend to someone do we know yet what to recommend to someone if thats discovered, that oops we discover a few days after the fact that we gave you a vaccine that had not been properly refrr refrigerated for too long. Do you come back in for another vaccination, or do you just wait . Well, i dont want to make policy on your show. But what i would do as a scientist what i would recommend is that the person come back after a period of time, draw their blood, see if theyve made antibodies against the particular spike protein. If they havent or theyre suboptimal, i would go back and again literally start from scratch because theyre going to have to come back for a boost anyway. If you give them a boost and you find out their antibody level didnt go up, i would just revaccinate them. If you made a mistake, then you owe it to the person to revaccinate them. Im so glad youve spoken about this, dr. Fauci, because i have to tell you that out here in the world these are the questions im getting all the time. Is this possibilities of a vaccine when people hear about that ultra refrigeration it needs they worry about the consistency of it and how important that is to the process. I want to go to joe bidens plan. Youll be advising him on january 20th in the white house. Hes saying he wants 100 million shots in the first 100 days of the biden presidency. Given our experience so far, is that possible . You know, its possible if you put a fullcourt press at the local level. And this gets back to what i just said a couple of minutes ago, that if you really want the local authorities, the states, the counties, to be able to do that and it is doable its not going to happen spontaneously. Youve got to give them the capability, the resources and everything it takes to do it. You cant just say go ahead and do it because quite frankly many of them are not capable of doing it. So if you really want to be successful with that, and i think you can be so that the projection that the president elect has made i think is reasonable. In fact, he might even want to do more than that. And if you want to do more than that, if you want to at least do that, youve got to give the states and the local authorities the capability of doing it. Whatever resources they need, theyve got to be able to get to do that. What does the possibility of other vaccines coming online in the United States mean to the Vaccination Program going down the road . We have the astrazeneca vaccine. The u. K. Is getting ready to use that one. That doesnt require extraordinary refrigeration, but it also reportedly has a much lower effectiveness rate, something on the order of 65 . What does that mean to the future of the Vaccination Program here . Well, the good news is that there are multiple vaccine candidates that are going to be operational within a period of time. We already have the two that were talking about now, the moderna and the pfizer which are mrna vaccines. You have astrazeneca, you look at the level of effect it is not as high as the others, but there still is a utility to that. We have Johnson Johnson which is a single dose with less cold chain requirements. And we have novavax coming in which is a different type of a plartferral, mainly a soluble protein. If we want to get people in the United States who need to be vaccinated vaccination were going to need multiple candidates. What people always talk about is this one a winner or is this one a loser, as long as the efficacy was in the range that we want and its safe, its good news. Not only for the United States but for the rest of the world because these are companies not only going to make doses for us in the United States, theyre going to make doses for virtually anybody in the world. So when i hear another company come in, get approved, get those vaccines out, good for them. Thats great news. Thats what we need. The more the merrier. Dr. Fauci, when i was working for senator Daniel Patrick moynihan in the senate i heard him say more than once to people who were temporarily coming into government for a couple of years to serve in an administration. He would sometimes say, well, theres no sense getting involved in this if youre not going to stick with it for 30 years. Youre someone whos done that. Youve stuck with it for 52 years, and i have to ask you why because that isver a very uncom career choice for physicians or for anyone in Public Service. Why have you dedicated your life to this . Well, first of all, basic and Clinical Biomedical Research is one of the most exciting things you can do if, in fact, it suits you. And it suits me, and i love it. The enormity of the problem is a stimulus, its electrifying. When you look at all the good that you can do and if you go back decades and decades even though ive been doing it for 52 years, it started in earnest with my ability to do leadership things when i start would the institute 36 years ago, but that was in the early years of hiv. And when you look at all the things weve been able to do with hiv going from a disease which was uniformally fatal to develop drugs that now have been not only lifesaving but allowed people to live essentially normal lives, to be able to address outbreaks like ebola and zika and the pandemic flu. And now to have science come to the rescue with covid19 because were going to end this terrible scourge were going through by vaccines. And vaccines are the result of fundamental, basic and Clinical Research which led to the vaccines. So to me thats ample reason why ive been doing it for 52 years. Dr. Fauci, i always say to my own personal doctors and nurses, ill never be able to thank you enough. And i know im speaking for millions of americans when i say to you tonight we will never be able to thank you enough. And im so honored to be able to tell you that at the end of this difficult year that weve all been through and have done better with thanks to your guidance. Dr. Anthony fauci, thank you very much for joining us tonight and for everything youve done this year and every year in your career. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you. And coming up, it is now Mitch Mcconnell versus everyone in america who needs more financial help to survive the coronavirus pandemic. John heilemann joins us next. And later in the hour neal katyal will explain what a pointless political stunt it is for senator joshua holly to say he will object to the Electoral College vote when it is presented to the United States Senate Next Week. Is esented to the United States Senate Next Week tual. They customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Wow. 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So maybe my colleague, the majority leader, might want to get on the phone and Start Talking to working families in kentucky and find out how they feel about the need for immediate help in terms of a 2,000 check for adults. Tonight the only thing standing between people in kentucky getting 2,000 in relief payments is their senior senator, Mitch Mcconnell. Joining us now is john heilemann, executive eder oter of the recount, host of the hell and highwater podcast and msnbc National Affairs analyst. John, how is this playing out politically . Well, lawrence, i think, you know, the most important thing in politics right now are the two Georgia Senate runoff elections on january 5th. I know youve been focused on them like a laser since november 3rd, really. And i think in any conventional analysis given the distribution of votes in november and the general tendency of runoff elections you would have said that republicans were more likely than not to win both of those races. And what has happened over the course of the last 7, 8 weeks has been a conspiracy of stupidity on the part of donald trump, crazy, crazy conservative activists and lawyers with Mitch Mcconnell to do everything in their power to fight the trends that favor the republicans in georgia and have given the two candidates in georgia of winning those races in georgia on the fact the republicans cannot get out of their own way. And all three of those forces, donald trump, Mitch Mcconnell and the nutty right, the Conspiracy Theory right have all basically taken actions in this period that have done everything they can to depress republican turnout and drive democratic turnout in georgia. And i cant imagine look, im not predicting what the outcome will be, but i can say how republicans have been shooting themselves not just in the foot but the head and stomach and heart and Mitch Mcconnells move is the most recent of those. What were seeing Mitch Mcconnell do does seem like a preview what joe biden will face from republicans in the senate next year. Lets listen to what Chuck Schumer said about it today. After all the insanity that Senate Republicans have tolerated from president trump, his attacks on the rule of law, an independent judiciary, the conduct that led to his impeachment. Is this where Senate Republicans are going to draw the line . 2,000 checks to the American People . That is a bridge too far . Please. John, as soon as donald trump is leaving the presidency the republicans in the senate suddenly discover theres a deficit and they care about the deficit suddenly. Yeah. And what weve heard, lawrence, for months from Mitch Mcconnell as hes tried to resist further assistance to american suffering in this economy and suffering from covid, what we heard from him for months was were not going to try to push a more generous bill out of the senate because i know donald trump will never sign such a bill. Ive talked to donald trump, im in touch with donald trump. Theres no point in Senate Republicans passing a bill donald trump will not sign. What has happened now with trump sabotaging the bill the way he did and putting the 2,000 payment on the table, its revealed the extent Mitch Mcconnell has not only acting in good faith but not acting on the basis what he thinks donald trump will sign. We already know what hell sign and still Mitch Mcconnell doesnt want to pass this bill. I think youre 100 right just how poisance and difficult the environment is going to be for joe biden. I think thats true whether the democrats have a 5050 with Vice President harris as a tie breaking vote, whether theyre in that position or a narrow minority. Either way Mitch Mcconnell is announcing right now hes going to be obstructionist, difficult to deal with. And its not going to be any different. We know Mitch Mcconnell. Hes told us who we are and hes telling us again. Let me see if i get Donald Trumps pitch to voters on monday straight because donald trump is going on monday as is joe biden, last day of the campaign before the election. Donald trump is going to go to georgia on monday. Hes going to say elect these two republican senators who now suddenly say they agree with me that you should get 2,000 checks. Elect them so that they can keep Mitch Mcconnell as the majority leader who will prevent you from getting 2,000 checks . Yes, its madness. Its madness, lawrence. Ill say i actually dont know that i necessarily know what it is donald trump is going to do on monday. I think hes a total wild card in this scenario. And i think that argument you just laid out would be the logically consistent but obviously illogical piece of politics he would have to put forward if he was describing the situation honestly. But exactly what he does, the extent in which he tries to boot in the mcconnell while maybe trying to help these Georgia Senate incumbents, or he could just decide at the last minute to blow the whole thing up. I would not bet a dime on what comes out of Donald Trumps mouth on monday and whether it hurts or helps the cause of anyone other than we know it will be in some way in the furtherance of what donald trump thinks his best interest is. And that may be going back to conspiracy theorizing ability brian kemp, talking about the election being rigged. It could easily go that way knowing that trump only cares at this point about himself. And his selfinterest may not align with either Mitch Mcconnell or with the two Georgia Republican incumbents down there, Kelly Loeffler and david perdue. John heilemann, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Happy new year, lawrence. Thank you. Happy new year, john. Coming up next, at least one republican senator will start his president ial campaign on the senate floor next week by objecting to joe biden and Kamala Harris Electoral College victory. Neal katyal will explain the legal idiocy of that stunt. Next. Sanctuary music kids laughing upbeat tempo sanctuary music its the final days of the wish list sales event sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first months payment. Five blades and a pivotingglide flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. So youre ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face. And ask your doctor about biktarvy. 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The Electoral College votes locking in joe bidens victory in the president ial election will be delivered to Congress Next week on january 6th. Congress will accept that Electoral College vote, but not before missouri senator joshua holly launches his campaign for the 2024 republican president ial nomination on the senate floor on january 6th. Senator holly announced today that he will, quote, object during the certification process on january 6 to raise these Critical Issues. And the Critical Issues that senator holly raised in a press release today include election laws in pennsylvania and the wicked unfairness of facebook and twitter. Nothing senator holly does on january 6 will stop the congress from accepting Electoral College results, but it will allow senator holly to make a speech on the senate floor during a process that does not usually include speeches by senators. The only suspense between now and then is how many other republican senators will decide to launch their president ial campaigns exactly the same way on the senate floor on january 6th. Joining us now to once again consider ridiculous legal questions that are beneath the scholarly dignity of a law professor is neal katyal. Professor katyal is a former acting u. S. Solicitorgeneral and now an msnbc legal contributor. And neal, it is in your role as an msnbc legal contributor you have addressed some of the most preposterous legal notions in American History just this year all from republicans, and here is the latest. Guide us through what is supposed to happen on january 6th and what senator holly imagines might happen. Okay, so first of all, lawrence, let me just say that was an extraordinary interview with dr. Fauci. You answered so many questions he answered so many questions we all have that havent been asked before. And i was so glad you asked them. It was an extraordinary interview of an extraordinary public servant, and you did quite a Public Service in doing that tonight. So january 6th is supposed to be very simple. Literally the Vice President of the 12th amendment of the electoral count down is to open up the certified votes from each state. These have been certified by the governor and the like under their state processes, and then give them to a group of tellers who are supposed to tabulate them. Now, what senator holly is proposing is that the Vice President and he can object, and there can be debate whether who won the election. And at the end of it that he and his republican colleagues supposedly somehow get to decide who actually won the election. And to call this nonsense, lawrence, is very mean to the word nonsense. 59 different courts have evaluated these claims. Theyve all rejected them across the country. Many of them have been opinions written by trumps own appointees to the federal courts. The fbi has rejected it. Bill barr, his attorney general, has rejected it. Mitch mcconnell has rejected it. But now josh holly, a senator comes and says i know better. And why does he claim he knows better . Because he says theres a study done by a Pennsylvania State legislator who has a cpa and therefore knows data. And, you know, that guy took incomplete data and tried to say theres a discrepancy. And im sure the guy has a cpa and maybe that makes him qualified to be trumps tax accountant given the ignorance of data, but i dont think thats enough. And thats what the pennsylvania secretary of state said today, youre looking at incomplete data. And even if they make this objection on january 6th and holly goes ahead, all that would mean is that the house and senate separately have to deliberate on the objection. And they both would have to agree to throw out the votes of any particular state under the electoral count down. The chances of that happening with a Democratic House is zero. So in the end you have to feel bad for the great state of missouri because imagine youre trading in this phenomenal senator you have in Claire Mccaskill and you get Tucker Carlsons insecure younger brother. Good job, missouri. The function that the Vice President has here, hes the president of the senate. And so he basically is the minister of these kinds of things in the senate. As you said its the same function that the Vice President has but usually delegates to any senator who takes his place when hes not there basically. On a vote in a senate, when they vote on a bill in the senate, they count the votes down there at the clerks desk and then they hand a piece of paper up to the president of the senate. And the president of the senate reads those numbers. The vote was 52 yeas, 48 nays. The president of the senate is not allowed to change those numbers hes handed. This is exactly the same thing, isnt it . Exactly. I wrote this in what i wrote for the New York Times yesterday. Its true the Vice President presides over the count but that is to ensure decorum and order. What these republicans are saying basically is the dude at the oscars who opens up the envelope and says who won best picture, that person gets to decide who won best picture. Of course not. Were in a democracy. Its you and me and the 300 million plus other americans who decide on our destiny, not josh holly. So we are not going to have a warren batie, fay dawnoway moment. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. And again, im sorry we have to bring your intelligence down to the republican legal gutter to analyze their latest tricks. Thank you very much for doing it for us once again. And when we come back, the final drama of the Election Year will come next week in georgia, georgias Democratic Senate candidate jon ossoff joins us next. 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Joe biden and donald trump will be campaigning against each other once again on monday in georgia where joe biden will be urging georgia voters to vote for Democratic Senate candidates Raphael Warnock and jon ossoff. And donald trump will be campaigning for georgias republican senators reelection campaigns and probably attacking the republican georgia governor while hes at it. Today jon ossoff released this new campaign ad. You can send jon ossoff to the senate to beat this virus and rebuild our economy, to make sure everybody can afford health care and to carry the torch john lewis passed to us with the new Voting Rights act that secures equal justice for all. Georgia, you have the power. And now its time to vote. Joining us now Georgia Democratic candidate for United States senate jon ossoff. Thank you for joining us once again tonight. The campaign now is down to these final days. What is the most important element of the campaign now . Is it the tv advertising which must be virtually every commercial on Georgia Television at this point for one candidate or the other . Is it getting out thereinto real contact with voters . Hey, lawrence, good evening. Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure to see you. Thanks for the opportunity. Look, it is Movement Level energy right now in georgia. Something special is happening in this state right now. We are shattering turnout records. Young voters are shattering alltime records for participation in a runoff election. Black voters are shattering alltime records for participation in a runoff election. Youve got two disciples of congressman john lewis, one white, one black, raising the new south to eject from their thrones these two pandemic profiteers, david perdue and Kelly Loeffler. My number one concern is these attacks on Voting Rights in georgia. Theyre trying to disenfranchise black voters as we speak. Theyve filed lawsuit after lawsuit to purge the rolls, to remove ballot drop boxes. It is the new jim crow. It must be opposed with everything we have. And im urging folks watching across the country to recommit to victory here and Voting Rights in georgia. Visit electjon. Com and chip in 3 right now to help us defend Voting Rights, win the u. S. Senate and open a new and brighter chapter in American History. Your opponent senator perdue whos had an open invitation on this program. Hes never used that invitation. He now says and she now says theyre completely in support of 2,000 per person in relief checks going out, and yet they voted for the 600 version with Mitch Mcconnell, and they do not object to Mitch Mcconnell objecting to and blocking the 2,000 payments. Well, point one is div david perl due should come on your show. I went on fox today. I dont know why david perdue is afraid of coming on msnbc. Point two Mitch Mcconnell must move 2,000 checks through the senate. If they were serious on that policy theyd be calling on the majority leader and minority leader to advance the house bill. This is why David Perdues supporters dont respect him anymore. The guy turns on a dime. Hes telling republican establishment donors behind closed doors donald trump cost them in georgia while hes pretending in georgia and pretending in public this guy actually won. This guy is phony. Hes in it for the money. He wants to hold onto this position to keep profiting from it. He doesnt have courage in his convictions, has no core beliefs and losing the faith of even his most ardent supporters here. But if he had the people in min send 2,000 to every american because folks have credit card bills that are way over max, prescription drugs they cant afford, car payments that are past due, light bills piling up. Child care they cant afford. The people need help and the Senate Must Pass help for the people and if this senate will not then the new senate with reverend warnock and i in attendance will pass direct stimulus relief in just a few weeks. Former georgia politician Newt Gingrich agrees with you on this, thinks Mitch Mcconnell is wrong to be blocking the legislation that would ensure that 2,000 checks. Lets listen to what he said about this i really am very worried that if he plays a clever parliamentary game it may look good inside the senate but could cost us two senate seats and control of the senate. I would beg him to bring up the 2,000 payment as a free standing, independent vote. Clearly, Mitch Mcconnell is not listening to Newt Gingrich and Newt Gingrich knows a little more about georgia politics than Mitch Mcconnell does. You know what is so sick about that . He is right that the Senate Must Act to send money to people but is Newt Gingrich saying the senate should act because people are suffering and need help . No. He is saying the senate should act just for cynical, short term political reasons. Its about time that we elected people in this country who had a heart for the people. Who werent just thinking about an election in five days. Who dont just support help for working families when they have to face the voters but are thinking about working families at all times. Who arent working to rip Voting Rights away from the very people they represent. We lost john lewis this year. We can honor his memory by winning these two races in georgia. Im asking everybody to help us defend Voting Rights here. Help us get out the vote here. Help us win these elections and turn the page on these four years of hatred, racism, total dysfunction. We have good work to do helping people. Im asking folks to go to elect jon. Com and help us now. 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