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They both have just experience that no one else in their experience has ever had in dealing with the white house and in dealing with a pandemic. Fascinating. Get to it, lawrence. I want to hear it. Thank you, rachel. Well, people are voting. The lines are long. People continue to show up to vote in record numbers in early voting all over the country. People are social distancing in those lines as they wait to vote. Because they know that the country is in the grip of a pandemic. And there is some risk to their health and their lives by going to a polling place. And they know that the president of the United States is doing absolutely nothing about that. They know that the president of the United States has allowed all of the economic support systems for people suffering in this pandemic to expire and they know that the president has never even attempted to design a National Plan for dealing with this Public Health crisis that affects everyone in this country. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has a plan. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has a plan. They will both be joining our discussion here tonight. They have been working every day to try to deal with the Public Health and economic effects of the coronavirus pandemic. But the biggest problem theyve had is trying on deal with a president who just doesnt get it. Donald trump doesnt get it to the point that he actually got it. He got the coronavirus. And his wife got coronavirus. And we learned today that his High School Age son who lives in the white house got the coronavirus. The people in those lines to vote know that donald trump is incapable of protecting them from the coronavirus just as he is incapable of protecting his own family. There are 20 days for people to vote. Yesterday, on the first day of early voting in texas, 1 million texans cast their ballots. The Houston Chronicle reports Harris County by far had the biggest turnout on the first day with almost 170,000 ballots cast in person or through mailin voting as of wednesday morning. In 2016 Harris County had just under 130,000 ballots submitted on the first day. In florida, the republicans used to hold a slight advantage in absentee ballot returns. In florida elections. But this year that has changed. Politico reports for the First Time Ever at this stage of a general election, democrats are outvoting republicans and by a mammoth 384,000vote margin through tuesday. In ohio, early voters, early voting is three times higher than it was in 2016. The california secretary of state reports says more than 1. 5 million vote by mail ballots have already been returned by california voters. Thats ten times higher than it was four years ago in california. Another day means another National Poll with joe biden ten points ahead. An economist poll shows joe biden at 52 to Donald Trumps 42 nationwide. In north carolina, a state donald trump won four years ago, a New York Times poll of likely voters has joe biden ahead of donald trump by 4 points, 4642. And new hampshire, a state that Hillary Clinton won by less than 1 of the vote. A Suffolk University poll of likely voters has joe biden ahead of donald trump by ten points now. 5141. And in ohio, a mustwin state for republicans, a quinnipiac poll of likely voters has joe biden ahead of donald trump by 1 point, 4847. And in georgia, the quinnipiac poll of likely voters has donald trump behind by 7 points. 5144. Thats the strongest poll for joe biden yet in georgia. Donald trump went to iowa to campaign because he is in desperate trouble in iowa. A state that he won by ten points four years ago. The latest iowa pole of likely voters shows joe biden tied with donald trump at 49 . The New York Times reports that polling data shows joe biden is building a formidable coalition of voters. Democrats agonized over whether their best path to the presidency was to lure back the White Working Class voters who defected to the president , or to increase turnout among democratic voters who may have stayed home or supported Minor Party Candidates like jill stein. The survey suggests that biden is succeeding on both fronts by at once peeling off a modest but crucial sliver of the president s former supporters, and benefitting from a significant advantage among voters who either backed a minor Party Candidate four years ago or didnt vote at all. Democratic Vice President ial candidate senator Kamala Harris used her final moments in Todays Supreme Court confirmation hearing to make this point. These proceedings, i believe, lack legitimacy in the eyes of the people of our country. Americans are right now suffering from a deadly pandemic and we are also suffering an historic economic crisis. The senate should be working day and night to provide Economic Relief to families and not rushing in a Supreme Court confirmation. We are also in the middle of an election. More than 12 million americans have already voted. The American People want whomever wins this election to fill this seat. The senate should be working day and night to provide Economic Relief to families, says senator harris. Sounds obvious. But the United States senate is literally doing nothing. Mitch mcconnell has put the senate in recess. House Speaker Pelosi passed a 3 trillion relief package through the house of representatives on may 15th. Like all legislation that passes the house, it was delivered to the United States senate, where Mitch Mcconnell would not even look at it. Wouldnt even discuss it. Speaker pelosi then engaged in negotiations with Donald Trumps treasury secretary, steven mnuchin, because donald trump is afraid of dealing directly with nancy pelosi since this moment in the white house in the white house cabinet room humiliated donald trump. Donald trump lives in fear of another moment like that, caught by a photographer. But past president s have frequently left legislative negotiations to cabinet members. And so things were moving slowly but least they were moving when last week donald trump on twitter declared an absolute end to any negotiations on providing any relief to any americans suffering in this unprecedented crisis. Donald trump shut it all down completely and the stock market immediately crashed. So donald trump, like the drunk driver of washington negotiations, started swerving back into the traffic. And by friday, donald trump told rush limbaugh, quote, i would like to see a bigger stimulus package, frankly, than either the democrats or the republicans are offering. And that of course was a complete lie and the white house immediately put out a statement correcting the president and saying, no, no, no, we want a much smaller package than nancy pelosi wants. The only person who has created any Serious Movement in these negotiations is Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has moved down from her comprehensive package of 3 trillion of aid that she passed in the may to a current proposal of 2. 2 trillion of desperately needed aid. The treasury secretary has a counterproposal of 1. 8 trillion which uses the money very differently from the way Speaker Pelosis proposal uses the money. That might seem like bridgeable gap. Especially if you look at nothing but the numbers and completely ignore the underlying policy differences, as the washington media always does. 2. 2 trillion. 1. 8 trillion. Maybe they could meet in the middle. Thats the conventional wisdom. Because thats what washington usually does. But it is not up to Speaker Pelosi and the treasury secretary. In the end, it has to be a threeway negotiation that includes the United States senate and Mitch Mcconnells offer began at nothing. Zero. Thats what Mitch Mcconnell said he was willing to do while nancy pelosi was negotiating. And now Mitch Mcconnell has come all the way up to 500 billion. He wants less than onethird what the white house wants. And in the face of that negotiating dynamic, there are members of the news media who have never, ever been in the room during legislative negotiations, who have never, ever worked on legislation involving hundreds of billions of dollars in tax provisions and spending provisions designed to help tens of millions of people, and they have negotiating advice for nancy pelosi. Ive been in those rooms. I was in those rooms many times when i was the chief of staff for the Senate Finance committee. But washington is filled with people who have no idea what it is like to work on even one provision of legislation like that. Never mind the whole package. And suddenly they have negotiating advice for the speaker of the house. And they dont have a word to say to Mitch Mcconnell, who is literally laughing off the whole idea of doing anything for anyone who is suffering in this pandemic. Here is Democratic Senate democratic candidate amy mcgrath debating Mitch Mcconnell on monday. The house passed a bill in may. And the senate went on vacation. I mean, you just dont do that. You negotiate. Senator, it is a national crisis. You knew that the coronavirus wasnt going to end at the end of july. We knew this. I mean, i just think, youve got to heres the thing. If you want to call yourself a leader. If you want to call yourself a leader, you got to get things done. Those of us who served in the marines, we dont just point fingers at the other side. We get the job done. Joining us now, the representative from the 12th congressional district, the 52nd speaker of the house of representatives and in that constitutionally established office, nancy pelosi is second in the line of succession for the presidency. Speaker pelosi, thank you very much for joining us tonight. And i think you could just hear that as amy mcgrath was explaining to kentucky that Mitch Mcconnell has done absolutely nothing, the only entry he made in the debate transcript there was his laughter. Thats all he had to say about it was to laugh about the situation. Its remarkable, hearing him laugh there. It was so heartbreaking. Because it reminded me when we passed the bill when he said, lets take a pause. Lets take a pause. Let the states go bankrupt. Hes never taken this seriously. Probably the most honest thing hes done is laugh in public about it to show his true colors. Its really so tragic. And then that was echoed today in something that secretary mnuchin said. Im not paying for pensions for the states. So this isnt about that. This is about a pandemic, in case you havent noticed. This is about a pandemic where we are trying to compensate the states for the money that they spent on the pandemic and the revenue that they lost. Thats one thing that the president , theyve all just ignored. The president said, im not paying blue states. They havent taken it seriously. And what is sad about this is, we could come to an agreement and we need to come to an agreement. You know this because you have been there. They had in the c. A. R. E. S. Act something that made everybody swallow. A big 150 billion tax giveaway to the wealthiest people in america. And yet when we want to make good on an expanded benefit for those who are unemployed, they say we cant afford it. So coming into this negotiation from c. A. R. E. S. To h. E. R. O. E. S. , we said, lets get rid of that net operating cost. It could be more of a tax break for the rich. And lets put an earned income tax cut for the poorest families in america. For our poor children. Theyre losing their jobs through no fault of their own, their parents. And we had an earned income tax credit that we thought they would respect until a few days ago. But no. They insist on having their net operating loss tax break for the wealthiest while they give zero to an earned income tax break. Very much different from president bush, as a matter of fact. When we were doing stimulus packages with president bush, he liked using the tax code to help people who needed help. And we had one of the best, barney frank said one of the most progressive tax bills ever because it addressed the needs of working families. The earned income tax credit. Speaker, you know that you lose a lot of people especially in the Washington News media when you start getting into the actual provisions. When all they want to talk about is 2. 2 versus 1. 8. And never think about what is actually in the legislation. But i want to highlight, because they occur in the Senate Finance committee, you have the earned income tax credit which benefits the lowest earners in america and it is an automatic system that helps fund them, that we know how to do. Weve been doing it for decades. And you have this new huge deduction. A huge deduction for rich people running rich companies. That the republicans want in legislation that is about Financial Aid in the coronavirus pandemic. And it seems impossible to get attention to what the republicans are actually asking for while at the same time, Mitch Mcconnell is saying, i would prefer to do absolutely nothing. Well, i appreciate you calling attention to it. It is not about the dollar amount. It is about the funding that it will go to. And if its underwriting tax cuts to the wealthiest, and dedriving it to the working, working low income people, its not fair at all. But lets see the issue for a moment. We all want to have an agreement. My message is out there. Help is on the way. We want it safer. We want it bigger, we want it better and it will be retroactive. We have to come to agreement. In order to solve the problem, we have to crush the virus. And they still cannot face reality. They laugh it off. And one other part of this, because everything weve done in there has had to meet the test. Is it coronavirus centric . Is it about this . Retroactive is not about the coronavirus. The other part of it is, when i say safely, we want to honor our heroes, state and local. We want to crush the virus, but we want to protect our workers as they go to work. It is heartbreaking for what it means to american families. If youre an essential worker, you have to go to work. If you dont, you dont get unemployment insurance. If you go to work and your employer has not taken precautions and you get the virus, you have no recourse. Thats the mcconnell language that he has in his bill. And that is a stumbling block. Were proposing a strong osha standard, but that doesnt work unless you get rid of the mcconnell provision, its so beyond covid. But nonetheless, it negates any regulation that you might put in there under osha. So worker safety is not for us, a provision in a bill. It is a value in our country. It is a value in our country. And they just do not respect that. So the disdain that they have for the state and local, the contempt that they have for science by not wanting to have a National Strategic plan, again, the unfairness when it comes to americas workers, it is a tough nut to crack. Still and all, we want to try to find our Common Ground. And we say to each other, the secretary and i say to each other, if we didnt really want to find an agreement, we wouldnt even be talking to each other. Frankly, from my standpoint, we do not have shared values. But there is a practical need. Now, you know from your experience that if we give, send a check to people, people say thats what they need. Thats what they should have. The price that we have to pay as a society, as an economy is net operating loss. No clear plan to crush the virus. Disrespect for our heroes, our health care workers, first responders, transportation, teachers, teachers, teachers. And then about our children. About the fact that we still havent seen how they would spend the education money which is too little. And thats one difference in the money, too little for our children. And again, associated with that is that they would not come close to our number on the child care. Child care is a key, especially in this time of coronavirus. Because parents, moms or dads, cannot go to work if children cannot to go school unless theres childcare. You would think they would use this opportunity for childcare. But they say were asking for too much money. We dont think that is needed. So again, it is not shared values. But nonetheless, a common purpose which is to crush the virus. Let me say one more thing. Ive been hearing this all day. I met with the secretary this morning virtually. Then i had five zooms and now here i am. And on those calls people say, i think they do have a plan for the coronavirus. It is herd immunity. Thats why they dont want to put the resources where it needs to be. Where science tells us it has to go. So tomorrow im hoping to get better language back on how we crush the virus. The virus is the cause of it all and yet they dont want to treat the cause. They just want to deal with some of the consequences of it. It is really quite tragic. But nonetheless, weve had four bills, bipartisan, all along the way. Weve been able to work with secretary mnuchin on the mexico u. S. canada trade agreement. Weve been able to work on bills on a number of occasions and i hope that we can soon find Common Ground so that as soon as possible, we can honor our heroes, crush the virus, and again put money in the pockets of the American People of theyre not with us on the democracy in terms of election funding and the census and thats most unfortunate as well. But thats still part of the conversation. Speaker pelosi, i could talk to you all night about what is actually in this legislation. Weve just touched the tip of the iceberg. I just urge people to read what is actually in Speaker Pelosis bill that she passed. The proposal shes made and from the white house and the zero proposal for Mitch Mcconnell. Hour Speaker Nancy Pelosi, im confident based on the way youve represented it. That you and the treasury secretary could work something out. The problem is you have the president behind the treasury secretary who changes his mind every day, every hour. 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I told them as i told the president that the tests were being double by the hospitals and when they were complete, they would be sent to the fda. Meadows then communicated to me that the federal government was about to send out funding for hospitals and strongly implied that if the tests werent completed, new york wouldnt receive any funding. I dont mind exaggeration or expletives but i draw the line at extortion. Joining us now is the governor of the great state of new york. Governor cuomo, thank you for joining us. We just listened to nancy pelosi discussing the unprecedented difficulties of dealing with the Trump White House. What i just read, what is basically extortion, we want the the stuff on hydroxychloroquine as soon as we can get it so donald trump can throw it around in his next press conference. What was that like dealing with that at the height of the pandemic in new york state . Yeah, no, thank you, lawrence. It was emblematic of the way they do business. First its amazing when you think back how wrong they were about hydroxychloroquine. The president was running around and all his supporters in the white house. If you listened to them, it would it cure covid. It would grow hair. It would promote sleep. It was the cureall, right . It was just the perfect metaphor of the snake oil salesman. And they were sure it was going to work and they wanted the results from the new York Hospitals that were participating in an fda test. And the chief of staff to the president said, and i was kind in the book, but made it clear they wanted to test. They wanted it right away. Or he wouldnt forward the funding that was in the c. A. R. E. S. Act. Now, as you know well, the budget laws are laws. Theyre not subject to the discretion and the political whim of the president. But everything with them was personal. No respect for government. No respect for the rule of law. No respect for the institution. And it was all personal. It was all about their public relations. Always. It was fascinating to watch from this distance in the way you were trying to manage with donald trump. You would go to the white house and have private meetings with him. Sometimes criticizing him in your news conferences, sometimes not. I want to read a passage from page 192. This takes us inside the world that we were watching on television. It says, if you listen to President Trump he will tell you what he needs. He doesnt hide his neurosis. When he said he needed gratitude, he was exposing his insatiable need for affirmation. If he needed affirmation, it meant he couldnt take criticism. My weapon was to criticize his failure and neglect. I did it often and loudly. He hated criticism and couldnt handle it. And this caused him to deliver more for new york that he would have otherwise received. So part of your strategy was, if i criticize him here, then ive got a negotiating position to in effect tone it down if he delivers something. Yes. And look, lawrence, you know the federal government better than i. But i was a cabinet secretary during clintons time. When have you ever heard of a national emergency, a National Pandemic where the federal government has no role . Where the president says im going to delegate total responsibility to the 50 states. 50 states have to go scramble and buy ppe. 50 states have to do testing. 50 states have to put together an International Supply chain. A state cant do that. You needed the resources of the federal government. The federal government had the defense production act. New york needed the federal government. And i needed to deal with this white house and this president. Now, his personality, frankly, is so extreme and needy, its transparent. He wanted affirmation. Graciousness is the word they would use. And on the other hand he couldnt stand criticism. And as governor of new york, i have a podium also. I have a microphone also. And my job was to deliver for the people of the state. And i tried every way i could, up and down. At the end of the day, they were just in denial about the virus. That was their political tact from day one. It still is their political tact. Do you see it, with the president , the way he handled the disease now, you see the way theyre handling it with Speaker Pelosi. The next piece of legislation. The virus doesnt exist. They dont recognize it, they dont recognize that it needs to be treated. And by the way, god bless Speaker Pelosi to have the patience to keep going back and fighting this fight. But i would like to know what they think will happen. Covid isnt gone. The numbers are going up. The fall is here. And even once we get to a vaccine, lawrence, how long will it take and who will administer 300 million doses of a vaccine . I mean, we have months more to do. 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You worry that your daughter might have been exposed because her mother might have been exposed because a friend of hers was infected. You worry about your mother matilda and im worried about all of them as im reading this and trying to figure out how you juggle your daily duties with your public duties. Let me ask you for voters in america. If could you talk to voters in iowa tonight, which you can, through this program, what would you tell them to think about in terms of their future in this pandemic is this as they cast their votes for president . Yeah. I think the sad fact is that they understand it. You look at ohio, you look at the high infection rate there. Covid is not done with us. We may have covid fatigue but covid is getting stronger. And this road is not over. We have many more months. We then have a vaccine. You will see continued outbursts and outbreaks of this virus as we go forward. This is a federal administration that has never acknowledged the problem let alone come up with a plan. They are willing to let 70,000, 80,000 people more die just because they wont say wear a mask. What does that say about their sense of humanity and decency . They were never prepared to govern and theyre not prepared to govern now. And this is a time when this nation needs government to work. It is a moment of transition. Never has government been as relevant. Leadership matters. Competence matters. Government can actually be the matter between your life and your death right now. It is that serious. And the president has shown himself for who he is. The president s problem in this election is the American People know him, lawrence. They know him. Theyve seen his soul. And that is why hes going to lose on election day. Governor, knowing what you know now, what youve learned from what you got right, things you got wrong in the first wave of this, what are your expectations for how new york and how you will handle a possible second wave as winter closes in on new york state . Well, what happened in new york was, we were ambushed. The president talked about the china virus, china virus, china virus. Wasnt the china virus. It was the european virus. The virus was in china last december. Somehow this federal government thought the virus would just stay in china. It got a plane and went to europe. And the scientists have traced that had the virus that came to new york and much of the eastern seaboard actually came from italy, france, and spain. So it was here for three months before they ever told us. But we were left on our own. We scrambled. We put together our hospital system. We procured ppe. Were now doing more testing than any state in the United States. So we will never be caught unprepared again the way we were. But this is a constant battle. Dont kid yourself. Were now fighting it literally block by block, lawrence. We had that level of testing. But youre going to see people continue to get sick and hospitalized and youre going to continue to see people die, unfortunately. That is the truth. And i hope for a vaccine more than anyone else. Or as much as anyone else. But even once you get the vaccine, is it safe . Will people take it . How long does it take you to administer 300 million vaccines . And who will do it . This federal government . That couldnt buy a mask and a gown . Theyre now going to vaccinate the entire country . And how long does it take . And how many more outbreaks will there be in the meantime . And how long until there is the next virus . Because, lawrence, if covid was developed in china today, covid two, developing in a wet market in china today, this federal government would be no better prepared than it was last december. And that is the frightening truth. Theyve learned nothing from the experience. Governor andrew cuomo. His new book is leadership lessons from the covid19 pandemic. A book unlike anything ever written by a governor before because no one has lived through and managed the crisis that he has. Governor cuomo, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. Thank you for what you do. God bless you, lawrence. When we come back, just 20 days until election day. David plouffe is here. Thats next. But today theres a combination of two immunotherapies you can take first. One that could mean. A chance to live longer. Opdivo plus yervoy is for adults newly diagnosed with nonsmall cell lung cancer that has spread and that tests positive for pdl1 and does not have an abnormal egfr or alk gene. 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Donald trump has been almost singularly focused on the stock market, the dow, the nasdaq not you, not your families. My plan will help create at least five million new, goodpaying jobs and create them right here in the United States of america. Lets use this opportunity to take bold investments in american industry and innovation. So the future is made in america. Ill be laser focused on working families. Im joe biden, and i approve this message. Most of the people who are switching the party they voted for for president in 2016 are switching from republican to democrat. From donald trump to joe biden. Thats according to a New York Times survey of voters in six battleground states including iowa, the times reports, alone these switches would be enough to give mr. Biden a fairly comfortable victory. Heres joe biden during a Virtual Campaign event tonight. In this crisis we have enormous opportunity to build back a better future. Thats what america always does. So please, get everyone you know to vote. Friends, families, colleagues, the whole community. We cant let anyone think their voices dont count. The American People will decide this election and define our future. The American People, you. There is not a single thing we cant do when we do it together. Joining us now, the White House Correspondent for the pbs newshour, yamiche alcinder, and David Plouffe, former Senior Adviser to barack obama. The host of the Campaign Hq Podcast and both are msnbc political analysts. Yamiche, at this point, the question becomes, does donald trump have secret polls of secret voters that tell a different story than what is being told in every other poll that comes out every day . It does not seem that way. I will tell you, when i speak to Trump Campaign officials, they essentially say they believe the polls are not capturing all the voters. Their idea is that were all living in 2016 all over again and there will be a miracle surprise event at the end of the month, and in the beginning of november that will help President Trump win these voters. When you look at what the president is saying, you hear a president who is very concerned with two key groups. Seniors as well as women. The fact that he came out and said, suburban women, wont you just like me . And he also released this video talking to seniors specifically. It tells you hes in trouble with those two groups. Im in florida reporting. I have talked to a lot of people who voted for him in 2016. Thought he was brash and new. And then when they saw his handling of the coronavirus, all of that changed because so many people have died and now the president is having to contend with the people that took a chance on him dont think they will do that same chance again. David, what are you seeing in the new polling information and the dynamics of the race as of tonight that we need to focus on . Well, first of all, lawrence, a lot of people are voting. Over 15 Million People have voted. So every day when joe biden has a lead, and there is a lot more polling of battleground states than there was last time. We have a lot more data. And its not just theyre trump obama voters but given bidens strength with seniors, and with suburban women, hes getting people that voted for romney and mccain, so hes adding to that. Its not just the traditional trump obama voter. So what im seeing is these rallies that trump was doing. He was in iowa tonight. He was in pennsylvania yesterday. These are advertisements that the Biden Campaign would pay for, lawrence, the visuals, huge crowds, nobody wearing masks, trump not really having a coherent, compelling message. We say theres 20 days until election day. The election is happening now. Thats when the election ends. So i think every day that passes with so many people voting, that puts trump at a disadvantage. So i dont think trump has magic supporters in terms of his vote share. The question is, is his turnout game going to be so much stronger than biden . Does he surprise people with an historic turnout . And we really wont know that answer until votes start to get unpacked on election night. Joe biden has said that barack obama is going to be going out on the trail. Lets listen to what president obama said on the podcast pod save america today. He was always the guy in every meeting who asked, hows this helping regular folks . You know, the whole aspect of him about scranton and, you know, getting on the amtrak and talking to the conductors and knowing their names and, you know, wanting to spend as much time as possible with voters and just hear about their lives and identifying with the ordinary daytoday struggles of the American People, thats not a schtick, you know. Thats who he is. Yamiche, joe biden has president obama to go out on the campaign trail. Who does donald trump have . Well, President Trump has said over and over again the person that he really relies on to get people excited about his nomination, about his presidency, about his another four years pitch is himself. Hes said that over and over again. He said that when he was running against Hillary Clinton saying she had all these different people, all these different stars, that i had donald trump. So this is someone who will continue to rely on his instincts. His political gut. He doesnt really trust a lot of people who were running for the hills when they thought President Trump was going to lose. That being said, you have to also remember that the president here is pitching this idea that he can get four more years because he knows whats best for america. In the Biden Campaign, they are making the case that hes not a decent man. When you hear president obama say that Vice President biden cares about people, thats who he is. I heard that from voters today. Voters are telling me, i really think joe biden cares about me. He understands. Hes lost his children. He lost his wife. He understands what it means to have a Family Member die. And i think thats somebody who will trust and move forward through this pandemic in a way that will keep families at the center of what hes thinking. Thats part of joe bidens pitch. And its really sticking with the voters ive talked to here in florida. I have to squeeze in one more commercial break. Well be back on the campaign and the election right after this commercial. Still a father. But now a friend. Still an electric car. Just more electrifying. Still a night out. But everything fits in. Still hard work. Just a little easier. Still a legend. Just more legendary. Chevrolet. Making lifes journey, just better. 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What do you make of that . Well, its highly encouraging, lawrence. I think both of you want to see biden win, but also for our country. You know, looking at this early vote turnout and suggesting it could mean were going north of 150, maybe 160 million turnout. I would have a cautionary note, though. We need some more days to happen here. We know people are excited to vote early. If this continues, obviously we had a big turnout on day one and day two. We have to see it if continues. And then of course you really cant relax until election day because do you get what you need on election day even if the early vote is shattering records. So you have got to run through the tape here. And the one thing ive been consistent about is, trump is going to get his turnout. So his high watermark is going to be quite high. Joe biden, i think, has more than enough swing voters to win, but hes got to make sure the turnout is good. Everything were seeing would be highly encouraging, but we have to see the rest of the early vote. Will there be a trough and how significant is it . And there will be a lot of votes still on election day, not just trump votes. So im cautiously optimistic, but i think we need to see more data. Yamiche, i wanted to ask you about Senior Citizen voters in florida, but the clock is ticking away on us and were out of time. Thank you both for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. Thank you, lawrence. That is tonights last word. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. Well, good evening once again. Day 1,364 of the trump administration. 20 days remain now until election day. Just as the pandemic is surging through our country, there are few states left on the map where the virus isnt on the rise, something Health Experts have warned us against consistently. Average daily cases just yesterday topped 50,000 for the first time in nearly two months. New reports out tonight say the head of the cdc believes small family gatherings are fueling this latest surge and had this warning about the upcoming holidays. Particularly with thanksgiving coming up, we think its really important to stress the vigilance of these continued its really important to stress the vigilance of these continued mitigation steps in the household setting. The state of iowa struggling with an increase in cases and hospitalizations. The Des Moines Register saying that of the tests reported since tuesday, over 21 were positive. And the president tonight chose iowa for his latest rally. The state has been under a Public Health emergency since the 17th of march. It requires that organizers of Mass Gatherings ensure at least six feet of physical distance between attendees. Obviously that wasnt happening. And again tonight masks were visible on those behind the president for the benefit of his headon camera angle. The rest of the crowd not so much

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