Lawrence. To compare what they learn from ron in your last 45 minutes of discussion to what theyve been hearing from Trump Administration officials, not the medical professionals but the actual white house staff because thats what ron was in the obama white house. He was in a position without medical many pexpertise but exp how to make government work, how to make arms of the government Work Together in a crisis like this and of course, he did pick up a great deal of expertise about this kind of situation and about the medical elements of this situation. I havent heard anyone from the Kellyanne Conways to the larry to the trump appointees that have command of this subject that ron has in one sentence. Not only the lack of command but the overt publicly excuse me, politically convenient disinformation. Kellyanne conway and cudlow saying this is airtight. The overt disinformation from the president on down has been is actually one of serious challenges that weve got as a country how to deal with this and i dont think anybody was under illusions they handled this well. I dont think were scenical enough to expect they would handle it so overtly badly they would be a problem we need to fix along the way. The basketball theme that went throughout your hour, its at least two weeks ago, maybe more an official at one of the really big basketball powers at the University Systems said to me he was very worried what this meant not just for College Basketball games with 20, 25,000 people watching them but what happens if one student in there is then tested and found to be i ill, what do you do about the 25,000 people in the arena. The nba has been thinking about it and its suspending. Its not necessarily ending. Perhaps suspending for 30 days. Perhaps the nba season will finish in august this year. We dont know. But this is really the first really big decision about limiting large groups of people in enclosed spaces. It feels like they hit it slamming into a wall. The nba was not exactly, you know, engaging with this possibility in a way that seemed particularly open minded but then you saw a bunch of things happen in very quick secession. You saw toni fauchi we dont believe americans should be in large crowds and if that means nba games should be played out audiences, so be it. In San Francisco the mayor institute a ban on gathering of a size that would exclude events like an arena full of people watching the Golden State Warriors play games. We saw this start to happen in individual locations and then in this thunder game tonight in oklahoma, it turns out a player from the utah jazz is perceived to potentially be positive. That apparently was a calamity at the oklahoma thunder stadium or arena tonight in Oklahoma City when they instituted at first a 30minute delay. Nobody there knew what it was for. Then they announced the game would be postponed and only after they announced the game would be postponed we found out the answer was about a player from that visiting team. So its i mean, it feels like were sort of stumbling through this but in the end, were coming to the same conclusion about cancelling large events now. Rachel, the idea of okay, the basketball games will be played without the audience in the arena, theres a real business to be done that way. The Television Side of the business, there is obviously still a very viable business to be done without the ticket sales, unless, unless a player contracts the virus. Which is where we are now. I mean, the amount of physical contact, you know, your hands cant touch your face. Well, you sure cant play basketball with other people if thats the case. And so all they needed was that one player and they just did what you would do, thinking about that one player project that out how long has that player been carrying this . How many other players in the nba has he actually literally touched in just, say, the last week . Those calculations as ron was saying, not everybody symptomatic getting tested but everybody that was a traced contact of anybody known to have the virus was getting tested and just wide spread surveillance testing within the population to see it in places we didnt know about, you could have a completely different conversation about the workplace risk to nba basketball players than our country where it is a mystery because the federal government, the Trump Administration blew it just absolutely blew it when it came to us having tests so were the biggest industrialized nation in the world dealing with a significant epidemic while flying blind with no information you need to take the first steps to make sure this is brought under control. Absolutely unconscionable. There is one more thing before you go and this developed during your hour, one of the breaking news elements of your hour. The president s ten minutes was a complete contradiction of everything the president had said publicly about this prior to his ten minutes tonight. Yeah. When he was telling people nothing to worry about. I think america tonight has a symbol, couple of big symbols about what there is to worry about with the nba suspending because of a player and that news of tom and rita hanks in australia. Tom hanks tweeting out tonight a very upbeat statement by tom hanks about him, himself being infected with the coronavirus and his wife rita and of course, tom hanks is going to put a very brave face on this, which he has done and i hope all of the positive feeling that he conveys in his text in his tweet how this is going is true. Im sure it is. But thats a real face now. Tom and rita hanks is a real thing, a real fact for americans to consider if it can happen to them, even though they are austin i australia, it can absolutely happen to anyone. I think thats the reality now through tom hanks that a lot of people might not have had without tom hanks announcement about this. For that to be happening while pl hamr. Hanks and his wie in australia which is where they are diagnosed which is key to learning this, thats why they were able to get diagnosed because they were in australia and not here. Who knows how they could get access to a test here. The president tonight issued a travel ban from europe as the way hes going to try to address coronavirus in this country because he knows how to do travel bans. I mean, how about australia . Thats where tom hanks and his wife appear to have it. This dart board approach, this blind throwing darts that hes doing in terms of trying to make it seem like hes got some rational response here, countries from europe will be restricted in terms of travel from the United States starting on friday and were excludeing the u. K. Where the Health Minister tested positive, its just its random action at a time we need concerted smart science driven action. Rachel, thank you for your hour of coverage. We all learned a lot and were going to continue with it here. Thanks, lawrence. Thanks, rachel. Adam schiff will join us in this hour, later in the hour. Well get his reaction to the relatively vague outline President Trump announced tonight to try to control the coronavirus. And at the end of the hour tonight, were going to try to change the subject. Im not sure we will but david pluff is here. He managed president obamas successful campaign. I want him to referee a disagreement i have with our friends James Carville where the democratic president ial race could go from here. James carville says Bernie Sanders should drop out. I say not. David will tell us who is right at the end of the hour but i cant promise you that is what well be discussing at the end of this hour the way this news is breaking tonight on the coronavirus. We begin tonight with analysis of the president s tenminute address to the nation tonight. The first action the president announced tonight as rachel mentioned is a ban on travel to the United States from europe with some unspecified exceptions and possibly some significant loopholes. Listen carefully to how the president described it. We will be suspending all travel from europe to the United States for the next 30 days. The new rules will go into effect friday at midnight. These restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground. There will be exceptions for americans who have undergone appropriate screenings and these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo but various other things as we get approval. Anything coming from europe to the United States is what we are discussing. These restrictions will also not apply to the united kingdom. Leading off our discussion, larry garrett, politzer prize award winner, senior fellow for Global Health at the counsel and Foreign Relations in new york. Dr. Lina nguyen, emergency physician and Health Commissioner for the city of baltimore. Richard is former under secretary of state and msnbc political analyst. Let me start with you on this travel ban and how you interpret it. Ever since we heard about this virus, the way the president has approached it is i live in a castle, im pulling up the drawbridge, and the virus cant swim. Weve pulled up first the china drawbridge and then, you know, some other drawbridges and now were pulling up europe drawbridge but leaving down the south korea drawbridge. Were leaving down drawbridges all over the rest and the u. K. Apparently. None of it makes any sense. Virus is here and probably already extremely wide spread in the United States. Theres very good indication it was in Washington State by the 10th of january and very likely it was spreading dramatically in Washington State from there for weeks before we knew it. Without surveillance testing, of course, we dont really know where it is. We dont know how wide spread it is. The one place that has done contact tracing, that classic instrument you say here is an infected individual, lets find everybody that person was in contact with and test them, thats been done one place so far in the United States, in new york looking at one lawyer who we know is in infected and still hospitalized and identified 50 contacts. From one person . One person. What we have to ask ourselves is what are we really up against at this time in the United States . And is the government taking it on on that scale and the answer is no. Ill tell you, lawrence, this today is the day that i had that feeling the last time i had it after more than 30 years, dealing with epidemics, was in 1981 when i sat down with great epidemiologist named andrew moss who showed me a preprint he hadnt yet published and it calculate that 50 of the gay men living in the Castro District were already infected with this brandnew virus that didnt have a name that we now call hiv. Rick, on the enforcement of this vague travel ban, what do you see in that . For example, you can come here from the united kingdom. Does that mean a french citizen can simply cross the channel, fly from heathrow to here, that same french citizen couldnt fly from paris to here . Do you see in this ban . Its not very clear and its not very rational. He didnt say anything about american citizens going back and forth and does kind of as laurie mention, confirm the world view there is us and them and the disease comes from elsewhere. Thats of course false. The disease is here. Its spreading probably more than we know in part because were not testing and he didnt talk about testing at all. If i can make one other paint about your conversation with rachel and what weve been talking about closing nba games and that, this is what epidemiologist call flattening the curve. The idea of preventing a quick spread of the disease, which would over tax the Hospital System and try to make it smoother and the problem is, there arent enough beds for people with spikes and thats why this is a responsible thing to do. People need to know that. Listen to more of what the president said tonight about the threat and what it means to people medically. The vast majority of americans, the risk is very, very low. Young and Healthy People can expect to recover fully and quickly if they should get the virus. The highest risk is for Elderly Population with under lying health conditions. The Elderly Population must be very, very careful, in particular, were strongly advising Nursing Homes for the elderly suspend unnecessary visits. In general, Older Americans should avoid nonessential travel and crowded areas. Each of us has a role to play in defeating the virus. Wash your hands. Clean often used surfaces. Cover your face and mouth if you sneeze or cough and most of all, if you are sick or not feeling well, stay home. Dr. Nguyen, your reaction to the president s comments . Most of what he said is kind of true. Better than previous appearances, it is true the elderly, those with chronic medical conditions are the most medically vulnerable and should stay out of crowds and out of not do nonessential things, not do nonessential travel but its not true that all of those people who are young and healthy who get the covid19 will recover. 80 will do very well and the likelihood is they will recover but some wont get very sick and some will die. The other thing, too, is even if youre young and healthy and if you recover, it doesnt mean that it will be fine if you get the virus because you are still at risk for transmitting the disease to other people. And i think thats what i found to be the most profoundly disturbing part that was missing from the president s speech tonight, which is the warning that there is going to be significant disruption to everyday life. Its not just about banning those people from over there. Its about real actions that we have to be taking that are hard. I mean, school closures. Not going to work. Not getting a paycheck. Having events and conferences and all these things being cancelled, not going outside. These are really hard social distancing steps that we have to take but if we dont take them, then we wont be able to flatten the curve and a lot of people in this country could die. Laurie, i want to point out one thing not on the president s list. He says nothing about shaking hands when hes telling people how they should change behavior. This is within 24 hours of the Vice President of the United States standing in front of the American People saying he still shakes hands but he said that only after having to admit that President Trump still shakes hands and so mike pence didnt want to get out of line on the handshaking rule in the trump white house. And i am absolutely certain that the speech writers there were not allowed to put shaking hands in that tell promeprompter for read because of mike pence and donald trump statements about that already. I dont know about that but i know this. I wrote today published in Foreign Policy that we should chance l t cancel the elections. We have to cancel the rallies. You mean the campaigns. The campaigns. Not the election. Sorry, i misspoke. Thank you. We have to cancel the baby kissing and the hugging. You know, if you think about how many times a candidate hugs hands down the line joe biden and Bernie Sanders said theyve changed their behavior about this. This is a vector. Just as surely as a mosquito is for malaria. If you go down the line and shake 1,000 hands and one of them has covid and you may not get it but you then shake three hands later and pass it on on down the line, well, youve just facilitated spread of the disease. I think we have to rethink how were going to do the campaigns. Rethink even the voting process. Were in that level of crisis in this country now. Rick, your former job editor and chief of Time Magazine you certainly had a feel for Popular Culture and tom hanks, i believe, i know you know tom hanks from that job and other things and i believe hes on the cover, possibly even more than once in Time Magazine. At least once, i recall. So judge for us what you think the impact of an american, you know, hollywood icon like tom hanks telling us tonight that he and rita hanks are now suffering from this ailment. Tom hanks is over 60 years old, technically, very, very healthy man and rita obviously very healthy. But technically a higher risk than someone of a younger age. What do you think the impact of that news i have a feeling that is probably for many, many people their first real jolt about what this means to them. Like hudson moment. Yes, it personalizes it for americans but not just a person, a person that represents these all American Values and in fact, he represented that in that tweet that he did which was positive and like well never get put down by Something Like this. I thought it was a really admirable and heroic thing he did and can calm a lot of fears. It was a typical kind of tom hanks thing to do. Dr. Nguyen, where do you think we are going to be on decisions for other businesses that collect large crowds in enclosed spaces like the nba, theaters, these kinds of things Going Forward . Theres been a real shift in this last week and i hope that everyone, every part of society will recognize that we have to do work differently. We seen a lot of universities are changed their plans. A lot of companies are cancelling nonessential travel and encouraging tell la woework hope everyone says individual actions however small they are can make a big difference. Not everyone can work from home and thats understandable but for those who can, lets allow them to. Not every school should close because there are downsides to schools closing. For example, kids may not be able to get meals and there may be instances where this is not edadvisable but for those who c close, we shouldnt have large events and rallies. Its not worth it. We are we have this very narrow window now to intervene and to flatten the curve and to prevent a much worse escalation as has been seen in italy. Lets use that window and lets not look back and say, i wish i had done that because we actually knew the evidence all along. Dr. Nguyen, laurie garrett, rick, thank youall for starting off our discussion tonight. Appreciate it. When we come back, chairman adam schiff of the House Intelligence Committee will join us with his reaction to the president s comments tonight and the ban on travel from europe to the United States. Congressm congressm congressman schiff will be our next guest. Yes. Its the first word of any new discovery. But when allergies attack, the excitement fades. Allegra helps you say yes with the fastest nondrowsy allergy relief and turning a half hearted yes, into an all in yes. Allegra. Live your life, not your allergies. With hepatitis c. I. Best for my family. My. In only 8 weeks with mavyret. I was cured. 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Senator cantwell issued a statement tonight saying a staff member in senator Maria Cantwells office tested positive for covid19 the individual has been in isolation since the starting of symptoms. The senator closed her washington d. C. Office. This week for deep cleaning and staff will be teleworking. Hersh seattle and washington d. Officers will serve remotely. The individual that tested positive for covid19 has had no known contact with the senator or other members of congress. Here is more of what President Trump said tonight. To ensure that working americans impacted by the virus can stay home without fear of financial hardship, i will soon take Emergency Action which is unprecedented to provide financial relief. This will be targeted for workers who are ill, quarantined or caring for other due to coronavirus. I will be asking congress to take legislative action to extend this relief. Joining our discussion is adam schiff of california. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. I want to begin with your reaction to this announcement by senator cantwell that a member of her staff tested positive for coronavirus. The senator had no known contact with that staff member and of course, we know that thats possible because of the travel schedule of senators and other reasons why that might be the case. But your reaction to what senator cantwell is reporting tonight. Certainly our thoughts go out to that staff member and we hope they have a quick recovery and hope that it wasnt transmited to others on her staff or anywhere else on the hill for that matter but lawrence, it doesnt really come as a surprise. We have a very public job. Our job indeed is interacting with the public, but more broadly than that, given the pace at which this virus is being transmitted, we have to anticipate that every major workplace is going to be touched by this virus and what really matters is how we prepare for that and how we try to control and address that. Time is very precious. There are a lot of things i wish i heard in the president s speech today and some i heard that concerned me because when you have a Major Health Crisis like this incompetence kills. Incompetence kills. And the response thus far from administration has been plagued with incompetence and in particular, not getting the tests out there quickly so we can see who is infected, where are they infected, what steps could be taken to really mitigate the spread of this virus and we now are in the position of trying to make up for lost time well never get back. Congressman, what is your reaction to what the president was proposing legislatively tonight . Well, the snippet you showed about making sure workers can stay home that get sick and still pay the bills, you know, frankly that was the only thing or one of the few things that made sense to me in what the president had to say and the package well take up tomorrow will have a provision among most important is for paid sick leave so that those that get ill, but cant afford not to be paid, arent going to have to go to work and risk infecting others. What i would have liked to have heard the president say is this is a Serious Public Health crisis. I im not going to sugarcoat it but this is something we can handle. Ill surge the test kits to find out where is this virus. How wide spread is it . These are the resources ill devote to make sure these tests are done quickly and wide spread. Were going to make sure that we surge our health capacity. This is what im going to do for the hospitals and clinics. These are the resources that were going to deploy. This is how were going to involve fema. Were going to set up at defense instillations additional beds and here is where were going to do for those people that are touched by this. Were going to make sure that they can still pay the bills. Were going to make sure they get the best health care in the world. Were going to make sure that, you know, those that are on the edge of poverty have food on the table and we are also going to have to be serious about some major changes in our lifestyle but we can do this. We can do this. And im going to ask youall to make certain sacrifices in our social life to really contain the worst of this virus. That wasnt the kind of thing we heard. Not something that was uplifting that gave us reason to believe we can deal with this rationally, sensibly but instead, it was frankly a kind of a crazy quilt. No more crazy than the travel ban, which applies to certain countries but not others. It applies to countries where there isle less of a problem in europe but not more of a problem elsewhere like in south korea and that kind of thing not only doesnt inspire confidence but doesnt lead to results. I want to go back to where we began with this breaking news about a member of her staff testing positive for the virus. When we know how these staffs are, i mean, the senator prfrom washington has 40, 45 people on her staff and probably in the washington office. That we just got a report in first segment we discussed tonight where the one person whose infected in new york who has been traced directly infected another 50 people, im imagining the Staff Members having their lunch as you know in the basement of the building in that vast cafeteria there. I know all of the interaction those Staff Members have. The restaurants they go to on fridays after work and for someone who had been infected maybe for ten days without knowing it, the possibility of what were facing now in the Russell Senate offic building, heart Center Office building and not so far across the lawn in the house office buildings, we could be a week or two away from a situation there that weve never seen before. Well, thats absolutely right. And indeed there are a number of house members that have selfquarantined and because there are so little testing, we dont know how wide spread this is on the hill let alone anywhere else in the country but in terms of the continuation of governance and in the congress where we physically have to be presented to vote, there are additional challenges and difficulties as you saw weve already taken some steps in the capital to minimize the spread on the capital but were going to have to entertain a lot more. I had discussions about teleworking and as the chair of a committee, this poses a challenge because if you deal with classified information generally unless you have a secured line and few people do, you have to be in the capitol. So were trying to navigate our way and there probably wont be a one size fits all but this is something that we were understanding would be a matter of time on the hill but i think people all over the country have to understand probably only a matter of time before it affects their own workplace and the changes they put in place now will affect how well they can protect that workplace and whether theres an opportunity to keep their workplace free of the coronavirus. Has there been any discussion about the possibility of not just teleworking but televoting. Members of congress that may be quarantined and many of them may be kwaurn attornquarantined, se might have to be quarantined, might there be a rules change in the house and the senate that would allow temporarily, whatever the time takes for some members to be able to vote from home . There are members that have introduced legislation along those lines already. I can tell you its gotten a very chilly reception on the hill from most of the members because so much of the business really is done in person and of necessity is very difficult to do remotely. The voting is just one piece of it but the negotiations over changes to bills over the legislative process itself, that is very difficult to accomplish when youre spread out throughout the country and so at the moment, theres not much emp tis behind that but things are changing so fast, things that we thought were implausible a week ago seem quite rational and if anything an under reaction so where we will be down the road if indeed there are substantial number of members who have to quarantine themselves or their staff who can say but i think at the moment, we have to do everything we can to try to minimize the likelihood thats necessary. Chairman adam schiff, stay safe and thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. Thank you. And when we come back, why Bernie Sanders says hes been losing to joe biden. He gave his own reading of that today in his statement that he made to reporters in vermont. John will join us. snoring whats going on . Its the 3pm slump. Should have had a p3. 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Well defeat him together. [ applause ] that was joe biden after his big win in michigan, missouri and idaho. The state of washington is too close to call. More vote was counted earlier tonight. Joe biden is now leading at the moment by about 16,000 votes with 78 of the vote counted. Bernie sanders won north dakota last night and spoke briefly to reporters in burlington, vermont today. Last night obviously was not a good night for our campaign from a delegate point of view. Our campaign won the debate. The debate over and our ability. I cannot tell you how many people our campaign has spoken to who have said and i quote i like what your Campaign Stands for, i agree with what your Campaign Stands for but im going to vote for joe biden because i think joe is the best candidate to defeat donald trump. As of tonight, joe biden has 838 delegates, Bernie Sanders has 691. According to nbc news. And 1,991 delegates are the necessary number to secure the nomination. The candidates will have their first one on one debate sunday night in arizona, one of four states that will hold primaries next tuesday in the face of the illness, no Live Audience and no spin room after the debate where candidates or representatives normally gather for interviews with the media. Bernie sanders gave a preview of how he hopes to focus sunday nights debate. Joe, what are you going to do to end the absurdity of the United States of america being the only major country on earth where health care is not a human right . Joe, how will you respond to the scientists who tell us we have seven or eighth years to transform the system and hall takes place to this planet because of the rclimate change. What are you going to do about millions of people struggling without rage g outrageous level student debt. Joining us is the cohost of show times the circus and editor and chief of the recount. John, a stirring speech by joe biden last night in philadelphia with an audience, not as big as he wanted but you heard the cheering and that. With basically just a meeting in front of reporters in vermont, he invited Campaign Supporters where he could have gotten a lot in vermont to do cheering. He didnt look like he was looking for arosing campaign lets fight until the end moment today. No, and a lot of his supporters would like to see that happen. Bernie sanders can read the writing on the wall. He sees the giant delegate lead as of last night bigger than people thought people could have. The notion last night the chance he would pick up delegates in mississippi. The michigan would be close. Its likely biden will win. Arizona might be the closest because hes performing well. You have georgia two weeks later biden is going to wrap up net delegates. The math is not there for sanders and hes trying to orchestrate his way out. You know, it might have sounded a little more confrontational in that excerpt when he said joe, joe. If you saw the whole ten minutes, he said listen, im going to ask joe how about this and that. Right. And he kept he said at the beginning and the end, the most important thing is beating donald trump in november. He didnt say and i will be the candidate who does that. And so this debate is going to be very its very hard to anticipate. Yeah. Bernie sanders and joe biden both seem to be going in it as friends, longtime friends who know that there has to be a nominee that emerges from this who has strength to beat donald trump. I dont think Bernie Sanders will try to draw blood on sunday night. That doesnt mean hes not going to be tough and argue with joe biden over the many differences they have. You can see him in a way those challenges today were in a way that he was sort of i read them as im going to offer you a chance joe biden to address these issues that matter a lot to my supporters. In the end you need my people. Im the person who has the power to end this race. Bernie sanders can keep this race running for three months or bring it to a close when he wants to. He cant be the democratic nominee but has the power to end the race and help those help joe biden gain the allegiance in his camp that joe biden will need to win a general election. Hes offering biden a chance to prove himself to those voters and i thought it was really important what you said, lawrence, a guy looking to burn the party to the ground would not have started and ended with the most important thing to do here is beat donald trump. Thats someone looking to ultimately find his way to unity. He wouldnt have done a quiet ten minutes. Right, sure. Set the joe biden comeback in Historical Context in president ial primaries. Hes down to fourth place. Hes fallen off the map. People are saying its hopeless hes pulling in Single Digits around the country and then come South Carolina and the world changes. Theres never been a come back like this. Unprecedented. Absolutely unprecedented to finish fourth at iowa and fifth New Hampshire to be broke to have no operations on the ground in the super tuesday states to have no ads on the air in the super tuesday states, to have really one state on which your entire campaign rests after having had a fourth, fifth and distant second to win that state overwhelmingly and then see the dominos fall, the various endorsements and then to march through to the victory that he had on super tuesday. There is nothing like it in our lifetime in the modern era of nominations in which you win or lose through primaries and caucuses not in smoke filled rooms. Nothing like it before. And were going into a campaign where we quite literally dont know what it will look like. Bernie Sanders Campaign is the big rally. Donald Trumps Campaign is the big rally. Well probably not see more of those. We dont know what is coming. Thank you for joining us tonight. When we come back, should Bernie Sanders drop out of the race now, James Carville says yes, i say now. David pluff will referee. Thats next. Its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. Our Retirement Plan with voya gives us confidence. So we can spend a bit today, knowing were prepared for tomorrow. Wow, do you think you overdid it maybe . Overdid what . Well planned, well invested, well protected. Voya. Be confident to and through retirement. Thats a zzzquil pure zzzs sleep. Our gummies contain a unique botanical blend, while an optimal melatonin level means no nextday grogginess. Zzzquil pure zzzs. Naturally superior sleep. 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That concept is flawed. Everyone is already thinking of november. Everybody biden voter as and sanders voters. It is helpful to continue this campaign and continue to debate because it strengthen the campaign skills of the nominee. Bernie sanders is absolutely right, hes winning the youths in this campaign. Hes winning 18 year olds and 21 year olds who are casting their first vote in their lives. If you want those new voters to continue to believe the effort is worth it, you have to be careful of what they experience. When they suffer their first loss. As James Carville believes, Bernie Sanders is not the nominee. I think the democratic should give Bernie Sanders and his voters as much time they need to come to terms to that reality even if it means running the campaign all the way to new jersey primary on june 2nd and let every state cast their votes on who they want as the democratic nominee for president. But, what do i know . I never worked on a president ial campaign. James carville may be right and to referee this, we have another member of that rare group of americans who have worked at the highest level on successful president ial campaigns. His new book a citizens guide to beating donald trump, david plouffi, whos right . I dont think staying into june makes sense. First of all, it is a fully uni unified. You want person Bernie Sanders to get out on his own time. It is not just 18 year olds, hes dominating anybody thats under 45. So i think sunday is important. And i would say next tuesday biden is going to grow his delegate lead certainly to the point. I think thats appropriate time for the Sanders Campaign to think about that. I was in wisconsin, i was in pennsylvania the last two days. If it is clear whos going to win so i think staying through sunday makes sense. I think it is an opportunity for biden. I think delegate picture will be clear after tuesday. Bernie sanders decides to suspend his campaign, there will be more rational. I am not enthoin those go to ju. If you have joe biden as your general election candidate, dont you want to keep a shield around him for a little bit longer as long as you can. The minute those one candidate left here and there is just that one candidate against donald trump, the key on that candidate increases dramatically. There is a little bit of a heat shield right now. But, i would say a couple of things about that. I understand that. Particularly the coronavirus situation going on. It is helpful to the party of one voice telling the American People how they will handle this president. This is so critically important. In 08 when we went through the financial crisis, thats where people sentenced their attention on obama. Can you handle this crisis . We need to train to fire trump. Donald trump where i am today in wisconsin or pennsylvania, north carolina, florida, hes running a race right now. We got to take it in. Thats a defensive few. We need to shield biden. If hes going to be our nominee we need to have him on shackles and run that Election Campaign against donald trump. Having the one voice out there saying this is what we need to do that trump is not doing is so vitally important. The agreement i am hearing between us anyway is this is bernies decision and let him make the decision on his timetable and you dont want the public impression that there is any kind of pressure or any kind of forcing Bernie Sanders out of the campaign where he earned his place. Yes, i thought his remarks today were clear. He had a previous discussion with john harmon about this. He was not like we are going to the mattresses. He was clear that you know hes trying to orchestrate how this ends. So i think we ought to give him some time to do that. I think after next tuesdays primaries particularly because you got biden add to his delegate lead, it is going to be clear. Then i think we have to get the business unifying which wont happen easily. We got to work at it and listen to sanders. Hopefully the Biden Campaign if hes the nominee hires a lot of san sande sanders team. What happens to the Trump Campaign which lives on rallies if many states just make these large assemblies illegal or if there is general recommendation on the do not gather in large groups like this. Donald trump continues to violate it and try to gather 20,000 people in arenas. He may try to do that and it is the wrong thing to do. There is no doubt about that is one of his political weapons. Their real warfare is the digital war. The advertising on hulu and facebook and youtube. Theyll intensify that. Trump tries to have a redo today and suggesting that hell take it seriously. President s, what is demanded by the American People is handle crisis. Hes so narcissist that it is less of the health of the economy hes worried about, it is his own political health. If hes not able out on the road, i worry about that from a management standpoint because it is going to make him upset like a chained animal. They got plenty of money and sophistication to do online money. We got to start fighting that from a general election standpoint right away. David plouffe, i cant tell you what an honor for me to reach a partial agreement with you. For you to go along with my concept at all, i have to accept it as a victory. David, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thats tonights last word. The 11th hour starts now. Tonight, President Trump curves travel to europe to fight the pandemic as confidence in his administration drops. Report that the president s soninlaw is taking on new responsibility with the crisis. The nba suspended its season until further notice. Hollywood legend tom hanks says he has tested positive and the dow moves into bear market territory. Plus, Bernie Sanders stays in the president ial