Unicef cancelled its annual fundraising dinner in los angeles today. Cancelations like that are happening all over the country. Airlines are cutting flight schedules, and some Tourist Attractions around the country are now empty. And the response to the coronavirus in the United States is being led by the most incompetent and ignorant president in history who shook up his Administration Today by announcing the replacement of his white house chief of staff in the middle of this crisis. Congressman mark meadows will replace a white house chief of staff who in a competent administration would be in the thick of managing the administrations response to the coronavirus. We will discuss that later in this hour. Its impossible to tell who is in charge in the trump administration, and it may well be that no one is in charge. There are now 100,000 coronavirus cases worldwide in at least 83 countries. At least 3,460 people have died worldwide. There are now at least 326 reported coronavirus cases in the United States in 26 states. The fushl death toll rose to 15 today in the United States when three more deaths were reported. 14 of the 15 deaths in the United States were in Washington State, new york state, Governor Andrew Cuomo confirmed today 22 new cases bringing the total number of reported cases in new york state to 44. The president s response to all of this was to fly off to florida for the weekend, as usual. He made a stop in atlanta at the centers for disease control. While he was at the cdc, the president said he didnt want anyone to get off the cruise ship that is off the coast of california near San Francisco because the president is afraid that any infected people on that ship, if they come ashore in california, will then increase the number of reported cases of coronavirus in the United States. The president discussed the urgent matter of last nights cable news ratings at the cdc. He told america the lie that anyone can get tested for coronavirus, and he said that the governor of the state with the largest death toll from coronavirus is a snake, as you just heard ali mention. That governor will be joining rachel on monday night. Washington state has suffered 14 of americas 15 deaths of coronavirus. And at the cdc, donald trump said this about the governor of Washington State, jay inslee. I told mike not to be complimentary to the governor because that governor is a snake, okay, inslee. And i said if youre nice to him, he will take advantage, and i would have said no. Let me just tell you we have a lot of problems with the governor, and the governor of washington, thats where we have many of our problems. So, mike may be happy with him, but im not, okay . And he would say that naturally. And as i said last night at the town hall, if we came up with a cure today and tomorrow everything is gone and you went up to this governor whos not a good governor, by the way. If you went up to this governor and you said to him how did trump do . Hed say he did a terrible job. That was the president of the United States doing his usual terrible job, a terrible job of being president , a terrible job of managing a Public Health crisis. And always a terrible job of being a human being. Here is the relentlessly perverted mind of donald trump lying about the availability of coronavirus testing in the United States and linking that to the lie that he told about his phone call with the president of ukraine. This is a level of depravity that only the mind of donald trump can find. Anybody that needs a test can have a test. Theyre all set. They have them out there. In addition to that, theyre making millions of more as we speak. But as of right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test, thats the important thing, and the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. This is not as perfect as that, but pretty good. Today wearing his buffoonish campaign hat at the cdc, donald trump did everything he could to make it clear theres an abject clown leading the defense of americas Public Health. I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that i understand it. Every one of these doctors said how do you know so much about this . Maybe i have a natural ability. Maybe i shouldve done that instead of running for president. Joining our discussion now dr. Celine of the disease infectious epidemiologist. She is the host of the new podcast epidemic with ron clan, the former ebola czar. The former director of National Economic council for president s obama and clinton. And sara nelson is here. She is the president of the association of Flight Attendants. And she has been a Flight Attendant for 24 years. Doctor, how would you assess the situation tonight . Well, i can tell you just based on the dear provider letters that were issued to providers, doctors, and others across new york state in the last day or so, what were told is that currently wadsworth, the new york state lab that conducts these tests, can do about 200 tests per day. And theyre hoping to scale up to 1,000 tests per day. But as you can imagine thats a state lab thats serving not just new york city but the rest of new york state. And i cant imagine that thats enough capacity to meet the demand were going to be seeing in the next couple weeks. Thats a population of tens of millions of people possibly a Million People or more at some point needing a test, hopefully not testing positive. What do we know about other Testing Centers just even in that region if youre in massachusetts, for example, or connecticut . So, a lot of this is being done really at the local and state Health Department levels. So some of them may now have capacity to do testing. Some of them may still be sending tests to cdc. Either way, we know that broadly across the country we still dont have nearly enough test kits to go around. And theres a lot of confusion about how do you even get a patient tested. You know, the average primary care doctor ive been hearing from other patients and people on twitter who reached out to me saying i called up my doctor. They didnt even want me coming to the office. They said go to the hospital. I called the hospital and asked if i need to be tested for the coronavirus, do you know how to do that . The answer was no. So, i think theres real issues with trying to get this information out and for people to understand what the pathway is to get somebody tested. Lets listen to two people on the trump payroll in the Trump White House who have absolutely no idea what theyre talking about when it comes to virtually anything, but certainly science and medical science. Lets listen to them today insisting publicly that the Coronavirus Spread in the United States is now contained. Thats their word, contained. I would still argue to you that this is contained. It cant be airtight. It is being contained. Do you think its not being contained . Gene spurling, you worked in the white house in a Economic Policy position similar to the position larry kudlow is in in the white house. Whats your reaction to these two people going out there and telling america that this is contained . In a crisis, credibility is precious. Credibility is a terrible thing to waste. Once you waste it, you cant get it back. Right now across this country, beyond what weve normally ever dealt with in consumer spending, its not just people who fear losing their job. Every single American Family is sitting around the Kitchen Table wondering what they should do, wondering how to protect the health of their parents, themselves, their children. And now you have the president of the United States calling it a hoax, as you say, its a clown show. The person in my job is telling people to buy the market, things are fine. They have now destroyed any ability to later offer the type of reassurance that might be justified later because theyre all people whose parents apparently never read to them the boy who cried wolf because their credibility is gone at this point. But their credibility was gone before today. That might be a good thing in that the country knows that Kellyanne Conway is a pathological liar. So, if she says today its contained, they know theres no reason to listen to her. Theyve kind of been warned that she is an out of control pathological liar before today. Right. But what a loss. I mean, at this point were all wondering what to do. Its all anybody is talking about. This is an economy that is only been held up by consumer spending. Manufacturings been in virtual recession for six months. But consumers have been spending. Now you have this massive pullback. And what would have provided more assurance . Information certainty, massive testing, a government giving you clear instruction. So, yes, it is true they know dont look to the white house for good information, but it creates a vacuum. And how are people going to relate to that vacuum when its about the health of their children and themselves . Theyre going to pull back. Theyre going to do less. Theyre going to spend less in a massive way. And i got to tell you, i feel very negative not only that we could go into a downturn, but, you know, economists say sometimes its a vshape, it goes down, you dont buy washing machines, and then it comes back up. If you dont do this kind of spending now, i dont know why its going to get better in may or june or july. And once you dont go to the gym or dont go to restaurants for a few months, its not like you double them later. So this could be a major, major hit to the economy. And some of it is not necessary. Some of it couldve been reduced by competent testing, massive testing, massive information, and a government that every single day gave you a briefing that was credible and believable. And that credibility is wasted and gone now. Sara nelson, United Airlines has cut back on their flight schedule because demand is falling. Corporate travel is dropping. Recreational travel is dropping. People are asking themselves should i be taking this trip, should i be going to the airport . Im supposed to fly tomorrow. How do you feel about people and members of your family going to airports in america and getting on planes in the middle of this Public Health crisis . Well, ironically, going to the airport and getting on planes may be one of your safest public locations because the airlines have been working with the unions and the people who know how to address these things for the last two months because we actually fly around the world and have been dealing with coronavirus for the last two months. But what i would tell you is that this is incredibly serious and the words that have come from the white house put both my members and the traveling public in harms way because were not getting the tests to the right people to be able to contain and identify where we have the Community Outbreaks and where we can isolate that now that its in the United States. And that puts us all at risk. It also puts us at risk for giving good information to the public about what they can do to protect themselves. But i will tell you that the airlines have worked very closely with us. I can think back to the ebola crisis. And i was actually at the white house with ron mcclain in several meetings with other union leaders, with industry leaders. We were all at the table. He brought an Interagency Working Group together. We were not only talking about what we needed to do on the front lines to have the right supplies and the good information to be able to contain this in our workplaces and for those of us who are on the front lines, Flight Attendants, nurses, teachers. But also what we were going to do as americans to actually go to the infected regions and help contain the diseases there. Here we cant even talk here about what we can do in a coordinated way with good information in this country to be able to contain this. And so i cant even believe where we are today. And im extremely disheartened that the president of the United States is putting my members at risk, my members jobs at risk, our entire economy at risk, and not taking this seriously. And were not even getting to the space that we should be in where we should be coordinating through the white house with all the local Healthcare Professionals and the Healthcare Community and with all the people on the front lines to have a very deliberate response to this. We can take this on as americans. But not with this kind of chaos from the white house. Sara, we are all washing our hands furiously all day. What are the airlines doing in terms of trying to sanitize the aircraft themselves between flights . Are they taking extra measures in cleaning the planes . The airlines have been interacting with us, and there are issues because there has been contracted out work with the cleaners. So there is a supply chain issue there and coordination. But the airlines are working very hard in making sure that they are taking deliberate measures to do extra cleaning, follow cdc guidelines on that cleaning. And they have been interfacing with us on that. They also have been coordinating and trying to get both Hand Sanitizer near the gallies and the lavatories and coordinating with us on that. But it does require a government approval or exemption to be able to put that bulk Hand Sanitizer on the planes. So there are issues that should be done very quickly through the coordination of private and public partnerships. But theres no coordination coming from the government to help these things move along. Very simple good ideas that if we had someone who is able to coordinate this, we could move faster, we could help to mitigate the spread of this disease, and we could get the proper tools into the hands of the people who are first responders. Dr. Gounder, what are you telling people about precautions they should take in their own lives . What are you telling people must be asking you should i take that flight across the country . Should i go to that basketball game in an arena with 20,000 people . What do you tell them . Well, in terms of how i sort of think through those different risks and exposures, in terms of travel, is it domestic . Is it foreign . You have slightly different sets of issues with each. If its foreign travel you may be running into if you get sick overseas, how good is the medical care in the place where you might be getting sick . There are quarantines and travel restrictions being instituted not just by our own government but by other governments. So could you be getting stuck somewhere as a result of their policies as well as our own . And then other measures or other things to think about, whether its domestic or foreign travel, what is your base line risk for having a severe complication of this if you were to become infected . So, thats partly age, especially if youre over 70 although we do see increased risk over the age of 50. People with chronic medical diseases and were not referring to high Blood Pressure or high cholesterol. Were talking about organ disease like lung disease, heart disease, liver disease, kidney disease, people who have suppressed immune systems for whatever reason that could be related to cancer or treatments that theyre getting. So, those are other factors that i would consider. And then finally is there a mismatch in risk in terms of the transmission on the ground in the place that youre traveling from and the place that youre traveling to . So if youre talking about traveling from the San Francisco bay area to kirkland, washington, those are probably fairly equivalent risks in terms of community transmission. But if youre talking about going from kirkland, washington, to omaha or vice versa, youre at risk for either getting yourself potentially exposed and or bringing it back to a community that has not been exposed yet. So, i think these decisions really need to be individualized and looked at very carefully in that way. What about that question of public gatherings in, say, Madison Square garden . A lot of people are wondering about whether they should participate in that now. I think you have to look at indoor versus outdoor as also different risks. When youre outdoors thats as good of ventilation as youre going to get. And actually one way in workplaces where there are windows that you can open up all the windows, thats actually a great way to reduce the risk, at least in that setting. I know a lot of Office Buildings you cant necessarily do that. But i think watching a game outside on the High School Bleachers along the side of the field is very different from going into an arena indoors where youre sitting next to a lot of people and theres not good ventilation. To go back to the economic issues, theres so many jobs that are threatened by what weve just been describing and the Consumer Choices that weve just been describing and the people who clean Madison Square garden, if that kind of closes down as a venue, theyre out of work, their lives change instantaneously. Theres no question as often as the case that lowerincome working americans are the ones going to be hardest hit. One, about 70 of them do not have any paid sick leave. Number two, if they have to stay home with their children because theyre sick or school closes, thats a hard hit on them. Three, they dont really have as Strong Health care. And four, as you said, most of us who are in more professional service jobs, we have a lot of options to do video conferencing. If youre cleaning a floor or giving coffee, you dont have that option. 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Mick mulvaney was reportedly increasingly ignored by the president after mulvaney stepped up to the white house microphone and said, yes, of course, of course donald trump was demanding an investigation by ukraine before he would release 400 million in aid to ukraine. That he also mentioned to me in the past that the corruption related to the dnc server, absolutely, no question about that. But thats it. And thats why we held up the money. Now there was a report so the demand for an investigation into the democrats was part of the reason that he wanted to withhold funding to ukraine . The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate. And i have news for everybody. Get over it. There is going to be political influence in foreign policy. For some reason the get over it message didnt work. Joining us now is rick stengel. He is the former undersecretary of state in the obama administration. He is now an msnbc political analyst. His latest book is information wars. And Gene Sperling is back with us. Mick mulvaney went out to that white house podium he believed to put out the fire about the ukraine phone call. His job was go out there, make this go away, and of course he made the fire burn even hotter. Well, that reminds me of that great old Michael Kinsley axiom that the real scandal in washington is telling the truth, not lying because Mick Mulvaney was absolutely telling the truth. He said thats exactly what happened. It was a quid pro quo. Politics does influence our foreign policy. Yes, the president was holding up the president of ukraine. And of course thats why Mick Mulvaney is out the door because he told the truth rather than lying about it the way President Trump did over and over and over again. Yeah. And, gene, of course that moment on video wildly complicated the president s defense in the impeachment investigation. Look, im not a big fan of a lot of his chief of staffs or senior advisers. Whos your favorite of all of them . But, in fairness, i mean, lawrence, how could anybody succeed in that job . Because you have theres no version of success. Theres an inherent conflict and we saw it on day one when sean spicer was forced to go out and tell even a 7yearold that a huge crowd was actually less than a smaller crowd. And that is what the chief of staff faced too. You have an inherent conflict to craven loyalty to the president s outrageous behavior or incompetence. Nobody can do both. So, mark meadows is coming in because hes seen as being more loyal. What would being more loyal mean right now . It meant you would have done more to defend the president that the coronavirus was a hoax, that was that it was a political conspiracy, that you should be buying the stock market at 29,000. And then of course you look incompetent and hes frustrated and wants to get rid of you. No one can succeed because of the clown show that sits in the oval office. Yeah. Its so obvious that the clock is ticking. But of course for mark meadows, he only has to serve out a few months before you get to the next inauguration in which it is very likely that someone other than donald trump will be inaugurated. So, you know, he would be kind of ripe for firing right around the time when donald trump might get fired by the voters. Yes. And theres the old saying in washington that there are three kinds of jobs in washington. There are hard jobs, there are impossible jobs and then theres white house chief of staff. Now theres a whole new category. To be white house chief of staff for donald trump, its beyond impossible. Gene is absolutely right about that. And i think the question is, you know, when you switch lackeys in the middle of the river, what does that really mean in the middle of a crisis . I think part of why trump is doing this is to just distract people to try to distract people temporarily from the coronavirus controversy. But hes such a shorttime player that i mean, he just wants to distract people for one news cycle. The thing that is a little bit dangerous about it is the white house chief of staff should be coordinating the entire whole of government response to this threat to the republic. And now we have a new guy whos come in. Hes got to learn where the mens room is. He does have some good contacts with the house of course. But he doesnt know the executive branch very well. And i think its going to be confusing. And i think it will setback an effort that is already setback. Your first segment about the fact that theyre just way, way, way too few tests that are out there. Thats a very, very dangerous thing for the republic because we just do not know how many people may be infected. And if you cant measure something, you cant combat it. And thats the situation that were in now. Rick stengel, Gene Sperling, thank you very much for joining this discussion. Really appreciate it. And when we come back, a federal judge has ordered attorney general william barr to give the judge an unredacted version of the Mueller Report because the judge says he does not trust that William Barrs redactions of the Mueller Report are legitimate. Neal katyal will join us next. With what he says is a judges order to an attorney general unlike any we have seen before. Some things are harder than you thought. And others are easier. Like screening for colon cancer with me, cologuard. Im noninvasive and you use me at home. Im also effective. 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The judges written order says the speed by which attorney general barr released to the public the summary of special counsel muellers principal conclusions coupled with the fact that attorney general barr failed to provide a thorough representation of the findings set forth in the Mueller Report causes the court to question whether attorney general barrs intent was to create a onesided narrative about the Mueller Report, a narrative that is clearly in some respects substantively at odds with the redacted version of the Mueller Report. The Justice Department issued a Public Statement today in response to the judges order saying that the attorney general, quote, played no role. That was their words, played no role, in deciding what would be redacted in the Mueller Report. The statement added the department stands by their work as well as the attorney generals statements and efforts to provide as much transparency as possible in connection with the special counsels confidential report. Joining us now is neal katyal, former acting u. S. Solicitor general and an msnbc legal contributor. Neal, this is such an extraordinary opinion to read. Heres a Federal District court judge saying i cant trust the attorney general. Yeah, lawrence. I think the word you used was extraordinary. The word i had used is its never happened before, ever. There isnt an opinion by any federal judge calling out the attorney general and saying youve lost your credibility and i cant trust you anymore. And any attorney, even a nongovernment attorney really what they have, their bond is their credibility with the court, their ability to tell the truth and be seen as telling the truth. Because law is, after all, just a bunch of words. And as a highranking Justice Department attorney, the thing you spend, as i did, every night worrying about is some government official, somewhere some doj attorney somewhere in the field might not be telling the truth to a court, here youve got the reverse. Youve got the lawyers in the field worried and tagged by the fact the attorney general has been misrepresenting things and has lost his credibility and therefore the departments credibility. Because what judge walton says and by the way, judge walton is a very middle of the road republican appointed judge, not someone to use this kind of language. But what he said is what barr did didnt just destroy barrs credibility. It destroyed the department of justices credibility. You went straight to my second question which is have we seen anything like this before . I know i havent. And to have it be the attorney general by name is whats so extraordinary about this. There are federal judges here and there and cases here and there that question the way the prosecution in a case, the way they are handling certain things. Weve seen some of that before. But never specifically the attorney general. Isnt that whats so peculiar about this . Yeah. Well, i think its both actually, lawrence. I mean, when youre the attorney general, solicitor general, youre kind of supervising as many as 100,000 attorneys out in the field. And maybe once a year or twice a year youll get a judge who says something about an attorneys credibility or Something Like that. But nothing like this even about a line attorney, let alone about the top attorney, a cabinet official, the head of the Justice Department, the attorney general of the United States. And its such a sad day, lawrence. And im telling you just in the last 24 hours ive gotten calls from a number of doj line attorneys just really sickened to their heart about what this is. And, look, i think everyone knew last year when the attorney general falsely summarized the Mueller Report just how tendentious and how wrong it is. But now to have a federal judge call him out on it, its hard to stay in the department if you believe in the rule of law, its hard to stay in the Justice Department if you believe in this concept of the truth. And i was struck, neal, that the Justice Department issued a press release today, but they did not issue any kind of attempts to appeal the judges ruling. At this point do you believe the judge is going to have that unredacted Mueller Report in his chambers and start reading it . I sure hope so. But i also believe, lawrence, that this is also an opportunity for the House Judiciary Committee, which has been really sitting on its hands as the attorney general has destroyed, you know, precedent after precedent and misrepresented things. I think they have to have a real investigation about this, and im surprised that there hasnt been one. One about why barr said what he said about the Mueller Report and about these redactions. Because, you know, normally when you are a highranking Justice Department official, you say and you trust your line prosecutors to say make certain redactions. Here i dont think we can trust that process at all. Even if the attorney general himself wasnt involved, i suspect other people around him and political people were. And i think that the House Judiciary Committee has to get to the bottom of it. Its great that judge walton issued the opinion he did. It shows that federal courts are not going to be play things for donald trump, even republican appointed judges. But i think its also congresss job here. And the judge made it very clear in his order that when he reads this, if he finds that these redactions are legitimate, he will certify them as legitimate. But if he doesnt, thats when it gets interesting. Yeah, exactly. I mean, part of this is about obviously the redactions of the Mueller Report and whether theyre on the up and up. And it may be that some of those redactions are on the up and up. The saddest part about this, lawrence, is that barrs actions have so tainted the credibility of the Justice Department that a federal judge cant even trust the Justice Department anymore. It has to actually see everything for himself. And thats a very, very sad day for our democracy. Its a sad day for lawyers generally. And its a particularly sad day for those lawyers at the Justice Department. Neal katyal, thank you very much for joining us on this friday night. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Up next, the voters will speak again on tuesday in six president ial primaries. With michigan awarding the biggest prize of 125 delegates. So, of course Bernie Sanders was in michigan today. The latest on the president ial campaign is next. Yes. Yeah sure. Yes yes. Yeah, yeah no problem. Yes. Yes, yes a thousand times yes discover. Accepted at over 95 of places in the u. S. How we worship, or who we love. And the 2020 census is how that great promise is kept. Because this is the count that informs where hundreds of billions in funding will go each year for things like education, healthcare, and programs that touch us all. Shape your future. Start here. Learn more at 2020census. 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We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum Bernie Sanders was in detroit, michigan, tonight, one of the states that will be voting on tuesday. Joe has been around for a while, and ive been around for a while. How do we differ . I oppose that war. Joe biden voted for that war. I voted against the wall street bailout. Joe biden voted for the wall street bailout. They wanted this bankruptcy bill which would make it harder for workingclass people to get out of debt. I strongly opposed that bill. Joe biden voted for that bill. Senator sanders canceled a Campaign Trip to mississippi which will also be voting on tuesday. Missouri, idaho, north dakota, and Washington State will all be voting on tuesday. The following sunday will be the first debate since this field was narrowed to these two candidates. That will be a oneonone faceoff between the democratic partys frontrunners. Next sunday night in phoenix, Bernie Sanders and joe biden will be the only two candidates on the debate stage. And by then their delegate counts will be changed by whatever they pick up in tuesdays primaries. Joining us now is the senior director of progressive programming at sirius xm radio and an msnbc political analyst. Gene sperling is back with us. Zerlina, first of all it sounds like Bernie Sanders is basically giving up on mississippi. Oh, i think hes definitely giving up on mississippi because he remembers what happened in mississippi in 2016. I feel like im having deja vu, and i think its instructive for this moment because in 2016, you know, bernie surged in some of those early states. Obviously he blew us out in new hampshire. When i joined the campaign right before South Carolina, there was a lot of talk about that firewall in the south, the africanamerican vote that was so loyal to Hillary Clinton. And the same can be said about joe biden. So i think Bernie Sanders has not done enough since 2016 to expand his base beyond that 25 to 30 that he always had. And he hasnt really done a lot to reach out. Hes done well with latino voters of all ages. But he hasnt done so great with africanamericans over the age of 40. I think that you can contrast yourself with joe biden all you want. But winning an intellectual argument by saying i voted against things is not going to get someone like my dad to go out and vote for you. I think that he has to, you know, think about the details that hes going to elucidate for folks so that they understand how his Political Revolution is going to work. Zerlina, i cant fit your entire political resume into every introduction, so i just want to do the parenthetical for the audience that you worked on Hillary Clintons campaign four years ago. Yes, i did. And theres something similar to the way Bernie Sanders ran last time as Hillary Clinton as the campaign moved into the south and Hillary Clinton started to do so well with black voters. He basically applied his energy elsewhere. Well, i think this is not only different than that. I think this is different than anything weve seen in our lifetime. What happened in those four days was a seismic shift. Joe biden went from a 1 chance of winning massachusetts, and minnesota, states he didnt go to or advertise in to actually winning those. And i think there is kind of can i just say this . I didnt believe that joe biden had enough hours and enough days between the win in South Carolina and tuesday to generate the result that he did. I thought it wouldve taken at least a week to generate any kind of result like that. Right. And we had also learned in 2008 from the Obama Campaign that organization is supposed to matter having field offices, et cetera. You know, i think one interpretation, which is what the biden camps hoping for, a lot of political experts think, is this is different. Theres a blue army out there that is waiting for their marching orders. They want to take out trump. They want to take the senate. They want to keep the house. And once those marching orders were clear, they moved and voted regardless of anything else. For sanders, obviously, theyre going to want to believe, no, what this shows is that seismic shifts can happen a lot. But what they know and why hes in michigan now is that his clock is running. He has to have that kind of South Carolina win in michigan for him that makes people turn around. Or Something Big in the debate on march 15th. Because, as you were saying, march 17th is not only 500 delegates, but its florida, and right now hes up. Biden is up very big in florida. And then next week is georgia, which is a Southern State hes going to do well in. Bernies going to have his seismic shift, it better come may 10th in michigan or may 15t come may 10th in michigan or may 15th in the debate because after that, the delegate starts working against him. Zerlina, how important were those two phone calls by Bernie Sanders and by joe biden to Elizabeth Warren after she dropped out of the race as they now await what decision she might make on an endorsement . Pretty important, and i hope that both of them are both humble and complimentary of the fact that she ran, i think, one of the best president ial campaigns just on paper that ive ever seen. And i think thats going to be true even years in the future when we look back, just on the technicalities of it, the policy, the ground game like gene said and, you know, the messaging and the communication of her ideas while also telling her story. So i think theres a lot of analysis that will go into what happened in that campaign. But i think that she may not endorse until the general election like she did in 2016. She did not endorse Bernie Sanders. She waited until the general, and then she enthusiastically campaigned for the nominee, Hillary Clinton, and i think that may be the case now. I dont know that she gains anything by endorsing, particularly when we dont know how this is going to turn out yet. Yeah. I think she was the only democratic senator who didnt endorse Hillary Clinton last time and then just didnt endorse anyone until the nomination was secured. Zerlina maxwell, jean sperling, thank you both for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it on this friday night. And when we come back in tonights last word, the governor of alabama says that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from god. Last night she proved that she doesnt mean every life when she executed nathaniel woods. Thats next. Uggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. At liberty butchumal cut. Liberty biberty cut. Well dub it. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Skip to the good part with alkaseltzer plus. Now with 25 more concentrated power. 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Last year the governor of alabama, kay ivey, signed an unconstitutional antiabortion bill that was then blocked in federal court. When she signed the bill, she tweeted a picture of herself saying, today i signed into law the alabama human Life Protection act. To the bills many supporters, this legislation stands as a powerful testament to alabamians deeply held belief that every life is appreciaprec that every life is a sacred gift from god. She didnt really mean that because the next day she killed a man, Michael Brandon samer was executed the next day by lethal injection in alabama having been convicted of killing four people. Kay ivey, who says every life is precious, refused to use her absolute power as governor to stop that execution. Hannah cox is from alabama and is the leader of an Organization Called conservatives concerned about the Death Penalty. She says that conservatives support of the Death Penalty is, quote, a stance that cheapens the prolife argument. She says its a contradiction. Yesterday kay ivey lived that contradiction once again. At 9 01 p. M. , she took the life of nathaniel woods, who was not convicted of killing anyone but because a jury found that he was present when Carrie Spencer murdered three police officers, nathaniel woods was sentenced to death even though two of his 12 jurors did not vote for the Death Penalty. Alabama is the only state where a jury can deliver a Death Penalty without a unanimous verdict. Is that what kay ivey would call a powerful testament to alabamians deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from god . Governor ivey issued a Statement Last night, saying, i concluded that the state of alabama should carry out mr. Woods lawfully imposed sentence this evening. That written statement did not say every life is precious. That written statement did not say every life is a sacred gift from god. Governor ivey has said in the past that she doesnt like this part of her job. She has said that she did not, quote, relish the responsibility that i hold. But she has held that responsibility while sending nine men to their deaths in her three years as governor. Now, i dont know. I dont know how religion kay ivey really is, but i dont believe that she is more religious than the pope, who really does believe that every life is precious. And when pope francis says every life, he means every life, including people who spend their lives in prison. The vatican is less than two miles from regina chaley. Pope francis visited that prison two years ago when he was 81 years old. He was not the first pope to visit that prison. Pope john the 23rd visited the prison in 1958. Pope paul the 6th visited in 1964. And Pope John Paul ii visited the prison in 2000. Four popes have visited that prison because they all truly believe that every life is precious. When pope francis visited the prison, he washed the feet of 12 prisoners, symbolically reenacting jesus christ washing the feet of his 12 disciples. Pope francis told the prisoners, jesus does not know how to wash his hands of us. He never abandons us. Pope francis actually lives the words that kay ivey put in her tweet about alabamians deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from god. That day at regina chaley pope francis told the prisoners, there is no just penalty that is not open to hope. That is why the Death Penalty is neither christian nor human. Pope francis gets tonights last word. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. Tonight even more mixed coronavirus messaging from the command in chief. The confusion over test availability and the president s controversial reason for keeping infected patients onboard a quarantined cruise ship