Over two weeks ago. And so the Border Patrol was arresting dozens and dozens of kids a day at that time, sometimes as many as 100 a day. And so the real total by the time the president changed his mind about this was about 3,000. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has visited facilities in new york state that are holding some of these children, and he does not believe the president s new task force will reunite parents and children. Its impossible legally to reunite the child and the parent. By law, they cannot put the child in a Detention Facility and what the administration is still doing is keeping the parents in a Detention Facility. So you cannot unite them with a parent. When they talk about reunification, theyre talking about trying to find another Family Member in this country,
an aunt, uncle or something, and see if that relative will take in the child. Andrew cuomo knows how the federal bureaucracy works and doesnt work. He was the secretary of Housing And Urban Development in the clinton administration. Time magazine has obtained a secret United States navy memo which says, quote, the u. S. Navy is preparing plans to construct sprawling Detention Centers for Tens Of Thousands of immigrants on remote bases in california, alabama, and arizona. The navy memo outlines plans to build temporary and austere tent cities to house 25,000 migrants at abandoned air fields just outside the florida panhandle, near mobile, alabama, at Navy Outlying field wolf in orange beach, alabama, and at Navy Outlying field silverhill. The memo also proposes a camp for as many as 47,000 people at former naval weapons station
concord near San Francisco and another facility that could house as many as 47,000 people at camp pendleton, the marines largest Training Facility located along the Southern California coast. The New York Times reports today the chaos inside the Trump Administration over the president s socalled executive order, which is not actually an executive order, its just a memo, still, the memo, quote, led to a tense argument at the white house late thursday as senior officials across the federal government clashed over how to carry it out. Customs and Border Protection officials argued forcefully that agents who are apprehending migrant families at the border cannot refer all of the adults for prosecution because the Justice Department does not have the resources to accept all of the cases. As a result, the officials from customs and Border Protection told white house and Justice Department officials that they
have had to issue fewer Prosecution Referrals of adults with children despite the president s Zero Tolerance policy. Leading off our discussion now is msnbc legal analyst Danny Cevallos who spent today at a courthouse in mcallen, texas. Danny, what did you see in the proceedings there . We walked into the courtroom and 60 to 70 defendants were all shackled, one hand by their waist, the right hand left open to sign documents and swear an oath. This is a very unusual thing in federal court, lawrence. I handled federal criminal cases. You typically have a half dozen defendants waiting in court for their case. Having 60 to 70 defendants in a Courtroom Waiting for these misdemeanor 1325 cases is very, very unusual for federal court. You see that in state court. The other thing that was unusual was the way they combined the initial appearance, the plea, and even the sentencing all into a onetime event that lasted
really just one or two minutes per defendant and still took the better part of two to three hours. The result is prosecution of these Misdemeanor Cases in a Conveyor Belt fashion, and sentences being handed out, sameday service, and almost 100 of all defendants pleading guilty rather than elect to take a trial. Danny, what is the state of clarity or confusion . How would you describe it with the prosecutors there . Its an interesting situation because on some level the prosecutors this is usually a relatively easy federal prosecution for them. Their Conviction Rate must be around 99 because almost every defendant pleads guilty. But the reality is in the last few years, while apprehensions and other convictions have gone
up, the median sentence for these crimes has plummeted because the federal government is focusing more on these lower level petty Misdemeanor Cases. The result of that is a clogged court docket so that prosecutors essentially need these defendants to plead guilty. If they didnt, if even half of them didnt, the courthouse would explode with cases backed up as these defendants waited for trial. Instead, prosecutors are handing over an incentive for a quick plea to move these defendants on, give them to customs and Border Protection and get them back across the border into mexico. Because if they didnt, the docket would explode with cases. Danny cevallos in mcallen, texas, thank you for joining us tonight, really appreciate it. And were joined now by peter schey, the president for the center of human rights and constitutional law. Peter, thank you for joining us again tonight. Youve been Breaking News the last two nights in a row on this show, first by announcing that
the Justice Department had reached out to you the very day that the president issued his socalled executive order. They told you that they might go into court as early as the next day, which they then did. You reported to us that they went into court asking the judge basically to waive some of the provisions of the flores case that would then allow them to keep children in custody with their parents for an indefinite amount of time. Has the judge granted that request and have you been able to respond to the governments request . The judge has not yet responded to the papers that we filed today. We basically suggested to the court that it schedule a briefing schedule, that it require the government, the department of justice, to file a moral comprehensive and comprehensible brief thats actually supported by some evidence. That the court then give us a reasonable time to respond to
that and to then schedule a hearing. We also did indicate to the court that were investigating the situation. Right now were interviewing children who have been separated from their parents and that we might be in a position to be requesting some Emergency Relief from the court shortly. Because the Justice Department, Jeff Sessions department, basically presented this to the judge as an emergency. They wanted an Emergency Response from the judge. The judge has not seen it to be an emergency, apparently, and has not given them a ruling on whether they can house the children with parents indefinitely. But you have investigators out there. Your lawsuit allows you uniquely the power to visit these institutions basically anywhere in the country since every one of these children is technically in the class action represented by you. What are your lawyers who are out there interviewing children, what are they discovering and have they found any of these Infant Babies that we have been
trying to find . We have not found the Infant Babies at this point. What we have found is that parents of children are still being deported. Often their guilty pleas are accepted. Through discussions with parents and with public defenders and government officials, we have found out that the vast majority of these guilty pleas are coerced because the children are being held hostage. We have also found out that probably 80 of these guilty pleas should not have been accepted by the courts, they should not have been prosecuted in the first place because the parents had a reasonable fear of persecution when they entered the country without inspection, which means that was not a crime. Were finding that children have no Telephone Contact with their parents, so in terms of Making Decisions for the children, including their legal decisions,
instead of the parents making those decisions, in essence the federal government is making those decisions for the children. We have found that many children are being held in what appear to be cage type of facilities. So the disarray continues. The chaotic situation continues. And we will do our best to eventually bring this to the attention of the court and see if the court can play a role in straightening this out. Peter, let me get a Quick Reaction to this Breaking News that they are now establishing a new task force to figure out how to reunite parents and children. Does that indicate that they dont know how to reunite the parents and children . It does. Its far too little and its far too late. The damage to these children has been done. The psychological damage has been done. The violations of the flores settlement and of the rights of
these children have taken place. And to be honest, we do not trust the Trump Administration to properly handle a reunification program. So now were trying to generate social workers, pediatricians, lawyers who can play a constructive role in the reunification program, because we just do not trust the Trump Administration to do this humanely or effectively. Peter schey, thank you very much for joining us tonight with your invaluable insight on this. Really appreciate it. Coming up, today President Trump actually tried to get laughs and tell jokes in front of grieving families, but he did not say one word about the babies that he is holding in jails, in the United States. And tom arnold is here. Tom arnold has been making the rounds on tv today, since he tweeted this picture of him and Michael Cohen. And we will see how tom arnolds relationship with Michael Cohen is going by the time he gets here tonight at the last word. Oh, you brought butch. Yeah butch growls at man hes looking at me right now, isnt he . Yup. butch barks at man butch is like an old soul that just hates my guts. laughs vo you can never have too many faithful companions. Thats why i got a subaru crosstrek. Love is out there. Find it in a subaru crosstrek. Im a tin can tied to your bumper, cause. I dont think enough people heard about your big day. But nothing says We Got Married like a 12 ounce piece of scrap metal. Yo We Got Married honk if you like joint assets. Now youre so busy soaking up all this attention, you dont see the car in front of you. And if i can crash your perfect day, imagine what i can do to the rest of em. So get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem. Like me. And were committed to improving every ride. T to you starting with features designed to make it easy for your driver to find you. Taking the stress out of pickups. And were putting safety at the heart of everything we do. With a single tap, were giving you new ways to let loved ones know youre on your way. Uber has new leadership, a new vision and is moving in a new direction. Forward. Desperate attempt to repair the political damage that he created, the president created a media event at the executive Office Building beside the white house today that had nothing to do with the babies and toddlers and children being separated from their parents on the southern border. The president invited nine people to tell their tragic stories of losing loved ones in encounters with undocumented adults who were living in the United States. Here is the president at that event today lying about crime committed by immigrants. I always hear that, oh, no, the population is safer than the people that live in the country. Youve heard that, fellas, right . Youve heard that. I hear so much and i say is that possible . The answer is its not true. You hear its like theyre better people than what we have, than our citizens. Its not true. A study by the conservative Cato Institute from february
found that in the border state of texas, nativeborn residents were much more likely to be convicted of a crime than immigrants in the country legally or illegally. The journal criminology reported in march that states with larger shares of undocumented immigrants tended to have lower crime rates than states with smaller shares in the years 1990 through 2014. Increases in the undocumented immigrant population within states are associated with significant decreases in the prevalence of violence. The president s event today was a deadly serious event for everyone there. Except the president. The president is, of course, obsessed with looks. And so he did what no other president would do at an event like this especially, when thanking the Border Patrol officers who were in attendance. The president talked about their looks before he mentioned their bravery. He said, and theyre goodlooking people, arent they . Goodlooking people. Thank you very much for being here and for your bravery. Bravery an afterthought to looks. Later when the president was introducing a woman who was holding a picture of her son, who was murdered, the president looked at the picture of this still grieving mothers son and said this. This is tom selleck. Except better looking, right . Better looking. Nine people with tragic stories to tell then stepped up to the microphone and most of them, most of them told stories of how their loved ones were killed in traffic accidents. The president never mentioned any of the babies that he is holding under arrest in america tonight. Joining our discussion now is
Washington Post opinion Writer Jonathan capehart and maria teresa kumar. President and ceo of voter latino. Both are msnbc contributors. Maria teresa, this was clearly an event staged to counter all the other information weve been getting from the Southern Border Tonight and these were tragic, horrible stories that we heard about today, including the traffic deaths, no mistake about it. These drunk driving deaths. But it had nothing to do with the babies. It had nothing to do with the children. It had nothing to do with the girls that were still not being allowed to see at the southern border. Thats exactly right, lawrence. What the president is trying to do is basically taking a page book from what started his election, which was trying to criminalize undocumented immigrants and paint them all with the same brush. The fact that he shepherded all these women and fathers in front of a microphone to tell their tragic stories, America Grieves for them. No one wants to lose a child. But to not have the decency to address his policy and recognize
that there are 2,300 children that are separated right now from their families, in some cases in cages, but in some cases the authorities actually do not know where they are. And as you recall, there was you had a guest earlier this week that mentioned that sometimes the government may never even find them. There should be all Hands On Deck to make sure that these children that are right now living separated from their families in unjust conditions are reunited as quickly as possible. Thats what he should be talking about. Jonathan, as we know, what he also talked about today was this tweet where he said we must maintain a strong southern border. We cannot allow our country to be overrun by Illegal Immigrants as the democrats tell their phony stories of sadness and grief. Jonathan, that made me wonder if when the first lady returned from her visit to the border, did she tell the president that what those children told her were phony stories of sadness and grief . Look, lawrence, i have that tweet and everything weve seen this week, everything that the president wouldnt talk about with those grieving families, is a demonstration, yet another demonstration of a lack of a moral core to the man whos president of the United States and a lack of a moral core within this administration. Thats why he can stand up there and send that tweet talking about these phony stories of sadness. Its so its so enraging, lawrence, that the president of the United States would institute a policy, force his administration to do this policy, then reverse it, and then not do anything remotely to make sure that the e. O. Such as it was could be implemented effectively. Both the Washington Post and
the New York Times have stories about the arguments taking place within the white house, within the administration, about how to do this. If the president doesnt want to hear about what he calls phony stories of sadness, he shouldnt implement policies that make it that i dont know, lawrence, that makes these stories possible. Were talking about this and people are talking about these stories because hes separating children from their families. Hes arresting babies. He has babies in jail. He has people that are now calling those tent cities down on the border trump hotels. And im going to call them trump hotels and trump baby prisons until he starts talking about where those children are and when theyre going to be reunited with their families and what hes going to do to ensure that the damage that he has done In The Name Of the people of the United States, what is he going to do to repair that. I dont think there is a way for him to do it even if he had a moral core, even if he had any semblance of empathy. You know, ive been struggling with what to call these facilities. Kamala harris, who was a prosecutor, a California Attorney general, San Franciscos district attorney, she visited a facility in california in her state and kasie hunt, whos going to show this interview in full on sunday night on her program, got this really important observation from senator Kamala Harris about what she saw. Lets listen to this. Its a Detention Facility that looks and sounds and smells like a prison. You know, im a career prosecutor, ive visited many jails and prisons over my the course of my career. This is what that is. I mean literally, this is what that is. Theres no distinction between this and a prison in terms of the kind of the design of it, in terms of the way people are housed and in terms of the way people are treated. So there is that. Maria teresa, looks and sounds and smells like a prison. It is a prison. And i think that what the American People are outraged for is that they recognize that the president has basically overstepped his authority. When he says that this is something that democrats that the democrats are trying to politicize it, the American People are outraged regardless of party because they know that its morally wrong to separate a family, especially in the most vulnerable of conditions. The people right now that are at the border, this is not an open immigration policy, this is a Refugee Crisis that we are witnessing. And its very, very clear that he is trying to politicize it when he says that the republicans should not move on immigration until after the election. That is lack of authority and lack of leadership. And i encourage folks to join us in tornillo on sunday. We are going to be marching against this. Stopseparation. Org. We have a whole swath of individuals coming from all parties to ensure that this does
not happen again in the United States. And thats in tornillo, texas, on this sunday . Correct. Maria teresa and jonathan, thanks. Well, coming up next, tom arnold. Tom arnold is here. Id like to tell you whats going to happen, but this is tom arnold were talking about. We dont know whats going to happen. We know hes been spending some time with Michael Cohen. We want to hear about that. But lets see what tom arnold has to say. When we were dating, we used to get excited about things like Concert Tickets or a new snowboard. Matt whoo whoo jen but that all changed when we bought a house. Matt voila jen matt started turning into his dad. Matt mm. Thats some good mulch. Im awake. But it was pretty nifty when jen showed me how easy it was to protect our home and auto with progressive. [ Wrapper Crinkling ] get this butterscotch out of here. Progressive cant protect you from becoming your parents. Theres quite a bit of work, cause this was all this was all stapled. But we can protect your home and auto when you bundle with us. But we can protect your home and auto
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fixer, Michael Cohen, hasnt been tweeting very much after the fbi raided his home and office and hotel room seizing mountains of evidence, including audio tapes of Michael Cohens phone calls. But last night Michael Cohen retweeted a tweet from tom arnold showing the two of them happily photographed together in new york city. And then today Michael Cohen retweeted a second tweet by tom arnold which says Michael Cohen didnt say me and him were teaming up to take down donald trump, michael has enough trump on his plate, im the crazy person who said me and Michael Cohen were teaming up to take down trump, of course, i meant it. Michael doesnt get paid by vice. The hunt for the trump tapes. Tom arnold is the laughing voice youre hearing beside me right now. He is getting paid by viceland to do a series about what he calls the trump tapes, in which tom arnold will try to get his
hands on and play for us previously unheard tape of donald trump from Donald Trumps tv show and a variety of other possible sources, possibly including Michael Cohens tapes of donald trump. And here is how viceland is promoting tom arnolds series. Donald trump saying, quote unquote, Grab Them By The [ bleep ]. Talking about 16yearold girls in their underwear here, okay . Spewing racial slurs on the set of Celebrity Apprentice. Trump denies any involvement with prostitutes. Dont worry, tom arnold is on it, and im tom arnold. And youre tom arnold. I am tom arnold. I recognize you, youre the guy right there. Yes. Youve been having quite a day. I have. On twitter and on television. Yes. And the story is moving around you at very, very high speed. Well, it is. Ive tried to keep everybody happy. You cant do that. No, you cant. I cant keep anybody happy. You know what, for this time just try to keep me happy. Thats what im going to do. Forget everyone else. Thats all i care about. We have a mutual friend, stuffy walden, and youre in his documentary and so am i. Emmywinning stuffy. So watch the documentary. Back to you. Okay, so youve been hanging around with Michael Cohen a little bit so you know what that means. The fbi is now interested in you. Yes. At some point you might be talking to prosecutors. Whos to say i havent . Well, thats going to be im sorry. Thats going to be question number one. So i want to get you a little rehearsal on how to talk to them. Oh, please do. I thought i had that at cnn, but go ahead. Best way to do it is oneword answers, yes or no. Thats the best way to do it. Thats true. Let me get my prosecutor pen. So question one. Yes. Have you been talking to prosecutors . Yes. Wow. Prosecutors usually dont say that after the answer. Well come back to these things. Question two, do you have tape of donald trump using the n word on the set of Celebrity Apprentice . No. Question three, do you have any trump tapes that we havent seen or heard already . Yes. Okay, were coming back to that one. Will Michael Cohens Telephone Tapes be on your show . Yes. Yes. Okay, were going to come back to that because Michael Cohen says no. They will 100 oh, i talk too much. Lets get through the series and then well come back and review some of the testimony. Why, why is Michael Cohen, friend of donald trump, talking to tom arnold, enemy of donald trump . One word . Oh, yeah, thats a tricky one. Okay, so go ahead, you can do a sentence for that. Its not a oneword answer. Surrender. I like that. Thats a great oneword answer. Were coming back to that, thats for sure. Is Michael Cohen going to tell the truth to the fbi and the prosecutors when they question him . Yes. Why do you think im going to save this one because the last question i have for you is about something insane that happened in the last 24 hours. Yes. And you are a selfproclaimed crazy person. Yes. So youre an authority. Yes. On that, so im going to save that. A hint is, you can think about this, its about the first ladys jacket. Okay. So im saving that for the end because i need a crazy person as an authority in reacting to that. You got it, yes. Okay. So, Michael Cohen has been watching you on tv. Mmhmm. And youve said that you on tv you have said you spent some time with him and youre going to spend the whole weekend with him. Right. Okay . He then tweets Michael Cohen then tweets oh, boy, i need the glasses. For the tiny Michael Cohen tweet. Its inside your bigger tweet. Appreciate tom arnolds kind words about me as a great father, husband and friend. That was a chance, hes referring to the photograph that you tweeted, that was a chance public encounter in the hotel lobby where he asked for a selfie. By the way, thats the way it looked to me when i saw it. Right. Then he goes on and says not spending the weekend together. Did not discuss being on his show nor did we discuss potus. So hes saying and so you responded to that. Right, right, right. You responded saying so you didnt like me on cnn either . That makes it unanimous. Does that mean you didnt like yourself on cnn . No, it was hilarious, it was terrible. I saw it. You tell him to get some rest and say i wont trouble you anymore. The last thing you need is my nonsense. Oh, and whatever you do, do not watch this show, lawrence on msnbc. Turn off the tv, michael. So hes saying youre not going to spend the weekend together. Right. Lets get the bromance clarified. Its been ongoing back and forth. Are you spending the weekend together . Yeah. You are . Yeah. Why would he say youre not . Well, i dont know you know, its been back and forth that you need to make this clear. Theres been a lot of tweeting and i tried to make it clear youre a great father. I didnt say this, i said this. And the truth is, that this wouldnt be happening if it wasnt for him. And i tried to go, okay, well, this is what you im trying to have his back like every possible way. So the tweeted photograph was not just this random encounter in the hotel lobby . Well or if it was, youre saying it became something more after that. The real truth is i probably oversold it and he way undersold it. Hes way underselling our relationship. Okay. So whats the accurate sell . Well, the accurate sell is that i was sitting with a journalist, brian hyatt, from the Rolling Stone magazine. He was talking about this whole situation and how odd that im
in the middle of it. And i have been there with Michael Cohen before and Michael Cohen and donald trump have actually sued me and then a cease and desist. Why did they sue you . They wanted me to be quiet about somebody that was in russia in 2013 with him. And so you dealt with Michael Cohen in that capacity before. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As an adversary. Yes. And what is the odds that im always in the middle of this. I said thats Michael Cohen standing in the street right there. He said, i dont believe you. I said, yeah. I jumped up, Michael Cohen came through the door of the regency. I eyeballed him and said this is either going to end well or bad. And so we had this conversation and then at a certain point of course brian hyatt has full disclosure says im a journalist. Im like, shut up so Michael Cohen takes his arm youre an investigative journalist now. Quote people that because i dont want them to stop talking. You have to obey the rules. So we have a long conversation and brian takes a picture of us. It wasnt a selfie. Which was nice of him. It goes on and on. Michael cohen goes, you know weve met six times. I go, yeah. By the way, hes staying there hes staying there and living there. Let me ask you this. Do you believe that Michael Cohen has tapes that are about you . Yeah. Because you were an adversary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does. Where my nape is yeah. And is he going to give you those for your show . I would like to get them before the show airs. I know that they have been requested and i know because the president is involved that they have filed papers to hold on. Theyre going through them right now. Its a process, theyre checking they have whatever that process is. So when you say yes to the question of will Michael Cohen tapes be on your show, your show doesnt debut until september. Is it that youre just hoping the tapes become public through the legal process, and therefore they will be on your show . Michael cohen is an episode of our show. I will tell you that right now. We are filming an episode about
Michael Cohen. But he says hes not cooperating with your show. Hes the star of the episode of the show. He keeps tweeting i dont know what to say. You can do an episode thats about him that he doesnt cooperate with. Theres a lot of video you can use. You know, lawrence, you know this to be true. Sometimes people say theyre not cooperating but theyre fullon cooperating. He has totally cooperated with me and with the good guys. The good guys . Yes. Which good guys . Yes, the real good guys. He is he is cooperating with im on the good side of this whole thing. Youre on the good side of this whole thing. My show is about pointing out to people like mark burnett who have all The Apprentice tapes, you want to be on the right side of this because this is going to go down. Donald trump, you just had the liar, its going to go down. Id like to see the tapes. And Michael Cohen is cooperating on the right side of this right now. So the right side, does that include the fbi and the prosecutors . Yes. So hes cooperating with them already . Yes. 100 . And how do you know that, he told you that . He didnt say those words. But i know that. What were the words he said . I know people to indicate that. Thats okay, i understand. Im with you. You know that. And you said youve spoken to prosecutors . Well, i have. Lets not hit that so hard. Not about anything in your distant past. Oh, yeah. About Michael Cohen or this situation, anything not about Michael Cohen. Have you spoken to prosecutors about anything that involves Michael Cohen or donald trump or any of that stuff . Let me ask you a question, if you had, would you talk about it on this show . Let me just say this. Theres a unique situation that i have that has to do with how about felix sater, have you talked to prosecutors about him . Closeup of this reaction to this question. Have you talked to prosecutors or the fbi about felix sater . I will tell you that they are felix sater is also cooperating. Hes someone you know . Yeah. And you know him well . Yeah. Well enough that he would tell you whether hes cooperating with prosecutors . Okay. Were going to have to squeeze in a break here. Do you have someplace to be . Is Michael CohenWaiting Outside . Hell be back. Its like were girlfriend and boyfriend from high school. Hes going to tweet now. By the way, i missed my kids Kindergarten Graduation to be here. Im the one missing out. He talks about his kids, what about tom arnold . I love having you here but im not sure i approve of you missing that Kindergarten Graduation. Hes going again next year. Dont say anything. Hang out during commercials. Sure, im with you. I wont ask you any more questions nobody is watching this, right . Its actually kind of we get a pretty big audience on friday. I know you do. I watch it every night. And its live tv so you cant take any of it back. Well be right back and tom arnold i hope will still be sitting here. Liberty mutual accident forgiveness means they wont hike your rates over one mistake. See, Liberty Mutual doesnt hold grudges. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise their rates because of their first accident. Liberty stands with you. Liberty mutual insurance. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. Prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Dont start humira if you have an infection. Help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. Talk to your rheumatologist. Right here. Right now. Humira. Heartburn and gas . Now fight both fast new Tums Chewy Bites with gas relief all in one relief of heartburn and gas tum tum tum tums new Tums Chewy Bites with gas relief
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we have a person thats in belarus do you have any tape that is worse than what we heard on the access videotape . I think you know, him on howard stern bragging about howard stern, bragging about going into the Dressing Room at the miss deep universe, i dont know that theres anything worse than that. A producer from The Apprentice saying he heard him say the n word 17 times. You know. In other words, saying that and mark burnett owns all those . Yeah. By the way, when the producers tell you that, the truth is that in that show, trump is wired most of the time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Almost all of its been 12hour days, the boardroom set, 15 cameras. They have a massive archive. Massive. The decision is mark burnett, who owns those, has those in his custody. He does. Hes kind of shielded them in a corporate shield. I went to his offices. But people believe like that
producer who is telling you that, that those 17 uses of the nword would be on those tapes . Oh, yeah, yeah. I know exactly the year. But its not only that. Sexually, he said i want to f youre fable the sam was so bad the producers pulled him out four times. Four times they pulled him out. California state law what youre describing there is worse than what we heard on the Access Hollywood tape. Right. Youre right there. The direct right. Then mark burnett has an obligation. So ive given him the opportunity. I went down to his offices. The mgm corporate offices. You know him . I absolutely do. I said, i need those tapes. And he said, nothing is worse than saying grab her by the pword. Can i say that . Grab her by the [ bleep ]. He goes, trump wants them and you want them. Im not giving them to either. Plus my son was his ring bearer in his wedding so he told you that donald trump wants the tapes that mark burnett has in custody . Yes, that he and his lawyers, Michael Cohen, are trying to get those tapes. And i want him to he goes,
im not going to give to it either of you, mate, thats how i do things. At the time im like that seems fair. But no already those tapes might become public because theres a lawsuit. Gloria allred, yes. Gloria allred has a lawsuit, through discovery she might be able to obtain for her clients some of those tapes. Because its a Celebrity Apprentice contestant who is suing them. Yes. So that might an source where those tapes come out. Uhhuh. You said when i asked you why is Michael Cohen talking to you, the kind of brilliant oneword answer you gave was surrender because you are a trump enemy, and here is a trump friend talking to you. So does that mean that Michael Cohen is surrendering in your mind to the inevitable that hes going to have to tell the truth of what he knows about donald trump . To people like you and the prosecutors . What he has left, trump is like, Michael Cohen, what . Who . That guy . I dont know. He worked a little bit for me. Hes not my lawyer. And then ivanka and everybody is bad mouthing him to the press. Ivanka is the biggest leaker in the white house. Did Michael Cohen tell you that . No. Okay. If i say, then who told you that . One of the other fbi sources. Ill tell you privately because i dont want them to get in trouble. You probably know that. But notice how many not bad stories are about jared and her . You think there would be every day. You got to figure that. But Michael Cohen and his wife is smart. Very smart. Theyre like, what do you have left . We dont have any money. Oh, we have the truth. We know everything. He knows everything. I mean every bad deal. Hes so incompetent, trump. Look at how hes handling that terrible thing at the border. He makes mistake after mistake, puerto rico. Hes incompetent. Michael cohen is in a very expensive hotel. He has the most expensive has had the most expensive lawyers in the world at hundreds of thousands of dollars a week by some estimates. Hes not working for hes not getting any money for the show. He has zero income basically at this point in his life. So he is financially pressed to put it mildly. Is that your impression . Of course he is. He cannot continue to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a week to lawyers. Is that your impression in talking to him . Theyre working out something, im sure. And his wife is it his wife who said to you, what else do we have . We have the truth, or was it Michael Cohen. She said it to him. I mean thats what listen, he knows who i am. He allows a picture to be taken, knowing. And i said, boy, this is going to keep trump up tonight, and he knows whats happening. A reporter from nbc calls him first, before calling me at 7 30, two minutes after this, and says, are you going to be on tom arnolds show, the hunt for the trump tapes . And he said call tom. Thats a fact. That reporter knows so he so he didnt say no, tom arnold is crazy. He said, call tom. He said he knew the photograph would irritate the president s yeah. He deliberately participated in that photograph . Of course he did. To irritate the president . Of course. He knows how the president is an Insane Person and everything irritates him. Did he tell you he was disappointed the president isnt paying his legal bills . No. He didnt have to no. But, you know, first of all, i want to do everything i can to irritate the president. I would have taken the i was gentle about that. I was like, oh, my god, we are doing this. This is on. By the way, i tweeted at Michael Cohen and at the president constantly. Weve also had these legal stuff. To all of a sudden make peace, which felt good, and im like, hey, dude, lets go head to head against this clown. Let me get you the question youre uniquely empowered to answer because its about a crazy thing, and you said youre crazy. Yeah, i am. 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