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He got his first russia lawyers and the first statement me put out misspelled the world president. Normway is pretty good, state of the uniom is pretty good. And not one firing. I was listening to your interview with congressman schiff, he said toward it is end when we see the transcript thats news you created i didnt know we were going to see the transcript when we see the transcript of this meeting in which they voted to release the republican memo. Well be able to tell that there were republicans in that meeting who are dragging their feet and forced to do this and arent really with it, but they are voting to do it. And thats what i do not understand. I do not understand why republican members of that committee, who dont think this is a good idea are voting for it. I dont know what the committees power to persuade, the chairmans power to persuade, i dont get it. If a couple republicans peeled off and said lets let the fbi and Justice Department reveal it to see what kind of damage well do to National Security by releasing this information, we never in the history of congress released information like this before lets let the professionals look at it and tell us how dangerous it is. It would only take a couple republicans to have problems with that. But they all went along. Including ones that have Law Enforcement and intelligence backgrounds themselves. We might get the transcript as early as tomorrow we know what well be doing before the state of the union. Thats right. Franklin roosevelt has a bigger list of accomplishments than any other president because of the time he served, the pft period he served, and he served longer. More than other things he pulled the economy out of the worst depression, created social security, won world war ii and created the federal bureau of investigations. And only 13 president s, prior to donald trump have dealt with the federal bureau of investigations, beginning with Franklin Dell nor roosevelt. And none of them were crazy, one was a cook. Richard nixon tried to get them to block the watergate investigation and that ultimately brought Richard Nixon down. But nixon never hinted at that publically, the stuff he was trying to do at the fbi. Nixon never tweeted his antagonism toward the fbi for investigating him. He wouldnt dare publically intimidate the fbi. But donald trump is not half as smart as Richard Nixon. So he has spent the better part of a year attacking the fbi and the Justice Department for investigating him. Which, of course, makes the need to investigate him all the more urgent. But Andrew Mccabe will no longer have a hand in that investigation or any fbi investigation. The only Deputy Director of the fbi and former acting director of the fbi to be publically attacked by the president of the United States repeatedly decided to quit the fbi this morning. A couple of months sooner than he was reportedly considering retiring. And he was only considering retiring then because he believed he had become too much of a distraction to the fbi given the president s public obsession with him. Andrew mccabe has had a 20year career in the fbi, beginning in the new York Field Office where he was on the s. W. A. T. Team, he then became the first director of the high value detain knee gp but all donald trump had to know about Andrew Mccabe is james comey appointed him to be the Deputy Director of the fbi which made Mccabe A Comey guy. And no fact we have yet found no anecdote, nothing written about the Trump Administration, expresses how deeply and thoroughly and preversely donald trump hates james comey and the comey team more than what nbc news learned today about the day the president fired james comey. Jared kushner had foolishly advised the president that the firing of comey would be well received. So the president was no doubt watching television in shock at the outrage that instantly erupted over the firing of james comey and the drama that then filled cable news tv screens as james comey was shown boarding an fbi plane in los angeles having just received the word that he was fired. The tv cameras stayed on the plane as it taxied to a takeoff from los angeles to bring the fired fbi director home. And today, harold lee of nbc news reports the day after donald trump fired james comey he became so furious watching television footage of him boarding a government funded plane back to d. C. That he called acting director Andrew Mccabe to vent. Trump demanded to know why comey was allowed to fly on an fbi plane after he had been fired. These people said mccabe told the president he hadnt been asked to authorize comeys flight but if anyone had asked, he would have approved it three people family with the call recounted to nbc news. The president was silent for a moment and then turned on mccabe. Suggesting he ask his wife how it feels to be a loser. An apparent reference to a failed campaign to state office in virginia that mccabes wife made in 2015. Mccabe replied, okay, sir. Trump then hung up the phone. Proving once again that no smaller or more vindictive mind has ever occupied the presidency of the United States. Joining us now david frum Senior Editor of the atlantic. Also with us julia ansley, National Security and justice reporter. And harry lipman, Deputy Assistant attorney general. Harry lipman, what does Andrew Mccabes departure mean for the investigation . Its hard to say what it means for the vrinvestigation, except i think the bureau has been cowed. We have another breathless day of news and you get used to taking a couple days to assess. This really feels like a dark day to me. The sort of institutions you look to to check trump. The professional Law Enforcement staff or the congress now look to be both either cowed or complicit in his absolute assault on the Mueller Investigation. So we with the release of the memo well want to know whether theres going to be now Rod Rosenstein in the cross hairs. And just in general, i think the fbi is a shaken place this evening. David frum, your announcement that he left today. From the beginning of the presidency its been clear, you can have the donald Trump Presidency or the rule of law, not both. Today was a good day for the donald Trump Presidency and a bad day for the rule of law. Not just the early departure of an acting fbi director that President Trump didnt like. But also the mobilization of the entire majority of the house committee, that was created to protect against the excesses of the intelligence. That committee acting as the president s personal pr team. There was indications that Andrew Mccabe would retire in march when he reached a point in his federal employment where that would make sense in terms of his future benefits, but what happened and what made it happen today . This is coming about six weeks before we would have expected mccabes planned retirement. He would have stepped down with his retirement, gotten all the benefits hell still retire with that. But hes stepping aside from his position at Deputy Director. We know that it was because he was under pressure both from the president and the administration, putting broad pressure on the fbi, on him specifically, like what carol lee laid out, and also from chris wray, there were reports that emerged tonight about an Inspector General report thats expected at the Justice Department that lays out mccabe and comey and their handling of the clinton email investigation. And for whatever reason, wray speaking to mccabe, that made mccabe think he needed to step down because of the pressure. Thats the next thing were chancing we want to know what the pressure was, whether or not it w it was valid. We have seen a furthering of the polarizing lines between the republicans and democrats. And mccabe stepping down is being interpreted differently by republicans who believe that he was in charge of or oversaw a completely bias investigation or oversaw a clinton investigation in a bias way and democrats who think that he was pressured out by a president who doesnt have respect for the fbi. Senator widen is one of the senators who has concerns about this. He said tonight fbi director wray needs to testify in pluck about his role over the last few months during trumps attacks on mccabe. Has he stood by his Deputy Director or given into pressure . That would be another unprecedented Senate Hearing if ron wyden gets his way. Its one unprecedented thing after another. But wray had stood by steadfastly and suggested he would resign if they tried to oust mccabe but as julia said. Theres apparently something in the another shoe to drop in this ig report that hasnt issued yet and you know the ig has been called up to the by the majority by Nunes Committee to talk to them tomorrow about it. Well see what he reveals. But theres going to be something they use to try to lam baste mccabe. Special act Andrew Mccabe stood tall over the last 8 months when small people were trying to tear down an institution we all depend on. He served with distinction for two decades is what john kelame tweeted. And President Trump will take that as proof he should have been fired he was a james comey guy. Can we say how demented it is. The Trump Administration trying to shut down an investigation the reason were firing all these people is in order to avenge some wrong against Hillary Clinton. And this is maybe a point where Hillary Clinton, i know she has a lot of wrong feelings against james comey, if she wants to do her country one final service she needs to declare an amnesty on the handling whatever she may feel about the handling of her email, say do not fire these people on my behalf. Do not make what they did against me for shutting down the fbi and turning it into Donald Trumps disinformation shop. We see eric holder also tweeting praise for Andrew Mccabe. Certainly in the Republican House and possibly the senate, definitely the white house, eric holder saying fbi Deputy Director Andrew Mccabe is and has been a dedicated servant. They believe that proves their case. Right the idea we were talking about before how polarized this investigation has become doesnt help much to have someone like james comey or eric holder standing up for Andrew Mccabe but lets remember hes someone who served under different administrations, he served at the fbi since 1996, served under democrats, republicans, under robert mueller, james comey and someone who could have cashed in his position for a lot more money earlier. But he has stayed there. I think thats what these reactions are coming from today. There are people who say the fact that someone who has been part of the fabric of this agency is having to leave under these political pressures is a problem. And they think that its a red herring for whats really happening in this administration and really is unprecedented in terms of the relationship between the white house and the fbi. Lets listen to the president s explanation for to his followers and supporters about why Andrew Mccabe should go. He was asked this just last week. Listen to this question and answer. Should mccabe go . Should mccabe go, mr. President . Mccabe got more than 500,000 from essentially Hillary Clinton and is he investigating Hillary Clinton . So, david frum, two lies there. Number one, mccabe did not get 500,000, he did not get anything. He certainly did not get anything from Hillary Clinton. His wife as a political candidate got about 500,000 from a pac controlled by the then governor of virginia. Having nothing to do with the Hillary Clinton. The president , in explaining his position on the Deputy Director of the fbi can tell lies that just sa just sail right through. Can we suggest that Andrew Mccabes wife, who is a person in her own right, was running for state office, where they deal with the budget, whether or not cars should be taxed more, roads, highways, whether thereby a subway that opens inside dulles airport. They have nothing to do with the work of the fbi. The biggest lie of all, lawrence, at the time she was running he had nothing to do with the clinton investigation in the fbi. It wasnt until after the election he took the reigns at actual. Exactly. Thank you, appreciate all of you being here. Coming up, republicans took a major step in their attack on the Mueller Investigation today by deciding to release that classified material that the republican staff of the House Intelligence Committee has simply created themselves. And later, President Trump promised he would save peoples jobs. Especially save those jobs at the carrier manufacturing plant in indiana. One worker at that plant whose job was not saved feels betrayed. She will join us. Shawn evans its 6 am. 40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave. And at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. Today were bringing you americas number one shave at lower prices every day. 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The democratic staff of the committee has written a counter memo that provides context and explanations that are left out of the republican memo. The democrats voted to release that memo but the republican majority voted to keep the democrat memo secret. Adam schiff just told Rachel Maddow that he believes the committee crossed a line. Heres what he said after the committee voted. In my view, when you have a deeply flawed person in the oval office that flaw can affect the whole of government and today tragically it infected our committee. Joining us is Charlie Savage and ron klain. Charlie, i am confused about two things. And how can devin nunes, as chairman of that committee, who has recused himself from matters involving this investigation suddenly just dip in and out of that committee and decide to exercise his powers as chairman whenever he feels like it, as he apparently did today, on this vote . How does he do that and why do republican members go along with that . It seems that there was less than met the eye from devin nuness recusal. He said he was going to do that and kept on running it and meddling it and clearly the not so hidden hand behind all of this. Another interesting thing that was said on Rachel Maddow the last hour was that some of the republicans were being strong armed by going along with this and well see that when we see the transcript. Thats something im looking forward to reading. How do you strong arm a republican that thinks this is wise . You have worked on a committee where you try to get a vote that you dont have, even on your own side, i worked on two committees where i tried to get votes on my side of the committee that i struggled to get. I cant imagine what pressures you would bring on a vote like this. Its especially ironic here in this committee, the intelligence committee. As you know these committees in the house and senate side were set up in the 1970s as a check on president ial excess. Theyre the least partisan committees. Theyve stood up to president s. And now to see all these republicans throw off the guise of oversight and put on the trump hat and do his bidding on a political matter, its a Shocking Development and it really represents a real turning point in the history of these committees and their role in having some kind of accountability and checks and balances in our government. Charlie, your in your opinion is reporting that Rod Rosenstein could be the real target of this memo because he approved extending the surveillance on the former Trump Campaign official, and the republican staff of the committee is finding fault, it seems in the memo, with the underlying elements of that request to extend that surveillance. Thats right. I think of course, we havent seen the memo yet. It sounds like were going to see it pretty soon. Our understanding of it is that its essence is that the Justice Department used information from Christopher Steele of the famous steele dossier in the application that went with the fisa, and didnt explain he was working for democrats gathering that information, even if he was a reliable source before. From that, it didnt say it was democratic money or anything like that at all. Thats the essence of the complaint. It suggests the whole thing is draped in scandal and furthers this narrative that a ka ball of sel louse antitrump officials conspired to create this under false pretenses and set the whole russia investigation into motion. I think the most significant part of it, as far as we understand it now, is that it then goes on to say and in 2017, Rod Rosenstein, now the newly installed Trump Administration Deputy Attorney general, signed off on extending the surveillance, which meant he put his name on resubmitting the same information. So if it is indeed a firing offense, a terrible thing to have put steele information in this fisa application, Rod Rosenstein the man standing between trump and mueller is in the cross hairs here. Were getting nbc news reporting on this right now from the white house indicating an official at the white house saying no decision regarding the memo, its contents and possible release is planned before the state of the union. So the white house is going to review this memo and decide whether the president approves the release of it but not until after the state of the union. That makes sense. If it was released before the state of the yawn yun, the state of the union would barely get covered. So we can understand that. But this notion of what is proper to put in front of a judge for any kind of fisa warrant, the idea that the house of representatives would decide what that is, instead of the prosecutors, the investigators working on the case, and the judge himself or herself who considers that evidence because the judge is not a passive character in those hearings. Thats right, lawrence. And its no surprise after pounding the table on release the memo, the white house is having Second Thought osthe timing. Heres why, whatever went wrong in the Justice Departments application, if it did, to get that fisa surveillance continued, they had to show in the previous exercises of that surveillance they were getting useful information showing that carter page was a russian agent. So the judge would not have reknewed that application if useful information demonstrating that a trump associate was a russian agent wasnt be produced. So maybe there was some keystone cop action here, but there are also some keystone criminals here as well. And i dont think that will reflect well on trump when that side of the information comes out. Thank you both for joining us. Really appreciate it. Coming up next, an article of impeachment has been written. Thats what David Leonhart wrote today in his New York Times columns. An article of impeachment against donald j. Trump. David joins us next. Need a change of scenery . Kayak compares hundreds of travel and Airline Sites so you can be confident youre getting the right flight at the best price. Cheers kayak. Search one and done. Im the one clocking in when youre clocking out. Sensing and automatically adjusting to your every move. Does your bed do that . Im the new sleep number 360 smart bed. Lets meet at a sleep number store. Waysthe roasted core wrap. Fat. robotic voice 3, 2, 1. Not cool. Freezing away fat cell with coolsculpting . 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And seven months later he walked away from the job that the people elected him to do, and he got on that helicopter and left washington, left the white house, the presidency. And he walked away because the House Judiciary Committee voted to approve three articles offism impeachment against Richard Nixon, republicans convinced him he would be convicted. So he resigned. The first article of impeachment was for obstruction of justice it said he has president obstructed of justice. The vote on that article of impeachment was 2711. All 21 democrats on the Committee Voting in favor of that article of impeachment, along with six republicans voting in favor of that article of impeachment but 11 republicans voted against it. In fact, most republicans on the committee voted against each one of the three articles of impeachment. So although republicans were not in lock step defense of the republican president , if republicans controlled the house of representatives then, it is not clear that the articles of impeachment would have even come to a vote. In todays New York Times, David Leonhardt used his oped page column to write an article of impeachment against donald j. Trump. He modelled it on that first article of impeachment of Richard Nixon. The items in this article of impeachment against donald j. Trump include, according to David Leonhardt, one asking james comey for a pledge of loyalty, two ordering others to leave the office so there would be no witnesses when he told the fbi director to, quote, let this go. Three, march 22nd, asking other officials to leave the room so he could ask the director of National Intelligence and cia director to persuade james comey to drop the investigation. Six on may 17th accusing the attorney general of disloyalty for allowing a special prosecutor to be appointed. Seven in june ordering the firing of the special prosecutor. 8 on july 8th composing a false statement for his son about a meeting in trump tower with russians during the campaign. Nine on july 26th, attempting to discredited fbi officials including the fbis Deputy Director Andrew Mccabe who could be a corroborating witness for james comeys conversation with the president. Ten, and this is language taken directly from the nixons airline, quote, making false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States. Joining us now the author of that article of impeachment David Leonhardt for the New York Times. It was fascinating to read and see the modeling you were able to do with these previous articles of impeachment, including a similar obstruction of justice article of impeachment against bill clinton. Thats an exhausting list and to think its just what we know in the media. I think there are more likely than not instances that we dont know that bob mueller might know about. When you see some of these elements, including lying to the american people, it seems like the certainly in the house of representatives they were they were certainly using a much higher standard of behavior than this Republican House of representatives is so far applying to this president. Thats right. And one of the things i say at the beginning of the column is look impeachment is a hard subject because i dont think talking about impeachment is great for the republicans, i dont think it persuades a lot of swing voters. So why do it. I think its important to talk about because Donald Trumps behavior clears the bar where impeachment is right thing 2for us to be doing. Even if its not a political strategy or going to any time soon given how House Republicans have lined up behind President Trump. And the nixon process, no one was advocating impeachment and then during the the year of the watergate investigation, a year of this investigation is enough, he got big applause in the room that night from the republicans at least who had no expectation of going into an impeachment process. Look partisanship is a heck of a drug, and on both sides. Ive been disappointed by how Congressional Republicans have chosen the rule of trump over the rule of law, but in some ways if you look at the history of this country, the idea that they would defend a president of their own party is not shocking. I think youre making the point there, just because this hasnt happened so far, just because people havent flipped on trump so far, those of us that are deeply alarmed by what hes doing, the way hes flouting the law again and again should not give up. Its important to continue pointing out whats going on here because at some point some of his support could start to weaken. Another interesting point, if we were to go back to this point in the watergate investigation, no New York Times oped columnist could possibly have written a nine count article of impeachment for obstruction of justice because that didnt exist publically at this point in the investigation. Im not an investigative reporter, im a columnist, its a testament to the investigative reporters to my colleagues, the washington post, the people at nbc news, theres a lot of great journal ism going on there. The one thing that struck me, with the Public Information we are able to put more details together with trump than the nixons about his obstruction. Watergate as a crime looks like it was worse based on what we know about trump and russia. But the details of the cover up and the president s own involvement looks like its worse in this case than it was back then. There are these moments on the nixon tapes where hes trying to scheme out, what could if we could get the cia to tell the fbi to back off and they could never quite pull that off. Here you have this president very directly asking the cia to tell the fbi to back off. One of nixons problems on the tapes youll hear is who should we get to ask the cia to do this, trump skips that step and does it himself. Right. Look obstruction of justice cases are hard and against a president you wouldnt bring a criminal case. My reading is you do not indict a sitting president. The remedy is impeachment not criminal charges. Theres some debate about that. But the weight of the evidence is you dont charge a sitting president. But you use some of the same standards that criminal law uses and for obstruction of justice you have to show intent. And whats so important about what we know about trump is theres so much evidence of his intent. When hes clearing the room, telling people to leave the room, that shows what legal experts call a corrupt intent when hes lying and telling his son to blatantly lie, that shows a corrupt intent. You can never get inside someones head but boy President Trump has left us a long trail of evidence that points extremely strongly toward a corrupt intent. That point you made this morning in the article when i read it about clearing the room, i dont know why i hadnt focussed on that before, but that is one of the biggest indicators of intent in this entire flow of information, really, really important point. David leonhardt thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me, lawrence. My next guest voted for donald trump. She voted for donald trump because he promised to save her job. And now she says she feels bestrayed. Trayed. Take off for mexico with expedia. One click gives you access to discounts on thousands of hotels, cars and things to do. 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My next guest voted for donald trump for president. Here is what candidate trump said that made her vote for donald trump for president. Were going to bring jobs back. Were not going to let carrier come in and just go to mexico. So heres whats going to happen within 24 hours ill get a call, the head of carrier and hell say mr. President , we decided to stay in the United States. Thats whats going to happen. 100 . By the way 100 . If i were in the office right now carrier would not be leaving indiana. That i can tell you. Were not going to let carrier leave. Were going to do numbers. There are consequences when you leave and well talk about carrier. Say what you want, indiana, ive been talking about carrier now for four months. Talking about carrier, thats what did it. Thats what locked in rene elliotts vote for donald trump because rene elliott was working for carrier and was worried about carrier moving her job to mexico. A month after he won the election. President trump elect returned to carrier and was greeted as a hero for saving their jobs before he even took the oath of office. United technologies and carrier stepped it up and now theyre keeping actually, the number is over 1,100 people, which is so great. Over 1,100 jobs. That number is going to go up substantially as they expand this area, this plant. Theyre not going to leave this country and the workers are going to keep their jobs. These companies are not going to be leaving anymore. Theyre not going to be taking peoples hearts out. But thats what carrier did. They went ahead with their plans to move hundreds of jobs to mexico and as donald trump would put it rip peoples hearts out. Trump voter rene elliott was one of those people who lost their job. She now says she feels forgotten and betrayed. Former carrier worker rene elliott will join us next. After a day like this, most people would just order delivery. But you have a recipe for redemption. 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Dont start humira if you have an infection. Talk to your doctor and visit humira. Com. This is humira at work. Anybody from carrier . We love you. How long have you worked for carrier . Ten years. How about you . 17 years. All right. Stick with me, fellas. Dont worry. That was candidate trump promising to save jobs at a carrier manufacturing plant in indianapolis. Joining me now used to work in that plant but has been laid off and is unemployed. Rene, thank you for joining us tonight. In another interview you told nbc you voted for donald trump and felt betrayed and forgotten as one of the people laid off by carrier. When were you laid off . I was laid off january 11th. And did you believe your job was saved based on what you were hearing on the campaign . Yes, absolutely. We all believed our jobs were going to be saved. When the president came to carrier when he was president elect, chuck jones, the head of the Steel Workers union there came on this program that week and he said the president lied when he was at carrier and that chuck jones was trying to explain to members, that, no, hundreds of workers were still going to lose their jobs. Was that a confusing time . Yes, it was. This whole situation has been like a roller coaster for us. When they first announced they were moving to mexico, we had to come to the realization that the plant was closing totally. And then to be given hope again by president elect trump at the time, it really we thought it was going to be fixed, he was going to make a huge difference, but he didnt. He saved jobs, yes, but he didnt save thousands of jobs. He then started attacking chuck jones in tweets. And he said in one tweet if united steel 1999 was any good they would have kept those jobs in indiana, spend more time working, less time talking. So rene, he ended up in that tweet blaming the workers for losing their own jobs. I know. And that was really heart wrenching as well because we worked hard. We worked very hard in there. And gave them 110 even though we were informed from the beginning that it plant was going to close in its entirety. So we still showed up every day and gave them 100 even after hearing that. So for him to blame the workers when he was going to save the workers i think is contradicting, i think. What would you want to say to the president if he came back to indianapolis . Why he hasnt issued a statement publicly or privately now that this has happened, why did he not hold courier accountable, unite technologies accountable for their actions. Why did they receive 15 million from the government even after they promised to send thousands of jobs, including mine overseas. What are your prospects now . Do do you have any leads for any possible jobs . I pot out resumes everywhere. And hopefully theres a company out there who wants a hardworking. The president seems to think that you are i dont mean to say you in particular, but people out of work and not finding work or complainers or not trying hard enough. In your case he actually did blame, you the workers there, for courier not keeping the jobs there in indianapolis. Do you think the president understands how hard it is for someone like you in in a situation like this. No, i dont think he sees the big picture. In terms of they didnt give us a large package in order to us to be sustained for more than a week or two. Ive always worked, and ive worked two jobs sometimes. I feel like he doesnt truly grasp, the same as he didnt grasp the fact we didnt make airconditioners. We make furnaces. So he doesnt understand fully the impact and the devastation. You know, were lost. And like i said, a lot of us showed up avenue day and gave it 110 even though we knew of the plant closing and then to get false hoeb hope our jobs could be saved, even up to the end. I wish you luck out there in the job market. Thank you so much. And i want to thank good jobs nation for keeping it out there and thank you so much for having me. Thank you, rene. The 11th hour with Brian Williams is coming up at 11 00 because it is impossible for us to cover everything we need to cover in just one hour. And brian is joining us now with a word of whats coming up. What am i going to learn . Well, also we dont get to talk because our drummers start off our broadcast, and we feel terrible about it. Lawrence, were going to slip into the conversation the new round of russia sanctions is not getting put into place tonight. Were going to talk with a member of the House Intel Committee about this memorandum and the hubbub around it. Were going to talk about the dynamic when the president walks into that House Chamber tomorrow night and so many of the sets of eyes looking back are part of the investigation of him and russia. And Chris Matthews is going to be here with us tonight to talk about the dynamic of a speech that could be successful. Also the New York Times reporting on melania trump. We have a lot. We have enough to fill an hour. Enough to fill 90 minutes without even breaking a sweat. A bunch of stuff we didnt cover. Tonights last word is next. Whoop, whoop [crowd 1] hey, youre on fire [mascot] you bet i am [crowd 2] dude, youre on fire [mascot] oh, yeah [crowd 3] no, youre on fire look behind you. [mascot] im cool. Im cool. [burke] thats one way to fire up the crowd. But we covered it. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum were pretty sure no ones everg asked howsaid microwaved. Eggs, you deserve a breakfast made with respect. Try the new bacon, egg, and cheese on brioche. Panera. Food as it should be. You might be missing something. Y healthy. Your eyes. Thats why theres ocuvite. Ocuvite helps replenish nutrients your eyes can lose as you age. It has lutein, zeaxanthin and omega3. Ocuvite. Be good to your eyes. vo do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light. Do not go gentle into that good night. Congressman john luce, Congress Woman Frederica Wilson and eight other democrats so far, possibly more will be boycotting the state of the Union Address tomorrow night. That is an announcement that i have never made before any other state of the Union Address. But such as it is in the canal of trump, thats tonights last word. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. The breaking news were covering tonight comes from capitol hill. A Party Line Vote by republicans to release a controversial memo even though justice warned it was reckless. Tonight well get live reaction from a member of the House Intel Committee. Plus as the investigators are increasingly under attack, Andrew Mccabe is out at the fbi. The reporters breaking the news on this story standing by for us with details. And whats its going to be like when donald trump walks into that chamber tomorrow night as a man under investigation on so many fronts. The 11th hour begins now