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Ever given in Lawrence Odonnell teases ever. Thats what youre going to see tonight. All right. Youre going to see that thing that President Trump did today that i agree with word for word. It finally happened on is this day 97 . Dreaming. Get home and watch, that rachel. I will. Thank you, lawrence. Also, as the clock ticks down on the president s first 100 days, if they cant have legislative achievements, at least, at least they can have legislative announcements. And so today was all about taxes, which in the Trump White House always comes back to trump tax returns. This is going to be the biggest tax cut. This is not a plan. This is a piece of paper. Im surprised it didnt come on a napkin at this point. We will let you know the specific details at the appropriate moment. One could argue the rollout of the plan was supposed to be the appropriate moment that you would have some of these details. Its a great plan. Its going to put people back to work. I find it fascinating that blowing this gigantic hole in the debt is not an issue anymore. He is the king of debt, and now were seeing it in realtime. T the people who will get a gigantic tax cut are corporations and very wealthy people, people like donald trump. Will the president release his tax returns the president has no intention. The president has released plenty of information. Ha boy, has he got his talking points down, doesnt he . This will pay for itself with growth. No tax cut has ever paid for itself through growth effect. This is pure magical thinking. You would have to hire David Copperfield to make this work out. So on day 97 of the trump presidency, with the clock ticking towards the 100th day mark without any, any of candidate trumps legislative agendas having been passed by the congress, we have seen a flurry of announcements and paper to give the impression that something is happening. Today the white house tried to deliver something on what candidate trump promised about that big tax cut. It will put people back to work. And that is all that the president of the United States had to say about his big tax plan today. But the treasury secretary arrived for a rare appearance in the White House Briefing room, and he released this piece of paper that rachel was just describing entitled 2017 tax reform for Economic Growth and american jobs. Now some of you might know that i used to write law on the staff of the finance committee where this piece of paper will have to be turned into real legislative language. No tax reform announcement or tax cut announcement in washington has ever been presented with less detail than what the Trump Administration rushed out today. When president reagan announced, Just Announced his tax reform plan, he spoke to the country from the oval office for 21 minutes. Here is just 30 seconds of what president reagan had to say. Now lets take a larger working family, husband, wife, and four children, earning an income of 26,000 a year. Right away under our plan, the value of that familys personal exemptions would be 12,000. Add to this the new higher standard deduction. And if they save a single ira, this family could reduce the amount of income subject to tax by 18,000. On earnings of 26,000, they would pay only 1200 tax. Again, about a effective tax rate of less than 5 . And in that 30 seconds, Ronald Reagan delivered more detail about how his tax plan would affect one class of taxpayer. More detail in that one class of taxpayer than all the details released by the Trump Administration today about its entire plan. President reagan went into more specificity about other classes of taxpayers, including the corporate taxation. And for tax experts and accountants, president Ronald Reagan left out some details they would like to know about. But for voters, its pretty clear you can understand what the president wanted to do. He wanted to see tax rates go down, both personal and corporate. And at the same time reduce or eliminate some deductions so that tax returns would become simpler. And one more thing, and this was the most important guiding principle of reagan tax reform, and the most difficult piece of it to achieve. Its one of the reasons it took a year and a half. The tax reform had to be what they call in washington revenue neutral. Youre going to hear that term a lot in the next few weeks. Revenue neutral. In other words, the tax reform could not reduce the total amount of money that the treasury was taking in. So in real tax reform, reagan tax reform, if you cut an income tax rate, then you have to eliminate enough deductions to make up for the money lost in the reduction of that income tax rate. Thats what tax reform is. If you dont do that part of it, its just a tax cut. We have not had tax reform since 1986 because tax reform is the single most difficult thing you can do with the tax code. We have had tax increases since 1986. Big ones. We have had tax cuts since 1986, really big ones. President george w. Bush ran for reelection on a platform of tax reform and Social Security reform. And both of those are so difficult that george w. Bush did not get even a single hearing on tax reform in the congress, or Social Security reform. Not a single vote was taken in a committee or on the floor in the house or the senate for george w. Bushs tax reform idea. President george w. Bush got absolutely nowhere on tax reform. But he did get that giant tax cut in his first year as president because tax cuts are easy. Everyone wants to vote for a tax cut. Ronald reagan was genuinely concerned with the fairness of the tax code. Now his interpretation of fairness was different from some democrats terms of fairness. But reagan did believe in fairness. And here is one of the ways he proved it. There is one group of losers in our tax plan, those individuals and corporations who are not paying their fair share, or for that matter, any share. These abuses cannot be tolerated. From now on, they shall pay a minimum tax. The free rides are over. And the only way that president reagan and the congress could end those free rides was to actually on this provision make the tax code more complicated. They introduced the alternative minimum tax to prevent people like donald trump from paying no taxes. And we saw how that worked on the pages of Donald Trumps tax returns that were revealed by David Cay Johnston on Rachel Maddows program in march. On that tax form, donald trump paid 31 million in the alternative minimum tax on an income of 150 million. And if the alternative minimum tax were not there, donald trump would have paid only 5 million. In taxes. So sometimes to make the tax code more fair, you do have to make it more complicated. All of that was lost today in a rushed presentation that included no consultation with any democrats. And it will be impossible to legislate a giant tax cut unless democrats vote for it. Because a tax cut that just loses money for the treasury cannot be done under the reconciliation rules of the senate that require only 51 votes for passage. And Ronald Reagan knew he needed democrats. Thats why he consulted with key democrats before he even made that announcement speech that you just saw. He consulted with the democrats about what he was going to try to do and what they thought he should try to do. And he collaborated with them before his announcement. And then he worked with them for a year and a half to get it done. And in the rose garden when president reagan signed the Tax Reform Act of 1986, a year and a half after proposing it, this happened. We must also salute those courageous leaders in the congress who have made this day possible. To bob packwood, dan rostenkowski, russell long, john duncan and bob dole, to jack kemp, bob caston, bill bradley, dick gephardt, who pioneered with their own versions of tax reform, i salute you and all the other members of the senate and house whose efforts paid off and whose votes finally won the day. Dan rostenkowski, russell long, bill bradley, dick gephardt. Ronald reagan couldnt have done it without them. All democrats. Thats how tax reform got done. And thats why tonight there is not a single expert on tax legislation im not talking about accountants now. Im talking about tax legislation. Not people who worked on wall street or covered taxes from wall street. Tax legislation. People who have worked on tax legislation there is not one who can honestly say that they see any way for this piece of paper to become the law of the land. Joining us now, David Cay Johnston, Pulitzer Prize winning tax reporter who founded d. C. Report. Org, a Nonprofit Organization that covers the Trump Administration. Also with us adelson currently works with the center for American Progress action fund. David, there are so many elements to go into here. But of course in the White House Briefing today, one of the very first questions was in effect how does this affect donald trump. Lets listen to this question about the tax returns. Will the president release his tax returns so that the president has no intention. The president has released plenty of information. And i think has given more Financial Disclosure than anybody else. I think the American Population has plenty of information. Let me just finish john carls question for him that the treasury secretary didnt want him to finish. So that we can know how this tax bill affects donald trump. And part of what is astonishing in this, i dont know what to call it. Its certainly not a plan. But one of the things that is astonishing is an interesting thing about the math. The bottom right would be 10 . The next is 5. They would jump to 25. And then when you get to people with really high incomes, they only go up 10 more. If you have a really progressive system it would be 10 to 20 to 25. And donald trump is going to see his rate fall to 15. This is just absolutely astonishing. Part of what i dont understand about this is well, i guess i do understand it. Donald trump at the moment is going to be able to say look what i did. Im proposing the biggest tax cut in the world. It has no chance of happening. What does that tell you about Donald Trumps ability to manage the federal government . Its all bluster and talk. Well, adam, we got word last week suddenly that the white house staff was shocked that the president wanted to make an announcement. He wanted to announce his tax plan this week. And they didnt have one ready to go. So this was understandably the best they could do. I want to put up the tax brackets just to let people look at the current tax brackets. And what would be the trump tax brackets. And notice something about the bottom tax bracket. Theyre both the same. So the lowest earning taxpayers under the trump tax pn get absolutely nothing. There is just massive rewards as you go up that income scale. One more thing about that, as you know, adam, youve seen what people hand out when they hand out real tax plans. The socalled distribution chart that accompanies all real tax legislation. And even at the memo level in washington. And the distribution chart is the part that says this is how it will affect the different classes of taxpayers based on income. Here is how much money will go to the various taxpayers. Here is how much will be taken from the various taxpayers in this thing there is not each a hint that of here. No. I think people are being very generous in calling this a plan. Its talking points. Thats all it is. It doesnt pass the laugh test in terms of seriousness on the hill. You know, as you sort of alluded to, this is something that is going to have to have democratic support. You basically have a page of bullet points that are designed to do nothing but hand out massive giveaways to big corporations in the top 1 . In addition to being completely unserious, i dont see how its viable. David, one of the ways they raised revenue in here, because you have to raise money, even if you dont make it balance you to raise some. One of the items is the elimination of the federal deductibility for state and local taxes. The first time we saw that proposal was in 1986 by president reagan. It was right there in his 21minute announcement they dont have time to show you the whole thing. They couldnt get that through. The opposition to that is enormous in congress that probably wont get through now. And so when you see people coming up with tax bills that include things that have been not just defeated, but just kind of wiped off the map of legislative possibility in the history of that arena, and they say this is one of the crucial elements of our piece, you know. Well, actually, if youre under the alternative minimum tax, and ive been under it almost every year since it took effect in 87, you do lose your state and local deductions. But this plan would leave only two things. Mortgage interests, which drives up the price of housing and therefore is not smart policy. Can i ask you than . Lets say im a big Real Estate Developer and i sell very expensive apartments in places like new york where they have very high mortgages. Would it be in my interest to preserve the mortgage Interest Deduction for the people buying apartments from me . Yes. Because it inflates the price of housing as people try to buy the tax benefit. And the national r50e89s Association Realtors some years ago said for houses over a quarter million, it was about a third of the price you pay. Secondly, if youre a Police Officer or firefighter who has to get your uniform cleaned you would lose your deduction under schedule a, under this trump plan there are a whole bunch of things people would lose. Do you want to say plan . This isnt a plan. This is con artistry. Leer the two words that dont apply, adam. And its the reason i crossed out the word reform. This is not tax reform. You could turn this into that with collaboration, it could come out in tend as tax reform. Its not what it is now. Its a tax cut. And its not plan. Its really hard for those of white house have ever seen what a plan looks like on paper to call this a plan, especially when that item i just mentioned to you, the single biggest deduction elimination thats in there, which is the elimination of state and local taxes, its not actually specified on this piece of paper. The only reason i know it is that the treasury secretary answered a question about it in the briefing i. Thats right. I think the fact that were seeing this plan today has a lot more to do with the fact that its day 98. Were two day away from the 100 day mark, and trump has virtually nothing to show for his entire presidency. I think what he wanted to do is introduce a piece of paper that would generate some headlines for him that said he did something, that he introduced a plan, and it was successful in so far as it did get some of that coverage he wanted. But, you know, this is about him rushing to try and show that he has accomplished something, anything with his first 100 days when he really hasnt. Quick last word. Remember when donald said Hedge Fund Managers and equity Fund Managers are getting away with murder . Yes. This is the murder. He is helping them get away with it. David cay johnston, adam jentles jentleson, thank you both. I really appreciate it. Coming up, youre going to watch this amazing video from this afternoon here on msnbc. Katy tur interviewing a republican member of the house who changes his position on the new the socalled new Health Care Bill in the interview. She just has to say one thing to him, and he flips right there. This is the mustsee tv of the day. Also later, the Senate Intelligence committee has some questions about meetings Jared Kushner had with russians that he forgot to mention on his security clearance questionnaire. Newly advanced gln see in your blind spot. 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Youve been hearing a lot of talk about the revival of the trump repeal and replace of the obamacare thing. And so far all of it was just talk, until today when suddenly there was an important breakthrough. The Freedom Caucus, the group of ultra conservative House Republicans who blocked the trump Health Care Bill announced that they were supporting a new version of the bill in which even more people would lose Health Insurance. And so this afternoon, republican congressman mo brooks, a Freedom Caucus member, came on this network to say that he was tickled pink about the new bill. That was his phrase. Tickled pink. He was. He told katy tur that the house is ready to pass it. And any time paul ryan could bring it up this afternoon, tomorrow, next week, it will just fly right through. And then in the middle of the interview, at exactly 2 22 p. M. , this happened. Im tickled pink that the Freedom Caucus has been able to give states the power, the authority to fit their Health Insurance policies according to the needs and financial abilities of the citizens of those states. What about those who are in other states who do have a preexisting condition . Maybe there is a child with cancer or a Family Member who was suffering from a heart disease. What do you say to those who are not in a state that has decided to protect them . What do you say to those families, to that child, to that mother, that father, that grandparent . This bill still has a lot of imperfections. Im hesitant to vote for it, although im a lot closer to yes than i have been. From tickled pink to hesitant to vote for it. Just like that. Right here on msnbc. It took about a minute for Freedom Caucus member mo brooks to completely reverse himself on live tv about his support for the bill. He just had to hear katy tur mention one child with cancer, and he flipped. And then four hours later, four hours later, congressman brooks announced he will vote for and support the bill. And thats how solid the support is for the new Health Care Bill that does not exactly exist as a bill. Its just, you know, one of those double space typed pieces of paper that kind of looks like a memo and isnt even quite a memo. Speaker paul rhiyan knows that, that thats how solid the support is which is why he has no intention on bringing to it a vote. Can we see a vote on it . Well see. That is not the way legislative strategists with a plan get. When we get the votes is congressional talk for we arent even close to getting the votes. The fundamental legislative rule in washington is the longer you give members of congress to make up their minds, the longer they will take toake up their minds. Joining us sarah clicks for vox. Com. She reports on the health care debate. Also joining us former republican congressman david jolly from florida. David, i saw you nodding when you said the longer you give them to make up their minds there is the speaker. He is asked about the schedule for a health care vote, and he cant get to the door fast enough. Lawrence, youre a former hill guy loving every moment of this. I know you are. Whats fun about this is its easy to read. Its like youre watching a game where its easy to read the play. In a way, when we look at it, it doesnt really matter what the subject. Its just really easy to read the play. Eventually republicans are going to do republican things. Theyre going to pass a Health Care Bill that includes state flexibility. And mo brooks should have embraced that and said im a republican, and i want state flexibility. Boehner was the champion at setting the deadline and forcing members to get to yes by then, you have to set a deadline. Paul ryan doesnt have the big stick, though, to do that. Look, the Freedom Caucus is going to fall in line. Theyre protect bade super majority constituency. And frankly, the tuesday group, i think youll peel off a few members. I think this will pass the house. What happens then is another question. But these are the majority members who represent diverse districts. I was a republican representing an obama district. You have a very different constituency than the Freedom Caucus members who are now going into bed with donald trump on health care. Sarah, what about the senate . What im struck by is tom cotton and all the members of the senate who were publicly telling house members dont vote for this because we will not take action on it. It will die in the senate. Theyre not saying a word now. And what that says to me is they know it will die in the senate, and theyre not saying a word because they know it isnt even close to getting a vote in the house. Right. I dont think that senators are enthusiastic to receive the American Health care act. I was interviewing senator bill cassidy from louisiana earlier today, and he was quite critical of the republican Health Care Bill from the house. And he is a conservative senator from louisiana. Were still talking about a bill that will cause tens of millions of people to lose Health Insurance. So i dont think the senate is excited to receive this bill. I think there are a lot of legislative issues with actually moving this through the reconciliation process, which has very restrictive rules. Even though we are looking at more of a possibility of a vote in the house and passing through the house, which still i dont think is asserted, there are huge obstacles to moving anything like the American Health care act through the senate. Here is an obstacle. So they kind of got some tuesday Group Support the first time around. Not enough. So they move the bill away from the tuesday group and toward the conservatives, right. So here is one of the moderates saying, unnamed, if i vote for this Health Care Bill, it will be the end of my career. So this an exercise on the ego of the president of the United States, right. They are going to win the battle of health care. And theyre going to lose the war. A big war. And it might be the 2018 war. You know who else loses sheer karen handle in georgias 6. I was a former election candidate. And the disaster that was happening in washington, d. C. Almost lost me my race. Carol handle needs to realize season there is not a single republican in washington who cares about her. Because if they did, they wouldnt be doing what theyre doing with health care right now. Theyre going create more problems. The biggest political winner tonight in the United States of america is ossoff and georgia 6. The democrats must know that. They must want to encourage as much talk of the possibility of this passing the house as possible. Oh, of course. You know, democrats were skittish to talk about the Health Care Law for the past few years. Obamacare was always kind of controversial. Republicans have actually been able to do something kind of amazing. They have made obamacare more popular. You see in poll after poll, obamacares favorability numbers are rising after being stagnant for years. Democrats really want to talk about the Health Care Law right now. Because its covering millions of americans. They want to talk about the fact that the republican bill would cause 24 Million People to lose coverage. So this feels like a fight that democrats are enthusiastic to have in a way that wasnt always true. We didnt always see democrats standing up for the Affordable Care act. As we do right now. David, i want to get a quick last word out of you what you just said about jon ossoff. You plan a special election on one of these vacated seats. Ive never paid a lot of attention to special elections, as most of us dont. Ive never given a thought to how does this affect the ossoff race. Would you say the issue most helpful for him for the republicans to push during the short window of this campaign would be health care . Poll numbers say we havent done enough on obamacare. And does that allow us to turn out georgias more . The headwind that karen handel has to deal with. Trumps unpopularity does as well. I was elected a republican in the democratic district. Every time republicans did something stupid in washington, it made it harder for me. They are making it harder for karen handel. You feel it that day . For florida, i live on the beaches, is was flood insurance. Jon awes ossoff right now, this is donald trump republicans doing what donald trump republicans do. And its going to flip the house in 18 if they keep doing it. All right. You just watched me learn something. If you saw the camera shot on me you would have seen the reaction shot of me learning. David jolly, thank you. Sarah kliff, thank you. Thank you. Coming up, im going to show you the video of what donald trump said and did today in the oval office. Thats not it. It was in the oval office. And i agree with every word he had to say in the oval office. Okay, not every word. Because he drifted off into this weird thing about melania. But every word that was relevant what he was supposed to talk about. And thats coming up. I thought i had it covered. Then i realized managing was all i was doing. When i finally told my doctor, he said humira was for people like me who have tried other medications,. But still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohns disease. In clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. And many achieved remission. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections. Including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers,. 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Thats up to Law Enforcement authorities. Im not trying to evade it. But were not a Law Enforcement authority. Should he have reported money received from overseas . He should have done everything in compliance with the law. And thats whats expected of everyone in this administration. And frankly, everybody who signs a legal document. They need to make sure that theyre in compliance with whatever that document said so. Okay. So there is an example of sean spicer answering a series of questions in the way that he should. He is right. They do not decide who has committed crimes and who hasnt. Its not for them to announce that but as the New York Times Editorial Board wrote today, the flynn story isnt going away. Now that the republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee Says that Michael Flynn may have violated the law in his application to renew his security clearance by not disclosing the thousands of dollar in payments he received from the russian government. Now a moveon. Org petition wants Jared Kushners top security clearance suspended since he also failed to report dozens of meetings with foreign agents, including meetings with russian agent as soon as december 16th as flynn is required for top secret clearance. The Senate Intelligence committee wants to question Jared Kushner about his meetings with the Russian Ambassador, Sergey Kislyak and gorkov. But a meeting with Jared Kushner has not been scheduled. Joining us tim matt, a correspondent for the daily beast who has been investigating the trumprussia question. And julian edelstein. Tim mak, the significance of the Intelligence Committee wanting to speak to Jared Kushner about this, how do you read that . Well, its obvious that the Senate Intelligence committee wants to talk to Jared Kushner about his contacts with the Russian Ambassador and of course this russian banker, sergei gorkov, who as you noted was a graduate of the russian spy school as part of the broader investigation into the russian role in the u. S. Election and whether or not anyone in the trump orbit was involved in that russian interference or had ties with the russian government. You know, Jared Kushner is the person closest to donald trump who it has been publicly reported has had meetings like this. Julian epstein, how common are omissions like this in disclosure forms . Well, theyre relatively common. So long as people voluntarily come forward and clarify in a timely way, then there is no real serious issue. The real question, lawrence, is whether the omission was intentional. And its just hard for me and a lot of people to believe that these meetings in question with Jared Kushner took place several weeks before he made the filing on january 18th. And this story was in the news every single day, and on the front pages every day. It just seems it stretches the boundaries of credulity to believe that Jared Kushner when he was filling out these clearance forms did not remember his meetings with the russians. And his attorney coming forward and saying there will be more information coming for ward at some future date to complete the filing doesnt really answer the question. The real reason that this is so important legally is because there is a criminal investigation into tcollusion between the Trump Campaign and the russians. And the piece that you started with flynn, attorney general sessions, these are highplaced officials who are accused of lying about their contact with the russians. And this suggests a criminal coverup potentially. So the real legal question for the fbi and the investigatory committees was the omission of Jared Kushners reporting about his contacts with the russians part of a larger scheme in a criminal coverup of a collusion between two. Im not necessarily saying thats the case. Thats the legal question people are going to be asking. For Jared Kushner to say it wasnt a legal violation for him to sort of absolve himself of, that he is going have to say he forgot about meetings that took place just a couple of weeks beforehand. Red state, a major right wing blog, their headline when they learned about this was seriously . And thats coming from a right wing political bloirks dog. Does Jared Kushner get to say hey, im new to this. I didnt realize thats what they meant on the form no. This is not something that happened years prior or even months prior. It was weeks prior. And the russia story is one that has dominated the first 100 days. Its dominated the transition, dominated the last part of the campaign. You know, Jared Kushner met during the transition with russian officials and failed to list it there is no excuse for that. Were going have to leave it there. Tim mak and julian epstein, thank you both. Thank you. Coming up, what republican senators did not like about what they heard from the president today on north korea. Is there an elk in your bed . With sleep number, theres an adjustment for that. Tilt your tormentor and put those snores to sleep. Does your bed do that . Only at a sleep number store find final clearance prices on the cse bed, save 600. Knows how it feels to seeetes your numbers go up, despite your best efforts. But what if you could turn things around . What if you could love your numbers . Discover oncedaily invokana®. Its the 1 prescribed sglt2 inhibitor that works to lower a1c. 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Today the Trump Administration held classified briefings on north korea for members of congress. All 100 senators were invited to the white house to hear from the president , secretary of defense james mattis, and joint chiefs of staff chairman general joe dunford, as well as secretary of state Rex Tillerson and director of National Intelligence dan coates. Afterwards, the National Security team then went to capitol hill to brief members of the white house. There was no explanation as to why senators had to come to the white house. Members of the house of representatives could simply stay at the house and wait for the administration to show up there. Here is what democratic senator cory booker, new jersey, who is on the Senate Foreign relations committee, told rachel tonight about this briefing. I was going into this thinking that this sort of unprecedented putting senators on two buses would be something pretty significant. New information or indepth details about a strategy, or maybe even something more dramatic given the language of our president. Maybe it was to talk about an aumf, an unauthorized use of military force. But we got there, and it really was good good dialogue is good, but underwhelming. Joining us now, steve clemens, editor at large at the atlantic and an msnbc contributor. Steve, underwhelming is one of the kinder assessments weve been hearing about this meeting. To put i talked to a good chunk of both republican and democratic senators. One of the senators i spoke, to unnamed said that he thought it was high quality briefing. It was good to have that. But that was the only positive comment that i heard about the briefing. And as you said, we had dan coates. You had Rex Tillerson, you had jim mattis, and jim dunford giving these talks. And it was very interesting how a number of senators just sort of dismissed how unprepared and kind of out of his league Rex Tillerson was. That was another of the takeaways that i heard tonight from a number of senators who really, you know, really resented being kind of march down to the white house as the house was able to hear what they could in the house. They didnt like what happened tonight. But they would not have resented it if they came out of that building thinking this was an important meeting, and we learned a lot. Lets listen to what senator chris coombs said about it. I did not get the sense that a military confrontation is imminent, unless kim jong un, the leader of north korea chooses to force one there have been two major anniversaries that have just passed. When we had expected there might be a provocative nuclear test, or a test launch of a new missile. And that did not happen. Steve as the 100day mark approach, were looking at everything in terms of was this done because the 100 day mark was approaching . Was this done so we would get more attention to the president at work . I dont know why it was done. All i know is that Many Republican senators were steaming about the fact that they were marched down, bussed down to the white house for something that they got no new net ad on the north korean knot on what to do. And as senator coons just said, they got no indication of strat zwlichlt is somethi strategy. This is something i got from tonight, they learned nothing at all that they didnt already know. So they are perplexed. What is most interesting is i talked to a couple of moderate democrats tonight. They said the people that were really steamed about this evening were the republicans who felt awkward, and that they had a hard time defending what they had just been put through, and got no indication at all that the administration was organized and had a strategy about how to deal with the north korea problem. Steve, we have to squeeze in a break here. But we havent talked about what donald trump had to say at this meeting. 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Sgl steve clemens, the reason we showed that is because you told us there was a moment with President Trump today in that briefing with the senators that was similar in certain ways. Well, a couple of senators told me and they were very dismayed that one of the things trump did was to say he met with jingping and that he understood deeply what happened with north korea. That there was an understanding and they felt at a very human level that there had been a bond. Im paraphrasing as with the senator, the two senators i spoke to about this. So they both remarked this was a lot like bush and putin. They were reflecting on this. And that was the sense they had of what a mistake it is to over invest again in the Human Dimensions of another leader. Like somehow donald trump has moved a needle that no one has been able to move with the president of china. Thanks for your reporting tonight on your meeting with the senators. Coming up as promised, my one time agreement with donald trump. 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Nice place, by the way. Sidney is the First Teacher from massachusetts to ever win the award and the first from public charter school. That is really something special. Sidney, wed like to congratulate you on this tremendous achievement. There is nothing more important than being a teacher and certainly to being a great teacher. Youre all great, Great Teachers and congratulations. [ applause ] well done, donald trump. Sidney chafy has been at the Codman Academy for 10 years. In her humanities class she teaches about the haitian revolution, the history of apartheid, she teaches about subjects that unfortunately the president doesnt know very much about. The student population is 98 students of color. It is in a tough neighborhood in dorchester. There are too many dangers for the kids who live around there and go to that school that theyre exposed to that sidney chafy gets to. I have a particular attachment to that school and help in ways that i can. And sidney chafy, teacher of the year, donald trump and i agree on that. Thats the last word. The 11th hour starts right now. Tonight the political war of the white house tax plan. Is the president headed for another defeat . Senators at the white house. What did they learn about north korea . Plus the investigation on russia. Whats next . Well ask a member of the senate intel committee