If the chairman of the appropriations, the third most important job in the house, if hes voting against his speaker on this, then the whole world is, if you record this vote. Im not sure they would have gotten 50 of the vote if they recorded it. People are talking about how bad paul ryan looks now. The one good thing paul ryan might have done as a politician and leader today is not make his members commit themselves one way or the other because they would all be paying for it one way or the other with nobody winning. Tom cotton, other republican senators kept using the phrase, walk the plank. Ryan didnt let his people walk the plank, take a vote they would pay for in the next election and never get it through the Senate Anyway or have it fail in the house today. Thats right. Incredibly dramatic day, but really, your point is so important, it all started with those people. Without those town halls, the video you showed last night, without those people in those town halls telling real stories to legislatures who clearly never heard them before. Wasnt that the amazing part in the video . You could tell this was news to them. Legislators, even if you dont like them, they are human beings. When you get confronted with somebody you are responsible for and its within your power to either do something that they say is going to kill them or not, i mean, no matter how heartless you think your Public Servant is, every human being has to live with themselves at the end of the day. Having those personal testimonies, at so many levels, especially in their home districts, their hometowns, theres nothing else like it in politics. I remain convinced the next big act, whatever the mobilized americans decide to do next is going to blow everybody away in terms of what supposedly inevitable thing they stopped from happening. I think it has to do with resistance to the trump budget, dead in the water tonight. Appreciate it. Thank you. Today was a big win, big win for the president. The 44th president , barack obama. And it was, to put it in trump speak, aomplete disaster for the president. What donald trump and the republicans learned today is president obama really did bring change to america. President obama changed the way ericans think about health care and most americans now believe health care is a right, not a privilege. Its a right that donald trump cannot take away. Doing big things is hard. With no democrat support, we couldnt quite get there. Well take credit for that. Didnt pass because they couldnt get 215 from their own party. The president gave all in this effort. He did everything wrong here. He paid no attention to the details. I dont know if he cared about the details. I dont want to speak about specifics. At the end of the day, this isnt a dictatorship. I, alone, can fix it. Donald trump is a 70yearold rookie. I never said repeal and replace it within 64 days. My first day in office, im going to ask congress to put a bill on my desk. We will be able to repeal and replace obamacare. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated. The big picture, its a victory for, philosophically, for obama. Obamacare is the law of the land, going to remain the law of the land. Lets breathe a sigh of relief. The Affordable Care act is here to stay. Okay. Its time to discuss the legislative leadership and powers of the presidency. It is impossible, impossible, to exaggerate the enormity of what happened to donald trump today. His presidency effectively ended today. He will retain the office, of course, but not the powers because he demonstrated today, he has none. He is a powerless president. The president will, of course, still have commander in chief authority over the machinery of war, but he exercised more authority over the machinery of golf since becoming president than military activities. The rest of the presidency is about International Relations that he is already an abject failure, unwilling to shake hands with our most important ally. Handshake . The president s most important executive orders have been blocked by federal courts and now, now the president has lost his first big legislative battle. That is a sentence. I have never said before, the president has lost his first big legislative battle. They all win those battles and they win them because their parties unify behind the president. Thats the way it always works, on the first big bill. Usually, for the first year, at least, not now. The members of Donald Trumps own party in the house of representatives and the senate do not care what he thinks. They do not care what he wants. He has proved himself incapable of changing their minds, commanding loyalty and commanding their respect. Why would they respect him . Here is what hes doing yesterday, after he publicly gave up trying to win support for his own bill. [ applause ] [ horn honking ] tonight, the president , who already proven himself to be the laziest, most ignorant president in history is now the weakest. Nothing, nothing will get through congress because donald trump wants it to get through ngress. The republicans will probably get a tax cut through congress because they have had a tax cut ready to go since before donald trump ran for president. Tax cutting is the one kind of legislation that republicans know how to get done. It wont be Donald Trumps tax cut. He will be irrelevant to the process. It will be paul ryans tax cut negotiated with mitch mcconnell. And donald trump will sign it. All he is to congress is the rubber stamp for what they choose to pass. Mitch mcconnell will do what he can to confirm a Supreme Court justice not chosen by donald trump, but a name on a list handed to donald trump. A list of names he never saw before. He was told, you get to pick one of these. Thats it. Donald trump is the most powerless president we have ever seen and nothing can change that because it is who he is. He is a weak president because he is a weak person. Weak of mind, lazy, undisciplined, reckless and ignorant to the point that he amazed Republican House members. Republican members of the house of representatives are the least knowledgeable people in government about Health Care Policy and one of them told ryan lizza at the new yorker, astonished, how in over his head trump is. He doesnt get the politics or the policy of this. That was the word from inside a private meeting with the president on the health care bill. Republicans in the house have seen donald trump up close trying to make the deal. It was very clear to every one of them he did not understand a single word of the deal. He had no idea what he was talking about. Some members of the trump staff whispered it was easier to negotiate with Congress Without trump. Of course it was because trump was telling everyone who came through the door, what they wanted to hear. In congress, that means you can never, ever get a deal because you are going to have to be able to say no to someone on what he or she wants and still, still get that person to vote for your bill. That is the only way bills like this get passed. Members of Congress Vote for a bill that they dont like very much because their president needs them to do it. Thats how bill clinton got his first bill passed by exactly one vote in the house of representatives and in the senate. There was very little in it for democrats to like. It was a big tax increase along with big spending cuts in medicare and medicaid to reduce the deficit. Democrats voted for it in the end. What put the bill over the top was the belief among democrats in the house and senate if their president lost on his first big bill, his presidency would be irrelevant. Thats how bill clinton got to 51 votes in the senate. The last ten democrats to come on that bill did so only to save bill clintons presidency. It was a hard vote for them. But, that argument always works. Whenever democrats or republicans in Congress Need it, we have to pass the president s first big bill or his presidency will be irrelevant. That argument has always been right and that argument has always worked. Until today. Republicans in the house do not care about the Trump Presidency and they proved that today by crushing the Trump Presidency into irrelevance. Today, the resistance between President Trump won and the resistance on this day was republican. President trump is a man without a party in a government that only has two parties. Trump voters were convinced that donald trump could Push Congress around, any member of congress that crossed donald trump would have his or her political career destroyed by a trump tweet. He would fire the tweets into the congressional districts of the members. The congressmen lived in fear of donald trump. When the president got tired of negotiating on the health care bill, he issued the ultimatum to the Republican House that it was time to vote. It was time to shut up and vote. And if they didnt vote for the trump bill this time, they would not get another chance. The ultimatum laid it all on the line for President Trump and now we know what a donald trump ultimatum means to congressional republicans. Absolutely nothing. President trump has the lowest Approval Rating of any president in the first two months at 37 in the latest poll. That is now a higher job Approval Rating than President Trump has with his own Republican Congress. Today, donald trump did what no president before him has publicly done on Health Care Reform, he quit. He gave up. He could have said, we are going to spend the weekend working on this bill and see if we can bring it to a vote next week. If we cant, well keep working on it until we bring it to a vote. Thats what you are supposed to say. The last one ended in a signing ceremony at the white house. The one before that ended in 1994 with no bill. President clintons bill managed by Hillary Clinton didnt make it through congress. It made it through the committees, but not the floor. Remember bill clintons speech the day he surrenders on health care the way donald trump did doou remember Hillary Clintons speech the day they surrendered on the health care . No you dont because they never surrendered. Not publicly. The democrats kept drafting alternative compromises they thought might be able to get through house and the senate well into september of that session. No one ever publicly gave up on the democratic side and the truth is, you never have to admit complete defeat in congress if you are willing to at least, at least go through the motions of continuing to try because the door never actually closes on legislation, but donald trump just gave up today, that forced paul ryan to admit they were giving up. We have been wondering since the election what it would take for trump voters to realize the size of the fraud they voted for. Donald trump, the guy who said repeal and replacing obamacare would be easy, spent less than 60 days trying to do it and many of those days on the golf course before quitting because, as he had to admit along the way, it was just too complicated. And more importantly, because he is the laziest, most ignorant, most incompetent and now the most irrelevant president in history. Joining us now, the editor and chief of fox. Com and the republican strategist and contributor to the daily beast. Ezra, it seems two or three weeks ago, this was complicated. To the end, he never understood how complicated. This turned out to be a huge problem. One of the things i kept hearing, meetings with h, who re part of the ultimate closer, it was clear he had no idea how the bill worked. I think when people hear that, it sounds funny. It actually matters. When you are doing this kind of big thing, when you are asking members of congress to take a dangerous vote, you actually have to get them committed to something bigger than themselves. This is a big deal. It is worth losing your seat over. Thats what obama did. He gave a speech at the end of the push, this is worth losing your seat over. Trump didnt like the bill and didnt like to talk about it. He came in with a cynical, political closing argument. If you dont vote for it, you will lose your seat. Its not enough to get people to vote for a bill with 70 Approval Rating. Ezra, the polls show exactly opposite of the trump threat and rick wilson, everybody has the same access to those polls ezra just mentioned. If you dont vote for it, you lose your seat. The polls said the opposite. If you vote for it, you are taking an extreme risk with your seat. This was a choice for those guys where donald trump did not overperform. These guys were looking at number where is this bill was in the mid20s to high teens in almost every case for approval. The fact of the matter was, the pressure on these folks from Donald Trumps minions and the mean tweet, it diminished as the political reality set in, no matter what you think of obamacare, theres no way donald trump is going to be a guy to go out in private or public and articulate an argument for this bill that would move the numbers that would make sense. The emperor has been buck naked from the beginning. As ezra noted, i have talked to members in the meetings, basically, this guy has no clue, whatsoever what hes talking about. Hes more comfortable being a president ial truck driver rather than somebody who can argue about a serious consequential bill like this. Yeah, ezra, historically in legislation like this or complex legislation, you dont let anyone do negotiating who isnt in command of the details. Most of this has been left to chairmen of the committees who know the material the best, the congressional leaders and rarely the president on specific issues because the president is always, this is no fault of the president , going to be less informed of the details on congress is. It certainly looked like some members were having conversations with paul ryan that were unsatisfactory, then they go to the white house and have conversations with the president and the president would say, yeah, i think you are right, we should try to do that, thereby undermining whatever paul ryan said to them. You have this twoheaded monster of negotiations going on. I think thats true. I think we should look at the larger picture here. This was an atrocious bill. Yes. It was not that donald trump didnt know enough to make a good case for it, there wasnt a good case to be made for it. If there was, somebody else could have been doing it. Paul ryan could have been out there. Secretary rice could be been out there. There wasnt. When Heritage Action came out against the bill, thats a conservative group. We are not talking liberals here. They said you have to vote against this bill. Not a single conservative Health Care Policy on the list is for it. This is a bill opposed not just by aarp, but the American Hospital association, the American Medical Association and anybody that knows about health care said it was terrible. Not only was it bad, but broke all their promises. It broke Donald Trumps promise to give Everybody Health care. This is not what anybody wanted. Even if trump had known more about it, that would have made him uncomfortable with the fact this didnt go with anything he said on health care. Ezra, that is such an important point to focus on what was in the bill. It was a disaster on its face. I would add that to the issue of competence. The pushing a terrible bill is one of the signs of incompetence. You know, if you are a conservative, this bill looked if you are a fiscal conservative, this is a disaster. If you are a market conservative, wow, we reconfigured the industry to pharma. We are not reducing the premiums or deductibles or burdens imposed on people by obamacare. It doesnt fix anything and it also, just from the look and feel of the thing, its a disaster. It gives you every hook. If you are a democrat, every hook to go after the bill, putting people off insurance and maternity and Mental Health care and things that just were immediate news hooks and people understood them and there was no effort to market the bill beyond the thought that donald trump would sell it to the public. Thats saying we are going to outsource a Day Care Center to a team of serial killer clowns. Its ridiculous. You cant outsource this where it needs heart, soul and feel. Its not a heartless mechanism to throw people off their insurance to donald trump, the guy with the least sympathetic affect of any human being. They came up with a bill that couldnt be sold, then did everything wrong after that, too. Thank you both for joining us, appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, lawrence. Coming up, we have an expert panel on the chaos in the white house. 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So, with todays questioned defeat, the superman trump voters think sending him to the white house has met his kryptonite at the end of two months of sheer chaos, incompetence and weakness. With no democrat support, we couldnt quite get there with just a very small number of votes short in terms of getting our bill passed. I will not sugarcoat this, this is a disappointing day for us. With respect to the president s tweets about alleged wiretapping of him, i have no information that supports those tweets. I have recused myself in the matters that deal with the Trump Campaign. Retired u. S. Army, threestar general, an Intelligence Specialist had resigned as National Security adviser. Breaking news, a short time ago, a federal Appeals Court here in california ruled against the government, refusing to reinstate President Trumps ban against travelers from seven predominantly muslim countries. Joined by washington columnist for the boston globe and david cornyn from mother jones and msnbc political analyst. I want to look at what charles said this evening on fox news about what happened today. The big picture, i think, its a victory for philosophically for obama. Seven years since the act was put into place. The country is changed. There is now the generalized expectation that there is an entitlement to universal health care. Nick, it took a long time for republicans to grasp that concept. Thats right. It took them seven years of trying desperately to try to overturn it and 18 days of their own effort that they also spectacularly and lets hope it is behind. Frankly, President Trump articulated, hes going to try to kill obamacare and he can certainly sabotage it and blame it on its intrinsic difficulties. Thats one of the main risks ahead. Thats a power he has, to sabotage it. That would fall to the democrats to identify that, where they see that happening as much as possible, basically rush to the scene of the crime. You are right. The thing about President Trump here is, lets not forget, this is a man who loves to win. His entire brand is about winning. Today was about a spectacular colossal failure. This is on top of a number of failures in the first two months. You know, we have talked on this show before about his travel ban that failed not once, but twice already now, all sorts of questions about intelligence and this on top of it. It seems as if trump didnt realize how Difficult Health care was. He said things like we didnt know how difficult it was. Everyone in washington already knew how difficult it was. It was chuck schumer, the minority leader in the senate who had the last laugh when he said this is the most incompetent white house he has ever seen and so much for the art of the deal. I think, unfortunately, a lot of Trump Supporters may be thinking that, too, if they thought they were going to get a Better Health care deal out of it. This is shelved to be forgotten. Listen to one of the lies donald trump told when he was making excuses about this, saying he never said he could do it in just 64 days. Listen to this. I never said, i guess im here what, 64 days . I never said repeal and replace obamacare. You have heard my speeches. I never said repeal it and replace it within 64 days. I have a long time. David cornyn, he did say he would get it done the first day and other time frames. I dont think he specifically said 64 days, he might be right about that. He didnt say 64 days, he said immediately, he was the only guy to do it. We had a video where he said it would be easy, easy, easy. So, he clearly doesntemember what he said. Its a situation where he doesnt know what he said ten seconds ago. Its about the moment. To nicks point about stepping on the oxygen hose, very apt metaphor here. The one thing about donald trump, when he does these speeches for 50,000 bucks and the tells people the secret, make money like donald trump. He says the most important rule we can teach anybody in business, they wont teach you this at wharton or harvard, if somebody screws you, screw them back and screw them ten times and 15 times over. This is a guy who looked defeated now and kind of was low key about it. I believe this obsessive need for revenge will cause him to lash out and do things at republicans, obamacare, maybe everyone. Nick, Republican Congressmen are sensitive to the idea of revenge and trump being revenge. Not one of them, not one of them seems to fear that. Well, i think they fear voters more than trump, but, my greatest concern about revenge is ultimately the revenge about obamacare and we are going to see one test of that very soon when we have the house of representatives lawsuit against the extra on obamacare and if the Trump Administration does not defend against that suit, then obamacare is deeply sabotaged and president obama said today democrats own obamacare, its going to die. I fear he is signaling he is not going to defend that suit and he wants to see it succumb and blame it on obama, which would be a catastrophe to go from great victory today to covering less people because of his ineptitude. A mystery i have been waiting to see unfold, what is Donald Trumps legislative power going to be . We have seen a defeat like nothing we have seen on the first bill of the president. Things get more difficult from here. They will probably get tax reform because the Republican Congress knows how to do it. Donald trump wants to do individual trade deals with individual countries around the world. This shows today, he wont do a single one because the only thing more complex than Health Care Legislation is a trade deal with one country or multiple countries. Not to mention, legislation and whipping things through Congress Takes an Attention Span. You know, you cant just, you know, nick was saying 18 days. Obama spent 18 months on obamacare and then it was hard to get it through. He said after 18 days, thats it, im done. Im done with this. Thats all he had the Attention Span for . It doesnt make sense. He spent the day deflecting blame say thg is the democrats fought. The bottom line, he needed three dozen, there was Something Like three dozen republican deflections here. He was unable to get his own party in line because of deep, deep divisions within the republican party. If he cant do it over obamacare, something that was universally hated by republicans, its hard to see how he was going to do it on issues on the agenda. Beginning with a loss is not the way to begin. Obama, then the clintons before him, they each spent two years on the president ial campaign trail studying Health Care Policy and working on the details of it in debates before getting to the white house. Donald trump obviously we have to squeeze in a break here. We are going to come back with our panel. The House Intelligence Committee chairman, devin nunes admits what he said wednesday is not true. He has a brandnew story. You are going to hear that when we come back. You totaled your b. Nobodys hurt, but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do . Drive threequarters of a car . Now if you had Liberty Mutual new car replacement™, youd get your whole car back. 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Collection where the president himself and others in the Trump Transition Team were clearly put into intelligence reports. The president , himself, was clearly in the reports on wednesday in the white house, and now, hes not. Now, devin nunes doesnt know. So, i guess that means he now doesnt know why he ran to tell paul ryan about the reports, then ran down to the white house to tell the president. On fox news, devin nunes gave yet another reason for running to the white house. I felt i had a duty and obligation to tell him because hes been taking a lot of heat in the news media. Devin nunes thought he could help the president out with the heat hes taking in the news media. There is no governmental reason to go to the white house in what you just heard devin nunes say on fox news last night. Absolutely none. On fox news last night, devin nunes is admitting he did it for nothing but Public Relations reasons to help the sunken credibility of the pathological liar in the white house whose credibility can never be helped because he lied his way through life. Devin nunes is in way over his head. He is obviously incompetent. He has no idea how to properly handle intelligence and is now trying to publicly block his own committees progress by cancelling next weeks hearing. I think that there must have been a very strong pushback from the white house about the nature of mondays hearing. Its hard for me to come to any other conclusion about why an agreed upon hearing would be canceled. Congress jim himes on that Intelligence Committee will join us next. So when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day . Aleve, live whole not part. Tell you what, ill give it to you for half off. Joining us now, democratic congressman jim himes from the House Intelligence Committee. Thanks for joining us tonight. First of all, can you tell us what you were hoping to accomplish in next weeks hearing, what that testimony would have been and why you believe the chairman canceled that hearing . Sure, thanks, lawrence. I was really looking forward to tuesdays hearing because, remember, the vast bulk of the work we do as an Investigative Committee in this arena is not likely to happen in public. We are dealing with classified information, very sensitive surveillance, that sort of thing. Like mondays hearing, next tuesday was to be an opportunity to hear from the former director of the cia and director of National Intelligence and sally yates, the Deputy Attorney general, all of whom would have known ant the investigation as fbi director comey told us has been on nine months. They would have known about that investigation prior to leaving office in january. This was a great opportunity for the American Public to hear more and learn generally from professionals about what it looks like when russians seek to influence an election. The cancellation of this tuesday open hearing was really a blow not just to the investigation, but an awful lot of curious americans. What do you make of the chairmans reason for doing it . Well, to me its clear as day. The monday open hearing, in which we had the fbi director and the head of the nsa, who is a rough five hours for the president in which the fbi director acknowledged a lengthy investigation to use his words, hes looking into links and coordination between Trump Associates. They knocked down the tweet of the president saying barack Obama Wiretapped him. Then, of course, the democrats, we ran through all kind of questions that painted a picture of the bizarre connections of people like Paul Manafort and flynn with the russians and the fact they have hidden those connections. Thats not normal for a president ial campaign. Suffice it to say that was a painful five hours for the white house. My guess is, if they called up devin nunes and said we are not doing that again and here we are. I was impressed with the chairman monday that he allowed the hearing. No, he didnt agree with anything you were saying, but more importantly, he didnt try to contradict anything you were saying. They changed the subject to an irrelevant point. I thought wow, this is a republican chairman letting this out, letting this damage occur to the president and i was impressed with that until he, apparently, couldnt take it anymore. Yeah. Whether he could take it or not, its clear people in the white house said this is going in a bad way for us. It wasnt just the cancellation of the open hearing next week, just the bizarre, as we have come to call it, the midnight run. You would get intelligence that you wouldnt tell the rest of the committee members, wouldnt tell the staff of the committee and feel a sense of obligation to help the president with heat in the media. You know, third grade civics, we remember congress is a check and balance on the president. We are not their Public Relations people. That, of course, cast a huge question on devins objectivity and created a problem for us two days ago. Today, we get the cancellation of the hearing. Suffice it to say the democrats want a meaningful and objective investigation. We are in a tough place today. You know the chairman personally, how surprised are you by his erratic and unpredictable behavior this week . I tell you, i do know him and respect him and count him as a friend. This is not the first time we have had a week like this. He and senator burr, chairman of the senate Intelligence Committee admitted to knock down a New York Times story the white house didnt like. We have seen this sort of thing before. What makes it confusing is, yes, i do know him. In fact, inside, behind closed doors, hes constructive about this investigation. We are working on a witness list right now, as you pointed out. He allowed the open hearing on monday. We have seen a lot of inside cooperation. Of course that changed this week. Its put us in a terrible spot. On one hand, you s to yourselfwhat are we here for if we are cancelling open hearings. We dont have an outside bipartisan commission. We are the only show in town. We walk afwra the investigation and people are under suspicion. Congressman himes, thank you for joining us, appreciate it. Thanks, lawrence. Coming up, more with the panel on this whole devin nunes and House Intelligence Committee investigation and other trump messes. Grown man now. I dont want to pry. Dad. But have you made a decision . Im going with the 1000 in cash back. My son. A cash man. Dad, are you crying . Nah, just something in my eye. 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His side got out of control this week. I expect him to say, who knew that intelligence oversight could be so complicated. Everybody on the committee that ive spoken to, the democrats, all think that the hearing was canceled because trump just took a thumping from the hearing held earlier this week. And if clapper came on there, and sally yates starts talking about the administration did and didnt do about Michael Flynn lying to the president , with regard to kislyak, it would just again define the week the day and just give more ammunition to people who are investigating the trumprussia scandal. Again, that other weird press briefing today, that nunes did, he essentially conceded that he had gone off half cooked a few days ago without acknowledging that. He said he hadnt seen all the documents, he heard about it earlier in the week, and then he was rushing to the microphones. It was incredibly reckless and he was telling us he was being incredibly reckless. I want to go to your column yesterday, it was entitled theres a smell of treason in the air. It says, im also told not by a democrat that theres a persuasive piece of intelligence on ties between russia and a member of the trump team that isnt yet public. Another trump team person. I believe that there are more shoes to drop. And i think this is going to continue to stagger along. My sense of this is that there is going to be evidence of what is called a soft collusion, not a hard quid pro quo, but advanced knowledge, some degree of cooperation. I think that the challenge is going to be to connect that soft collusion by members of the trump team to President Trump himself. I think that may be very, very difficult. And for those people who are counting the days toward impeachme impeachment, i think that is going to be a critical obstacle. I think we may see a president enormously weakened by this. I mean, this we talked about earlier the health care. This is another blow that is going to innervate the presidency going ahead. I think it will be very hard to connect to show his knowledge. I was watching that hearing on monday in the House Intelligence Committee and thinking, how did they let this happen. How did the republicans allow this hearing to go on. Because as people now realize, its completely up to the chairman to have this hearing. How did the white house allow the chairman to have this hearing, and it looks like this is another case of incompetence all around, where they apparently did not understand ahead of time how devastating this welladvertisehearing was going to be to the president. Theres another thing called the separation of powers. And the whole point of the House Select Committee on intelligence is that they are supposed to be an oversight committee, providing bipartisan independent oversight on the intelligence community, and also, in this case, investigating russian interference in the u. S. Election in any potential collusion weve been talking about between members of the Trump Campaign and the russians. I think the most important bottom line question Going Forward is, can an investigation by this committee be considered impartial, independent, and credible. After what devin nunes did on wednesday, its really hard to see how it can be. Because even if youre a republican, even if youre a member of the Trump Transition Team, as he was, your job is to lead an investigation which he has said he would do independently. So to then go running to the president and brief the president on a probe of which he is one of the subjects, very, very strange behavior indeed. Including with what you referred to. The latenight appearance. Well have to leave it there for tonight. Thank you all for joining us. Really appreciate it. Coming up, in tonights last word, a very special last word by president barack obama. Hit send all on some embarrassing gas. 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I picked it up and it was the president of the united states. He got right to the point, he said, bob, im pulling the bill. There are all kinds of things that many of you would like to see that isnt in this legislation. Theres some things id like to see. Thats not in this legislation. But is this the single most important step that we have taken on health care since medicare . Absolutely. Is this the most important piece of Domestic Legislation in terms of giving a break to hardworking middle class families out there since medicare . Absolutely. We have been debating health care for decades. It has now been debated for a year. It is in your hands. It is time to pas Health Care Reform for america. Thats what it looks like when a president is fighting for his Health Care Legislation until the last minute. That was president obama the day before the house of representatives cast its first vote on the Affordable Care act. Barack obama gets tonights last word. Due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. The show goes on and a celebrity rapper enters the jail. But his arrest leaves a heart broken girlfriend behind. His personality is big. Bigger than he is. So when hes not there, its definitely an absence