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Leaving the daily show. But first its becoming known as the american sniper trial. Its ten women and two men. I just hope a fair trial gets done. Its just kind of the persona that hes guilty, period. Im going to the United States. Not because i seek a confrontation with the president , but because i must fulfill my obligation. The Prime Minister of israel has come many times in the past. Sthz is not a personal disagreement between president obama and me. Is there a back and forth going on between the president and Bibi Netanyahu . If there is, im not going to continue it from here. The president of the United States is set to ask congress for new war powers. As soon as tomorrow. Obviously right now, the middle east is spiraling out of control. So what should america do about that . Well, how about nothing. I think it would be safe to say were stuck. We need a fully funded appropriations bill for the department of Homeland Security and we need it real soon. Its clear we cant go forward in the Senate Unless youve heard something i havent. So the next move is up to the house. But first, here is your moment of zen. Here it is, your moment of zen. You made it. The fastest run across the hall. We had to rewire you for this show. Im glad youre all here, because rachel, you handled this an hour ago. I have to now handle one of the most difficults thing ive had to do in this job, and that is the news nbc announced tonight about Brian Williams being suspended for six months. I want to read the nbc news statement about this, issued by the nbc news president. She said in addition to that in addition to that statement, the head of nbc universal, steve burke, issued a smaller note to us at nbc saying this is so difficult for me. I couldnt be more bias. I like brian. Hes a friend of me. Bill carter, youre here because we need an objective outside view of this. What is your reaction to those statements tonight . Well, i mean, its disturbing and its sad. Its disturbing because they obviously found a lot that makes this serious. When we first heard about it, we thought maybe he just did some embellishment, but i think this is a sign that theres something very serious and maybe consistent. And so they had to take some action. I agree with you, i like brian enormously. Hes really good at his job, i have enormous respect for him. Hes been a very important person at nbc news, so its a tremendous blow. Ive had the occasion i remember in 2000 at the Republican Commission in philadelphia, brian is anchoring in this chair, im sitting beside him for quite a long time marveling at his skills in this job, which involves so many things and so many he had so many quick and extemporaneous issues that came up with that he had to deal with. I dont know what to make of the whole thing. Ive been pulling for him, and im not going to analyze this story is capable from analyzing from any other than a friends basis. Were lucky we have someone like lester holt at nbc to occupy that chair. Theres a question as to the institution of nbc news and its anchor and where the division is. Hes had this title of managing editor, in addition to being anchor. Hes overall responsible for the overall content on nbc nightly news. The initial decision to take him off the air for a few days before the sixmonth suspension, brian announced it was him making that decision for himself, as managing editor of his own broadcast. To hills own point as to what this decision implies about what nbc news found, thats going to be very interesting. Obviously, nbc news has a responsibility to correct any misstatements made on their air, if they were made if they were presented as news and they werent. Anything that was false must be corrected by the news division. Things that brian said about himself, not in a news delivering capacity, are a much grayer area in terms of what the responsibility is of the news division, both with division and to correct them. Thats why i wish we had more information what was behind this decision. I think theyre working on it. I spoke to a combat veteran friday night, someone who lost a limb in combat. He said, im pulling for brian. I know a lot of people who come out of these situations and their stories arent exactly straight, and he just said its not talking about war stories. So any way, ive heard real sympathy for him out there. I just think its such a difficult case and so strange and mostly shocking. I still havent processed the shock of it. Its really shocking. As an employee of this company, im quite upset about it as you are. As a journalist, sort of outside of the bit, looking at how they decided to handle it, look, people are going to take potshots for nbc for the decisions they made. I think this was an appropriate way the deal with this. So many days weve been watching twitter, facebook, he stays or he goes. When they came one this decision, i thought it was odd. Then i thought, thats probably the right way to go. Its very serious. Hes been taken off the air, which is an anchormans oxygen. And its saying his career here has been worth something. We dont know why they made this decision. The only thing they said is what brian said himself, the thing he said on the broadcast on nightly news was incorrect. We dont know if the other comments were war stories or not. Nbc has done something serious, but we dont know whether or not it is appropriate, because we dont know what they found. The Fact Checking needs to go on, and the audience deserves an answer. Im frustrated by the fact we dont know more. Devin is a writer what are we doing . Hes one of the brilliant writers for hbo and we invited him to discuss the biggest news of the night, which was jon stewart deciding he was going to leave. And half hour later, i really want to get on to what happened at Comedy Central today and what this means in your field. This is a giant situation thats just opened up over there. Its weird. Its obviously a huge thing. I got the call i didnt know about the news until i got the call to do this show. The whole industry was turned upside down. I dont know whats going on. So yeah, its all its weird. Its very weird. You know, the first thought is who is going to replace him . How are you going to fill those shoes . Look at john oliver. Look what happened thats who replaced him, and they went right inside the building. So inside the building right now, they have samantha, jason, al, weve got pictures up here, and could you put Rachel Maddows head shot up there. Have you had any calls from them . No, not unless theyre going to do anything about owls in salem, oregon. Do you want to take a big bow for the writers of these shows . Because one of the things that john oliver taking the chair shows is that he was working with hall of fame writers, so the quality of the show really held on. Yeah, i mean, its funny. When we started doing last week tonight, i did have this initial sort of this is a nervousness doing a new show like that. But i always go back to the fact that oh, no, hes done this. Hes slipped stuff right into stewarts shoes and bangs it out and was great. So yeah, i dont know, that kind of goes away when i think of that. Does the daily show go away . No. Its just a before. Craig kilborn. The daily show is the franchise and jon took it over. Thats his show, but the daily show is going to go on and they will find another host. Theyre good at that, very good at that. They put Stephen Colbert on. I think theyll find the right host, but replacing him is an enormous task. I dont envy the guy or the woman. Lets listen to what is now in so poignant moment in his fresh air interview where he talked about what would happen if he left. So kevin, that means hes home tonight missing it like crazy. And tomorrow hes going to try to grab it right back. I think hell be gone for like five seconds. Can i book you for my show tomorrow . Colbert leaves, he takes over for letterman. What is letterman doing . I thought you were going to say Brian Williams. Thats a probability. I think youre trying to ask me to do it. And beth, jon stewart changed politics. There was a time when in washington, the calculation was, if Johnny Carson did three consecutive if he did three consecutive jokes about a politician, he was dead. It turned out the rule got broken when bill clinton brought into his 1992 campaign, you know, disaster stuff with scandals and sex scandals. And johnny went up and did Something Like eight clinton jokes in a row. Inside politics, people went, thats it, its over. I thought, well, thats it. I used that math. Remember this, who is allegedly the first choice to make over meet the press . It was jon stewart. That is a sign comedy has done a better job covering politics. Particularly people who dont Pay Attention to the regular news, his show became a de facto news cast for people under 30. Thats the real danger. If he goes, will his replacement have the ability to bring a different audience to the news and to treat news as something to expos and make fun of rather than come one this high handled approach thats been the traditional way to do it . My sense is, their laughs are working off of a base of news knowledge that they have before they get to your show. Some of these jokes wouldnt work if they didnt know a lot already because they get to your show. Yeah, i mean, i dont think the audience shows up and then oh, this is something i never heard of before. I think youre watching the show because youre always interested in these topics. So yeah, the audience wants to hear more about it. Theres already sort of an understanding and they just theyre kind of we want to know more. How can you make this funny for us . How can you make us enjoy this . I think that whats really important to the humor and the influence is the credibility of the show. The daily show and other Comedy Central shows that do the news, do corrections when they get stuff wrong. Theyre credible. They bring you stuff that you can take to the bank, even if it has a lot of fart jokes in the middle of it. If a politician said anything on a video in high school, they find it and they are as good at that as anybody. Jon stewart going home, ladies and gentlemen. Dressed exactly as a friend of mine who was at the show the other night said, a friend of mine ran into i dont know in the hallway and didnt recognize him. Jon said yeah, i dress like a child. Rachel, true confession time. Do you watch the daily show as i do and look at certain things that they do and think, oh, if we could ever do it that way . I also think like, i cant believe it did it first. Now i can never do it because i cant do it like that. Its the opportunity cost with him getting to something before i had a chance to try to do it in a one mini version of what he could do. Listen, they dont have the constraints of a news show. They pick whatever they want and talk about it for as long as they want within the 30 minutes. Moment of zen or not, time to go. Youre not doing seven segments. They do seasons. They take hiatus. But when they do news segments, theyre better than us. Their production value, their credibility and the sense of humor and the swearing. They comment on the media better than anyone. Yes, they do. And we all live in fear of those comments. Were going to take a quick break. One of the creator is going to join us next. Okay, you ready to go . 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Be many officials oppose that, saying the caravan of trailer homes to washington could paralyze traffic and rob the fast Food Industry of hundreds of its Fast Food Restaurant managers. That was jon stewart. One of the creators of the daily show is going to join me next. You use tide pods . Yeah but i thought you were the queen of the pretreat soak treat soak . Those are fond memories, but those things are amazing. Once i saw what they did, i actually started to relax. Dont touch my things. Those little guys clean, brighten and fight stains. So now i can focus on more pressing matters. Like your containers. Isnt it beautiful . Your sweet peppers arent next to your hot peppers. [ gasps ] [ sarah ] thats my tide. Whats yours . They have a piece on dot com that santa claus should not be a white man at home. For all you kids at home, santa is white. He is what it is. Were just debating this because someone wrote about it. [ laughter ] [ bleep ] just got real. Santa is just white. And who are you actually talking to . Children who are sophisticated enough to be watching a news channel at 10 00 at night, yet innocent to still believe santa claus is real, yet racist enough to be freaked out if he isnt white. [ applause ] thats such a narrow yes, west virginia, there is a santa claus. Kevin, its so fascinated to watch his comedy skills develop. That take he did at the end of the video was something he didnt have refined to that level when he started that show. Thats one of those things thats part of feeling out your audience and comes with years of knowing what the crowd wants to see from you. And knowing what theyre all thinking, too. Because i was watching that clip going, what the hell . Whats going on here . Hes brilliant at that sort of taking he knows the audience and what they want to hear. Were joined by phone by liz, one of the creators of the daily show. Liz, here we are, one of the gigantic crossroads for the show that you created. The first host of the show was Craig Kilborn . Thats correct. He did about two years, and then jon stewart came in and very how quickly do you think jon stewart made it his own . I think once jon realized i have a really bad cold, guys. We figured that out as soon as i heard your voice. I think once jon realized he didnt have to be craig and he could be himself, thats when he really could settle into his own and what jon did with the show that i think is brilliant is, when it was craig, the show was, for lack of a better way to put it, more like colbert. Because there was no voice of the people. Everybody was in character. So what jon did was, he was the voice of all of us, and he surrounded himself by the fools that he perceived as the media do, and then he could play the voice of reason. It was so brilliant and it allowed him to do exactly what you were all talking about, which was to be accurate, to show the hypocrisy, and to take on the media itself. And jon stewart did not become the highest rated comedian in late night, but he did become, by an order of magnitude, the highest paid. I remember being quite shocked to discover that little old Comedy Central was capable of paying more than nbc, more than abc, more than jay, more than dave. If you think about what jon did for Comedy Central, they had south park and other franchises. But boy, did he put that network on the map. And then he got colbert. Colbert was on the show, but he turned him into a star and built another show. So now they had an hour, four nights a week that was really strong and the demos got strong young audiences. So thats so valuable. Basically, he was the signature start of that network. Hes done a great job of that executive half hour, hes the one that said it should be larry. Hes doing a fantastic job of building just beyond the daily show. It takes the right amount of ego and the right amount of adulthood and charity to be willing to be a launching pad for everybody elses great careers, right . To see colbert not only be successful on the colbert report but to make the leap hes making to cbs, to spin off with larry, to spin off with jon. To have launched so many other people into doing similar but its unique work speaks well to him just in terms of his eye and his maturity, his willingness to be a good guy. The maturity to have the patience to let something develop so that you can really make pin point decisions. Know that great jokes should be thrown out, because they dont fit in the tone of the show. Even waiting until stephen was ready and grown. Stephen probably could have launched his show even six months before he did, but they waited until the exact right time for a seamless flow. Patience in this business is just so incredibly patience and can make all the difference in the world. I think that is just one of the greatest things that hes done. I want to take a look at one of his more serious moments. There have certainly be many and usually under difficult circumstances. But i want to see something more recent this year, what he said after the eric garner decision. I i i dont know. I honestly dont know what to say. If comedy is tragedy plus time, i need more [ bleep ] time. But i would really settle for less [ bleep ] tragedy to be honest. I think what is so utterly depressing is that none of the ambiguities that existed in the 30s exist in the Staten Island case. And yet the outcome is exactly the same. No crime, no trial, all harm, no foul. Thats what i love about that. I think that in his heart he felt like i dont know what to say. Then, in fact, he did find what to say. Right. But he didnt try to apply any humor or satire. Thats why it stood out. It was a genuine moment that was absent the jon stewart, you know, dig that he normally gives. Another thing i was thinking watching that, even the segment before that we bumped in on was the very mature view that jon stewart had early on the show had to make things very oriented towards social media. These segments, you dont have to stay up until 11 00 to watch the show. You could get up the next morning, everybody is posting it on facebook or talking about it on twitter. So it was on and on and on, and for a tv producer, you want everybody to watch the show when it takes place, but for this material, it lives on and on and he was doing that pretty much before anybody else was. Well take a quick break and come back with more. Im out of the office right now, but will get back to you just as soon as i possibly can. Your call is important to me. Join Princess Cruises for exclusive discovery at sea experiences. Enjoy cruises from 499 during our 50th anniversary sale. Call your travel consultant or 1800princess. Princess cruises. Come back new. Kid hey dad, who was that man . 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Have you been able to learn any of the specifics . It is a great story. Its the type of story the reporter waits his entire career to not be able to report on. Excuse me, ive been invited to a grouse hunting party. Its just a few dozen men, some stable boys, all of us in kilts naturally. [ laughter ] drinking a few yards of ale. Heres the fun part, jon, whoever shoots the [ laughter ] whoever shoots [ laughter ] whoever shoots the fewest grouse has to go through the spanking machine. [ laughter ] i have to tell you, that story, or what i heard of it, sounds pretty gay. Not gay, jon. Aristocratic. Its a different culture than ours. What i love about it, theres Stephen Colbert, who then proves himself years later to be the most person in character player that you could have who never cracks about anything and he cant hold it together. And when he cant hold it together, he just lets him go. Like im not going to rescue you, you go. Thats one of those clips where, you know what . The underappreciated factor here is the Live Audience. No matter how funny anybody else is in news, nobody else has a Live Audience like this. And it matters so much, because they become this basically fourth wall, so you know what you think is funny is funny. It gives you permission to laugh and it gives them away to play so many more of their talents. Its so effective. Kevin, theres a day which that Live Audience, theyre kind of like your cowriters. You write it and deliver it to them and they kind of make a declaration how important that line was as you move on. Theyll tell you on the spot. Hey, a little more of this, a little more of that. Theres something too about watching colbert break like that, because theres a guy who hes constantly in character and constantly being that guy and to see him lose it like that. Its weird, because jon is just being jon. But every once in a while, its fun for the audience to see stephen be super honest. That was the fun thing about watching those guys. Beth, the thing that jon stewart kept doing time and time again, in our politics was just finding that thing, in a candidate, that maybe we were on the verge of noticing but hadnt quite noticed yet. And then that became the comedy hook that everybody was using. That relates to what i was saying before, somewhat everybody would send around was like, jon stewart perfectly scoured fill in the blank, barack obama, john boehner, michele bachmann. He always thought of it first. Everybody shared it and said this is what i was thinking. Case in point, Lindsey Graham attempting to run for president this year. One of the main reasons he cant seriously run for president is because everybody on the age of 40 only knows the way jon stewart talks about Lindsey Graham. Once youre gerald ford who falls down the steps, whether or not you did fall down, once that character is more powerful than your persona, forget it. Liz, when shows become a giant hit like this and come to this historic moment in the show, its interesting to look back and at all the giant mistakes that could have been made, including just the question of a Live Audience. Was there ever any doubt . That might be tricky. Let me tell you that we launched without a Live Audience. Oh, my goodness. And that lasted about a minute and a half. It lasted for, i think, three shows. Liz, were you standing off stage trying to laugh very loud so the mikes would pick you up . You know, i could stand here and laugh really loud and the mikes could pick me up. But it was such death right away, that we scrambled in an audience and it made a gigantic difference. But back to your point about those guys picking out that moment or that piece. Im going to let you off the hook slightly on that, because their job is to find that and your job is to find the news. Thats where the differentiation part is, they have all day to look for the foible and explore it for a story. And they do it brilliantly. You know, its the luxury of being aible to look through a lens that is part news and part sort of looking, scratching the underbelly and seeing who is behind the curtain. Were going to take a break. When we come back, well come back with a little piece thats going to show you how important new jersey was to this show. Youre going to love this. The real question that needs to be asked is what is it that we can do that is impactful . What the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. It used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. Whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, thats what id like to do. Theres confidence. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. 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A woman with two small kids, cant think about anything else right now. Theres another car swinging, i dont know even you can even see it. [ laughter ] a lady is in the nra and loves oprah. Theres another car, investment banker, gay, also likes oprah. Another car is a latino carpenter. Another car, a fundamentalist vacuum salesman. Mormon jay zee fan. But this is us every one of the cars that you see is filled with individuals of strong beliefs and principles they hold dear. Often principles and beliefs in opposition to their fellow travelers. And yet these millions of cars must find a way to squeeze one by one into a milelong, 30foot wide tunnel carved underneath a mighty river. Carved by people, by the way, who i am sure had their differences. And they do it concession by concession. You go, then ill go, you go, then ill go. You go, then ill go. Oh, my god, is that an nra sticker on your car . Is that an obama sticker on your car . Thats okay, you go, then ill go. Hunter, the you go, then ill go, it was new jersey poetry. I was watching it on cspan that day and the monitors were up and the video of the cars, you could watch the cars making that decision every time he said, you go, then ill go. It was really beautiful. And kevin, youll like this, i spoke to a writer friend i know. He said that was all jon. Jon wrote that. I had so many friends that were at that rally. For my generation, theyve really had an emotional connection to jon stewart. One thing we havent touched on yet today, we saw this new media revolution in the middle part of the last decade. This socalled fake news where he brought in his opinion, he brought in his personal perspective and some humor, he was doing that before the blogosphere and the other news media followed suit. And were joined by harry enton. You didnt have to live through the decades of tv that didnt have this jon stewart that i lived through, which is being played against constantly in these shows, whether its conscious or subconscious, but your reaction to the big news . All my friends watch jon stewart. The median age for most Television Programs are near 60 . Jon stewart is one of the few shows on television where the plurality identify as liberal. So this is much bigger news than say Brian Williams being suspended. This is huge news for my generation. Do you have conservative friends . I have republican friends who tell me about jon stewart bits all the time. Lets face it, he does have an audience that skews more liberal. One would imagine hes fairly liberal. But the fact that he goes after the media, hell make fun of the president when he deserves it. He was the roommate of anthony weiner. He was right there in the mist of it. He would say look, im friends with the guy but he creeped me out. He calls truth and thats what people like. David axelrod was apparently the guest on the show tonight, because he does so many book interviews. He tweeted just had the honor of being jon stewarts guest where he announced hes leaving. Emotional night. I can imagine the emotional night it is over there. He said, im going to leave later this year, several months later. How will that change the working atmosphere there knowing this will end . I would imagine, its going to slowly hit the reality will slowly hit the writers and production staff, but i think its going to make people, you know, these guys are going to want to sort of crank out the best shows they can. I would imagine it would galvanize and energize the staff and make them hey, better, funnier, lets just keep doing what were doing. When its going, its just going to be weird. If im a writer, i want to write the best stuff ive ever written for him. Within seconds of this being announced, there was a report by a reporter on the hill saying, everyone on the floor of the house is talking about jon stewart leaving. Well get some congressional reaction and come back. Quick break. Well be right back. Here is jon stewarts first try alka seltzer reliefchews. They work just as fast and taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. Mmm. Amazing. Yeah, i get that a lot. Alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. Enjoy the relief. Theres confidence. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. Now you can get the works, a multipoint inspection with a Synthetic Blend Oil change tire rotation, Brake Inspection and more. 29. 95 or less. Music melodic, calm music. Dont miss the Princess Cruises 50th anniversary sale. Our biggest sale ever. Save up to 500 per person. Everywhere we sail. All around the world. Call your travel consultant, or 1800princess. Princess cruises. Come back new. Daughter do you and mom still have money with that broker . Dad yeah, 20 something years now. Thinking about what you want to do with your money . Daughter looking at options. What do you guys pay in fees . Dad i dont know exactly. Daughter if youre not happy do they have to pay you back . Dad it doesnt really work that way. Daughter you sure . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at Charles Schwab. Here is jon stewarts first show after 9 11. Good evening, and welcome to the daily show. We are back. This is our first show since the tragedy in new york city, and i am there is no other way to start this show than to ask you at home the question we asked the audience here tonight and that weve asked everybody that we know here in new york since september 11, and that is, are you okay . And we pray that you are, and that your family is. They said to get back to work, and there were no Jobs Available for a man in the fetal position under his desk crying. [ laughter ] which i gladly would have taken. Weve had an unenduring pain here and unendurable pain, and i just i wanted to tell you why i grieve. But why i dont despair. Kevin, im not sure who could have handled that, somebody who grew up in the region, living and working in new york at the time. Yeah, he was sort of a guy we were all looking to do help bring us back from that. What is he going to say and do . Its also the mark of a great comedian to be as real as that and still, you know, and still keep his audience with him, still not weird out the audience, like is this going to be awkward . Like were okay with him to be honest and open himself up like that. Liz, the show you created is now in what, its 17th, 18th career, the daily show. Once they get that host in place, maybe another 17 years. [ laughter ] yeah, and i think that i just feel really happy that i could just know jon could take it to where it is. And john oliver showed that you can put a new voice on a new host and with talented writers, you know, audiences, theyre always a little uncomfortable and have to get used to a new person. But the trajectory that the show took with jon at the helm has opened it up to be a vehicle that the right person can just carry on and create its own new chapter. Im excited about it. Hunter, this may be one of those moments where we thought how much we needed jon stewart and then he said hes leaving and its worse than we thought. I dont think weve seen the last of him, but the big question, colbert set the bar with his finale. What is jon stewart going to do . Thats the perfect note to end on. Thank you very much to the whole gang. Thats it. Kayla is gone. Lets play hardball. Good evening im Chris Matthews in washington. Let me start tonight with confirmation that the american hostage, Kayla Mueller is dead. She was taken by isis in all of 2013 while work fog an Aid Organization in syria. She was there trying to help the suffering people. Today her family said she received evidence that she is dead. According to nbc, it was the evidence, a photograph which will emailed for her family over the weekend. We do not know how she was killed or when. Isis said it was a Jordanian Air strike that killed her, but

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