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While vladamir putin continues to deny russian involvement in that situation, ukraine says that russia has launched new military incursions across ukraines eastern border, sending troops, tanks, and artillery into ukraine to help the prorussian separatists. The Ukrainian Government released video showing men who were captured in ukraine in russian uniforms. These incursions indicate a russian directed counteroffensive is likely under way in donetsk and luhansk. Clearly, that is of deep concern to us. Were also concerned by the russian governments unwillingness to tell the truth, even as the soldiers are found 30 miles inside ukraine. According to the new york times, Russian Troops are essentially opening up a new third front in that war by attacking Ukrainian Forces outside a coastal town in the southeast adding to the fighting that continues into other eastern cities. Ukrainian soldiers in that coastal town said they were cannon fodder for the forces coming from russia. As they spoke, tank shells came from the east and exploded nearby. The Prime Minister from ukraine tweeted, this is a russian directed counteroffensive under way. Joining me now is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and former ambassador to ukraine under george w. Bush and president obama. Ambassador taylor, when do we call an invasion an invasion . What does it take to change the terminology from incursion to invasion . I think we would call it an invasion once we see Russian Forces coming across the border, which we have seen. This is clearly an invasion. What are the implications for the state department at this point . They seem to not want to quite go that far rhetorically. The implications are that we treat this as an invasion, which means several things. We expand sanctions that we put on. We should cover the entire Banking System in russia. But sanctions are not enough. We need to provide military security, defensive weapons to the Ukrainian Military so that they can defend themselves against this invasion. And third, we need to supply the financing to the Ukrainian Government so that they can continue to move forward on their reforms. Lets listen to what the state Department Spokesman said today about this question of whether this really is an invasion. These incursions indicate a russian directed counteroffensive is likely under way in donetsk and luhansk. Why not say its under way rather than likely . I decided to say likely. What does that likely provide for her . It has created a sort of method of acting, which is to say stealth invasion, stealth warfare against other countries, which is unprecedented. That longterm conflicts done by first irregular forces and now regular forces of the russian army, pretending they are independent insurgent fighters. This mechanism has been used throughout this conflict and created a kind of convenient wiggle room for the west not to confront fully what mr. Putin is doing. If we accept it as an invasion, it is an invasion. That calls for upping our ante. In the last couple of months, ukraine has made tremendous gains against these russian proxy fighters in eastern ukraine. They took over about 70 of their territory. They liberated areas with about 1. 5 Million People that had been formerly under rebel held territory. And now they are, you know, the russians are trying to stabilize the gains that the rebels made in the past. There is a negotiating process that is beginning and mr. Putin is in a weak position and hes trying to fight his way back into a stronger position to extract more concessions, both from the west and from ukraine. Adrian, what would your version of upping the ante be . Do you agree that you go to the entire Banking System and what else . Absolutely. Ukraine needs lethal weapons, it needs electronic technology. These are responsible, trained military forces. They are generally behaving within the rules of the laws of war. I think we could have a conference that the Ukrainian Forces should be able to be trained and have technologies that including drones and other technologies better equipment for communication, better gear. This war thus far has been fought with soviet era equipment. Now its clear that putin is sending in regular Russian Forces taking off their insignias and putting them into the fray to kind of change the balance of power and to push the ukrainians back. I think the ukrainians need this not just to push back the russians but as a longterm deterrent. Ukraine has to deal with a very erratic neighbor with a lot of power and it needles the wests help to withstand that security threat. Ambassador taylor, you have enough experience dealing with the president ial menu on this kind of a situation. What do you imagine is being presented to president obama as his options and surely theres more than one school of thought in the white house and the Adviser Group about this. There are several schools of thought. There are those in various parts of the government who are concerned about provoking the russians. They are concerned that if we provide lethal equipment and weapons that this will provide the russians. My sense is that there is another group in the government two recognized that theyve been provoked, that they are already moving across and they are supplying the equipment, the weapons, the russians are supplying the russians, the equipment, the leadership, the financing to these separatists. So the two sides are arguing back and forth. My own view is that these weapons are necessary now. And adrian, theres a report bloomberg is reporting that the fbi is investigating whether russia is tied to a possible hacking of jpmorgan possibly in retaliation for the sanctions already there. What is your sense of the capacity both overt and covert for russia to respond . I think russia has a range of capacities. If this situation is not regulated, i wouldnt call it a new cold war, but an ongoing tension between the democratic world or the euroatlantic world and russia over a long period, we can look at some of these i would say exotic and alternative methods of combat. Mr. Putin is not mounting a regular war against ukraine, and he will not mount a regular response to the typical array of pressure points that the west is going to put against them. It will probably be some asymmetrical warfare. Nato is saying russia has amassed up to 20,000 troops near the ukrainerussia border. Ambassador taylor, what would it take to get a stronger response out of europe . It took the shooting down of a civilian airliner to get a strong response out of europe on sanctions. I believe that this overt invasion we now have an invasion. This should be what the europeans need in order to respond. Nato will meet next month and have some decisions to make about how to support ukraine. There are several ideas on the table that the europeans will be able to step up to and support. Thank you both very much for joining us tonight. Good to be here. Coming up, in the latest turn in the endless, horrible consequences of president bushs mistaken war in iraq, president obama is now faced with the problem of the terror of the Islamic State. One of the many things no one who supported the iraq warsaw coming. Howard dean will join me. And Mitch Mcconnell is in the political fight of his life. If Mitch Mcconnell loses his reelection, we might be looking back at today as the turning point in that campaign. Do you . I have bayer aspirin. 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The mother of the american journalist released this Statement Today asking the Islamic State for mercy for her son. As a mother, i ask your justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. I ask you to use your authority to spare his life. After authorizing surveillance flights over syria, president obama is reportedly now weighing other possible options. A pentagon spokesman said this today. I think weve all recognized that theres no way to address isil without doing it regionally. That means without considering the threat they pose, the training, the resourcing they have there. So were looking at this from a regional perspective. It doesnt necessarily mean the military option is the only or best option. Its certainly an option available to the president. But we recognize that this regional threat has to be with this. Republican strategist bill crystal said this earlier on a radio show. Of course, bill crystal did not anticipate any of the side effects of taking over iraq. One of those side effects is the Islamic State itself. Joining me now is howard dean, former head of the Democratic National convention, and david rhodes, author of the book a rope and a prayer about his experience as a prisoner held by the taliban for seven months. Howard dean, there we have bill crystal, one of the real supporters of the iraq war, confident about what to do now. Yeah, its not so easy. As you pointed out, actually i said when i was running for president 11 years ago that this is a likely outcome, that iraq would be split in three parts and one governed by al qaeda. This is not a regional problem, its an international problem. We will be a target of them. If that means going into syria, thats fine. I dont think its up to me or anyone else to decide what our military strategy would be. But if the president said we needed to bomb the Islamic State in syria, a, it would make sense. Because how can you take half a war to somebody . And b, i would support the president. David, weve this feels very familiar. We had al qaeda and we had to stamp them out and we went after that, or we seemed to go after that, then took the off of that to go to iraq. Then we have this successor of sorts to al qaeda. Now we have to stamp them out and we never really stamped out whats driving this in the first place. Its true and very frustrating to americans after iraq and afghanistan. But we they are a threat, the Islamic State. We need some new thinking and smart thinking about whats going on. Whats frustrating is our idealogical debate with bill crystal saying well bomb them. Thats not going to work. I understand on the left there is a deep aversion to any kind of military force. I think whats needed and what the administration need is also a Clear Strategy here, and a key element are these local, you know, the countries in the region. Will turkey, saudi arabia, qatar, the uae and jordan work with us and provide Ground Forces . We know an american Ground Invasion could make things worse, but i dont think we can ignore this threat either. Howard dean, what evidence is there that the United States has the power to extinguish somehow the passions that are driving the Islamic State . Well, we dont. I think thats a very good point that david made. We have no business with boots on the ground in the middle east. That does make things worse, and thats one of the causes of what were seeing now. What we can do to extinguish groups like isis on the battlefield is support groups like peshmerga, the kurdish forces. Depending on the motivation of the saudis, im not so trust worthy of the saudis. But on the ground, local people need to fight their own battles. We can support them, we cant take the battle on for them. What can we do otherwise . Weve got to support moderates. Its great that we got rid of malaki, because he was clearly inflaming the sectarian differences. We need to bring the sunnis that we can work with and have worked with in the past back into the fold. I think iraq as a country is lost but that doesnt mean we cant rely on moderate sunnis to come up with their own nation state. David, i want to get your reaction to the mother releasing that video today, no one knows better of what shes going through than you. What was your reaction to that mothers plea . It was heartbreaking and the person who knows better is my mother and my wife who went through this horrible ordeal. My wife made messages just like that one. I applaud the family for putting that out. Its a desperate plea, trying to get mercy for their son. Im not sure its going to work and coming back to allies, qatar, which won the release of the other american who returned home today, theo curtis, you know, has funded some of these jihadist groups. It appears thats how qatar was able to get curtis released, either a close relationship or a ransom. We have to ask these arab nations to make a decision, theyre either going to fight these terrorists or not. But for the sake of these families and so many local people that have died in syria and iraq, there needs to be a serious approach to this problem. We need to ask countries to step up. If they wont, we have to leave. And i just feel horribly for the family. David and howard, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. Thanks, lawrence. Coming up, we have a new frontrunner for the next republican president ial nomination. And in the rewrite tonight, Mitch Mcconnell is in the race of his life. The political race of his life. We have news developing in that campaign tonight. Machines will be sprayed to be made. And making something stronger. Will mean making it lighter. One day, factories will work with the cloud. One day. Is today. 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Apparently some of those angry drivers who honk their horns and shake their fists and do worse to other drivers are actually on their way to the airport, where they bring their rage with them onto airplanes. The latest rage issue for Airline Travelers is how far you recline your seat. Heres our nbc correspondent. Reporter for two passengers, a spat over five inches of extra space was all it took to force an Emergency Landing in chicago. And it all began with a 22 gadget called the knee defender. It keeps people from reclining. Reporter especially designed for coach class flyers. A man seated in economy plus was using the device, to stop the woman in front of him from reclining her seat. The woman put her seat back and he shoved her forward and she threw her drink on him. Reporter while the faa doesnt prohibit these devices, most airlines, including united, have banned them. Joining me now is sarah nelson, a Flight Attendant of United Airlines, and josh barrow, correspondent for the new york times. Sarah nelson, ive been in united economy. Theres a lot of extra room in those seats. Ive flown across the country in those seats. It seems outrageous that that guy would be fighting for any incursion into his large space there. Whats also outrageous is that Flight Attendants have to deal with conflicts like this every single day on our aircraft. Flights are fuller than theyve ever been before, and passengers are fighting for space and theyre fighting for their own personal space on board the aircraft. We have to deescalate every single day. Josh, its tough enough up there for people like sarah nelson trying to keep order in an aircraft. Now you have this company, which is selling and marketing disorder in aircraft. Yeah. Theyve been saying that all the interest that this news story has created has caused a spike in sales. But these fights could be avoided if we under stood that one of the things that you pay for when you pay your airfare is the right to decline your seats. Thats why theres a button allowing you to do that. I understand some people dont like it, but thats something you can maybe politely discuss with the passenger in front of you. If you care that much, offer the passenger in front of you some money to not recline his seats, but youre not entitled to modify the seat of that person to prevent them from using it as intended. The Chicago Police the plane made this Emergency Landing in chicago. Tsa officers met the flight. There were no charges brought because it was just a Customer Service issue. Sarah nelson, it was a Customer Service issue. All the customers on that flight had their flight and their day and probably more than their day ruined by this guy who brought this banned device, banned by United Airlines, onto that plane. Yeah, lawrence, ive been on thousands of flights and ive said thousands of times, sit back, relax and enjoy your flight to chicago, because someone is not going to comply with the instructions and someone else is going to throw water in his face and were going to inconvenience 200 passengers and land because theres a serious threat on board. So this is serious stuff. Passengers have to comply with instructions from the Flight Attendants. And ive talked to several flight crew who have encountered these knee defenders. And in every case they said theyve been able to get the passenger to remove them. So josh as a point, but we also have the point that passengers are fighting for space on board the aircraft every single day. This is just conflict thats being created. We have fewer staff than ever with the Flight Attendants trying to deal with these situations. And a couple of airlines have solved the problem by preventing their seats from reclining at all. Josh, thats what were being driven to here with this kind of madness in the air. Not only that, but the seats that dont recline are only 28 inches apart opposed to 33 on other airlines. So i believe spirit, they like to claim their seats are prereclined. But you also have increasing options. United, american and delta all have these options where you can pay between 20 and 60 for additional leg room. So if you deeply care about whether your knees are going to be impacted by the seat in front of you, you have that option. But some people take that option as still not enough and you can still get these conflicts. Theres been a lot of laughing about this story, but if you were on that plane or a plane like it with your baby, who you were trying to get home and one of these wise guys with the knee defender brought your plane down, as happened here, there would be nothing to laugh at. Sarah nelson, i wish your employer, i wish United Airlines would sue this passenger for the cost, all of the cost, fuel cost, everything, that was involved in having to land that plane in chicago and then get all of those passengers to denver. I wish every one of the passengers on that plane would sue that guy. They all have a claim. Thats right. And it should be a real concern for anyone who is flying, because if you eastern not flying with Flight Attendant instructions, you could find yourself with a fast track down to an airport you didnt intend to land at and youre not going to go on and you may be facing federal fines up to 25,000. This is very serious. Passengers should take it seriously. Thank goodness, lawrence, a year ago we were talking about keeping knives off the airplanes. So lets be happy the woman had water and not a knife. We need congress to pass keep knives out of our skies act so we dont have to have that battle again. But we need to take this seriously and people need to understand there could be serious consequence it is they engage in this activity and dont comply with instructions. Josh, theres an element of bullying in this. Im going to sit here, because im over six feet tall, and this guy is claiming hes over six feet tall, he has to defend his knees. Im over six feet tall. Yeah, i wish these reclined seats werent there, but theres nothing i can do about it. The contract of the ticket says i obey the rules. He also has 36 inches of seat. So no, i think it is an element of bullying, but then this woman turned around and threw water on him. So i think theres plenty of blame to go around here. But i think again this fighting arises out of the ambiguity that both people feel like they have the property right for the seat position. People that want to recline feel like theyre entitled to recline. People dont have to like the position of the seat but if they understand that one or the other of these is the norm, we wouldnt have these disputes. There is some shared blame here, but i am adjudging most of it to go to the guy with the knee defender. I would get those people off the planes. This thing is a horrible thing, ruining air travel. Josh and sarah, thank you both very much for joining me tonight. Thank you. Coming up, in the rewrite, Mitch Mcconnell is in big trouble in kentucky, and Alison Grimes has him in a race that he never dreamed he would be in at this stage. Then the next republican president ial nomination, theres a new front runner, and hes already got the bumper stickers ready. [meow mix jingle slowly and quietly plucks. ] right on cue. [cat meows] [laughs] meow, meow, meow, meow. Meow, meow, meow, meow. Its more than just a meal, its meow mix mealtime. 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Com we have a new frontrunner for the republican president ial nomination. 35 of Iowa Republicans favor mitt romney for the next republican president ial nomination, according to a new Suffolk University usa today poll. He has a 26point lead over the second place finisher in that poll, mike huckabee, who is the choice of 8. 8 of Iowa Republicans, followed by Chris Christie at 6. 5 . Rick santorum at 5. 9 , leaving rand paul and ted cruz tied at 5. 2 . The much touted jeb bush and recently indicted rick perry are tied at 4. 7 . And marco rubio is finishing out the field, commanding 2. 3 of current republican voter support in iowa. So the big question for mitt romney tonight is, is he ready for more of this . I have to ask you, are you calling mitt romney a liar . Yes. Mitt romney, can he beat obama . No, he cant. He is the worst republican in the country. Im looking forward to finding your facts on that. Rick, again rick im speaking, im speaking the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds and you get 30 seconds to respond. Anderson you say you would you please work . Are you just going to keep talking . Joining me now is steve schmidt, who is currently advising rick perrys Legal Defense team. So Iowa Republicans seem to be nostalgic for that kind of debate scene we saw from four years ago. I think that governor romney said hes not going to be a candidate. But theres a lot of affection for him inside the republican party. Theres a documentary that followed him for the last several years of his campaigns. It showed the man as a man of great character, a lot of personal qualities that people admired. I think a lot of republicans look at the chaos and say the country would have been in a much better position had mitt romney been president. These polls are the function of name i. D. If you tested al gore in the democratic matchup against hillary clinton, he would have astoundingly high numbers, as well. But what i really think it points out is how wide open the republican field is for 2016. Steve, yesterday on a radio show mitt romney said hes not running, the standard line, then he said, you know, circumstances can change. So he is popping that door open, and this poll i mean, i dont see how he can look at that poll and not think about it. Well, look, im sure he will think about it. But he also said in that interview that circumstances could change if all of the other candidates coalesced around him and he was acclimated to the nomination is how i read it. But i dont think thats likely to happen. Most of the people who are considering runs for president obviously are very ambitious, and will view this election as their time, their chance to run and very much, you know, through the prizm that mitt romney had his time and his chance. And so governor romney acknowledged that i think in the interview. So ill be surprised if he runs, but early on in the race, not surprised to see him leading the field. Steve, as we know these early polls tend to have a very big name recognition factor in it. Its often the primary thing people are responding to, which could explain a lot of this, but it cannot explain why jeb bush ends up in this poll, pretty far back tied with rick perry at 4. 7 and jeb bush is the guy that a lot of republicans talked about as the one that can come in to a field where there is no obvious frontrunner and jeb bush can come in and really grab this thing. But hes polling pretty badly right now for someone who has very high name recognition and that capacity people believed to jump into this race and grab it. I think a lot of republicans have looked at governor bush as the analog to hillary clinton, that if he got in the race he would command the same levels of support. He would bring to bear the same level of financial organization, capacity to raise the money necessary. And i dont think that survey bears that position, that position of strength out. So certainly i think if governor bush gets in the race, hell be a formidable candidate. But again, this is going to be a race just like in 2008, for a long time i think its going to bounce around. Youre going to see a lot of people up top falling away. Its a wide open race, and i think theres some candidates that arent even polled there that could likely make an impact going forward. Lets remember its an iowa poll and iowa is not all that good about producing results that then lead to the nomination. No, it typically hasnt. But certainly it will help shape the debate and help winnow the people that make it through. President ial campaigns just need one financial benefactor and they can go all the way to the nomination. So you have candidates ultimately who have no chance of winning who can have an outside impact on who the nominee is. So going to be another wild, wide open race for the presidency on the republican side. Well, lets see how many bumper stickers mitt romney has left over. Steve schmitt, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Chris hayes is up next. Hardball starts right now. Turn coats, lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in washington. Let me start tonight with those dozens of americans turn thing coat and joining islamic murderers in syria and iraq. Next we get to the republican strategy for taking up the u. S. Senate. Turn every democratic opponent into barack obama. Then we get to the stinking hamburger plan to skip u. S. Tax laws by heading off it canada. Finally the death that comes of handing a loaded automatic weapon to a 9yearold and deafening silence from the National Rifle association. You know, the ones who say guns dont kill people, people do