Platform to repeal. Obama care is the law of the land. Two steps forward. Listen, the am scan people dont want the president S Health Care bill. 39 steps back. Speaker boehner hunkered down. Threat of the government shutdown. Shutting down the government. What kind of idea is that. But the debt ceiling. The debt limit we will introduce a plan. A cash flow problem. The president says i am not going to negotiate. I will not negotiate. Im sorry it just doesnt work that way. The Tea Party Republicans have taken it to a whole new level. The American People dont want the president S Health Care bill. Elections have consequences. Even if youve didnt vote for me, i bet you will sign up for the Health Care Plan five days before enrollment begins for obama care, president obama took a stand against republicans threatening a government shutdown. The president went to maryland and began by explaining why he wont consider defunding obama care. In fact, for the past few years since i signed the Affordable Care act, a lot of you have been enjoying new benefits you didnt have before even if you didnt know they were coming from obama care. Because the Affordable Care act, more than 100 million americans have gotten free preventative care. Because of the Affordable Care act, 3 million young adults under age 26 have gained coverage by staying on their parents plan. [ applause ] because of the Affordable Care act, millions of seniors on medicare have saved hundreds of dollars on their prescription medicine. 8. 5 million families actually got an average of 100 back from their Insurance Companies. Insurance companies can no longer put lifetime limits on the care your family need or discriminate on preexisting conditions. Starting january 1 they wont be able to charge women more for their insurance just because theyre women. [ applause ] those are the benefits of obama care. The law that republicans want to repeal. I signed it into law. The Supreme Court ruled it constitutional. Republicans in congress have now voted more than 40 times to undermine or repeal it. Their candidate for president ran on a platform to repeal it. And at every step they have been unsuccessful. [ applause ] president obama went after republicans for their scare tactics, trying to scare people about obama care. There are so many people out there working to make it fail. One of the biggest newspapers in the country recently published an editorial i thought was pretty good. They said the republicans in congress are poisoning obama care then trying to claim its sick. You had a state representative some where say that it is destructive to personal and individual liberty as the fugitive slave act. Think about that . I like this one joining me now is congresswoman renee elmers, republican from north carolina, chair of the republican womens policy committee, and its great to have you back on the show, congresswoman. Are you terrified of running at the state level in kentucky theyre calling it kinyct, those signing up or signing up for the obama care, Affordable Care act, and not realizing thats what theyre getting. The big risk for the states implementing the exchanges they tailor them to the state and ahha, look how good my state is doing or how will my state is doing at providing health care coverage. No, thats obama care. Yeah, jared. Maybe they should have written into the law some name for the exchanges. Every state has a different name for their exchange. The word obama or federal government is not going to be in the name of any one of the exchanges. Right. We may be looking at a situation, ten years from now where an aged tea partier says keep the government out of my obama care. In other word, what you have today with medicare is probably a good analogy. Back when medicare first was passed, there was a tremendous anxiety. I think Ronald Reagan called it a great socialist experiment, a popular program. And very efficient one. You have conservative republicans protecting medicare saying keep the government out of my medicare not making the connections it is a government program. Part of this, by the way, a serious part of this is just the information that need to really get out there. It is already way behind in terms of the, really, flooding the public with, with Important Information about this. Lets listen to what the president said today about some very, very rich republican billionaires trying to convince people not to participate in this new health care program. Some of the tea partys biggest donors, wealthiest men in America Funding a cynical ad campaign trying to convince young people not to buy health care at all. Think about it these are billionaires, several times over, you know they have got good health care. But they are actually spending money on television trying to convince young people that if you have got the choice between getting Affordable Health care or going without health care, you should choose not having any health care. Now, do you think if you get sec or you get hurt, and you, and you get stuck with a massive bill, the same folks theyre going to help you out . Joy, it really is an astonishing phenomenon to watch the republican billionaires advocating for people something they would never advocate for their own children . You are right. Herein lies the great irony about the conservative objection to obama care. What are they actually asking people to do . Theyre actually asking you to essentially kill yourself. Because if you get sick and you dont have insurance, you cant be treated you cannot survive a catastrophic illness or theyre asking you, bankrupt yourself. Because if you cant afford to pay your bill at the emergency room theyre going to bill you anyway, you will be pursued by Credit Collections people, you could lose your home. People are going bankrupt or dying earlier because theyre not getting preventative care. Theyre catching Breast Cancers at stage 3 and stage 4. Theyre presenting this is as liberty. This is not freedom. It is crazy. If the government is going to super subsidize you to buy what you and i have, because we have a job, an insurance card, go to the doctor, why would you say no . What is ate but liberty that it is a good thing not to have the card. Theyre trying to fudge that argument that some how you are abridging liberty by giving people the opportunity to have insurance. It is insane. Now, a lot of people are saying republicans are afraid obama care will be successful and that will be the problem. Ted cruz actually admitted exactly that to Rush Limbaugh. Lets listen to the way he put it to Rush Limbaugh about the public getting addicted to the sugar of obama care. As you know, the exchanges are going to be up and running shortly. On january 1, subsidies are scheduled to kick in. President obamas strategy is simple. He wants to get as Many Americans as possible addicted to the subsidies, addicted to the sugar. Because he knows that in modern times, no major entitlement has ever been implemented and then unwound. He gets as many people signed up to those exchanges as possible. It makes it all that much more difficult to take it away from them. That is exactly right. So, jared, there it is. Theyre afraid it is going to work. Yeah, thats the evil plan right there. Revealed by those two great conspirator theorists, that the, Affordable Care act is supposed to help people without coverage get Health Insurance. Oh, my goodness. And in fact, one of the things particularly, as an economist i have fund to be particularly found to be particularly notable here is one thing the plan does in exchanges it introduces a level of competition. A republican idea, by the way. A level of competition between Insurance Companies that doesnt currently exist in a market that is very skewed such that consumers dont have clear information. So these online exchanges will prevent very clear information forcing insurers to compete. Thus far, we have seen in many exchanges across the nation. Costs coming down. Because of that competition. 10, 20, 50 in new york state. So not only is this going to cover a lot of people when it is up and running. It is going to do for a lesser cost than would be the case. Squeezing inefficiencies out of our system. Jared reid, and tara bernstein, thank you for joining us. Thank you. Why john boehner has one of the most difficult and certainly the most ridiculous job in washington. 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An we agree that john boehner has the second toughest job in washington. I didnt think so. Lets try this. Can we all agree that john boehner has the most ridiculous job in washington . Okay. Now we have got something of an agreement here. He has to pretend to his tea party crazies that he is going to seriously, seriously try to defund obama care when he knows it is not possible. When he fails to do that or actually before he fails to do that as he knows he will, he has to promise to his tea party crazies that he is going to get them everything on their wish list, everything they have ever wanted when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling. On the debt limit we are going to introduce a plan that ties important spending cuts and progrowth reforms to a debt limit increase. Now the president says im not going to negotiate. Well, im sorry it just doesnt work that way. What john boehner is really sorry about, he has to go through this charade of pretending to his tea party crazies that he can get a long list of their favorite idea attached to a debt ceiling increase and therefore, signed into law by president obama. The president who today said this. I will not negotiate on anything when it comes to the full faith and credit of the United States of america. Were not going to submit to this kind of total irresponsibility. Congress need to pay our bills on time. Congress needs to pass a budget on time. Congress need to put an end to governing from crisis to crisis. If republican do not like the law they can go through the regular channels and processes to try to change it. Thats why we have elections. So they, they can go through the normal processes and procedures of a democracy, but you do not threaten the full faith and credit of the United States of america. Joining me now vase va democratic senator mark warner. Sits on the budget and banking committees and the joint Economic Committee. Senator warner, what are your republican friend across the aisle, what do they not understand about the president when he says i will not negotiate . I dont get it. You know, i am a big advocate of bipartisanship. But nobody would responsibly say america ought to default. There has been a Major Industrial nation that defaulted. The most recent nation was argentina. And virtually people lost 60 , 70 of their total value, family value overnight. I just dont understand it. I dont think again, i am astonished we have wasted this week, playing russian roulette with the full credit and faith of america. I would say this, some of the republican folks have got to be willing to step up. Some are willing to step up. The antics against some of the antics. As you said earlier there are folks on the other side right now driving the bus. They dont care if the bus is headed straight to the cliff. Now, ted cruz, the other day did something unusual. He proposed unanimous consent request, members of the senate dont, thats reserved for the majority leader. One was let any just go and vote on this thing. Now ted cruz is delaying the vote on the continuing resolution in the senate. How did that happen . Well, you know i would ask you to urge your viewers to check out some of the republican senators who are calling out some of these senators who have been all about delay. This is, you know getting at least, there was a recognition that if we keep this delay, the ability, especially of the speaker sending Something Back that is not a clean funding of the government, it will mean we are into next weekend, millions of families are going to end up having their economy hurt, have their, financial status hurt. We, we got word that, we are sending 66,000 sailors to work tuesday. Theyre not going to get paid. That is just irresponsible beyond belief. Just because the guys may want to continue the charade for another night. The tempers are flaring on the republican side in the senate in ways i have never seen before. Republican senator bob corker called out mike lee and ted cruz about this delay without using their names. But everyone knew he was talking about. Lets listen to what he had to say. And relative to this vote tonight happening tomorrow instead is that my two colleagues who i respect, have sent out emails around the world and turned this into a show possibly. Therefore they want people around the world to watch, maybe them, and others on the senate floor, and that is taking priority over getting legislation back to the house so they could take action before the countrys government shuts down. Senator, i have never seen a senate vote scheduled on the basis of members having sent out emails to their audiences saying, hey, watch this. On friday. You are starting to see a recognition all of us want to come out of the mainstream, democrat, republican saying enough of these shenanigans. Can you imagine . This economy we know is not producing enough jobs to. Shut down the government, period of time, ripple effect. Two weeks later this lawn dream list of desires coming out of the debt ceiling demand that i hope, i can tell you this senator, hope the president stands firm as well you. Dont negotiate with the, full faith and credit of the United States. So, you know at some point the vast majority of americans hatch got to say enough. I think you are starting to see that amongst democrats and republicans. Senator you are on the joint Economic Committee, kind of a congressional thinktank in its way. The big think about our economy and world economy. I am not sure the joint Economic Committee has even bothered to seriously look at what happens if we dont raise the debt ceiling since it, prior to this era has never been a serious possibility . Well, we had a hearing on it about ten days ago. One of the socalled expert said, it really wouldnt be that bad. And i went on about a sixminute rant. I usually keep my temper. Normally bipartisan guy. I lost it. I said how can anyone responsibly say that you are going to play russian roulette with the american economy, but the world economy. Once that genie comes out of the bottle. You are not going to get your debt rating reupgraded. A lasting effect. I dont think there is a responsible economist i met from left to write that thinks fooling with the full faith and credit of the United States or prioritizing who we are going to pay makes any economic sense. That hearing got my attention. I dont think you lost it. I dont think there was a more responsible voice in the room. 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When jim demint left the senate, going to go to the heritage foundation, leave the senate he would be more effective when he left the senate. And some of us made fun of that saying how ridiculous a notion that he could possibly, a senator could be more effective after leaving the senate going down the street to a thinktank. Josh, dont tell me you are here to tell me that i was wrong about that. I think you were wrong about that. Oh, oh. We all know demint was in the senate, Mitch Mcconnells chief tormentor, leading voice of dissent on the rightwing of the republican caucus. He did manage to get a lot done. I explain in the piece, talking and traveling with demint. He became frustrated. Heritage would be a better platform. It would allow him the money and political resources to start a movement, from outside to force the changes he wasnt able to bring about from inside the senate. I think, josh, might have the workings of an agreement here. Because heres my new position. Jim demint could not have been less effective as a senator and so really any other job he would be more effective than he was as a senator. How does that sound for you . Am i saving anything from my previous position here . Lawrence, it is good lawyering. You are fighting a pivot. I think the piece is interesting. It does speak to the fact that there are folks in the Republican Party who have very extreme and tremendously ambitious and potentially damaging plans. And for them i would say their advocacy in the senate was challenged because they werent doing real legislation on the daytoday. And on obama care or aca, whatever you want to call it. They lost. They lost in the senate. They lost in the Supreme Court. As senator mccain pointed out. You showed footage on your show yesterday. They lost in the reelect. So if thats the kind of change they want. Those things werent going to happen. I would note, audience people know and understand in a lot of ways senators have a lot of power in using filibusters and delaying obamas nominations, shutting down Consumer Protection bureau. If your idea is doing these things and going radical, maybe you need to do radical tours around the country. Lets listen to what tom coburn said today about what the senate has become since jim demint left. You know, i am finishing up nine years in the senate. And nobody has higher conservative rate thank i do. I am no longer a conservative according to standards set by the expectation of the process. I would love to get rid of obama care. But i dont see a path forward to doing that. And until you get, until the president is out of office. Josh, in your piece, you say, demint says if they would all sing from the same hymn book or Something Like that. They all do. I mean, i dont quite get it. Every single one of them says obamacare is bad. Every sentence of it is bad. We must get rid of every sentence of it. I have never seen a Republican Party more completely unified on an issue than they are on that. What else does demint want . You know, demint made exactly that same point to me, lawrence. We all have a lot in common. The distinction he draws isnt one of ideology. He points out that just as you did. Every republican professes to want to repeal obama care. What is at issue is intensity and really sort of the fanaticism. Thats where all the groups draw the line. Demints broader strategy whether you think it is right or wrong. If republicans would draw the sharp distinctions and have big epic clashes like we are right now over the size of government. That would clarify the issue for the American People. He thinks, poll numbers dont back this up. The American People would swing to his side. We would have the republican revolution they all say theyre after. Theyre having big clashes amongst themselves. Lets listen to peter king said on morning joe about a republican senator. You dont hear stuff like this in that old senate where jim demint used to work. Bottom line is he a fraud . Yes, he is. And what i am saying directly is what other people like tom coburn are saying politely. He is pursuing a policy which is not intellectually honest. Selling a false bill of goods to the American People. Using that joe over the sum r to put pressure on solid conservative republicans in their districts if they didnt support defunding they were rhinos not real conservatives, not real republicans. So, there is a Republican House member going on tv saying a republican senator is a fraud. Yeah, thats very significant because ted cruz was lying this week. And its one thing to say, we want to have more intense opposition to obama care. They could try to do that. It is the law of the land. If they said anything to the president. He could veto it. There are rules, precedents here that are going to restrict them from having the progress. Then when you have their members go out and say, basically, i am performing a filibuster which he was not doing. A vote for cloture is vote for obama care. Ted cruz lied repeatedly to his supporters. That tells us a tremendous amount about him as a political figure. Looks to me like no one is running the Republican Party. Josh, arie, thank you both for joining me tonight. Thank you. Coming up in tonights episode of pinheads and White House Correspondents well let you decide if one of the reporters in the front rope of the White House Briefing room is a pinhead or White House Correspondent. Im not going to do the oreilly thing and tell you who the pinheads are. I am going to report and you decide. Meeting took forever. Oh, my parents will be here any minute. Canned soup . No way. Mmm this is delicious katie. Its not bad for canned soup, right . Pfft [ laughs ] you nearly had us there. 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He is the pinhead, or maybe the pinhead sitting in the front row of the White House PressBriefing Room surrounded by some of the real reporters who work there. Ed henry walked into the press Briefing Room yesterday with a plan. Sure he was very proud of his plan. He knew it would thrill his fox news bosses. He was going to trap jay carnie with the brilliant question he had planned. You are talking enrollment, will jay carnie and white house staff enroll in obama care . Pinheads are a proud people. Very, very proud of their ignorance. That question could not possibly be more ignorant. Like asking jay carnie if heave will enroll in the Food Stamp Program since he is a known defender of the Food Stamp Program. Like asking him if he will enroll in medicare. He does not qualify for medicare for reasons ed henry may understand. Because jay carnie is not exactly 65 years old yet. Jay carnie its not one of the people the Food Stamp Program its designed to help. For reasons that ed henry might or might not understand. And obamacare was not designed to deliver health care, Health Insurance, to people like jay carnie for reasons that ed henry apparently does not understand. There is not one person at fox news who didnt think that ed henrys question was just great, great question. Because there is not one person on the fox news pave roll in front of the camera or behind the camera who understands anything about obama care, not one person, knowing that would involve doing just the tiniest amount of home work and the tiniest amount of actual thinking. There are 300 Million People in ed henrys america. And obama care was designed to provide Health Insurance for only about 5 of those people. Included in its design was the provision of medicaid which is not Health Insurance. For about another 5 of the people. Obama care is a Program Designed for people who do not already have employer provided Health Insurance. Just as food stamps is a program for people who do not have enough money to buy food. Most people dont need food stamps. And most people dont need obama care. The best way for jay carnie to actively participate in obama care for him to walk out of the press Briefing Room, go to a tanning salon and pay the 10 obama care tanning salon tax. That helps pay for obama care for people who cannot afford Health Insurance. This is very simple stuff to understand. So we have hey choice to make tonight about ed henry. Is he a pinhead . Or a liar who is just pretending not to know the truth about obama care . Would you enroll . Absolutely. A simple question. Ed, if i did not have employer provided Health Insurance like i am sure you do unless there is something about fox i dont know, then i would absolutely enroll. It would be more affordable because of it. So, pinhead or liar . What do you think . One clue, one clue to look for is that pinheads are never embarrassed when their questions, their unformed questions are exposed as really kind of very uninformed. Jay carnie wasnt finished. There was more to his answer. Ed henry appeared to be, or pretended to be listening, but not taking notes. So were not sure what ed henry might have learned from this. That the whole purpose, again, a fact often either ignored or mischaracterized by critics is that if you have insurance provided by your employer that you like nothing changes for you. But itch you change jobs or if you but if you change jobs or you get laid off and you, and then take a job, start your own business or take a job where you are not given insurance by your employer, you will now have, or once the marketplaces are in effect, options that were never available before at affordable prices and thats the point. Pinheads never apologize. They never formally surrender. There was no apology from ed henry following that question. Heave didnt say, oh, sorry for take up your time with that ridiculous question. I guess thats something i should have known for maybe the last three years or so but i have never bothered to do the most basing home work and learn the most simple facts about obama care just like everyone else at fox news. And maybe ed henry didnt apologize because ed henry knew the truth of everything that jay carnie was saying, but ed henry decided to play dumb for the fox news bosses and for america. And so the time has come for us to decide about ed henry. And unlike bill oreilly i am not going to do it for you. Bill doesnt trust his audience to decide to who are the pinheads. Who are the patriots . Another ridiculous assertion put forth by mr. Dogg who obviously is a pinhead. Once again, old lewis is a pinhead. Pin head no doubt. Obviously the fly is a pinhead. But he its dead. Bill its the sole judge of whove the pinheads are. 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Make a deal with me, kid, and you can have the car and everything that goes along with it. [ thunder crashes, tires squeal ] so, what do you say . Thanks. But i think i got this. [ male announcer ] the allnew cla. Starting at 29,900. Without apology, the nra want no part of any treaty that infringes on the precious right of lawful americans to keep and bear arms. Let there be no confusion any treaty that includes civilian firearms ownership in its scope will be met with nras greatest force of opposition. The treaty that blood drenched lobbyist Wayne Lapierre fears was signed by john kerry, the United Nations arms trade treaty designed to reduce weapons trafficking. Though the treaty has no effect on law, the nra released this statement upon signing the treaty, secretary of state kerry said this this treaty will not diminish any ones freedom. In fact, the treaty recognizes the freedom of both individuals and states to obtain, possess, and use arms for legitimate purposes. Make no mistake, we would never think about supporting a treaty that is inconsistent with the rights of americans, the rights of american citizens to be able to exercise their guaranteed rights under or constitution. Joining me now, mark fulman, Senior Editor at mother jones. Mark the treaty has to get ratified by the United States senate. A tough chore with the nra standing in the way. But this notion that this treaty has any impact on american law in any way, how is the nra creating that fiction . Well, you know, lawrence. This is classic nra. They have been pushing the myth for years. They were pushing it long before this treaty even existed. It was just talk. This is how they operate, they appeal to paranoia to promote their agenda. Which is protecting the gun manufacturing business. So whenever anything comes up that is remotely in the frame of regulating weapons, they have this kind of scorched earth approach that has no basis in reality. As you know, the, treaty is focused on keeping conventional weapons from being trafficked to jen warlord, criminals, you would think the political right would be all for that. But you know the rightwing elements in congress are standing against it. Theyre aligned with the nra on this one. If its because they are behind this agenda which really has the no basis in reality. This is an attempt on their part to preserve trafficking in weapons that can and will at some point be aimed at american soldiers. This tis not, just handguns we are talking about in this treaty. This is attack helicopters, tanks, this is major armament that this treaty also controls. Right which makes their position look all the more absurd. But i think the focus for them is more likely to beep the, the you know military style, semiautomatic rifles, that are allowed in the civilian market in the United States. A big part of the gun business here. So, you know thats close enough to, to that for them to get uncomfortable about it. And this does seem to be, you know, the american bar association, many legal authorities have come out and said, look, this treaty, like most treaties, all most all treaties, has absolutely no effect on american law and cannot change one comma of american law state, local, federal, not in any way. But with that, this, this does seem to demonstrate more clearly than most other examples that the nra is very much concerned with preserving massive sales of firearms for its, the Firearms Companies that support it. I think thats right. And you said, there is nothing in the law that suggests what they say is at all true. There is no basis for believing that this will lead to confiscation of guns or to or to infringement upon americans rights as secretary of state kerry reiterated this week. Its essential codified in the treaty which really is symbolic more than anything. It creates a set of International Guidelines but not enforceable domestically in the United States. And you know, all of that being said. The nra isnt interested in talking about it. They want to hold a 100 line against anything that has to do with regulating firearms. You know one of the ironies here too is, theyre political right loves to beat of on the United Nations. They always portray it as a feckless, ineffective, International Body that the u. S. Should have no part of. Here it is more convenient for them to portray it as a body that has great power. Enough power to trump the United States constitution. When it comes to firearms which is frankly absurd. What are the hurdles for ratification of this treaty in the United States senate . Well my understanding is it need a 2 3 majority to pass. Good luck with this Congress Getting anything passed, let alone that kind of majority. So its probably pretty unlikely. And you, you have had senators stand in the way of this in the past. You know we had a story in mother jones a couple years ago, about senator rand paul who actually fund raised on the issue. He sent out a newsletter, constituents, asking for money. And he pushed this myth that this treaty would lead to mass confiscation of americans guns. You know, facts be damned. There are members of congress who support the nra agenda on this in lock step. It is unlikely it can get past them let alone get that kind of majority. Mark fulman gets tonights last word. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Carnival cruise. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. Let me start tonight with this, the eve of destruction. For reasons of anger, politics, and personality, the United States government stands this week on the eve if not of destruction of outrageous dysfunction. The Government Faces shutdown. Then if this keeps escalating, default. For the first time in americas history, the world will watch as we ourselves implode on ourselves telling every creditor from an american paper boy to chinese billionaire that