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0 plan in a ten-year window. it would have a $1.5 billion surplus in 2012 without this pension requirement. do we get that, folks? this is government intervention by the republicans before they handed the gavel to nancy pelosi. and this is what they stuck the workers with. they want to destroy the post office because they want to privatize everything. today i guess you can say is chapter one, where is the banner, mission accomplished for the republican destruction of the middle class in this country. now, congressman darrell issa, who he just loves the news. he called it common sense-sense reform. of course it's common sense to darrell issa. he has already proposed a bill to put more government regulations on the post office. issa wants to restructure the postal service by capping the growth of the workforce and cutting benefits and services. cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut your way into a profit. issa has no problem leading the charge here, folks, because he's got a lot of money from one of the postal service's main competitors, you got it, ups. fedex has got a hand in this too, by the way. they're also a big contributor to the cause. they gave almost twice as much to republicans than democrats last year in the congress. now, everything is going as planned for house speaker john boehner. >> i know that chairman issa is interested in moving the postal reform bill. i know that they're having bipartisan conversations about how to do this. and i would hope that the congress would act in a timely fashion. >> really? so in other words, mr. boehner, you're willing to step forward and get rid of this line item in the budget that is strangling the post office? here is the reality. there is some bipartisan movement here on the post office. democrats and republicans, they want to stop this service reduction. democratic congressman gerry connolly and republican sam graves, well, they sent a letter to the postmaster general to keep saturday service. hold it, folks, what is he going to do? he can't do it. his hands are strapped. it's the congress. the congress has to move on this. south dakota congresswoman and tea party favorite kristi noem, who has been asked to be on this program -- uh-oh, she fell off the bandwagon -- she is also trying to stop it. she said i understand that serious changes need to take place to make the united states postal service financially viable. but i do not support cutting saturday delivery. coming from a rural state, our rural post office is critical to the way families and businesses operates. you're probably going to get thrown out of the republican party for saying that. but if you have an issue on this, you really need to take it up with your tea party crowd, and you need to take it up with the republican party. because republicans want to destroy middle class voting block and drive this whole thing into privatization. then what are you going to tell your small towns in south dakota? this is an attack on rural america. does anybody care? these, my friends, are middle class jobs. these are the workers who fought to get the progressive agenda up and running in 2012. and hold it right there, president obama, these are your people. these are your minority workers out there, veterans. you know the post office hires more veterans than any other employer in the country? i thought we supported our veterans. it's also unnecessary. this is an unnecessary move. and i don't see the collective outrage that i'd like to see on this, particularly from democrats. this affects workers. this affects rural and elderly americans. this is politically motivated. and it is morally wrong. it is unnecessary. we don't need to do this. now, i want darrell issa to come on this program and tell me that he thinks every business model in this country because of health care and pensions should be funded 75 years in advance in a ten-year window. you won't find one republican in the house to stand up and say that this is the business model that we've got to have for america. they're a bunch of liars and cheats is what they are, and they're screwing the american worker here. this is the destruction of the middle class in this country. this has been going on. see, they passed this law in 2006, and now, boom, here we are. now the post office is cutting services. now it's going to hurt small businesses. and we sit back here as democrats and progressives and say okay. i can't. i just can't. i know what these people are all about. and i'm asking the congress to rescind this law, to take it off the books and start over and give these fighting americans a chance. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, will republicans succeed in killing the post office? text "a" for yes. text b for now. we have a new number for you there, folks. it's 67622. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i am joined by congressman gerald connolly of virginia, and audrey humes joins us tonight. she is a letter carrier and former president of the missouri rural letter carriers. great to have both of you with us tonight. >> thank you, ed. >> congressman, i know you have worked hard on this. will the service reduction actually happen, or can you reverse it? >> i believe we can reverse it, and on two grounds, ed. you want outrage? i'll give you outrage. there is a lot of outraged. the postmaster general does not have the constitution or the statutory authority to make this decision. we'll see he is challenged on constitutional grounds. i've written to him today demanding an explanation for on what grounds he has this authority. remember, the postal service is the only service actually stipulated by the constitution of the united states. this isn't just any service or any line of business. secondly, i want to see the analysis that shows the net savings by this action. the postmaster general and lots of other conventional wisdom thinkers in this town love to cite, well, it will save $2 billion. but what is the cost of lost revenue, lost business that will follow from this decision? >> sure. >> they did their own study last year and they deep-sixed it because it showed inconveniently that a 7% reduction in first class volume leads to a $5 billion loss in revenue. so i'm not sure this will actually save any money, and will further accelerate the decline of the postal service. >> audrey, who is this going to hurt rural america? how is it going to hurt rural customers? >> well, most of our american families and especially our rural communities rely on saturday delivery. many rural communities get their prescription medications, their financial papers and other transactions in the mail. our businesses rely on saturday pickup to get their invoices and their materials out in the mail. our rural community. >> audrey, has washington ignored the calls of the workers here? >> oh, yes indeed. i agree wholeheartedly with representative connolly. our union has again to capitol hill and we have talked to our representatives and told them just how much this is going to affect the american working class people. as he said, we have many veterans. we have families that depend on the postal service, you know. there is also many other items other than just delivering the mail. >> no doubt. >> there is many businesses that rely on the mail also. >> congressman, where is the effort to just erase this law and start over? >> well, i think that the senate passed a bipartisan bill that went in some direction to do just that. you mentioned darrell issa. on our committee, darrell issa prevented every single democratic amendment that was designed to try to address the issues you correctly raised. >> sure. >> in the 2006 legislation. what is so monstrous about this, ed, and you got it is they created this crisis in that lame duck legislation of the republican congress in 2006, and now they say, well, there is a crisis we created, and there is no choice but these horrible decisions that will further kill a viable and vibrant postal service. >> and audrey, if congress doesn't reverse this, there could be a day when it could be two or three days a week delivery, and then no delivery. i mean that's where this is going. the republicans are trying to starve the united states postal service. or is that a bridge too far? what do you think? >> oh, no, most certainly i agree with you. you know, this should be the time when the postal service should be expanding their business to reach out to the middle class and to small businesses to make their business succeed. you know, this standard of service is an american tradition that so many american families especially our rural communities rely on. >> it is in the constitution. there is no doubt about that. >> and also it is in the constitution, correct. correct. >> congressman gerald connolly and audrey humes, i appreciate you're time tonight. we're going to hear more on this. i'll be down in washington on the state of the union address. i'll talk to some folks about it. who knows where it's going to go. they need to change this law. share your thoughts with us on twitter and facebook. we always want to though what you think. marco rubio, senator from florida, has been tapped to give the state of the union's response as conservatives are desperately trying to create a permanent underclass of 11 million potential new americans. the mayor of los angeles joins us tonight. stay with us. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. ♪ ♪ i want candy ♪ ♪ i want candy

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