More pain, no gain. Our new poll finds festering frustration over washington and the economy. The midterm vote will steer the final years of the obama white house, but it might not be a wave either way. Meantime as a ceasefire continues to hold, our new numbers also show what the country thinks about the month of fighting in the middle east. Plus this economic anxiety is leading to electoral anxiety for kansas governor Sam Brownback. Believe it or not, he barely pushed back 60 in a primary that wasnt supposed to be competitive. This morning well talk to his democratic opponent who is suddenly the favorite in november. Paul davis. Good morning, its a special edition of the daily rundown here on august 6th, 2014. America is still digging out from the Great Recession in a way that politicians are not understanding. Lets get right to my first read of the morning. Its a new nbc wall street journal poll. Welcome to the summer of our discontent. The country still has not mentally recovered from the recession that ended five years ago and it has a message for its leaders in washington. This economic distress that were still feeling is directly your fault. Americans believe they have worked hard to dig themselves out of a tough economy. And washington, though, didnt pick up a shovel. As one of our pollsters put it, the public has put beyond feel our pain to the angrier declaration, youre causing our pain. While its not new that the public is angry at washington, now feelings have turned from frustration to exasperation. Folks are throwing up their hands and giving up on washington and the numbers are grim. 79 dissatisfied in the political system. 76 do not feel confident their childrens generation will have a better life than they do. 71 say the country is headed in the wrong direction, the highest number this year, up 8 from june. 64 dissatisfied with the state of economy despite supposed signs of improvement. 62 dissatisfied with americas role in the world and 60 describe the country in a state of decline. The Political Polarization layered on top of the weak economic recovery has created a toxic funk and that frustration is taking its toll on the president and every member of congress. Just 40 approve of the president s job performance, an alltime low for our poll. The president also hets a new low for his handling of Foreign Policy, 36 . By the way, even 30 of democrats disapprove of how hes handling Foreign Policy these days. And he had the worst favorability rating of his presidency, just 40 view him positively. It mirrors his job rating. It means its hard to see how he regains his footing any time soon. There arent folks out there anymore who say they like him personally but disapprove of the job hes doing. Those folks did exist before 2012 and was a recipe for his reelection but they dont right now. There are far fewer persuadable voters. If the president s numbers are bad, though, congress are worse. 14 approve of the job congress is doing. That number has been under 15 for six straight polls. If the president s job rating is a warning sign for democrats, this number should be a yellow flag for the gop. Americans dislike republicans in Congress Even more than they dislike the president or democrats in congress. Just 19 of americans have a positive view of congressional republicans. 54 have a negative one. Our poll to get over 50 on a positive negative because we offer neutral is a huge deal. Congressional democrats score somewhat better, 31 , hold a positive view, 46 negative. This is why republicans may not score the gains they should given the obama job rating. If you take one thing away from this poll, it should be this. Americans are fed up with their leaders in washington. A whopping 57 told us theyre so upset about something that they would actually carry a protest sign around for a day if they could. And that discontent hits just about every segment of the population. 70 of selfdescribed tea partiers, 60 of liberals, 61 of democrats, 60 of independents, 54 of republicans. All want to protest something. What would the sign say . It depends on who you ask. If you ask democrats, its things like focus on our country, do your job, congress, fix health care, stop republicans, fix immigration. If its just republicans, they tell us enforce immigration laws, follow the constitution, impeach obama, stop abortion and stop obamacare. Folks feel tremendous frustration, but the survey suggests that america is full of a thousand points of view, and that means its unlikely voters will coalesce around one issue in the fall. If anyone expects the voters to storm the barricades, think again. Our poll found some signs in improvement in how americans view the economy. Less than half the country, 49 , thinks the country is still in a recession. Thats down from 58 last summer and 77 in 08. While 50 believe the economy is improving overall, just 27 believe its improving for everyone. And a full 47 believe the economy isnt improving. By the way, where have i seen that 47 figure before . Anyway. Hiring has improved and job openings are at a sevenyear high but growth in wages has stalled and americans know it and feel it and they feel the imbalance. A majority believe the widening income gap in america undermines the idea that every american has a chance to move up the economic ladder. Think about that. A majority of americans basically believe the American Dream isnt true. 44 still believe it. 71 say they were personally impacted by the recession. 64 say they are still feeling that recessions impact. 40 say someone in their household has lost a job in the last five years. 40 . 27 have more than 5,000 in Student Loan Debt for either themselves or a child. 20 have more than 2,000 in Credit Card Debt they are unable to pay off month to month. 17 have a parcent or adult chid living with them. When it comes to the economic problems, a full 71 believe the countrys economic problems are mostly problems with the inability of elected leaders in washington to get things done to fix the economy. 23 believe they are deep and longstanding economic problems. By the way, folks, go around the campaign trail and find me one candidate running on the economy with some new idea that isnt some sort of gobbledygook idea. The public thinks these problems are solvable and the leaders are the obstacle to solving them. This is a public that voted for change for three out of the last four elections and dont believe anything has hands. Now they leave the Political Landscape in an election year. Let me bring in democratic pollster fred yang and republican pollster bill mcin tur. Bill, let me start with you. The numbers are daunting. This is a Political Landscape i dont know that weve seen before. You tried to historically mark it, 74 on the wrong track. Usually thats watergate, vietnam, iraq, but theres no one event here. One, it is the Great Recession and people telling us they have not been able to move on. It has had incredible devastating personal impact they have not dug out under and two, i think its a cumulative story that all of this news around the world has just helped unsettle people and pushed people to the point where they throw their hands up and say its not working. And i think for the president and for the country, we had 70 wrong track during the shutdowns. Those are temporal events. The concern i have is this could be continuing going forward. Yeah, this is fred yang, pat goodell in 1978 might write a memo to the sitting president and use the word melees, i hate to bring that up, but this is a funk. This feels like its going to take a long time to get this country out of this i guess its a political depression now. I think its deepseated, as bill suggests. Its political. You know, im not sure id use the m word yet. We did find in our survey, twothirds of americans are happy with their lives right now. Look, i think you hit it very well, chuck, in the intro. I think this is a political problem. I think americans think this is solvable. The missing element is no one in washington seems interested in solving the problem. And i guess that brings us, bill, to, okay, you guys are the professionals, you guys have a bunch of people running for office this year. What does this Political Landscape look like . On one hand you look at the president s job rating. Bill, youve been a big pro opponent. President s job rating, wrong track. Thats good news for an opposition party. But boy, you cant ignore how the country feels about the Republican Party either. So this uncertainty, what do you see . I think republicans will pick up a few seats in the house and i think today theyd win the senate. Its going to be a very good republican year. A wave is sort of an irrational exuberance. Thats what i think may not happen because of these numbers. The other thing that i am learning from this data is to say, look, our undecided voters, the folks who do not want to commit for a candidate are deeply, deeply economically distressed. And what they want to hear about is what are you going to do to fix the economy and what are you going to do to work with the other party to get something done. Boy, those are buttons i would be hitting after ive read and gone through all the data that ive seen in this poll. You know, fred, its interesting. We offered people what message do you want your vote to send and you had a very core 22 say they wanted more republicans to be a check on obama, 24 more democrats to help obama enact his agenda. The number that got the most the issue that got the most answers on there was 33 saying they would love to see more incumbents lose. But if independents are not interested in this election, then youre not going to see that, so are we headed for a base election which then is automatically small advantage gop . I think we look, i think in wave years, as bill said, either prodemocrat, prorepublican, one of the things that helps crest the wave are the independent voters. And in our poll, they are just not enthused the way they were in 2010, 2006. So i think this could be a wave election. And you were asking, chuck you mean could not be could not be a wave election, im sorry. You are asking earlier what are some of the things bill and i are learning as not just survey researchers but as political practitioners. I think the thing im learning and is very clear in this poll is i think the public think that say washington is ready to turn the page on the economy and move to Something Else and i think theyre saying stay on this page. Youre not even reading the same book that were reading. Its funny, bill. I watch a lot of tv advertising around the country thats sort of a pathetic weird part of my job sometimes. And i am stunned at the lack of talking about the economy beyond just sort of clap trap talking points. There isnt a new idea that either democrats or republicans are campaigning on around the country. By the way, this is why the republican governors have a little different stake because they can talk about the tangible things they try to do in their state to push things forward. That doesnt translate to a federal campaign. But yeah, i think that, again, as fred said as a political practitioners, i think that it tells you that youve got to go back and tell people we get it. I think you would identify and put people on tv commercials to talk about this guy, man, woman candidate, understands that our lives and our economy needs to be fixed and heres what he or she is doing. It might be in a house race district specific just to help get a few more jobs in that specific district. That could be very powerful in the local campaign. Fred, ive got to ask you, how do you handle the president s numbers if youre a democrat . Today, for instance, bill clinton is campaigning for alison grimes. I start to wonder is this the official batonpassing where in 2006 the Democratic Party wanted to be an obama Democratic Party and barack obama was the most popular surrogate. Now it feels as if the baton is being repassed and democrats are trying to rebrand themselves as clinton democrats, not obama democrats. Is that what you would be telling a client . Well, i think in some respects we as democrats are in the same position republicans were six years ago. Or eight years ago. Look, i think that we said earlier this could be a base election. Sure, president clinton is popular with democrats and independents. His support by the numbers goes a little broader than the president s. But barack obama is still a very strong surrogate and validater for base democratic constituencies, even though his numbers have dipped a little. Still 80 with democrats and africanamericans. If this is a base turnout election for democrats, he is still a very important marker for democratic candidates. Interesting. Could be maybe hes on the trail more than we thought come late october if this turnout is as low as we think its going to be. Anyway, fred, bill, a very important poll. Im going to spend the entire show dipping into different parts of this. A real dive into the Great Recession and ongoing recovery. Thank you both. Coming up, even more reasons why americans are down on president obama and congress. First, a third incumbent loses his seat ahead of the midterm election. That story plus the race results giving us a new picture of what will drive voters come november. Before the break, a look ahead at todays planner. The president will speak at the final day of the u. S. africa summit and have a press conference at the end of the day, perhaps his first comments about the tragedy in afghanistan. And of course what i just told you about, bill clinton on the trail in kentucky. How does he not say the word coal . That will be interesting. More on our poll in three minutes. 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Republicans in kansas and nationally cannot afford the kind of intra party fraticide that we have seen recently. Friends, we cant afford to waste scarce resources and energy tearing ourselves apart. Roberts now will take on democrat chad taylor. Hes a Shawnee County prosecutor. He won a surprisingly close primary, 53 of the vote. An independent candidate is also expected to run but given wolfs loss the seat is not going to keep republicans up at night. Democrats essentially recruited an emergency candidate the wolf won. The governors race, Sam Brownback only had 62 of the vote against a noname challenger who spent no money and may have been best known for a past personal bankruptcy and the fact her son was charged for murder over a drug deal last year. Yes, that candidate got 37 against brownback, folks. Hes in big trouble. Brownback moves on to a tossup race against paul davis. The third incumbent member of Congress Lost last night. An accidental victor two years ago, michigan congressman and former santa claus impersonator. He won when a candidate forgot to qualify. He was defeated by republican lawyer dave trott. It was a pretty good night for incumbents. The gops business wing did hope to oust justin amash and staged a reverse tea Party Challenge but amash easily defeated brian ellis. He got 57 of the vote. Tim huelskamp also survived a close primary. But republican congressman mike pompeo crushed todd tiahrt and clarke came in third. Brenda lawrence is in the lead in that race when the a. P. Has still not called. Thats for the seat of gary peters who left it open to run for the senate. Republican state senator John Moolenaar will almost certainly represent the Fourth District in the fall and mike bishop won the republican nomination to replace mike rogers in the eighth. And then theres the 12th district. Debbie dingell won the primary to succeed her husband. John conyers is poised to become the new dean of the house, after he was nearly bounced from the ballot because of a signature issue but hes now the nominee. By the way, in washington state, also holding primaries, former Washington Redskins tight end Clinton Didier came out ahead to replace don hastings in the Fourth District. Didier will take on another republican, dan newhouse in the fall. Incumbents did well last night but when it comes to november, voters may want to throw the bups out. We asked voters what message they hoped to send. 33 of them hope incumbents will lose so congress has new peep e thats good news for challengers in general election races. Though the instinct of voters may be to throw the bums out, if folks dont show up to the polls youll end up with the government you got. Enthusiasm is not just down among voters overall, its cratering among independents. Just 42 say their interest level is at a 9 or a 10. 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When it comes to how americans view the countrys role in the world 62 say theyre dissatisfied. 43 are dissatisfied with how the United States is handling the conflict between russia and ukraine. 42 of americans are dissatis dissatisfied with the situation in iraq and the rise of the terror group isis. 37 is not satisfied with the syrian civil war. Only 18 are satisfied. And 37 say they are dissatisfied with americas handling of the downing of the Malaysian Airliner over ukraine. That will tell you a lot about why the president s Approval Rating is so low these days. Turning now to new details, speaking of international affairs, on the deadly insider camp at the military base outside of kabul in afghanistan that killed twostar Major General harold green. The 34yearold veteran arrived in his first combat ever. The assailant was an afghan soldier and he had no history of suspicious behavior. Outside of Major General greens Virginia Home his family issued the following statement through an army spokesperson. They believe that the army as well as afghanistan and america has lost a true hero. He really believed in what he was doing over there and was really proud to serve. The family would like that to be known. General greens mission as to train and lead the development of Afghan National security forces, but one of those soldiers opened fire with a machine gun, killing the general and wounding eight other americans. The assailant, by the way, was killed by return fire. As a twostar general, greene is the highest active duty soldier to be killed in combat since 1970 in vietnam. His death is calling attention to the threat of insider attacks. In 2012, 53 americans were killed in 38 socalled green on blue insider attacks. Last year that dropped to 16 killed in ten incidents. So far this year there have been three killed in two attacks. U. S. 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Its not just a sedan. Its a subaru. Well, were almost 33 hours into a 72hour ceasefire between hamas and israel. The truce has lasted longer than any other ceasefire declared by either side. Delegations from both sides are in cairo for talks on a more durable peace deal. Meanwhile the ceasefire has allowed people to go back to their homes and even some markets opened in gaza today. Some families are seeing the destruction in their neighborhoods for the First Time Since the exchange of hamas rockets and israeli air strikes began 29 days ago. Israeli troops and tanks were deployed near the gaza border this morning preparing for any potential violence. Here at home, todays poll shows a pulurality of americans beliee israel is justified in taking action. 24 believe israel has gone too far. 34 believe the u. S. Should favor the israelis over the palestinians. A majority continue to say we should treat both sides the same. Joining me is former israeli ambassador to the United States, michael orin, ambassador, good morning to you. Good morning, chuck. Very quickly, i want to wrap something up. I know you had an interview with andrea mitchell, we had some technical issues. Let me just repeat the question that she asked and that is simply about this idea that israel has been eavesdropping on secretary kerrys phone calls, sort of his unencrypted phone. He wasnt using an encrypted phone. Is that something that you know the Israeli Intelligence to do from time to time . Thank you for the opportunity to respond to that. When andrea was asking me the question, the audio fell and people in the blogsphere had a bit of a field day thinking i was trying to dodge the question. Israel doesnt spy on the United States, doesnt eavesdrop on the United States. No eavesdropping, no spying. Hang on. Israel has been caught spying before in the United States. Theres somebody in jail 1985. All right. In 1985. But you said declaratively israel doesnt spy on the United States. Thats not true. They have in the past. Youre saying its not happening anymore. That was the last time. Okay. It has not happened, almost 30 years. Okay. I want to ask about the process in cairo here. Number one, whether you believe the United States still can play a role in this, it does seem as if the Prime Minister would like the u. S. To be on the sidelines and that they want egypt to play the main role. Is that the fair way to look at this . I dont think so. I think israel would welcome an american role. Its been traditionally americas role to step in at a crucial time in negotiations to close gaps between the parties. And that was certainly the case in 2012 when secretary of state Hillary Clinton stepped in to mediate a prolonged ceasefire. But going into these negotiations in cairo, the Prime Minister is coming from a position of strength. Earlier on in your broadcast you talked about the low support for president obama in Foreign Policy issues. Just the opposite is happening here. A singular majority of israelis support Prime Minister netanyahus handling of this crisis. Interestingly enough, among the few who oppose his handling are some of the demobilized reserve officers and soldiers. I saw numbers in the street just before in tel aviv, they wanted to go on and keep on fighting. I think that the Prime Minister will look for a positive american role to deny hamas a victory in this, to make sure that the gaza strip would be demilitaryized of hamas rockets. How do you demilitarize gaza . Yeah, it is possible and there are Interesting Press dents. One very recent in fact and it was a singular success and that was removing chemical weapons from the arsenal of Bashar Al Assad in seyria. That was done through International Efforts and the persistence of a credible military threat, so israel, as you mentioned earlier, is maintaining its military deployment along the gaza strip. Now the International Community can mobilize to get those missiles out of gaza. So you would like to see a syrialike plan that we dealt with chemical weapons around the world. Ambassador, im going to leave it there. Thanks very much for coming on the show. Good day to you. Im joined now by ambassador arikat. Ambassador, good morning to you. Good morning. Let me start with what you want to see out of the cairo talks. Well, what we would like to see is a longterm solution to the gaza strip. The gaza strip has been under blockade siege by the Israeli Military since 2007. In order to avoid the cycle of violence from erupting again, the underlying political issues must be addressed, lifting the siege, allowing the palestinians in the gaza strip to move freely and to you know, to feel that they are free and living in dignity there. Well, let me ask you this. Can that happen with hamas as part of it . Can they really be part of the solution given that they appear to be almost inciting the violence . I dont agree at all, you know. Hamas is a part of the palestinian political social fabric. Nobody can count them out. We have been talking to them as the plo to bring them into the fold of the plo. Had israel accepted the Palestinian National consensus government announced on june 2nd instead of undermining it, we would have been able to pursue certain political steps with hamas to spread the rule of the Palestinian Authority to the gaza strip and hopefully bring hamas onboard for a political resolution to the conflict with israel. Well, if youre in israels shoes, though, and you are bringing on a partner that hamas believes israel does not have a basically have a right to exist, how why shouldnt israel react the way it reacted . You know, its interesting. Everybody asking palestinian faction to recognize the socalled conditions. Why not ask the Israeli Government, the current Israeli Government to accept this conditions. This current Israeli Government does not abide by its previous agreements with the plo, continues to violate them. Does not recognize the right of the Palestinian People to an independent state. Yes, they say it in public, but in effect what they are doing on the ground is undermining, preventing the palestinians from establishing their state. So maybe the question should be directed to this current Israeli Government. Let me ask you this. Do you think that president abbas and Prime Minister netanyahu, do you think they could ever be the two people to strike a deal that actually gets us a twostate solution . I dont know about Prime Minister netanyahu but i know about president abbas. Hes a very courageous leader, took very brave positions in the past. Said that our goal is to end the conflict, to end all historical claim, twostate solution on 22 of what used to be historical palestinian, end the conflict, have full comprehensive peace with israel, exist with israel. I think that is a very courageous position that has not been matched by the israelis. Ambassador, thank you for joining me this morning and sharing your views. I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Up next, democrat paul davis on his battle to unseat kansas republican governor Sam Brownback. Is whats going on in the kansas Republican Party a sign of things to come for the gop nationally . 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Well, as weve been telling you, kansas incumbent governor, Sam Brownback, made a relatively weak showing in a primary where he didnt have a real opponent. He won 63 of the vote against a virtual unknown with all that baggage i told you about. Thats a significant protest vote inside the Republican Party and democrats are obviously hoping that tension propels them to victory in november. When brownback won his first term he pushed for unprecedented tax cuts, especially for businesses. Todays poll shows most americans agree with that approach overall when it comes to dealing with the economy. 85 believe companies should get tax incentives to bring back jobs from overseas. 66 believe lowering business taxes does help the economy. But contrary to brownbacks tax plan, 64 also think increasing taxes on the richest 1 would help. So in a sign of how vulnerable brownpack is, the Republican Governors Association is already out with an ad that looks like this. When few supported barack obama, there was a liberal lawrence legislator who believed. Paul davis helped organize kansas for obama. Then davis was an obama delegate at the Democrat National convention and four years later after the failed stimulus, massive bailouts, record debt, a stalled economy and the obamacare disaster, paul davis was right back at the Democrat Convention with obama. Well, there you go. We know how Sam Brownback wants to run against his democratic opponent. Im joined now by his official democratic opponent for kansas governor, paul davis. Mr. Davis, good morning to you, sir. Good morning, chuck. Youre the minority leader there, of course, in the legislature. Let me ask you this just to respond to that ad. Obviously republicans want to tie you to national democrats. Are there significant places where you disagree with president obama that you think kansas voters should know about . Well, chuck, what we know Sam Brownback is going to do is take every opportunity to try to change the subject in this election and not talk about his dismal record as governor. You know, ive got a 12year record in the legislature of being able to bring democrats and republicans together, and i think that differentiates me with barack obama, who has had a very difficult time building bipartisan consensus in washington, d. C. Were going to need somebody who can unite people if were going to be able to address the issues that we have in kansas and start to clean up the mess that Sam Brownback has created. All right. So if you get elected governor, the first thing youre going to do is repeal his tax cuts . Is that the first thing on your agenda and essentially raise taxes for a lot of kansans . Well, chuck, what weve proposed is that we need to freeze the rates where they are at, starting on january 1 of 2015, and then we need to take a look at our tax code from top to bottom and figure out how we can get our economy moving again. I think this is a common sense way that we can actually get support from democrats and republicans and a good first step to cleaning up this mess that Sam Brownback has made over the past three and a half years. So by freezing rates, i know its sort of a correct me if im wrong, its a twostep process of his cuts. So you would codify some of his tax cuts. Do you think some of them have been justified . Well, what weve got to do here, chuck, is find a way to get our economy moving again and weve got to be able to bring democrats and republicans together. The state of kansas is facing a budget deficit of well over a billion dollars from Sam Brownbacks tax experiment. We simply cant afford to do that. It means cuts to schools, cuts to transportation and all those Critical Services that the people of kansas depend upon. Weve got to figure out a way to get our economy moving again and get out of this mess. Well, let me ask you about a couple of issues that you may be dealing with if you are elected governor. Number one, Health Care Exchange, Medicaid Expansion in kansas. Thats something that i know often on governor brownback has been negotiating with the Obama Administration at least on a minimum at Medicaid Expansion. Where are you on that. If you are elected governor, do you want to push to have kansas have its own Health Care Exchange . Chuck, weve already missed the boat on the exchange. Our insurance commissioner, sandy prager, who is a republican and has done a very good job was well positioned to form our own state exchange and we should have done it. We could have avoided the whole obamacare rollout mess for all the kansans who were looking to Purchase Health insurance. During this campaign ive spent a lot of time talking to people in health care. When im hearing uniformly from them is that Medicaid Expansion is critical to the Health Care Providers in our state. Many hospital administrators have told me that if they dont have Medicaid Expansion, theyre worried that they may have to close their doors, especially in rural areas in our state. So youre definitely going to do that. Its never to late to start an exchange according to the Obama Administration. Why do you think that ship has sailed . Well, thats my understanding. Certainly were willing to look into it if that possibility exists, but i think Sam Brownback absolutely made the wrong decision. Whenever we have the opportunity to do something the kansas way instead of having the federal government do it, we ought to seize on that opportunity. Another issue that some states are deciding to do on their own, im curious about the minimum wage. If elected governor, do you plan on calling for an increase in the minimum wage in kansas if the federal government doesnt do it . Well, the minimum wage in kansas does not affect a very significant number of people who are in the workplace. I think that there are other ways in which we can get our economy moving and we can unite employees and employers. What we need to do is use proven ways to grow our economy, because our economy is lagging behind our surrounding states and the rest of the country. Kbo governor brownbacks approach which is trickledown economics has been tried before and it just isnt working and its not going to work. Im going to stop you there. You say proven ways. What are they . I understand youre running against brownback saying it aint working and thats what a challenger does to an incumbent. What are these proven ways. Youre not for raising the minimum wage. What are you for . The proven ways are partnering with communities. The folks in russell, kansas, know a lot more about how to grow their local economy than folks in the state capitol. We have to understand that a one size fits all approach simply isnt going to work. Im sure senator dole, who is probably watching, will note you made the reference as well. Thank you for coming on this morning. Good to be with you, chuck. Trivia time. Three tennessee congressman served as speaker of the hours. John bell, james polk, and joseph burns. Congratulations to todays winner, chris arthur. Well be right back. In the nation, the safest feature in your car is you. Add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance and get 100 off for every year of safe driving. Which for you, shouldnt be a problem. Just another way we put members first, because we dont have shareholders. Join the nation. Nationwide is on your side. When la quinta. Com sends sales rep Steve Hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. You know what he brings . Any questions . 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