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Than double the national average. Then theres the rising hispanic population thats nearly doubled in just the past decade. Just like in many places around the country, the gop establishment is fighting off its tea Party Opposition for the open senate seat here hoping to keep the state of georgia red. That chal singe from michelle, a hardcharging democrat intent on keeping the south blue. Here on the set with us is patricia murphy. She is the editor of citizen jane politics and shes a daily beast contributor. She covers National Politics here in georgia. Risha, thank you so much for being with us today. Welcome to georgia. Thank you. We are loving it here. Were having so much fun. I want to start where i left off there in the lead. We are seeing these very far right conservetive laws passing in a state that is slowly trending more and more blue. Its not a blue state by any means, but these laws seem to be out of step with where the population here is actually going. I would agree with that. We have a very, very conservative legislature, house and Senate Republicans control every statewide office. Republicans control both houses. Its not all republicans in the state, of course. I think we do see a disconnect with what the legislature is doing and where the state is going. You can talk about the population changes. Pollsters i talk to say georgia doesnt feel like its there yet to be truly a swing state, but for democrats to win they need to start recruiting really good candidates, and they have some great candidates this cycle. We obviously are seeing Michelle Nunn on this ticket and carter, the grandson of president carter, the state the guy running for agriculture commissioner is the son of a politician. Theyve recruit aid number of candidates that will do very well. You know, the biggest question is going to be turnout, and so turnout typically in a midterm year is about 2. 5 million in a president ial years its about four million. Thats why president obama does d so well. Theres a huge infrastructure. The state Democratic Party does not have that infrastructure. The only way that theyre going to have a chance of winning this year is to raise a lot of poen money and get an enormous different a completely different turnout that came out in 2010. Lets talk a little bit more about that turnout because georgia, unfortunately, was passing restrictive voter id laws really before a lot of other states. They were sort of in the forefront of that, and, yet, despite those restrictive voter id laws, weve actually seen africanamerican turnout in particular grow even more rapidly than their population growth would imply. Do you think that that is just because of having the first africanamerican president on the president ial ballot, or do you see that as more of a lasting sustainable change . I think its both. I think it was absolutely because barack obama was at the top of that ticket and barack obama had a terrific ground game. He didnt spend a lot of money raising ads when they had to pick and choose. They really didnt pick georgia to spend a lot of their money, but because the president still came within five points of mitt romney, that sent a message to republicans and democrats alike. Georgia is changing, and its changing quickly. Longterm republicans feel like the legislature went too far, the governor went too far, and the republican nominee also voted for that bill. I think people see the legislature going that direction, and theyre very uncomfortable. I think its a good place for democrats to be. The Republican Party up against the tea party and were seeing the establishment candidates actually seem like theyre going to end up being victorious and might run off against each other, but really theyre leaving the conservative candidates to the curb. With the Tea Party Movement, it really was unsustainable. You think about it lasting longer term. One of two things would have happened, right . They would have taken over the Republican Party, and then the free party system would have emerged or they would die off, and it seems like that is what were beginning to see. Well, im not going to put dirt on the grave of the Tea Party Movement just yet. You know, it actually came within just a few thousand votes of beating governor diehl in 2010. Shes surging right now. Shes come in ahead of kingston and sort of flipflopping for second and third in these polls, so it could be kingston and perdue. Shes a very Strong Social conservative. Georgia remains a very conservative state, especially socially conservative state. I dont know that its really its not quite as black and white as establishment versus conservative. He is very wealthy, but never run for office. I is the cousin of the former governor, though. A lot of voets think that the governor is running. They think david purdue and governor purdue are theere are hammering. People always say what is it like to be on a tv show with John Huntsman . It adds to the political well get a these primary races, are about turnout. Its been fluid, but we see david purdue at 24 . Jack kingston, at 17. Karen at 14. If you look at the average, but i think the questions goes to the deeper point, which is is the toor party battle within the Republican Party. Is it about issues or also cultural . Whether or not purdue has run, i would say he is part of that old guard culture, and kingston, whatever he wants to claim about being about fiscal discipline and change is an old guard longtime incumbent. He is part of the old Republican Party. He was with bush when it was cool to be with bush. He may try to reposition, but is the tea party as much about cultural symbols here as it is about policy . It is. I would separate it as business republicans and socially conservative and tea party republicans. David purdue is absolutely a business republican. Former ceo of reebok and dollar general. He brings that in, and its very attractive to the Business Community in atlanta, and he has got ain lot of their support. Jack kingston, chamber of commerce, and they are spending millions for him. We have the two business kedz clumped up, and the tea party multiple Tea Party Candidates clumped up, and they are really fighting it out. What we see at a National Level with the Tea Party Versus the business and the more moderate praying mattist, were seeing the exact same thing. Georgia is sort of following in the footsteps of North Carolina. Maybe a few years behind. Pollsters i talk to say yes. The dem graphic changes that have happened in virginia and Northern Virginia and in North Carolina with the triangle, those are the changes happening in the atlanta area in particular. Is georgia as close to being a blue state as virginia . No. Is it as close to being a purple state as North Carolina . Probably not. Individual candidates can change that. The candidates that the democrats have recruited or can decide to come forward on their own, those are the candidates you need to win a race in this state that is still trending. Talk a little bit about those candidates because they are relatively unique individuals. They have really well known names. You have jason carter, as you were pointing out. Grandson of jimmy carter. You have michelle nun also a famous political name in the state. Are these candidates doing well here just because of their name, or does it speak more to sort of the trending blue of this state . Also, do they really have a shot to win, or once the field solidifies on the senate side, are they going to is michelle going to have a tougher battle there . It really depends on who the republicans nominate against Michelle Nunn. If the republicans nominate one of the tea party conservatives, possibly caryn hindle or paul brown. If any of those wins, democrats feel like they have an excellent chance of beating them. If purdue comes forward as a republican nominee or even kingston, those guys raise a ton of money. They have very sophisticated operations. They already have a very strong ground game because they have such tough primaries. They are going to take that momentum with them into the fall. For michelle, shes not necessarily going to be the master of her own dis destiny. The republicans will have to help her out a little bit, and then for jason carter, i think everybody agrees that he is a very bright light for democrats. Can he beat an incumbent governor who has collars 4 million in the bank. The governor is going to have to make some mistakes. He does have a number of ethics charges against him. Those are playing out throughout the fall and summer. Again, he needs to really have a bad stumble for carter to come back. Its possible. Georgia, having democrats able to win an election in more than a decade. Its a very different landscape. The thing i think that a lot of us are thinking is were looking at some of the national indicators, the president s popularity is down, Health Care Law still not popular on the generic congressional ballot, republicans are doing better than democrats, but then when you look at a state like georgia and say democrats have a chance to win there, it seems like the specific on the ground not just in georgia, but in arkansas, potentially in North Carolina with Mary Landrieu in louisiana, it seems like the specifics in these states are making democrats more competitive than the National Landscape would sort of dictate. I agree that, and, again, it comes down to recruiting very strong candidates, which they have done so here. Even the Health Care Law obama care not popular, but when you look at whats happening in the state, the governor chose not to take the medicaid money, so there are 500,000 people not eligible who would have been. Even more importantly, a number of small rural hospitals are falling through that crack. Woe see a number of small rural hospitals in conservative areas of the state closing down. That is a hugely important thing to local communities and to see what looks to be a political decision by the governor of closing down rural hospitals that really is about that starts to make people think twice. You start to couple that with the Guns Everywhere bill, and see somebody like michelle nun still very popular in the state and well respected and respected by republicans. You can start to see how the stars could line up for democrats. Again, theyre not necessarily going to be in charge of their own destiny on this one, but its possible. Again, its thats a very different reality for democrats who have been sort of slogging away in the trenches for the last decade. Absolutely. Its so interesting to look at National Politics that we talk about so much through sort of the local state lens and see how those trends matter. Patricia murphy, thank you so much. Thank you. We are just Getting Started here. Msnbcs growing hope event live here in atlanta, and you can see of it like the pregame. Were warming up to the rev at 6 00 p. M. Eastern, and then at 8 00 weve got chris hayes. He is also live from right here at the sweet auburn festival. We are growing hope, and up next the mission of civil rights marches on here and across the nation. Martin luther king iii joins us as the cycle rolls on. Live from atlanta for friday, march 9th. This is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. During the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. 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Protests staged here pushed back against segregation, helped consolidate black voting power and improved Economic Opportunities in the black community. A lot of that power rested here, auburn avenue. The thing that made the Sweet Auburn Historic District so unique was the role that its churches and businesses played in the Civil Rights Movement and the way we impacted the Student Protest Movement that swept atlantas black institutions. There was the 1945 march from mlks church to atlanta city hall. The push to desegregate city buses in the late 1950s. The 1960 mass sitins at lunch counters inside Atlanta Department stores. The 1962 naacp boycott of restaurants and hotels for barring blacks from service. A massive rally the following year in hart park attended by 2,500 activists, including dr. King followed by the desegregation of atlantas public schools. Today 650,000 visitors come to see kings home every year. Atlanta is now the home to both the king center and the National Center for civil and human rights. Both are working to advance atlantas civil rights legacy, and both are working to grow hope for equality for all. Its a topic our next guest knows a thing or two about. Ari. Thank you for that report. Joining us now is the man, Martin Luther king iii. Welcome. Thank you. Good to be here. I think everyone at home can hear the cheers. Its exciting to have you here. When you look at this anniversary, we just added a Civil Rights Act, and you think of next year, the 50th anniversary of the Voting Rights act, and you think of Martin Luther kings legacy. He wasnt marching for a holiday or for people to give speeches. We did see a bipartisan celebration of the Civil Rights Act anniversary, which is fine, but were not seeing the same bipartisanship on the hill, for example, with Speaker Boehner allowing a vote on the very bill that renewed the Voting Rights act. Of course, the John Lewis Jim sensenbrenner bill. Speak about that and what should be done. Until American People stand up, in a sense, as we did in the 1960s to let our Congress People know, i think the speaker is operating based on who he is hearing from. The masses of people are not saying, look, we want to be engaged and able to vote. The fact that our city has created a new id, and the fact that theres no proof of any fraud is very is sad, and these are cities all over the state across america. But when people stand up, it takes just a few good women and men to bring about change. I think my father showed us that. He didnt have masses. Yes, we saw 250,000 people at the march in washington, but most of the demonstrations were 50 to 100 people. When your father the year you were born, 1957, your father said that the negro has been betrayed by both the republican and the Democratic Party. Now, that was years before l. B. J. Stepped forward with the Great Society and the civil rights bill that changed the rit relationship between the plaque people and the parties. Do you think today the modern Democratic Party earns enough to get the overwhelming support from black people . Is it taking black people for granted in a way . I would have to say that the party does not do enough, and, yes, the answer to that is yes, but, again, its our responsibility to hold any party accountable. Im not sure we do that. I think we have to find a way to hold the parties accountable as well as, you know, i dont think that its we are not a monolithic people. While i happen to be a democrat, i think its important for africanamericans to be republicans. I think its important for africanamericans to be independent. I say this. I also think its important to be engaged with the tea party. Why would it be important for us to be engaged with the tea party . Because the only way you can change the only way you can change is you have to be at least communicating. If theres no communication, you just let someone have an agenda. My dad would go and there were people who were meeting with whites who were against just our being here, as you know. So on that point do you think the tea partys problem with president obama is only about his policies or Something Else about him . Probably a combination of that. Certainly the policies are the mask. Right now we are dealing with race issues constantly in this country, and while we choose to run from them as opposed to confronting them head on a mystery to me. We need to always address race issues. Were looking at what is happening as it relates to mr. Sterling or cliven bundy. These incidents happen each and every day to some to some africanamerican. If we have dialogue, if we teach diversity, sensitivity, human relations, i believe thats where we begin to get at some of these issues, but it has to start in kindergarten. I love that message. Were all americans. If we cant communicate, how do we make any progress in society . Theres a great story about you that i love. When you are 8 years old and you are i think in your third great class, and you felt firsthand what it was like to be harassed by racial comments and insults by a white boy, and you instead instead of fighting back, you turned it around, and you complimented him on his drawing. He stopped harassing you at that moment. In your life when you look back, how often have you turned a negative experience into a positive . I mean, isnt that what all of this is about . I think that is a part of what its about. I think that we can in most cases at least people who are report to be civil and humane, theres a way you can find a way to connect. I think with all human beings. Thats what we have to find a way to lift up where are we all alike . We can disagree. Dad taught us how to disagree without being disagreeable. We as a society have not learned that yet. Thats well put. I hi thats part of what this growing hope gathering is about. Thank you for joining us. Its an honor. Thank you for the opportunity. Appreciate it. Up next, what is going more details. Well have a tour of the greenhouse and the garden right behind us, and you can share your hope with us. Mine is equality for all right now. Tweet us yours with that hash tag, growing hope, or if you are not into that, come on by. Weve got a whole website msnbc. Com growing hope. Stay with us. Unlimited cash back. Let that phrase sit with you for a second. Unlimited. As in, no limits on your hardearned cash back. As in no more dealing with those rotating categories. The quicksilver card from capital one. Unlimited 1. 5 cash back on everything you purchase, every day. Dont settle for anything less. 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There was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours we are growing hope right here in atlanta. We are out 30 rock and we are in the community to talk about what matters most to you. We are at the sweet auburn festival. The gates are open, and this is our growing hope garden. Its built from the notion that when hope is nurtured, people are ready for action. When i think about atlanta, he think about the Civil Rights Movement, and that was all about the hope of a generation. If you want to get involved, come down here to sweet auburn festival or join us at another of our growing hope events or join us online. Log on to msnbc. Com growing hope. Its easy, and similar to what visitors here will do. You fill out some info, and includes your hopes for your community, whatever they may be. Fighting inequality, better access to Early Childhood education, Voting Rights. Whatever motivates you. If you are online, your hope will get added to our virtual tree, and can you hair it on facebook and twitter. Whatever. You check out other peoples hope. Its all right here. Since i know youre on your iphone or your computer right now doing this, let me share my hope with you. I hope for a senseible Campaign Finance system because our current one fuels inequality and injustice and so many of our biggest problems. If you can make it here, well print out your hope and plant it in the garden just like that. This massive mobile garden deals with all the things that were hoemg hoping for. Health and environment and better economy, better community, and, of course, better education for our kids because that is a pillar of growing hope. Krystal has more on that. At the Ron Clark Academy in southeast atlanta, the average day is anything but average. Kids are cheering and dancing. I love the color in the classroom. The class of science. Energy. The core thing including myself on the wall. Drums punctuate grammar lessons. Animals bring science so life, and solving an algebra equation ends like this. Hiphop to harry potters hogwarts, and you get rca, only here competing houses are named after valued character traits. Its portuguese, and it means to give. This magical wonderland of education is the brainchild of ron clark. They make it magical. Its fun. Its exciting. Its hands on. We want kids to love it. Its a blend. Its a blend of true academic rigor, but we use these engaging strategies and methods so that all the kids are excited to get up to that level. And getting to the next level at this middle school is not all fun and games. The y and the n, what do you think we should do first here . What is the quad root of 81, everybody. Three. The quad root of 25, which is five. You got it . I remember getting my first that first month is definitely boot camp. It was. Its horrible. It was wanting to keep pushing, and it breaks you down a little bit, but then he teaches us how to lift each other back up. You got this. Here we are pushing these kids. Were challenging them. Frederick douglas said its easier to build strong children than repair broken adults, and we are making sure that our kids are prepared so that when they leave us, they can go out and be successful in the real world. And keeping the spark is no magic trick either. We all bring our own unique brand, but because of him he better bring it to the top of your game. Not because he demands it necessarily, but can you imagine being a teacher and having to go behind him and teach kids that have just left his class . Clark is an accidental teacher. He honed his unique style in rural North Carolina and in east harlem. He was named disneys teacher of the year in 2000 and had the bestselling book on the 55 essential rules spelling out everything from how you greet someone to how you look at life. All the rules, you cant have your lock unlocked on your locker. How to shake somebodys hand firmly, not too tight, not too soft. You could bring your phone, but you couldnt keep it open. Everybody knows this rule. No doritos are allowed in the school. We do have i allot of strict rules here. He is the reason why i wanted to be here. He is the most exciting person. He is old, but he has all this excitement like built up in him. Its just amazing. You wouldnt guess his age at all. In 2007 clark and fellow teacher of the year kim bearden built their dream school from scratch, their toughest assignment next. We looked at the building and looked back at each other and said its perfect. It had this broken windows and old worn out factory, and it shows that theres potential in everything, and we wanted to be in a place where we could uplift a community as well. Seven years later students from this community and beyond are clambering to get in. Last year 30 students were chosen out of 350 applications. When i first joined the academy, i thought it was a school for rich people or Something Like that. I was totally wrong. This is actually much more diverse school, and it has more africanamericans and hispanic and people who are asian here. Its basically saying dont judge a book by its cover. We talk about race all the time. I know american teachers would extend to say i dont see color when i look at my class. I just see children. I love them all equally, but we feel and kim and i tell our teach thaerz you need to see color because if you dont see color, you dont see culture, and so were very open with our students about race. We talk about issues that affect our kids. Ability and socioeconomic background determines who gets in. Its a little more complicated than that. Teachers often talk about when they so many kids of so many Different Levels of skill and ability, how do you teach them all . We have students of diverse ability levels and diverse success before they came here academically, and we have 30 minute class just like the teachers do. Can this really be replicated across the country . Clarks says the teachers are the key. 20,000 teachers from 42 states and 22 countries have all trained here and all were welcomed with the same right of passage. This is the Famous Academy and its the center of the school. The first thing any of them have to do when they come here is to get slide certified. We say in life a lot of people are taking the stairs. Theyre taking the boring way that everybody else has always been. We say in life sometimes you immediate to slide. You got to make your own path. We tell our teachers here, dont be afraid to teach in ways no one has ever thought much. We tell our kids, dont be afraid to have a thought no one has ever conceived of, and we tell visiting educate ors that come in from around the world, when you go down sloot slide, you are part of this revolution. Take this passion with you, and go back out to your classrooms and be better. Ron clark said educators who have trained here have touched ten mule students, and as cool as what happens in this building is, whats really cool is the hope theyre growing across the country. Not every student that comes to this school can walk through the doors every day, but we regularly touch those teachers, and we know were touching at least 20 kids in a classroom, and that really warms your heart. It really keeps you going. You know, now its not about you, but its about being selfless. Its incredible. At the same time it breaks your heart. There are so many kids out there who are having a miserable education experience that wont have a shot in life because theyre not getting what they need to and not being shown all the brilliance and the beauty that they have within them. It was an amazing day, and i was really excited to be able to share it with everyone. Mroo it was such a moving package, and who needs to dance like that, by the way . Its an incredible job. I mean, you brought your game. Really so moving. My takeaway is the community, how they rely on each other. I also how happy they all look. They are all so thrilled to be learning and doing things together. Also, theyre confident, which is something that i think its a difficult quality for anyone to develop, but for them to develop that as such an early age will help them month matter what they end up doing in life. Im sure you saw that firsthand. These are middle schoolers, and they walk up to you with all the poise and selfconfidence in the world. They give you a Firm Handshake and give you a hug. They ask you about your day. I mean, it is i would be hard pressed think of a lot of adults who have the poise and the grace and the wisdom that these children do. Yeah. Its so powerful to be nurturing that, and these young black kids, because just the challenge of developing selfesteem as a black person in this country is so hard, and it was so moving to see that in kids, the communication, skills, and the confidence, and i love what he said about dealing with race. I think a lot of people feel like being colorblind is the forward step. Its the most progressive step, and its really not. Being black is a big part of me. Being white is a big part of you. If we dont acknowledge those things and are aware of those things, then were not moving forward. Dealing with that head on as this beautiful white man. He is educating all these black kids. Its im so glad you took us inside that school. One question i came away with, which is what kind of coffee is ron clark drinking, and can i get some. Especially when he is doing dude, he is working hard and having fun all day. It also goes to resources, right . This is an incredible model. The question can we scale it, and the question about Charter Schools is often a question whether we want to invest in our schools, right . If we think about the work here in atlantaed, youre telling this amazing story. Nationally at the federal level, were being told everything has to be fiscal austerity, and you raise the point about community. Thats surely important. If you want a smaler class size or you want children that can be built up or a new slide and curriculum and well trained teachers, then we have to put our resources into that . Then a sliding tuition scale, you pay what you can afford. Its very important to them that that he have a Diverse Group of socioeconomic brack grounds there. The Atlanta Community has sduded its worth investing in, and i think, you know, one lesson that i took away from it, when you think about scaleability is we dont ask our population enough to invest directly in education. That was one thing i thought about. Not every school can have a ron clark, but a lot of schools and they train 20,000 teachers can take some of the principles of engagement and the confidence theyve instilled in these children back to their home district. Theyre already impacting over ten million students. Did you get on the trampoline . Absolutely. That was how that was the first thing i did when i got there. My blood was rushing. It was an amazing day. I was really grateful to have a chance to do it. Nutrition for the mind. Up next, nutrition tore the body. Meet the man Whose Mission it is to make Healthy People from healthy food. First, a bit of breaking news from the fallout of the clippers scandal. The nba has just named dick carsons ceo of the team. 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Well, we are about to introduce you to someone who is helping to grow stronger, healthier communities. Rashid nuri runs a Truly Living Well Center for natural urban agriculture. His garden which is only a short distance from us rose and provides fresh naturally grown food for families and local atlanta communities. People come to the garden from all over the area to volunteer to grow the foods they eat making eating fresh food for a community event. Heres why this is so important. 13 Million People across the country live in low income food deserts, as they should called. Fresh food is essentially out of their reach in those areas. It has soared and not surprisingly crushing health costs accompany that as well. Clearly, the appetite exists for fresh, healthy food in these communities. They are hungry for it, and rashid, nuri, who is in the garden with us. This is incredible. I wish our audience watching on the tv sets could see where we are. We are surrounded by fresh herbs, vegetables, beautiful flowers that we have here on the set. You have really made this your mission in life to close this food gap. Why here in atlanta, and how are you seeing life change . Well, our work is transformed. People and places. Atlanta is the greenest city in america by virtue of trees and open space. We have enough land in the met to pan area to provide all the fruits and vegetables not meat and grains, but all the fruits and vegetables to feed people in theres a way and the resources are provided. I think its very important. It used to be that people who lived within walking distance of where their food was produced. That doesnt happen now. Your food travels 1,700 Hilary Clintons 2,000 miles before it gets to your table. The paradigm has shifted. The aigriculture paradigm has shifted. For us to continue to ship food from long distances to feed people locally makes no sense. We have seen a real deterioration of Community Institutions and community structure. How important is that Community Piece of what you are doing there . Its the most important part. Everything the garden is the predicate, the foundation of which we build and sell the food to people, consumers, restaurants, stores. Mostly directly in the hands of people. We give we have different tiers of sales. One of the more important is for every dollar its really the core part of the systemic raises. Donald sterling is there, and theres a disproportionate impact on black and brown communities. Theres lots of research that shows we tend to live further away from supermarkets and healthy food options than white communities. How do we change that . Right . How do we move forward and get the a lot of it is dealing with retail place from urban areas. How do we change that . Some of that how do we change that is through the work that were doing . I think theres a misnomer. I dont like the word food desert. It puts a color on it. You think of the poor people and people of color. Living in food deserts, the fabbing is that folks in rich communities have to travel long distances to get their food as well as the folks that live in the poor communities. They have three times as many supermarkets as we do in poorer communities. Yes and no. Okay . The issue is economic justice, social justice, food sovereignty, food selfsufficiency. If i have to take two buss and a train to get to food, that creates an economic burden on me. Yes. I think those are the economic injustice that is we need to look at. I think what were trying to do is help educate all people across all socioeconomic levels the importance of quality foods. Quality foods in this country should be a right, not a privilege. As it stands right now, its a privilege. Those are the injustice that is were trying to correct. How do you think its going impact the young kids . We talk about obesedy, and that hits directly at the young kids. Young kids, old kids, everybody. Its about quality food. The kinds of food that are being offered to us and whats prifl sent a neighborhood that we live. The children we have a wonderful summer camp. Its just amazing. A wonderful woman who runs, to see her work with those children, we do work in the schools teaching teachers. If a child plants a seed and watches it grow, theyre likely to eat it. Okay . Theyre also likely to say, hey, mommy, daddy, i want more of this because it tastes good. We have our summer camp. We provide we do luncheons all year long, but the summer camps, the children, some of them its the healthiest food theyve ever had. They are able to leave the camp and go back home and continue with better habits that have been learned and established here. We have seen some of the some amazing transformations of young people whose Health Conditions after just two weeks of being out here, being outside, not stuck in front of a television or a computer tube or one of the other video games that theyre playing, come out here and get in fresh air, eating fresh food, their health has changed, their attitudes have changed, and thats very exciting. Aits amazing the things that you are doing. I love the sense of community down here in atlanta. Youre the perfect example of that. Thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate it. Up next, atlanta through our eyes. After all weve been here 12 hours, and now that is up next. Yes, we do know cnn headquarters is also here. That did not stop us. Keep wieting us at growing hope. Well be right back. vo oh. My. Tongue. Finally. announcer allnew friskies saucesations. A taste experience like no other. In cheesy, creamy, homestyle, or garden sauce. Friskies. Feed the senses. 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I saw a lot of the beauty of atlanta and some of the more difficult side of atlanta. One of the things that really sort of strikes me about where the city is right now is that the baseball team, right, that quintessential american pastime, the braves, are moving their stadium out of the city and into the suburbs. How do you all feel about the braves moving out . This is a painful part of whats going on in the city right now. Thats going to cost tax dollars, its going to cost jobs. That just represents some of the physical segregation that we see in this city that we dont necessarily see in some other cities where the urban centers are struggling but the suburbs are doing better or thriving. Its just difficult to see the city going two directions at once. You know, this is my first time visiting atlanta. Actually i love it here. Theres such a sense, though, of community, which is what i will take away from this. Here we are talking about what we are all hopeful for. What i say im hopeful for is continuing to fight for equality. But what that means, its more than hope, right . Its actually believing that we can make something happen, that hope will actually lead to action. And i think as we talk about the way it used to be, segregated schools, remember those days, i hope that one day well say remember when you couldnt love what you wanted to love and i hope we get there. I think its places like this, communities like this where change, real change is actually made. And thats what for me has been very inspiring and very restorative even about being here. Getting to see the house where dr. King was born, getting to be here at the heart of where so much civil rights history was made. It reminds you the odds that they faced then seemed so long and so intractable and its easy now to look at our political system and to want to throw our hands up and say its impossible, the republicans are always going to stand in the way, they can never work together, whats going to change this. But the odds at that time seem much longer than what were facing now. So abby, i think youre right. The start of progress is hope. First you have to be optimistic and believe that its worth putting yourself out there to try to make a change in your community and in the country. Yeah, i think thats powerful thinking about the time weve spent, just a little time here and your time yesterday at the school in atlanta or as Abby Huntsman always calls it, atl. Hash tag. Atl. What you saw at that school is one person with a vision executing it and touching all these childrens lives, something Martin Luther king iii was saying to us today. Not all those marches were big, but they started with a few people. Weve been covering this terrible story in nigeria and talking about how do you even try to organize around something that is so intractable, far away and difficult. All of those things do start with someone standing up. We talk about growing hope and what does this mean trying to get people to think what do they want to stand up for. It always starts with someone doing something. Its tricky when the obstacles become more invisible and more systemic and less difficult to face down than the things that we have before. But this is king center, the Ebenezer Baptist church is over there, so we are filled with hope on this day. That does it for us. Remember, theres much more of msnbcs coverage from this growing hope live event in atlanta ahead of you tonight. Reverend al is here at 6 00 p. M. Eastern. Chris hayes is here at 8 00 p. M. Eastern and our friend, alex wagner, starts right after this break. 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