and obama can't bring people. in the month of october they're pulling more than 10,000 people into rallies. the key take away here is the era of the national campaign is over. you have to think of it as a big pinball machine rigged with magnets to key states. these candidates don't focus on other states anymore. we look at a handful to spend a lot of time. >> that really new in the modern era? has that changed over time? >> it has. there was a great piece in national journal today that talked about how california used to be a swing state where places went back and forth. we see these things change. now this era of the end of the national campaign could change in the future, but for now it seems here to stay. >> chris, that national journal report talked about the president's team maybe pulling out of key states like north carolina, virginia, and florida while unwilling to concede that they might be losing in those states. let's play the what-if game, if you would indulge me for a minute. we never had an electoral college tie, 269-269. more and more people like our friend nate silver are talking about the possibility of an electoral tie this year. what do you make of that? is that wishful thinking? do we want some absurd, hilarious scenario? >> as journalists we wanted tochto. a tie would be historic. it would go to the house of representatives, of course, ruled by the republicans at this time. the odds are pretty small. obama's campaign is looking at other states. this is a plan b, because they know they can pick up came of them, they can secure the 270 electoral votes they need. the map here is far more friendly to president obama than it is romney, and that's why romney, you see, playing real hardball in the swing states he needs. even if he winz florida, virginia and ohio, he needs to pick off another one to get there in january. >> on the subject of the 269-269 tie. it would go to the house. it wouldn't be a straight up vote. each delegation had a he vote. the state of california with 50-something members gets one house from the house and texas one vote. the republicans have an advantage there. the vice presidency would be decided by the senate. so you have a scenario there where it's very possible at least in 269-269 romney gets elected by the house, maybe joe biden gets elected by the senate. i guess americans finally -- >> or obama and ryan. it could be anything. >> the only thing stupidier to me was the electoral college was deciding it in even number. that's a whole other issue. chris, i want to ask you about swing states. the one that i think we overlook a little bit and krystal put up the polling numbers, is wisconsin. there's no such emphasis on ohio. i look at wisconsin. if romney can win that and pick off a couple others like new hampshire, iowa and stuff like that. he could get to 270 without ohio. when you look inside ohio, a couple things stand out. the thing i see is the jump in wisconsin from '04 to '08. a lot of bush voters switched over to obama. a very big number. it seems like there might be a bigger pool of potential swing voters. >> i think a couple months ago they felt good they were going to secure wisconsin. it started to change when he chose paul ryan as his running mate. it certainly helps. i'm certain the romney campaign thut th put that into your calculus when they chose paul ryan. >> you talk about the era of the american campaign is over. i think the map has changed very little since 2002. this sounds like a bad dwoemt for the nation. there's an eight to 10-day swing where candidates pay attention to. can you talk about why it is bad for the nation? only a small groups will be paid tae attention to in national elections. >> we saw this in the primaries where the candidates spent so much time in south carolina, new hampshire and iowa. it's ironic. you think it was set up so it would be more equal so more states have more of a representation. here we are just focusing on a couple of states. it's not that voters don't matter in california or new york. we know which way they're going to go. i'm sure there will be conversations as they are after an election to reform the electoral college, but i don't see that happening anytime soon. >> chris, give us color from your time on the ground swing states and as toure is pointing out, there's a handful of states to decide the election. within them there's a handful of swing voters to decide the election. what are you hearing from them in terms of how they will make their decision on election day? >> i was in florida and ohio before the first debate between romney and obama, and i was there after. there was a huge difference in the enthusiasm for mitt romney, and this was specificallyt romney rallies talking to republicans. before the debate, you saw them kind of moderate on romney, but they were really against obama. now he seems more locked in and excite vote. with the gallup poll that came out today and the ppp goal showed it tied, you see the trend goes towards romney. it's funny he never had a surge during the primaries when he couldn't reach above 25%. this is where he's picking. >> chris moody, thanks so much for that analysis. >> thank you. >> steve what do you make of the state of the right noi? >> what chris was getting at there is interesting. it isn't new they're focuses on battleground states and sow are getting a short stick. we've had that for a while. i think the campaign have got it down to a science now. there's no campaign activity here in new york. there's no campaign activity you know where i'm from in massachusetts except some ads in boos ton to get up to new hampshire. there was no poll inning a lot of states. we knew georgia was going republican, but we'll poll it to see what's happening there. everybody decided we're not going to talk about that and have ads there. i always thought growing up if we have an election where one won the popular vote and one the electoral vote, there would be a change to the electoral college. that happened in 2000, and i'm surprised. i wonder coming out of an momentum to get rid of stuff. >> i like what you think and i node if it's really, really dloes and we have a split or less than one-point difference, the legitimacy of the person that wins is compromised. we decent have to pay attention to you. >> we have that with already. a lot of people didn't have any respect for george bush. the rank will lead to na in a razor thing election. >> it is an extreme hypothetical situation, but i think you're right. we goot past that moment in 2 thousand. although they did not like president george w. bush they accepted him with president. what we've seen of the bash lash against obama even though he was elected by a heavy margin, did could be extremely ugly. the other thing back to what you say the national versus the local, i believe at the beginning of the convention was that the local conditions on the ground didn't really matter. it was the national economy. it was the national messaging, and that everything would sort of stwing in the same direction at the same time. this campaign has sort of pushed that logic aside. we see states like ohio where the president is hanging strong, and orr ones like wisconsin where he gained 15 points on him. >> i remember the reaction of democrats and republicans in 2000. the thing that jumped out at me. week brs the 2000 election, the assumption was that al gore had the electoral college advantage. bus would win the popularity joke. the republicans began to make noise, and it involved potentially trying to flip over gore electors and stay the will of the people needs to be up respected ear. that changed that philosophy when the results came in. i wonder what your reaction would be and what you think the reaction of the conservatives in general would be if this time around romney wins the popular vote and barack obama win the electricitial college vote? >> whoa. i think -- >> we're all conservative. >> i think conservatives would be disappointed, but, i mean, it's hard to say what they would do. all sink that i tonight remember those healthy on years quite the way you guys doing. there was a loot of anger after 2000 from democrats. it didn't go away in 2004. code pink and move on came out of 2004 and that election in an effort to remove forcibly george bush. i seent see a whole lot of acceptance and calling for his xwooechl impeachment on a daily basis. ij that is what you see among republicans now. it's what you see a lot of times against an incumbent running for re-election. there's an urgency to sort of rewrite history and get back to the way things quote-unquote should be. >> the one thing about democrats and the legitimacy of bush is they worked with him. >> immigration reform. >> they worked with him in the first term. they tried to get him out of the office but they respected him enough to give him votes in virginia. >> you make a distinction between folks in congress and folks in the popular culture, and that's different. >> up next, ladies the election can come down to us? 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please help. >> in the meantime the obama campaign isn't wasting any team seizing on the binder moment. >> we don't have to collect a bunch of binders to find qualified, talented, driven young women ready to learn and teach in these fields right now. >> that brings us to the spin cycle. some polls i want to wade through very quickly. the first one is the "usa today" gallup poll, which has mitt romney polling within a point of president obama among the likely women voters in swing states. that was taken before the debate this week. we should say that. that's interesting, because obama has been leading among women significantly for months. the next poll is a gallup poll up now today or yesterday that shows that abortion is a key issue among women in swing states, and by a lot. 39% to jobs at 19%. that to me seems like a total outliar. i'm not going to criticize the poll or call it a lie. we have been following polls for an entire year, and none of them have abortion as a top issue for women. it's been the economy, health care and education, and abortion is somewhere near the bottom. it also flies in the face of a gallup poll from last week, which showed that abortion is a threshold issue, meaning an issue that would make-or-break a candidate for someone for only 17% of voters they polled, and with the strongest folk that is feel the strongest on abortion being more pro-life than pro-choice. the final poll was commissioned by the susan b. anthony group earlier this year, i believe. it said that among swing state voters 49% are less likely stroet for president obama because he included taxpayer funding for abortion in obama care. so i guess if abortion really is a top issue for women, and i'm not sure that it is, but if it is the top issue, i'm not so sure this is good for president obama, and i think he knows that, which is why he's looking a little silly, you know, latching onto this binder moment as opposed to talking about real issues that matter to women such as maybe equal pay and lily ledbetter, which i have issues with, but equal pay is a good issue, or, you know, some of the other issues more important to women than binders full of them. >> well, you talk about abortion, and you talk about the women's vote. i think there's a different way of interpreting that gallup number. i think it's true there's more energy on the pro-choice side than the pro-life side, but it tells you something very specific about the republican party. there are very few issues, i think, that the republican party base is unwilling to be flexible on. republicans absolutely hate the concept of obama care. they just nominated it's architect for president. they're willing to help you finesse things if they wanted to naul nature you. abortion is not one of them. the republican party won't nominate anybody pro-choice. i debt you'll see the democratic nominate anybody pro-life. abortion has a singular importance to the republican party that it does not have to the democrat party base. in a poll like that, you find more people say pro-life is a litmus test, because these are republicans generally. if mitt romney is president, i don't know where he stands on abortion. i've never figured it out and may never figure it out. it tells you that the party -- >> he hasn't figured it out either. >> if they have the senate and white house, they expect action and they expect the president will sign pro-life legislation and there's a civil war in the party. >> it didn't happen under bush. there wasn't a civil war in the party. he didn't repeal roe v. wade. >> look at his supreme court nominations. >> nothing happened. >> if something happens, it will come bfrom ruth bader ginsberg leaving the court. >> i think that's a little paranoid. >> no, it's not. >> he said outright that's not going to be the mission of his first term. >> he's required to nominate a pro-life justice. not to mention required to do it by his base. >> whatever the republican congress passed, if it went through the senate, he would certainly sign it into life if it was pro-life legislation. the other thing i would say here about the terms of the sort of abortion debate, i have been struck as a virginian and as someone that ran for office in virginia by how much the landscape of that conversation has changed. i pointed this out a while back. i think it's worth repeating. tim kaine when he ran for governor in 2005, his first line on his stance on abortion was i have a faith-based opposition to abortion. now his first line in his abortion stance affirming his support of roe v. wade and says he will fight to keep it available for women. the terrain has changed because republicans have gone too far to the extreme. things like personhood and trans vaginal probes in virginia. if you're personally opposed to abortion you find repugnant as just a normal citizen. i think the president is on very strong ground, and he's not just talking about binders full of women. he uses that as a bridge to talk about lily ledbetter, which is an issue where mitt romney has not only not known where he stood, but because he couldn't come out and say, yes, i support the fair pay act, people feel like he is extreme and out of touch. >> but abortion polling that shows folks on the left are a little uncomfortable with the celebratory language around abortion as well. there's an extreme on the left and right. >> that's not the debate. he's not talking much aut abortion on the stump. he's talking about women's health and contraception, health care access. >> because it's the mainstay of the dnc. >> i don't want to talk about abortion rights but the economy. that's the question he was asked about katherine fenton. he talks about fair pay and the binder. he said, i got to be 50 years old, and the governor of a state, and i did not know in my own rolodex i did not know women who are qualified to work with me. that sounds to me quite devastating. >> that's not what he said. >> it is exactly. >> what he said is i have to ask somebody else, which was a lie, t i have to ask somebody else to tell me who can work with me in the statehouse. if this person is going to be able to support women and help women when he gets into the white house? he doesn't know. then he has to, again, ask, which is untrue. the other part is katherine fenton is a 24-year-old kindergarten teacher and all she did was ask a question about fair pay. she's being attacked now, and this is the way that people who try to speak out. she's not an activist. she's not doing the sandra fluke thing. she's attacked and this is a way of silencing people to speak out. that to me is rather disgusting. >> okay. up next in the guest spot, renowned presidential historian michael besloh's of president obama's impact on the country. i see a whole lot of no, sstalg coming up. time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. she created shoptiques. is helps local boutiques sell online. she knows content sells so has a 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>> i want to begin, steve, by wondering your other three colleagues talk about dead presidents. the two historians there to change the light bulb, one puts in the new one and the other one is there to reminisce about the old light bulb. i think in a way that's what it is with one-term presidents, because at the time they lose office, for instance, you were mentions george h.w. bush, you're absolutely right. when he lost in 1992, people said he must not be a good president. he couldn't manage to get re-elected. here we are years later looking back, and i would say some of the most important things to know about george h.w. bush are that he not only helped end the cold war but made foreign policy not much an issue in '92 and also that he made a budget deal that provided the foundation for the prosperity of the 1990s. so 20 years later he looks awfully good. so on the extreme assumption that barack obama is a one-term president and we're not -- none of us today is going to say he is or isn't, 20 years from now people look back and oftentimes things that a president did that seemed obsessively important at the time later on seem trivial. it will begin with health care, and the question is did that program work or didn't it? >> you know, it seems like there's another element here, and that is when the supporters or the party of a president decides to make it a priority to enhance that president's legacy. i think of ronald reagan. that's the ultimate recent example. there was a point there in -- >> roosevelt was a democrat. >> i always remember 20 years ago there was a poll that came out that sounded like at that point jimmy carter was more popular and better remembered by americans than ronald reagan. 20 years later you say how could that have happened? can you talk about the reagan experience and what lessons presidents can draw from that in terms of their own reputations in history. >> oftentimes if you have one president that the party looks back to, oftentimes there's not been later presidents or candidates that really captured the party's imagination. if people were in love with george w. bush or some republicans in love with mitt romney, i think you'd hear less about ronald reagan than you do. same thing about fdr. you went to a democratic convention and you mentioned fdr you and you think it's almost recent. >> to this point of how the legacy comes about, how much is actually based on the merit of what the president accomplished in his term and how much is based on luck? i'll give you an example. it looks right now like we're in the beginning of a recovery. housing starts are up and unemployment is down. whoever wins the election is likely to preside over a recovery. >> right. and will get the benefit. so it reasmains for historians say who really was responsible for that recovery, and if this is the case, maybe some of the things that barack obama did that were unpopular actually were necessary to have that recovery come about. >> steve, i think you missed one of the great one-term presidents of all time, brother, jfk without a doubt. put him on that list. >> i mean, he might have got re-elected. we'll never know. >> he's in his own category, i think. >> i separate them a little bit. ones that got rejected by the voters but polk didn't run for re-election. >> the point i wanted to make is that barack obama's national historical significance, beside what we put up on the screen a couple of times in terms of many accomplishments, is far greater than any other president can deal with because of the way that he brings a certain group of people who have long felt left out of the american dream into america. my friend snapped this picture in harlem a couple of weeks ago of a black man with his pants sagging and wearing the presidential seal jacket. can we see the picture real quick. you see there the way that black people felt left out and now feel briefly part of the american family. you see the way that obama becomes a person bringing a he group of people who felt left out into the american dream, into the american family. a symbol of racial justice of america, a place working on racial demons as a symbol of what black people can accomplish if many, many things go right in their life. when you think about that part of it, he's a significant that is extraordinary even if he's the one-term president. i don't know why we're talking about this in october. i reject the premise of this segment. >> michael, how much is pop culture responsible for shaping the legacy of a president the way we remember him? i have to think back to presidents who will embraced by pop culture like jfk and bill clinton and, of course, we remember them sort of gauzily. we look back and don't necessarily remember the more nefarious moments of their administration. and the presidents not embraced by pop culture like nixon and w. don't you think obama beloved by pop culture would be served pretty well? >> that does help a lot. john kennedy, although not a one-term president like we talked about, he lived on because of the accomplishments and the tragedy that took him away. he was a great looking guy with a boat and a family. it's human nature they live on more. >> kennedy would be 95 if he was alive this year. if we saw him age, our image would be a little different. thank you for joining us. coming up why this president can't get more done. all the fighting on capitol hill. up next, the group in siync knos how to fix that. 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want to make a difference. what can we do to stop the gridlock and get lawmakers together to solve problems. with us now is jonathan miller behind the recovering politic and he's the co-founder of no labels to encourage bipartisanship. thanks for being with us. >> great to be with you. >> tell me about no labels. we have record numbers of filibusters and things like raising the debt ceiling are cause for near calamity. what ideas is no labels pushing to help break slew tthrough the logjam? >> we're only a year xaf old, but we have half a million members that are democrats, republicans and independents all that agree we need to put aaside labels on occasion and do what's right for the country. we need to be problem solving instead of hyperpartisan finger points. we have introduced a series of policy proposals to help change the incentive system and reshape how washington works. we have a congress works package and make the presidency work. this january we're going to have a meeting to make america work, which we will introduce a whole series of broader proposals. that's january 14th in new york. the idea here is that all the incide incentives to hide behind partisan bunkers and shout at each other. our goal is to change that process so that they will be forced or encouraged or if they're well-intentioned already, they'll get productive support from their country if they reach compromise, they reach across the aisle and do what's right for their constituents. >> jonathan, i'm going to give you a critique here. i'm happy to get your sforespon to it. i think you're doing a disservice by framing this as encouraging a notion if only these two parties would stop bickering with each other and start to work together and find common ground, i understand that lament, but there's a reason they're so divided. basically to the extent there's a tradition of bipartisanship in congress in this country, it's almost accidental. a conservative liberal wasn't linked up until fairly recently. you had back in the civil rights era you could have segregation to southern democrats, and liberal northern republicans and conservative bob taft republicans in that party. you had a funky coalitions that emerged and didn't have that day-to-day polarization. we now have that day-to-day polarization, and the more valuable message is not to bemoan that they aren't working together. the message is identify which party represents their interests, principles and values and to work within that party to make their values the priority of that party so something can be done. that, to me, is the healthy approach to politics in this era. >> well, i just -- we don't believe that while it might be the healthiest approach we don't believe that's a practical approach right now. we have a pretty evenly divided country, and you know, i disagree that it's been something that the tradition of the country that's changed. we like to look at as recent as the '80s. we had an ideological president in reagan and an ideological liberal speaker in the house, tip o'neal. they would disagree very strongly, but whether it came time to get things done, they did. >> i hate to interrupt you, but jonathan, you had conservative southern democrats. that was the reason tip o'neal to the extent he had to cooperate with reagan on anything is because a big chunk of his party in the house we would now call them republicans. they were mistakenly still democrats back then. >> john, let me piggyback on steve's point and make it a little finer, i think. the problem in washington is asymmetrical. when we say gridlock, the problem is republican obstruction. one party said we put party ahead of country. we stop the president from doing anything he wants to do down to nominating a postmaster general. when we say no labels, we say both parties are equal, and that simply is not true. >> i agree that both parties are not equally at fault during certain occasions. when the party is out of power during the last four years of the obama administration, the party out of power is the obstructionist party. i would agree over the course of time it's gotten worse and worse. there's no doubt during this period we've seen seen such polarization. during this current period the republicans are at the center of that. just during the bush presidency we saw a whole new grassroots left wing movement emerge that was targeted at making extreme comments about president bush and the cheney administration. i fear that if we do have a romney administration that there will be a lot of democrats frustrated with the way republicans have acted during this term and are going to demand that their leaders not compromise with the president romney and come up with solutions to these fiscal cliff problems that are a big issue. instead of increasing this dynamic, ned of it getting worse and worse and worse, we represent a majority of americans who say we have to come together, not on every issue and we can agree to disagree and go to the ballot to deal with high-charging social issues. issues like the budget where there is a center, we need to put some arguments forward and let folks decides. if you agree, come to nolabels.org and sign onto our movement and be part of the solution. >> jonathan, thanks smooch. if i could throw one idea out for you, ways to incentivize getting the center to vote, not just the base, compulsory voting is what i care about. thanks for being with us, jonathan. >> thanks for having me. up next, candidates open to "reader's digest" magazine and mitt romney is cracking jokes. it's pretty funny. favorite word on the other hand, indom nabl. really? chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see 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[ male announcer ] ...just 'cause. download zeebox free, and have the night of your life with your tv. ipad, the macs, iphones, they are all manufactured in china, one of the major reasons is labor is so much cheaper here. how do you convince a great american company to bring that manufacturing back here? >> candy, there's some jobs that are not going to come back because they're low wage, low skill jobs. >> is the president right? will we truly never make iphones, ifd paipads, and mac bn the u.s.? apple is a company founded by an iconic american. apple is ours, but that pride comes with an asterisk. they're designed here but made in china and, worse, apple's largest china supplier has been beset by scandal over poor working conditions, a ration of suicides, and even worker riots. we comfort ourselves with the fact that the president, he's probably right. that's just the way of the global economy? are we willing to sleep on a cot next to an assembly line and get paid $18 is day in no. i guess we'll come up with the ideas and they will make the goods. that's partly true and partly not. we have people sleeping on cots in their relative's basements, who walk through the ruins of once proud manufacturing towns and shake their head in loss. we used to make the goods that drove the world. now shenzhen is dotted with new factories and we're the number one exporter of garbage. we ship them our garbage to be recycled and they shift us iphones. i visited a company that decided to keep all their manufacturing in the ohio river valley where it's been since the company's founding. it's an inspearing story but i realize it's not one that's likely to create change on a large scale. for most companies, the bottom line is the bottom line. more encouraging though were the messages i received after the segment aired. a lot of people reached out to say they would go out of their way to buy american-mode homer lockland products and more importantly, they were willing to pay a premium to buy american. now, that is the key. economists have estimated that it would add between $65 and $100 to the cost of the iphone to make it in america . would you be willing to pay? there are plenty of us who can afford it and i believe would. we can't save every low-wage american manufacturing job. that's not realistic and the president is right that some are gone forever, but he was also right when he made economic patriotism is central theme of his campaign. let's back him up and buy american when we can even if it costs a bit more knowing there could be whole communities redeemed by our collective action. mortgages paid, downtowns rescued, schools supported, and pride restored in u.s. manufacturing with every purchase, and to tim cook, have a little faith. take a risk and give us a chance to prove that made in america can be profitable. folks, you don't just get to listen to me today. you have to do something. i went to change.org earlier and set up a simple petition. if you agree sign your name and let apple know that if they offer an american-made iphone, you'll be there to back them up. all right. that does it for "the cycle." martin, it is all yours. >> krystal, i love that line, pride restored. thank you so much. good afternoon. it's thursday, october the 18th, and golly gosh, these candidates are everywhere, but, gee, where is mitt? nowhere to be seen. ♪ i've been everywhere man ♪ i've been everywhere man >> we'll win this election. >> i am qualified because i was born in the usa, and unlike one of the candidates for president, i keep all my money here. >> i am not too proud to beg. i want you to vote. >> i really feel good on this couch. >> we don't have to order up some binders to find qualified, talented, driven, young women. >> i'm not running for office and i don't have to say what i feel, but i am pro-life. >> how about the pr